So this has been a thought I was wondering if I was alone on , im 25 intersexed transsexual , im self employed I vote republican, I know there is some standards wrong with the party when it comes to marriage but when it comes to my purse I just cant vote democrats am I alone in this
Many people who are trans* find themselves in a connumdrum about politics. Some of us who are older struggle with the baggage of having been conservative politically until we came out to ourselves. Sadly, many "conservative" politicians find it useful to throw trans* under the bus to advance their own vested interests. So deciding who to vote "for" becomes a really challenging effort.
For decades I was a registered Republican, for the last fifteen years I have been a registered Democrat. The last is to get my vote to have some effect on the local level. I sort of vote for who I prefer at the time and it is NEVER the full slate of candidates for either party.
Being 25, you may not recall the actions of the Republican Congress for the first six years of the Bush administration. This was profligate spending to the point of forcing John McCain to state "As a former drunken sailor I have to object to the spending habits of Congress being compared to those of druken sailors..." So, voting GOP is no guarentee that what they do will be good for your purse.
You are neither alone nor "different" from the crowd.
Erin
I'm more inclined to vote Democratic out of the two main parties, but it's only because I view them as the lesser of two evils. I so wish third parties actually had a shot at winning... I'm so disgusted with the major parties that I really don't even want to vote at all anymore... I may start voting exclusively for third party candidates.
Well you probably are different from the trans crowd in the sense you'd be in a minority in terms of your political views. The whole LGBT spectrum tends to lean towards different shades of liberal by a big margin. Here's a Gallup poll from the summer of 2012
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcontent.gallup.com%2Forigin%2Fgallupinc%2FGallupSpaces%2FProduction%2FCms%2FPOLL%2Fp2w0ghqjr0kqqmpedokm_w.gif&hash=db7944a2acdefc07eac53d0fc813beed89992864)
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/158102/lgbt-americans-skew-democratic-largely-support-obama.aspx
I've never seen a trans specific poll on voting habits, but I doubt it'd be much different. Also as with the general public there's an age difference, the older LGBT people got the more likely they were to be Republicans and the younger side leaning even more Democratic.
No you're not alone. I'm fiscally conservative and socially open minded. I'm a Republicrat or is it Demoblican?
Unless you're a millionaire, you're not actually "voting your purse" when you vote Republican. Republican policies over the past few decades have been responsible for the huge transfer of wealth to a tiny, super-rich minority via changes in tax policy... and for the empowerment of Wall Street and the big banks, which led to the mortgage crisis and the ongoing destruction of the middle class...
Even the so-called Affordable Care Act, the dreaded Obamacare, is based on a system designed by Republicans in Massachusetts; it's designed to enrich insurance companies, not to make health care genuinely available for all.
It's sort of ironic that that the Republicans now blame all this on the Democrats, given that the Democrats have had to adopt many Republican policies, especially those pertaining to the business and financial sectors, in order to get the same level of corporate campaign funding historically enjoyed by Republicans.
I understand all of that which is why I voted for mitt, actually three of my main customers are high up in the republican party and I even did a big job for mitts campaign him being the one cutting my paycheck so yes I actually am voting for my purse
And bill Clinton is the one that deregulated the banks with getting rid of glass Steagall
Nope, there's at least a few of us who vote right; I'm one of them, there's also Zoe who does so. Straight party Republican here, as I vote with job security and success on the line. I think the more you regulate business, the less jobs it creates; large corporations employed 76% of Americans a few years ago, which I figure is why it's so crucial. My future is in derivatives, hedge trading, or financial analysis, trading futures, options, etc. If you harm business, you harm my job and me. I am very happy to see Wall Street less regulated, but that's not for here.
Of course, this isn't the only reason, far from it; my vote goes to Mitt, a Cruz, Rand Paul, or whoever, because I think it's better for the country. There's a lot of other reasons my vote goes Republican, but sadly the thread where I discussed it in massive detail was deleted. Sigh, that post took a good two hours to construct and give my reasons for, with the numbers backing them. I touched upon every issue, as if it were my platform for a position. Oh well.
It's doubly rare to have me, given my age as a millenial (22), and transitioning, but here we are. I do worry though, as someone in a total blue state as of now, among other items, if I run for office someday, as I'd very much like to, how well it could work. I suppose I can look at Donna Milo and Lauren Scott, seemingly.
Quote from: tracy176 on November 11, 2014, 05:54:18 PM
And bill Clinton is the one that deregulated the banks with getting rid of glass Steagall
True fact, however while the repeal accelerated everything, I'd say it was an 80% symbolic move, banks were easily avoiding the provisions of Glass-Steagall by that point. Capital and deposits from commercial sector was already being highly gambled and over leveraged by the investment bank sector due to the widespread adaptation of new financial devices(mortgage securities which everyone is familiar with, but CDOs and derivatives as well). I'd also point out while Clinton signed it, what opposition there was to it passing in congress was overwhelmingly Democratic.
I am a democrat - but I think the Republican Party is finally taking some steps in the right direction with respect to their platform on social issues - which makes me happy!
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I vote Independent with a slight favor towards the Democrats. I get the idea of "voting for your purse," except the Republican party really only helps out the purses of the super-rich. The rest of us are left in the dust. I will rarely be seen voting Republican because they rarely have my interests in mind. The Democrats aren't my favorites either, but occasionally they'll do something that makes sense.
Google voluntaryism. You CAN be socially open without AND have sound economic and ethical understanding. :)
Quote from: tracy176 on November 11, 2014, 10:44:18 AM
So this has been a thought I was wondering if I was alone on , im 25 intersexed transsexual , im self employed I vote republican, I know there is some standards wrong with the party when it comes to marriage but when it comes to my purse I just cant vote democrats am I alone in this
Nope not alone!! I'm a 100% card carrying, Tea Party Republican. And if your wondering, when you go as far right as I am.....yeah you catch PLENTY of flack for it, but like you said, I can't understand voting for a party that spends money like there is no limit.....now I know some is going to mention Clinton, but remember the President doesn't write the budget, or make laws, they just make them official, when we created that budget surplus there was a Republican majority in Congress. Wanna point out Bush....there was a Democrat majority in Congress and the spending started and depleted the budget surplus long before his War on Terror....or as I called it, a trip to the sand box that constantly jammed my M4.
Tracy, people here are from many political persuasions. I am a registered independent who was formerly a Democrat. I have voted across party lines for years. I'm sure we all vote for the person we believe reflects our views and positions on issues. Nothing wrong with that at all. If I told some of my friends I've voted Republican, they would probably blow a gasket.
:)
One of the most annoying things is that just because you're liberally open minded on social issues that you are automatically aligned to the democratic party, and that if you're gay or trans that you're automatically democrat. I try to stay out of politics because I don't like either side, but the whole "republicans bad, democrats good" message that is conveyed to young people really bugs me.
I've been Democrat my entire life with absolutely no plans to change. I don't know maybe it's because I'm on welfare and hope for more social change rather than trickle down change.
When I did vote, I would vote for the candidate that I thought was best. I've voted Republican and I've voted Democrat. These days, I stay out of it. Frankly, I think that both sides suck and are only out to benefit themselves and their backers.
The only reason I vote democrat is for the GLBT community. Usually democrats are more apt to be for GLBT rights than republicans. I would vote republican if the republican believed in GLBT and promised to grant more rights to us.
Quote from: Tysilio on November 11, 2014, 03:42:11 PM
Unless you're a millionaire, you're not actually "voting your purse" when you vote Republican. Republican policies over the past few decades have been responsible for the huge transfer of wealth to a tiny, super-rich minority via changes in tax policy... and for the empowerment of Wall Street and the big banks, which led to the mortgage crisis and the ongoing destruction of the middle class...
Even the so-called Affordable Care Act, the dreaded Obamacare, is based on a system designed by Republicans in Massachusetts; it's designed to enrich insurance companies, not to make health care genuinely available for all.
It's sort of ironic that that the Republicans now blame all this on the Democrats, given that the Democrats have had to adopt many Republican policies, especially those pertaining to the business and financial sectors, in order to get the same level of corporate campaign funding historically enjoyed by Republicans.
Yes I agree with this. I'm not rich either so that's another reason I can't vote republican.
Quote from: tracy176 on November 11, 2014, 10:44:18 AM
So this has been a thought I was wondering if I was alone on , im 25 intersexed transsexual , im self employed I vote republican, I know there is some standards wrong with the party when it comes to marriage but when it comes to my purse I just cant vote democrats am I alone in this
Not at all.
I am a gun owning, concealed carrying, pro law enforcement, pro American, pro Israel, pro life, church going and pro business registered Republican myself. I do vote for libertarian leaning candidates myself though.
I can't vote for Democratic candidates either. I have seen what they have done to NJ and while they are excellent on LGBT rights here they are awful on nearly everything else.
However -
I am 100% for clean energy such as wind and solar. However, I am not for making solar panels by dumping lead into the environment, and I'm not for killing birds with windmills or clearing forests to build solar farms.
I believe 100% that global climate change is real. I do not believe cap and trade will do anything other than put money in Democratic party and friends' pockets. So, drill baby drill, but let's make cars more efficient and harness carbon free energy such as solar, wind and nuclear.
I am 100% for religious freedom. As a Catholic myself, I want my church to decide its own moral compass, not the Government. However, everyone should have equal rights. The right to marry, the right to adopt, and yes, the right to use the bathroom!
I am 100% for gay rights. I am of course 100% for rights for people of transgender experience. Everyone should have a right to marry. Where I draw the line is where it forces private businesses or religious institutions to do things. I believe the market will take care of the haters for the most part, and religion, is, well, religion.
I believe that armed gays and trans people don't get bashed.
I believe that health insurance should be accessible to all. However a government bureaucracy isn't the answer. Market based solutions can work with light Government mandates, but not a heavy hand. The ACA is somewhat like that but it had so much things put in by the insurance companies and friends of politicians that it actually makes things worse.
And no I would never vote for Ted Cruz or anyone who criminalizes my daily life... I wouldn't vote for Chris Christie either even though I voted for him for Governor. He's better than the alternative.
Quote from: ErinWDK on November 11, 2014, 01:06:32 PM
Many people who are trans* find themselves in a connumdrum about politics. Some of us who are older struggle with the baggage of having been conservative politically until we came out to ourselves. Sadly, many "conservative" politicians find it useful to throw trans* under the bus to advance their own vested interests. So deciding who to vote "for" becomes a really challenging effort.
To be really fair, Democrats also do this. (http://firedoglake.com/2011/02/15/enda-an-800pound-transgender-elephant-with-issues-in-the-room/) Just sayin.
I know a trans Republican. She confounds me. I just don't see how anyone LGBT could identify with the right wing.
I am a strait up Commie Vegan transsexual
I love politics.