Hi,
I would like to go to some secluded spot and establish a town for TG people and those who understand us. I was thinking if I had money, I would a huge chunk of land and establish a town there. People could come from all around and be accepted. Maybe once the town grows, we could try to establish a state or country.
We could live our way. Citizens could come from around the world to live there and then take off if they find they are ready to go back to the old world because of jobs or hobbies or school or whatever.
The children straight and TG would all be taught about possibilities, alternatives, and tolerance.
People could dress or present as they damn well please.
Anybody got any money?
A whole trans state, province, country, continent or perhaps even planet would be cool... any and all genders welcome ;D
Zythyra
Maybe we can overthrow the community that's on Nantucket Island an settle there. then we can be the TGs from Nantucket. Hee hee
Purchasing an island would be pretty cool. Some people like mountains, though. I wonder if we could just squat (no double entendre intended) in the Rocky Mountains?
QuotePurchasing an island would be pretty cool. Some people like mountains, though.
Hawaii, an island with mountains. A reasonable compromise ;D
Zythyra
Quote from: y2gender on August 11, 2007, 09:46:36 PM
QuotePurchasing an island would be pretty cool. Some people like mountains, though.
Hawaii, an island with mountains. A reasonable compromise ;D
Zythyra
That is the most excellent choice that could possibly be made.
QuoteThat is the most excellent choice that could possibly be made.
Grass skirts are plentiful and great music too! There is already acceptance of gender variant persons there too, I can't remember what the traditional tgs were called, perhaps Mahu? The weather would certainly be an improvement for those of us living in the northeast. I'm packing my suitcase now ;D ;D
Zythyra
Forget packing. I'm already walking
I can understand the feeling, Rebis. But, is there not enough ghettoizing of people already over differences and similarities? Is another an answer, and if so, to what?
I understand there are many different types/genders of people at this site. The mingling seems good for understanding. IMO, same is true in the rest of that world we live in.
A few less Latino, Black, Venetian, Jewish, Muslim quarters in our world might not be a bad idea, eh. I think one of our major problems is the way we exclude/seclude what we have no wish to see: things/people that give us pause to examine ourselves, and our simple answers.
If anything, id avoid this place entirely. It fosters bubble world, its simply a real life concept of the 'internet chatroom ->-bleeped-<-s' people who dwell online all thier wakeing hours, and never visit the real world.
By all means however, go ahead :)
R :police:
QuoteIf anything, id avoid this place entirely. It fosters bubble world, its simply a real life concept of the 'internet chatroom ->-bleeped-<-s' people who dwell online all thier wakeing hours, and never visit the real world.
Speaking of people dwelling online 24/7, I do see YOU around here quite a lot >:D
I live in the real world of rural America, I only know of 2 or 3 other trans people within a 50 mile radius, and I rarely ever see or talk to them. I enjoy my neighbors and friends in the real world, however it's nice to let down my guard occasionally, and spend a little (or a lot) time online with people who share similar feelings.
Zythyra
At least my little 1 acre that we are paying to own, certainly is gender identity and expression open. 1 acre down billions more to go.
*walks in*...
*blinks*...
*slowly walks out*...
I'll come visit your colony, Reebs, provided it's an arctic climate. I was never meant to suffer summers like this. My Siberian ancestors are rolling over in their graves.
All people would be welcome. Even non-trans people. The point is to create an
inclusive community, not an exclusive one. The idea is to allow people to
openly explore their gender journeys. It would not hurt to have open minded straights around.
It wouldn't be the last stop for people either. People could come and explore their selves and then go back into the world taking what they've learned along with them.
If we're on a tropical island, we can build a cold zone for the Siberians. ;D Actually, there are times when I enjoy the naked deadness of a brutal winter. It's a reminder of the cycles of life.
Posted on: August 12, 2007, 01:05:00 PM
Quote from: Rachael on August 12, 2007, 01:50:42 AM
If anything, id avoid this place entirely. It fosters bubble world, its simply a real life concept of the 'internet chatroom ->-bleeped-<-s' people who dwell online all thier wakeing hours, and never visit the real world.
By all means however, go ahead :)
R :police:
You can keep the real world for yourself. The whole point of TG world is to give people the opportunity to be themselves. Maybe we won't have to be so self conscious if we're in a place where we are the norm. Maybe we'll then be freed up to pursue our true nontrans interests.
QuoteIf we're on a tropical island, we can build a cold zone for the Siberians. Grin Actually, there are times when I enjoy the naked deadness of a brutal winter. It's a reminder of the cycles of life.
It isn't the cold and dark of winter that bothers me, it's how long winter lasts in New England that sometimes gets to me. Hey, if we have a Siberian zone, I'll visit occasionally, and bring along some of my homemade beet borscht and latkes (good foods to eat to help stay warm in those temperatures).
Zythyra
first i would like to say glad 2 meet u (again) bros and sis!! its my first post so i need to send u a kiss!!! :D
About u r idea (i dream of that since i was young) there are about 1000 small greek islands unhabited waiting for a cool move like that, but who has the money and the guts!! maybe an organisation must talk 2 some people.... like Elton John for example!!! and who knows maybe our dreamland come true!!!
P.S. Ill be around more often this time
Evelyn from sunny Athens - Greece
Quote from: evelynaGR on August 12, 2007, 02:11:39 PM
first i would like to say glad 2 meet u (again) bros and sis!! its my first post so i need to send u a kiss!!! :D
About u r idea (i dream of that since i was young) there are about 1000 small greek islands unhabited waiting for a cool move like that, but who has the money and the guts!! maybe some organisation must talk 2 soma people like Elton John for example!!! and who knows maybe our dreamland come true!!!
P.S. Ill be around more often this time
Evelyn from sunny Athens - Greece
I like your style, Kid.
ty Rebis....wait 2 know me better!!!u dont c anything yet!!!
by the way not so....kid anymore!!! :eusa_dance:
y2gender:yes, im online in the evenings often, its also the summer holidays from uni, so im all alone at uni with nobody to socialise with atm :P
Ashley michelle:i dont want to change the world, this one suits me fine!
R :police:
I've heard about this dream before....have even had a similar dream. In fact, right here in front of me, thumbtacked to the cork board is an ad I have enlarged that reads...."Private Island-Fox Island, NY 263+ acres. 5,000 s.f home with 8 bedrooms 5 bath lodge plus 1/2 acre mainland lot with boat dock and a 3,000 foot grass landing strip, etc., etc. Visit schraderauction.com
We are already working on the money part, would love partners. Anyone game? Every dream comes with wings. Who's ready to soar?
P.S. That "open" and "inclusive" attitude is what I thought America was all about?
QuoteIn fact, right here in front of me, thumbtacked to the cork board is an ad I have enlarged that reads...."Private Island-Fox Island, NY 263+ acres. 5,000 s.f home with 8 bedrooms 5 bath lodge plus 1/2 acre mainland lot with boat dock and a 3,000 foot grass landing strip, etc., etc. Visit schraderauction.com
LOL, even without visiting the auction site, I have a feeling this is WAAAY out of my financial bracket. I might be able to afford to go in with the folks who wanted property in Siberia though ;D
Z
Hahaha...
"Private Island-Fox Island, NY 263+ acres. 5,000 s.f home with 8 bedrooms 5 bath lodge plus 1/2 acre mainland lot with boat dock and a 3,000 foot grass landing strip, etc., etc."
Sounds like a Second Life area... Do animated intimacy balls come included?
Really, you can have that TG island in virtual worlds and you don't have to worry about passing. Everyone is a hottie!
Quote from: Christopher on August 13, 2007, 04:48:25 PM
I've heard about this dream before....have even had a similar dream. In fact, right here in front of me, thumbtacked to the cork board is an ad I have enlarged that reads...."Private Island-Fox Island, NY 263+ acres. 5,000 s.f home with 8 bedrooms 5 bath lodge plus 1/2 acre mainland lot with boat dock and a 3,000 foot grass landing strip, etc., etc. Visit schraderauction.com
We are already working on the money part, would love partners. Anyone game? Every dream comes with wings. Who's ready to soar?
P.S. That "open" and "inclusive" attitude is what I thought America was all about?
If America was about being open and inclusive, we wouldn't have this website to escape to.
On TG Island, everyone passes.
And who would govern this colony? I mean, we can't even get along in a forum. Can you imagine what happens when a crossdresser moves in next to a 100% passing elitist? And what about androgens? Ignored by the elitists, ignored by the crossdressers. Could a self proclaimed sexual fethishist crossdresser really get elected mayor here?
No, what would happen is there would be segregation. All the crossdressers would live together in the same place. All the androgens would live together, All the primary transsexuals would live together, all the secondary transsexuals would live together. This TG utopia would have all the same problems that society has.
I would bet my bottom dollar that if we had elections here at Susan's, that a "true transsexual" would be elected leader and probably a pretty one. The hierarchy would show it's ugly self. No, segregating ourselves from society is not going to change anything. If we could get to the point where we all accepted ourselves and each other, the problem would already be solved and there would be no need for a TG colony.
Love always,
Elizabeth
Yay!!!
Another pessimist... er.. realist like myself.
Just like in the planet of the apes, there will be fragmentation and then division. I mean, who else is going to make our Nikes and Hummers. The lower class! Bwwhahahahaha...
So while the andros and crossers and barely passable trans fight amongst each other to gain praise from the truers, the truers will be revered for their beauty.
This will be documented in the movie: "Transtopia: The Gorgeous Beginnings"
Then the crossers and andros, upset at the imbalance will rise in revolt.. yielding....
"The Andro-Crossers: The Ultimate Betrayl"
Then the beautiful trans, afraid for their safety, flee the island to merge with regular society, as shown in the third installment:
"Transunion... or, The Plain Remain"
I have no idea where this spiel came from...
it would be nice to have our own community/colony away from the outside world.
who gets to be the president? (hehehehe)
sadly, i find the down side is that there will always be discrimnation even in the smallest group of people.
but maybe it can be changed. there is still hope!
I´d only go if the food were good, cheap and plentiful - and the fruitjuice, milkshake and beer more so.
Quote from: Elizabeth on August 13, 2007, 09:59:39 PM
And who would govern this colony? I mean, we can't even get along in a forum. Can you imagine what happens when a crossdresser moves in next to a 100% passing elitist? And what about androgens? Ignored by the elitists, ignored by the crossdressers. Could a self proclaimed sexual fethishist crossdresser really get elected mayor here?
No, what would happen is there would be segregation. All the crossdressers would live together in the same place. All the androgens would live together, All the primary transsexuals would live together, all the secondary transsexuals would live together. This TG utopia would have all the same problems that society has.
I would bet my bottom dollar that if we had elections here at Susan's, that a "true transsexual" would be elected leader and probably a pretty one. The hierarchy would show it's ugly self. No, segregating ourselves from society is not going to change anything. If we could get to the point where we all accepted ourselves and each other, the problem would already be solved and there would be no need for a TG colony.
Love always,
Elizabeth
:'( :'( :'( Thanks for crushing all my dreams, Elizabeth. You're Mean! :'( [sound of tiny feet running up to a bedroom. sound of a door slamming] :'( :'( :'(
QuoteI dunno, Elizabeth. I'd be willing to vote for either Zythera or Rebis. They seem kewl, kind and intelligent. They'd probably make good leaders.
Haha, I wouldn't run for that office, if elected, I will not serve ;D Well, hmmmm, what are the fringe benefits? Is there chocolate involved???? A beautiful medieval castle perhaps??? Damsels in distress? ;D >:D
Z
I cannot lead. I'm actually a very good doer of other people's plans as long as I agree with the plan.
I think Elizabeth could do it. She has an eye for the big picture and she seems decisive. My role would be visiting people and making sure they feel happy and good.
You know, I've come to realize that whenever I propose some utopia type ideal, a lot of people come right out and tell me it's not possible. Well, not with that attitude it isn't.
Can't we all just pretend to get along? :)
I just realized that Susan should be Princess. She makes it work here, so why not in the colony too?
Quote from: Nichole W. on August 14, 2007, 12:06:02 PM
Perhaps we can move Mad Ludwig's Neuschwanstein there? It isn't medieval, but....http://www.whatiwonder.com/vacation/germany/060706/images/p1010152.jpg (http://www.whatiwonder.com/vacation/germany/060706/images/p1010152.jpg)
And yes, no damsel, but I can be distressed! :laugh: :laugh:
Nichole
Wow, if we lived in that joint, it would take us weeks just to say "goodnight" to everyone.
Of course, the TV would be in
my room.
It just occurred to me that the title for our leader would have to be 'babysitter'.
QuotePerhaps we can move Mad Ludwig's Neuschwanstein there? It isn't medieval, but....http://www.whatiwonder.com/vacation/germany/060706/images/p1010152.jpg
Hmmm, pretty nice place, I want one of the turrets for my room ;D
I could be the damsel in distress, and let down my hair for the beautiful androgynous fairy prince/cess, or frog, or whatever....
Z
I'll be the troll living in the dungeon. We still have an opening for jester and monster in the moat :)
I'm wondering if anyone else does the same type of thing? What's up with nudest colonies? Do ppl live there? Is it a weekend thing? How do they do it? The only other things I can think of is a commune and a cult.
I think you can start small. Maybe a house with a few rooms & a haven for down & out TS's. Charge rent to cover mortgage. Later incorporate & move to something larger. Very doable. Probably be able to make money but I'd go non-profit.
Yea. I like it. Count me in. I don't have any money but I'm full of ideas :P
Quote from: TreeFlower on August 14, 2007, 12:53:21 PM
I'll be the troll living in the dungeon. We still have an opening for jester and monster in the moat :)
I'm wondering if anyone else does the same type of thing? What's up with nudest colonies? Do ppl live there? Is it a weekend thing? How do they do it? The only other things I can think of is a commune and a cult.
I think you can start small. Maybe a house with a few rooms & a haven for down & out TS's. Charge rent to cover mortgage. Later incorporate & move to something larger. Very doable. Probably be able to make money but I'd go non-profit.
Yea. I like it. Count me in. I don't have any money but I'm full of ideas :P
I was thinking of that once too. Hmmmmmm.
So far as I know, nudist colonies are not really colonies, but clubs. No doubt somebody lives there and probably recieves room, board and a stipend for maintaining the house and grounds, but most of the members live somewhere else and pay a membership fee, and that pays the mortgage, property tax, utilities and upkeep of the place, and gives said members right to use the place whenever they please or whenever the rules say it's okay. Neighborhood 'beach clubs' make good examples 'cause they tend to be in tiny forms and are not for-profit country-clubs, which are businesses and don't give members a share in ownership. The ones I'm familiar with, a dozen or so residential properties include not only their own lots, but a share in a lot that has access to the water, giving everybody beach-front property rights while sparing them the expense of actually having their house on a lot by the water.
For the kind of thing we're talking about, a better comparison might be monestaries and the retreat-center type places owned by religious groups. Some people live and work there and are supported by charitable donations and by running the place as a retreat-center. People pay to come stay there for vacations or to hold conventions there, residents look after these visitors. Often these places also produce some sort of high-end agricultural product. Specialty beers, mead, honey, the plum-jam made by the Buddhists at Plum Village, New Skete's trained German Shepherd Dogs, that sort of thing.
'Real' communes tend to do the agricultural/craft thing but not host the visitors.
That sort of thing isn't really out of reach, depending on where you located it and how many people wanted to join or support it. Land that's far away from places of employment tends to be cheap. It'd be pretty concievable to get a big peice of land and have one house/building for the kitchen and common areas, and put up a bunch of little one-room cabins ("Unabomber" cabin-kits are cheap) for folks to sleep in. Heck, one might get lucky and find an old church-camp with all that stuff already in place.
Probably there are enough well-off trans-folks around who'd want to spend vacation time in a totally trans-friendly environment that it might just support itself as a trans-retreat center. Those folks might also be very keen to support it with donations if the place took in down-and-out transfolks and helped them. Certain liberal organizations that try to prevent homelessness and prostitution might also be willing to donate if the down-and-out were welcomed, since homelessness and prostitution are frequent landing places for transpeople who have nowhere to go and no job prospects. It could also host 'sensitivity training' type retreats for businesses and could do a great job at that 'cause the people being trained in sensitivity would be exposed to many different transpeople all the time they were there, instead of one or two inaccessable lecturers.
I don't imagine a lot of transpeople want to become farmers, but I've noticed that specialty wools can be a profitable venture, and alpacas and sheep can be raised on lands that aren't much good for anything else. That might balance out for the kind of people who'd be keen to live on such a place. Shearing in the spring, retreat-hosting all summer and autumn, spend the winter washing, carding, spinning and packing wool for sale.
That was nicely done, Doc.
Another activity for colony support could be tech work. Put a few satellite dishes up and design websites or take database keeping jobs and stuff like that.
I wish I had some bread.
I can make the commercials and 'come visit us' videos.
And do documentaries on the place. And I can train horses that have been broken to ride to be resold for physiotherapy purposes?
Quote from: Tay on August 14, 2007, 02:10:10 PM
I can make the commercials and 'come visit us' videos.
And do documentaries on the place. And I can train horses that have been broken to ride to be resold for physiotherapy purposes?
Yes.
If I was single, I'd sell my house to get started on this. Life with a purpose that doesn't make me want to vomit. I love you people. :)
Yeah, any kind of tele-commute work would do. One would definately want to set it up so that anybody who arrived who already had such a job could do it. Though hey, you could set up a business of that sort, calling centers. Except that such jobs sure do suck. Hehe! We could all be 'phone sex workers. I am incompetant for that, though. I am totally unsexy. And I was once briefly employed as a telephone psychic, and I was really spectacularly bad at it.
Alas, Tay, I dunno that you can make money training therapy horses special. Most of 'em around here are just school-horses, steady and gentle but not especially different from any other good steady horse. But heck, if you've got a big peice of land and a nice barn and are just a little sociable, horses (often quite good ones) will be offered you for a pittance, or nothing. Somebody tried to give me four Arabians a couple of years ago, all of them ridable, gentle, and under the age of eight. Like a hundred thousand dollars worth of horses, on the grounds that the owner has cancer and can't care for them or ride any more, and I happen to live on a big peice (which, alas, I rent, or I'd be making our commune right now) and struck her as somebody who'd be nice to those horses and not sell them. Though maybe this is just me, and the fact that I work for a vet. Want a dog? Cat? How about a parrot? People keep trying to give me parrots, parrots I couldn't buy for less than two grand.
Certainly, while we're dreamin', a retreat-center ought to have a riding stable with gentle horses. It'd be an attraction to visitors. And hey, I wanna breed mules. Gaited mules out of Tennesse Walker and Paso Fino mares, there's no better ride.
Yes. I want a parrot. O.O
As far as therapy horses go, I'd buy super low and sell for a small profit. See, the trouble with most therapy horses is that they are quite old to reach that level of steady. Training that steadiness into them for a purpose is possible, I've done it, but generally the therapy groups end up with old horses that have to be retired shortly after their arrival, due to price constraints and so on. Plus, people who want their young children to ride would be willing to pay for this type of horse, as well.
Heck, I'd be willing to train instructors, too. *shrug* As for mules, why not?
Heck, why not breed various specialty animals? They can sell good, some of them.
I telework now. I can sell my house and move right in. I have two friendly dogs if that's ok :) I'm soooo ready for a change of career. I've conquered programming and Unix system administration. I'd <3 to raise alpacas.
There is a resort near my house called Rainbow Mountain, http://www.rainbowmountain.com/ I've only been there once on TG/CG weekend. No one lives there but its a model for a GLBT resort. The Poconos in Pennsylvania is a good place for a resort because people from NY & Philly like to go there to get away. The thing about this place is that there isn't much to do there. Most of the to do things are attractions in the area. Also, the place doesn't start hopping until 11:00 PM.
I also recall a scout camp for sale in the area. But that was a few years ago.
Yeah, 'specialty' animals do seem to work out okay for some people. Gaited mules are really expensive, more so than gaited horses, and gaited horses are really expensive. The alpaca freaks seem to be doing okay with them, there are several mini-ranches for that around here and they stay in the black, though it seems to me that the whole spinning and weaving and knitting trend has ended. Or at least, I don't see stores that stock nothing but materials and equipment for that around any more. I knew some folks who made a bundle when they got out of the sheep business, because they'd bred a large flock of natural redhead sheep on a whim (at the time, nobody raising sheep for wool wanted black or red sheep, 'cause big markets want white, dyable wool, so the red sheep they founded their redhead flock on were cheap) and then found that there were all these hobbiests and craftspeople willing to pay through the nose for red wool that was grown red.
I think the way to make a retreat/resort/dude farm work is to have all the 'attractions' on-site. Good kitchen, riding stable, swimming pool, fishin' hole, dances and movies etc, but have the whole place out where land is cheap and taxes on it low, out in the middle of nowhere, and expect most visitors to have longer stays and travel to get there. But maybe I just wanna be out in the middle of nowhere.
Really, the trouble with this idea is the same as any commune-scheme. Trans people aren't any less annoying than other people*. I'm sure we could find a sizable group who'd be keen, and together be wealthy enough to start the place, but every one of those people would have to overcome the obstacle of, well, having to live together as a community and trusting one another not to screw it up. What do you do when one member can't get along with another? When one falls in love and wants to go live in LA with a hot entertainment lawyer? If they've all put in a substantial sum of money and effort into the place and want to leave it, they need to get something back, but it's not like they've bought a house they can just sell. So people hesitate. And the bigger the group, the scarier such prospects seem.
*Actually, maybe transpeople are more annoying. Or maybe it's just support groups that are annoying. Sometimes I'd like to make a mockumentary about transgender support groups. It'd have Passing Elitist Girl in it, telling other transwomen they're not feminine enough and passing it off as constructive criticism. And the women who sit around talking about other people's inappropriate hormone doses and how they're pharmacuitically made to be over-sensitive. And the misogynist transman where you wonder why the hell he's there since most of the members are women and he's got nothing good to say about women at all. And the androgyne who's always lecturing others about how hideously they're limiting themselves by identifying within the binary, screaming at the transsexuals who say androgynes and genderqueers aren't really trans at all and make the community look like freaks...
I had something funny to say but it might piss of genderqueers, :-\ so I'll just say that mockumentary sounds good.
Oh, do tell. In a PM, perhaps. :)
Probably it'd upset too many forum-members, but it'd be fun to start a new thread about said imaginary mockumentary. We could sit around stereotyping other transpeople to invent its array of irritating characters, and make up dialogue of the horrible comic ways they interact with one another.
Quote from: Doc on August 14, 2007, 06:12:07 PM
Really, the trouble with this idea is the same as any commune-scheme. Trans people aren't any less annoying than other people*. I'm sure we could find a sizable group who'd be keen, and together be wealthy enough to start the place, but every one of those people would have to overcome the obstacle of, well, having to live together as a community and trusting one another not to screw it up. What do you do when one member can't get along with another? When one falls in love and wants to go live in LA with a hot entertainment lawyer? If they've all put in a substantial sum of money and effort into the place and want to leave it, they need to get something back, but it's not like they've bought a house they can just sell. So people hesitate. And the bigger the group, the scarier such prospects seem.
What if people could leave on the condition that they find someone else who wants in to cover their investment? I guess if you're a good salesperson then on your way out, you may even make a profit. Hideous thought, isn't it?
Form a corporation and sell shares in it. Then if someone wants out, they have to sell their share.
Dennis
I guess it'd pretty much have to be a corporation, for a dozen or some people to all own equal shares in a ranch/resort/retreat-center/whatever you wanna call it.
Trouble with that is, it covers the departing original investor's interest, but it doesn't cover the interests of the remaining ones. In that aspect it's maybe less like a company and more like. Eh, the way I used to rent this house with five bedrooms, or seven if you counted rooms you had to walk through to get to one or two rooms beyond. Sharing a house is probably harder than sharing a compound of cabins with one main house, but anyway. The original renters agreed to find replacements for themselves when they chose to leave. Those four people all loved each other and wanted to live together. We all bought groceries as a group and cooked for each other and it was super-cheap and worked out great, barring a few issues like, 'Dammit, I am tired of hearing that phrase you keep repeating, Doc,' and 'Look, all of us want you to move your teevee out of the living room and into your private room, 'cause the babble-box is dominating our conversation,' and 'Hey, do your share of the dishes instead of relying on other people to get sick of the mess sooner than you do,' and 'Okay, look, do you have to be naked all the time?' and 'Let's get a cat.' Not big problems. But over the two years or so I lived there, over sixteen different people lived in that house and it went from a house that was inhabited by university students and would-be students who were working to save up for that kinda thing to a house inhabited by speed-freaks. This is 'cause people who were leaving had no strong interest in finding a really good replacement for themselves, and those remaining could not stop leavers from going on the grounds that the new potential roomie they offered wasn't good enough, nor did they want to see their share of the rent go up, as it might do dramatically when people left as couples.
I'm sure with a major investment like a commune, this turn-over would happen over ten or fifteen years rather than one or two, but still, scary. Since eventually I ended up being the only person in that house whose name was on the lease, I should have said, "Okay, this is the house /I/ rent, you all just sublet from me, and /I/ get to choose the roommates, and right now I am choosing to kick out /you/ and /you/, and by proxy all your drug-fiend friends," or something of that ilk. As it was, I just left. With a shared ownership and a several thousand dollars invested rather than a shared rental, kicking them out or just leaving 'cause I didn't want to deal with it wouldn't be possible, though. Dunno, Dennis, you're the lawyer. Could it be set up in such a way that the investors are somehow protected from having to live with a new buyer that they don't want to live with?
Depends on jurisdiction, but you could make share transfer only possibly on the approval of a majority vote of the remainder of shareholders. It would decrease the value of the shares, but if it's not an investment, who cares. And it doesn't make the original investor any more protected than the others. Everyone buys a share, and everyone is an equal shareholder with the same rights and responsibilities.
The problem is the one that exists with any kind of communal ownership. Disagreements. The only way around it is to have one person own the lot, set the rules, and everyone else has to follow them. Benevolent dictatorship. Otherwise, you have to have a damn good dispute resolution mechanism in place.
Condominium structure is similar, and disagreements are frequent and difficult to get around when you're all equal.
Dennis
I don't like the idea of a TG colony. When I was little, I wished that I could be the only one left in the world so that I could live and dress as I wanted. As I've grown and lived, I've seen the immense folly in that concept... not just being alone, but living solely with like minded people.
I want to live in the midst of culture. I like the diversity, strangeness, and newness. I hope I never tire of being surprised by someone else.
There are many negatives in this world. We just need to get out the vice grips and duct tape. You can fix anything with vice grips and duct tape ya know? Oh... and some sugar and spice.
Cindi
Quote from: Cindi Jones on August 16, 2007, 02:23:44 AM
I don't like the idea of a TG colony. When I was little, I wished that I could be the only one left in the world so that I could live and dress as I wanted. As I've grown and lived, I've seen the immense folly in that concept... not just being alone, but living solely with like minded people.
I want to live in the midst of culture. I like the diversity, strangeness, and newness. I hope I never tire of being surprised by someone else.
There are many negatives in this world. We just need to get out the vice grips and duct tape. You can fix anything with vice grips and duct tape ya know? Oh... and some sugar and spice.
Cindi
Hi Cindi,
In TG world, straights are welcome. The idea is to establish a mixed environment, but with TG considerations & influence built into the culture. I know many of us have SO's and children, plus parents, cousins, and friends.
Rebis,
I do understand. But you know, I think that society has come a long way in the past twenty years. Transsexualism is almost mainstream stuff.
Just look at the primary candidates for the president... we've got a woman, a Mormon, and a black. Now who would have considered that just 10 years ago?
I think that the society we want it just a couple generations away ... if we can just keep from blowing ourselves out of existence.... we can do it.
Cindi
We need it NOW & HERE not in the future!!!
It's a matter of a decision from people that have the power (and money)
For example MONACO, it was a decision of a very rich Greek man,
Aristotelis Onasis got that decision and established a country for tax reasons.
Quote from: Rebis on August 14, 2007, 02:09:20 PM
Another activity for colony support could be tech work. Put a few satellite dishes up and design websites or take database keeping jobs and stuff like that.
Hey Rebis, that was actually tried recently. It was called Heaven's Gate.
Nudist and clothing optional resorts generally do not host people that want to be nude 24/7/365. The visitors return after a while and lead a "normal" life (whatever that is). (Don't ask me how I know about them >:D)
As fun as this fantasy sounds, I would rather opt for total acceptance in the real world. I do realize that may never happen, though.
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Quote from: Ashley Michelle on August 18, 2007, 04:52:35 PM
Quote from: evelynaGR on August 18, 2007, 03:51:03 PM
We need it NOW & HERE not in the future!!!
It's a matter of a decision from people that have the power (and money)
For example MONACO, it was a decision of a very rich Greek man,
Aristotelis Onasis got that decision and established a country for tax reasons.
oooh, can i be a princess of transland? or maybe a plenipotentiary? may i have a regency?
sorry dear im already the FIRST LADY!!! :-)
I think that it is far more important for each of us to make our own world an live it accordingly. From our example others would learn and better understand us which would go a longer way in tearing down barriers, and further reducing the discrimination, recrimination, and the fears that folks hold against us.
Steph
Take it easy, girls. In Transland, all ladies will be princesses and have pedestals. All men will be princes and have motorcycles, or whatever it is men like. A princess on each arm?
what do we do Rebis?
Left alone again. :embarrassed:
I don't know. I'm buffaloed (stumped).
Maybe the men on motorbikes, the women on thrones and the androgynes alone and cold up mountains but enjoying the view.
Quoteoooh, can i be a princess of transland? or maybe a plenipotentiary? may i have a regency?
sorry dear im already the FIRST LADY!!! :-)
Just remember everyone, there's only one keening quing and that position IS taken ;D
I know, I know... it's not like everyone's fighting to get this job. ::)
Z
we can have thrones & motorbikes!!!
Or, we can merge thrones and motorbikes.
throne-abikes
(illustration coming up)
QuoteOr, we can merge thrones and motorbikes.
mones and throtorbikes :laugh:
Z
Quote from: y2gender on August 18, 2007, 07:04:03 PM
QuoteOr, we can merge thrones and motorbikes.
mones and throtorbikes :laugh:
Z
Somehow, that sounds sexy. [imagine an emoticon with eyebrows moving up and down]
Quote from: Rebis on August 18, 2007, 07:05:38 PM
[imagine an emoticon with eyebrows moving up and down]
What? Like this maybe? (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ephatch.com%2Fforum%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fnaughty.gif&hash=a740dc43405f989b55f8a5378803fca4bc0e209d)
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Quote from: Kristi on August 18, 2007, 09:04:13 PM
Quote from: Rebis on August 18, 2007, 07:05:38 PM
[imagine an emoticon with eyebrows moving up and down]
What? Like this maybe? (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ephatch.com%2Fforum%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fnaughty.gif&hash=a740dc43405f989b55f8a5378803fca4bc0e209d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fganjataz.com%2F01smileys%2Fimages%2Fsmileys%2FloopyBlonde-blinking.gif&hash=4545ddf8251cf9c32ae6074d56e48bc34a755857)Kristi
Hey. I haven't seen that guy around. i need to investigate this. :icon_booty-nerd:
Quote from: Rebis on August 18, 2007, 09:52:20 PM
Hey. I haven't seen that guy around. i need to investigate this. :icon_booty-nerd:
That's because I haven't let him out to play here before.
Here is his cousin:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mfbb.net%2Freaper%2Fimages%2Fsmiles%2Ftlab06.gif&hash=26cadcc13d5789eb7ef017f7bc5805a7aee0e978)
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Quote from: Kristi on August 18, 2007, 10:40:58 PM
Quote from: Rebis on August 18, 2007, 09:52:20 PM
Hey. I haven't seen that guy around. i need to investigate this. :icon_booty-nerd:
That's because I haven't let him out to play here before.
Here is his cousin:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mfbb.net%2Freaper%2Fimages%2Fsmiles%2Ftlab06.gif&hash=26cadcc13d5789eb7ef017f7bc5805a7aee0e978)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fganjataz.com%2F01smileys%2Fimages%2Fsmileys%2FloopyBlonde-blinking.gif&hash=4545ddf8251cf9c32ae6074d56e48bc34a755857)Kristi
We'll need those guys in TG world. There will be much eyebrow wagging events happening there. If I have my way. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mfbb.net%2Freaper%2Fimages%2Fsmiles%2Ftlab06.gif&hash=26cadcc13d5789eb7ef017f7bc5805a7aee0e978)
Hmmm Interesting propersition... Would seem interesting a Whole town region full of TS / TGs & Likeminded Partners....
But I'd have to agree with most who responded, its nothing more than ghettoizing ourselves.... there's enough Ghettoes in the UK & Europe, we don't need any more.
Also we have the problem of sustaining the population, with TG's unable to bear kinds (yet), we can't rely ony on immigration, Ahh how about cloning TG's (great) :D :police:
Take Care
Thanks for the tip about the colony.
I'm not worried about being ghettoized. Anyway, everyone seems to forget that TG world includes non-TG's too. The difference is that TG's are accepted and have a voice in the running of the joint.
It really could work as a resort. I am in the travel and a lot of the developers, particularly in Latin America, are looking for any marketing angle they can. I am sure you could get a serious conversation going.
I like that idea.
"Come to TG world. See how all the other halves live."
Okay, why not. Spoz I could use some peace and quiet. It will be peaceful, right, Rebis? (Can we settle somewhere away from the Hurricane Coast? and somewhere away from the sorts of insects that pick you up and carry you off to feed their pupae?)
How abouyt the moon..that was my first thought ^^
We could live in darkness, silence and ...wait, that doesnt sound to promising does it? ;D
The best TG colony or dream is a more accepting society
Quote from: Nichole W. on February 02, 2008, 10:08:19 PM
Okay, why not. Spoz I could use some peace and quiet. It will be peaceful, right, Rebis? (Can we settle somewhere away from the Hurricane Coast? and somewhere away from the sorts of insects that pick you up and carry you off to feed their pupae?)
Those insects are my friends. I promised them that I would always provide for them and their zillions of young ones.
Quote from: Rebis on February 03, 2008, 02:24:25 PM
Quote from: Nichole W. on February 02, 2008, 10:08:19 PM
Okay, why not. Spoz I could use some peace and quiet. It will be peaceful, right, Rebis? (Can we settle somewhere away from the Hurricane Coast? and somewhere away from the sorts of insects that pick you up and carry you off to feed their pupae?)
Those insects are my friends. I promised them that I would always provide for them and their zillions of young ones.
In that case, sweetie. I believe I'll just remain where I am and not allow you to know exactly where that is!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Nichole
My friends won't hurt you. They'll only bite you all over and remove only what they need. No more & no less than what they need.
Come to think of it, I've been seeing a lot of people I'd like to bite all over.
Quote from: Rebis on February 03, 2008, 06:13:17 PM
My friends won't hurt you. They'll only bite you all over and remove only what they need. No more & no less than what they need.
Come to think of it, I've been seeing a lot of people I'd like to bite all over.
humm sounds like rebis needs to eat more steaks :P
Quote from: Rebis on February 03, 2008, 06:13:17 PM
My friends won't hurt you. They'll only bite you all over and remove only what they need. No more & no less than what they need.
Come to think of it, I've been seeing a lot of people I'd like to bite all over.
Sounds like Rebis needs to eat more Zyprexa!!! :laugh: :laugh:
You were once so very sweet and likable. And now you have these giant insect friends that want to eat 'only what they need' from my body!! And you are gonna assist them!!
Rebis, I have a few 'friends' of my own. Some work at Terminex and others at the State Hospital. Perhaps we can introduce our 'friends' to each other and I can introduce a couple of friends to you? :)
N~
Zyprexa and Terminex :o thank god i got raid nichole :P
Quote from: Nichole W. on February 03, 2008, 06:37:11 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 03, 2008, 06:13:17 PM
My friends won't hurt you. They'll only bite you all over and remove only what they need. No more & no less than what they need.
Come to think of it, I've been seeing a lot of people I'd like to bite all over.
Sounds like Rebis needs to eat more Zyprexa!!! :laugh: :laugh:
You were once so very sweet and likable. And now you have these giant insect friends that want to eat 'only what they need' from my body!! And you are gonna assist them!!
Rebis, I have a few 'friends' of my own. Some work at Terminex and others at the State Hospital. Perhaps we can introduce our 'friends' to each other and I can introduce a couple of friends to you? :)
N~
Please tell me you know I'm only pretending. I'm not trying to make anyone uncomfortable. Sometimes I like to pretend that life is a B sci fi picture. It's fun!
also, I think the paxil is shorting my creativity, or at least, my expressing of it. Maybe it slips out in my posts.
Terminex and hospital orderlies, add 'em to the plot of the B, or C, movie. :laugh:
N~
Terminex
scary hospital orderlies
giant crawlies
giant flying crawlies
character who loves insects (institutionalized)
Cult that worships insects
rusty pickup truck
old dirt road
people who disbelieve
check
"We're gonna get that galaxy this time!!" Insect aliens in Detroit at ForMOCo!! Rebis the cracked, and only unintentionally evil, CEO swayed by the whispers of the henchmen of the evil Emperor Ming!!
Space Captain Nichole and Fleet Captain Debbie pilot their scout ship into Washington DC to assist MIBs in defusing this terrible circumstance and to wrench their friend Rebis from the clutches of Ming's drones: Paxil and Zyprexa!!
It's a start!! Get to work. :laugh:
Nichole
Quote from: Nichole W. on February 04, 2008, 05:40:36 PM
"We're gonna get that galaxy this time!!" Insect aliens in Detroit at ForMOCo!! Rebis the cracked, and only unintentionally evil, CEO swayed by the whispers of the henchmen of the evil Emperor Ming!!
Space Captain Nichole and Fleet Captain Debbie pilot their scout ship into Washington DC to assist MIBs in defusing this terrible circumstance and to wrench their friend Rebis from the clutches of Ming's drones: Paxil and Zyprexa!!
It's a start!! Get to work. :laugh:
Nichole
I I capton we are at full power and ready to give that evil Emperor Ming! and that Rebis the cracked,
a threshing they soon wont forget caption nichole :D
Let's go to ForMoCo first, captain Debbie. Blast the bugger Rebis awake from his stupor!! Set heading for River Rouge!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Come awake Rebis.
Quote from: Nichole W. on February 04, 2008, 08:02:48 PM
Let's go to ForMoCo first, captain Debbie. Blast the bugger Rebis awake from his stupor!! Set heading for River Rouge!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Come awake Rebis.
II caption nichole wrap drive is now engaged. and lasers and photon aray are standing by at this time
that bugger rebis will be shaken up good with our photon aray ii caption nichole :D
why don't you just find a very hungry ant-eater?
Quote from: Pica Pica on February 04, 2008, 08:32:26 PM
why don't you just find a very hungry ant-eater?
well pica pica my dear good idea only problem with that is that ant eaters ant very good at frying >:D
It would be like a leper colony, but with better skin (not including MTFs with bad electrolysis). I hope it's government subsidized, because I'm kind of strapped right now for cash. Btw, you guys are weird.
Quote from: siouxsie on February 04, 2008, 09:37:07 PM
It would be like a leper colony, but with better skin (not including MTFs with bad electrolysis). I hope it's government subsidized, because I'm kind of strapped right now for cash. Btw, you guys are weird.
well i can say its government subsidized :) and sometimes its more better to be weird and have some fun
and enjoy your self :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: siouxsie on February 04, 2008, 09:37:07 PM
It would be like a leper colony, but with better skin (not including MTFs with bad electrolysis). I hope it's government subsidized, because I'm kind of strapped right now for cash. Btw, you guys are weird.
oh Christ. She's onto us.
I just realized you've decided to come gunning for me. I'm calling my friend, Kaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhnnnn!, to help me and to help Ming with the zipper on the back of Ming's dress. Then you'll all be sorry.
This colony will be mine once and for all. Your anteaters, your RAID, and your Zambonis will all be useless against me.
a ->-bleeped-<- wako?
R >:D
Don't drink the kool-aid ;)
y2g
Quote from: y2gender on February 05, 2008, 08:48:04 AM
Don't drink the kool-aid ;)
y2g
and dont touvh the mouten dew :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Posted on: February 05, 2008, 09:05:24 AM
Quote from: Rachael on February 05, 2008, 08:23:14 AM
a ->-bleeped-<- wako?
R >:D
where where where where where where where where where :laugh:
Posted on: February 05, 2008, 09:07:15 AM
Quote from: Rebis on February 04, 2008, 10:48:13 PM
Quote from: siouxsie on February 04, 2008, 09:37:07 PM
It would be like a leper colony, but with better skin (not including MTFs with bad electrolysis). I hope it's government subsidized, because I'm kind of strapped right now for cash. Btw, you guys are weird.
oh Christ. She's onto us.
I just realized you've decided to come gunning for me. I'm calling my friend, Kaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhnnnn!, to help me and to help Ming with the zipper on the back of Ming's dress. Then you'll all be sorry.
This colony will be mine once and for all. Your anteaters, your RAID, and your Zambonis will all be useless against me.
oh yes yes rebis my dear wr are on to you :laugh:call who ever you like they wont be able to help you >:D >:D
little do you know my secret weapon i have made in my secret lab just for you rebis my dear >:D >:D >:D >:D
indeed... so much bitching can only last so long....
->-bleeped-<- colony = powder keg...
R >:D
Quote from: redfish on February 05, 2008, 09:11:55 AM
I'd give the colony a good two or three days before it breaks into civil war..
We're at war now and we haven't even built it.
Here, have some kool-aid.
Posted on: February 05, 2008, 11:35:44 AM
Quote from: Rachael on February 05, 2008, 10:13:54 AM
indeed... so much bitching can only last so long....
->-bleeped-<- colony = powder keg...
R >:D
if there was a powder keg, the rest of us would have to strong arm our way past the MtF's.
Quote from: redfish on February 05, 2008, 11:51:00 AM
I've never been very fond of Kool-Aid
cant blame you on that redfish try mouten dew. its got some kick too it wow :P
Posted on: February 05, 2008, 11:53:45 AM
Quote from: Rebis on February 05, 2008, 11:37:07 AM
Quote from: redfish on February 05, 2008, 09:11:55 AM
I'd give the colony a good two or three days before it breaks into civil war..
We're at war now and we haven't even built it.
Here, have some kool-aid.
Posted on: February 05, 2008, 11:35:44 AM
Quote from: Rachael on February 05, 2008, 10:13:54 AM
indeed... so much bitching can only last so long....
->-bleeped-<- colony = powder keg...
R >:D
if there was a powder keg, the rest of us would have to strong arm our way past the MtF's.
you think rebis?????? :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Rebis on February 05, 2008, 11:37:07 AM
Quote from: redfish on February 05, 2008, 09:11:55 AM
I'd give the colony a good two or three days before it breaks into civil war..
We're at war now and we haven't even built it.
Here, have some kool-aid.
Posted on: February 05, 2008, 11:35:44 AM
Quote from: Rachael on February 05, 2008, 10:13:54 AM
indeed... so much bitching can only last so long....
->-bleeped-<- colony = powder keg...
R >:D
if there was a powder keg, the rest of us would have to strong arm our way past the MtF's.
I would imagine that there would be very few of us there. Many would not want to be in the same area as "all you other people." They'd much rather be whining about 'loss of male privilege' over bourbon in Key West, San Diego or Sarasota.
Besides, why would most anyone want to live in a leper colony subject to attacks by giant bugs who only want to 'eat parts' of them?
Given that setting I cannot even imagine most of the most exclusive WBTs having the urge for a civil war. Okay, maybe some of the MOST exclusive ones. *sigh* :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Nichole
What's a WBT?
I have a new colonizing idea.
We start colonies all across the earth so that our people will always have a haven when we're traveling. The colonies will be very loosely held together by a federation of insect gods. Just kidding about insect gods. I understand some of you worship kitties. I prefer to worship monkeys myself. so you can worship anything you'd like; just don't get caught washing your feet with it.
in radical feminism :P
Rebis: i suspect many m2fs wouldnt be there, we can blend into society and live happily in the real world, we dont need some imaginery play world to protect us from nasty reality. all theoretical to your point of course.
R >:D
everyone needs an imaginary play world to protect them from nasty reality, however they were born.
Quote from: Pica Pica on February 05, 2008, 06:05:17 PM
everyone needs an imaginary play world to protect them from nasty reality, however they were born.
indeed pica pica indeed
Quote from: Rachael on February 05, 2008, 04:54:56 PM
in radical feminism :P
Rebis: i suspect many m2fs wouldnt be there, we can blend into society and live happily in the real world, we dont need some imaginery play world to protect us from nasty reality. all theoretical to your point of course.
R >:D
No one is required to join. Plus,
as I keep saying, it's not a trans only community. It is a mix of all kinds of people with tolerance of LGBT inherent in the community. You could live next to that Mr Wilson guy who used to live by Dennis the Menace and Mr Wilson would have no issue with you or anyone else in the neighborhood even if they wore a skirt and a bow tie to work. He would just continue to have PSTD related to Dennis and his evil slingshot.
Rebis, I like this island or world you have created. Even to go there just for a break would be good, just to get away from the harshness that is reality. Being tough and angry all the time can be pretty tiring! :)
Can I be the city manager? Some place ought to have one intentionally trans.
If not, I'll grab Zythrya and a couple of guitars, we can be the evening entertainment.
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Quote from: Kristi on February 06, 2008, 06:58:40 AM
Can I be the city manager? Some place ought to have one intentionally trans.
If not, I'll grab Zythrya and a couple of guitars, we can be the evening entertainment.
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Sure... no trans city managers will be fired here ;)
And we can definitely jam at Pica's Pub ;D
Z
All anyone needs for a job is the qualification, which is why I'll be street sweeper.
Maybe we can take over Australia and have an entire continent.
i hope you have the street sweeper's qualification
Quote from: Pica Pica on February 06, 2008, 08:34:43 AM
i hope you have the street sweeper's qualification
I have a framed dustpan on my wall.
Quote from: Rebis on February 06, 2008, 09:49:20 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on February 06, 2008, 08:34:43 AM
i hope you have the street sweeper's qualification
I have a framed dustpan on my wall.
oh rebis you are just too much hugs :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I would be so there. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.invision.smileyville.net%2Fsmilies%2Fgirl%2520%2810%29.gif&hash=93d23905830deda7da5ab94984ff99ef0f336be9)
Quote from: Rebis on February 06, 2008, 07:40:45 AM
All anyone needs for a job is the qualification, which is why I'll be street sweeper.
Maybe we can take over Australia and have an entire continent.
That would be an excellent idea! :) Save me packing my bags. >:D
We'd just have to get rid of the rednecks, nasty little creatures keep popping up everywhere. :-\
Ok, seriously, I have money...however, is there gonna be any of that 'age-->-bleeped-<--gap' crap? cus' if i get booted i will be forced to arm all of the other middle-aged bagtroll's like myself and take it back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:D >:D >:D
if I hear any age crap, I'll duc tape the person's mouth for you.
Quote from: Rebis on February 10, 2008, 01:21:43 AM
if I hear any age crap, I'll duck tape the person's mouth for you.
oh rebis hugs :-* :-*
reeb for secret policeman
Quote from: debbie.j on February 10, 2008, 10:11:03 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on February 10, 2008, 05:29:15 PM
reeb for secret policeman
i 2nd it !!
Yay, I'm with you all, reeb for head honcho of the secret police. :)
Could I be the offsider? The one that asks all the stupid questions but makes a good cuppa for distressed individuals. And gags whenever they see blood or screams when they see creepy crawlies and well, just is plain annoying most of the time. I'd love
that job!! ;D
Quote from: Rebis on February 10, 2008, 01:21:43 AM
if I hear any age crap, I'll duc tape the person's mouth for you.
*point and laughs* :D You are sooooo old!! *runs and hides*
Quote from: funnygrl on February 10, 2008, 12:58:58 AM
Ok, seriously, I have money...however, is there gonna be any of that 'age-->-bleeped-<--gap' crap? cus' if i get booted i will be forced to arm all of the other middle-aged bagtroll's like myself and take it back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:D >:D >:D
Dammit! I can't even claim middle age, I'm too old. Okay, I'll visit the place, but if it pisses me off, I'm back to the truly diverse, real world, with all its warts. If I get beat up enough, I'll come back for a while again though.
Bev
Quote from: Laura91 on February 11, 2008, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 10, 2008, 01:21:43 AM
if I hear any age crap, I'll duc tape the person's mouth for you.
*point and laughs* :D You are sooooo old!! *runs and hides*
you'd better run! I carry a mean feather. >:D
Quote from: Rebis on February 12, 2008, 10:19:11 PM
Quote from: Laura91 on February 11, 2008, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 10, 2008, 01:21:43 AM
if I hear any age crap, I'll duc tape the person's mouth for you.
*point and laughs* :D You are sooooo old!! *runs and hides*
you'd better run! I carry a mean feather. >:D
you can carry a mean feather all you want rebis my dear. but it wont last long with me >:D >:D >:D >:D
Posted on: February 13, 2008, 08:11:41 AM
Quote from: redfish on February 13, 2008, 12:08:47 AM
"I think this milk is past its expiration date"
Is hauled away and never heard from again
EEEEEWWWWWWW bad milk EEEEEEWWWWWW redfish please make sure that bad milk stays gone for
ever pretty please redfish
Quote from: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 07:13:24 AM
EEEEEWWWWWWW bad milk EEEEEEWWWWWW redfish please make sure that bad milk stays gone for
ever pretty please redfish
mmmm yogurt ;)
Z
Quote from: y2gender on February 13, 2008, 07:41:16 AM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 07:13:24 AM
EEEEEWWWWWWW bad milk EEEEEEWWWWWW redfish please make sure that bad milk stays gone for
ever pretty please redfish
mmmm yogurt ;)
Z
iam just gettting to like yorgurt y2g but still bad milk is VERY EEEEEEWWWWWW EEEEEEWWWWWW ::)
Quote from: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 05:40:16 PM
iam just gettting to like yorgurt y2g but still bad milk is VERY EEEEEEWWWWWW EEEEEEWWWWWW ::)
Yes, it's funny, things like sour cream, yogurt, etc are all great, but bad milk.... ick!
y2g
Quote from: y2gender on February 13, 2008, 09:13:19 PM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 05:40:16 PM
iam just gettting to like yorgurt y2g but still bad milk is VERY EEEEEEWWWWWW EEEEEEWWWWWW ::)
Yes, it's funny, things like sour cream, yogurt, etc are all great, but bad milk.... ick!
y2g
hiyea y2g :)yup whats funny to me is its talking me a while to get to the point now i can have sour cream
and yogurt with out thinking about it . as a child i could never do that at all, and bad milk is very icky indeed
Hi,
I already live in a TG commune in the UK, near the seaside. We have backup power for our issues and together we gather strength to deal with the problems..........
Whilst you would not be able to catch me on the way to your Utopia (!) I am also aware of the maelstrom of hormones that accumulate. You will have to include a pressure relief valve in your manifesto.
Love to join you if it is going to warm and dry there
N
well, you'd certainly be welcome, Nigno.
Quote from: nigno on February 15, 2008, 04:43:07 AM
Hi,
I already live in a TG commune in the UK, near the seaside. We have backup power for our issues and together we gather strength to deal with the problems..........
Whilst you would not be able to catch me on the way to your Utopia (!) I am also aware of the maelstrom of hormones that accumulate. You will have to include a pressure relief valve in your manifesto.
Love to join you if it is going to warm and dry there
N
where is it? could do with a holiday
Quote from: Pica Pica on February 15, 2008, 08:37:45 PM
Quote from: nigno on February 15, 2008, 04:43:07 AM
Hi,
I already live in a TG commune in the UK, near the seaside. We have backup power for our issues and together we gather strength to deal with the problems..........
Whilst you would not be able to catch me on the way to your Utopia (!) I am also aware of the maelstrom of hormones that accumulate. You will have to include a pressure relief valve in your manifesto.
Love to join you if it is going to warm and dry there
N
where is it? could do with a holiday
indeed pica pica indeed :)
these days, I'm thinking Puget Sound in Oregon or someplace near San Fransisco.
Quote from: Rebis on February 16, 2008, 11:21:11 PM
these days, I'm thinking Puget Sound in Oregon or someplace near San Fransisco.
my self if i was to move that far from where iam at right now i think cali would be great or maybe even
florida maybe . but oregon iam not sure about tho ::)
Quote from: debbie.j on February 16, 2008, 11:36:01 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 16, 2008, 11:21:11 PM
these days, I'm thinking Puget Sound in Oregon or someplace near San Fransisco.
my self if i was to move that far from where iam at right now i think cali would be great or maybe even
florida maybe . but oregon iam not sure about tho ::)
Maybe you should change plans and look at Aus land, we welcome Americans ;) ;D
that's right. I forgot that. we could settle a whole continent. have a place in the U.N.
Quote from: Rebis on February 16, 2008, 11:21:11 PM
these days, I'm thinking Puget Sound in Oregon or someplace near San Fransisco.
Uhhh...Puget Sound is in Washington state. The Northern part, including Seattle. It's not even close to Oregon! ::)
And the Puget Sound is C.O.L.D. and very, very wet. Matter of fact, the only rain forest in the US is Olympic National Park. And I thought SF was a gay/TG colony, we're just open minded and let the straights live here too.
Quote from: Claire de Lune on February 17, 2008, 10:32:35 AM
Quote from: Rebis on February 16, 2008, 11:21:11 PM
these days, I'm thinking Puget Sound in Oregon or someplace near San Fransisco.
Uhhh...Puget Sound is in Washington state. The Northern part, including Seattle. It's not even close to Oregon! ::)
I wouldn't know. I have a public education.
Posted on: February 17, 2008, 10:28:18 PM
Quote from: tekla on February 17, 2008, 01:10:08 PM
And the Puget Sound is C.O.L.D. and very, very wet. Matter of fact, the only rain forest in the US is Olympic National Park. And I thought SF was a gay/TG colony, we're just open minded and let the straights live here too.
I keep saying that TG colony does not preclude straights. Why doesn't anyone remember that. Equality and fairness for all.
I thought of SF because I figured someone had already put the hard work into it. Heh heh. I might be public educated, but that doesn't necessarily make me stupid (my parents genes do that for me).
Not to be grim or anything, but wouldn't that put us all in a convenient same place where they can bomb us if they want?
Have a joyful day!
I guess you will be on the war council.
Quote from: Rebis on February 23, 2008, 10:40:30 PM
I guess you will be on the war council.
eep looks like rebis is getting a little forgetfull again epp ! rebis hun we got that already taken care of
and we dont need a war council . but iam sure there some other job you could findem tho :)
i just know you can rebis i have faith in you ;) ;D
Quote from: debbie.j on February 23, 2008, 10:49:34 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 23, 2008, 10:40:30 PM
I guess you will be on the war council.
eep looks like rebis is getting a little forgetfull again epp ! rebis hun we got that already taken care of
and we dont need a war council . but iam sure there some other job you could findem tho :)
i just know you can rebis i have faith in you ;) ;D
I was just kidding, Debbie,
I was going to make them think we had a war council, but it would really be a committee to place flowers around the colony to keep people smiling. Heh heh. even I can lie. Wait a minute! that's not good. I have shamed myself.
Quote from: Rebis on February 23, 2008, 10:56:03 PM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 23, 2008, 10:49:34 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 23, 2008, 10:40:30 PM
I guess you will be on the war council.
eep looks like rebis is getting a little forgetfull again epp ! rebis hun we got that already taken care of
and we dont need a war council . but iam sure there some other job you could findem tho :)
i just know you can rebis i have faith in you ;) ;D
I was just kidding, Debbie,
I was going to make them think we had a war council, but it would really be a committee to place flowers around the colony to keep people smiling. Heh heh. even I can lie. Wait a minute! that's not good. I have shamed myself.
NO you have not shamed your self rebis not at all. and i like that idea very much there is noting like
fresh flowers :) but could you mabe getem to plant some red roses and dasiys too PRETTY PLEASE ;D
Anything you like, Honey.
Quote from: Rebis on February 24, 2008, 11:59:12 AM
Anything you like, Honey.
thank you rebis hun your so sweeet :icon_hug: and a big old :-* :-*
Quote from: Rebis on February 23, 2008, 10:40:30 PM
I guess you will be on the war council.
[GIR voice] YES SIR!! ;P
A TG colony with a war council will be little better than what went before it.
i would move there! :laugh:
Quote from: Lily Rose on January 02, 2017, 12:57:10 PM
i would move there! :laugh:
Lily, be careful what you wish for. You may get it...
Try tossing this into the Corrupt-A-Wish thread to see what could happen...
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,198103.0.html
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thank you michelle,
i can see a few ways a wish like that could be corrupted. like someone could put up a big beautiful wall and say gotchas now lol c(=
however if as the op described i would love it. not only due to the difficult road i see before me.
Three years ago, a transgender high school friend and I planned to run away together to a transgender community on an island in Baja Sur, where some famous transgender people currently live. The indigenous Indian tribe that inhabits the island accepts a Third Gender, so have no problem with the community, and the people buy fresh sea food from the tribe fishermen.
Plans fell apart when my friend lost courage, but those communities do exist already.
I can truly understand an "oasis" a place of peace from our societies sometimes cruel in-acceptance of trans folk! Gays and lesbians have been doing it for years, resorts and vacation spots as well as living communities and even parts of certain states where people live that are exclusively gay or that are "gay friendly"!
Women have also created "safe space" festivals where they are free from a dominant male society and its oppression on women. Culturally, some feel more comfortable to live in areas where the share the same views with others if the same race or religion but ultimately it is segregating ourselves and although a nice place to spend some get away time in comfort and to relax, it would do us more harm than good to not be visible and to not take our rightful place in everyday society where we have the right to live! We cannot deal with life's issues if we escape them completely! (my thoughts) Blessings! Julie [emoji177]
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