Here you go 8)
Well I suppose I'll give it a whirl for the first post. Getting better at the makeup I think.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe239%2Fgoldendragonlord%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps92c4b402.jpg&hash=6fa142cb6ab2fe521476a3dac2f1f014e67858b7) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/goldendragonlord/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps92c4b402.jpg.html)
<---I'll use my current Avatar since we are starting over. ;D
Quote from: Jasriella on November 16, 2014, 05:30:04 PM
Well I suppose I'll give it a whirl for the first post. Getting better at the makeup I think.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe239%2Fgoldendragonlord%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps92c4b402.jpg&hash=6fa142cb6ab2fe521476a3dac2f1f014e67858b7) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/goldendragonlord/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps92c4b402.jpg.html)
to be honest I do not think you pass in this pic, but I think with some hrt, more feminine clothing, and new wig/ hair growth( if possible), and lasers, you could easily pass.
Your make up looks nice and it looks like you have clear skin.
Quote from: Jessika on November 16, 2014, 05:47:49 PM
<---I'll use my current Avatar since we are starting over. ;D
You are really pretty and a definite pass!
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 16, 2014, 06:11:35 PM
You are really pretty and a definite pass!
Amber, i believe you need to look into laser or electrolosis. Your shadow gives you away very quickly. I haventhe same problem. :(
Quote from: Rotika on November 16, 2014, 06:17:53 PM
Amber, i believe you need to look into laser or electrolosis. Your shadow gives you away very quickly. I haventhe same problem. :(
I was actually not putting down whether I pass. I was actually replying to someone else's post. and the quote pointed to me.
But I am looking into lasers. I need them bad.....
heres a better pic in which I feel like I pass a lot better
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/f5bkny9z6mvnwb7/AADSMCKBEcm-1nZ6PlmyFdzja (https://www.dropbox.com/sc/f5bkny9z6mvnwb7/AADSMCKBEcm-1nZ6PlmyFdzja)
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 16, 2014, 06:28:51 PM
I was actually not putting down whether I pass. I was actually replying to someone else's post. and the quote pointed to me.
But I am looking into lasers. I need them bad.....
heres a better pic in which I feel like I pass a lot better
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/f5bkny9z6mvnwb7/AADSMCKBEcm-1nZ6PlmyFdzja (https://www.dropbox.com/sc/f5bkny9z6mvnwb7/AADSMCKBEcm-1nZ6PlmyFdzja)
Oh crap I'm sorry... :( i read your post wrong. Your posted pic looks really cute tho. With some laser I think we'll both be doing loads better. I'll post a newer pic soon. I look like crap and will make everyone feel awesome lol
Quote from: Rotika on November 16, 2014, 06:39:48 PM
Oh crap I'm sorry... :( i read your post wrong. Your posted pic looks really cute tho. With some laser I think we'll both be doing loads better. I'll post a newer pic soon. I look like crap and will make everyone feel awesome lol
awwwe don't be so hard on your self hun.... we're our own worst critiques. for every good pic i have i have at least 10 bad ones.
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 16, 2014, 06:28:51 PM
I was actually not putting down whether I pass. I was actually replying to someone else's post. and the quote pointed to me.
But I am looking into lasers. I need them bad.....
heres a better pic in which I feel like I pass a lot better
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/f5bkny9z6mvnwb7/AADSMCKBEcm-1nZ6PlmyFdzja (https://www.dropbox.com/sc/f5bkny9z6mvnwb7/AADSMCKBEcm-1nZ6PlmyFdzja)
Looks like a Pass to me. Very beautiful pic. :)
I'm looking into Laser also. 4th Therapy (5th if I count the separate one I had from a Psychiatrist M.D. for a second opinion to back my Therapist) session coming up soon. May get my Letter then for HRT. :D
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 16, 2014, 06:05:15 PM
to be honest I do not think you pass in this pic, but I think with some hrt, more feminine clothing, and new wig/ hair growth( if possible), and lasers, you could easily pass.
Your make up looks nice and it looks like you have clear skin.
Most of that is not an option until the end of the time ticker in my signature. I'm still in the military so HRT and growing out my hair are out of the question till then. I do however plan on the laser hair removal sstarting with the face and working my way down. I'm trying to find a happy medium right now where I can pass without all that and yes a new wig is definitely in order.
Quote from: Jessika on November 16, 2014, 07:12:06 PM
Looks like a Pass to me. Very beautiful pic. :)
I'm looking into Laser also. 4th Therapy (5th if I count the separate one I had from a Psychiatrist M.D. for a second opinion to back my Therapist) session coming up soon. May get my Letter then for HRT. :D
That's awesome!!! Congratulations! we're at a really really similar point in our transition. My referral letter is halfway done and my laser consultation is next week.
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 16, 2014, 07:55:40 PM
That's awesome!!! Congratulations! we're at a really really similar point in our transition. My referral letter is halfway done and my laser consultation is next week.
I'll be visiting my 3rd selection for Laser consultation on the 21st. I just hope Laser and Hormones help me at my age, starting out. :)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10394854_10153307175869838_1920652698295355077_n.jpg?oh=97773836b5b40540f91f16e6ee98bebf&oe=54E4D17A&__gda__=1428108439_e3891c253b004c02fa38c7fe15b3ef4a)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10805181_10153311017194838_1565147328_n.jpg?oh=427403881e25e3b9e2bda776eda2af0a&oe=546C7851&__gda__=1416397696_238d3a9460e9e1d3a8dddf5348917563)
Quote from: Jasriella on November 16, 2014, 05:30:04 PM
Well I suppose I'll give it a whirl for the first post. Getting better at the makeup I think.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe239%2Fgoldendragonlord%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps92c4b402.jpg&hash=6fa142cb6ab2fe521476a3dac2f1f014e67858b7) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/goldendragonlord/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps92c4b402.jpg.html)
agree, need better positioning with the wig or a better wig. Also, the eyebrows.
Haven't posted a picture in awhile. I've been getting a lot of instances of being called my son's mommy when I'm dressed in guy clothes. I haven't been putting an effort into going out female because I'm self conscious about my short hair, but I don't want to wear a wig. I guess I'm starting to reach a point now though where hair length doesn't matter. Anyway here's a picture without makeup or anything I took while I was in the car waiting to pick up my wife.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff324%2Ftheonecalledwill%2Fa737e150-1fde-44ef-9724-956d8bda4b2a.jpg&hash=82e5bc689d7e3d205aac448da948eec021d57a19)
Quote from: Danielle Emmalee on November 16, 2014, 09:18:53 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10394854_10153307175869838_1920652698295355077_n.jpg?oh=97773836b5b40540f91f16e6ee98bebf&oe=54E4D17A&__gda__=1428108439_e3891c253b004c02fa38c7fe15b3ef4a)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10805181_10153311017194838_1565147328_n.jpg?oh=427403881e25e3b9e2bda776eda2af0a&oe=546C7851&__gda__=1416397696_238d3a9460e9e1d3a8dddf5348917563)
Danielle you look great and very feminine in the first photo. No way would I see you as anything other than female. You've a cute look actually that I envy a little. As for the "just out of the shower" photo? :icon_censored: , lol!, You've way more guts than I do girl!
Ally :icon_flower:
Quote from: Allyda on November 16, 2014, 09:49:15 PM
Danielle you look great and very feminine in the first photo. No way would I see you as anything other than female. You've a cute look actually that I envy a little. As for the "just out of the shower" photo? :icon_censored: , lol!, You've way more guts than I do girl!
Ally :icon_flower:
Thanks hun.
Amber the dropbox image looks good! So far transitioning is disappointing for me because things just take so much time, I want things like yesterday but I guess I just gotta be patient.
I'm on my 3rd laser on the 29th. So far I have some pretty big hair free patches showing up on the sides of my face and neck. I was trying to grow out my hair but the hair stylist murdered it despite the fact that I told them I was trying to grow it out. Probably won't be 8 months or so until I start HRT. Not that I want to wait, but I'd like to get through a good deal of laser before I start HRT. I love to dress but I'm kind of holding out for when I am on HRT for a bit, but I still wear womans jeans with a more androgynous shirt pretty much always outside of work.
Quote from: KittyKat on November 16, 2014, 09:46:57 PM
Haven't posted a picture in awhile. I've been getting a lot of instances of being called my son's mommy when I'm dressed in guy clothes. I haven't been putting an effort into going out female because I'm self conscious about my short hair, but I don't want to wear a wig. I guess I'm starting to reach a point now though where hair length doesn't matter. Anyway here's a picture without makeup or anything I took while I was in the car waiting to pick up my wife.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff324%2Ftheonecalledwill%2Fa737e150-1fde-44ef-9724-956d8bda4b2a.jpg&hash=82e5bc689d7e3d205aac448da948eec021d57a19)
It's good to hear from you kittykat! I was just thinking about one of your posts awhile back because I had grown my hair out and wanted to get it cleaned up today. My hair was actually looking pretty good long but just had some messiness I wanted to clean up. Unfortunately I can't see without my glasses and the stylist totally cut too much off even though I simply said I was growing it out and just wanted to get rid of a little volume, wanted it textured a bit, but ended up something way off from my expectations. I guess it is still a bit early as I've still got quite a bit of shadow that I can only hide with lots of makeup. Because it is so obvious I am wearing so much makeup, I don't really like it too much. I've never thought you'd have any problem with transition and your hair looks like it will be easy to work with when it growws out. Yeah, I feel the same, I don't really like wearing wigs too much myself. My hair is NOT easy to work with, but I spent most of my youth styling it long. Yes it took a long time to learn. My main problem is waves and frizz. I found some good anti-friz shampoo and a little hair light hold cream while it dries leaves it very straight and smooth. I was rocking it long for the past few months until today, now I lookin less pretty :icon_sad:
Quote from: Allyda on November 16, 2014, 09:49:15 PM
Danielle you look great and very feminine in the first photo. No way would I see you as anything other than female. You've a cute look actually that I envy a little. As for the "just out of the shower" photo? :icon_censored: , lol!, You've way more guts than I do girl!
Ally :icon_flower:
All seriousness aside, tell her to fire her stunt double, hey they look absolutely nothing alike!
Quote from: Deinewelt on November 16, 2014, 10:22:24 PM
All seriousness aside, tell her to fire her stunt double, hey they look absolutely nothing alike!
I'm confused...
Quote from: Danielle Emmalee on November 16, 2014, 10:23:07 PM
I'm confused...
Danielle,
I apologize if what I said was confusing I just meant that your out of the shower pic looks nothing like your very passable self on the left. :D
Quote from: Deinewelt on November 16, 2014, 10:28:41 PM
Danielle,
I apologize if what I said was confusing I just meant that your out of the shower pic looks nothing like your very passable self on the left. :D
If you say so....lol
My last post vanished in the old thread.
I feel I need chin and nose reduction to pass..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh619%2Fnataliespictures1%2FA881038A-EA63-4FA6-8F76-3A42FD3214F0_zpsi1wj5d6i.jpg&hash=a3dc4aaccc05b2e0103e0a6a6ff3fb36c2744413) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/nataliespictures1/media/A881038A-EA63-4FA6-8F76-3A42FD3214F0_zpsi1wj5d6i.jpg.html)
Feel free to critique.
One day, I'll have better photos (where I don't have to Photoshop them or use makeshift boobs).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.illuminess.net%2Fimages%2Fdressup4.jpg&hash=e61bedb928eb7998a6c464415120ea4bdf83ba36) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.illuminess.net%2Fimages%2Fdressup8.jpg&hash=62d192433cd43a6f73026273bb7ca27919a998e6)
Tomorrow afternoon, I go to the clinic for my endo referral. Check out what they have on their New Patient form:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.illuminess.net%2Fimages%2Flegacy-trans.jpg&hash=a1ddd6fea7aa1bfc3678fae25d3e948d6894b7c7)
Quote from: Deinewelt on November 16, 2014, 10:18:24 PM
It's good to hear from you kittykat! I was just thinking about one of your posts awhile back because I had grown my hair out and wanted to get it cleaned up today. My hair was actually looking pretty good long but just had some messiness I wanted to clean up. Unfortunately I can't see without my glasses and the stylist totally cut too much off even though I simply said I was growing it out and just wanted to get rid of a little volume, wanted it textured a bit, but ended up something way off from my expectations. I guess it is still a bit early as I've still got quite a bit of shadow that I can only hide with lots of makeup. Because it is so obvious I am wearing so much makeup, I don't really like it too much. I've never thought you'd have any problem with transition and your hair looks like it will be easy to work with when it growws out. Yeah, I feel the same, I don't really like wearing wigs too much myself. My hair is NOT easy to work with, but I spent most of my youth styling it long. Yes it took a long time to learn. My main problem is waves and frizz. I found some good anti-friz shampoo and a little hair light hold cream while it dries leaves it very straight and smooth. I was rocking it long for the past few months until today, now I lookin less pretty :icon_sad:
I'm not really having transition problems per say. I just have social anxiety and I moved across country and I haven't gotten all my doctors sorted out yet. I was feeling a lot better before moving, only positive is I am finally out of the military and retired.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2Fvxkkfm.jpg&hash=54b95f0d18d7d8d75640a58348dd840b32913f10)
So...how do I do?
Quote from: kaye on November 17, 2014, 02:04:53 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2Fvxkkfm.jpg&hash=54b95f0d18d7d8d75640a58348dd840b32913f10)
So...how do I do?
Hard to tell without a profile, but from this shot you are progressing well! :)
Quote from: Isabelle on November 16, 2014, 10:48:21 PM
My last post vanished in the old thread.
I feel I need chin and nose reduction to pass..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh619%2Fnataliespictures1%2FA881038A-EA63-4FA6-8F76-3A42FD3214F0_zpsi1wj5d6i.jpg&hash=a3dc4aaccc05b2e0103e0a6a6ff3fb36c2744413) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/nataliespictures1/media/A881038A-EA63-4FA6-8F76-3A42FD3214F0_zpsi1wj5d6i.jpg.html)
Feel free to critique.
just my own opinion, you look fine as is.
Quote from: Isabelle on November 16, 2014, 10:48:21 PM
My last post vanished in the old thread.
I feel I need chin and nose reduction to pass..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh619%2Fnataliespictures1%2FA881038A-EA63-4FA6-8F76-3A42FD3214F0_zpsi1wj5d6i.jpg&hash=a3dc4aaccc05b2e0103e0a6a6ff3fb36c2744413) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/nataliespictures1/media/A881038A-EA63-4FA6-8F76-3A42FD3214F0_zpsi1wj5d6i.jpg.html)
Feel free to critique.
i think your critique of your self is going to harsher then mine, but here we go.
I think that you have some pretty sharp features, but i have actually seen some cis women that look like you. So nothing outside of passable. With your presentation i don't think anyone would label you as a he. Based on the pic i think you pass!
That being said i think ffs would definitely help, but i don't think it is a need, in order for you to pass.
How I look when at work :o
https://www.dropbox.com/s/alvzx5ay2o1m1qc/IMAG0707.jpg?dl=0
Do I pass at work ?
Quote from: Isabelle on November 16, 2014, 10:48:21 PM
My last post vanished in the old thread.
I feel I need chin and nose reduction to pass..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh619%2Fnataliespictures1%2FA881038A-EA63-4FA6-8F76-3A42FD3214F0_zpsi1wj5d6i.jpg&hash=a3dc4aaccc05b2e0103e0a6a6ff3fb36c2744413) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/nataliespictures1/media/A881038A-EA63-4FA6-8F76-3A42FD3214F0_zpsi1wj5d6i.jpg.html)
Feel free to critique.
You are passing right now 101% , imo you don't need chin or nose work to pass.
Quote from: SaiyaDarkfire on November 17, 2014, 06:36:07 AM
How I look when at work :o
https://www.dropbox.com/s/alvzx5ay2o1m1qc/IMAG0707.jpg?dl=0
Do I pass at work ?
In a word, yes! :)
Quote from: lemons on November 17, 2014, 11:16:21 AM
I feel like my head size clocks me as male more than anything else.
I never see women with my my sized noggin...only slightly smaller and it makes me feel huge and self conscious. The rest of me seems to be ok...I'm wondering if forehead/brow and jaw countouring FFS would help bring make massive head into a normal female range for my body. (since I want those procedures done anyhow)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrB2PjGcl.jpg&hash=88a47efb1a0478d7113a3a26f0fc670c7d75c5cb)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgIMaWvVl.jpg&hash=7fa8bc56107d7cb65f666be9f3df1a1014899106) Especially from the side it looks massive.
Personally, I think your head size is not large if you ignore the hair, it shows a bit of volume. If you like that hairstyle, it might help to grow the hairs a bit longer and then see if you can work on reducing the volume a bit. If you want longer hair, grow it longer and maybe texture it or thin it out a bit?
Quote from: lemons on November 17, 2014, 11:16:21 AM
I feel like my head size clocks me as male more than anything else.
I never see women with my my sized noggin...only slightly smaller and it makes me feel huge and self conscious. The rest of me seems to be ok...I'm wondering if forehead/brow and jaw countouring FFS would help bring make massive head into a normal female range for my body. (since I want those procedures done anyhow)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrB2PjGcl.jpg&hash=88a47efb1a0478d7113a3a26f0fc670c7d75c5cb)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgIMaWvVl.jpg&hash=7fa8bc56107d7cb65f666be9f3df1a1014899106) Especially from the side it looks massive.
I agree longer hair would help. Right now it just looks like you have a lot of volume, ie: a very thick head of hair, and it being that short might be the problem. Not all women look good with short hairstyles. I know I'm one of them, but my problem is the opposite of yours as my noggin is too small plus I lack the hair volume you have(lucky girl!), which makes my head look disproportionally small when I wear a pixie cut or other shorter hairstyle.
If I were you I'd grow your hair out a little and play around with different hairstyles until you find one you like and that suits you. I would keep the bang's tho. Bangs covering the forehead always make one's face appear smaller which is why I can't wait until my bangs are long enough to stay parted to one side so as to make my face appear bigger, lol!
Actually Lemons I think your quite pretty. I do think longer hair would look great on you, but I dunno your personal situation or if your able to grow your hair out yet. I also know too that we are our own worse critics as we nit pick at every little flaw and imperfection we're aware we have. We don't see ourselves as others see up and from what I understand it takes a few years if we're even able, to see ourselves as others see us.
I wish you my very best with whatever improvements you desire to try. Personally as I said I think your quite pretty as is tho, but that's just me, and we each have to do what makes us feel better about ourselves. :)
Ally :icon_flower:
Quote from: lemons on November 17, 2014, 11:16:21 AM
I feel like my head size clocks me as male more than anything else.
I never see women with my my sized noggin...only slightly smaller and it makes me feel huge and self conscious. The rest of me seems to be ok...I'm wondering if forehead/brow and jaw countouring FFS would help bring make massive head into a normal female range for my body. (since I want those procedures done anyhow)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrB2PjGcl.jpg&hash=88a47efb1a0478d7113a3a26f0fc670c7d75c5cb)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgIMaWvVl.jpg&hash=7fa8bc56107d7cb65f666be9f3df1a1014899106) Especially from the side it looks massive.
if I were to see you on the street, I would not for a second peg you as male.
I like your hair! it really cute
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on November 17, 2014, 02:08:09 AM
Hard to tell without a profile, but from this shot you are progressing well! :)
Ok here's a couple more...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2Faelm4n.jpg&hash=e5eeaa3784c1a3bef445e6b397d08acd01e13f6a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F2zi0xw7.jpg&hash=f7ead33aea7f96b4dbdec43794da6241cf0b9c0c)
Quote from: Mickie on November 17, 2014, 05:38:05 PM
if I were to see you on the street, I would not for a second peg you as male.
People seem to all the time.
Quote from: lemons on November 17, 2014, 08:29:20 PM
People seem to all the time.
well maybe it's just the particular pics, but I once dated a girl that looks like you in the pic :P
Quote from: lemons on November 17, 2014, 11:16:21 AM
I feel like my head size clocks me as male more than anything else.
Not really. Many women have proportionally larger heads-- Vanna White for instance. Every women has body issues she has to manage and head size is certainly manageable-- though I don't see yours as looking all that large to me. Careful clothing choices and hairstyles can help a lot with this.
I think you have a very cute face and a very feminine profile. You'll have no trouble with this stuff. I'd love to see your hair longer, too, though.
Quote from: Hanazono on November 17, 2014, 09:47:32 PM
you have a great body
I think you will look even better if you introduce some volume in your hair to set off the relative length of your face (I don't mean this offensively)
It's ok, I know what you mean. What's the best way to create volume?
Quote from: kaye on November 17, 2014, 09:59:34 PM
It's ok, I know what you mean. What's the best way to create volume?
Flip your hair over, like, bend forward so your hair hangs down. Put some wax/gel/whatever the word is in your hands and rub it trough your hair, then flip it back. There, volume :D! Then style it a little better (with your hands) and keep it in place with hairspray :p.
Otherwise, sleep with braids in and take them out in the morning, or buy volume products.
Quote from: lemons on November 17, 2014, 08:29:20 PM
People seem to all the time.
How tall are you? How narrow minded it may seem.. people on the streets are. The way you look I neither would see you as a male but if you were just as tall as me, then I would. Then the hair would be the reason together with the being tall to assume you are a guy, if I didn't knew you.
I am thinking if getting rid of my wig. I am in the process of growing my hair. Do you think it's fine for me to lose the wig...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1290.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb531%2Fssnehagupta23%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FIMG_20141117_165920_1416323449435_zpsdudt5cac.jpg&hash=7d09882ece0a6c609d4fbcb2bb1a156a407bf1e3) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/ssnehagupta23/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141117_165920_1416323449435_zpsdudt5cac.jpg.html)
Quote from: Illuminess on November 17, 2014, 12:56:58 AMTomorrow afternoon, I go to the clinic for my endo referral. Check out what they have on their New Patient form:
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That is how
every intake form should be.
(You look great, Illuminess, BTW!)
Quote from: ssneha23 on November 18, 2014, 09:46:18 AM
I am thinking if getting rid of my wig. I am in the process of growing my hair. Do you think it's fine for me to lose the wig...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1290.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb531%2Fssnehagupta23%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FIMG_20141117_165920_1416323449435_zpsdudt5cac.jpg&hash=7d09882ece0a6c609d4fbcb2bb1a156a407bf1e3) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/ssnehagupta23/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141117_165920_1416323449435_zpsdudt5cac.jpg.html)
I think you can hun. You look all girl to me. Of course it is up to you tho. A lot of women wear their hair the way your natural hair is styled. Get some nice dangler earrings and your good to go!
Ally :icon_flower:
Quote from: ssneha23 on November 18, 2014, 09:46:18 AM
I am thinking if getting rid of my wig. I am in the process of growing my hair. Do you think it's fine for me to lose the wig...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1290.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb531%2Fssnehagupta23%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FIMG_20141117_165920_1416323449435_zpsdudt5cac.jpg&hash=7d09882ece0a6c609d4fbcb2bb1a156a407bf1e3) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/ssnehagupta23/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141117_165920_1416323449435_zpsdudt5cac.jpg.html)
Quote from: Allyda on November 18, 2014, 07:41:20 PM
I think you can hun. You look all girl to me. Of course it is up to you tho. A lot of women wear their hair the way your natural hair is styled. Get some nice dangler earrings and your good to go!
Ally :icon_flower:
I second what Ally said completely!
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 18, 2014, 07:56:16 PM
I second what Ally said completely!
Thank you Ally and Amber that really helped my confidence..
Quote from: ssneha23 on November 18, 2014, 08:16:41 PM
Thank you Ally and Amber that really helped my confidence..
the dangler earings would look really good with that style.
Quote from: ssneha23 on November 18, 2014, 09:46:18 AM
I am thinking if getting rid of my wig. I am in the process of growing my hair. Do you think it's fine for me to lose the wig...
I think you look great either way, and yup, it's time to get a nice earring collection going :icon_chick:
Hugs
hey, I know it is my first post here, but i just wanted to see what some of you think... The first picture is with me dressed up a little, and the second is after i rolled out of bed, almost litterally, lol. Anyways, i started HRT in April of 2014, and i started full time at school this fall (I am at college) but got gendered as a guy too many times and panicked... so I am kinda dropping out for now... lol...
EDIT: I forgot to add that the pictures were taken around 1-2 months ago respectively... my hair is a bit longer, so i am planning on getting it cut into a long pixie, with rainbow dye :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpWPQNf1.png&hash=3fa4e4276decb4a00122e1317c29a71bab5df71f)
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I'm no pro but I think your adorable
Quote from: Kirey on November 18, 2014, 06:20:25 AM
How tall are you? How narrow minded it may seem.. people on the streets are. The way you look I neither would see you as a male but if you were just as tall as me, then I would. Then the hair would be the reason together with the being tall to assume you are a guy, if I didn't knew you.
So I've dressed like that at work and been read as female maybe like...5-30% of the time in the past few months to a year. Outside of work I have no idea what to wear to keep me warm and be seen as female because everything warm looks super bulky on me and makes my head look huge and I always get gendered as male 100% of the time because of it. I'm exactly 6 feet btw.
Quote from: lemons on November 19, 2014, 12:41:35 PM
So I've dressed like that at work and been read as female maybe like...5-30% of the time in the past few months to a year. Outside of work I have no idea what to wear to keep me warm and be seen as female because everything warm looks super bulky on me and makes my head look huge and I always get gendered as male 100% of the time because of it. I'm exactly 6 feet btw.
6 ft is pretty tall... I am there as well. there are actually a lot of women that height. most of my ex's were the same height as me.
If you feel bulky maybe lose some weight. I am not saying you are fat, but most tall women that look uber feminine are pretty skinny. I really dont like to tell people to lose weight because its rude so im sorry if i offended you. unfortunately, thats the only way that i can help you. You look good in pictures, but it is easier to pass in a photograph then in real life.
Just keep your head up even though you arent a 100% pass doesnt mean you arent beautiful. You chose a less feminine presentation despite the fact that it would be harder to "pass", and you rock it. So kudos to you for staying true to yourself and not conforming to how society paints the image of what a women should be
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 19, 2014, 04:22:40 PM
6 ft is pretty tall... I am there as well. there are actually a lot of women that height. most of my ex's were the same height as me.
If you feel bulky maybe lose some weight. I am not saying you are fat, but most tall women that look uber feminine are pretty skinny. I really dont like to tell people to lose weight because its rude so im sorry if i offended you. unfortunately, thats the only way that i can help you. You look good in pictures, but it is easier to pass in a photograph then in real life.
Just keep your head up even though you arent a 100% pass doesnt mean you arent beautiful. You chose a less feminine presentation despite the fact that it would be harder to "pass", and you rock it. So kudos to you for staying true to yourself and not conforming to how society paints the image of what a women should be
I'm already pretty thin, I mean, this is my body in just underwear:
*** pic removed at request of member ***I lost a bunch of weight, not sur how much more I could lose but I'm about 160 lbs now.
Quote from: lemons on November 19, 2014, 10:26:56 PM
I'm already pretty thin, I mean, this is my body in just underwear:
*** pic removed at request of member ***
I lost a bunch of weight, not sur how much more I could lose but I'm about 160 lbs now.
cute! I dont think I could ever get the courage to post a picture of me in my underwear, but you look very feminine! I would just think you were cis if I met you! If I can ask, how did you lose all that weight?
Quote from: ostlerdev on November 19, 2014, 11:54:38 PM
cute! I dont think I could ever get the courage to post a picture of me in my underwear, but you look very feminine! I would just think you were cis if I met you! If I can ask, how did you lose all that weight?
I got horribly depressed about my body (ironically) lost my appetite and in doing so dropped about 15-20 lbs.
I do not recommend this.
Also my body is not as girly as it seems in reality, I still look bulky in most women's tops. Wide chest and square shoulders and all, along with a massive square male sized head that never falls into female ranges.
Quote from: lemons on November 20, 2014, 12:20:28 AM
I got horribly depressed about my body (ironically) lost my appetite and in doing so dropped about 15-20 lbs.
I do not recommend this.
Also my body is not as girly as it seems in reality, I still look bulky in most women's tops. Wide chest and square shoulders and all, along with a massive square male sized head that never falls into female ranges.
I weigh around 180 right now, but used to weigh around 280, but yeah, around the same thing for me, just lack of appetite.
Anyways, I think it is a mix of finding the right clothes and just confidence honestly. Are you wearing tight fitting clothing? Clothes that show your chest or like a guys T-Shirt? Because i have found that it matters a decent amount.
@Lemons;
This is just a suggestion, but you might try different pants/shorts that don't ride so low on your hips. Better yet try a few skirts just make sure they flare out annd aren't the hip hugging kind. Wearing your pants/shorts/skirts a lil higher above your hips will better accent your body and make you look more feminine. Remember, as girls our waist's are higher now, and IMHO this will improve your look 100%. As for tops, make sure they're form fitting. I dunno how cold it is right now where you live, but you might try sleeveless tops that hug your body a little with a V cut neck. You can cover up with a light feminine jacket or cardigan if it's cold outside, which you can remove inside. You already look like you have narrow shoulders, but this type of look will preserve their narrowness and coupled with the bottoms I mentioned should get you gendered correctly in a heartbeat. You already have a nice feminine body shape, you just need to show it off girl!
I hope it helps.
Best wishes!
Ally :icon_flower:
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OK... would I? If at a pool :laugh: Hope I got the picture sizing OK... :-\
Sorry pic taken today... was in poolside but decided to stand out of direct sun... So hot.... 39C +
(Not been very good at doing reflections in mirror, bit cack handed :'( )
L Katy
Quote from: katrinaw on November 20, 2014, 04:42:56 AM
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OK... would I? If at a pool :laugh: Hope I got the picture sizing OK... :-\
Sorry pic taken today... was in poolside but decided to stand out of direct sun... So hot.... 39C +
(Not been very good at doing reflections in mirror, bit cack handed :'( )
L Katy
Love the happy look ^^!
Thanks Kirey, That's how good I feel... Despite the heat LoL
L Katy
Quote from: lemons on November 19, 2014, 10:26:56 PM
I'm already pretty thin, I mean, this is my body in just underwear:
I lost a bunch of weight, not sur how much more I could lose but I'm about 160 lbs now.
yea you are right you do not need to loose weight.
You pull off the underwear look pretty well ;) :P
When you go shopping ask somebody that works there if they have any ideas about what clothes will help you look less bulky... I would love to be able to give you advice but im not qualified since I am in the same boat. only my side is filled with water.
btw your shoulders really aren't that broad.
Haven't posted in one of these topics in a while, but as usual been doubting myself alot lately, what does everyone/anyone think?
Took this pic yesterday:
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Took this one around Halloween:
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You look like a girl to me.
Hi Seras make that "fourthed"... Ahem 4
Katy
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 20, 2014, 10:30:45 PM
yea you are right you do not need to loose weight.
You pull off the underwear look pretty well ;) :P
When you go shopping ask somebody that works there if they have any ideas about what clothes will help you look less bulky... I would love to be able to give you advice but im not qualified since I am in the same boat. only my side is filled with water.
btw your shoulders really aren't that broad.
They aren't super broad, just wide in some clothes.
It's my head that sticks out the worst.
Quote from: lemons on November 21, 2014, 07:31:24 PM
They aren't super broad, just wide in some clothes.
It's my head that sticks out the worst.
I hear you there. with some clothes my shoulders are so much more feminine. I really have to be careful about what I wear otherwise when I see myself in the mirror I freak out.
I cant wear a dress because if I look In the mirror I see a man wearing a dress and I feel ugly...
anyways maybe try getting a scarf. I feel like a cute infinity scarf would look really good on you, and it would be very feminizing. I noticed some tops I couldn't wear because my shoulders looked fine with a scarf on
profile pic is most recent
Before bed no makeup
do i pass?
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First picture to give me 98% female on Pictriev. Go figure, I'm not seeing it. It also told me I look fifteen.
Yea well I won't lie Pictriev is full of it, the other day it said I look like Michael Douglas :laugh: . It says I am twice my age whereas the other day I went for a takeaway and I got asked how I was doing since it was school holiday and if I was up to much.. So I do not put much stock in it. Meanwhile the other face recognition site, ReKognition, says I am beautiful and female so ya.
But ofc that doesn't mean you don't look cute. You do look proper young to me. You look significantly younger than my 18 year old little brother and he is kinda baby faced for an 18 year old. I think you look kinda girly too. Very much young and androgynous in my eyes.
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@ Alysin hard to tell it is so small. With a squint though I say you are close? I expect with makeup and done up to look nice you would be quite pretty.
Quote from: Seras on November 23, 2014, 05:30:15 AM
@ Amber hard to tell it is so small. With a squint though I say you are close? I expect with makeup and done up to look nice you would be quite pretty.
thanks I wasn't asking to see if I pass though....
Whups, Alysin*
Your names are right next to each other in post history :D
Quote from: Seras on November 23, 2014, 06:38:26 AM
Whups, Alysin*
Your names are right next to each other in post history :D
lol I assumed that's what you meant.
hehe id enlarge it i just dont know how to post big pictures : x
you can put it in your post by clicking icon underneath the bold sign. it will look some thing like this img][/img. I deleted the two outside ones of these[] so you could see what I am saying then you just copy and paste the image to where I have it blanked img]_______[/img].... Does this make sense?
Seras, stephaniec, amber roskamp and katrinaw: Thank you, just wish I could see it myself.
Hey all!
I've been AWOL from the forums for a while now, but today marked 12 months since I started transitioning! So I thought I would put this little before/after pic for old times sake and see how you all think I'm doing so far ^^
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/10749967_875288859171960_968577543587096204_o.jpg)
I still have a ways to go, and I still fail entirely at seeing any female qualities in the mirror/pics...but hey, one year isn't that long in the grand scheme of things, so hopefully the HRT can continue to work it's magic over the coming years.
Thoughts/opinions?
Quote from: ssneha23 on November 18, 2014, 09:46:18 AM
I am thinking if getting rid of my wig. I am in the process of growing my hair. Do you think it's fine for me to lose the wig...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1290.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb531%2Fssnehagupta23%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FIMG_20141117_165920_1416323449435_zpsdudt5cac.jpg&hash=7d09882ece0a6c609d4fbcb2bb1a156a407bf1e3) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/ssnehagupta23/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141117_165920_1416323449435_zpsdudt5cac.jpg.html)
You actually look quite pretty. Short hair is nice depending on how you style it. You have no problems here. I don't plan on using a wig. I know lots of women with short hair and they rock it. I plan to until it grows out.
Quote from: Skeptoid on November 23, 2014, 02:07:00 AM
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First picture to give me 98% female on Pictriev. Go figure, I'm not seeing it. It also told me I look fifteen.
I can see how they came to that conclusion.
My avatar is also 93% F on pictriev. No makeup. I actually went to church looking like that...
Quote from: Danniella on November 23, 2014, 07:20:30 PM
Hey all!
I've been AWOL from the forums for a while now, but today marked 12 months since I started transitioning! So I thought I would put this little before/after pic for old times sake and see how you all think I'm doing so far ^^
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/10749967_875288859171960_968577543587096204_o.jpg)
I still have a ways to go, and I still fail entirely at seeing any female qualities in the mirror/pics...but hey, one year isn't that long in the grand scheme of things, so hopefully the HRT can continue to work it's magic over the coming years.
Thoughts/opinions?
I definitely see a female in this pic awesome changes
Quote from: Danniella on November 23, 2014, 07:20:30 PM
Hey all!
I've been AWOL from the forums for a while now, but today marked 12 months since I started transitioning! So I thought I would put this little before/after pic for old times sake and see how you all think I'm doing so far ^^
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/10749967_875288859171960_968577543587096204_o.jpg)
I still have a ways to go, and I still fail entirely at seeing any female qualities in the mirror/pics...but hey, one year isn't that long in the grand scheme of things, so hopefully the HRT can continue to work it's magic over the coming years.
Thoughts/opinions?
This is an incredible transformation. I'd be over the moon with this kind of progress. Love the new hair colour btw ;)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmPSv1hf.png&hash=4f72dbde21127dec6122458e22d891f13e969a63)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFtShU7z.png&hash=2d9f6f782c426a727d245358cf137cadd45b878e)
Okay, I typically upload pictures taken with my phone's camera due to the blurring caused by it being a bad camera. Here are some rather truly unflattering sharp photos taken with my good camera. (Heheheheh, though still in awful lighting!!)
My feeling is the one on the left is far better than the one on the right which looks way too masculine.
Oh, what they hey have another with totally different white balance and lighting.
Something incredible to me is the change to my beard shadow on the last photo after just under four months of hormones. I'm only four hours into my electrolysis so it's pretty awesome to be able to shave and barely see it.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbCy1cd2.jpg&hash=30adfd28b7b2f961ee30014bff77c891a28cece5)
Danniella, that's a great hair color for you!
Quote from: Skeptoid on November 23, 2014, 11:56:13 PM
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Okay, I typically upload pictures taken with my phone's camera due to the blurring caused by it being a bad camera. Here are some rather truly unflattering sharp photos taken with my good camera. (Heheheheh, though still in awful lighting!!)
My feeling is the one on the left is far better than the one on the right which looks way too masculine.
Oh, what they hey have another with totally different white balance and lighting.
Something incredible to me is the change to my beard shadow on the last photo after just under four months of hormones. I'm only four hours into my electrolysis so it's pretty awesome to be able to shave and barely see it.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbCy1cd2.jpg&hash=30adfd28b7b2f961ee30014bff77c891a28cece5)
Danniella, that's a great hair color for you!
I notice a insecurity with your posts, and I believe that you think you are not pass-able?
It is understandable why you think that. You got masculine traits and when you look straight at the camera you look pretty.. firm? Dominant? Not sure what to call it. That is probably why the left picture looks better because you look more relaxed on it.
Anyhow! Seeing masculine traits is for a transgender like still seeing the old you. Like seeing a guy. But the most beautiful boys have feminine traits and the most beautiful girls have masculine traits. But no matter from what angle I don't see anything other than a gorgeous girl on your pictures and I hope I look that pretty one day o.o.
Quote from: Skeptoid on November 23, 2014, 11:56:13 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmPSv1hf.png&hash=4f72dbde21127dec6122458e22d891f13e969a63)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFtShU7z.png&hash=2d9f6f782c426a727d245358cf137cadd45b878e)
Okay, I typically upload pictures taken with my phone's camera due to the blurring caused by it being a bad camera. Here are some rather truly unflattering sharp photos taken with my good camera. (Heheheheh, though still in awful lighting!!)
My feeling is the one on the left is far better than the one on the right which looks way too masculine.
Oh, what they hey have another with totally different white balance and lighting.
Something incredible to me is the change to my beard shadow on the last photo after just under four months of hormones. I'm only four hours into my electrolysis so it's pretty awesome to be able to shave and barely see it.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbCy1cd2.jpg&hash=30adfd28b7b2f961ee30014bff77c891a28cece5)
Danniella, that's a great hair color for you!
You are very very pretty. though you do have a bony face. It looks like you are thin. Maybe gain some weight, putting on a couple pounds could soften up you face, and help with your confidence. I am 6'0 and i weigh 140 so i plan on gaining weight a few months away form now once i see how hrt is working.
I would also like to say you have many beautiful feminine features, and you look aamazing for only being on hormones for 4 Months
You gotta change your name from Skeptoid to something else cause you aint allowed to be skepitcal on your looks anymore.
I can see what you are saying with left versus right but the right picture is still beautiful. I am not blowing smoke up your <you know what> either. if I did not think such a thing I would not say it.
Could I ever hope to pass?
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Quote from: yuui on November 24, 2014, 05:49:37 PM
Could I ever hope to pass?
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https://rekognition.com/index.php/demo/face sees 5 of these faces as female, only the bottom center one came in as male.
yes
Quote from: yuui on November 24, 2014, 05:49:37 PM
Could I ever hope to pass?
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Imo you are there! besides for that little bit of shadow I see in the pics with out makeup. Your body shape is extremely feminine as you're shoulders and hips are the same width. you look kinda tall but I have seen women who are taller. Based on your appearance you pass. if you are not passing publicly I would say it would be reasons other then how you look.
Im not gonna lie I would be ecsatic if my hips looked as good as yours :P
Quote from: Jade_404 on November 24, 2014, 06:02:42 PM
https://rekognition.com/index.php/demo/face sees 5 of these faces as female, only the bottom center one came in as male.
Just FYI I have put a picture of me where I have a beard in there and it gendered female...
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You look good Yuui. The last two look kinda andro though, partly cause no smile I expect, partly cause bad skin. Every other pic looks great. The smiles make your cheeks go all cute and stuff which makes you look better :P
Within the realm of purely lookin great though. Maybe do something nicer with your fringe? I mean it is ok but ya know, I think you can get a more flattering style.
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 24, 2014, 06:13:03 PM
Imo you are there! besides for that little bit of shadow I see in the pics with out makeup. Your body shape is extremely feminine as you're shoulders and hips are the same width. you look kinda tall but I have seen women who are taller. Based on your appearance you pass. if you are not passing publicly I would say it would be reasons other then how you look.
Im not gonna lie I would be ecsatic if my hips looked as good as yours :P
Yeah I'm quite tall, about 185 cm (6 feet 0.8 inches) :-\
Quote from: Seras on November 24, 2014, 06:26:15 PM
Just FYI I have put a picture of me where I have a beard in there and it gendered female...
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You look good Yuui. The last two look kinda andro though, partly cause no smile I expect, partly cause bad skin. Every other pic looks great. The smiles make your cheeks go all cute and stuff which makes you look better :P
Within the realm of purely lookin great though. Maybe do something nicer with your fringe? I mean it is ok but ya know, I think you can get a more flattering style.
I have thought about getting bangs or something like that but I'm far to self conscious about if it would look weird and what others would think about me having such a hairstyle.
Does HRT (if it ever comes to that) have any effect on lips/chin?
Dunno. My lips are more visible now I think, but that might just be due to my general change in complexion and not the lips changing at all, I have no idea. I do not think your chin will change much but don't worry about it! It is fine. Really.
And yea, I am hesitant on getting an awesome haircut too. Pretty much for the same reasons, I know I will some time though. Just gotta go to the haidresser a few more times and get to know her more then get her to gimme opinions on a good style.
Also, just to get this straight, you are not on HRT?
PS 6ft is model height like me, congrats :P
Quote from: Seras on November 24, 2014, 07:09:58 PM
Dunno. My lips are more visible now I think, but that might just be due to my general change in complexion and not the lips changing at all, I have no idea. I do not think your chin will change much but don't worry about it! It is fine. Really.
And yea, I am hesitant on getting an awesome haircut too. Pretty much for the same reasons, I know I will some time though. Just gotta go to the haidresser a few more times and get to know her more then get her to gimme opinions on a good style.
Also, just to get this straight, you are not on HRT?
PS 6ft is model height like me, congrats :P
I really dislike my chin :/
Asking a haridresser about feminine hairstyles is not something my nerves could handle and no I'm not on HRT.
Quote from: yuui on November 24, 2014, 06:46:30 PM
Yeah I'm quite tall, about 185 cm (6 feet 0.8 inches) :-\
That's not to bad I am like the same height as you. But you look good!
I would recommend looking around for an lgbt friendly hair stylist. I found one in my area and it is a really small city! so just ask other people with in the queer community. I learned a lot from my stylist. She really just trimmed my hair some and then showed me a couple ways of styling it. The whole time she was very friendly.
Trust me a blow dryer and a round brush can go a really long ways.
Quote from: yuui on November 24, 2014, 05:49:37 PM
Could I ever hope to pass?
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Is that a serious question? :eusa_doh: Uh, YEAH!!! :)
Quote from: Seras on November 24, 2014, 06:26:15 PM
Just FYI I have put a picture of me where I have a beard in there and it gendered female...
A female can't have a beard? Dammit I better shave... :o
lol
But yeah, that program will still gender me female when I have face hair. However it genders my brother Male EVERY time face hair or not. I bet if we put fake beards on cis girls it would still see them as female. It is using measurements of cheeks and eyes and mouth distance and stuff to determine. It is like the glasses/sunglasses thing. Sometimes if the picture is dark it can think eye makeup is glasses.
Love,
Jade
:-*
Are you referring to pictriev or rekognition? I assume the latter since you mentioned glasses?
Quote from: Skeptoid on November 25, 2014, 12:09:58 AM
Are you referring to pictriev or rekognition? I assume the latter since you mentioned glasses?
Hi All,
DISCLAIMER: I do not work for either Pictriev or Rokog, I only researched them for use in implementation of computer vision recognition systems for companies I work for. Both have privacy pages that have an agreement you "sign" into by uploading images, you should read those.
http://www.pictriev.com
https://rekognition.com/index.php/demo/face
Pictriev is a gimmick or toy, comparing you to celebs and Rekog uses actual openCV and algorithms that government, commercial and private agencies use for tracking of humans. Rekog has a SDK and you can embed it in your own code to build face recognition into your own applications. You have access to a bunch of statistics about the image, many of which have a decent accuracy rate. Many companies use it to track shoppers, emotional reaction to ads or displays, employee tracking, facial security login areas and a bunch of advanced stuff that would probably make you feel sick. The government uses it in terrorist tracking, airport security, street cam tracking, and a bunch of advanced stuff that again would make you sick. I read someplace about movie theaters using the emotional tracking of the faces in the crowd to help directors determine how the sequels should be written in order to keep an audience captivated in a planned series.
Beards cause problems for
ALL face rec systems even the ones deployed by our governments / military . You can search many articles on that in the news. This makes terrorist hunting harder.
Note: Computers can be tricked. Computers don't care what gender or race you are or if you are happy they only report what they determine from visual analysis. If a computer thinks you look male or female that DOES NOT mean that a human would determine the same results. So never just rely on what a face recognition system says, get human input.
Their are some makeup tricks you can do where these systems, even the advanced ones will not even recognize you as a face and therefore not track you. Look it up in the news they talked about it a bit last year. Its fun.
Pictriev sometimes will see me as 11 year old male that is a cross between Ozzy Osbourne and Emma Watson. I put in celeb picts and even those are not accurate. I even uploaded the same pictures at different times and got very different results. The age result is very inaccurate consistently. When I upload a combined photo of faces the algorithm only finds 30% of the faces in the photo. The gender results are all over the map, even when uploading the exact photo as before I can get different results.
Rekog sees me as female most of the time. As do other high end computer vision recognition systems. The age rates me younger than my actual age by about 10 years. (thats nice). I have tested lots of photos of others and the Age on Rekog is pretty close. When I put in older pictures of me in my 20s many are rated male and the age is right on target. When uploading a combined photo of many faces Rekog sees most of the faces. Uploading the same image at a different time is 98% identical results. The gender results hardly ever differ when the same image is used.
Important Note, Rekog may be learning! I may have submitted enough pictures of myself that even on a day where I look bad (scruffy) rekog says I look female, it may be comparing me to its earlier results? / images of me.
I have been very interested and involved in computer vision systems since I was a kid in the 80s, we have advanced by leaps in just the past few years and in the future every physical space in the real world will be being analyzed within the cyber world in real time. Computers already predict traffic/crime patterns, track suspects, follow persons of interest on all our major streets and public transport systems. We are being bombarded by WiFi that can also be used like radar in order to track detail 3d images of inside our homes and businesses. Tons of people carry around a device that shows their exact location, the position of the device, sounds and images around it, etc. Eventually, if not already.. governments will have the computer capability to track all of this info on computers and zoom in realtime into a location and evaluate what is happening at that location, even in private areas. Computers could alert to potential problems. Sure call me paranoid, I don't care... I just know what computers and savvy tech people can do with lots of government contractor money.
Use Pictriev and Rekog at your own discretion and remember that its just a computer algorithm, a real humans input is always good.
Love,
Jade
Yuui... Yup, sure could, nice figure too :'(
L Katy
Danniella, Wow, in a year... really good
L Katy
Quote from: yuui on November 24, 2014, 05:49:37 PM
Could I ever hope to pass?
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Not on HRT and such looks.. lucky bast.. lucky you :D!
You look great ^^. We are almost as tall, gosh, don't try to lower it. You are 6.1ft now be proud on it D: Then again whenever I mention my height I always wish I was shorter, but when I see other tall ladies I am jealous. Makes sense! Anyhows I agree with Seras, I think you can do a lot more with your hair and I am not sure whyyy.. but your glasses make you lean more to androgynous? They are not (from what I see) a male version of glasses or something but, I .. I don't know.. maybe I am just not a fan of glasses and rather stay blind (I also need them myself =/).
But you look great no worries ^^.
Hi all...
Been resisting, apart from an early fling in this thread... but now, I must ask, as I came out to a close, fully transitioned MTF, friend on Monday... was good to open up at last, but also based on some advice I have decided I must ask the same question now. As I need to fulfil my desires, after some many years of trying to hide, I need to transition by end of next year, so I need key things visually to focus on. I also intend to seek professional voice training.
Please be frank in your comments...
1) Straight on Limited Eye and Lips makeup
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2) Straight on no makeup
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3) Side on no makeup
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4)Side angle on no makeup
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In no chronological order but all in last 8 months
FWIW, I see brow line, beard shadow, "Adam's apple"...
So sorry to fill up with 4 pic's
L Katy
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Quote from: Danielle Emmalee on November 25, 2014, 05:58:46 AM
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YUP
L Katy
Interestingly I tried Pictreiv...
Got varied results, some I thought looked more fem than others got male results, some I figured were more male got 90% or better, with just mascara and lippie I scored better than 90% female... yay amazing ::) Also the more defined the photo the more consistent was the fem % results... got some comfort in public passing from that... what I do notice is if I am not smiling my face looks a lot harder, maybe worried, but quite masculine...
L Katy
Hi Katy,
I think you look like a woman in all those photos. Like you said, more so when you are smiling! :)
Love,
Jade
:-*
Is there any chance for me to pass? Pre-hrt, no makeup.Also, I really hate my ugly man nose. :embarrassed:
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Quote from: yuui on November 24, 2014, 05:49:37 PM
Could I ever hope to pass?
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Hi yuui! You look pretty good actually, and have some nice curves.
The facial hair in the last pic gives you away a bit but that is easily taken care of.
Quote from: JohannaSwe on November 25, 2014, 08:34:01 AM
Is there any chance for me to pass? Pre-hrt, no makeup.Also, I really hate my ugly man nose. :embarrassed:
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There is a great chance that you could pass. You are young and you have good features. I think hormones will work great for you!
Quote from: yuui on November 24, 2014, 05:49:37 PM
Could I ever hope to pass?
Yuui, you more than pass, you are stunning. I actually had to stop for a doubletake because that first picture looks identical to a good cis college friend of mine when she was younger.
I do suggest you ditch those glasses though. Go with contacts/no glasses...or if you are like me and can't do either, find some smaller, colored and "petite" frames instead of those. They are just too "strong" right now and change the focus on your face.
But otherwise, looks...you are there hun. You beyond pass there. Hopefully the attitude and mannerisms are just as femme. HRT don't even need to do much to you.
Just my 2 cents
Quote from: yuui on November 24, 2014, 05:49:37 PM
Could I ever hope to pass?
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You definitely pass now. Your body is really female and that speaks volumes considering you haven't started HRT.
Quote from: JohannaSwe on November 25, 2014, 08:34:01 AM
Is there any chance for me to pass? Pre-hrt, no makeup.Also, I really hate my ugly man nose. :embarrassed:
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I agree with Amber... You could certainly pass, based on piccies :)
L Katy
Thanks Jade :-* ... Makes me feel more confident in my transition forward
L Katy
Hi everyone, after my attack a few months ago by that group of males. I decide not to post pictures anymore. However today I weighted myself and in the last 8 months I have dropped 28kg (61.7lbs) with another 17kg (37lbs) to go. I am very bulky in size still due to depression and living on junk food, so I still retain a VERY ugly guy body with tons of fat and muscle everywhere. Although I figure if I can just keep dropping weight slowly with not eating junk food I will get there in another 4-5 months.
- I am now in my mid thirties
- Pre everything
- 93.4kg (205 lbs)
- I can not do eyebrows or anything yet as I work everyday in a male role
First what I looked like 6 months ago -this picture makes my heart stop and causes huge pain-, but I want to be realistic here, so here is 6 months ago.
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This is 28kg (61.7lbs) later in guy mode today, which is 99.99999% of the day as I work with violent males as a therapist right now so it could be dangerous!
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So be very honest and give advice.
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Quote from: yuui on November 24, 2014, 05:49:37 PM
Could I ever hope to pass?
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We have a similar body shape. Do you know if you have a 47, XXY karyotype?
Quote from: Illuminess on November 25, 2014, 08:39:38 PM
We have a similar body shape. Do you know if you have a 47, XXY karyotype?
I have no idea what that means!
Quote from: katrinaw on November 25, 2014, 05:08:03 PM
I agree with Amber... You could certainly pass, based on piccies :)
L Katy
Thank you both :) It really helps me get through the days!
Quote from: Sarah leah on November 25, 2014, 08:38:30 PM
Hi everyone, after my attack a few months ago by that group of males. I decide not to post pictures anymore. However today I weighted myself and in the last 8 months I have dropped 28kg (61.7lbs) with another 17kg (37lbs) to go. I am very bulky in size still due to depression and living on junk food, so I still retain a VERY ugly guy body with tons of fat and muscle everywhere. Although I figure if I can just keep dropping weight slowly with not eating junk food I will get there in another 4-5 months.
- I am now in my mid thirties
- Pre everything
- 93.4kg (205 lbs)
- I can not do eyebrows or anything yet as I work everyday in a male role
First what I looked like 6 months ago -this picture makes my heart stop and causes huge pain-, but I want to be realistic here, so here is 6 months ago.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fbzd39tcot%2F10464074_10202234555492362_2003458324488517126_n.jpg&hash=cbc7a36191d216c82789b8e99761f8c0d2c4aad4)
This is 28kg (61.7lbs) later in guy mode today, which is 99.99999% of the day as I work with violent males as a therapist right now so it could be dangerous!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fkq1hzi0px%2FSANY0243.jpg&hash=82a520944d98447d526a49edbf253b492d230bf5)
So be very honest and give advice.
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I don't even see any resemblances between the man in the first pics and the beautiful woman in latter ones :)
You look wonderful and definitely pass if you ask me! :)
Quote from: yuui on November 25, 2014, 08:54:55 PM
I have no idea what that means!
:P It means your chromosomes aren't 100% male (XY) or female (XX) resulting in feminine body shape, androgen insensitivity, gynecomastia (breast tissue swelling due to hormonal imbalance), and other things. There's no connection between that and gender identity since most XXY people aren't trans, but I think it's indicative of
something. The extreme case is called Klinefelter's Syndrome. Mild case is called "mosaic".
Here's me: WUTWUT (https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10413340_282795358598175_2335824080815484412_n.jpg?oh=246c8f53af317088252758b92b0927a2&oe=551F6874&__gda__=1423354572_7b728a23d38383a93ea48264aa4a5fc9) Sorry if it's dark. I only took it to show the hips.
Hi Sarah Leah,
I agree with JohannaSwe comments, certainly amazing looks across photos after first two.... really pretty :-*
So sad to hear about your past experiences... its a tough bigoted world for us... but things are changing, slowly in some places. Please take care...
FWIW I started shaping eyebrows a long, long time ago, mildly at first but gradually more aggressively, maybe a little to agressive right now... but I have never detected gazing or comments... however I have worked in predominantly male IT space, probably not as bad as Labouring etc...
I have also been on HRT for somewhere between 10 to 12 years... always hiding my changes, tight tee-shirts under not too tight, but shaped shirts...
Change for me has been very slow and long as I did not start HRT till very late forties.
But, this time (tried dozens of times before) I intend to fulfil my intended gender, my emotions and heart are driving too hard this time.
Stay strong and follow your heart :-*
Love Katy
Quote from: Sarah leah on November 25, 2014, 08:38:30 PM
Hi everyone, after my attack a few months ago by that group of males. I decide not to post pictures anymore. However today I weighted myself and in the last 8 months I have dropped 28kg (61.7lbs) with another 17kg (37lbs) to go. I am very bulky in size still due to depression and living on junk food, so I still retain a VERY ugly guy body with tons of fat and muscle everywhere. Although I figure if I can just keep dropping weight slowly with not eating junk food I will get there in another 4-5 months.
- I am now in my mid thirties
- Pre everything
- 93.4kg (205 lbs)
- I can not do eyebrows or anything yet as I work everyday in a male role
First what I looked like 6 months ago -this picture makes my heart stop and causes huge pain-, but I want to be realistic here, so here is 6 months ago.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fbzd39tcot%2F10464074_10202234555492362_2003458324488517126_n.jpg&hash=cbc7a36191d216c82789b8e99761f8c0d2c4aad4)
This is 28kg (61.7lbs) later in guy mode today, which is 99.99999% of the day as I work with violent males as a therapist right now so it could be dangerous!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fkq1hzi0px%2FSANY0243.jpg&hash=82a520944d98447d526a49edbf253b492d230bf5)
So be very honest and give advice.
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You looks 100% female to me i wish i would looks so good as you.
You guys were talking about body shape so here you go. This picture is from about a year before I started HRT so no boobies and I wasn't wearing a bra to fake them in this one.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWQBDYuq.jpg&hash=f05a534e3e84b838b3cf89a323d31d64d5482a8e)
Haha, of course my shape hasn't changed much since then even with the addition of super tiny boobies.
Quote from: Skeptoid on November 26, 2014, 02:01:58 PM
You guys were talking about body shape so here you go. This picture is from about a year before I started HRT so no boobies and I wasn't wearing a bra to fake them in this one.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWQBDYuq.jpg&hash=f05a534e3e84b838b3cf89a323d31d64d5482a8e)
Haha, of course my shape hasn't changed much since then even with the addition of super tiny boobies.
wow you you have a very feminine body shape. im jealous!!!
Also you are thin enough to try to gain weight to experiment and see if you like where the fat distributes. that way you could go from super tiny boobies to... well... tiny boobies!!! :P
Edit: i would also like to add that I am jealous one more time
Quote from: Skeptoid on November 26, 2014, 02:01:58 PM
You guys were talking about body shape so here you go. This picture is from about a year before I started HRT so no boobies and I wasn't wearing a bra to fake them in this one.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWQBDYuq.jpg&hash=f05a534e3e84b838b3cf89a323d31d64d5482a8e)
Haha, of course my shape hasn't changed much since then even with the addition of super tiny boobies.
Wow... What a figure, I am seriously envious :'(
Not sure I can say anymore... Stunning!
L Katy
Thank you guys, I appreciate the kind comments. I will keep pushing to lose more weight and fingers crossed get on HRT in the next 6 months. That first picture still makes me violently ill when I see it, even the second one which is what I look like currently without makeup makes me cringe. I am just hoping that weight loss will help me look more feminine before starting HRT.
Maybe your figure is a bit straightish but your head doesn't ring any kind of alarm bells to me. Your shoulders don't seem too wide either at least.
Hello everyone, I am kind of new here, but I have been lurking for a bit. I am starting my transition pretty shortly, and I have been playing with make up a bit. I know my body probably doesn't pass as of yet, but could anyone tell me how my face passes? Also I know my adams apple is huge so thats an issue and I could fix up my eye brows, but other than that I don't really know. If anyone could give me some advice if they see any blaring issues. Thanks!!
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Quote from: Hanazono on November 27, 2014, 04:20:54 AM
I hope what you're planning to do to your eyebrows is to even up thr symmetry.
you look ok. what Adams apple! can't see it.
on the other hand avoid polka dots. they're a difficult style to carry off
Sorry, my right eye brow is a little arched, they are actually pretty symmetrical! I just want to make them more arched because as you can see on my left eye brow they aren't very.. :P
Quote from: Cole 1994 on November 27, 2014, 12:03:21 AM
Hello everyone, I am kind of new here...
I think you look very good, Cole. I love your eye makeup. You're hair is cute, too. Personally, I don't worry so much about Adam's apples, although there are things you can do (besides surgery). Slow moving neck exercises and holding the neck straight and up can minimize it a lot, as can careful makeup. Other than that, there are the same tricks many women use who have neck issues. Wear hair such as to hide the neck from the side, wear high necked garments, and/or wear overall looks that draw attention away from the neck.
Welcome to Susan's, BTW.
Hi Cole, welcome :)
Looking at the picture you have posted looks good, can't see any hard lines on your face. I agree with Hanazono on eyebrows, would look really nice and feminine with some shape...
Did not notice the Adams Apple from the front.
I agree with Lyric, defocus attention from the neck... I certainly try too, and your hair looks nice... naturally wavy (wish I had my own hair :'( )
L Katy :-*
I don't know if I'm just really insecure or what but I feel like my jawline is really male. And I don't feel like I always pass just cause of my facial structure and body. Ugh. Sucks to feel like you're being upstaged by your Golden retriever in your pictures.
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Quote from: ᴏɴᴇ ʟɪғᴇ ᴛᴏ ʟɪᴠᴇ ☆ on November 27, 2014, 10:37:29 PM
I don't know if I'm just really insecure or what but I feel like my jawline is really male. And I don't feel like I always pass just cause of my facial structure and body. Ugh. Sucks to feel like you're being upstaged by your Golden retriever in your pictures.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2Fhtb3fm.jpg&hash=cb676598ceb3e874dead520c2b908ec2d31a65cd)
I think you are really cute. 100% girl! so imo there is absolutely no need to feel insecure.
Quote from: ᴏɴᴇ ʟɪғᴇ ᴛᴏ ʟɪᴠᴇ ☆ on November 27, 2014, 10:37:29 PM
I don't know if I'm just really insecure or what but I feel like my jawline is really male. And I don't feel like I always pass just cause of my facial structure and body. Ugh. Sucks to feel like you're being upstaged by your Golden retriever in your pictures.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2Fhtb3fm.jpg&hash=cb676598ceb3e874dead520c2b908ec2d31a65cd)
lol girl take a breather cause you're fish af & you know you are ok. Like, don't even play xD
I don't think she is transgender? If she is, well, good for her o.o. But I just doubt it =/.
Quote from: ᴏɴᴇ ʟɪғᴇ ᴛᴏ ʟɪᴠᴇ ☆ on November 27, 2014, 10:37:29 PM
I don't know if I'm just really insecure or what but I feel like my jawline is really male. And I don't feel like I always pass just cause of my facial structure and body. Ugh. Sucks to feel like you're being upstaged by your Golden retriever in your pictures.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2Fhtb3fm.jpg&hash=cb676598ceb3e874dead520c2b908ec2d31a65cd)
I do not think your jawline is male. If you indeed think so and your face is aging, then you may try Botox for your jawline.
barbie~~
Quote from: Kirey on November 28, 2014, 06:26:39 AM
I don't think she is transgender? If she is, well, good for her o.o. But I just doubt it =/.
Whoo boy, that's what I mean when I say "passing." When people literally don't believe you if you tell them you're trans. I want to achieeeeeeve.
That moment would make my life.
hehe almost would have been worth paying the 10 bucks :)
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Part of me feels like I'm at a good spot when it comes to passing, but then I feel like not really?
And then I tried out new clothes today and felt pretty good so I took a pic. What do y'all think? Not wearing any make up or anything in this one
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg911%2F6494%2FYWQA6o.jpg&hash=4c32fdecccf5b85e5c32d568912141fc6c05a5c4)
I feel like you are at a good spot too. Nice coat :)
Quote from: FairyHime on December 01, 2014, 04:32:42 AM
Part of me feels like I'm at a good spot when it comes to passing, but then I feel like not really?
And then I tried out new clothes today and felt pretty good so I took a pic. What do y'all think? Not wearing any make up or anything in this one
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg911%2F6494%2FYWQA6o.jpg&hash=4c32fdecccf5b85e5c32d568912141fc6c05a5c4)
nice
Quote from: FairyHime on December 01, 2014, 04:32:42 AM
Part of me feels like I'm at a good spot when it comes to passing, but then I feel like not really?
And then I tried out new clothes today and felt pretty good so I took a pic. What do y'all think? Not wearing any make up or anything in this one
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg911%2F6494%2FYWQA6o.jpg&hash=4c32fdecccf5b85e5c32d568912141fc6c05a5c4)
You are a typical woman. The pink camera accentuates you.
barbie~~
Quote from: FairyHime on December 01, 2014, 04:32:42 AM
Part of me feels like I'm at a good spot when it comes to passing, but then I feel like not really?
And then I tried out new clothes today and felt pretty good so I took a pic. What do y'all think? Not wearing any make up or anything in this one
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg911%2F6494%2FYWQA6o.jpg&hash=4c32fdecccf5b85e5c32d568912141fc6c05a5c4)
You actually look like a lot one of my X's from years ago, kinda tripped me out for a moment
Oh wow! Thanks everyone ^^
It was actually really inspiring to see so much support, kind of boosted my ego and I finally came out at work. Let the good times roll!
(And to respond to certain comments, I really am happy about the coat Seras, thank you!
And V M, I hope you mean ex-girlfriend :D)
Need me some HRT badly!
Could I pass without it? or should I wait till I am on it for some time?
(Click to make it larger)
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Yes I do need some sit-ups! shhhh
Love,
Jade
:-*
Quote from: Hanazono on December 03, 2014, 09:00:43 PM
stomach in chest out dear! you're looking ok.
the brow overhang while present , isn't overly obvious.
I think HRT will do wonders.
also, it's not my place to say but perhaps you would look more proportional with larger boobs for your frame.
Will work on my posture, which is terrible since I was a child.' Also I still have bloat from turkey day. haha
those are my own boobs in an A-cup, no HRT... hope the get bigger on HRT tho. Hate surgeries :( I would love them to be a size or 2 bigger.
My brow.. could be worse... will look into makeup techniques to soften it.
Thanks Hanazono.
I'm almost 5 months hrt. So not much really. But I've never posted onto a passing thread before, so why not? :]
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploadpie.com%2FfKkYt&hash=44820e8d128de987e88447cd70224aa15b9e706a)
Looking good TheBatwolf! Looking good!
Love,
Jade
:-*
Quote from: TheBatWolf on December 04, 2014, 03:01:29 AM
I'm almost 5 months hrt. So not much really. But I've never posted onto a passing thread before, so why not? :]
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploadpie.com%2FfKkYt&hash=44820e8d128de987e88447cd70224aa15b9e706a)
I think you pass! you are very pretty and have beautiful hair!
welcome to susans!
Quote from: TheBatWolf on December 04, 2014, 03:01:29 AM
I'm almost 5 months hrt. So not much really. But I've never posted onto a passing thread before, so why not? :]
You look great to me and ditto on the hair. Welcome to Susan's, Bat.
Quote from: TheBatWolf on December 04, 2014, 03:01:29 AM
I'm almost 5 months hrt. So not much really. But I've never posted onto a passing thread before, so why not? :]
So jealous of hair...
-grips your shoulders-
Tell me your secret!!! D:<
Quote from: TheBatWolf on December 04, 2014, 03:01:29 AM
I'm almost 5 months hrt. So not much really.
Just five months? Extraordinary results!
Heyyyyy Im rather new here and have not started HRT yet, but a little make up does wonders. Oh, I don't know how to post pictures in a comment either so you can just check out my profile pic <<<<<<< So what do you think?? Places for improvement??? I love brutal honesty!!! :D
-Iliana
This time here's me with my grandmother s2
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Almost three months full time so far =)
Cute picture ^^.
Looks good here. Nice to have family that supports you.
Vicky
Quote from: Natalia on December 04, 2014, 04:20:41 PM
This time here's me with my grandmother s2
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Almost three months full time so far =)
looking good
Quote from: Natalia on December 04, 2014, 04:20:41 PM
This time here's me with my grandmother s2
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Almost three months full time so far =)
Very passable :)
Quote from: Natalia on December 04, 2014, 04:20:41 PM
This time here's me with my grandmother s2
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Almost three months full time so far =)
Yes. It is a very fast progress. You look happy!
barbie~~
Quote from: Natalia on December 04, 2014, 04:20:41 PM
This time here's me with my grandmother s2
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Almost three months full time so far =)
you look very pretty and passable
Only a month into the hormones and just a little late-night messing around. The bra is stuffed with little forms and the only makeup is lipstick. The body hair hasn't been epilated in a week, so keep that in mind.
Okay, enough stalling.
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Please be constructive.
-Tegs
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on December 05, 2014, 02:01:43 AM
Only a month into the hormones and just a little late-night messing around. The bra is stuffed with little forms and the only makeup is lipstick. The body hair hasn't been epilated in a week, so keep that in mind.
Okay, enough stalling.
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Please be constructive.
-Tegs
You look like you have potential to pass, yes.
You've got this
Pull off the sexy vintage rock look flawlessly. Especially at such an early benchmark on hrt. You go girl!
Hey Tegan! You're looking good so far. I hope that everything is going well. ;)
1 round of Laser 10 months HRT and physical ass kicking at the gym. 5' 8" 138lbs. I still feel like i have guy written all over my face my body not so much.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi557.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss18%2FCameron_Rodriguez%2Fme40_zps9da5bb78.jpg&hash=7ffee5960d1946d21ebfa65a18e664013b082fda) (http://s557.photobucket.com/user/Cameron_Rodriguez/media/me40_zps9da5bb78.jpg.html)
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Ignore the bluetooth i was on the phone with my girlfriend lol
Quote from: MT22TG on December 07, 2014, 01:52:32 AM
1 round of Laser 10 months HRT and physical ass kicking at the gym. 5' 8" 138lbs. I still feel like i have guy written all over my face my body not so much.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi557.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss18%2FCameron_Rodriguez%2Fme40_zps9da5bb78.jpg&hash=7ffee5960d1946d21ebfa65a18e664013b082fda) (http://s557.photobucket.com/user/Cameron_Rodriguez/media/me40_zps9da5bb78.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi557.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss18%2FCameron_Rodriguez%2Fme4_zps180d26e9.jpg&hash=f54b02f7e4b84262fd84838d86f06612c9b81f01) (http://s557.photobucket.com/user/Cameron_Rodriguez/media/me4_zps180d26e9.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi557.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss18%2FCameron_Rodriguez%2FIMG_1609_zpsd8463e74.jpg&hash=44c54854cb40f764885115b641a882b2e9c7baf1) (http://s557.photobucket.com/user/Cameron_Rodriguez/media/IMG_1609_zpsd8463e74.jpg.html)
Ignore the bluetooth i was on the phone with my girlfriend lol
I don't see the guy in your face at all you look stunning... im not sure about the wig though.
Quote from: Natalia on December 04, 2014, 04:20:41 PM
This time here's me with my grandmother
Natalia, IIRC your grandmother has been your biggest supporter through your transition so far, and it's so good to see you and her both so happy and close. She looks like an amazing woman to have in your life, and I'm happy for you.
You look awesome too, by the way. Definitely super passable; I imagine the past three months have been some of the happiest of your life from the looks of things.
so this is my first profile picture under my new name on fb?
is it passable?
(https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10408901_750496428363432_3833756017018744754_n.jpg?oh=ceaf975c6854ed46893c2a1a35cb8b06&oe=551E3228)
Quote from: V M on November 16, 2014, 05:21:12 PM
Here you go 8)
I had a makeover and I think it came out kind of pretty. The question is, am I passable? :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1325.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu631%2Fmy_photo_album_pics%2Fface_zps88244882.jpg&hash=67ef2fa7c922c84a3762ba70a77b7f159871e11d)
Looks good to me Jo.
Vicky
MtF
Thank you very much...Yeah i need a new one with some good styling, but gotta work with what you have. I'm working really hard on my real hair but it only grows so fast. Trying to get it long enough for extensions so i can atleast ditch the whole wig thing. Really wanna just wake up with my hair finally long but alas it hasn't happened yet :( oh well ill keep wishing ;)
Calli
the hair will get there. and youll be so pretty cis women will be jealous...
Well gosh I don't know about that but thanks for the compliment and making my day Amber.
Calli
Thanks everyone for the replies ;)
Quote from: Brenda E on December 07, 2014, 07:18:40 AM
Natalia, IIRC your grandmother has been your biggest supporter through your transition so far, and it's so good to see you and her both so happy and close. She looks like an amazing woman to have in your life, and I'm happy for you.
You look awesome too, by the way. Definitely super passable; I imagine the past three months have been some of the happiest of your life from the looks of things.
Indeed I am much happier now ;D I am very thankfull of having the support of my family and my grandmother even seens to be enjoying the fact that now I am her granddaughter :)
And the unexpected is that indeed I think I am passable...three months with no incidents...no one called me "sir", people never stare at me at the streets, I can go to very crowded places and no one cares! This is amazing :D
Quote from: Jo-is-amazing on December 07, 2014, 07:19:09 AM
so this is my first profile picture under my new name on fb?
is it passable?
(https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10408901_750496428363432_3833756017018744754_n.jpg?oh=ceaf975c6854ed46893c2a1a35cb8b06&oe=551E3228)
That photo absolutely passes. Without any doubt. Enjoy your new FB presence
Quote from: Christine167 on December 06, 2014, 06:04:12 PM
Hey Tegan! You're looking good so far. I hope that everything is going well. ;)
Hi Christine,
It's been a while. How are you?
-Teg
Hey you are all looking fab!!! Here are a few of me pre-HRT:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOhfD1UT.jpg&hash=4443d0bc77c441a9c2b94b4b0d032eda64272cc9)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdzTb33U.jpg&hash=647c938ade874f28e9bbc1a98d7666faaf5fb23a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fgjmgaxr.jpg&hash=79103e7d9f61d5c51ba8f5c3ba76cda8718fac5d)
So what do you think?? Do I have a chance at passing now?? Thanks!!
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/114002322823619091808/albums/6090745568342075489/6090745574877308690?pid=6090745574877308690&oid=114002322823619091808&authkey=CL6y55iPgseN_wE (https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/114002322823619091808/albums/6090745568342075489/6090745574877308690?pid=6090745574877308690&oid=114002322823619091808&authkey=CL6y55iPgseN_wE)
(https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/yourphotos?pid=6020379567342611266&oid=114002322823619091808)
Well ladies, I'm having a bit of trouble figuring how to upload images, so if nothing shows on this post I will keep trying.
Try using photobucket, imgur or one of the other photo hosting sites, photobucket is pretty easy to use
Quote from: BrenB on December 09, 2014, 02:07:19 AM
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/114002322823619091808/albums/6090745568342075489/6090745574877308690?pid=6090745574877308690&oid=114002322823619091808&authkey=CL6y55iPgseN_wE (https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/114002322823619091808/albums/6090745568342075489/6090745574877308690?pid=6090745574877308690&oid=114002322823619091808&authkey=CL6y55iPgseN_wE)
(https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/yourphotos?pid=6020379567342611266&oid=114002322823619091808)
Well ladies, I'm having a bit of trouble figuring how to upload images, so if nothing shows on this post I will keep trying.
Well judging from your profile picture I def think you look fem and could pass.
Quote from: BrenB on December 09, 2014, 02:07:19 AM
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/114002322823619091808/albums/6090745568342075489/6090745574877308690?pid=6090745574877308690&oid=114002322823619091808&authkey=CL6y55iPgseN_wE (https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/114002322823619091808/albums/6090745568342075489/6090745574877308690?pid=6090745574877308690&oid=114002322823619091808&authkey=CL6y55iPgseN_wE)
(https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/yourphotos?pid=6020379567342611266&oid=114002322823619091808)
Well ladies, I'm having a bit of trouble figuring how to upload images, so if nothing shows on this post I will keep trying.
you look good, how long on HRT
Quote from: Hanazono on December 09, 2014, 10:15:51 AM
you have potential. you can work on facial hair removal to enhance your chances of passing
Yeah I agree 100% with the hair removal and that will be one of the first things that I do. IDK if I'll do laser or electrolysis though(don't know which is better) Also my chin, it looks a little wide and grow my own hair. Thanks for your honest input :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1376.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah28%2FAllesselina%2FPictureofme2_zps8b34aa95.png&hash=1a2c45a020aa3ca8984c3251da75729b07470bd8) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/Allesselina/media/Pictureofme2_zps8b34aa95.png.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1376.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah28%2FAllesselina%2FPictureofme3_zpsdd81d9c4.png&hash=b5e4326e453e691b91480cf031e6e0d9b00e7933) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/Allesselina/media/Pictureofme3_zpsdd81d9c4.png.html)
5 months hrt
Do I pass?
yes
Quote from: Alysinspace on December 09, 2014, 11:32:22 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1376.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah28%2FAllesselina%2FPictureofme2_zps8b34aa95.png&hash=1a2c45a020aa3ca8984c3251da75729b07470bd8) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/Allesselina/media/Pictureofme2_zps8b34aa95.png.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1376.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah28%2FAllesselina%2FPictureofme3_zpsdd81d9c4.png&hash=b5e4326e453e691b91480cf031e6e0d9b00e7933) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/Allesselina/media/Pictureofme3_zpsdd81d9c4.png.html)
5 months hrt
Do I pass?
I think you pass very well. And I think you pull off short hair very well.
Quote from: Alysinspace on December 09, 2014, 11:32:22 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1376.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah28%2FAllesselina%2FPictureofme2_zps8b34aa95.png&hash=1a2c45a020aa3ca8984c3251da75729b07470bd8) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/Allesselina/media/Pictureofme2_zps8b34aa95.png.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1376.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah28%2FAllesselina%2FPictureofme3_zpsdd81d9c4.png&hash=b5e4326e453e691b91480cf031e6e0d9b00e7933) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/Allesselina/media/Pictureofme3_zpsdd81d9c4.png.html)
5 months hrt
Do I pass?
Awwww you're so adorable!!! You're not gonna have any problem passing :) I can already see it. Btw, you totally look like Leigh Dorei. Look him up on youtube :)
i love all of you ive been so depressed with how i look lately : (
Thanks for the advice VM! so I posted some pics on photobicket. Here goes! Taken tonight for my Susan's Place girlfriends!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff337%2Fbrennamballow77%2FIMG_20141209_2234241_zpsbcf09245.jpg&hash=7736eabb6ade63103f887125f1a11228f115b5b0)
yay, it worked!!! I had a few false starts there but got it! here's a girls night out with my youngest (left) and friend (right)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff337%2Fbrennamballow77%2FPART_1418002029647_1207141756b_zps334fb0fd.jpg&hash=4743406fd54b026ee330bfd21f807db06183997d)
Quote from: stephaniec on December 09, 2014, 09:40:40 AM
you look good, how long on HRT
HRT since March 2012
2 rounds of FFS (due to finances), Dr Speigel - upper lip lift and cheek implants, Dr Leis - brow lift, brow bone contour, and scalp advance
both laser and electrolysis on face - laser first but electrolysis did it for me
next, SRS hopefully this spring or summer!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff337%2Fbrennamballow77%2FIMG_01681-Edited_zps78bc2293.jpg&hash=dddfa5aa6489cc9ecebfe43683fc5b0193104a46)
Quote from: BrenB on December 09, 2014, 10:31:27 PM
HRT since March 2012
2 rounds of FFS (due to finances), Dr Speigel - upper lip lift and cheek implants, Dr Leis - brow lift, brow bone contour, and scalp advance
both laser and electrolysis on face - laser first but electrolysis did it for me
next, SRS hopefully this spring or summer!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff337%2Fbrennamballow77%2FIMG_01681-Edited_zps78bc2293.jpg&hash=dddfa5aa6489cc9ecebfe43683fc5b0193104a46)
well, it shows
Oh, and one more thing ladies! There can be different paths to reach "passability". So often we only have limited resources, and have to pick and choose between different procedures. Maybe that's a good thing, helps us stay more natural looking. I chose to concentrate on my face, but perhaps I would have been just as passable or more if I spent the money on breast implants and voice surgery (my voice isn't too bad bud needs alot of work), or divided between body and face. I did like my face before any ffs, just on what the hormones did. I wish I had the photos from then on this computer, I will look for them. The attached photo is after my first ffs with Dr. Speigel. for the money I spent on my latter forehead contouring I could have had breast implants. The results, enhanced passability, could have been equal or greater to the path I chose. But I have no regrets and am glad I did what I did. (I was also in the earlier stages of growing out my hair when this was taken)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff337%2Fbrennamballow77%2F86510ee4-520c-405b-a73b-4f43e9fe010b_zps41ca140f.jpg&hash=afb2991eb83bb4b7befa27641daa1f5a9b7fad2d)
My sister-in-law has training as a beautician, and a couple of weeks ago she and my brother came over to have dinner and hang out. Before I knew it, we were in the bathroom, and she was doing my makeup. It was the first time that I have been dressed as myself in front of either of them. Resolution isn't the best, as these came from my phone, but I think the basic idea is here.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F6768171d7ed7259693c0b1a9b8ffb975.jpg&hash=9fc2a2de805d0b568252ebd9db1d39063aa1d68d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F37f98e3d7d43d002f15ed8328fda37ca.jpg&hash=cc84be4f077b53a0d553804c09dc39e2b4456763)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F959266e341c0d118f38daba6a7dc7005.jpg&hash=5636fdc1c9a0a98b26438797e916ea2347dbc184)
When I begin presenting, I'll most likely wear bangs to cover up the worry lines on my forehead. Besides that, any thoughts?
-Tegan
Quote from: Hanazono on December 11, 2014, 01:17:31 AM
you can try relaxation exercises to consciously focus on the worry lines (muscles) in your forehead, and you will look better. drop me a PM and I'll send you a link
Hana,
I've had them since I was a kid, so I doubt they're going anywhere. Still, I wouldn't say no to that link.
Thanks
I posted these pics in the "fabulous" thread, but I thought I'd be daring and see what others think in this particular thread.. I'm pre-hrt and pre-any hair removal things, but have been presenting as female whenever I'm in public.. I don't do any shaving on my face if I don't have to (like when I'm home) because it really takes a toll on my skin.. :'(
They may be too "flattering" to be a real gauge of my passibillity but here they are! :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Fmaraho.jpg&hash=c4c62a61c078db2eeb201cbbfd7dab255f3b55b2) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/maraho.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Fmara6.jpg&hash=8b3c4ee2e56e57aa7e4d1e976c38cc3340db4418) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/mara6.jpg.html)
Quote from: Jo-is-amazing on December 07, 2014, 07:19:09 AM
so this is my first profile picture under my new name on fb?
is it passable?
(https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10408901_750496428363432_3833756017018744754_n.jpg?oh=ceaf975c6854ed46893c2a1a35cb8b06&oe=551E3228)
wow looking amazing xoxo
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Quote from: Hanazono on December 11, 2014, 04:30:23 AM
pass.
Really?!
Yay!! :D
Honestly, I don't see myself as passing, because I see all of these glaring things about my face that I read as male, and wish were more feminine... but.. maybe the hrt gods will bless me a bit and alleviate that feeling.
Quote from: Jo-is-amazing on December 07, 2014, 07:19:09 AM
so this is my first profile picture under my new name on fb?
is it passable?
(https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10408901_750496428363432_3833756017018744754_n.jpg?oh=ceaf975c6854ed46893c2a1a35cb8b06&oe=551E3228)
Yes! So much pass! ^_^
Quote from: Natalia on December 04, 2014, 04:20:41 PM
This time here's me with my grandmother s2
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10301131_1583195671899891_6699035831473479585_n.jpg?oh=aeaaba2144c80cc922c0ebcd5f5d3218&oe=54FCC9B1&__gda__=1427614522_c1afb83bdcf53e2c7a4e33eb4610445e)
Almost three months full time so far =)
I hope I don't insult your grandmother now, but when I saw the photo i honestly thought to myself "well, if you look real close you can still see some masculine traits in her face"... then I realized it was the girl to the left that I was supposed to look at. :o
Damara, that's a pass from me :-*
L Katy
Hi Brenna ... yep you look good, very passable :-*
L Katy
Quote from: Jo-is-amazing on December 07, 2014, 07:19:09 AM
so this is my first profile picture under my new name on fb?
is it passable?
(https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10408901_750496428363432_3833756017018744754_n.jpg?oh=ceaf975c6854ed46893c2a1a35cb8b06&oe=551E3228)
That's a yep from me :-*
From a wet and cold Sydney today :o
L Katy
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on December 11, 2014, 01:13:52 AM
My sister-in-law has training as a beautician, and a couple of weeks ago she and my brother came over to have dinner and hang out. Before I knew it, we were in the bathroom, and she was doing my makeup. It was the first time that I have been dressed as myself in front of either of them. Resolution isn't the best, as these came from my phone, but I think the basic idea is here.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F6768171d7ed7259693c0b1a9b8ffb975.jpg&hash=9fc2a2de805d0b568252ebd9db1d39063aa1d68d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F37f98e3d7d43d002f15ed8328fda37ca.jpg&hash=cc84be4f077b53a0d553804c09dc39e2b4456763)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F959266e341c0d118f38daba6a7dc7005.jpg&hash=5636fdc1c9a0a98b26438797e916ea2347dbc184)
When I begin presenting, I'll most likely wear bangs to cover up the worry lines on my forehead. Besides that, any thoughts?
-Tegan
Got a little buried. Still hoping for a bit of feedback. I don't feel too bad about jumping to the head of the line, considering that you ladies who posted after me all look really fantastic. :-)
Hey Tegan, you look pretty dang fabulous. The make up is really good and the hair suits you. Great job.
Yeah, Tegan looking good, I like your style. I can't wait till I can wear bangs.
It looks like you are holding a little zombie arm by the wrist. :)
I think Im getting there. :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1368.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag167%2Fqueenpingo24%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20141211_20054622_zps3de45a39.jpg&hash=40c528d8eb874c86299871ca7301a43c8790ff82) (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/queenpingo24/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141211_20054622_zps3de45a39.jpg.html)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vpzv73ub6i6n7yn/IMAG0734.jpg?dl=0
(https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/IMAG0734.jpg?_subject_uid=53375545&w=AAAoBcThE-sP3m6BKC66vK32WJwFzbQDMl1rDg1wchr25Q)
Quote from: AnnaCannibal on December 12, 2014, 07:27:19 AM
I think Im getting there. :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1368.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag167%2Fqueenpingo24%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20141211_20054622_zps3de45a39.jpg&hash=40c528d8eb874c86299871ca7301a43c8790ff82) (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/queenpingo24/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141211_20054622_zps3de45a39.jpg.html)
Asa, I am really digging your look. Love the bangs. You look like one cool chick.
Quote from: GothFriendly on December 12, 2014, 02:42:33 AM
Yeah, Tegan looking good, I like your style. I can't wait till I can wear bangs.
It looks like you are holding a little zombie arm by the wrist. :)
Goth,
Thank you kindly. I'm looking forward to rocking the bangs as well.
Your comment about the zombie made me laugh. Yeah, it was getting a little grabby.
And youre looking great Tegan! I love your tats!
Quote from: AnnaCannibal on December 12, 2014, 02:47:48 PM
And youre looking great Tegan! I love your tats!
Thanks! I just recently got the one on my chest finished. I figured that as the hormones took effect, that appointment would become more and more potentially awkward the longer I waited, so I bit the bullet and sat for my final session a couple days after my first hormone shot. Really glad I was able to get in immediately, since my chest is already starting to poke out.
Anyway, thanks for bringing a smile to my face.
;D,
Teg
Let me try. This is from right now and is pre everything. And I know my neck is still too big >:( . I'm 55 and just got my therapist's approval for HRT this week.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff341%2Fdebbie7571%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsf21d8b1c.jpg&hash=62a9847ac8e0e8fe46de60c830f2b7783378b42b) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/debbie7571/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsf21d8b1c.jpg.html)
Quote from: Deborah on December 12, 2014, 06:26:44 PM
This is from right now and is pre everything. And I know my neck is still too big >:( . I'm 55 and just got my therapist's approval for HRT this week.
Pre-everything? Deborah, you look genuinely like a 55 year old woman (which, incidentally, is exactly who you should be looking like). One of the dead giveaways is often someone older dressing like a teenager, or a young girl who has raided the local Goodwill and dresses like her grandmother (although the latter is evidently cool these days or something?)
I guess what I'm trying to say is that you look great already, and thanks for sharing - especially since there seems to have been a spate of posts recently in which people far younger than yourself are worried that they're too old to have good results. You're pre-HRT and knocking it out of the park. Younguns, take note! (Not that 55 is old, but you know what I mean ;))
Quote from: Deborah on December 12, 2014, 06:26:44 PM
Let me try. This is from right now and is pre everything. And I know my neck is still too big >:( . I'm 55 and just got my therapist's approval for HRT this week.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff341%2Fdebbie7571%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsf21d8b1c.jpg&hash=62a9847ac8e0e8fe46de60c830f2b7783378b42b) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/debbie7571/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsf21d8b1c.jpg.html)
Very impressed Deborah... bet ya can't wait for the E to kick in :-*
L Katy
Quote from: Deborah on December 12, 2014, 06:26:44 PM
Let me try. This is from right now and is pre everything. And I know my neck is still too big >:( . I'm 55 and just got my therapist's approval for HRT this week.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff341%2Fdebbie7571%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsf21d8b1c.jpg&hash=62a9847ac8e0e8fe46de60c830f2b7783378b42b) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/debbie7571/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsf21d8b1c.jpg.html)
I second that you look like lovely 55 year old lady! :D And HRT will make you look even better I'm sure!
Quote from: Damara on December 11, 2014, 04:22:27 AM
I posted these pics in the "fabulous" thread, but I thought I'd be daring and see what others think in this particular thread.. I'm pre-hrt and pre-any hair removal things, but have been presenting as female whenever I'm in public.. I don't do any shaving on my face if I don't have to (like when I'm home) because it really takes a toll on my skin.. :'(
They may be too "flattering" to be a real gauge of my passibillity but here they are! :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Fmaraho.jpg&hash=c4c62a61c078db2eeb201cbbfd7dab255f3b55b2) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/maraho.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Fmara6.jpg&hash=8b3c4ee2e56e57aa7e4d1e976c38cc3340db4418) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/mara6.jpg.html)
You're a pass from me ;)
Quote from: Damara on December 11, 2014, 04:22:27 AM
I posted these pics in the "fabulous" thread, but I thought I'd be daring and see what others think in this particular thread.. I'm pre-hrt and pre-any hair removal things, but have been presenting as female whenever I'm in public.. I don't do any shaving on my face if I don't have to (like when I'm home) because it really takes a toll on my skin.. :'(
They may be too "flattering" to be a real gauge of my passibillity but here they are! :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Fmaraho.jpg&hash=c4c62a61c078db2eeb201cbbfd7dab255f3b55b2) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/maraho.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Fmara6.jpg&hash=8b3c4ee2e56e57aa7e4d1e976c38cc3340db4418) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/mara6.jpg.htMml)
You've got Zooey Deschanel hair. If people don't already tell you that, get used to hearing it.
I like Zooey. She's super cute. :-)
– Tegan
Amber you are looking amazing in this pic :) very cute and passable.
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 16, 2014, 06:28:51 PM
I was actually not putting down whether I pass. I was actually replying to someone else's post. and the quote pointed to me.
But I am looking into lasers. I need them bad.....
heres a better pic in which I feel like I pass a lot better
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/f5bkny9z6mvnwb7/AADSMCKBEcm-1nZ6PlmyFdzja (https://www.dropbox.com/sc/f5bkny9z6mvnwb7/AADSMCKBEcm-1nZ6PlmyFdzja)
Approaching my 4th month on HRT. I feel like the shape of my face is changing and I'm starting to look like my mom LOL
Anyways, just sharing this two pics to you ladies and gent :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6s34pq2.jpg&hash=151b572d9bca8a4926b8536e80f274f2f4e24308)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F89vqTHX.jpg&hash=4cc223bc54cbf7f84cbdb81c2d53eaffd7a40525)
Quote from: carmenkate on December 14, 2014, 09:08:55 AM
Approaching my 4th month on HRT. I feel like the shape of my face is changing and I'm starting to look like my mom LOL
Anyways, just sharing this two pics to you ladies and gent :)
Yes. Completely feminine.
barbie~~
Quote from: barbie on December 14, 2014, 09:20:04 AM
Yes. Completely feminine.
barbie~~
Thanks so much Barbie - you are an inspiration to me xoxo
Btw, I'm loving your fishnet stockings and your glowing skin.
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Quote from: carmenkate on December 14, 2014, 09:08:55 AM
Approaching my 4th month on HRT. I feel like the shape of my face is changing and I'm starting to look like my mom LOL
Anyways, just sharing this two pics to you ladies and gent :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6s34pq2.jpg&hash=151b572d9bca8a4926b8536e80f274f2f4e24308)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F89vqTHX.jpg&hash=4cc223bc54cbf7f84cbdb81c2d53eaffd7a40525)
I like the pic on the bottom the best; very pretty :)
Quote from: carmenkate on December 14, 2014, 09:05:40 AM
Amber you are looking amazing in this pic :) very cute and passable.
Thanks!!!!!
Quote from: carmenkate on December 14, 2014, 09:08:55 AM
Approaching my 4th month on HRT. I feel like the shape of my face is changing and I'm starting to look like my mom LOL
Anyways, just sharing this two pics to you ladies and gent :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6s34pq2.jpg&hash=151b572d9bca8a4926b8536e80f274f2f4e24308)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F89vqTHX.jpg&hash=4cc223bc54cbf7f84cbdb81c2d53eaffd7a40525)
you are too!!!!!
Hi: I'm a csi genetic girl, reading the forums in order learn as much as I can to support a MtF friend who has been on HRT for the last 6 months after 40 years of being stuck in a man's body. I noticed this thread was mostly trans women offering opinions on passing. I don't know if anyone would be interested in the opinions or input from a csi girl, but I'd be happy to offer respectful, helpful opinions/advice from the perspective of a gg or even answer questions. Which may or may not be welcome, idk. Sadly, many csi girls only care what "men" think of their looks so maybe many of you have more useful opinions than I do, at least the trans-women who identify as lesbian/find women sexually attractive.
I only decided to post after weeks of reading because I thought the difference of opinions in some cases was interesting. It seems some GID /transwomen seemed conflate passing with sex appeal, whereas as a straight girl I don't look at the "sex appeal" aspect just what I see as female or feminine. (which isn't ultra-femme or girly).
I've found it very interesting in some threads here where pre-HRT transwomen are questioning whether they can transition or not based entirely on a fear of being "ugly" or not fitting the criteria of a woman. It's a terrible reality that women, far more than men, get judged on their looks so making the jump can be scary if you want to fit the definition of a "woman" that men (both straight and gay) have created in the media and popular culture. Funny that so much of what is a "woman" or what is "feminine beauty" isn't defined by us, but by men.
If my input isn't welcome and this is a trans only thread I TOTALLY understand and will not make a peep. I've just been learning so much and find you all so amazing and courageous that I wanted to try and offer something useful back. I'd be proud to call any of you one of my sisters and all of you are beautiful in your own way.
P.S. Please correct me if I use incorrect pro-nouns or labels, I'm learning as much as I can and always want to be respectful but I'm sure I'll make mistakes and the last thing I want to do is offend or hurt anyone's feelings.
Quote from: MirnaMinkoff on December 14, 2014, 11:07:25 PM
Hi: I'm a csi genetic girl, reading the forums in order learn as much as I can to support a MtF friend who has been on HRT for the last 6 months after 40 years of being stuck in a man's body. I noticed this thread was mostly trans women offering opinions on passing. I don't know if anyone would be interested in the opinions or input from a csi girl, but I'd be happy to offer respectful, helpful opinions/advice from the perspective of a gg or even answer questions. Which may or may not be welcome, idk. Sadly, many csi girls only care what "men" think of their looks so maybe many of you have more useful opinions than I do, at least the trans-women who identify as lesbian/find women sexually attractive.
I only decided to post after weeks of reading because I thought the difference of opinions in some cases was interesting. It seems some GID /transwomen seemed conflate passing with sex appeal, whereas as a straight girl I don't look at the "sex appeal" aspect just what I see as female or feminine. (which isn't ultra-femme or girly).
I've found it very interesting in some threads here where pre-HRT transwomen are questioning whether they can transition or not based entirely on a fear of being "ugly" or not fitting the criteria of a woman. It's a terrible reality that women, far more than men, get judged on their looks so making the jump can be scary if you want to fit the definition of a "woman" that men (both straight and gay) have created in the media and popular culture. Funny that so much of what is a "woman" or what is "feminine beauty" isn't defined by us, but by men.
If my input isn't welcome and this is a trans only thread I TOTALLY understand and will not make a peep. I've just been learning so much and find you all so amazing and courageous that I wanted to try and offer something useful back. I'd be proud to call any of you one of my sisters and all of you are beautiful in your own way.
P.S. Please correct me if I use incorrect pro-nouns or labels, I'm learning as much as I can and always want to be respectful but I'm sure I'll make mistakes and the last thing I want to do is offend or hurt anyone's feelings.
It is good to see you supporting your friend. Me I always open to a new point of view. For me knowledge is power and with power you can do anything you set your mind too. As a mtf l always open to the insight that any woman can give.
Vicky
Quote from: MirnaMinkoff on December 14, 2014, 11:07:25 PM
Hi: I'm a csi genetic girl, reading the forums in order learn as much as I can to support a MtF friend who has been on HRT for the last 6 months after 40 years of being stuck in a man's body. I noticed this thread was mostly trans women offering opinions on passing. I don't know if anyone would be interested in the opinions or input from a csi girl, but I'd be happy to offer respectful, helpful opinions/advice from the perspective of a gg or even answer questions. Which may or may not be welcome, idk. Sadly, many csi girls only care what "men" think of their looks so maybe many of you have more useful opinions than I do, at least the trans-women who identify as lesbian/find women sexually attractive.
I only decided to post after weeks of reading because I thought the difference of opinions in some cases was interesting. It seems some GID /transwomen seemed conflate passing with sex appeal, whereas as a straight girl I don't look at the "sex appeal" aspect just what I see as female or feminine. (which isn't ultra-femme or girly).
I've found it very interesting in some threads here where pre-HRT transwomen are questioning whether they can transition or not based entirely on a fear of being "ugly" or not fitting the criteria of a woman. It's a terrible reality that women, far more than men, get judged on their looks so making the jump can be scary if you want to fit the definition of a "woman" that men (both straight and gay) have created in the media and popular culture. Funny that so much of what is a "woman" or what is "feminine beauty" isn't defined by us, but by men.
If my input isn't welcome and this is a trans only thread I TOTALLY understand and will not make a peep. I've just been learning so much and find you all so amazing and courageous that I wanted to try and offer something useful back. I'd be proud to call any of you one of my sisters and all of you are beautiful in your own way.
P.S. Please correct me if I use incorrect pro-nouns or labels, I'm learning as much as I can and always want to be respectful but I'm sure I'll make mistakes and the last thing I want to do is offend or hurt anyone's feelings.
welcome
Quote from: carmenkate on December 14, 2014, 09:08:55 AM
Approaching my 4th month on HRT. I feel like the shape of my face is changing and I'm starting to look like my mom LOL
Anyways, just sharing this two pics to you ladies and gent :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6s34pq2.jpg&hash=151b572d9bca8a4926b8536e80f274f2f4e24308)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F89vqTHX.jpg&hash=4cc223bc54cbf7f84cbdb81c2d53eaffd7a40525)
Looking great Carmen. Face is femming out nicely. :)
I know I need FFS, will be getting that as soon as I can afford it, along with more electro and a boob job. I have a lot of years of T-poisoning to undo....
From Aug...
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From Sept...
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From Oct...
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From Nov...
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You're pretty, and you do pass :)
After FFS, you're going to be stunning!
Kira, you look great! FFS will come in time if you wish to pursue it, but for now you look radiant and a wonderful, happy smile exudes that! :D
Quote from: MirnaMinkoff on December 14, 2014, 11:07:25 PM
Hi: I'm a csi genetic girl, reading the forums in order learn as much as I can to support a MtF friend who has been on HRT for the last 6 months after 40 years of being stuck in a man's body. . . .
Hi Mirna. I can't speak for others but I would love having your honest opinion. I think I alternate between one day being way to negative on myself and the next being maybe
too optimistic so the thoughts of others is always valued.
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So, I'm four months in on HRT, waiting for my hair to grow out. Do you think I'll lose that masculine look to my face? Do you think I'm a good candidate for FFS or do you think I'll be fine on HRT?
Kira, I don't think you need FFS. How long have you been on HRT?
Quote from: LadyoftheRockies on December 15, 2014, 02:02:12 PM
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So, I'm four months in on HRT, waiting for my hair to grow out. Do you think I'll lose that masculine look to my face? Do you think I'm a good candidate for FFS or do you think I'll be fine on HRT?
Lady,
You'll be fine without it, I think. Nothing about your face screams masculine to me, and you're still really early on. Already, I think the femininity is overpowering whatever masculinity is there. New glasses and additional hair length will go a long way toward framing your face in a flattering way.
Cheers,
Tegan
Tegan,
Thank you so much! My mom offered to get me new frames and I'm seriously considering it!
Flattered,
Zeah
I love your name! Zeah.
It's so unique, my autocorrect is questioning my spelling of it.
:laugh:,
Teg
Thanks MissyMay, Amber and Leila :) I appreciate it coming from such pretty ladies.
I took a recent pic - this was last night. Do I need FFS? :) thanks!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVMrmUFm.jpg&hash=591071e8ad6cd6d4921cd2a6fa2c768fcd8113d8)
Hi Carmen,
You are beautiful and have amazing skin. You do not need FFS. However, some of the most beautiful women in the world have had cosmetic surgery. Is there a feature on yourself that concerns you?
Kind Regards, Dani
I don't think you need FFS either, you have perfect feminine harmony and balance in your facial structure. You're beautiful, Carmen :)
Quote from: LadyoftheRockies on December 15, 2014, 02:02:12 PM
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So, I'm four months in on HRT, waiting for my hair to grow out. Do you think I'll lose that masculine look to my face? Do you think I'm a good candidate for FFS or do you think I'll be fine on HRT?
I think you look good, your face doesn't look that masculine, its all about eyebrows, killing your beard and voice. My real life experiences of screw waiting for my hair to grow have shown me that you don't have to actually have to have long hair to pass for female. I've been going full time for the past month with short hair and have not even once been miss gendered.
Quote from: carmenkate on December 15, 2014, 07:50:02 PM
Thanks MissyMay, Amber and Leila :) I appreciate it coming from such pretty ladies.
I took a recent pic - this was last night. Do I need FFS? :) thanks!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVMrmUFm.jpg&hash=591071e8ad6cd6d4921cd2a6fa2c768fcd8113d8)
Definitely not needed... you look pretty good without
L Katy :-*
Quote from: katrinaw on December 15, 2014, 10:33:50 PM
Definitely not needed... you look pretty good without
L Katy :-*
Thanks very much Katrinaw :) the feeling is mutual, love.
xoxo kisses
Hi Kira, you look so good... The Oct and Nov piccies are awesome...
L Katy :-*
Quote from: misty2 on December 15, 2014, 09:08:05 PM
Hi Carmen,
You are beautiful and have amazing skin. You do not need FFS. However, some of the most beautiful women in the world have had cosmetic surgery. Is there a feature on yourself that concerns you?
Kind Regards, Dani
Thanks so much Dani xo
Quote from: missymay on December 15, 2014, 09:22:35 PM
I don't think you need FFS either, you have perfect feminine harmony and balance in your facial structure. You're beautiful, Carmen :)
Coming from a beautiful woman - I'll take your word for it :) xo
Quote from: LadyoftheRockies on December 15, 2014, 02:04:03 PM
Kira, I don't think you need FFS. How long have you been on HRT?
Thank you :)
According to my "ticker" it's been over 10 months now, which amazes me to think I'll be at 1 year in only 2 months !! It felt like an eternity, but the time does fly by !!
I've had an FFS consultation, and the surgeon was fairly conservative actually, I'm just looking to get my brow, nose, and chin softened, and possibly cheek implants to round out my face. I think my main motivation for FFS is just confirmation for my own purpose, I've always had horrible self-esteem issues. I'm hoping to get a confidence boost more than anything. ~Kira :)
Hey everyone,
I thought I might as well introduce myself physically when I stumbled upon this thread by chance :). I am pre-everything and 21 years old.
(https://www.anonimg.com/img/294c3466389bf43ea48f9ae26a0516ed.jpeg)
I made this picture in Ireland a few months ago when I was on a trip to Glendalough (the Irish landscape is beautiful and the people are friendly/outgoing, so I would recommend anyone to visit Ireland!). It is probably the only boy- /sheep-mode picture in which I am somewhat okay with myself (and my hair).
(https://www.anonimg.com/img/8c84ec8ef03c0688b0e1a416418a4438.jpeg)
Sorry for this being a dreaded mirror picture, but I could not find another way to photograph myself properly. My hair is shorter, because I was nearly bald this summer - WORST MISTAKE EVER. I used mascara and a little bit of eyeshadow. My hand seems ridiculously large, but in reality it is small and boney. I am tall (6 feet 2 inches), but my legs are pretty long and some women in my family are as long as me. I weigh about 140 lbs, which is okay with me personally since being a lightweight is a family trait and I run long distances (I virtually don't have any fat or and I have a slender non-muscly build).
I really have no idea if I will ever pass after HRT or eventual surgery. Sometimes I think "yeah this might work if given time" and an hour later I am hiding myself from the world under a blanket. According to my therapist I do have a somewhat neutral face, but I just can't judge my own face.
Quote from: carmenkate on December 15, 2014, 07:50:02 PM
Thanks MissyMay, Amber and Leila :) I appreciate it coming from such pretty ladies.
I took a recent pic - this was last night. Do I need FFS? :) thanks!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVMrmUFm.jpg&hash=591071e8ad6cd6d4921cd2a6fa2c768fcd8113d8)
You are really pretty, damn... I love your lips ;D.
Quote from: Bird Goddess on December 16, 2014, 06:49:01 AM
Hey everyone,
I thought I might as well introduce myself physically when I stumbled upon this thread by chance :). I am pre-everything and 21 years old.
(https://www.anonimg.com/img/294c3466389bf43ea48f9ae26a0516ed.jpeg)
I made this picture in Ireland a few months ago when I was on a trip to Glendalough (the Irish landscape is beautiful and the people are friendly/outgoing, so I would recommend anyone to visit Ireland!). It is probably the only boy- /sheep-mode picture in which I am somewhat okay with myself (and my hair).
(https://www.anonimg.com/img/8c84ec8ef03c0688b0e1a416418a4438.jpeg)
Sorry for this being a dreaded mirror picture, but I could not find another way to photograph myself properly. My hair is shorter, because I was nearly bald this summer - WORST MISTAKE EVER. I used mascara and a little bit of eyeshadow. My hand seems ridiculously large, but in reality it is small and boney. I am tall (6 feet 2 inches), but my legs are pretty long and some women in my family are as long as me. I weigh about 140 lbs, which is okay with me personally since being a lightweight is a family trait and I run long distances (I virtually don't have any fat or and I have a slender non-muscly build).
I really have no idea if I will ever pass after HRT or eventual surgery. Sometimes I think "yeah this might work if given time" and an hour later I am hiding myself from the world under a blanket. According to my therapist I do have a somewhat neutral face, but I just can't judge my own face.
You are really pretty, damn... I love your lips ;D.
you do have a very neutral face, the only thing that is man-ish is your nose. Hrt can cause changes in the nose though because a lot of the nose is fat. You also shaping eyebrow has a real feminizing effect as well.
being 6'2 140 means that you can experiment with weight gain after hrt to see if you like were the fat goes.
Hi Goddess,
Thanks for the compliment :-) never doubt yourself. Embrace your beauty as I see a beautiful lady with a big heart.
If you need anything let me know xo
April aka Carmen :-*
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Quote from: carmenkate on December 15, 2014, 07:50:02 PM
Thanks MissyMay, Amber and Leila :) I appreciate it coming from such pretty ladies.
I took a recent pic - this was last night. Do I need FFS? :) thanks!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVMrmUFm.jpg&hash=591071e8ad6cd6d4921cd2a6fa2c768fcd8113d8)
Definitely not need FFS. Save the money for something else instead. You are looking great and in time will look amazing.
Quote from: Leila on December 16, 2014, 08:22:07 AM
Definitely not need FFS. Save the money for something else instead. You are looking great and in time will look amazing.
Thanks so much Leila xoxo
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First picture I've been happy with.
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This is me at work, do I look male or female?
Hi Boat Girl! You have have wonderful tooth show with your lovely lip shape. Perfect lips. You chin and Jawline are feminine and will improve even more with HRT, if that is what you want. Your Hairline shows some recession but that can be addressed. But you need to get on that right now. To stop that recession in its tracks, and perhaps recover some hair, I would investigate Finasteride (ASAP) if you have time. (my insurance covers it. I do not know about yours. But i think it is critical at your age.) You do not need to go through a battery of psychologists to get that RX, just make an appointment and ask for it. A dermatologist or even an internist can write that RX. Also, your upturned nose is very feminine. Kind Regards, Dani
Hi! Have been lurking for a while.
I have had two laser treatments but am otherwise pre-everything - will i pass? Obviously, shadow needs to be worked on... any other tips/criticism?
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Thanks, I've been one hormones, including finesteride for two years, and this is my usual look at work, I don't like having my hair back,for obvious reasons and I am considering going for ffs.and getting my teeth sorted.
My main reason for posting was I wonder what people see when they walk into the workshop, I have no idea.
@ meadow, im quite sure you have potential to pass, you have pretty eyes, and nice features hormones soften your face so it's very much going to improve your cheeks pad out below your eyes, which is nice.
Clearly there's plenty of other things to get passing, but it's a good starting point, size of hands and overall dimensions are a distinct advantage if well within female norms, but everything can be made up for or lost with voice, I've known pretty rough looking people with great voices pass and potentially stunning girls who give it all away when they speak, so that's the thing that costs little but the gain is most critical to being easy for strangers to accept you as female without question.
Quote from: Meadow on December 17, 2014, 12:13:07 PM
Hi! Have been lurking for a while.
I have had two laser treatments but am otherwise pre-everything - will i pass? Obviously, shadow needs to be worked on... any other tips/criticism?
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You look like a pass but eyebrows are a big thing for me. I think if they were a bit thinner you would look more feminine
Quote from: Meadow on December 17, 2014, 12:13:07 PM
Hi! Have been lurking for a while.
I have had two laser treatments but am otherwise pre-everything - will i pass? Obviously, shadow needs to be worked on... any other tips/criticism?
https://38.media.tumblr.com/f54025c86ca101791d910e2ed42d405c/tumblr_ngqnlj42t41u2aw82o1_1280.jpg
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I think you will look stunning with some hormones. you are already pretty and that's a compliment coming from this lezzy over here! but I agree that eyebrow shaping would help but its not necessarily!
Quote from: amber roskamp on December 16, 2014, 07:25:21 AM
you do have a very neutral face, the only thing that is man-ish is your nose. Hrt can cause changes in the nose though because a lot of the nose is fat. You also shaping eyebrow has a real feminizing effect as well.
being 6'2 140 means that you can experiment with weight gain after hrt to see if you like were the fat goes.
Thanks for looking at my pictures! My nose is large indeed(it is high on the why-are-you-part-of-my-body-list), and I hope there can be made some adjustments to it. I don't know if I would want to gain weight... if it will help a lot I might consider it, but I like my figure as it is now. HRT usually increases your weight right?
Quote from: Bird Goddess on December 17, 2014, 06:12:08 PM
Thanks for looking at my pictures! My nose is large indeed(it is high on the why-are-you-part-of-my-body-list), and I hope there can be made some adjustments to it. I don't know if I would want to gain weight... if it will help a lot I might consider it, but I like my figure as it is now. HRT usually increases your weight right?
some people do because of a lowered metabolism, other people don't. But it can help if you aren't seeing results and you feel comfortable putting on 5-10 pounds. just to see where fat is redistributing. I have heard of people doing this and liking the results. but if you like how your figure is don't do it.
im planning on experimenting with weight gain 8 months down the road if i am still were im at now. i weigh 140 as well but im only 6'0.
Quote from: LadyoftheRockies on December 15, 2014, 02:02:12 PM
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So, I'm four months in on HRT, waiting for my hair to grow out. Do you think I'll lose that masculine look to my face? Do you think I'm a good candidate for FFS or do you think I'll be fine on HRT?
I'm just using your pic to make a general comment about glasses in general and how to pic good frames as a woman. (You look cute in glasses, so please don't think I'm saying otherwise.)
I've noticed a lot of the members here include glasses with the physical female presentation they are working on and most tend to go with the frames that are a bit trendy now, a bit hip, heavier, square frames. I'm a csi woman who also wears glasses and I'm very careful about frames. I'm dark haired, 5'7 but thin and very small boned (size 4 engagement ring) so look very feminine and delicate looking according to most men.) Even I think the boxy glasses can make me look a bit butch or more masculine - esp if the frames hit right near your eyebrows. It can make you look like you have huge eyebrows if the frames top rim hits right at your brown line - and it's not a good look. My main dislike of the frames for myself is the hitting of the brow line and screwing up the look of my eyebrows by adding another dark heavy straight line above my eyes.
Since most of the women here are very interested in passing in most cases I would suggest going less with the fashionable heavy square frames of the moment and with a more delicate type of frame if you need glasses. I think the glasses appeal is partly in having a kind of boyish/masculine looking frames on a girl - its the unexpected contrast. (Much like a girl looking sexy in her boyfriend's white collar shirt, if you get my drift) But if you're trying to avoid any masculine connotations in the public's perceptions, go with more femme, delicate frames. They can still have the thicker frames - but go with some that are a bit rounder at the bottom, or even the cat's eye frames.
Obviously, this doesn't apply to every transwoman - certain frames can flatter certain faces very well, but the boxy heavy frames tend to work best on very feminine women. Even I don't go all in for them and I probably could pull them off better than most, but the brow line hit is my biggest issue with them. I DO understand that some of the photos I'm seeing here are probably a result of MtF still living in two worlds and needing glasses they can use when presenting as a male, but for those who want flattering glasses for living as a woman - go more delicate, bit less square and most importantly pay attention to how they go with your natural eyebrows.
PS> Thanks to S. who sent me a very kind PM. I'd like to respond but can't figure out how, but just wanted to acknowledge some way.
Thank you, Mirna Minkoff! I got these before I came out and agree that they aren't doing me any favors. I just started looking for new frames.
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This is me at work, do I look male or female?
Based on that photo alone, I would assume you were male. But I think that has more to do with visual cues that are easily adjustable if you want to appear female.u are androgynous looking person, so because of that the little things like hair/wardrobe are what people will look at to try and gender type you. (I don't know what your voice is like, but that also would be a big factor) Your hair (at least in that photo) is a typical laid back guy look - and since you either have a bit of a receding hairline OR a high forehead the "male" look effect is exaggerated. Then you have a laid back guy t-shirt type style going on and the gender neutral glasses. I would just think you were a delicate, laid back guy, with maybe some femme inclinations from that photo.
If you want to present as a female, one word. BANGS. Bangs would make a huge difference and that alone would probably have most average people assume you were female at a glance. Also, going with more form fitting, less baggy guy, t-shirts would also make a difference. I believe you said you are HRT so show your new boobs off a bit. Get glasses that are less gender neutral - a bit more curve in the frames to give a more femme effect.
Also, possibly look into having your hair done with highlights or a stronger colors. Women tend to look at their hair as it goes with their skin/complexion. Guys don't care. Your light hair (I think its light its hard to tell in photos, but it just seems a bit bland only from what I can tell in the photo) color kind of makes you looked washed out and subdues some pretty features on your face. Not caring about that is a typical guy thing, so people seeing that will chalk that up = guy. Women will have hair/ make up that accentuates their features more.
Now, you said you were at work so I don't know your situation. Maybe you aren't comfortable or able to fully present at your job? If not you are doing a good job at a gender neutral type of look but you typical member of the public can't compute androgyny so they will try to put you in one box or another. With just a few touches they could easily think you were female, but it takes a bit of effort. Most csi women don;t go totally natural at work anyway, so it's not just a transwoman thing.
Hey guys I'm kinda just wondering if my chin/jawline/nose are too masculine to be fixed by HRT; in this picture my eyebrows are 100% still masculine, but I figure if I just pluck them I'll be alright. I'm only 17 right now so my guess is HRT will fix most of it, but the last time I put on make up I literally looked like Fiona from Shrek, and that's not what I want to look like. Of course I haven't started HRT and I didn't have any makeup or anything on in this picture. Critique?
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Hi again ;)
I am very interested in MirnaMinkoff opinion on this :-* , other opinions are welcome as well. Honestly my body just seems to be feminizing itself. I was very ill for a long time with Lymes Disease and lost a ton of muscle. I have been trying to gain weight back but it seems to be filling in girly spots. I have been trying to take care of my skin as well, I think that is making my face more feminine too. I got a size A cup bra a while back but that is now not fitting, so sorry no bra in the picts ;), time to get a bigger one I think! I added 1 body pic (kinda shy about my bod!) Anyways, in these picts I had no makeup, I had just worked out and saw that I was glowing all feminine like so I took these picts. So my questions are...
1) Should I dye my hair? (I have NEVER colored my hair and am afraid it might damage it...)
2) How old do I look?
3) Do I need to shape my brows?
4) Could I pass without HRT?
5) Do I look girly?
(I need a trac shave and maybe fix the broken nose)
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Love,
Jade
:-*
Quote from: Sammie Blade on December 18, 2014, 08:42:41 PM
It's a little blurry, but that's how I like it!
Do I pass? I still get dude-bro'd by all my friends/family.
You would pass if I saw you. You look good. You know family / friends will always dude-bro you no matter what...
rekog face rec rated you female and beautiful! The computer thinks you are sexy! http://rekognition.com/index.php/demo/face (http://rekognition.com/index.php/demo/face)
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Quote from: Skrm on December 17, 2014, 11:51:44 PM
Hey guys I'm kinda just wondering if my chin/jawline/nose are too masculine to be fixed by HRT; in this picture my eyebrows are 100% still masculine, but I figure if I just pluck them I'll be alright. I'm only 17 right now so my guess is HRT will fix most of it, but the last time I put on make up I literally looked like Fiona from Shrek, and that's not what I want to look like. Of course I haven't started HRT and I didn't have any makeup or anything on in this picture. Critique?
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Honest critique coming your way.... The only thing that looks overly manish is your nose in my opinion. i have talked to many girls that said there nose got thinner from hrt. I personally believe that you could have some very good results on hrt. you are very young and your bad puberty hasn't taken its course completely. so i think you have a lot to look forward to.
Quote from: Jade_404 on December 18, 2014, 08:38:00 PM
Hi again ;)
I am very interested in MirnaMinkoff opinion on this :-* , other opinions are welcome as well. Honestly my body just seems to be feminizing itself. I was very ill for a long time with Lymes Disease and lost a ton of muscle. I have been trying to gain weight back but it seems to be filling in girly spots. I have been trying to take care of my skin as well, I think that is making my face more feminine too. I got a size A cup bra a while back but that is now not fitting, so sorry no bra in the picts ;), time to get a bigger one I think! I added 1 body pic (kinda shy about my bod!) Anyways, in these picts I had no makeup, I had just worked out and saw that I was glowing all feminine like so I took these picts. So my questions are...
1) Should I dye my hair? (I have NEVER colored my hair and am afraid it might damage it...)
2) How old do I look?
3) Do I need to shape my brows?
4) Could I pass without HRT?
5) Do I look girly?
(I need a trac shave and maybe fix the broken nose)
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Love,
Jade
:-*
Hi Jade: First I will answer your direct questions.
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) Should I dye my hair? (I have NEVER colored my hair and am afraid it might damage it...)I understand the fear, because it appears you have nice, silky healthy hair, but think some color would really bring out more of your features. A good colorist or even color in a box shouldn't do and bad damage. If your really concerned get a non-permanent box color to try out and see if you think the difference is worth a little risk. Though you are not super fair, you are light complexed/colored. I'm personally dark haired/ featured the "faded" look has never been an issue with me, but I have fair complexed friends and the difference between them with a bit of make-up and hair color, and none, is night and day. If you are worried about damaging your hair you could go darker (that actually adds to your hair and makes it thicker) or (and this would be my suggestion) just add some highlights or lowlights to your hair, it would look lovely on you. Also, maybe get a bit of trim so your hair frames your face a bit - a few layers around the face to show it off would be great.
Really, though most hair does just fine with some color, It;s the people who constantly strip then color their hair regularly that end up with the awful straw hair - but that takes a lot of dye jobs, curling irons, teasing and hair dryer marathons to get it to that point.
2) How old do I look?Early 30's?
3) Do I need to shape my brows?Yes, we ALL need to shape and take care of our brows. No one gets a pass on this.
4) Could I pass without HRT?I had assumed you were on HRT so I believe so.
5) Do I look girly?Your body is quite feminine, amazingly so for no HRT. I will admit I'm not the best person to ask body questions about, because I think men tend to look at bodies far more than women do. Women look at faces and weight. You look slender and toned, which is what every woman I know tries to achieve.
Etc.. advice if you want it....
The one feature that adds a masculine sense to your face (and which you mentioned yourself) is the broken nose. I guess it's because guys with broken noses are seen as really macho/tough - so it's one of those things that stands out as a hyper-masculine attribute in some respects. I'm sure getting it fixed will solve that issue, in the mean time if you wear make-up a bit of contouring with blush and foundation would dramatically alter the appearance of your nose and greatly reduce any masculine effect i might have on your appearance. (You can find a million videos on youtube that show exactly how to use make-up contouring to hide a "big" nose or change the shape - and the effects are amazing.)
I would also suggest using some blush on your cheeks to bring out your cheekbones a bit - or even just add to that natural glow you mentioned. Soft pink would suit you well - I love cream blushes for this and it looks so natural if used correctly and blended in well. (I'll even go so far as to plug Make-up Forever at Sephora as my favorite cream blush, and foundation for that matter. Very natural and flattering.)
To be clear, when writing about brow shaping above it was in regards to eye-brow shaping and how everyone needs to do it.
I just remembered as part of face surgeries some transwomen have they actually do work on the actual brow, and shave it down, so I wanted to be clear I am talking EYE-BROWS in the above. I didn't want anyone to mistakenly think I meant brow-surgery or shaving was a necessity by any means.
Oh, and Jade, I know you mentioned a possible trac-shave. I've actually noticed there seems to be a lot of focus on the trac/ adam's apple stuff on these forums and in the trans-community but honestly I rarely notice it as an issue on most transwomen who mention it or think it's something that stands out on them.
Okay, I'm posting the photo that is also my pp because I personally don't have the best eyesight and assume everyone else doesn't as well. lol! Had my brows waxed yesterday which was fun! :P Although the hairdresser suggested (actually pushed way to much) that I get all kinds of damaging treatments on my hair ("to help it") PLUS suggested I grow my fringe out and have it side swept.. not. happening.. not until I get my hairline more feminine somehow.. Anyway, what do you think? I was just out of a lovely bath.. epson salts lol! I didn't wash my makeup off but this was the end of the day so it is quite diminished here.. okay too much talking! Hugs all!
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Quote from: Damara on December 19, 2014, 12:49:15 AM
Okay, I'm posting the photo that is also my pp because I personally don't have the best eyesight and assume everyone else doesn't as well. lol! Had my brows waxed yesterday which was fun! :P Although the hairdresser suggested (actually pushed way to much) that I get all kinds of damaging treatments on my hair ("to help it") PLUS suggested I grow my fringe out and have it side swept.. not. happening.. not until I get my hairline more feminine somehow.. Anyway, what do you think? I was just out of a lovely bath.. epson salts lol! I didn't wash my makeup off but this was the end of the day so it is quite diminished here.. okay too much talking! Hugs all!
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Damara, I think you look stunning! :icon_yikes: I saw some of your other pictures before and those were also gorgeous. Maybe its the lighting ;) lol I'm a bit jealous! Your eyes are hypnotizing :o I forgot what I was writing... stop looking at me, hehe!
Love,
Jade
:-*
Quote from: Jade_404 on December 19, 2014, 01:51:03 AM
Damara, I think you look stunning! :icon_yikes: I saw some of your other pictures before and those were also gorgeous. Maybe its the lighting ;) lol I'm a bit jealous! Your eyes are hypnotizing :o I forgot what I was writing... stop looking at me, hehe!
Love,
Jade
:-*
Thank you so much, Jade! I am sure it's the lighting! Haha! I am terribly self conscious so all of your lovely words are very welcome. <3 I am trying hard to be happy as I am. I think estrogen will help immensely. Patience..
Quote from: MirnaMinkoff on December 19, 2014, 12:26:41 AM
To be clear, when writing about brow shaping above it was in regards to eye-brow shaping and how everyone needs to do it.
I just remembered as part of face surgeries some transwomen have they actually do work on the actual brow, and shave it down, so I wanted to be clear I am talking EYE-BROWS in the above. I didn't want anyone to mistakenly think I meant brow-surgery or shaving was a necessity by any means.
Oh, and Jade, I know you mentioned a possible trac-shave. I've actually noticed there seems to be a lot of focus on the trac/ adam's apple stuff on these forums and in the trans-community but honestly I rarely notice it as an issue on most transwomen who mention it or think it's something that stands out on them.
MirnaMinkoff you are awesome!
Thank you so much for you insightful input! I didn't even know there was temporary hair color, hehe. I am going to check out that blush you mentioned too. I did figure you meant eyebrow hair shaping. I could pluck them but I don't want to mess it up. Again thanks for helping me, I do not have any girls around that would help me with this type of knowledge. I am 40 (shh I want to pass as early 30s so THANK YOU for that complement :-*) At this age all my friends are all married and off doing stuff and no time to help me be more feminine. Hanging around 20-30 year olds to learn makeup tips and fashion stuff seems like a bad idea, so youtube it is...
Here I included another pic, 2 with makeup. I was trying to make the bad nose smaller, still needs work..How does the make up look tho?. Also YES I used to be one of them tough guys and got the nose broke a few times. (see the image of me in the corner, my hair is pulled back, i was in my mid 20s). I also added other body shots of me now for comparison. My theory is Lymes disease can turn you into a girl. I was so sick and lost so much bulk muscle mass there is no way I could get it back now. Working out now just makes me look girly I guess. I am starting to accept it. I am still a badass tho ;)
p.s. I LOVE doing my nails! ;D Who would of thunk it!
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Love,
Jade
:-*
Quote from: Iliana.Found on December 08, 2014, 10:47:16 PM
Hey you are all looking fab!!! Here are a few of me pre-HRT:
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So what do you think?? Do I have a chance at passing now?? Thanks!!
I have been told so far that the only thing that I need to take care of in order to pass is facial hair which is great(nice and easy)!!! I had future plans to get FFS which as you all know costs a pretty penny, but if it can be avoided then great more money for a vacay. Does anyone else have an opinion? Honesty is very much appreciated. To me I look fem, but I would like to know what others perceive as well. Thanks :)
You have a terrific smile :)
Quote from: Jade_404 on December 19, 2014, 02:53:41 AM
MirnaMinkoff you are awesome!
Thank you so much for you insightful input! I didn't even know there was temporary hair color, hehe. I am going to check out that blush you mentioned too. I did figure you meant eyebrow hair shaping. I could pluck them but I don't want to mess it up. Again thanks for helping me, I do not have any girls around that would help me with this type of knowledge. I am 40 (shh I want to pass as early 30s so THANK YOU for that complement :-*) At this age all my friends are all married and off doing stuff and no time to help me be more feminine. Hanging around 20-30 year olds to learn makeup tips and fashion stuff seems like a bad idea, so youtube it is...
Here I included another pic, 2 with makeup. I was trying to make the bad nose smaller, still needs work..How does the make up look tho?. Also YES I used to be one of them tough guys and got the nose broke a few times. (see the image of me in the corner, my hair is pulled back, i was in my mid 20s). I also added other body shots of me now for comparison. My theory is Lymes disease can turn you into a girl. I was so sick and lost so much bulk muscle mass there is no way I could get it back now. Working out now just makes me look girly I guess. I am starting to accept it. I am still a badass tho ;)
p.s. I LOVE doing my nails! ;D Who would of thunk it!
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Love,
Jade
:-*
Glad to help. Out of curiosity tend contracting lyme disease end up spurring you to transition? Meaning you had been considering it but after getting ill and the changes it caused, it motivated you to go ahead? Do you think you would have decided to transition if you had never gotten lyme disease?
Also, non-permanent hair color can be found in every hair color section of a drug store - you just have to look closely at the box info. 85% are permanent color and they say so on the box, but if you look closely you will also see boxes that say non-permanent color. I like non-permanent for experimenting.
Youtube is an awesome place for anyone to get make-up tips. Women do great videos but so do drag queens - they are the masters as contouring and hiding certain features. (Even straight csi women will tell you drag queens are make-up freaking ninjas, but you can tone down their results easily by adjusting colors and amounts. Drag queens are usually doing stage make-up so it's more extreme in many respects, but the good contour tips and camouflaging advice is still very sound.)
I will also say, because transwomen may or may not know this,
you can go to any department store make-up counter or Sephora for a free make-over anytime. They will have their trained staff work with you on the best make-up for your face and skin type and they usually do an excellent job. Now they do this because they want to sell you product, but it's not a requirement - the make over is free and you can buy some of the stuff they use if you like but it's not a requirement. (But usually you find one or two awesome things you love on yourself and end up buying, and this is why free make-overs are offered at every make up counter, they do increase sales and introduce you to new products.) It's a great way to find out what works best for you and get some professional advice, with out having to spend a small fortune testing out different make up.
Quote from: MirnaMinkoff on December 19, 2014, 12:06:41 PM
Glad to help. Out of curiosity tend contracting lyme disease end up spurring you to transition? Meaning you had been considering it but after getting ill and the changes it caused, it motivated you to go ahead? Do you think you would have decided to transition if you had never gotten lyme disease?
Also, non-permanent hair color can be found in every hair color section of a drug store - you just have to look closely at the box info. 85% are permanent color and they say so on the box, but if you look closely you will also see boxes that say non-permanent color. I like non-permanent for experimenting.
Youtube is an awesome place for anyone to get make-up tips. Women do great videos but so do drag queens - they are the masters as contouring and hiding certain features. (Even straight csi women will tell you drag queens are make-up freaking ninjas, but you can tone down their results easily by adjusting colors and amounts. Drag queens are usually doing stage make-up so it's more extreme in many respects, but the good contour tips and camouflaging advice is still very sound.)
I will also say, because transwomen may or may not know this, you can go to any department store make-up counter or Sephora for a free make-over anytime. They will have their trained staff work with you on the best make-up for your face and skin type and they usually do an excellent job. Now they do this because they want to sell you product, but it's not a requirement - the make over is free and you can buy some of the stuff they use if you like but it's not a requirement. (But usually you find one or two awesome things you love on yourself and end up buying, and this is why free make-overs are offered at every make up counter, they do increase sales and introduce you to new products.) It's a great way to find out what works best for you and get some professional advice, with out having to spend a small fortune testing out different make up.
If I had never gotten Lymes disease I may have not decided to transition. My Dads side of the family drilled it into me when I was little about what gender specific activities I should and should not do. Put the fear of god into me if I played with girly things. I am still not totally decided on transition, lots of fears and questions. I am 90% sure I should at least partially transition. I pretty much feel like arguing with my hormone balance now is a losing battle. I could repeat the heavy regiment of body building exercise and nutrition as well as take testosterone and supplements to rebuild to how I was in my 20s. That seems like a waste and I was so angry and aggressive back then. I just want to be me now, not some fake "man" persona and body I built up to please those around me.
I always knew that I was different than the other guys but I worked out extra hard and focus on other things so I stopped thinking about it. I pushed any girly thoughts way back in my mind and banished them, I manned up. I never got chest hair or hardly any leg hair and face hair. I still always had my long hair, maybe that alone helped me not feel dysphoria for so long . A few years after getting Lymes I kinda took a look at my life and health and I was actually hiding my body, ashamed. :embarrassed: For a while I just looked real sick, like death had a grip on me. I finally got my health managed, except some occasional Lymes flair ups and I started working out and trying to eat better. I don't have the strength or energy like I had when I was younger and the Lymes causes other neurological impairments. I am positive it caused a hormonal imbalance in me, and that I am probably already predisposition to react to female hormones. I will be getting checked for intersex conditions when I see the specialist. I found that even tho I was getting healthy again that I had to hide my body because it was now all girly curves. Hard to stand like a tough man when most of that bulk faded away. People started noticing, asking why I stood / walked /sat like a girl. Strangers thinking I am a girl, saying ma'am or Ms. When I had a goatee , people doing a double take... maybe looking at me like I was a freak.
Now I need to convince the therapist that a low dose of E will help me physically and mentally. That I am not crazy and I understand completely what is happening in my body and what needs to be done to fix it. My body is changing, but also I have hot flashes and mood swings, like when females are not getting enough E. This is all kind of complex and not the typical Transgender story that I read and hear about. My body is changing and my female mind is reawakening. I don't think I will fight her, she is strong! And I like it. :P
Love,
Jade
:-*
Quote from: Iliana.Found on December 19, 2014, 09:40:14 AM
I have been told so far that the only thing that I need to take care of in order to pass is facial hair which is great(nice and easy)!!! I had future plans to get FFS which as you all know costs a pretty penny, but if it can be avoided then great more money for a vacay. Does anyone else have an opinion? Honesty is very much appreciated. To me I look fem, but I would like to know what others perceive as well. Thanks :)
I think you could make a gorgeous woman, but at the moment your actual brow (not just eyebrows) and jawline are quite masculine and that would be the issues that would make it difficult to pass as you are now atm. From what I understand HRT could greatly soften and change both those features, but esp the chin/jaw line. Bangs would hide your brow but the jaw is the only thing I see as definite masculine trait on your face that could make passing difficult, but HRT could change that so FFS may not be needed. (Beside the facial hair, which as you said can be taken care of)
I actually started really looking at what makes a face fem/masculine a few months ago when I read about FFS because it surprised me the two main issues FFS can tackle are brow shaving and jaw softening - and what a difference it made. I had never really given much thought what made a face look manly or womanly, but it ended up being subtle things. They are traits I don't think we are even consciously aware of, until they are pointed out. (Now what makes a face beautiful I had considered, and that's almost always (whether male or female) is symmetry and balance.)
Thank you for sharing you view points. I can see what you mean
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Quote from: MirnaMinkoff on December 19, 2014, 12:26:41 AM
To be clear, when writing about brow shaping above it was in regards to eye-brow shaping and how everyone needs to do it.
I just remembered as part of face surgeries some transwomen have they actually do work on the actual brow, and shave it down, so I wanted to be clear I am talking EYE-BROWS in the above. I didn't want anyone to mistakenly think I meant brow-surgery or shaving was a necessity by any means.
Oh, and Jade, I know you mentioned a possible trac-shave. I've actually noticed there seems to be a lot of focus on the trac/ adam's apple stuff on these forums and in the trans-community but honestly I rarely notice it as an issue on most transwomen who mention it or think it's something that stands out on them.
Wait, so what's the difference? I thought brow was just short for eyebrows.
Quote from: Ataraxia on December 20, 2014, 07:17:28 AM
Wait, so what's the difference? I thought brow was just short for eyebrows.
You can get surgery on you brow bone. To make it smaller/smoother. it is FFS. Mens brows protrude more so than women's usually. Thats all I really know about it.
Love,
Jade :P
Quote from: Hanazono on December 20, 2014, 10:48:57 AM
Do you mean :" A person may have surgery on his or her brow bone " ?
I am talking about FFS in general terms, I don't know anything about the procedures. I said "bone" and probably meant "line" as in "brow line". I guess it is called a brow lift. I am not planning any surgery on my forehead brow area anyway. If I do anything it will be to fix my nose and some teeth/jaw fixing that needs to be done. Like I said I don't know a lot about these FFS procedures and I wont research more until I have the money to fix stuff.
looking up info on FFS they mention...
"In facial feminization surgery a brow lift is almost always combined with forehead recontouring and hairline reshaping, procedures using the same incision. In forehead feminisation procedures, it's very important to correct the position and shape of the eyebrows with a brow lift after remodeling the frontal bone."
:P
Quote from: Hanazono on December 20, 2014, 10:48:57 AM
Do you mean :" A person may have surgery on his or her brow bone " ?
I'm sure brow shaping here usually just refers to eyebrows, but just to be safe I decided to clarify because in FFS there is a brow "shaving" prodecure and I didn't want any confusion (though it looks like I caused it by even mentioning it.)
From my understanding one component of FFS (if its needed) is shaving down and contouring your actual brow bone. Generally men's brows are stronger and protrude more than a females, then you also have the hairline differences. I really had never thought about the differences between a male/female brow but once I saw photos of someone who had their brow shaped/shaved in a FFS it was AMAZING the difference it made. Granted this person had a strong masculine brow (mores than most guys even) but the difference it made in them appearing female was massive. It wasn't even obvious what had been done until it was pointed out - I think the brow and jaw shapes are almost subconscious cues to gender typing. I had never thought about a man's brow being very different from a GG. (And some aren't) But these adjustments to the brow and jaw made this transwoman look like an almost new person - such a difference it made. But the strange thing was before I read what surgeries had been done, I don't think I could really pinpoint what the exact changes were. I guess it just all adds up to that softening and curvature of faces that we subconsciously associate with "female." When you see genetic men with long beautiful hair that still look super masculine, it usually because they have a strong brow and jaw.
TO JADE: Thank you for explaining. I hope the effects of the lyme disease end up being a blessing in disguise and lead to you leading the life that make's you the happiest and most fulfilled - whatever that may be. Sometimes a tragedy or misfortune ends up being the watershed event that makes us take life by the horns. (I know two transwomen and both came out of the closet and realized they were really women only after a great and deep loss in their personal life. Almost as if the loss brought home the point that you have one life and time must not be wasted on holding up a facade or living a lie for the sake of others.)
Quote from: MirnaMinkoff on December 20, 2014, 03:03:05 PM
I'm sure brow shaping here usually just refers to eyebrows, but just to be safe I decided to clarify because in FFS there is a brow "shaving" prodecure and I didn't want any confusion (though it looks like I caused it by even mentioning it.)
From my understanding one component of FFS (if its needed) is shaving down and contouring your actual brow bone. Generally men's brows are stronger and protrude more than a females, then you also have the hairline differences. I really had never thought about the differences between a male/female brow but once I saw photos of someone who had their brow shaped/shaved in a FFS it was AMAZING the difference it made. Granted this person had a strong masculine brow (mores than most guys even) but the difference it made in them appearing female was massive. It wasn't even obvious what had been done until it was pointed out - I think the brow and jaw shapes are almost subconscious cues to gender typing. I had never thought about a man's brow being very different from a GG. (And some aren't) But these adjustments to the brow and jaw made this transwoman look like an almost new person - such a difference it made. But the strange thing was before I read what surgeries had been done, I don't think I could really pinpoint what the exact changes were. I guess it just all adds up to that softening and curvature of faces that we subconsciously associate with "female." When you see genetic men with long beautiful hair that still look super masculine, it usually because they have a strong brow and jaw.
TO JADE: Thank you for explaining. I hope the effects of the lyme disease end up being a blessing in disguise and lead to you leading the life that make's you the happiest and most fulfilled - whatever that may be. Sometimes a tragedy or misfortune ends up being the watershed event that makes us take life by the horns. (I know two transwomen and both came out of the closet and realized they were really women only after a great and deep loss in their personal life. Almost as if the loss brought home the point that you have one life and time must not be wasted on holding up a facade or living a lie for the sake of others.)
Oh ok, and yea I agree that shaving down the bone underneath the brows makes a huge difference. Really brings out people's eyes and takes away that somewhat "angry" looking neutral face that guys have that women don't. I'm not so sure the jaw thing is that black and white though...there's a lot of women with really large jaws that are considered really beautiful (Angelina Jolie is the first example that springs to mind, but there's some more examples here http://www.womenlargejaw.com/square-jaw-theory). Interesting stuff :)
Quote from: Ataraxia on December 20, 2014, 04:39:51 PM
Oh ok, and yea I agree that shaving down the bone underneath the brows makes a huge difference. Really brings out people's eyes and takes away that somewhat "angry" looking neutral face that guys have that women don't. I'm not so sure the jaw thing is that black and white though...there's a lot of women with really large jaws that are considered really beautiful (Angelina Jolie is the first example that springs to mind, but there's some more examples here http://www.womenlargejaw.com/square-jaw-theory). Interesting stuff :)
It's not black and white, is anything ever lol? But the link you provided shows women with strong jaw lines - not "masculine jaw" lines - and there is a big difference imho. I guess the masculine jaw line is very square (and that includes the chin) whereas a strong jaw line on a woman (usually) is softer, more refined, probably has a lot to do with fat distribution on the face too. Angelina Jolie is a prime example, her face is super femme. Her jaw line, combined with the perfect high cheekbones and delicate chin, make for a beautiful very feminine face. It helps too that she appears fine boned. Strong jaws can be very beautiful on a woman, esp because they usually come with high cheekbones. (An example of a strong jaw/chin that isn't as flattering is Bruce Willis and Demi's daughter Rummer Willis. She got plastic surgery last year or so to reduce her jaw/chin and it really changed the way she looked. I guess the media thinks its an improvement since she's now getting modeling gigs. But even her jaw line wasn't "masculine" per se, probably due to her chin. She had a (very large) heart shaped face.)
The type of "masculine jawline" I was referring to looks like this: (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.starpulse.com%2FPhotos%2Fpv%2FAiden%2520Turner-2.JPG&hash=994be2b4e5952e3aacebff401fdc731b7bce93e8)
That guy, and a celebrity example like George Clooney or Arnold Swarztnegg-howthehelldoyouspellit, are the type of "square masculine" jaw I refer too. That type of strong, square jaw is a feature I think of as almost hyper masculine. (Most guys do not have such a strong, definitive jaw line as these guys.)
Speaking of jaws, what do you think of (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FeAUc9Fs.jpg&hash=391a8853e0f2690792435d39b5837665c66c8925)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FCofhJmT.jpg&hash=fdc2257dbf2f365391038502dd5e0b2a1962d190)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FvrcLKQZ.jpg&hash=f6094e7adfc4e2618fbac7aea617aefd53af5ca6)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FCQMTfwh.jpg&hash=8c34a2d409e1688a8c8fd62fd4fd086bcfad434b)
Quote from: sqrkbkwmqko on December 20, 2014, 08:37:48 PM
Speaking of jaws, what do you think of (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FeAUc9Fs.jpg&hash=391a8853e0f2690792435d39b5837665c66c8925)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FCofhJmT.jpg&hash=fdc2257dbf2f365391038502dd5e0b2a1962d190)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FvrcLKQZ.jpg&hash=f6094e7adfc4e2618fbac7aea617aefd53af5ca6)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FCQMTfwh.jpg&hash=8c34a2d409e1688a8c8fd62fd4fd086bcfad434b)
I think your jaw is very femme
Quote from: amber roskamp on December 20, 2014, 11:20:04 PM
I think your jaw is very femme
Agreed, and amazing lips too!
It's been a while since I've posted here, but I must say everyone's looking fabulous. Slowly things are progressing I think.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1371.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag314%2FBree_Campbell%2Fimagejpg1_zpse1dcd9b5.jpg&hash=e083f3ee5a07894d48eed7b86cfeeb4032e14252)
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Bree xxx
yes, progressing
Quote from: BreezyB on December 21, 2014, 05:57:55 PM
It's been a while since I've posted here, but I must say everyone's looking fabulous. Slowly things are progressing I think.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1371.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag314%2FBree_Campbell%2Fimagejpg1_zpse1dcd9b5.jpg&hash=e083f3ee5a07894d48eed7b86cfeeb4032e14252)
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Bree xxx
You look great! The one critique I have is that I think that bangs like in your avatar look absolutely fabulous
Quote from: MirnaMinkoff on December 19, 2014, 10:05:05 PM
I think you could make a gorgeous woman, but at the moment your actual brow (not just eyebrows) and jawline are quite masculine and that would be the issues that would make it difficult to pass as you are now atm. From what I understand HRT could greatly soften and change both those features, but esp the chin/jaw line. Bangs would hide your brow but the jaw is the only thing I see as definite masculine trait on your face that could make passing difficult, but HRT could change that so FFS may not be needed. (Beside the facial hair, which as you said can be taken care of)
I actually started really looking at what makes a face fem/masculine a few months ago when I read about FFS because it surprised me the two main issues FFS can tackle are brow shaving and jaw softening - and what a difference it made. I had never really given much thought what made a face look manly or womanly, but it ended up being subtle things. They are traits I don't think we are even consciously aware of, until they are pointed out. (Now what makes a face beautiful I had considered, and that's almost always (whether male or female) is symmetry and balance.)
First off, what a wonderful thing to say "I think you could make a gorgeous woman". I always thought about the jaw/chin also and then realized that there are women who have "masculine" chin/jaw as well that are otherwise unmistakably female. Not saying that I fall into that category. Just gave me something to think about as to whether FFS would be needed for those parts. However, as you have said, HRT may fix that anyways. I very much appreciate your response :)
Heeey I am 18 and not on HRT yet girls and I am considering self medding. I feel like my femme voice but I think my face will give me away, especially my brow and nose yuuuck. I have also been plucking my eyebrows
http://imgur.com/CaAv7oD
http://imgur.com/GDhaFiY
http://imgur.com/We42u1Z
Do you think my brow is too bad? I definitely could use some fixing but that won't happen anywhere near in the future, I think ugghhh. And sorry idk how to embed pictures.
Quote from: Auroramarianna on December 22, 2014, 07:06:28 PM
Heeey I am 18 and not on HRT yet girls and I am considering self medding. I feel like my femme voice but I think my face will give me away, especially my brow and nose yuuuck. I have also been plucking my eyebrows
http://imgur.com/CaAv7oD
http://imgur.com/GDhaFiY
http://imgur.com/We42u1Z
Do you think my brow is too bad? I definitely could use some fixing but that won't happen anywhere near in the future, I think ugghhh. And sorry idk how to embed pictures.
I would never recommend self medding tbh. have you ever looked into whether anybody practices informed consent in your area? if not look into it. it is a way to start hormones with out the psychological therapy. Some states use this model for trans patients and other states like mine don't, but there are doctors within those states that will.
But in my opinion you do not have a bad brow. I do think that your nose is big and kinda masculine but hormones do cause some slight changes in the nose for some. And also I have seen women with big wide noses so its not a huge deal.
I think if you start sometime in the next few years you could see some real good results.
Hi all! what do you think? I am new here and pre everything
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I know what I think I need work on, but I wont say. Im wondering if others will say what Im already thinking
Quote from: sonson on December 23, 2014, 01:02:11 AM
Hi all! what do you think? I am new here and pre everything
What an awesome foundation you have to work with. Young, still got your hair (and it's already long), nothing that looks irreparably masculine, face kinda neutral genderwise (especially in the second photo), and you're even fortunate enough to have very little beard shadow: HRT will probably be very kind to you!
There's one thing you do need to work on. Confidence!
Quote from: Brenda E on December 23, 2014, 11:44:04 AM
What an awesome foundation you have to work with. Young, still got your hair (and it's already long), nothing that looks irreparably masculine, face kinda neutral genderwise (especially in the second photo), and you're even fortunate enough to have very little beard shadow: HRT will probably be very kind to you!
There's one thing you do need to work on. Confidence!
wow, what a nice response, thank you!! :icon_biggrin:
all I could think is that my chin and pretty much my whole head are too big, but like many of us here Im sure Im just waay too harsh on myself
you're absolutely right, I should DEFINITELY work on my confidence more than anything!
Love the smile and you are beautiful :)
Quote from: sonson on December 23, 2014, 01:02:11 AM
Hi all! what do you think? I am new here and pre everything
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FE7LtW1Z.jpg&hash=72989866745b047e4029068e0dbffca971515a9c)
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I know what I think I need work on, but I wont say. Im wondering if others will say what Im already thinking
I finally invested in a real Brazilian Virgin Hair that costs me an arm and a leg: Here are some of my pics :)
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Quote from: carmenkate on December 23, 2014, 10:09:05 PM
Love the smile and you are beautiful :)
oh gosh, thank you :icon_love::icon_love::icon_love:
you are beautiful too! loove that hair!!
Thank you :)
*plz don't quote pic I am taking down after a couple of hours*
Quote from: carmenkate on December 23, 2014, 10:12:08 PM
I finally invested in a real Brazilian Virgin Hair that costs me an arm and a leg: Here are some of my pics :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpH7bxlM.jpg&hash=1cae53faac766042b2c2b2e71e406502493da892)
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if that is a wig that's a nice wig ._. Also you look great :)
You are passable babe with the right set of weave or just let your hair grow.
It is a weave. However, it look like its growing out of my scalp as it is a full lace Brazilian virgin weave.
Passing is 80% confidence - keep that chin high xo
Quote from: Pebblez on December 24, 2014, 03:56:03 AM
All i saw in this pic was guy face but when I showed my friends they seemed so optimistic that I wanted 2nd opinion >< I love them but you know how friends can be nice
Could I pass one day?
btw I realize I'm early on thats why I ask one day Ik I don't pass now *plz don't quote pic I am taking down after a couple of hours*
if that is a wig that's a nice wig ._. Also you look great :)
I don't usually spam anniversary images, but this time I actually do feel like I need to ask the question from the title. It seems I've started to male-fail pretty consistently, but I also feel that that most certainly not the same as passing as female. It's created some... strained social situations as of late. I'm 8 months in on hormones to the day.
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Quote from: carmenkate on December 24, 2014, 07:14:04 AM
You are passable babe with the right set of weave or just let your hair grow.
It is a weave. However, it look like its growing out of my scalp as it is a full lace Brazilian virgin weave.
Passing is 80% confidence - keep that chin high xo
Thank you so much >< and wow it look's so good, I'll look into it
Also zog I think you are looking great : )
I am 3 weeks post FFS and I worry that I either didn't get rid of all the male features or I don't know what. I hoped to come out of it able to pass in sweat pants and a T shirt and feel like that didn't happen. I'm really not looking for a bunch of warm and fuzzy feelings but an honest opinion. I took this the other night and it is probably the best picture I have ever taken.
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Quote from: JenP on December 24, 2014, 12:44:14 PM
I am 3 weeks post FFS and I worry that I either didn't get rid of all the male features or I don't know what. I hoped to come out of it able to pass in sweat pants and a T shirt and feel like that didn't happen. I'm really not looking for a bunch of warm and fuzzy feelings but an honest opinion. I took this the other night and it is probably the best picture I have ever taken.
Literally the first thing I thought of when I saw your picture was how you have such a feminine face. That was before I actually read the post and saw you had FFS.
You definitely have a female face now, just wow, no doubt.
Quote from: Auroramarianna on December 22, 2014, 07:06:28 PM
Heeey I am 18 and not on HRT yet girls and I am considering self medding. I feel like my femme voice but I think my face will give me away, especially my brow and nose yuuuck. I have also been plucking my eyebrows
http://imgur.com/CaAv7oD
http://imgur.com/GDhaFiY
http://imgur.com/We42u1Z
Do you think my brow is too bad? I definitely could use some fixing but that won't happen anywhere near in the future, I think ugghhh. And sorry idk how to embed pictures.
I think that with HRT you'll be fine :) Especially at your age. There's nothing that screams male to me, I just think you need to go with a more feminine hairstyle. Don't worry about your brows either. Plucking them takes some practice, but the way they are now actually looks really good! I'd say you're at a good starting point ^^
Quote from: JenP on December 24, 2014, 12:44:14 PM
I am 3 weeks post FFS and I worry that I either didn't get rid of all the male features or I don't know what. I hoped to come out of it able to pass in sweat pants and a T shirt and feel like that didn't happen. I'm really not looking for a bunch of warm and fuzzy feelings but an honest opinion. I took this the other night and it is probably the best picture I have ever taken.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fh4YLv47.jpg&hash=5b2ac7800fd5994531e05893e407638af938eff5)
I actually think you have a very feminine face. Even the hair, whilst it's short is quite cute. Lots of sis girls look great with short hair. Now I tried really hard to pick something, and this is a stretch, but perhaps your nose width? I mean it's a real stretch for me to pick that, but if there was anything I'd say your nose. But it's complet fine Jen, I'm just trying to pick something, and it's hard! So sorry Hun, this isn't a warm and fuzzy, just honest.
Quote from: zog on December 24, 2014, 07:15:44 AM
I don't usually spam anniversary images, but this time I actually do feel like I need to ask the question from the title. It seems I've started to male-fail pretty consistently, but I also feel that that most certainly not the same as passing as female. It's created some... strained social situations as of late. I'm 8 months in on hormones to the day.
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It's a little hard to see your facial features in the pic, but I can see why your getting male fail. Now passing I think is more than how we look. So maybe try to femme things up a little and see how you feel. From a distance your body is certainly looking the part. But the attire is looking a little male. Hmm, am I really that vain lol
Quote from: zog on December 24, 2014, 07:15:44 AM
I don't usually spam anniversary images, but this time I actually do feel like I need to ask the question from the title. It seems I've started to male-fail pretty consistently, but I also feel that that most certainly not the same as passing as female. It's created some... strained social situations as of late. I'm 8 months in on hormones to the day.
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That pic is not doing justice with you.With close up it better to give opinion.Anyway like your relax and lazy mode style:)
I kind of suspected that it might be a bit too distant of a photo, but gathered that it's good to get an overall impression. Here's one that's more close up.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TJXhb0cXyTY/VJrTsc4DoNI/AAAAAAAADsw/e6fEes7sTX8/w439-h585-no/IMG-20141224-WA0007.jpg)
Quote from: JenP on December 24, 2014, 12:44:14 PM
I am 3 weeks post FFS and I worry that I either didn't get rid of all the male features or I don't know what. I hoped to come out of it able to pass in sweat pants and a T shirt and feel like that didn't happen. I'm really not looking for a bunch of warm and fuzzy feelings but an honest opinion. I took this the other night and it is probably the best picture I have ever taken.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fh4YLv47.jpg&hash=5b2ac7800fd5994531e05893e407638af938eff5)
I can't see anything that wouldn't make this a pass. It's really hard to judge your own face when you know exactly which parts to obsess over. I couldn't clock you unless I saw you in a trans* environment.
Hey! Trying to pass as well, although I think it really doesn't work yet. But we can never properly judge ourselves, can we?
So... Yeah. There you go. Pleeease! :)
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Definitely more than a pass..you are a babe :)
Quote from: Bloombox on December 26, 2014, 05:01:01 PM
Hey! Trying to pass as well, although I think it really doesn't work yet. But we can never properly judge ourselves, can we?
So... Yeah. There you go. Pleeease! :)
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Quote from: MT22TG on December 07, 2014, 01:52:32 AM
1 round of Laser 10 months HRT and physical ass kicking at the gym. 5' 8" 138lbs. I still feel like i have guy written all over my face my body not so much.
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Ignore the bluetooth i was on the phone with my girlfriend lol
I don't see a guy anywhere in those pictures. All I see is a pretty girl.
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Quote from: MRV35 on December 26, 2014, 07:33:40 PM
I don't see a guy anywhere in those pictures. All I see is a pretty girl.
I have to agree with you, she looks stunning! It actually makes me sad reading that she thinks she has guy written all over her since she looks 10 times better than I do.
I tried to get some opinions of what I looked like on here and on
>-bleeped-<. I didn't get an answer on here, but on
>-bleeped-< they thought I looked like a guy. I just don't bother sharing my picture and asking that any more.
Pre everything. I feel the brown wig is cheap looking and I look better as a blonde but maybe I need another wig style. Also, my makeup is rusty and I know it needs work. I don't think I pass yet or maybe I do a bit, and I definitely need to shed about a 100 pounds to look somewhat acceptable.
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Quote from: Pinkkatie on December 26, 2014, 08:14:10 PM
I have to agree with you, she looks stunning! It actually makes me sad reading that she thinks she has guy written all over her since she looks 10 times better than I do.
I tried to get some opinions of what I looked like on here and on >-bleeped-<. I didn't get an answer on here, but on >-bleeped-< they thought I looked like a guy. I just don't bother sharing my picture and asking that any more.
I don't think a bad experience should prevent you from getting opinions that could help you. Just my two cents. This thread seems pretty active so I'm sure you'll get some feedback here.
You look so pretty Kira. I am amazed. I can not wait to start HRT. I just hope that after 10 months I look at leafs half pretty and happy.
Quote from: carmenkate on December 26, 2014, 07:16:09 PM
Definitely more than a pass..you are a babe :)
Well... If you say so. I have a hard time believing you though. This picture was kind of a bet between my girlfriend and I. She said I definitely look like a chick. I say there's no way in hell I don't. So, yeah... I guess she wins for now. Hopefully you didn't say that to make me feel better ;(
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Part of me dosen't care as enough people are reading me as female so I've decided to go full time. But validation and helpuful advice is always apreciated. Yes I know the lighting is bad in these photos sorry
Quote from: MRV35 on December 26, 2014, 09:03:01 PM
Pre everything. I feel the brown wig is cheap looking and I look better as a blonde but maybe I need another wig style. Also, my makeup is rusty and I know it needs work. I don't think I pass yet or maybe I do a bit, and I definitely need to shed about a 100 pounds to look somewhat acceptable.
I'm going to say that I think you look better with brown hair. Maybe it's the wig style, but the shorter hair seems to suit you over the long. The first two photos appear far more passable to me. (What is your natural hair color? My hair is dark, and when I tried a blonde wig a while ago it looked wrong - didn't match my skin color, eyebrows, etc. It was quite a jarring image.)
Pre-everything, you're doing well. My only recommendations would be start the facial hair removal yesterday (huge for passability), and work on getting access to HRT. You're absolutely on the right track!
Quote from: MRV35 on December 26, 2014, 09:08:36 PM
I don't think a bad experience should prevent you from getting opinions that could help you. Just my two cents. This thread seems pretty active so I'm sure you'll get some feedback here.
I don't want to sound whinny at all, but I did post here in the past and didn't get any feedback. That's actually why I turned to
>-bleeped-< to see if I could get a response there. I think it is more about how the forums are set up and the amount of activity that caused it to get overlooked.
>-bleeped-< is set up in such a way that your post doesn't get lost in the mix.
I got some negative feedback on
>-bleeped-< which just caused me to slip more into a negative mindset. I believe that many transgender people post this information because they are reaching out for confirmation that the gender they don't want is melting away and the gender they are trying to achieve is starting to show. I know for one that is the reason I was doing it, but I didn't get that type of feedback. It was more of a judgement of my physical comeliness than the gender I was expressing. I don't care if I look like an ugly person; I care if I look like a woman.
I still get strangers that I interact with that call me "sir" or if they do call me "ma'am" they then apologize for calling me that. I always tell them there is no need to apologize, you got it right. It has been ten months of this now and it is getting more and more depressing. To see people that post on her that look so stunningly feminine saddens me, because it makes me wonder even if I did look like that, would I still be carrying around this thought that maybe I just don't look female.
Sorry, I didn't mean to hijack the thread like this, but I just needed the rant. :)
Quote from: Pinkkatie on December 27, 2014, 08:54:27 AM
I don't want to sound whinny at all, but I did post here in the past and didn't get any feedback. That's actually why I turned to >-bleeped-< to see if I could get a response there. I think it is more about how the forums are set up and the amount of activity that caused it to get overlooked. >-bleeped-< is set up in such a way that your post doesn't get lost in the mix.
I got some negative feedback on >-bleeped-< which just caused me to slip more into a negative mindset. I believe that many transgender people post this information because they are reaching out for confirmation that the gender they don't want is melting away and the gender they are trying to achieve is starting to show. I know for one that is the reason I was doing it, but I didn't get that type of feedback. It was more of a judgement of my physical comeliness than the gender I was expressing. I don't care if I look like an ugly person; I care if I look like a woman.
I still get strangers that I interact with that call me "sir" or if they do call me "ma'am" they then apologize for calling me that. I always tell them there is no need to apologize, you got it right. It has been ten months of this now and it is getting more and more depressing. To see people that post on her that look so stunningly feminine saddens me, because it makes me wonder even if I did look like that, would I still be carrying around this thought that maybe I just don't look female.
Sorry, I didn't mean to hijack the thread like this, but I just needed the rant. :)
Hun, it is ok to rant! this is a support site if there were no people on here ranting or venting then this site would probably shut down. there is no need to apologize we are here for you!
Quote from: Brenda E on December 27, 2014, 07:27:40 AM
I'm going to say that I think you look better with brown hair. Maybe it's the wig style, but the shorter hair seems to suit you over the long. The first two photos appear far more passable to me. (What is your natural hair color? My hair is dark, and when I tried a blonde wig a while ago it looked wrong - didn't match my skin color, eyebrows, etc. It was quite a jarring image.)
Pre-everything, you're doing well. My only recommendations would be start the facial hair removal yesterday (huge for passability), and work on getting access to HRT. You're absolutely on the right track!
Thanks Brenda. My natural hair color is dark brown. I guess I'll ditch the blonde wig and look for something more my color. I definitely think I need another style in either a bob or a longer length.
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Quote from: Pinkkatie on December 27, 2014, 08:54:27 AM
I don't want to sound whinny at all, but I did post here in the past and didn't get any feedback. That's actually why I turned to >-bleeped-< to see if I could get a response there. I think it is more about how the forums are set up and the amount of activity that caused it to get overlooked. >-bleeped-< is set up in such a way that your post doesn't get lost in the mix.
I got some negative feedback on >-bleeped-< which just caused me to slip more into a negative mindset. I believe that many transgender people post this information because they are reaching out for confirmation that the gender they don't want is melting away and the gender they are trying to achieve is starting to show. I know for one that is the reason I was doing it, but I didn't get that type of feedback. It was more of a judgement of my physical comeliness than the gender I was expressing. I don't care if I look like an ugly person; I care if I look like a woman.
I still get strangers that I interact with that call me "sir" or if they do call me "ma'am" they then apologize for calling me that. I always tell them there is no need to apologize, you got it right. It has been ten months of this now and it is getting more and more depressing. To see people that post on her that look so stunningly feminine saddens me, because it makes me wonder even if I did look like that, would I still be carrying around this thought that maybe I just don't look female.
Sorry, I didn't mean to hijack the thread like this, but I just needed the rant. :)
The requisite for this thread and in fact the entire forum is to be supportive and saying what's nice. When users keep quiet sometimes it's because there was nothing nice to be said, because saying anything otherwise than anything nice would subject the user to serious tone policing
Quote from: Unrepentant on December 27, 2014, 05:11:39 PM
The requisite for this thread and in fact the entire forum is to be supportive and saying what's nice. When users keep quiet sometimes it's because there was nothing nice to be said, because saying anything otherwise than anything nice would subject the user to serious tone policing
Giving an honest opinion and being nice aren't mutually exclusive. What's the purpose of coming to the thread if you're not willing to answer the question "Do I look, or could I pass, as female"? It is the name of the thread, after all...
Quote from: Unrepentant on December 27, 2014, 05:11:39 PM
The requisite for this thread and in fact the entire forum is to be supportive and saying what's nice. When users keep quiet sometimes it's because there was nothing nice to be said, because saying anything otherwise than anything nice would subject the user to serious tone policing
I'm sure you didn't mean to come across like that, but
how offensive!
When users keep quiet in this thread, it's often because they've just missed the photo, not because there's nothing nice to be said. To assume that anyone who doesn't elicit a flood of "you look so girly!" responses has no redeeming qualities is just absurd.
THE NUMBER OF RESPONSES TO A PHOTOGRAPH IN THIS THREAD IS IN NO WAY INDICATIVE OF A PERSON'S LOOKS. MORE RESPONSES != PRETTIER.
Quote from: Pinkkatie on December 16, 2014, 12:13:10 PM
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First picture I've been happy with.
Also, I've found that in most cases when you don't get too many reaponses, it's because of the quality of the photoraphy. In this picture I don't see anything particularly masculine, but it's also taken at an angle that it's hard to make out all your features, so it's hard to say based on this one whether you pass or not. I think that's why you didn't get too many responses, but just going by this picture I don't see anything that stands out as masculine -hugs-
Awww thanks girls for the feedback! Ughhh I feel so sad at my nose, it upsets me so much, have any of you noticed any change in the nose on HRT? I'm hoping mine can decrease just a tad lil, cause it's way too large and fatty.
Pinkkatie, I agree with Ataraxia! A picture so close doesn't really favor anyone. You should try taking it from another angle and more far away. I do think that you could maybe wear more feminine frames, or maybe ditch the glasses altogether? The makeup looks great, you applied it flawlessly!!
MRV35, you look amazing for pre-HRT!!! You actually pass, at least in the pictures you do!!! You still have to train makeup a bit anc remove the beard shadow but other than that, you look fab!
Quote from: immortal gypsy on December 27, 2014, 03:41:49 AM
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Part of me dosen't care as enough people are reading me as female so I've decided to go full time. But validation and helpuful advice is always apreciated. Yes I know the lighting is bad in these photos sorry
As far as I'm concerned, you seem to be coming along nicely. You know though, I'm not sure what it was about that older pic but I kinda miss seeing that as your avatar. Not sure if it was the way you were standing or that combined with the red outfit, but the look came across well. Great pick for a name as well. Dani
Quote from: Pinkkatie on December 16, 2014, 12:13:10 PM
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First picture I've been happy with.
You have some brow bossing that could use some help with
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Part of me dosen't care as enough people are reading me as female so I've decided to go full time. But validation and helpuful advice is always apreciated. Yes I know the lighting is bad in these photos sorry
Brow bossing quite pronounced here. You would pass better with this dealt with.
Please don't hate me for my honest but not malicious opinions .
Some of you want to give some feedback on some pictures? Not shaved in a day and wearing no makeup, need to get my eyebrows done and going to get a haircut before I go full time, but it could be worse :P
1 year E, 6 months spiro, 26 years old.
http://imgur.com/a/P4Mh1
Quote from: Seras on December 27, 2014, 09:17:00 PM
Some of you want to give some feedback on some pictures? Not shaved in a day and wearing no makeup, need to get my eyebrows done and going to get a haircut before I go full time, but it could be worse :P
1 year E, 6 months spiro, 26 years old.
http://imgur.com/a/P4Mh1
Very passable
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The lighting doesn't flatter me but that's how I look most days.
Thank you! :)
Quote from: Seras on December 27, 2014, 09:17:00 PM
Some of you want to give some feedback on some pictures? Not shaved in a day and wearing no makeup, need to get my eyebrows done and going to get a haircut before I go full time, but it could be worse :P
1 year E, 6 months spiro, 26 years old.
http://imgur.com/a/P4Mh1
Your looking good Sera's. Very natural pics and yes, as you pointed out a few minor things like hair and eyebrows, but hey, lots of girls don't have time for this. But I think your looking fine, and your body's looking really good, nice definition on the hips.
Quote from: Keira P on December 28, 2014, 02:41:56 AM
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The lighting doesn't flatter me but that's how I look most days.
The light doesn't flatter many of us Kiera, in fact I've decided Bree works best at night and at a certain angles lol. But your looking good. If I was to suggest anything your chin is quite pronounced and you could benefit from something to plump up your lips (filler, other stuff etc..). But your looking good, love your hair!
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Part of me dosen't care as enough people are reading me as female so I've decided to go full time. But validation and helpuful advice is always apreciated. Yes I know the lighting is bad in these photos sorry
You've been looking great for a while Immortal Gypsy and still are. Only thing I wonder is your style, I mean I love it, but wonder if it may attract undue attention. I don't mean in these pics but previous ones I've seen. So great to here your full time, you go girlfriend!
Quote from: Pinkkatie on December 16, 2014, 12:13:10 PM
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First picture I've been happy with.
It's a little difficult to see in this photo Katie. From what I see your looking good. I think eyebrows could help a little. I mean it's often hard for us to achieve the arch but maybe if you see a beauty salon they may work their magic.
Girls, I'm trying to be really honest, I hope I've been that and certainly haven't tried to offend anyone. If so, I apologise.
Bree xxx
Quote from: Auroramarianna on December 27, 2014, 06:13:19 PM
Awww thanks girls for the feedback! Ughhh I feel so sad at my nose, it upsets me so much, have any of you noticed any change in the nose on HRT? I'm hoping mine can decrease just a tad lil, cause it's way too large and fatty.
Pinkkatie, I agree with Ataraxia! A picture so close doesn't really favor anyone. You should try taking it from another angle and more far away. I do think that you could maybe wear more feminine frames, or maybe ditch the glasses altogether? The makeup looks great, you applied it flawlessly!!
MRV35, you look amazing for pre-HRT!!! You actually pass, at least in the pictures you do!!! You still have to train makeup a bit anc remove the beard shadow but other than that, you look fab!
Thanks. That's such a confidence booster. Now I need to work on my voice, improve my makeup skills, lose more weight, and get electrosys or laser. I can't wait to improve my appearance and see how much better I can look.
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Quote from: Seras on December 27, 2014, 09:17:00 PM
Some of you want to give some feedback on some pictures? Not shaved in a day and wearing no makeup, need to get my eyebrows done and going to get a haircut before I go full time, but it could be worse :P
1 year E, 6 months spiro, 26 years old.
http://imgur.com/a/P4Mh1
You pass and your body is showing some feminine curves too.
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i don't know if i pass or just look way younger than my age... :(
all ready a year and 4 months on hormons .. -_-
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Quote from: Sakushi on December 29, 2014, 03:13:55 AM
i don't know if i pass or just look way younger than my age... :(
all ready a year and 4 months on hormons .. -_-
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def pass your adorable
@ Sakushi: Pass, you look beautiful and female.
@ Bree: What photos where we talking about? My style is very casual and I don't like make up so I'm one who tries to let their body do most of the talking. I may be harder but it is working for me so far.
@ Dani: If this was the avatar you where talking about this is me pre hrt. I'm actually looking forward to putting this coat back on in about 6 months when we have winter againn (It's a ladies coat if anyone is wondering)
Quote from: immortal gypsy on December 29, 2014, 04:31:07 AM
@ Sakushi: Pass, you look beautiful and female.
@ Bree: What photos where we talking about? My style is very casual and I don't like make up so I'm one who tries to let their body do most of the talking. I may be harder but it is working for me so far.
No your right Immortal Gypsy, looking again your style looks fine. I somehow recall seeing more of an emo style, but I think I was dreaming or something. And great for no makeup, it's not good for your skin. Your looking good
Quote from: Sakushi on December 29, 2014, 03:13:55 AM
i don't know if i pass or just look way younger than my age... :(
all ready a year and 4 months on hormons .. -_-
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Your looking very female Sakushi. Isn't it great the years Eostrogen takes off us ;D
thanks everyone , but still people use male prenoce form time to time .
and now it is waiting time for surgery .. ^_^
hopefully public health insurance will pay ..
Quote from: Sakushi on December 29, 2014, 05:46:46 AM
thanks everyone , but still people use male prenoce form time to time .
and now it is waiting time for surgery .. ^_^
hopefully public health insurance will pay ..
Can I suggest something Sakushi? The clothes your wearing appear to be more androgynous than screaming female. So if you think about it as a package, whilst your face screams female, perhaps some other things are giving of male undertones. And I must ask, what surgery are you thinking about? Your looking really good and I'm not seeing anything that's yelling out 'fix me'
Quote from: BreezyB on December 29, 2014, 06:49:46 AM
Can I suggest something Sakushi? The clothes your wearing appear to be more androgynous than screaming female. So if you think about it as a package, whilst your face screams female, perhaps some other things are giving of male undertones. And I must ask, what surgery are you thinking about? Your looking really good and I'm not seeing anything that's yelling out 'fix me'
SRS and Top surgery .. ^_^
and i am kinda not really feminine and not really trying to dress feminine .
i like girls and i hate makeup..
mostly i am whit T-shirts and jeans and boots , and i love my motorcycle. LOL .. :P
Quote from: Sakushi on December 29, 2014, 07:00:33 AM
SRS and Top surgery .. ^_^
and i am kinda not really feminine and not really trying to dress feminine .
i like girls and i hate makeup..
mostly i am whit T-shirts and jeans and boots , and i love my motorcycle. LOL .. :P
Ahh, that makes sense Sakushi, I'm glad your not touching your face, you really do look great. So I would imagine the look you describe may present the odd challenge for an individual in making a quick assumption of gender. I know a lot of us girls use feminine queues such as clothes or makeup to compensate or accentuate aspects of our femininity. And so not being a feminine type of girl, might be worth thinking about how you accentuate the 'girl' aspects without coming across all feminine. But honestly, looking at you I wouldn't mistake you for a boy at all.
Hi...I am pre-everything and know there's no way that I pass right now, as desperately as I want to :'(
But perhaps I could get some tips?
I'm technically not overweight (5'6 140lb) but have a beer belly that I hate...this is my best effort to suck it in and stand straight...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZTwScH8.jpg&hash=17528c09c45a6e5b478b28adf979516ee570cbcc) (http://imgur.com/ZTwScH8)
And my face from a few nights ago...
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Naomi, for pre-everything you're not too bad at all. Your hair is magnificent, you have a soft and round face, and there's literally nothing major in your photos that stands out as being a problem. Your body is also pretty feminine right now as it is - you're small and have a curvy figure. Many of us would kill to start from where you're starting!
For the sake of giving you some practical advice rather than merely impractical (but deserved) praise, here's two places to focus your efforts: On January 2, call a laser hair removal clinic and start working on that beard. Looks like laser will be very effective judging by your coloring, and it's a cheap way to greatly increase your chances of passing. Second, the eyebrows are thick and masculine; start working on thinning and shaping them - easy to do, and again something that will hugely increase your ability to pass.
Then get yourself to your doctor and work on snagging some hormones. With very little work and even less money, you'll be able to pass.
Quote from: Naomi1110 on December 30, 2014, 05:32:20 AM
Hi...I am pre-everything and know there's no way that I pass right now, as desperately as I want to :'(
But perhaps I could get some tips?
I'm technically not overweight (5'6 140lb) but have a beer belly that I hate...this is my best effort to suck it in and stand straight...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZTwScH8.jpg&hash=17528c09c45a6e5b478b28adf979516ee570cbcc) (http://imgur.com/ZTwScH8)
And my face from a few nights ago...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRjGfejh.jpg&hash=4966279c9e6a4a1d566434bd528d221a0dec7099) (http://imgur.com/RjGfejh)
I think you definately have potential. Eye brows and facial hair are the biggest thing and practicing make-up is always good too.
LOL took a photo without my weave on :) just sharing with you ladies #keepingitreal
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Quote from: Naomi1110 on December 30, 2014, 05:32:20 AM
Hi...I am pre-everything and know there's no way that I pass right now, as desperately as I want to :'(
But perhaps I could get some tips?
I love your hair!
and I think the shape of your nose and lips are in your favor.
as others have said, brows and beard are what you need work on and luckily those are easy fixes. seriously, I just looked at your picture with my thumb covering your eyebrows and I see a woman with some beard shadow
also, smiling may help :)
Quote from: carmenkate on December 30, 2014, 04:49:19 PM
LOL took a photo without my weave on :) just sharing with you ladies #keepingitreal
you look adorable! :icon_chick:
Thanks sonson :D you look beautiful as well my love xo
Ok, I'm opening myself up here... Please be kind. But if you have any tips I'm open to trying to better my appearance. I tried to go for a smokey eye look with just lip gloss, a little powder and blended blush, kind of a minimum makeup look. I've also been growing my hair for the past 5 months, and even with a minor trim it's to the middle of my neck.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-EAceHrlk9oQ/VKOYn4Y5szI/AAAAAAAAASU/9TzhqGZw2Qg/w346-h519/IMAG0616.jpg)
and a couple full body shots:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8zzciAb4jtk/VKOZqAg1hjI/AAAAAAAAATQ/-dDpYhr86KU/w346-h519/IMAG0619.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7-apgJr9tfQ/VKOZwTHfgRI/AAAAAAAAATw/plz6DkDqEGY/w346-h519/IMAG0615.jpg)
I love the fit and flare dress, and anything with an A-line skirt.
Hi Alana,
You look great and a complete pass for me. I also want to say that I am loving the legs :)
Here's to a great 2015!
April
Thank you April.
Love your hair extensions, I noticed you posted your pictures a few weeks ago.
-Alana
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Nope. You look totally fine. Really pretty. I wouldn't say so if I didn't think so, I don't throw idle compliments. FWIW you will probably always see aspects of your old self, you are still the same person after all. You started young though you honestly should have nothing to worry about.
Quote from: Alana_Jane on December 31, 2014, 01:02:30 AM
Ok, I'm opening myself up here... Please be kind. But if you have any tips I'm open to trying to better my appearance. I tried to go for a smokey eye look with just lip gloss, a little powder and blended blush, kind of a minimum makeup look. I've also been growing my hair for the past 5 months, and even with a minor trim it's to the middle of my neck.
I say keep doing what you're doing and growing out that hair!
also, Im a big fan of the minimal make up look, as opposed to your avatar pic :)
Quote from: CrescentMemory on December 31, 2014, 10:58:48 AM
I am really nervous about doing this but I think it will be good to get feedback from girls like me. It seems that we have an innate ability to pick up on things that others might miss or not pay attention to.
Anyway, I started my transition when I was 14 and had srs in 2011 and even though I've changed a lot I still seem to notice just a glimpse of who I was at times. I guess I'm just wondering if I'm being paranoid or if there really is still something I need to work on. Thanks for any feedback!
nervous? you look phenomenal. I would never give your gender a second thought if I saw you randomly :o
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1129.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm515%2FMandy_Dawn1%2FIMG_1727_zps72c0dbd4.jpg&hash=910e5e6d2bec12ec37e06575069030292578e0c1) (http://s1129.photobucket.com/user/Mandy_Dawn1/media/IMG_1727_zps72c0dbd4.jpg.html)
How do I look in this one? brutal honesty appreciated.
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxwEVMdUddrTSDNVbllNZkZoUkVLcDlCUXJUaTkxZjZnZ1FR/view?usp=sharing)
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxwEVMdUddrTaFFISEpSTEh4bzNzU1JNWF9BazlzdWlRRHBZ/view?usp=sharing)
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxwEVMdUddrTcnZLdU1Jbnh5WURiSTFnbENmZFBlLTlCSlpN/view?usp=sharing)
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxwEVMdUddrTcVhQa253cnVTZGFvUVBUUDJDbzg0QmlZQ1JJ/view?usp=sharing)
For some reason you have to right-click the images and open them in a new tab fiiirst.
Pre-HRT pre-errythang, I'm shy ;_;.
Quote from: CrescentMemory on December 31, 2014, 10:58:48 AM
I am really nervous about doing this but I think it will be good to get feedback from girls like me. It seems that we have an innate ability to pick up on things that others might miss or not pay attention to.
Anyway, I started my transition when I was 14 and had srs in 2011 and even though I've changed a lot I still seem to notice just a glimpse of who I was at times. I guess I'm just wondering if I'm being paranoid or if there really is still something I need to work on. Thanks for any feedback!
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/5a8048b5095ad01c06f510e3e06b0ea5/tumblr_nhghmyXq7X1s659t7o1_1280.jpg)
You're being paranoid because all I see is 100% female.
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Thank you all very much for your responses. It makes me feel a lot better. <3
Quote from: sonson on December 31, 2014, 11:31:06 AM
I say keep doing what you're doing and growing out that hair!
also, Im a big fan of the minimal make up look, as opposed to your avatar pic :)
Thank you Sonson,
I understand and my hair will continue to grow. I've all ready got another 2 weeks of hair since that picture.
As for my old profile photo: it was taken at a windy rest stop in Arizona. I do love my statement lipstick, but it really makes the red in my skin stand out. I've read that the new trend for next year will be pink/nude lip colors. I think I'm going to pick up a new color soon.
-Alana
Guys, if you quote someones pictures and they then delete them you ought to at least remove the image from the quotes. They have deleted it for a reason!
Quote from: ClaraJo on December 31, 2014, 04:33:46 PM
For some reason you have to right-click the images and open them in a new tab fiiirst.
Pre-HRT pre-errythang, I'm shy ;_;.
You got a lot of good features to start off with I think :)
Thought I would upload something myself ._. , since I could use some honest critique.
Pre-everything and especially nervous now
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah307%2FLuna15564%2FWP_20141225_13_09_38_Pro.jpg&hash=6e60ea775a09ac0e67dfd854f777135123447cbf)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah307%2FLuna15564%2FWP_20141225_13_08_29_Pro.jpg&hash=7411ce00f8dad9a004254f0288ef66dd5f345282)
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So what you all think :-\ ?
Quote from: Luna Star on January 01, 2015, 04:38:30 AM
Thought I would upload something myself ._. , since I could use some honest critique.
Pre-everything and especially nervous now
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah307%2FLuna15564%2FWP_20141225_13_09_38_Pro.jpg&hash=6e60ea775a09ac0e67dfd854f777135123447cbf)
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So what you all think :-\ ?
Honestly i thought that you might have already started hormones lol. You have a really cute soft face (love the dimples in the bottom pic). You also have no facial hair what so ever. And a super feminine chin. You will pass no prob with hormones. congrats beautiful!
Aside from that praise i think some brow trimming could work wonders on you.
Quote from: amber roskamp on January 01, 2015, 08:15:39 AM
Honestly i thought that you might have already started hormones lol. You have a really cute soft face (love the dimples in the bottom pic). You also have no facial hair what so ever. And a super feminine chin. You will pass no prob with hormones. congrats beautiful!
Aside from that praise i think some brow trimming could work wonders on you.
ditto
Quote from: amber roskamp on January 01, 2015, 08:15:39 AM
Honestly i thought that you might have already started hormones lol. You have a really cute soft face (love the dimples in the bottom pic). You also have no facial hair what so ever. And a super feminine chin. You will pass no prob with hormones. congrats beautiful!
Aside from that praise i think some brow trimming could work wonders on you.
Eheh... I do have facial hair too much as well...
But a lil bit knowledge about makeup does wonders
Alright, time to being updates on myself.
This was from yesterday going en femme.
I'm close to three months but holy crap has hormones been changing my body.
The face though, needs more time (and a wrecking ball XD)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi18.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb101%2Ftrinirich2006%2FIMG_20141231_160247831_zpsc315773c.jpg&hash=fbd3ca92bcc6774f286c7d37c8d2c09f7e8ff186)
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Aside from my face, REALLY REALLY proud of my feminine frame. Thoughts? :D
Quote from: mandyh92 on December 31, 2014, 03:15:48 PM
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How do I look in this one? brutal honesty appreciated.
You'll make one fine BBW... btw I'm married to a BBW. We come in all shapes and sizes.
Quote from: ClaraJo on December 31, 2014, 04:33:46 PM
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxwEVMdUddrTSDNVbllNZkZoUkVLcDlCUXJUaTkxZjZnZ1FR/view?usp=sharing)
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxwEVMdUddrTaFFISEpSTEh4bzNzU1JNWF9BazlzdWlRRHBZ/view?usp=sharing)
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxwEVMdUddrTcnZLdU1Jbnh5WURiSTFnbENmZFBlLTlCSlpN/view?usp=sharing)
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxwEVMdUddrTcVhQa253cnVTZGFvUVBUUDJDbzg0QmlZQ1JJ/view?usp=sharing)
For some reason you have to right-click the images and open them in a new tab fiiirst.
Pre-HRT pre-errythang, I'm shy ;_;.
Clara,
I too used my google+ account. I had to set permission to share the photo, then I right clicked and selected the copy photo url option (the link ended in .jpg) then placed it in the image link like you did.
You remind me of how I looked during my teen years. Oh, how I wished I'd transitioned then.
-Alana
Quote from: Luna Star on January 01, 2015, 04:38:30 AM
Thought I would upload something myself ._. , since I could use some honest critique.
Pre-everything and especially nervous now
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah307%2FLuna15564%2FWP_20141225_13_09_38_Pro.jpg&hash=6e60ea775a09ac0e67dfd854f777135123447cbf)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah307%2FLuna15564%2FWP_20141225_13_08_29_Pro.jpg&hash=7411ce00f8dad9a004254f0288ef66dd5f345282)
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So what you all think :-\ ?
Thank you for your sweet words, but honestly I'm kinda mad at you now for revealing how beautiful you are. :laugh:
You look super feminine already, and I'd prolly mistake you for just a very flatchested girl, and even without that you're an extremely beautiful person, gendered or not. ;)
#jealous
Quote from: Alana_Jane on January 01, 2015, 03:24:34 PM
Clara,
I too used my google+ account. I had to set permission to share the photo, then I right clicked and selected the copy photo url option (the link ended in .jpg) then placed it in the image link like you did.
You remind me of how I looked during my teen years. Oh, how I wished I'd transitioned then.
-Alana
Aww yes, thank you Alana.
&That doesn't sound inaccurate, you have a lot of the facial features the women on my father's side of the family do (which is a good thing!); also, I wish I had transitioned when I first started feeling like I was different but didn't want to say anything -_-, I wish I were braver sooner.
Hey everyone! Sorta scared, but here goes! Hair is still really short :embarrassed:! And for some reason, the lighting is kinda funky and I feel like its sorta giving me some extra beard shadow, but its really no where near that dark (I promise!).
Anyhow, any/all opinions appreciated! Thanks!
(Click pic to enlarge)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1382.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah248%2Fkaleychica%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsfb42fa65.jpg&hash=c645552f300df2743ebb2d47204b72d4dc837677) (http://s1382.photobucket.com/user/kaleychica/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsfb42fa65.jpg.html)
Some details about the pic/myself:
- HRT for around 6 months now
- No makeup at all
- Brows not shaped at all
- Height: 5 ft 8 in
- Weight: 165 lbs (currently dieting...goal is 145 lbs)
Quote from: Kaley on January 01, 2015, 04:36:39 PM
Hey everyone! Sorta scared, but here goes! Hair is still really short :embarrassed:! And for some reason, the lighting is kinda funky and I feel like its sorta giving me some extra beard shadow, but its really no where near that dark (I promise!).
Anyhow, any/all opinions appreciated! Thanks!
(Click pic to enlarge)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1382.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah248%2Fkaleychica%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsfb42fa65.jpg&hash=c645552f300df2743ebb2d47204b72d4dc837677) (http://s1382.photobucket.com/user/kaleychica/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsfb42fa65.jpg.html)
Some details about the pic/myself:
- HRT for around 6 months now
- No makeup at all
- Brows not shaped at all
- Height: 5 ft 8 in
- Weight: 165 lbs (currently dieting...goal is 145 lbs)
The body definitely helps I'd say. Shape the brows and you'd be surprised how well you pass.
ditto
Quote from: ImagineKate on January 01, 2015, 04:37:59 PM
The body definitely helps I'd say. Shape the brows and you'd be surprised how well you pass.
Yea, that will def help...just can't fully shape them since it will most likely give me away pretty easily at work, but I am going "refine" them a little haha..whatever that means...it's probably just what I will say if asked about my brows when in guy mode.
Quote from: Kaley on January 01, 2015, 04:48:47 PM
Yea, that will def help...just can't fully shape them since it will most likely give me away pretty easily at work, but I am going "refine" them a little haha..whatever that means...it's probably just what I will say if asked about my brows when in guy mode.
Honestly you'd be surprised how few people would notice or say anything, especially if you shaped them gradually. Mine used to be like hairy caterpillars balanced on my forehead before they were tamed.
Quote from: Leila on January 01, 2015, 04:53:27 PM
Honestly you'd be surprised how few people would notice or say anything, especially if you shaped them gradually. Mine used to be like hairy caterpillars balanced on my forehead before they were tamed.
Haha, so true...I feel like the only thing people have really commented on is how my face looks so smooth now and it looks like I wear makeup. Eye brows are definitely something I've been planning on doing for a little while now so I will definitely gradually shape them over the coming days/months.
Thanks!
Can someone help me how to upload pictures to the site? I'm looking for a way to upload but I don't know how.
@Kaley, I feel like you will pass given more time on hormones along with shaping your eyebrows and a girlier hairstyle. Your upper body looks a bit broad though and I feel your shirt with horizontal stripes emphazises this. Shirts with vertical stripes will make your body look slimmer, especially the shoulders, it's the more important area, I think.
@LunaStar, you are very pretty already and you have such soft features. I think with HRT you will pass wonderfully.
Quote from: Trini on January 01, 2015, 03:04:48 PMI'm close to three months but holy crap has hormones been changing my body.
. . .
Aside from my face, REALLY REALLY proud of my feminine frame. Thoughts? :D
Yeah, for two months on hormones, your body really is at "holy crap" levels. Boobs like that already? Wow - you should be proud!
From the shoulders up . . . I don't see your face as the problem. It's the flat cap and the glasses - to me, they're extremely masculine. Could you ditch the hat, or at least find one that's designed for a girl your age rather than a man of seventy? ;) The glasses, they obscure so much of your face, and again they aren't a particularly feminine style. I can't see your eyes properly, and with a little bold makeup on the eyes, anyone can look decidedly feminine. Even me. Stop hiding yourself - you're far more beautiful than you think!
(Do you have your ears pierced?)
Quote from: Trini on January 01, 2015, 03:04:48 PM
Alright, time to being updates on myself.
This was from yesterday going en femme.
I'm close to three months but holy crap has hormones been changing my body.
The face though, needs more time (and a wrecking ball XD)
Aside from my face, REALLY REALLY proud of my feminine frame. Thoughts? :D
Yeah, you do have a great body going on. That's a huge positive. I would echo Brenda's sentiments about the hat and glasses. They really do give you an 'old man' vibe and need to go. If you face shape is bothering you then try some wigs with different cuts to see what kind of hairstyle compliments your face. Then you can have an idea of what to shoot for with your natural hair.
Quote from: ClaraJo on January 01, 2015, 04:25:57 PM
Thank you for your sweet words, but honestly I'm kinda mad at you now for revealing how beautiful you are. :laugh:
You look super feminine already, and I'd prolly mistake you for just a very flatchested girl, and even without that you're an extremely beautiful person, gendered or not. ;)
#jealous
W-wow thank you for those sweet words ^^
I totally didn't expect this feedback
My skin isn't soft or whatever but makeup.helps... A lot
Besides you shouldnt get jealous when you got a beautiful face of your own
:D
How can i upload my photo to share.Love to know your opinions as much giving others :)
Hi everyone! Really nervous about this but here we go anyway. I'm not always very confident in myself and don't feel like I look very good. :-\ Let me know your thoughts.
Thanks!
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7583/16167432241_28f66fd5d0_n.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7488/15983532637_4fd235dfd5_n.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7564/16167431331_f78b589d9d_n.jpg)
You can't upload directly to the site, but if you upload to an image sharing site such as photobucket, imageshack or imagur you can copy the direct link from there and in a new post format the line as follows:
[ img]<the link of your photo from the image hosting site>[ /img] (minus the space in the square brackets)
Quote from: Leila on January 01, 2015, 06:24:35 PM
You can't upload directly to the site, but if you upload to an image sharing site such as photobucket, imageshack or imagur you can copy the direct link from there and in a new post format the line as follows:
[ img]<the link of your photo from the image hosting site>[ /img] (minus the space in the square brackets)
Okay, thank you sooo much! :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FMNs2w7E.jpg&hash=cd011d8231517ad039feff6a057ca47530cac454)
My eyebrows are being plucked, not on HRT yet, letting my hair grow it, it's getting curly, it's annoying, lol!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FVHW5uZr.jpg&hash=90952c517c170c3fb030ce468eb3647e9c6cddea)
My profile. I hate my nose and forehead, ughhhh. My forehead is kinda sloped, ugh, dunno if it's bossing or just slope but I don't like it.
EDIT: Thank you so much girls, it works now! :)
Quote from: Auroramarianna on January 01, 2015, 06:37:59 PM
Okay, thank you sooo much! :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FMNs2w7E.jpg&hash=cd011d8231517ad039feff6a057ca47530cac454)
My eyebrows are being plucked, not on HRT yet, letting my hair grow it, it's getting curly, it's annoying, lol!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FVHW5uZr.jpg&hash=90952c517c170c3fb030ce468eb3647e9c6cddea)
My profile. I hate my nose and forehead, ughhhh. My forehead is kinda sloped, ugh, dunno if it's bossing or just slope but I don't like it.
EDIT: For some reason, my pics don't appear, I feel so ridiculous now. :(
Let your hair grow longer and you'll look fine
-Alana
Quote from: Auroramarianna on January 01, 2015, 06:37:59 PM
Okay, thank you sooo much! :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FMNs2w7E&hash=339295e2b568cac9716f3cee3000200ec037fb34)
My eyebrows are being plucked, not on HRT yet, letting my hair grow it, it's getting curly, it's annoying, lol!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FVHW5uZr&hash=4ef02a60ae1fc79c6e8dd5ed65adbaeb1dd8b1ab)
My profile. I hate my nose and forehead, ughhhh. My forehead is kinda sloped, ugh, dunno if it's bossing or just slope but I don't like it.
EDIT: For some reason, my pics don't appear, I feel so ridiculous now. :(
i think you need to add the .jpg extension in the link like so...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVHW5uZr.jpg&hash=39bfc5b7c7d66fed1fa5b5bfa20a0e46cff97aba)
Quote from: Luna Star on January 01, 2015, 06:10:53 PM
W-wow thank you for those sweet words ^^
I totally didn't expect this feedback
My skin isn't soft or whatever but makeup.helps... A lot
Besides you shouldnt get jealous when you got a beautiful face of your own
:D
Aww thank you you're so nicee, and it's no problem. :laugh:
Quote from: mellynn88 on January 01, 2015, 06:22:47 PM
Hi everyone! Really nervous about this but here we go anyway. I'm not always very confident in myself and don't feel like I look very good. :-\ Let me know your thoughts.
Thanks!
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7583/16167432241_28f66fd5d0_n.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7488/15983532637_4fd235dfd5_n.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7564/16167431331_f78b589d9d_n.jpg)
You look great. Love the glasses and the hairstyle. You look really cute and have a beautiful smile.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: Brenda E on January 01, 2015, 05:38:37 PM
Yeah, for two months on hormones, your body really is at "holy crap" levels. Boobs like that already? Wow - you should be proud!
From the shoulders up . . . I don't see your face as the problem. It's the flat cap and the glasses - to me, they're extremely masculine. Could you ditch the hat, or at least find one that's designed for a girl your age rather than a man of seventy? ;) The glasses, they obscure so much of your face, and again they aren't a particularly feminine style. I can't see your eyes properly, and with a little bold makeup on the eyes, anyone can look decidedly feminine. Even me. Stop hiding yourself - you're far more beautiful than you think!
(Do you have your ears pierced?)
Aww but I love wearing the hat and glasses. :shrug:
I love wearing the dorky look, but that's just me. :p
No piercings (yet).
Here's a facial shot from last Sunday.
12/28/14 - Wk12 Day77
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi18.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb101%2Ftrinirich2006%2FWk12Day7712-28-14_zps7e957c55.jpg&hash=c7a77914f55a9c48e9a31d702ba1dc0c65c699c1)
I'm looking into makeup and covering my facial hair and one I get good at that, I can experiment more.
I do have plans for Laser, just need to get funds together.
For me, my face is the weakest point, I feel.
My body is coming together nicely. I'll post update shots on my third month anniversary.
Quote from: Alana_Jane on January 01, 2015, 03:20:03 PM
You'll make one fine BBW... btw I'm married to a BBW. We come in all shapes and sizes.
I am actually 2 almost 3 years post-op, what issues do you see that keep getting me clocked at times i wont even leave the house for months on end because it is becoming so much of an issue. When i was thin people told me to gain some weight and that that would cover and make it harder for people to tell.
Quote from: mandyh92 on January 01, 2015, 11:19:50 PM
I am actually 2 almost 3 years post-op, what issues do you see that keep getting me clocked at times i wont even leave the house for months on end because it is becoming so much of an issue. When i was thin people told me to gain some weight and that that would cover and make it harder for people to tell.
Oh honey,
I'm sorry if you think I was clocking you. I've looked hard, and can't find anything that's would tell me you're not a woman, Mandy.
As an aside how about your profile picture? How long ago was that taken?
-Alana
Quote from: Auroramarianna on January 01, 2015, 06:37:59 PM
Okay, thank you sooo much! :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FMNs2w7E.jpg&hash=cd011d8231517ad039feff6a057ca47530cac454)
My eyebrows are being plucked, not on HRT yet, letting my hair grow it, it's getting curly, it's annoying, lol!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FVHW5uZr.jpg&hash=90952c517c170c3fb030ce468eb3647e9c6cddea)
My profile. I hate my nose and forehead, ughhhh. My forehead is kinda sloped, ugh, dunno if it's bossing or just slope but I don't like it.
EDIT: Thank you so much girls, it works now! :)
I don't really see much "wrong" and the eyebrows change a lot and so will the longer hair
For the profile your forehead is kinda sloped but that doesnt make it less feminine to me :)
Quote from: Alana_Jane on January 01, 2015, 11:40:28 PM
Oh honey,
I'm sorry if you think I was clocking you. I've looked hard, and can't find anything that's would tell me you're not a woman, Mandy.
As an aside how about your profile picture? How long ago was that taken?
-Alana
Profile picture was four years ago other picture posted was 3 or 4 days ago. I didn't think that at all I am just constantly struggling to fix what is wrong so instead of wondering if those people behind me in the movie are laughing at me or he movie I can just enjoy the movie.... this stress is really getting out of control for me that is all. I am still looking for voldamorts wand so everything will be perfect(harrys was broke)
Okay so I am struggling with seeing my self as feminine, which I am sure everyone here does.. I still feel like I can be easily clocked with make up on. It goes in waves in terms of how I feel about it.
Here are some photos:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F176_zpsedcd777a.jpg&hash=2a2655b3c30c71633e3cecee03a1d12e4f048d07) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/176_zpsedcd777a.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F171_zpsee802827.jpg&hash=20f56e41f97dc1e715f8bbb360cc9f2e6a540fbe) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/171_zpsee802827.jpg.html)
(i know I should get more feminine glasses, its in the works :P)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F168_zps7902f1df.jpg&hash=20c1f5cf656ac6022af6f6e6c84aaaf31d78bab3) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/168_zps7902f1df.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F101_zps36a48cbc.jpg&hash=7fc790c7ed190475aed8b46c011ac842f6726378) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/101_zps36a48cbc.jpg.html)
I feel like my nose/profile really gives me away.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F048_zpsdbf49ae3.jpg&hash=93a0a374eb3324fdc64bca692dac1d0e3f598a68) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/048_zpsdbf49ae3.jpg.html)
(no boobs)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F191_zps230895a2.jpg&hash=25376efc92fa68324443e7f854b03c11edd01b7a) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/191_zps230895a2.jpg.html)
I feel like this photo makes me look very masculine. I think its my jawline... its very harsh. I don't know if I like my sharp features.
Any sort of suggestions or ways I can help to feminize my face? Thanks you guys and sorry for the amount of photos, I just wanted to give a good idea of what I look like.
Quote from: Cole 1994 on January 02, 2015, 12:05:44 PM
Okay so I am struggling with seeing my self as feminine, which I am sure everyone here does.. I still feel like I can be easily clocked with make up on. It goes in waves in terms of how I feel about it.
Here are some photos:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F176_zpsedcd777a.jpg&hash=2a2655b3c30c71633e3cecee03a1d12e4f048d07) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/176_zpsedcd777a.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F171_zpsee802827.jpg&hash=20f56e41f97dc1e715f8bbb360cc9f2e6a540fbe) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/171_zpsee802827.jpg.html)
(i know I should get more feminine glasses, its in the works :P)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F168_zps7902f1df.jpg&hash=20c1f5cf656ac6022af6f6e6c84aaaf31d78bab3) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/168_zps7902f1df.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F101_zps36a48cbc.jpg&hash=7fc790c7ed190475aed8b46c011ac842f6726378) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/101_zps36a48cbc.jpg.html)
I feel like my nose/profile really gives me away.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F048_zpsdbf49ae3.jpg&hash=93a0a374eb3324fdc64bca692dac1d0e3f598a68) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/048_zpsdbf49ae3.jpg.html)
(no boobs)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F191_zps230895a2.jpg&hash=25376efc92fa68324443e7f854b03c11edd01b7a) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/191_zps230895a2.jpg.html)
I feel like this photo makes me look very masculine. I think its my jawline... its very harsh. I don't know if I like my sharp features.
Any sort of suggestions or ways I can help to feminize my face? Thanks you guys and sorry for the amount of photos, I just wanted to give a good idea of what I look like.
I think your glasses are your worse problem
Quote from: Cole 1994 on January 02, 2015, 12:05:44 PM
Okay so I am struggling with seeing my self as feminine, which I am sure everyone here does.. I still feel like I can be easily clocked with make up on. It goes in waves in terms of how I feel about it.
I feel like my nose/profile really gives me away.
(no boobs)
I feel like this photo makes me look very masculine. I think its my jawline... its very harsh. I don't know if I like my sharp features.
Any sort of suggestions or ways I can help to feminize my face? Thanks you guys and sorry for the amount of photos, I just wanted to give a good idea of what I look like.
I think you already look feminine. I do not see any problem in your jawline.
Your fashion sense is certainly adorable.
barbie~~
Not sure what to make of this one. Just a quick snap at home (home with the kids today), no makeup. I can see a little rounding of the edges with HRT, but the shadow is killing me.
Certainly seemed good enough for the UPS guy to call me "miss" lol. (maybe because I was wearing a dress)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1188.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz403%2Frjairam%2FC76A2115-1644-487D-A999-05E3ECC93BA4_zpsmefatyuh.jpg&hash=97836047b4aea27e1fc85b86f34f334f7d6b621b) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/user/rjairam/media/C76A2115-1644-487D-A999-05E3ECC93BA4_zpsmefatyuh.jpg.html)
Really hate the glasses too, they totally kill my face. Going to get new ones.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1188.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz403%2Frjairam%2F56EA7CD0-D789-42E7-B471-1AA94F757EE4_zpsudfebzj4.jpg&hash=26a5b3cc14504357ddf710f6e0aed4e65f2209f3) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/user/rjairam/media/56EA7CD0-D789-42E7-B471-1AA94F757EE4_zpsudfebzj4.jpg.html)
Quote from: ImagineKate on January 02, 2015, 03:26:48 PM
Not sure what to make of this one. Just a quick snap at home (home with the kids today), no makeup. I can see a little rounding of the edges with HRT, but the shadow is killing me.
Certainly seemed good enough for the UPS guy to call me "miss" lol. (maybe because I was wearing a dress)
Really hate the glasses too, they totally kill my face. Going to get new ones.
I think you look feminine! I think your hair cut is very cute.. the glasses are not very good for your face, but you said you were getting new ones so that's good. The shadow isn't too much, its just a small thing. Its not super eye drawing to me. I think you look great!
Quote from: mandyh92 on January 02, 2015, 10:29:01 AM
Profile picture was four years ago other picture posted was 3 or 4 days ago. I didn't think that at all I am just constantly struggling to fix what is wrong so instead of wondering if those people behind me in the movie are laughing at me or he movie I can just enjoy the movie.... this stress is really getting out of control for me that is all. I am still looking for voldamorts wand so everything will be perfect(harrys was broke)
Hey I know that story, we have the books and the movies. I so like the book ending better- He used the wand of invincibility to fix his own, then... well that's enough of a spoiler.
As for the little hits to our self confidence, have you tried a diary? It's one of the projects my therapist has recommended, that and a list to remind ourselves how fabulous we are, and that haters don't matter. After my therapy I went to the mall. While walking out I heard a random guy mutter "fruit" under his breath... Actually, a few years ago I might have done that as well, so I have to let it go. Work on loving yourself, you are unique, special, and deserve it.
-Alana
Quote from: Cole 1994 on January 02, 2015, 04:44:48 PM
I think you look feminine! I think your hair cut is very cute.. the glasses are not very good for your face, but you said you were getting new ones so that's good. The shadow isn't too much, its just a small thing. Its not super eye drawing to me. I think you look great!
Thanks Cole!
The shadow is actually pretty bad. Not so much how bad it looks but how fast it grows. Electrolysis is helping keep it under control and I suspect within the next 10 years I'll have a completely clear face. :( Actually my electrologist said within about a year or two... we will see. I might end up doing some laser too.
The hair is growing in at a nice pace. I am hoping by summer when I plan to go FT I should have a decent-ish length.
I don't know how to use this forum much. I was wondering the same, how do you post a picture though?
Quote from: Cole 1994 on January 02, 2015, 12:05:44 PM
Okay so I am struggling with seeing my self as feminine, which I am sure everyone here does.. I still feel like I can be easily clocked with make up on. It goes in waves in terms of how I feel about it.
I think you look great, i would never have second guessed unless I was on here reading your post. I think you should definately buy girl glasses since your definately not a boy! And keep up the good with your transition.
Here are some photos:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F176_zpsedcd777a.jpg&hash=2a2655b3c30c71633e3cecee03a1d12e4f048d07) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/176_zpsedcd777a.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F171_zpsee802827.jpg&hash=20f56e41f97dc1e715f8bbb360cc9f2e6a540fbe) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/171_zpsee802827.jpg.html)
(i know I should get more feminine glasses, its in the works :P)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F168_zps7902f1df.jpg&hash=20c1f5cf656ac6022af6f6e6c84aaaf31d78bab3) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/168_zps7902f1df.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F101_zps36a48cbc.jpg&hash=7fc790c7ed190475aed8b46c011ac842f6726378) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/101_zps36a48cbc.jpg.html)
I feel like my nose/profile really gives me away.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F048_zpsdbf49ae3.jpg&hash=93a0a374eb3324fdc64bca692dac1d0e3f598a68) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/048_zpsdbf49ae3.jpg.html)
(no boobs)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F191_zps230895a2.jpg&hash=25376efc92fa68324443e7f854b03c11edd01b7a) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/191_zps230895a2.jpg.html)
I feel like this photo makes me look very masculine. I think its my jawline... its very harsh. I don't know if I like my sharp features.
Any sort of suggestions or ways I can help to feminize my face? Thanks you guys and sorry for the amount of photos, I just wanted to give a good idea of what I look like.
Quote from: ssneha23 on November 18, 2014, 09:46:18 AM
I am thinking if getting rid of my wig. I am in the process of growing my hair. Do you think it's fine for me to lose the wig...
Yeah it's time to lose the wig you look 100% female!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1290.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb531%2Fssnehagupta23%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FIMG_20141117_165920_1416323449435_zpsdudt5cac.jpg&hash=7d09882ece0a6c609d4fbcb2bb1a156a407bf1e3) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/ssnehagupta23/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141117_165920_1416323449435_zpsdudt5cac.jpg.html)
Quote from: Cole 1994 on January 02, 2015, 12:05:44 PM
Okay so I am struggling with seeing my self as feminine, which I am sure everyone here does.. I still feel like I can be easily clocked with make up on. It goes in waves in terms of how I feel about it.
Here are some photos:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F176_zpsedcd777a.jpg&hash=2a2655b3c30c71633e3cecee03a1d12e4f048d07) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/176_zpsedcd777a.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F171_zpsee802827.jpg&hash=20f56e41f97dc1e715f8bbb360cc9f2e6a540fbe) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/171_zpsee802827.jpg.html)
(i know I should get more feminine glasses, its in the works :P)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F168_zps7902f1df.jpg&hash=20c1f5cf656ac6022af6f6e6c84aaaf31d78bab3) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/168_zps7902f1df.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F101_zps36a48cbc.jpg&hash=7fc790c7ed190475aed8b46c011ac842f6726378) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/101_zps36a48cbc.jpg.html)
I feel like my nose/profile really gives me away.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F048_zpsdbf49ae3.jpg&hash=93a0a374eb3324fdc64bca692dac1d0e3f598a68) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/048_zpsdbf49ae3.jpg.html)
(no boobs)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F191_zps230895a2.jpg&hash=25376efc92fa68324443e7f854b03c11edd01b7a) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/191_zps230895a2.jpg.html)
I feel like this photo makes me look very masculine. I think its my jawline... its very harsh. I don't know if I like my sharp features.
Any sort of suggestions or ways I can help to feminize my face? Thanks you guys and sorry for the amount of photos, I just wanted to give a good idea of what I look like.
You're being far too harsh on yourself, honestly. You don't look unfeminine to me, you just have very specific and defined features.
Being distinguishable and being masculine are 2 different things. I think you look rather nice :)
Quote from: Cole 1994 on January 02, 2015, 12:05:44 PM
Okay so I am struggling with seeing my self as feminine, which I am sure everyone here does.. I still feel like I can be easily clocked with make up on. It goes in waves in terms of how I feel about it.
Here are some photos:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F176_zpsedcd777a.jpg&hash=2a2655b3c30c71633e3cecee03a1d12e4f048d07) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/176_zpsedcd777a.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F171_zpsee802827.jpg&hash=20f56e41f97dc1e715f8bbb360cc9f2e6a540fbe) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/171_zpsee802827.jpg.html)
(i know I should get more feminine glasses, its in the works :P)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F168_zps7902f1df.jpg&hash=20c1f5cf656ac6022af6f6e6c84aaaf31d78bab3) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/168_zps7902f1df.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F101_zps36a48cbc.jpg&hash=7fc790c7ed190475aed8b46c011ac842f6726378) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/101_zps36a48cbc.jpg.html)
I feel like my nose/profile really gives me away.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F048_zpsdbf49ae3.jpg&hash=93a0a374eb3324fdc64bca692dac1d0e3f598a68) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/048_zpsdbf49ae3.jpg.html)
(no boobs)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah188%2Fcocokitty93%2F191_zps230895a2.jpg&hash=25376efc92fa68324443e7f854b03c11edd01b7a) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/cocokitty93/media/191_zps230895a2.jpg.html)
I feel like this photo makes me look very masculine. I think its my jawline... its very harsh. I don't know if I like my sharp features.
Any sort of suggestions or ways I can help to feminize my face? Thanks you guys and sorry for the amount of photos, I just wanted to give a good idea of what I look like.
you look 100% female. :) Totally passable.
Quote from: Billie97470 on January 02, 2015, 10:13:15 PM
I don't know how to use this forum much. I was wondering the same, how do you post a picture though?
You need a photo hosting site like photobucket, imgur, etc
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo188%2Fbillie97470%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2F200516E9-EAD5-4134-BB78-3EDED3A04383_zps5drmqcra.jpg&hash=5edc6edf16c6ede276cbff8a67e2bf6a0035cf13)
So I'm wondering about bieng pre anything if I have a chance...
Quote from: V M on January 03, 2015, 02:32:03 AM
You need a photo hosting site like photobucket, imgur, etc
Thanks a lot for the help
Quote from: Billie97470 on January 03, 2015, 02:56:26 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo188%2Fbillie97470%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2F200516E9-EAD5-4134-BB78-3EDED3A04383_zps5drmqcra.jpg&hash=5edc6edf16c6ede276cbff8a67e2bf6a0035cf13)
So I'm wondering about bieng pre anything if I have a chance...
Lol, love the puppy dog eyes, you are so adorable <3.
Yes, you do. :)
Quote from: ClaraJo on January 03, 2015, 03:03:54 AM
Lol, love the puppy dog eyes, you are so adorable <3.
Yes, you do. :)
Well before I start hrt I wanna get braces or Invisalign going, electrolysis and maybe I can get a doctor to fix my broken nose if I complain I can't breath because a deviated septum. I am kinda self conscious... I have to wait till May for braces so I'm saving up for electrolysis as well and I started doing some leg, abs and butt workouts everyday to help with my figure. Thanks for the supportive opinion.
I know I can pass in jeans and a top and that is what I wear when I go out and about. But this is a tough one for me yes it has a lot to do with what is between the ears but still. What do we think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy534%2Fimmortalgypsy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20150104_000905_zps68fd82de.jpg&hash=98adedd19f1000d4fad8d293f731a5003bee259c)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy534%2Fimmortalgypsy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20150104_000848_zps17edac15.jpg&hash=145363f8145e9d20c56d69fe377d44778447cadc)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy534%2Fimmortalgypsy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20150104_000800_zps6a29c96a.jpg&hash=a361ebcd06c633ec3950d508b099230b6fa4ba9b)
Have tried to give a picture of myself in a skirt. Sorry that it's in parts I so need a full body mirror
Quote from: immortal gypsy on January 03, 2015, 07:25:51 AM
I know I can pass in jeans and a top and that is what I wear when I go out and about. But this is a tough one for me yes it has a lot to do with what is between the ears but still. What do we think?
Have tried to give a picture of myself in a skirt. Sorry that it's in parts I so need a full body mirror
I understand the apprehension, a skirt feels like a big step up from wearing pants. for what its worth though, I think it looks really cute on you! :)
Quote from: immortal gypsy on January 03, 2015, 07:25:51 AM(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy534%2Fimmortalgypsy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20150104_000848_zps17edac15.jpg&hash=145363f8145e9d20c56d69fe377d44778447cadc)
Be careful standing on the edge of the bathtub to take lower leg photos. I've tried that in heels once - couldn't see them otherwise - and ended up slipping. ;)
Quote from: immortal gypsy on January 03, 2015, 07:25:51 AM
I know I can pass in jeans and a top and that is what I wear when I go out and about. But this is a tough one for me yes it has a lot to do with what is between the ears but still. What do we think?
If you know you pass in jeans then why not a skirt? Youve already made the transition... I think you just need to go shopping! personally I don't like denim much other than for jeans, so I would be bias to say anything because i think jean jackets skirts whatever are tacky and painful to look at. It suites you though just fine you look 100% legit to me.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy534%2Fimmortalgypsy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20150104_000905_zps68fd82de.jpg&hash=98adedd19f1000d4fad8d293f731a5003bee259c)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy534%2Fimmortalgypsy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20150104_000848_zps17edac15.jpg&hash=145363f8145e9d20c56d69fe377d44778447cadc)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy534%2Fimmortalgypsy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20150104_000800_zps6a29c96a.jpg&hash=a361ebcd06c633ec3950d508b099230b6fa4ba9b)
Have tried to give a picture of myself in a skirt. Sorry that it's in parts I so need a full body mirror
ok this is what i got so far, pre hrt and all, i think theres definately room for improvement
and i will be starting hrt as soon as i get an appt set up
i hope i got the pic posting ri
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah192%2Fkaceymay66%2Funnamed_zps8ecb4833.jpg&hash=44f0dedc0bfc8eeab985d010434cd516fbc13f9f) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/kaceymay66/media/unnamed_zps8ecb4833.jpg.html)
Quote from: kacey on January 03, 2015, 04:11:04 PM
ok this is what i got so far, pre hrt and all, i think theres definately room for improvement
and i will be starting hrt as soon as i get an appt set up
i hope i got the pic posting right
http://<http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/kaceymay66/media/unnamed_zps8ecb4833.jpg.html>[/img]
There is an option in photobucket to generate an IMG link. Use that.
Like this:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1188.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz403%2Frjairam%2Finstructions_zps2f0889b3.png&hash=d86f6e694fa25f2837038b2f675005fe53d666dd) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/user/rjairam/media/instructions_zps2f0889b3.png.html)
Quote from: kacey on January 03, 2015, 04:11:04 PM
ok this is what i got so far, pre hrt and all, i think theres definately room for improvement
and i will be starting hrt as soon as i get an appt set up
i hope i got the pic posting ri
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah192%2Fkaceymay66%2Funnamed_zps8ecb4833.jpg&hash=44f0dedc0bfc8eeab985d010434cd516fbc13f9f) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/kaceymay66/media/unnamed_zps8ecb4833.jpg.html)
You're really not bad pre HRT... presentation is everything and you seem to be doing good in that department.
@ billie. Yes people are seeing me as female, but I'm a little afraid because in jeans and a top I'm super comfortable and passing is mostly about what's between the ears. I would like the option of wearing a skirt occasionally on our hot days, that's why I'm asking do I pass.
You're not the first to say they don't like demin skirts or jackets until they see them on me.
@ cole 1994. In that outfit (I like it, it looks good on you) the glasses are not terrible. More feminine glasses will help when you wear more andro feminine clothing. But you said that's in the works, (shopping for glasses can be fun)
Quote from: Danielle Emmalee on November 16, 2014, 09:18:53 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10394854_10153307175869838_1920652698295355077_n.jpg?oh=97773836b5b40540f91f16e6ee98bebf&oe=54E4D17A&__gda__=1428108439_e3891c253b004c02fa38c7fe15b3ef4a)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10805181_10153311017194838_1565147328_n.jpg?oh=427403881e25e3b9e2bda776eda2af0a&oe=546C7851&__gda__=1416397696_238d3a9460e9e1d3a8dddf5348917563)
Gorgeous!!! And yes you pass ;)
https://imageshack.com/my/images
What will I need to pass?I am only 15 and haven't done anything
Quote from: Makenzie on January 04, 2015, 07:57:02 PM
https://imageshack.com/my/images
What will I need to pass?I am only 15 and haven't done anything
Sorry Makenzie, but your images are not showing up. Be sure to link the entire path to the images including the .jpg extension.
Jade
:P
Dang,I don't know how
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img538/2876/JXSZUv.jpg
Quote from: Makenzie on January 04, 2015, 08:25:28 PM
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img538/2876/JXSZUv.jpg
Hard to tell from that blurry pic but I think once you get the eyebrows shaped properly you'll be looking great.
Yea,I will do a better one tomorrow.I am way to masculine looking to ever pass :(
Pretty much no one is too masculine looking to *ever* pass. It is just a matter of how much you need to do whether it is a new style, HRT or FFS.
What all do I need to do
Hard to say from that pic tbh. Also it is a bad angle and an angle from below is very rarely flattering anyway. Try and get a clear picture with a straight forward angle if you want any kind of feedback worth anything. A lot can be done though you know without the FFS I mentioned. My face has changed a huge amount on HRT and I have made minimal effort to really change my appearance, other than now having thinned out my eyebrows some, since I already had long hair. You won't know till you do it.
Hello Ladies,
So I got a bit bored tonight and took a selfie without makeup *scared as hell*
be nice about the comments LOL
Much love,
April
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9Vq9S1V.jpg&hash=c68865740fc5db618f12e5b30f6c252b861d6712)
Quote from: carmenkate on January 04, 2015, 11:22:22 PM
Hello Ladies,
So I got a bit bored tonight and took a selfie without makeup *scared as hell*
be nice about the comments LOL
Much love,
April
April
A refreshing change without the make up. You have very good skin. I'd still gender you as female without any make up on. The hair carries and frames your face well.
If you still feel the need to apply it, perhaps it might be worth exploring the notion of very light make up in a future photo? ie A very thin layer of powder foundation, a neutral lipstick, the faintest hint of mascara and the tiniest amount of brow pencil to shape them?
That's a huge compliment coming from you Leila. Thank you my love :) The reason why I had to post this pic is due to some changes I am noticing on my face ever since my endo increased my dosage 3 weeks ago. I felt like the shape of my eyes changed and the features got a bit more softer. Is that normal??
I agree with your suggestion Leila, the less make up the better. I just use bare minerals for my foundation, some mac blush, mascara and lip balm Bam Im done LOL
Hugs
April
Quote from: Leila on January 04, 2015, 11:52:23 PM
April
A refreshing change without the make up. You have very good skin. I'd still gender you as female without any make up on. The hair carries and frames your face well.
If you still feel the need to apply it, perhaps it might be worth exploring the notion of very light make up in a future photo? ie A very thin layer of powder foundation, a neutral lipstick, the faintest hint of mascara and the tiniest amount of brow pencil to shape them?
Hi all!
I wanted to try posting some pictures again, this time with me actually trying to look feminine :)
I received very positive responses last time which Im very grateful for. It was a pleasant surprise since I cant help but focus on my flaws.
again, Im pre-everything. I only tied my hair back and used a little mascara
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWElfnK2l.jpg&hash=e9a2f4ef0738583fe6f76aefd737705b75849105)
my smile tends to change the shape of my face somewhat, it pulls my cheeks out and my mouth upwards, making my chin appear bigger
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ft7Nuzdcl.jpg&hash=01efbc1c87c81553670f72449367e4c17ae3e92a)
I know my eyebrows could use some trimming, and I'd eventually like to get FFS to reduce my brow ridge (since i think thats pretty important gender-wise), but what about the chin? do you think its a problem, or is that more of a vanity thing and less of a gender thing?
any tips I can get are greatly appreciated!
also, what kind of facial changes can you expect from HRT? I dont expect much but Im curious. (ive heard it can clear up acne, is this true?? thatd be a nice bonus)
April, I would have to agree with you. Your face has changed in the last few weeks. Softer features all the way around. You looked feminine before, but somehow this is A LOT more feminine. Also, I love you with the dark hair. Somehow, it just fits your face a lot better and is more natural.
Gwen, give HRT at least a year or so before you decide what to do. I think that you're fortunate that you're starting with a face that's somewhat androgynous.
HRT will probably fill in your cheeks somewhat and soften your lower jaw. Sometimes, even the biggest male chins seem to disappear from importance once HRT does its thing. As for your brow bossing, once you get your brows trimmed to "female" norms and have some eye liner, that may indeed not be a problem, either. Again, I would recommend you wait on HRT and get some "training" in makeup (a makeover at Mac, Sephora, etc.) before you totally make up your mind.
Still jealous of you. You're starting from a pretty good point, IMHO.
Marie
Thanks Eliz Marie my love :) I thought so too.
Happy New Year to you and yours.
Hugs,
April
Quote from: ElizMarie on January 05, 2015, 09:46:13 AM
April, I would have to agree with you. Your face has changed in the last few weeks. Softer features all the way around. You looked feminine before, but somehow this is A LOT more feminine. Also, I love you with the dark hair. Somehow, it just fits your face a lot better and is more natural.
Hey Gwen,
I agree with Marie, wait for at least 2 years to do anything and let hormones do its work. I was initially concerned about my face and now I am quite happy with the subtle changes that are happening. Patience and a lot of self love will be your armour.
You are looking as fab as usual. Don't worry about that chin, I've seen a lot worse in women.
xo
April
Quote from: sonson on January 05, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
Hi all!
I wanted to try posting some pictures again, this time with me actually trying to look feminine :)
I received very positive responses last time which Im very grateful for. It was a pleasant surprise since I cant help but focus on my flaws.
again, Im pre-everything. I only tied my hair back and used a little mascara
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWElfnK2l.jpg&hash=e9a2f4ef0738583fe6f76aefd737705b75849105)
my smile tends to change the shape of my face somewhat, it pulls my cheeks out and my mouth upwards, making my chin appear bigger
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ft7Nuzdcl.jpg&hash=01efbc1c87c81553670f72449367e4c17ae3e92a)
I know my eyebrows could use some trimming, and I'd eventually like to get FFS to reduce my brow ridge (since i think thats pretty important gender-wise), but what about the chin? do you think its a problem, or is that more of a vanity thing and less of a gender thing?
any tips I can get are greatly appreciated!
also, what kind of facial changes can you expect from HRT? I dont expect much but Im curious. (ive heard it can clear up acne, is this true?? thatd be a nice bonus)
Quote from: ElizMarie on January 05, 2015, 09:52:19 AM
Gwen, give HRT at least a year or so before you decide what to do. I think that you're fortunate that you're starting with a face that's somewhat androgynous.
HRT will probably fill in your cheeks somewhat and soften your lower jaw. Sometimes, even the biggest male chins seem to disappear from importance once HRT does its thing. As for your brow bossing, once you get your brows trimmed to "female" norms and have some eye liner, that may indeed not be a problem, either. Again, I would recommend you wait on HRT and get some "training" in makeup (a makeover at Mac, Sephora, etc.) before you totally make up your mind.
Still jealous of you. You're starting from a pretty good point, IMHO.
Marie
Quote from: carmenkate on January 05, 2015, 10:03:25 AM
Hey Gwen,
I agree with Marie, wait for at least 2 years to do anything and let hormones do its work. I was initially concerned about my face and now I am quite happy with the subtle changes that are happening. Patience and a lot of self love will be your armour.
You are looking as fab as usual. Don't worry about that chin, I've seen a lot worse in women.
xo
April
thank you both for the kind responses :)
I hadnt really thought about it but I think you're right, Im probably rushing this too much right now. I guess theres really no need to worry about my face at the moment, Im just anxious and feel so ready to start truly living. As for the FFS, thats just something Im thinking about but not something I could ever actually do until waaay down the line, cause theres no way I could afford that right now :P but like you said theres no need to even worry about it at this point.
thanks for the advice and providing some clarity ^-^
Also, April, I love the latest picture, big fan of the natural look!
you guys give me hope!
im so glad i found you.
Quote from: sonson on January 05, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
Hi all!
I wanted to try posting some pictures again, this time with me actually trying to look feminine :)
I received very positive responses last time which Im very grateful for. It was a pleasant surprise since I cant help but focus on my flaws.
again, Im pre-everything. I only tied my hair back and used a little mascara
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWElfnK2l.jpg&hash=e9a2f4ef0738583fe6f76aefd737705b75849105)
my smile tends to change the shape of my face somewhat, it pulls my cheeks out and my mouth upwards, making my chin appear bigger
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ft7Nuzdcl.jpg&hash=01efbc1c87c81553670f72449367e4c17ae3e92a)
I know my eyebrows could use some trimming, and I'd eventually like to get FFS to reduce my brow ridge (since i think thats pretty important gender-wise), but what about the chin? do you think its a problem, or is that more of a vanity thing and less of a gender thing?
any tips I can get are greatly appreciated!
also, what kind of facial changes can you expect from HRT? I dont expect much but Im curious. (ive heard it can clear up acne, is this true?? thatd be a nice bonus)
Oh my gosh, Gwen, you look amazing.
No makeup, no HRT, and already you're practically there. Good for you!
I don't see your chin as a problem at all. You have a beautifully feminine smile. And as for your comment that smiling makes your chin look bigger- I think that happens to all of us. I mean, have you seen Reese Witherspoon's chin when she smiles? Girl's chin looks like a dolphin's nose.
If there was anything you could work on, I suppose it would be to try to clear up your complexion as much as possible, maybe with a little help from the dermatologist if necessary. And of course those eyebrows could use a little quality time with a weed whacker, but that's an easy enough fix.
And get on the 'mones, girl! If you look this good now, just wait until those little miracle workers get ahold of you!
Hugs,
Teg
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on January 05, 2015, 01:48:58 PM
Oh my gosh, Gwen, you look amazing.
No makeup, no HRT, and already you're practically there. Good for you!
I don't see your chin as a problem at all. You have a beautifully feminine smile. And as for your comment that smiling makes your chin look bigger- I think that happens to all of us. I mean, have you seen Reese Witherspoon's chin when she smiles? Girl's chin looks like a dolphin's nose.
If there was anything you could work on, I suppose it would be to try to clear up your complexion as much as possible, maybe with a little help from the dermatologist if necessary. And of course those eyebrows could use a little quality time with a weed whacker, but that's an easy enough fix.
And get on the 'mones, girl! If you look this good now, just wait until those little miracle workers get ahold of you!
Hugs,
Teg
I dont think she needs a dermatologist. E works wonders on the complexion. It has done work on my complexion after 2 weeks. so let hormones work before you see a dermatologist.
This is me, 10 weeks in (HRT), boy-mode. My friend said my face is changed, and I wanted to get a little public opinion. It's been about 6 weeks since I last posted pics and I'm curious how I'm coming along. I'm beginning to see more of myself each time I glance in the mirror.
Thoughts?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F0AC152BF-3501-4865-9C91-ECD84C4E4C1F.jpg&hash=3b0a062c01e04f22bbcad35e95d368c934150478) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/0AC152BF-3501-4865-9C91-ECD84C4E4C1F.jpg.html) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F53FD5396-F238-44A9-88DE-28B3CC0FBC44.jpg&hash=01abb785ebc1df8aa580d57c52634a55d70715e1) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/53FD5396-F238-44A9-88DE-28B3CC0FBC44.jpg.html) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F81F372E3-80E6-4404-9D66-6C934324E753.jpg&hash=98a7574b340b1dba0fdbfd890389aa97ab95681a) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/81F372E3-80E6-4404-9D66-6C934324E753.jpg.html) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FB9EFE1C2-7451-402D-89DB-0F9E99EF4015.jpg&hash=1eff8c401f72ad57cde2e3baeb1b687daf23d3b4) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/B9EFE1C2-7451-402D-89DB-0F9E99EF4015.jpg.html)
My hair, by the way, is tied back; what shows on the sides is the shortest of it.
The last pic is from today. How many more months before male-fail, you think? ::)
Hugs,
Teg
Almost 9m HRT, its been so-so the first half year but I am picking up life lately again :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDr9UVN3.jpg&hash=78ce4438bb63ec70b562d981ef6f53bccd50a3b5)
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on January 05, 2015, 03:38:19 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F81F372E3-80E6-4404-9D66-6C934324E753.jpg&hash=98a7574b340b1dba0fdbfd890389aa97ab95681a) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/81F372E3-80E6-4404-9D66-6C934324E753.jpg.html)
You look very much like a woman I know in this pic!
Quote from: YinYanga on January 05, 2015, 04:32:42 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDr9UVN3.jpg&hash=78ce4438bb63ec70b562d981ef6f53bccd50a3b5)
You look very female - nice facial shape and your eyes and lips work really well!
Quote from: YinYanga on January 05, 2015, 04:32:42 PM
Almost 9m HRT, its been so-so the first half year but I am picking up life lately again :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDr9UVN3.jpg&hash=78ce4438bb63ec70b562d981ef6f53bccd50a3b5)
a true beauty :icon_love:
Yea that 3rd pic is really great Teagan. Grace beat me to it >:(
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on January 05, 2015, 03:38:19 PM
Thoughts?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F81F372E3-80E6-4404-9D66-6C934324E753.jpg&hash=98a7574b340b1dba0fdbfd890389aa97ab95681a)
(http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/81F372E3-80E6-4404-9D66-6C934324E753.jpg.html) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FB9EFE1C2-7451-402D-89DB-0F9E99EF4015.jpg&hash=1eff8c401f72ad57cde2e3baeb1b687daf23d3b4) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/B9EFE1C2-7451-402D-89DB-0F9E99EF4015.jpg.html)
My hair, by the way, is tied back; what shows on the sides is the shortest of it.
The last pic is from today. How many more months before male-fail, you think? ::)
Hugs,
Teg
After looking back at your earlier photo wowsers, big change for the better. In answer to your question, looking at these two photos I would expect you to be getting the odd male fale here and there now. You do look female now
I was in a good mood earlier(rare) and took these and liked them:
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Quote from: carmenkate on January 04, 2015, 11:22:22 PM
Hello Ladies,
So I got a bit bored tonight and took a selfie without makeup *scared as hell*
be nice about the comments LOL
Much love,
April
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9Vq9S1V.jpg&hash=c68865740fc5db618f12e5b30f6c252b861d6712)
No makeup is good!
I have never had proper makeup done. It's something I need and want to do, I just have never gotten around to it.
But you look great!
Quote from: Makenzie on January 04, 2015, 10:03:39 PM
Yea,I will do a better one tomorrow.I am way to masculine looking to ever pass :(
Do you want me to pull out my dudebro pic? LOL.
Here it is.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1188.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz403%2Frjairam%2F6F3F80DB-01D3-4293-92C3-A230C863570C_zps1cbbwivj.jpg&hash=977b608fa334349f58dfdbf175bd0ee0cc441d67) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/user/rjairam/media/6F3F80DB-01D3-4293-92C3-A230C863570C_zps1cbbwivj.jpg.html)
Now, I don't fully pass yet, I'm a month into HRT and I have taken small steps to feminize myself but I think I have a shot at passing sometime in the near future.
Anything is possible.
http://i.imgur.com/s1Tx6Uk.jpg
Direct link as don't find other working methods for days
Quote from: Charley Bea(EmeraldP) on January 06, 2015, 06:28:52 AM
I was in a good mood earlier(rare) and took these and liked them:
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.tumblr.com%2F4d608e14fc93d5573fec84d80c456136%2Ftumblr_inline_nhq7g4BfRN1qj8jwe.jpg&hash=7602e41778caa9dd3c6edbe2aec250a6d41fbbd4)
Very much a pass Charley
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wizards-domain.com%2Fjade%2Fhi.jpg&hash=cd6723efe3cf6dfaa8a26a51ec407c08600b9057)
Playing with colors :)
Love,
Jade
:-*
posted several months ago pre anything, now I have been on hrt two weeks, semi full time...
https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10891916_1561572910755715_8981217820667285939_n.jpg?oh=d5ba922b2e557cbaf349ca5d3b86a313&oe=552DCA3C
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10891671_1561572920755714_2520467017473127402_n.jpg?oh=50bbaf08b5487880d34ba2521f190d7b&oe=5521D95B&__gda__=1429008433_39cfd354e9a72a839b77e60be951bc71
also how the eff do you post pics on here, I cant remember lol
Quote from: Cristyjade30 on January 06, 2015, 10:11:56 PM
also how the eff do you post pics on here, I cant remember lol
Try photobucket or imgur or any easy to use photo hosting site
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Use the bottom Left button to generate img tag that surround your link. I right clicked your picture and selected the "Copy image URL" option then put inside the image tag. Hope this helps.
BTW, you're looking very beautiful and femme.
-Alana
Quote from: Cristyjade30 on January 06, 2015, 10:11:56 PM
also how the eff do you post pics on here, I cant remember lol
Your becoming a hottie :) I am pretty jealous I like those shades of lipstick but they don't like me...
Quote from: Alana_Jane on January 06, 2015, 10:54:50 PM
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Use the bottom Left button to generate img tag that surround your link. I right clicked your picture and selected the "Copy image URL" option then put inside the image tag. Hope this helps.
BTW, you're looking very beautiful and femme.
-Alana
oh
>-bleeped-< now I remember lol, okay here it goes
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10897763_1561572877422385_3836755598924819084_n.jpg?oh=1e1d9349d98fd8ce6d12e27f394fc5bc&oe=552981EB&__gda__=1430589138_461a25fcbca4ea6c03b2d598fa18575b)
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Christyjade30, you have come a long way! The hair, glasses, makeup, clothing - all of it complements your pretty face wonderfully. You're in the "definite pass" category. :)
Ok, the makeup helps Im sure, but I still am "sirred" more often than not. Maybe it's just my overall presentation or maybe I still just look masculine? I just dont know.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1368.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag167%2Fqueenpingo24%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20141214_193117_zpsah3b2x9f.jpg&hash=b1646751a2d8785fd4dad03bc5577cad69e801d0)
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Quote from: AnnaCannibal on January 07, 2015, 09:03:23 AM
Ok, the makeup helps Im sure, but I still am "sirred" more often than not. Maybe it's just my overall presentation or maybe I still just look masculine? I just dont know.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1368.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag167%2Fqueenpingo24%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20141214_193117_zpsah3b2x9f.jpg&hash=b1646751a2d8785fd4dad03bc5577cad69e801d0)
First off.. I'd just like to say that you have GORGEOUS eyes. I would love to do your makeup omg!
ok, now that that's been said.
Your lips look full, your cheeks seem round, your chin and jaw don't seem extreme. With some contouring makeup I could make you look like a supermodel. You get sirred? hell no.
Advice. Your piercings. You may be proud of them. But they're not doing you any favors. (I'm a tattoo artist and work closely with this sort of thing) What you have are usualy worn by males. Especialy the bridge.
Since you like peircings though.. Do the side of your nose, maybe a monroe or a small dermal. Ear rings? Medium sized hoops always SCREAM femme ;)
Hope this helps, good luck hun :)
Quote from: AnnaCannibal on January 07, 2015, 09:03:23 AM
Ok, the makeup helps Im sure, but I still am "sirred" more often than not. Maybe it's just my overall presentation or maybe I still just look masculine? I just dont know.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1368.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag167%2Fqueenpingo24%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20141214_193117_zpsah3b2x9f.jpg&hash=b1646751a2d8785fd4dad03bc5577cad69e801d0)
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Thanks!!! My wife seen these pictures and she immediately called me( I am out of state on business) and se told me she me I was turning her lesbian...lol or atleast bi.. when I get home Ill get her to help take a full picture, thanks !
Quote from: Cristyjade30 on January 07, 2015, 10:17:58 AM
Thanks!!! My wife seen these pictures and she immediately called me( I am out of state on business) and se told me she me I was turning her lesbian...lol or atleast bi.. when I get home Ill get her to help take a full picture, thanks !
Lose the hat next time. It's kind of hard to tell where it ends and your hair begins.
But, like I've said before, you're looking good. Of course I've always had a thing for alternative chicks. ;)
Cheers,
Teg
Hi all. This is a pic of me a few months ago. Hair is a bit shorter than now, and not wearing makeup or women's clothing (and I look glum as hell!). Do you think there's any potential there if I were to get hormones and maybe ffs on forehead, nose and jaw?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1381.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah221%2Fkcoghlan85%2FDSC_0007_zpslcf6y2af.jpg&hash=c8e4524ff182f685a49efb2bf09250aa43e582e8)
Quote from: Rotika on January 07, 2015, 09:38:09 AM
First off.. I'd just like to say that you have GORGEOUS eyes. I would love to do your makeup omg!
ok, now that that's been said.
Your lips look full, your cheeks seem round, your chin and jaw don't seem extreme. With some contouring makeup I could make you look like a supermodel. You get sirred? hell no.
Advice. Your piercings. You may be proud of them. But they're not doing you any favors. (I'm a tattoo artist and work closely with this sort of thing) What you have are usualy worn by males. Especialy the bridge.
Since you like peircings though.. Do the side of your nose, maybe a monroe or a small dermal. Ear rings? Medium sized hoops always SCREAM femme ;)
Hope this helps, good luck hun :)
Thank you. I wouldnt say Im proud of my piercings, but I definitely like them! Ok, I guess I need to learn how to contour. :D
Quote from: Kiera85 on January 07, 2015, 02:10:55 PM
Hi all. This is a pic of me a few months ago. Hair is a bit shorter than now, and not wearing makeup or women's clothing (and I look glum as hell!). Do you think there's any potential there if I were to get hormones and maybe ffs on forehead, nose and jaw?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1381.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah221%2Fkcoghlan85%2FDSC_0007_zpslcf6y2af.jpg&hash=c8e4524ff182f685a49efb2bf09250aa43e582e8)
Honestly, at the moment you do look a bit masculine but mostly because of the stubble and the short hair. Your eyes look perfect (and not to forget to mention your, eh, how you say that.. the default eyebrow shape) and longer hair can change a lot. Then I only maybe see your jaw drawing some attention but really, HRT does some magic tricks sometimes, make your jaw look rounder and a lot more feminine.
Thanks Kirey, that's very encouraging :-)
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on January 05, 2015, 01:48:58 PM
Oh my gosh, Gwen, you look amazing.
No makeup, no HRT, and already you're practically there. Good for you!
I don't see your chin as a problem at all. You have a beautifully feminine smile. And as for your comment that smiling makes your chin look bigger- I think that happens to all of us. I mean, have you seen Reese Witherspoon's chin when she smiles? Girl's chin looks like a dolphin's nose.
If there was anything you could work on, I suppose it would be to try to clear up your complexion as much as possible, maybe with a little help from the dermatologist if necessary. And of course those eyebrows could use a little quality time with a weed whacker, but that's an easy enough fix.
And get on the 'mones, girl! If you look this good now, just wait until those little miracle workers get ahold of you!
Hugs,
Teg
sorry for late response, thank you so much Tegan!!! :laugh:
Quote from: amber roskamp on January 05, 2015, 03:36:13 PM
I dont think she needs a dermatologist. E works wonders on the complexion. It has done work on my complexion after 2 weeks. so let hormones work before you see a dermatologist.
well that answers that question! good to hear, thanks!
So for the first time I've managed to take a photo of myself that I don't absolutely hate.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FX28UgNc.jpg&hash=3a8fe33b0101257d09910b3affe6b860fbc6c388)
I've tidied up my eyebrows and figured out basic makeup, and started doing my hair. 15 months on HRT and I'm beginning to feel a bit more positive about my chances of not just looking like a man in drag. So I'm pretty happy with this, really.
Belfast Girl, I don't see a man at all. (In fact, you look a lot better now than in your October pictures, even.) I just see a tall young woman whose hair I totally envy.
Marie
Belfast Girl: You're flippin' gorgeous, though I know how hard it is to gain confidence; one wrong shadow and it's easy to feel like everything is ruined :(
That said, I reiterate you are flippin gorgeous. Whatever the case, give yourself more time on HRT, and in a year or two if you're still not confident go for FFS. That said, from what I can see you look small framed and look like you won't have any problems.
Quote from: belfast girl on January 08, 2015, 02:02:50 PM
So for the first time I've managed to take a photo of myself that I don't absolutely hate.
I've tidied up my eyebrows and figured out basic makeup, and started doing my hair. 15 months on HRT and I'm beginning to feel a bit more positive about my chances of not just looking like a man in drag. So I'm pretty happy with this, really.
You look really good. I too remember those first photos you posted up and you have improved each time you've posted an update. Great stuff!
Hi all!
I´m giving this a try as well and fell free to comment and criticize :)
I do think i pass quite well and perhaps 3 people at most have sirred me since i went full time. Thats two years ago and i have been on hrt for 9 months.
First picture is 2 months on hrt (I´m the brunette i just couldn't edit out my blond friend)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmJ9NGXB.jpg&hash=6ef14dff5172b70eba56b028140ae5ca0c699751)
The second picture is from this Christmas (hrt for 9 months)
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Sooooo, I've almost recovered from FFS!!!
The right side of my chin is still way more swollen than the left, and I'm still lacking feeling in my chin lol, but otherwise I think I've healed enough the improvement is visible and am ready for the scrutiny of you ladies!!!
I got my hair done/eyebrows waxed Tuesday; the bangs were GORGEOUS, but I felt like they made me look like a had a unibrow, so I very (very) carefully fixed them, and am extremely happy with the results!!!
included in album is also some pics of me being fabulous/playing with makeup. I know I look gaudy but that's the only makeup I have!!!
(link to the album containing my pics)
http://imgur.com/a/lBjxR
also, just a reguhler ol' pic
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Quote from: sofinia on January 08, 2015, 02:53:52 PM
Hi all!
I´m giving this a try as well and fell free to comment and criticize :)
I do think i pass quite well and perhaps 3 people at most have sirred me since i went full time. Thats two years ago and i have been on hrt for 9 months.
First picture is 2 months on hrt (I´m the brunette i just couldn't edit out my blond friend)
The second picture is from this Christmas (hrt for 9 months)
Uh, girl, you are FABULOUS, what are you doin' in this thread???
For real though, you've got it going for you, well done!!!
Thanks everyone!
I definitely feel a lot more positive now than in October. I wouldn't say confident yet at all, but definitely more positive. It's amazing the changes HRT and putting even just a bit of effort in with eyebrows/hair/makeup make to your appearance. It almost feels like the changes from HRT in the last few months are as much as if not more than the year before. Still have a massive problem with my Adam's apple, but I can't afford to do anything about it so I'll just have to deal with it I suppose. FFS would be available to me through the NHS in a couple of years, so I guess I'll just wait and see then how I feel. Right now I'd like a lot, in two years maybe I'll feel differently.
Getting there. Slowly, agonisingly slowly, but definitely getting there.
Quote from: Handy on January 08, 2015, 03:03:49 PM
Uh, girl, you are FABULOUS, what are you doin' in this thread???
For real though, you've got it going for you, well done!!!
Agreed completely. You look amazeballs! Very cute and quite pretty.
;D,
Teg
6 months ago I stopped ignoring the feelings that were ruining my life and considered the idea that I might have gender dysphoria. Since then I've seen a gender therapist and basically realised that I've wanted to be a girl since I was 3 years old. It makes me sad to realise the person I could have been but I just don't see transition as possible for me. I'm not going to pass. I'm scared of hearing that this feelings seems to get worse as we get older but I just don't think there is any answer for me. I'm shy as it is, a life the way I think I'd look? I don't think I can handle that.
I'm a second away from putting these feelings away again and moving on. I've been kinda good at being a guy I can be happy again. But I've got to do this before I go. In my opinion I wouldn't come close to passing because of the size of my shoulders, back, ribcage, pelvis, arms hands and feet. Am I right? Be brutal, I need to make a decision and try and move on with my life.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff21%2Fsonybarcelona%2FIMG_1117_zps03bb4645.jpg&hash=5737b36b555de6559aa5ace302a4e922e433ce34)
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I know it looks like i have a lot of muscle or fat under that t-shirt but its mostly just bone. Seriously I just have a large ribcage and freakishly large pelvis. I'm sure I'd lose a lot of arm muscle on hormones but that is about it. They are still really long with big hands. And those are size 12 UK mens feet you're looking at. I'd have no chance right?
Hard to get a good idea as the camera angle is so high and distorting your overall body shape.
It does a tiny bit. But unfortunately that's really what I look like. Top heavy. It also probably makes my feet look smaller than they actually are.
Quote from: orangejuice on January 08, 2015, 04:31:05 PM
6 months ago I stopped ignoring the feelings that were ruining my life and considered the idea that I might have gender dysphoria. Since then I've seen a gender therapist and basically realised that I've wanted to be a girl since I was 3 years old. It makes me sad to realise the person I could have been but I just don't see transition as possible for me. I'm not going to pass. I'm scared of hearing that this feelings seems to get worse as we get older but I just don't think there is any answer for me. I'm shy as it is, a life the way I think I'd look? I don't think I can handle that.
I'm a second away from putting these feelings away again and moving on. I've been kinda good at being a guy I can be happy again. But I've got to do this before I go. In my opinion I wouldn't come close to passing because of the size of my shoulders, back, ribcage, pelvis, arms hands and feet. Am I right? Be brutal, I need to make a decision and try and move on with my life.
You will never know unless you try. I am 6' tall 200 lbs right now. I wear size 10 shoes. I have a broad shoulder and large chest too. Not fat but I am solid for the most part. For 39 years i said I could never pass. Well I have made up my mind. I am going to try to do what ever it takes to make me happy. And I don't like to fail. So remember if you never try you have already missed out on your chance. One month into this and I have lost 20 pounds. Just look at the other girls on here they did it do can we.
Vicky
MtF
Quote from: sofinia on January 08, 2015, 02:53:52 PM
Hi all!
I´m giving this a try as well and fell free to comment and criticize :)
I do think i pass quite well and perhaps 3 people at most have sirred me since i went full time. Thats two years ago and i have been on hrt for 9 months.
First picture is 2 months on hrt (I´m the brunette i just couldn't edit out my blond friend)
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The second picture is from this Christmas (hrt for 9 months)
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You should get yourself over to the 'Fabulous' thread :icon_chick:
Another bump to go visit the Fabulous thread, you look gorgeous and if you still see any male in the mirror you need to have your head examined!
Quote from: belfast girl on January 08, 2015, 02:02:50 PM
So for the first time I've managed to take a photo of myself that I don't absolutely hate.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FX28UgNc.jpg&hash=3a8fe33b0101257d09910b3affe6b860fbc6c388)
I've tidied up my eyebrows and figured out basic makeup, and started doing my hair. 15 months on HRT and I'm beginning to feel a bit more positive about my chances of not just looking like a man in drag. So I'm pretty happy with this, really.
Quote from: belfast girl on January 08, 2015, 02:02:50 PM
So for the first time I've managed to take a photo of myself that I don't absolutely hate.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FX28UgNc.jpg&hash=3a8fe33b0101257d09910b3affe6b860fbc6c388)
I've tidied up my eyebrows and figured out basic makeup, and started doing my hair. 15 months on HRT and I'm beginning to feel a bit more positive about my chances of not just looking like a man in drag. So I'm pretty happy with this, really.
looking pretty
I know i don't pass but this is the first picture i've taken of myself
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Quote from: sofinia on January 08, 2015, 02:53:52 PM
Hi all!
I´m giving this a try as well and fell free to comment and criticize :)
I do think i pass quite well and perhaps 3 people at most have sirred me since i went full time. Thats two years ago and i have been on hrt for 9 months.
First picture is 2 months on hrt (I´m the brunette i just couldn't edit out my blond friend)
The second picture is from this Christmas (hrt for 9 months)
You've got a pass from me.
Quote from: belfast girl on January 08, 2015, 02:02:50 PM
So for the first time I've managed to take a photo of myself that I don't absolutely hate.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FX28UgNc.jpg&hash=3a8fe33b0101257d09910b3affe6b860fbc6c388)
I've tidied up my eyebrows and figured out basic makeup, and started doing my hair. 15 months on HRT and I'm beginning to feel a bit more positive about my chances of not just looking like a man in drag. So I'm pretty happy with this, really.
You look gorgeous!
Quote from: Handy on January 08, 2015, 03:03:49 PM
Uh, girl, you are FABULOUS, what are you doin' in this thread???
For real though, you've got it going for you, well done!!!
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on January 08, 2015, 03:29:28 PM
Agreed completely. You look amazeballs! Very cute and quite pretty.
;D,
Teg
Thank you all for the sweet comments!! :D I somehow already knew that i passed, but it means a lot to hear it from you wonderful people! I´d almost like to think that we are by nature, more analytic in these matters as we know what to look for :)
Quote from: V M on January 08, 2015, 09:39:18 PM
You should get yourself over to the 'Fabulous' thread :icon_chick:
Hmm, as a matter of fact maybe I will! ;)
Hi Everyone! So i havent been back in a while, but I wanted to know how I stack up! I think I can get away physique wise, but I'm unhappy about my face :( But I can't quite place it... is it too rounded? the wrinkles? 6 o clock shadow?... hmmm looking for your opinions! :D. Also I feel like i'm almost there, or am I delusional? Please be honest!
Finally if I am as close as I think I am, i'd also love to hear which you like best! I'm looking to update some profile pics ???
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Quote from: yokosoko on January 10, 2015, 03:34:59 AM
Hi Everyone! So i havent been back in a while, but I wanted to know how I stack up! I think I can get away physique wise, but I'm unhappy about my face :( But I can't quite place it... is it too rounded? the wrinkles? 6 o clock shadow?... hmmm looking for your opinions! :D. Also I feel like i'm almost there, or am I delusional? Please be honest!
Finally if I am as close as I think I am, i'd also love to hear which you like best! I'm looking to update some profile pics ???
I think you look quite good actually.
However the shadow does seem to be a bit of a problem. Are you doing electro or laser?
Maybe try a new style of glasses?
So looking at some of your older posts I see you've done that.
I do think it's an improvement.
Honest opinions (not meant to sugar coat):
Brow bossing could be an issue but I see your hair is covering nicely.
The "muscle mustache" is there? I'm not 100% sure on that one.
Otherwise with some makeup adjustment I think you're pretty passable.
Your body looks GREAT however. I wish I had one like yours!
Thanks! Yeah I really try and use the comments to set goals for myself (I'm very goal driven).
Would you mind elaborating on some of your comments?
Brow bossing I'm assuming that's the bottom of my forehead sticking out right? Yeah it's not too prominent but my ocd Ness is making me thing of surgery as its a minor procedure to reduce but if I pass I probably won't.
As for laser, yes I'm planning to, just figuring out the financials (I fortunately am actually allergic to my body hair! So I'm trying to get insurance to cover it)
Muscle stache?
I worked really hard for the physique I have so it's great to hear those compliments! It's so hard to find workouts that don't build and supplement it with a diet, but I've managed to do so (and turned into a health nut in the process) but basically what I did (if you want to try) is I went vegan gluten free first. Then I went from yoga to 3 workouts a week doing Barre classes plus one yoga session (with protein shakes, as these workouts are more on toning than building in want to encourage muscle repair to get the toned athletic look so it offsets my wide shoulders, and improved fat burn) , and if I have the energy I try and squeeze in a run, but it depends on how fatigued my muscles are. Then I looked at my sugar intake and dropped that to near 0 (the only sugars I consume now are natural). Finally with some calorie control Im close to hitting my target Weighr and body fat percent
Let me know if you want more info I'll be glad to share my plan, research, results and regular blood work to show I am still well nutritioned despite the appearance of a restricted diet (to be honest once you detox all that stuff our of your body you don't miss it)
I'm not so sure it was the muscle mustache I saw. It could have just been the facial hair. But there is an explanation on the virtualffs website.
Brow bossing, yes you are correct.
You have a similar skin tone to me, so I know how easily even a small shadow can give you away.
Quote from: yokosoko on January 10, 2015, 03:34:59 AM
Hi Everyone! So i havent been back in a while, but I wanted to know how I stack up! I think I can get away physique wise, but I'm unhappy about my face :( But I can't quite place it... is it too rounded? the wrinkles? 6 o clock shadow?... hmmm looking for your opinions! :D. Also I feel like i'm almost there, or am I delusional? Please be honest!
Finally if I am as close as I think I am, i'd also love to hear which you like best! I'm looking to update some profile pics ???
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If I saw you at the grocery store or something I wouldn't ever suspect you were tran but since I know I think it has more to do with the upper lip. With the broader jaw it is a bit long.
With that being said I think you are 100% passable. I had to really study your face to come up with that.
I think you look amazing!
I'm going to be starting HRT in about 2 months. I am 19.. I was wondering If I'll pass once I'm on hormones? What about my face will change? also will my hair texture change at all? Thank you in advance!
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A week ago
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About a month ago
You will be fine I think. You seem to have the confidence and already look androgynous but..but.. Fack I love your style, looks, whichever. You look so unique :D :D!!
Thank you so much I really needed to hear this. I am so happy I practically squealed :laugh:. I have a fear that my height may make me look more masculine (I am 6'2). I'm actually really curious what I will have to do to feminize my clothing style, while keeping the same general appearance. I may change my style to be more victorian-esque (One of my biggest dreams is to wear a corset dress in public). I've yet to come out to my parents and I've considered starting my transition before I tell them. I'm not sure how to approach them. Sorry I'm so long winded my emotions are just everywhere, and I'm not really sure how forums work. :laugh:
karnos I think you will look great! the main thing hrt will do with your face is make your face look softer and younger. there will only be minimal fat redistribution in the face. But that being said you are young and it looks like you have really unique style. I think you have a good shot at passing. just remember that hormones take a while to really work so be patient once you start. I am looking forward to seeing more post from you.
Welcome to Susans!!!
Quote from: belfast girl on January 08, 2015, 02:02:50 PM
So for the first time I've managed to take a photo of myself that I don't absolutely hate.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FX28UgNc.jpg&hash=3a8fe33b0101257d09910b3affe6b860fbc6c388)
I've tidied up my eyebrows and figured out basic makeup, and started doing my hair. 15 months on HRT and I'm beginning to feel a bit more positive about my chances of not just looking like a man in drag. So I'm pretty happy with this, really.
Based on the picture, you look very pretty, definitely not male, at all...
L Katy :-*
Quote from: karnos on January 11, 2015, 04:33:00 PM
I'm going to be starting HRT in about 2 months. I am 19.. I was wondering If I'll pass once I'm on hormones? What about my face will change? also will my hair texture change at all? Thank you in advance!
Wow, you look awesome. As another person already said, you look androgynous and HRT will only push you further to the feminine side. As an amateur in these parts, I'll say you won't even raise suspicions beyond your height. I've seen some crazy tall women, though, so I wouldn't even worry about that.
You also are blessed with the flexibility of keeping your style. You probably won't even constantly need "feminine" clothing to pass. That's awesome.
Quote from: belfast girl on January 08, 2015, 02:02:50 PM
So for the first time I've managed to take a photo of myself that I don't absolutely hate.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FX28UgNc.jpg&hash=3a8fe33b0101257d09910b3affe6b860fbc6c388)
I've tidied up my eyebrows and figured out basic makeup, and started doing my hair. 15 months on HRT and I'm beginning to feel a bit more positive about my chances of not just looking like a man in drag. So I'm pretty happy with this, really.
And you have a good reason to be happy, because you actually do look very pretty (beautiful hair btw!). Make up looks neat and well-applied to me :).
Ok... here's a big step for me. I finally shaved, hah. So here's what I would look like with make-up. All I can see are my male family members so it's hard for me to be objective and honest. So, with some HRT, do you think I would still need some FFS? I would do the FFS eventually (if I even go this route) if the money is there but that's not exactly something I'm counting on.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jl3I9OzgleE/VLHfh4RxqSI/AAAAAAAAMQ0/EbgbvcGGnMA/w480-h640-no/res_1420943127676.jpg)
Quote from: karnos on January 11, 2015, 05:26:39 PM
Thank you so much I really needed to hear this. I am so happy I practically squealed :laugh:. I have a fear that my height may make me look more masculine (I am 6'2). I'm actually really curious what I will have to do to feminize my clothing style, while keeping the same general appearance. I may change my style to be more victorian-esque (One of my biggest dreams is to wear a corset dress in public). I've yet to come out to my parents and I've considered starting my transition before I tell them. I'm not sure how to approach them. Sorry I'm so long winded my emotions are just everywhere, and I'm not really sure how forums work. :laugh:
Where are you from? Like, I am also 6.1 almost 2 (seems to depend on who measures me o.O) but the place depends on how difficult it can be I guess. Either way, if anything people will be surprised by the height but height doesn't means you won't pass. No worries about that too much.
Quote from: Kirey on January 12, 2015, 07:59:36 AM
Where are you from? Like, I am also 6.1 almost 2 (seems to depend on who measures me o.O) but the place depends on how difficult it can be I guess. Either way, if anything people will be surprised by the height but height doesn't means you won't pass. No worries about that too much.
BIB - This is so true. I am a mere shorty at 5'7" compared to some of the others here at Susan's, but over in Hong Kong I stick out like a sore thumb amongst the general local female population. Back in the UK, no one gives a crap with respect to my height as I about average height with respect to the overall female population.
Passing/blending in isn't just about height, but it can get you noticed depending where in the world you are whether if you were cis or trans, male or female. How you deal with being spotted for being too tall or too short afterwards is what matters.
Quote from: Abysha on January 11, 2015, 09:28:32 PM
Ok... here's a big step for me. I finally shaved, hah. So here's what I would look like with make-up. All I can see are my male family members so it's hard for me to be objective and honest. So, with some HRT, do you think I would still need some FFS? I would do the FFS eventually (if I even go this route) if the money is there but that's not exactly something I'm counting on.
Abysha, I'm going to go out a limb here and say probably not. That's saying, to "pass" as far as the world's eyes, you probably won't need it. However, after a couple of years of HRT (and after going full time), many of us find ourselves looking in the mirror and saying "Ewww.." at certain features. You may have that happen to you.
Personally, though, I think that you'll be pleased with the outcome of your round of HRT.
Quote from: Abysha on January 11, 2015, 09:28:32 PM
Ok... here's a big step for me. I finally shaved, hah. So here's what I would look like with make-up. All I can see are my male family members so it's hard for me to be objective and honest. So, with some HRT, do you think I would still need some FFS? I would do the FFS eventually (if I even go this route) if the money is there but that's not exactly something I'm counting on.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jl3I9OzgleE/VLHfh4RxqSI/AAAAAAAAMQ0/EbgbvcGGnMA/w480-h640-no/res_1420943127676.jpg)
I think you have a very good start, I haven't started HRT quite yet myself but from what i have seen it can do wonders,
i would let the HRT do what it can for a while then take another look at your options, only thing that kinda sticks out imo
is the little bit of shadow around your mouth so i would check on some laser/ electro, i know i have to spend more time,
trying to cover mine up than i do getting the rest of myself ready lol but i have only had 1 laser sitting so far
I don't think you need FFS. Definitely some laser and/or electro will help though.
Been a long time away, so, heres what I look like these days
No makeup/suboptimal lighting
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I know bathroom selfies are kinda ridic, but I think I look cute...
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Current favorite picture of all time:
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How am I doing? Are the no makeup ones quite as rough (barely passable) as I think they are?
I'm pretty confident I pass to the general public, but I am rather interested in what other transwomen think ^^; received constructive criticism from a transwoman who I felt didn't quite pass in the past before, and honestly I'm pretty sure I looked and passed a bit better than she did at the time... so yeah, here's one of my latest pics, taken late last year, my curls have come back a bit since then but anyways,
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Pretty sure I wasn't wearing make-up at the time of this pic either, I pluck a bit...
Quote from: ElizMarie on January 12, 2015, 09:20:12 AM
Abysha, I'm going to go out a limb here and say probably not. That's saying, to "pass" as far as the world's eyes, you probably won't need it. However, after a couple of years of HRT (and after going full time), many of us find ourselves looking in the mirror and saying "Ewww.." at certain features. You may have that happen to you.
Personally, though, I think that you'll be pleased with the outcome of your round of HRT.
My heart sank when I first started reading as I thought it sounded like you were bracing me for something and when you said "probably not", I thought you mean "probably not pass" until I kept reading, hah! This gives me a lot of hope, thank you.
Quote from: kacey on January 12, 2015, 11:24:57 AM
I think you have a very good start, I haven't started HRT quite yet myself but from what i have seen it can do wonders,
i would let the HRT do what it can for a while then take another look at your options, only thing that kinda sticks out imo
is the little bit of shadow around your mouth so i would check on some laser/ electro, i know i have to spend more time,
trying to cover mine up than i do getting the rest of myself ready lol but i have only had 1 laser sitting so far
This is more of an exploratory step before I speak with my wife about it. It may sound shallow but she might be more accepting if she thought she might get a "passable" wife out of it. The electro and HRT are definitely on the to-do list down the line if I get that far. By that I mean, "when", since I can't see myself being able to push this whole thing back down inside my brain ever again. Thank you for the feedback.
Quote from: ImagineKate on January 12, 2015, 12:17:12 PM
I don't think you need FFS. Definitely some laser and/or electro will help though.
Not having to get FFS would be so convenient. I hope you are right. It's something I'd probably do once I'm violently wealthy down the road whether or not I need it but I need to be me before that day, I'm sure.
Quote from: ashrock on January 12, 2015, 02:25:03 PM
How am I doing? Are the no makeup ones quite as rough (barely passable) as I think they are?
The "no makeup" ones look like most other women when they don't have makeup on. It's one thing I'm not looking forward to, heh heh.
But no, nothing about you screams out masculine to me, with or without makeup.
Quote from: Abysha on January 12, 2015, 08:02:12 PM
My heart sank when I first started reading as I thought it sounded like you were bracing me for something and when you said "probably not", I thought you mean "probably not pass" until I kept reading, hah! This gives me a lot of hope, thank you.
Sorry, Abysha. My writing has not been at its best today. Having one of those days....
Quote from: Reilana on January 12, 2015, 07:56:44 PM
I'm pretty confident I pass to the general public, but I am rather interested in what other transwomen think ^^; received constructive criticism from a transwoman who I felt didn't quite pass in the past before, and honestly I'm pretty sure I looked and passed a bit better than she did at the time... so yeah, here's one of my latest pics, taken late last year, my curls have come back a bit since then but anyways,
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg538%2F3492%2FmrlaLC.jpg&hash=532935d3842a3d92a71732063ccebe11946f516e)
Pretty sure I wasn't wearing make-up at the time of this pic either, I pluck a bit...
Personally.... Not quite passing.... I think a little more cleaning on the eyebrows would help (you got a good natural arch to work with, let it show). What stands out to me are:
1) Chin along with face proportions, which has actually been the biggest change I've noticed with hormones facially. My face has become far more round, I suspect that would happen with you and would definitely help.
2) Adam's apple... I know theres nothing really to be done with that besides surgery....
3) Forehead, the brow ridge and the wrinkling... Though I don't think its any worse than mine and other people seem not to notice on me....
edit to add:
If you think you are passing in public, you probably are, and those would do clock you are almost always going to treat you respectfully as your proper gender: my experience and two cents worth...
I do want to get the eyebrows waxed again some time, heh, don't think the chin's going to change much more though, been on the hormones 4 and a half years already. I don't like to smile in pictures much though, cuz they just don't seem to work for me, sort of enhances some of my more masculine features.
Quote from: Leila on January 12, 2015, 08:11:16 AM
BIB - This is so true. I am a mere shorty at 5'7" compared to some of the others here at Susan's, but over in Hong Kong I stick out like a sore thumb amongst the general local female population. Back in the UK, no one gives a crap with respect to my height as I about average height with respect to the overall female population.
Passing/blending in isn't just about height, but it can get you noticed depending where in the world you are whether if you were cis or trans, male or female. How you deal with being spotted for being too tall or too short afterwards is what matters.
Advantage you got is that you got other places to travel to and feel at ease again maybe :P. While I frequently meet cis women (almost) my height, or even taller, I doubt I would visit Hong-Kong unless I walk next of a tall boyfriend :P.
And agreed ^^. People stare anyhow but best is to (atleast try) walk it off with pride and make them admire you instead of them thinking what kind of weird, insecure person is walking past by :P.
Hi, all!
I was wondering if one of you could skim through an album of my pics I've put up, very recent ones and I would like to get some sort of (ANY sorf of) feedback at all. But generally what I'd like to know is how am I standing? I know it's a long shot from passing and I'm not even thinking of transition (although I have been on hormones two years ago and it's more than a year off them since) but I'd like to, for vanity's sake, indulge myself a bit :D I would like to hell if I could look more feminine and am vexed by this male husk but I know that's not happening at my age and HRT is no longer an option with so I guess I could use some honest opinions from you good folk.
Here's the link to the album; the first four pics show a good amount of facial hair, which is done with in all the rest of them - I'm sorry my hair is a mess and the pics aren't the greatest quality to begin with.
But a great thanks in advance.
http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/da1987/library/MyAlbum?sort=9&page=1
Oh, and the password is "nopass".
P.S. Please no sugar-coating for me, just throw it straight at me whatever it is.
Quote from: LittleV on January 14, 2015, 02:30:41 AM
Hi, all!
I was wondering if one of you could skim through an album of my pics I've put up, very recent ones and I would like to get some sort of (ANY sorf of) feedback at all. But generally what I'd like to know is how am I standing? I know it's a long shot from passing and I'm not even thinking of transition (although I have been on hormones two years ago and it's more than a year off them since) but I'd like to, for vanity's sake, indulge myself a bit :D I would like to hell if I could look more feminine and am vexed by this male husk but I know that's not happening at my age and HRT is no longer an option with so I guess I could use some honest opinions from you good folk.
Here's the link to the album; the first four pics show a good amount of facial hair, which is done with in all the rest of them - I'm sorry my hair is a mess and the pics aren't the greatest quality to begin with.
But a great thanks in advance.
http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/da1987/library/MyAlbum?sort=9&page=1
Oh, and the password is "nopass".
P.S. Please no sugar-coating for me, just throw it straight at me whatever it is.
may I ask why hrt is no longer an option? because you're nearly passing already! with enough time on hormones I honestly think you have a ton of potential to pass completely, especially with make up too. Your face is slender, your eyes are big and pretty, your eyebrows already look great, and you have nearly no brow ridge that I can see. seriously Im not trying to sugar coat, I think you could transition pretty flawlessly should you ever decide to. :)
Quote from: sonson on January 14, 2015, 04:01:45 AM
may I ask why hrt is no longer an option? because you're nearly passing already! with enough time on hormones I honestly think you have a ton of potential to pass completely, especially with make up too. Your face is slender, your eyes are big and pretty, your eyebrows already look great, and you have nearly no brow ridge that I can see. seriously Im not trying to sugar coat, I think you could transition pretty flawlessly should you ever decide to. :)
Thanks a bunch! That really brightened up my day. I felt I was close to passing when I was on HRT, but without the proper (high) dosages with NHS covering it and my weird body shape it was just an impossible dream to live up to. HRT is out of the question mainly because of the cost of it, since I'm unemployed atm and having it on NHS in my country is a pain.
I do have a bit of brow bossing and a weird shaped forehead so that's a bit of a hindrance. Also, I do pluck my eyebrows, the only thing I haven't stopped doing for years.
Thanks again.
I agree with Gwen. If you want brutal you could have have rhino on your nose bridge. But that is more aesthetic than feminizing.
Your nose already has nice rotation. Your chin is in the feminine range. Your brow bossing seems amazingly non existent. HRT would provide the most feminizing effect, you almost pass already. In some photos you do pass. - Danielle
Quote from: misty2 on January 14, 2015, 05:14:20 AM
I agree with Gwen. If you want brutal you could have have rhino on your nose bridge. But that is more aesthetic than feminizing.
Your nose already has nice rotation. Your chin is in the feminine range. Your brow bossing seems amazingly non existent. HRT would provide the most feminizing effect, you almost pass already. In some photos you do pass. - Danielle
I had to check back to see if you were referring to me. Still do. Are you referring to me? :P :)
Coming from someone like you it sure stirs a lot of thought and emotions. I will reconsider my transition steps in future. Thanks!
Quote from: sofinia on January 08, 2015, 02:53:52 PM
Hi all!
I´m giving this a try as well and fell free to comment and criticize :)
I do think i pass quite well and perhaps 3 people at most have sirred me since i went full time. Thats two years ago and i have been on hrt for 9 months.
First picture is 2 months on hrt (I´m the brunette i just couldn't edit out my blond friend)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmJ9NGXB.jpg&hash=6ef14dff5172b70eba56b028140ae5ca0c699751)
The second picture is from this Christmas (hrt for 9 months)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTK5iW1u.jpg&hash=608ea6c37a228b09dd2ea6f5a955a777c36e7394)
Of course she's gorgeous! She is swedish ;)
Quote from: medulla on January 14, 2015, 01:12:46 PM
Of course she's gorgeous! She is swedish ;)
Haha! Thanks for the comment! But I'm not sure my nationality has that much to do with it ;)
But I have understood that there mayhaps is I promising future for me in that department after all :P
From my video journal. Me just talking, without trying to really push a female voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAvu3u60KOA&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAvu3u60KOA&feature=youtu.be)
Quote from: LittleV on January 14, 2015, 11:18:35 AM
I had to check back to see if you were referring to me. Still do. Are you referring to me? :P :)
Coming from someone like you it sure stirs a lot of thought and emotions. I will reconsider my transition steps in future. Thanks!
I went back to triple check your photos. It looks like they are down now. I wanted to check your facial hair. That is a another critical component to address. I do not know if you have a material quantity. I tend to overlook it because I assume most accept it as a given that if its there it needs to be addressed. I am sorry if I missed it. - Kind Regards, Danielle
Quote from: misty2 on January 15, 2015, 10:51:58 AM
I went back to triple check your photos. It looks like they are down now. I wanted to check your facial hair. That is a another critical component to address. I do not know if you have a material quantity. I tend to overlook it because I assume most accept it as a given that if its there it needs to be addressed. I am sorry if I missed it. - Kind Regards, Danielle
That's strange, because they're up on my end now. I did not pull them down.
I don't think I have a big issue with facial hair but IT IS THERE. I wish it weren't. You can see (on facial close-ups) and judge by yourself if you're willing to.
Oh, and by the way - you said I pass in some pics... can you please say in which ones I passed?
Btw, I added a few new pics to the album.
http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/da1987/library/MyAlbum?sort=9&page=1
"nopass"
Kind of crappy quality but here I am!
http://i.imgur.com/z2C1cEIl.jpg
I just snapped this pic and my hair is a mess and Im just trying to show what I look like when im just bumming around. Im 17 months on hrt sooooo be honest do you think I can pass one day?
Quote from: ali.yo1991 on January 15, 2015, 06:32:18 PM
Kind of crappy quality but here I am!
http://i.imgur.com/z2C1cEIl.jpg
I just snapped this pic and my hair is a mess and Im just trying to show what I look like when im just bumming around. Im 17 months on hrt sooooo be honest do you think I can pass one day?
Well... Yes!
and I love your messy hair look ;)
Jade
Quote from: Jade_404 on January 15, 2015, 06:51:48 PM
Well... Yes!
and I love your messy hair look ;)
Jade
Thank you! Lol Im hoping I can get ffs one day and really kind of bring things together
Quote from: ali.yo1991 on January 15, 2015, 07:06:10 PM
Thank you! Lol Im hoping I can get ffs one day and really kind of bring things together
Well in the picture it is dark so I don't see what needs FFS. Eyebrows are a bit bushy but still looks nice :)
I checked on rekog and you get great results with that photo. Computer thinks you are a beautiful female :o
http://rekognition.com/index.php/demo/face
emotion : happy:68%,sad:12%
age : 20.43 ( value : 20.43 )
smile : false ( value : 0.14 )
glasses : no glass ( value : 0.03 )
sunglasses : false ( value : 0.33 )
beard : false ( value : 0 )
mustache : false ( value : 0 )
eye_closed : open ( value : 0.18 )
mouth_open_wide : 1% ( value : 0.01 )
beauty : 92.69 ( value : 0.92693 )
gender : female ( value : 0 )
Quote from: Jade_404 on January 15, 2015, 07:18:11 PM
Well in the picture it is dark so I don't see what needs FFS. Eyebrows are a bit bushy but still looks nice :)
I checked on rekog and you get great results with that photo. Computer thinks you are a beautiful female :o
http://rekognition.com/index.php/demo/face
emotion : happy:68%,sad:12%
age : 20.43 ( value : 20.43 )
smile : false ( value : 0.14 )
glasses : no glass ( value : 0.03 )
sunglasses : false ( value : 0.33 )
beard : false ( value : 0 )
mustache : false ( value : 0 )
eye_closed : open ( value : 0.18 )
mouth_open_wide : 1% ( value : 0.01 )
beauty : 92.69 ( value : 0.92693 )
gender : female ( value : 0 )
Wow! That actually made my day thank you very much. Yeah my eyebrows are a bit bushy. I got my eyebrows done but I didnt go too drastic but I will go a bit thinner next time. The biggest issue I think I can get changed is my jaw and chin area
Quote from: ali.yo1991 on January 15, 2015, 07:30:06 PM
Wow! That actually made my day thank you very much. Yeah my eyebrows are a bit bushy. I got my eyebrows done but I didnt go too drastic but I will go a bit thinner next time. The biggest issue I think I can get changed is my jaw and chin area
It made my day to make your day! Seriously, when I read it I was all smiles :) :) :) :) Have a great day!
Love,
Jade
:-*
Hi everyone! This was my first time going out fem in public and I ended up taking a picture I actually liked. I believe I'm still pretty far from passing, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
I've never touched make-up before, though it is on my list of curiosities. I'm also pre everything. I'll be starting HRT in about a month or two though, so I'm really looking forward to what possible changes may occur, hopefully for the better. I've also never touched my eyebrows and my face has a bit of an acne breakout a few days before this photo.
Anyways, thank you all for your thoughts!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi762.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx269%2FAerunis%2FPrivate%2FIMG_20150113_162757869_zps9a8cf37b.jpg&hash=1caec31533900ba5eef94b85a43d443d66395c75)
Sorry about posting again after such a short time, but the pics before didn't really have that much fidelity so I'm trying again with a clearer picture.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0hwy9qBLqG0/VLgcAaB2vgI/AAAAAAAADzw/M8_lqUjmmgc/w329-h585-no/20150115_215844.jpg)
Still getting exclusively gendered as male, which is starting to frustrate the heck out of me.
Quote from: Shana on January 16, 2015, 01:53:19 AM
Hi everyone! This was my first time going out fem in public and I ended up taking a picture I actually liked. I believe I'm still pretty far from passing, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
I've never touched make-up before, though it is on my list of curiosities. I'm also pre everything. I'll be starting HRT in about a month or two though, so I'm really looking forward to what possible changes may occur, hopefully for the better. I've also never touched my eyebrows and my face has a bit of an acne breakout a few days before this photo.
Anyways, thank you all for your thoughts!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi762.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx269%2FAerunis%2FPrivate%2FIMG_20150113_162757869_zps9a8cf37b.jpg&hash=1caec31533900ba5eef94b85a43d443d66395c75)
I think if you just touched up your eyebrows in a more feminine shape and started HRT you would see tremendous difference. I think you'd pass, nothing much to worry about. The HRT will clear up most of the acne, I know it helped with most of my skin issues.
Quote from: April Lee on January 15, 2015, 02:44:47 AM
From my video journal. Me just talking, without trying to really push a female voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAvu3u60KOA&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAvu3u60KOA&feature=youtu.be)
Hi April, Transition can be so tough sometimes, can't it? Yet, you stay so calm in your video. I think you look better in the mirror than that cam because of the lighting. Your primary light source seems to be coming from the mirror. When you look in the webcam the primary light shifts to a down light. We all look better when the light source is more directly in front of you and low enough to stop shadows from your eyebrows and nose from casting long paths across your face. Move a lamp, lower and next to webcam, I think you will see instant results. Kind Regards, Danielle
Quote from: LittleV on January 15, 2015, 02:18:39 PM
That's strange, because they're up on my end now. I did not pull them down.
I don't think I have a big issue with facial hair but IT IS THERE. I wish it weren't. You can see (on facial close-ups) and judge by yourself if you're willing to.
Oh, and by the way - you said I pass in some pics... can you please say in which ones I passed?
Btw, I added a few new pics to the album.
http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/da1987/library/MyAlbum?sort=9&page=1
"nopass"
Thank you for providing the password again. Photo 11. Also, yes, photo 12.
To get picky... if I am going too far, I am sorry. But my perception of your questions is that you want much detail. You also seem to have the strength and fortitude to handle feedback. This is also an an important milestone that you seem to have surmounted. (It's hard to tell, sometimes, which people who post this thread are ready for the most critical observations.) But to really achieve "passing" takes, for most of us, methodical dedication and a willingness to accept constructive criticism. Bounce back from it, let it give us energy and build off of it. You are a beautiful person. None of these things I am gong to tell you are problems. They are all addressable opportunities to be more feminine - if that is what you seek.
Your neck is thicker. Your trapezius muscle has a more stereotypically masculine curve. To pass, you would benefit from fat and muscle redistribution in both your face and body. This can be resolved by HRT. You could shave your legs... right? That is not required but more stereotypically feminine in our culture. But, some women don't shave their legs. Also, your legs have a male muscle distribution. If it bothers you, give that at least two years on HRT to resolve. It would help even more to have SRS or an orchiectomy. (Same for the neck - would be helped by SRS) there is some beard shadow in some of your photos. Most women simply don't have that type of shadow. I think you have the skin tone and dark enough beard hair to use laser. Find a good professional. If you don't get results, switch providers or operators.
You are very lucky in that you have a small enough frame and some core features (nose rotation, feminine chin, reduced brow bossing, you are still young...) that HRT would, I think have an amazing effect. But It can take many years... at least two (is my non-medical opinion) before a person can really give up on HRT. Finally, irreversibly, SRS or Orchi + HRT really gets us as far as we can go without surgery. It is my opinion that even someone on HRT for five years will still see further muscle and fat distribution improvement after SRS. Please keep in mind I am not a doctor and SRS and hormones are a very serious step. Please develop a relationship with a therapist and an informed internist or General Practitioner or family doctor who can refer you to an endocrinologist.
But I do not want to discourage you either. There will be results even after only 4 months of HRT. Perhaps you have to get feedback from your therapist and on this forum in order to appreciate the changes. Looking in the mirror every day, through our own biased minds, can cloud our views of real progress.
It's my opinion that a transition to passing is trying to change enough masculine cues to feminine. Eventually, at some point, we tip over the line and people accept us as female. Finding your tipping point is a journey. However, you already have many cues in the feminine column.
Lastly, I think an important part of transition is that, you do need a job. Sadly, in this world, transition is rarely free. It's not fair. We are misclassified at birth and we have to pay, fight and struggle to correct that error. But it's reality.
- Kind Regards, Danielle
Quote from: misty2 on January 16, 2015, 05:54:39 AM
Thank you for providing the password again. Photo 11. Also, yes, photo 12.
To get picky... if I am going too far, I am sorry. But my perception of your questions is that you want much detail. You also seem to have the strength and fortitude to handle feedback. This is also an an important milestone that you seem to have surmounted. (It's hard to tell, sometimes, which people who post this thread are ready for the most critical observations.) But to really achieve "passing" takes, for most of us, methodical dedication and a willingness to accept constructive criticism. Bounce back from it, let it give us energy and build off of it. You are a beautiful person. None of these things I am gong to tell you are problems. They are all addressable opportunities to be more feminine - if that is what you seek.
Your neck is thicker. Your trapezius muscle has a more stereotypically masculine curve. To pass, you would benefit from fat and muscle redistribution in both your face and body. This can be resolved by HRT. You could shave your legs... right? That is not required but more stereotypically feminine in our culture. But, some women don't shave their legs. Also, your legs have a male muscle distribution. If it bothers you, give that at least two years on HRT to resolve. It would help even more to have SRS or an orchiectomy. (Same for the neck - would be helped by SRS) there is some beard shadow in some of your photos. Most women simply don't have that type of shadow. I think you have the skin tone and dark enough beard hair to use laser. Find a good professional. If you don't get results, switch providers or operators.
You are very lucky in that you have a small enough frame and some core features (nose rotation, feminine chin, reduced brow bossing, you are still young...) that HRT would, I think have an amazing effect. But It can take many years... at least two (is my non-medical opinion) before a person can really give up on HRT. Finally, irreversibly, SRS or Orchi + HRT really gets us as far as we can go without surgery. It is my opinion that even someone on HRT for five years will still see further muscle and fat distribution improvement after SRS. Please keep in mind I am not a doctor and SRS and hormones are a very serious step. Please develop a relationship with a therapist and an informed internist or General Practitioner or family doctor who can refer you to an endocrinologist.
But I do not want to discourage you either. There will be results even after only 4 months of HRT. Perhaps you have to get feedback from your therapist and on this forum in order to appreciate the changes. Looking in the mirror every day, through our own biased minds, can cloud our views of real progress.
It's my opinion that a transition to passing is trying to change enough masculine cues to feminine. Eventually, at some point, we tip over the line and people accept us as female. Finding your tipping point is a journey. However, you already have many cues in the feminine column.
Lastly, I think an important part of transition is that, you do need a job. Sadly, in this world, transition is rarely free. It's not fair. We are misclassified at birth and we have to pay, fight and struggle to correct that error. But it's reality.
- Kind Regards, Danielle
Wow, thanks for the detailed response. I was kinda hoping to get a critic response like this, because I really wanted to hear all I could do to improve my presentation.
I'm aware I haven't put much of an effort into presenting, i.e. shaving my legs, but right now that's the next thing on the to-do list.
Right now, I'm not sure if I would go into therapy, because it's a bit tricky in my country; I think that one is expected (or required) to go through srs in the end and at the moment I'm not quite sure if I really would go to that length. Because than again, if one doesn't have the upper hand on passing flawlessly it only complicates the situation regarding the employment, carreer, social life etc.
Right now I'm only looking into pushing my appearance a bit into the feminine range. HRT is still a possibility and I'm kinda regretting that my stint with it hasn't lasted longer than 8 1/2 months. It gives me joy to hear there could've been better results if I had prolonged it, because I wasn't exactly happy with mine. If I had given it more time, about two years, maybe I would get to the point where I'm content with it.
Thank you again for your advices.
Kind regards, Vanya.
Quote from: LittleV on January 16, 2015, 06:33:46 AM
Wow, thanks for the detailed response. I was kinda hoping to get a critic response like this, because I really wanted to hear all I could do to improve my presentation.
I'm aware I haven't put much of an effort into presenting, i.e. shaving my legs, but right now that's the next thing on the to-do list.
Right now, I'm not sure if I would go into therapy, because it's a bit tricky in my country; I think that one is expected (or required) to go through srs in the end and at the moment I'm not quite sure if I really would go to that length. Because than again, if one doesn't have the upper hand on passing flawlessly it only complicates the situation regarding the employment, carreer, social life etc.
Right now I'm only looking into pushing my appearance a bit into the feminine range. HRT is still a possibility and I'm kinda regretting that my stint with it hasn't lasted longer than 8 1/2 months. It gives me joy to hear there could've been better results if I had prolonged it, because I wasn't exactly happy with mine. If I had given it more time, about two years, maybe I would get to the point where I'm content with it.
Thank you again for your advices.
Kind regards, Vanya.
I looked at your album. You look fine and will look even better on prolonged HRT.
Quote from: Hideyoshi on January 16, 2015, 08:01:29 AM
I looked at your album. You look fine and will look even better on prolonged HRT.
Thanks! I was hoping hrt could make me into someone more petite like you. Always felt a bit rugged, especially the shoulders.
(https://fbcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-0/10930871_10204953223205369_5992124689987357829_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=c84ff944ea79bcaefb6b9e44a234af42&oe=55691749&__gda__=1433312822_6f6461008bf26f534e996c7b077e9697)
Meh? I had to scrub the cakeup the lady put on me at the mall and reapply something before going to work. What do y'all think? 6 months HRT if that matters.
Quote from: LadyoftheRockies on January 17, 2015, 11:39:13 AM
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Meh? I had to scrub the cakeup the lady put on me at the mall and reapply something before going to work. What do y'all think? 6 months HRT if that matters.
I think your coming along I put my finger over where the facial hair is, once your free of that burden I don't think people would know by looking at you. My thoughts are keep letting that hair grow out as well as laser/electrolysis and move on from questioning if you pass or not :)
Quote from: LittleV on January 16, 2015, 02:42:08 AM
I think if you just touched up your eyebrows in a more feminine shape and started HRT you would see tremendous difference. I think you'd pass, nothing much to worry about. The HRT will clear up most of the acne, I know it helped with most of my skin issues.
That makes me very happy to hear :D It's different hearing an opinion from others who have the same issues and is really a confidence booster. The eyebrows are something I plan to work on after I move as they seem to be a bit more noticeable than other things and I'm not exactly out at work. I'm really excited for the effects HRT will bring, I've been waiting years and I should finally be on it in the coming month or two thanks to my amazing therapist who found a transgender clinic who would take my insurance :laugh:
Hey all,
Just hanging out after a long week, and randomly decided to try on my new shirt. I'm just under 3 months HRT, and am only wearing lipstick. I'm aware of the beard shadow, and am having another session Monday. Also, I intend to deal with the adams apple as soon as possible, and before I go public. Anyway, how am I progressing?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2F4FA95928-9A7C-4053-A3B0-B1D32C95A877.jpg&hash=d2477062af882e5e4c9f79a9602ab0e310a00d43) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/4FA95928-9A7C-4053-A3B0-B1D32C95A877.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2FFEEBD3C0-8F54-423C-B7CE-D50B8A0021FF.jpg&hash=02562e28dd150308cf14f63c82bfdc2617488e1a) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/FEEBD3C0-8F54-423C-B7CE-D50B8A0021FF.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2F4DDEE6A6-82E2-4DC4-9B3D-A792B881CA3E.jpg&hash=e9fb43d7ec2b9636254e2f6fcd85e1ced7e4fc5c) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/4DDEE6A6-82E2-4DC4-9B3D-A792B881CA3E.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2F9407055C-FC92-4F44-972C-0065EB33FB58.jpg&hash=442b20d1682dc30f06a64142e7fc209b3d6a1327) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/9407055C-FC92-4F44-972C-0065EB33FB58.jpg.html)
A little earlier in the week. I'm not so sure that the dress is flattering to my shape. At least not yet. Thoughts?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2F513739CC-4DA8-4B54-99EE-8E8DA413C163.jpg&hash=8ccf9be2cde87fb61df703b83fda1bccb06c9ba7) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/513739CC-4DA8-4B54-99EE-8E8DA413C163.jpg.html)
And just for yucks, here's full-on boy-mode. At work earlier this week, and at home:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2F3A827BE3-0FA6-40BB-AFA5-06AED2B14D50.jpg&hash=f22586fd34370383682f5714705b971512490036) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/3A827BE3-0FA6-40BB-AFA5-06AED2B14D50.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2FA521FD86-227F-47A8-ABB5-0792D581DACF.jpg&hash=0d4adca802d947ac81ad37c69f873cbfe93eb4fe) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/A521FD86-227F-47A8-ABB5-0792D581DACF.jpg.html)
Please be constructive and let me know what you think!
Cheers,
Tegan
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I got my ears pierced last night.. Here's a photo showing off my huge ears and nose and jaw.. the angle made my ears look bigger than they are, but look! Little skulls! :)
plus on front one.. someday I'll take a photo revealing my brow area.. and then children will weep. Also I fear my chin is too long for comfort.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2F10487398_10152786457842851_6104927998286315706_n.jpg&hash=b1a9bb56d47b52fdd883dd5e52571c27f2a12c24) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/10487398_10152786457842851_6104927998286315706_n.jpg.html)
The ear piercing lady didn't seem to clock me, which I thought was miraculous considering how close she was to my face.. :o
I think you are rather pretty and should have no worries :icon_chick:
@Damara: You look amazing! I think you really don't have anything to worry about.
Damara always looks amazing! ;)
Do I pass here? I liked this picture for some reason and thought I'd share. Took it yesterday.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wizards-domain.com%2Fjade%2Fpass.jpg&hash=0ab437fb0e3dee25bd0c2278e0be7ec49b022717)
Pass, a total babe :)
Quote from: Jade_404 on January 18, 2015, 08:36:15 AM
Damara always looks amazing! ;)
Do I pass here? I liked this picture for some reason and thought I'd share. Took it yesterday.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wizards-domain.com%2Fjade%2Fpass.jpg&hash=0ab437fb0e3dee25bd0c2278e0be7ec49b022717)
My first pic showing my real hair :)
It's becoming a long pixie cut and I thought of sharing this to you all. I had to match it with my favourite pearl earrings for that classy look :-* Love you guys xo
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYVLeN41.jpg&hash=29dc1e41f369fff0d441fea7e8344734d3f6510e)
Quote from: carmenkate on January 18, 2015, 09:01:19 PM
My first pic showing my real hair :)
It's becoming a long pixie cut and I thought of sharing this to you all. I had to match it with my favourite pearl earrings for that classy look :-* Love you guys xo
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYVLeN41.jpg&hash=29dc1e41f369fff0d441fea7e8344734d3f6510e)
looking good
Damara & carmenkate you both pass, its pretty amazing watching everyone post their selfies on here, I have to say you girls all make me really stoked about accepting being trans and I can't wait to get on hrt.
Quote from: carmenkate on January 18, 2015, 09:01:19 PM
My first pic showing my real hair :)
It's becoming a long pixie cut and I thought of sharing this to you all. I had to match it with my favourite pearl earrings for that classy look :-* Love you guys xo
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYVLeN41.jpg&hash=29dc1e41f369fff0d441fea7e8344734d3f6510e)
Wow! Nice. you always look so happy , I love that!
Thanks for your complement also, made me blush a bit... hehe
-Jade
Quote from: Jade_404 on January 18, 2015, 08:36:15 AM
Damara always looks amazing! ;)
Do I pass here? I liked this picture for some reason and thought I'd share. Took it yesterday.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wizards-domain.com%2Fjade%2Fpass.jpg&hash=0ab437fb0e3dee25bd0c2278e0be7ec49b022717)
Sorry sweetie, you do not pass as a guy! *giggle* :)
Jade, you are truly a babe, inside and out. Own it girl xo
Thanks Billie xoxo...you are looking pretty cute yourself in your avatar. I hope you start HRT sooner.
Kisses
April
Quote from: Billie97470 on January 18, 2015, 09:30:07 PM
Damara & carmenkate you both pass, its pretty amazing watching everyone post their selfies on here, I have to say you girls all make me really stoked about accepting being trans and I can't wait to get on hrt.
Quote from: carmenkate on January 18, 2015, 09:01:19 PM
My first pic showing my real hair :)
It's becoming a long pixie cut and I thought of sharing this to you all. I had to match it with my favourite pearl earrings for that classy look :-* Love you guys xo
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYVLeN41.jpg&hash=29dc1e41f369fff0d441fea7e8344734d3f6510e)
Isn't real hair the bomb girl? You are looking so cute!! :)
OMG Jess, you crack me up girlfriend. Yes it is ;)
I am taking every single hair supplements known to mankind to grow my mane LOL and so far I am seeing results. Plus the weekly castor oil routine.
Jess, did anyone tell you lately that you are pretty hot yourself? Well if the answer is NO, then let me tell you that you are the bombdotcom hands down to being beautiful.
Kisses
April
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on January 18, 2015, 10:01:37 PM
Isn't real hair the bomb girl? You are looking so cute!! :)
I've posted these pics elsewhere before.... And I don't like the word 'pass' as I have said many times before... But eh... Yeah... What do you think? ... With relevance to the question on the thread :3
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Please be harsh and sincere, I prefer it :)
There was only one pic that wasn't a reply on this page so here goes....
Jade_404: Well... If you want honesty... I'd clock you... But then again I have a tendency to examine every last feature people have... (Sorry, I'm not as superficial as I come across lol) Don't want to hurt anyone's feelings so I won't point out what, unless you really want to know :) But it's mostly the pose... :)
Quote from: carmenkate on January 18, 2015, 10:06:43 PM
Jess, did anyone tell you lately that you are pretty hot yourself? Well if the answer is NO, then let me tell you that you are the bombdotcom hands down to being beautiful.
I am blushing now!! You know how hard that is to do to me??? :)
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on January 18, 2015, 09:44:12 PM
Sorry sweetie, you do not pass as a guy! *giggle* :)
I read this and was like... WHAAAT... oh wait ... hehe. you tricked me! haha ;D
thanks for the complement!
-Jade
Quote from: Jade_404 on January 18, 2015, 10:28:31 PM
I read this and was like... WHAAAT... oh wait ... hehe. you tricked me! haha ;D
thanks for the complement!
-Jade
You bet girl!! Got to watch me closely. ;D
Quote from: bluebirdx88 on January 18, 2015, 10:07:19 PM
I've posted these pics elsewhere before.... And I don't like the word 'pass' as I have said many times before... But eh... Yeah... What do you think? ... With relevance to the question on the thread :3
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Please be harsh and sincere, I prefer it :)
There was only one pic that wasn't a reply on this page so here goes....
Jade_404: Well... If you want honesty... I'd clock you... But then again I have a tendency to examine every last feature people have... (Sorry, I'm not as superficial as I come across lol) Don't want to hurt anyone's feelings so I won't point out what, unless you really want to know :) But it's mostly the pose... :)
First off bluebirdx88, I think you are looking good, look like a girl to me. Your eyes are gorgeous !
Second, sure tell me what clocked me it won't hurt too much. I know my adams apple is huge... not much I can do with it till I get it shaved down :( I did not have makeup on except lip gloss , so I am sure if I did do makeup It would of helped. Once I start HRT I think things should progress nicely, I just wish it would help in the adams apple area... ugh I hate that thing! Fire away, tell me what I can do to be more passable. My GG friend was supposed to come over and help me dye / style my hair and to do my eye brows better but she got busy with other things. I will post a pic after that.
-Jade
Quote from: Jade_404 on January 18, 2015, 10:42:49 PM
First off bluebirdx88, I think you are looking good, passable to me. Your eyes are gorgeous !
Second, sure tell me what clocked me it won't hurt too much. I know my adams apple is huge... not much I can do with it till I get it shaved down :( I did not have makeup on except lip gloss , so I am sure if I did do makeup It would of helped. Once I start HRT I think things should progress nicely, I just wish it would help in the adams apple area... ugh I hate that thing! Fire away, tell me what I can do to be more passable. My GG friend was supposed to come over and help me dye / style my hair and to do my eye brows better but she got busy with other things. I will post a pic after that.
-Jade
Why, thank you!!!!
Well uhm.. You kinda hit the spot when you mentioned the apple of adam.... Keep in mind that by changing pose and wearing certain things it'll be a lot less visible... I mean mine will show up quite clearly when I turn to look sideways... Alas, I usually move my entire torso to look ;) You'll be fine once HRT starts doing it's work, my biggest piece of advice is pacience! :)
Your eyebrows aren't that bad... Try to avoid making them too thin as that's kind of a dead giveaway... I mean sure they can look good if they're fine or drawn.. But you have to do them very very very perfectly... Mine are kinda bushy if you look close but they're neat... Neat and tidy and try to keep a shape that suits you... As they change your facial features considerably..... That is my main advice for there.
Anywho, to the point.... Your pose is the the thing that I noticed first... You gotta relax before pics, it'll help look more natural and that's relevant to everything, not just 'passing'.... Casual = Natural = Shows more confidence = Better :) I've noticed that many girls here have a tendancy to stare or look at the camera with a menacing look for pics.. That will work AGAINST you.... An honest smile is better, seriously :)
So... My tip? Pacience, everything comes.... And smile more, yesh? :) The camera isn't an enemy so don't look at it as if it were! :D
Quote from: bluebirdx88 on January 18, 2015, 10:52:00 PM
Anywho, to the point.... Your pose is the the thing that I noticed first... You gotta relax before pics, it'll help look more natural and that's relevant to everything, not just 'passing'.... Casual = Natural = Shows more confidence = Better :) I've noticed that many girls here have a tendancy to stare or look at the camera with a menacing look for pics.. That will work AGAINST you.... An honest smile is better, seriously :)
So... My tip? Pacience, everything comes.... And smile more, yesh? :) The camera isn't an enemy so don't look at it as if it were! :D
Ok cool, I was not posing actually just lifting myself up in my chair, when I played back the vid and I snapped a still of that pic. I usually do smile but I kinda liked the menacing look of this one, hehe. I will be sure to smile and try to be more relaxed in the next one. Thanks for your honesty! :)
Quote from: Jade_404 on January 18, 2015, 11:00:51 PM
Ok cool, I was not posing actually just lifting myself up in my chair, when I played back the vid and I snapped a still of that pic. I usually do smile but I kinda liked the menacing look of this one, hehe. I will be sure to smile and try to be more relaxed in the next one. Thanks for your honesty! :)
Anytime! You're most welcome! I'd have liked people to have been more critical of me honestly back in the day, so yupppp glad I've been of help :D I seeee.... That explains a lot, hehe.... I was wondering why you where grabbing on to the armrest like that :P I know it's not relevant but.... Take pics in direct sunlight, all of mine were done with sun blazing through the window... The effect is awesome. (If you can avoid blinking that is haha)
Quote from: bluebirdx88 on January 18, 2015, 11:07:08 PM
Anytime! You're most welcome! I'd have liked people to have been more critical of me honestly back in the day, so yupppp glad I've been of help :D I seeee.... That explains a lot, hehe.... I was wondering why you where grabbing on to the armrest like that :P I know it's not relevant but.... Take pics in direct sunlight, all of mine were done with sun blazing through the window... The effect is awesome. (If you can avoid blinking that is haha)
I don't go out in the sunlight, I am asleep then. My friends think I am a vampire... they might be right (evil laugh) hahahaha
Quote from: carmenkate on January 18, 2015, 09:01:19 PM
My first pic showing my real hair :)
It's becoming a long pixie cut and I thought of sharing this to you all. I had to match it with my favourite pearl earrings for that classy look :-* Love you guys xo
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYVLeN41.jpg&hash=29dc1e41f369fff0d441fea7e8344734d3f6510e)
wow looking smashing say good bye to the hair piece you def don't need it anymore.
Love your natural hair [emoji2]
Pixie kiss for u
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Quote from: carmenkate on January 18, 2015, 09:01:19 PM
My first pic showing my real hair :)
It's becoming a long pixie cut and I thought of sharing this to you all. I had to match it with my favourite pearl earrings for that classy look :-* Love you guys xo
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYVLeN41.jpg&hash=29dc1e41f369fff0d441fea7e8344734d3f6510e)
April,
Can't believe you've been hiding these lovely locks under a wig all this time!
You look fab hun and pearl ear rings go well with the hair and make up :)
Thank you Ms. Beautiful
Hugs and Kisses - Loving your looks babe.
April xo
Quote from: Summer on January 19, 2015, 04:03:53 AM
wow looking smashing say good bye to the hair piece you def don't need it anymore.
Love your natural hair [emoji2]
Pixie kiss for u
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Thank you Ms.Leila,
Much respect and admiration for you. Thanks beautiful
April xo
Quote from: Leila on January 19, 2015, 04:46:40 AM
April,
Can't believe you've been hiding these lovely locks under a wig all this time!
You look fab hun and pearl ear rings go well with the hair and make up :)
Quote from: Jade_404 on January 18, 2015, 11:24:16 PM
I don't go out in the sunlight, I am asleep then. My friends think I am a vampire... they might be right (evil laugh) hahahaha
Eh... I'm right there with you... So much more productive at night, hahahaha.... But there's plenty of sun in the evening to take 'em... Unless you literally are a vampire, in which case... :O lol
Thought I'd add that I hated the sun pre-HRT, avoided it like fire.. Hated the heat and how it felt... However since I started I think I truly enjoy it, it's comforting to feel and tanning can be fun, spesh if you're with friends :) I really did enjoy the summer....
PS.... I took a big liking to chocolate too... Careful of spots, lol
Quote from: Jade_404 on January 18, 2015, 08:36:15 AM
Damara always looks amazing! ;)
Do I pass here? I liked this picture for some reason and thought I'd share. Took it yesterday.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wizards-domain.com%2Fjade%2Fpass.jpg&hash=0ab437fb0e3dee25bd0c2278e0be7ec49b022717)
I agree with Jessica! No guy here!!! :D <3 and awww! You're so sweeeeet! ;D
Quote from: Hikari on January 18, 2015, 03:40:13 AM
@Damara: You look amazing! I think you really don't have anything to worry about.
<3 Thank you! Omg, I am so happy!!
(Reposting this since I finally figured how to post pics)
I know this thread is mostly meant for pics of faces, but I am pre-everything and in the closet and really scared of being found out. But I really want to know whether I stand any chance of passing as female if/when I ever decide to transition.
So here are a couple of my full-body pics with the head cropped:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs15.postimg.org%2Fttg127c63%2Fimage.jpg&hash=4d76f2201669545607b94da07b68b8cabeb252ff)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs12.postimg.org%2Fi95vlm5tp%2Fimage.jpg&hash=8c1f6b08311fe8f1374f0701814ca7f5525bede9)
The first one also shows my elbow angle. It's about as 'straight' as I can make it. I shaved my body hair last about 2 weeks ago. I am also looking to lose about 20 pounds this year.
What do you'll think? Do I have a chance, or am I too masculine / chunky? Is the elbow angle thing for real or is it just my imagination? Any other comments?
@ those who have posted here before: most of you look fabulous already, and your transition journeys have inspired me to be a little more open about myself, even if it's still just a tiny bit. Now I am sorry if I am sounding too needy, but please give me some feedback on my pics. The more brutally honest the better. I know it's hard to say anything without looking at the face, but this is all I can share as of now. I just need to know if I am a lost cause or if there is some hope. It will help in figuring out how do I deal with my dysphoria from here on.
très cute, ma belle!
Quote from: carmenkate on January 18, 2015, 09:01:19 PM
My first pic showing my real hair :)
It's becoming a long pixie cut and I thought of sharing this to you all. I had to match it with my favourite pearl earrings for that classy look :-* Love you guys xo
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYVLeN41.jpg&hash=29dc1e41f369fff0d441fea7e8344734d3f6510e)
Quote from: cindy16 on January 19, 2015, 01:24:56 PM
@ those who have posted here before: most of you look fabulous already, and your transition journeys have inspired me to be a little more open about myself, even if it's still just a tiny bit. Now I am sorry if I am sounding too needy, but please give me some feedback on my pics. The more brutally honest the better. I know it's hard to say anything without looking at the face, but this is all I can share as of now. I just need to know if I am a lost cause or if there is some hope. It will help in figuring out how do I deal with my dysphoria from here on.
You are not a "lost cause" don't even say that. I don't understand what "arm bend " you are worried about. Ok so, honestly front on shot with a dark color outfit is real hard to tell. To me your body does not look that manly so I am sure you will have a chance of passing once on HRT. I have seen amazing before and after photos when the body started as very muscular and manly. I also read a post a while back on some feminizing exercises, you may want to search that in the forums, has some good routines to help shape your body / hips / waist.
Again, a frontal picture is hard to tell when in dark cloths with dark background on one side..
-Jade
Quote from: cindy16 on January 19, 2015, 08:21:25 AM
(Reposting this since I finally figured how to post pics)
I know this thread is mostly meant for pics of faces, but I am pre-everything and in the closet and really scared of being found out. But I really want to know whether I stand any chance of passing as female if/when I ever decide to transition.
So here are a couple of my full-body pics with the head cropped:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs15.postimg.org%2Fttg127c63%2Fimage.jpg&hash=4d76f2201669545607b94da07b68b8cabeb252ff)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs12.postimg.org%2Fi95vlm5tp%2Fimage.jpg&hash=8c1f6b08311fe8f1374f0701814ca7f5525bede9)
The first one also shows my elbow angle. It's about as 'straight' as I can make it. I shaved my body hair last about 2 weeks ago. I am also looking to lose about 20 pounds this year.
What do you'll think? Do I have a chance, or am I too masculine / chunky? Is the elbow angle thing for real or is it just my imagination? Any other comments?
Cindy, I honestly think that you have absolutely nothing to worry about - your body is perfect, and I have no doubt that your face is just as pretty. Someone more experienced can critique the arm angles and such; however, from the standpoint of attractiveness and whether or not you should be confident/comfortable, you are gorgeous. Should you ever decide to transition, your mind can be at ease - you are already passable. :)
Quote from: carmenkate on January 18, 2015, 09:01:19 PM
My first pic showing my real hair :)
It's becoming a long pixie cut and I thought of sharing this to you all. I had to match it with my favourite pearl earrings for that classy look :-* Love you guys xo
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYVLeN41.jpg&hash=29dc1e41f369fff0d441fea7e8344734d3f6510e)
Wow April, congratulations on your hair. You're looking very feminine.
-Alana
Thanks Ms. Beautiful :)
xoxo
April
Quote from: Alana_Jane on January 19, 2015, 07:35:30 PM
Wow April, congratulations on your hair. You're looking very feminine.
-Alana
@ Jade and umterps: Thank you so much. That's really encouraging to read. I know the clothing, lighting, background etc is not perfect, but I tried a few other combinations and a side profile etc and it wasn't much better. The background is light on one side and dark on the other so either way it is a problem. Also, I have never really liked clothes which fit too closely, or pics that show me that way, and posting my pics online like this was also for the first time ever. (Yes, I do have pics of my 'regular life' online but I just prefer to be lost in the background / landscape in those)
Anyway, it is good to read your replies. I have never been too muscular, but now that I accepted my GD and tried to look at myself as female, I couldn't see that either. About the elbow angle, I had read about how it is different for men and women, and that trans-women may have it closer to cis-women, though it is not a necessary condition. So I asked someone who knew about this, and he explained the biological reasons and all to me, but when I showed him my elbow angle, he just dismissed it saying it is within the normal range for males. So I was a bit skeptical about whether I am just imagining too much about myself.
Hi folks. Hair is obviously too short and doing something weird at the back and really need to start smiling in photos, but here's a pic of me in female clothes and subtle (too subtle perhaps) makeup. I did try with eyeliner but failed miserably! Obviously a long way to go but grateful for any feedback.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1381.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah221%2Fkcoghlan85%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FDSC_0043_zpsha2avpjg.jpg&hash=37e15dfc9dffc1f06a3322b0ba95547789544061)
Quote from: LittleV on January 16, 2015, 09:39:56 AM
Thanks! I was hoping hrt could make me into someone more petite like you. Always felt a bit rugged, especially the shoulders.
you have a really slight frame and long term HRT will definitely take away the muscle mass of your upper body. I looked a bit like you in the arms until HRT melted it away
I'd say if you smiled in a few of the pictures and posed better that it would make a world of difference
The only thing that has any bulk to it on you looks like your trapezius, but it just makes you look like you can kick some butt as opposed to screaming 'male'
IMO the light gray/white striped shirt is the best look on you... the floral print one really accentuates your upper body. I have that same problem with different shirts
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F1183ms7.jpg&hash=9326280dcdc697db6b35f3ab5a5fec7125db618b)
Just a quick pic from yesterday, tired after a long day of tennis :D
I'm pre everything. But currently happy despite that.
I do hope to change that in the future.
@ Starla: Wow, I can't believe you are pre everything!
Quote from: cindy16 on January 20, 2015, 11:07:25 AM
@ Starla: Wow, I can't believe you are pre everything!
Yeah I agree. Wow!
-Jade
Quote from: Kiera85 on January 20, 2015, 08:20:19 AM
Hi folks. Hair is obviously too short and doing something weird at the back and really need to start smiling in photos, but here's a pic of me in female clothes and subtle (too subtle perhaps) makeup. I did try with eyeliner but failed miserably! Obviously a long way to go but grateful for any feedback.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1381.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah221%2Fkcoghlan85%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FDSC_0043_zpsha2avpjg.jpg&hash=37e15dfc9dffc1f06a3322b0ba95547789544061)
Nice Kiera. You look good. The light from the window behind you makes it a bit hard to see makeup or features in your face. And yeah smiling will help you glow more feminine. The outfit and your body looks feminine to me. But yeah, the window light behind you is not doing you any favors and may be taking away from your face appearing more feminine. The hair is getting there!! Yay
-Jade
:-*
I like the way your body looks :) I sometimes feel like my body looks like a straight log.
However, passing is a tricky game. It's a process - with my short hair I pass most of time. If I feel I don't, I just shrug it off and would tell myself what they think about me isn't my business. Passing is also confidence even if you don't feel passing.
Be who you want to be - remember to be Kind, Respectful and Love Hard. Keep that chin high xo
Quote from: cindy16 on January 19, 2015, 11:17:41 PM
@ Jade and umterps: Thank you so much. That's really encouraging to read. I know the clothing, lighting, background etc is not perfect, but I tried a few other combinations and a side profile etc and it wasn't much better. The background is light on one side and dark on the other so either way it is a problem. Also, I have never really liked clothes which fit too closely, or pics that show me that way, and posting my pics online like this was also for the first time ever. (Yes, I do have pics of my 'regular life' online but I just prefer to be lost in the background / landscape in those)
Anyway, it is good to read your replies. I have never been too muscular, but now that I accepted my GD and tried to look at myself as female, I couldn't see that either. About the elbow angle, I had read about how it is different for men and women, and that trans-women may have it closer to cis-women, though it is not a necessary condition. So I asked someone who knew about this, and he explained the biological reasons and all to me, but when I showed him my elbow angle, he just dismissed it saying it is within the normal range for males. So I was a bit skeptical about whether I am just imagining too much about myself.
Thanks Jade :D Good point about the window, didn't think of that.
Thanks April. You look pretty in the new hairstyle.
@ Kiera: I agree with Jade. Some good lighting and a smile can often make a huge difference. Despite that, the clothes, body and hair are already there.
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on January 17, 2015, 09:41:32 PM
Hey all,
Just hanging out after a long week, and randomly decided to try on my new shirt. I'm just under 3 months HRT, and am only wearing lipstick. I'm aware of the beard shadow, and am having another session Monday. Also, I intend to deal with the adams apple as soon as possible, and before I go public. Anyway, how am I progressing?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2F4FA95928-9A7C-4053-A3B0-B1D32C95A877.jpg&hash=d2477062af882e5e4c9f79a9602ab0e310a00d43) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/4FA95928-9A7C-4053-A3B0-B1D32C95A877.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2FFEEBD3C0-8F54-423C-B7CE-D50B8A0021FF.jpg&hash=02562e28dd150308cf14f63c82bfdc2617488e1a) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/FEEBD3C0-8F54-423C-B7CE-D50B8A0021FF.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2F9407055C-FC92-4F44-972C-0065EB33FB58.jpg&hash=442b20d1682dc30f06a64142e7fc209b3d6a1327) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/9407055C-FC92-4F44-972C-0065EB33FB58.jpg.html)
Please be constructive and let me know what you think!
Cheers,
Tegan
Hey Tegan,
I edited your post a little to focus on 3 picts. In the first 2 I think you are looking great. Maybe just relax a little more, loosen up :) Something in your pose seems rigid or forced , but I can't place my finger on it. But yeah you look nice, and happy too :)
In the third pic, try using red lipstick on and around your beard / mustache shadow (apply and then dab it in with your finger until blended) and then cover that with appropriate foundation color. I know it sounds crazy using (red) but what it does since your hair is so dark is it opposes the (blues) in your black hair and makes the shadow way harder to see and blends it in better.
Hope you don't take offense of me noticing your shadow since you pointed it out first :P... just trying to give you tips :D
-Jade
:-*
Quote from: lightvi on January 20, 2015, 05:38:38 PM
Ugh I'm having a day where I feel ugly and start seeing male features everywhere. I feel like I look like a dude today and it's upsetting. So yes, I am looking for some reassurance haha. ;)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi801.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy299%2Findustrialmidnight%2FIMG_20150120_150442_zps610bb06c.jpg&hash=7b64c9ff91218b54885152bd11a8937d0aac1360)
??? You looks a girl to me
Quote from: cindy16 on January 20, 2015, 03:17:05 PM
@ Kiera: I agree with Jade. Some good lighting and a smile can often make a huge difference. Despite that, the clothes, body and hair are already there.
Thanks Cindy :)
Quote from: Hideyoshi on January 20, 2015, 08:20:22 AM
you have a really slight frame and long term HRT will definitely take away the muscle mass of your upper body. I looked a bit like you in the arms until HRT melted it away
I'd say if you smiled in a few of the pictures and posed better that it would make a world of difference
The only thing that has any bulk to it on you looks like your trapezius, but it just makes you look like you can kick some butt as opposed to screaming 'male'
IMO the light gray/white striped shirt is the best look on you... the floral print one really accentuates your upper body. I have that same problem with different shirts
Even if I don't 'kick butt' thanks a lot!
But seriously, with 17+ inch shoulders and 12 5/8 hips I can only hope I'd get less bulkier. Even though I know my arms did thin down a little and the trapezius was dramatically less pronounced when I was on HRT... I think I have a picture as a proof of that. But my body is more or less on the 'default' level as is. I'm looking into pushing some of the bulk into my hips now.
I, too, liked that shirt the best. I wish I could find something alike to wear while I'm still in constant 'boy-mode' without getting too much attention. I've always liked cute things it's just I never could wear them in my life.
Rotated the image for you
Quote from: cindy16 on January 20, 2015, 11:07:25 AM
@ Starla: Wow, I can't believe you are pre everything!
Thanks? Lol.
I have huge confidence issues due to the fact that I am pre everything and my chest is flat as a board and I have this unwanted package between my legs :D
But again, I hope to make major changes in the future. I just have to continue to work on my confidence and learn how to deal with the insecurity until I can fix it.
I got buried before I could get any feedback, so I'm cutting back to the front of the line.
This one's hot off the iPad last night:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FA3F5D8EB-F2CD-4E1F-8397-FCF9624F0FC9.jpg&hash=a4b5b45e73804f2e111a144b00477a5e8be99dd2) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/A3F5D8EB-F2CD-4E1F-8397-FCF9624F0FC9.jpg.html)
The rest are from about a week ago.
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on January 17, 2015, 09:41:32 PM
Hey all,
Just hanging out after a long week, and randomly decided to try on my new shirt. I'm just under 3 months HRT, and am only wearing lipstick. I'm aware of the beard shadow, and am having another session Monday. Also, I intend to deal with the adams apple as soon as possible, and before I go public. Anyway, how am I progressing?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2F4FA95928-9A7C-4053-A3B0-B1D32C95A877.jpg&hash=d2477062af882e5e4c9f79a9602ab0e310a00d43) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/4FA95928-9A7C-4053-A3B0-B1D32C95A877.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2FFEEBD3C0-8F54-423C-B7CE-D50B8A0021FF.jpg&hash=02562e28dd150308cf14f63c82bfdc2617488e1a) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/FEEBD3C0-8F54-423C-B7CE-D50B8A0021FF.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2F4DDEE6A6-82E2-4DC4-9B3D-A792B881CA3E.jpg&hash=e9fb43d7ec2b9636254e2f6fcd85e1ced7e4fc5c) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/4DDEE6A6-82E2-4DC4-9B3D-A792B881CA3E.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2F9407055C-FC92-4F44-972C-0065EB33FB58.jpg&hash=442b20d1682dc30f06a64142e7fc209b3d6a1327) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/9407055C-FC92-4F44-972C-0065EB33FB58.jpg.html)
A little earlier in the week. I'm not so sure that the dress is flattering to my shape. At least not yet. Thoughts?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2F513739CC-4DA8-4B54-99EE-8E8DA413C163.jpg&hash=8ccf9be2cde87fb61df703b83fda1bccb06c9ba7) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/513739CC-4DA8-4B54-99EE-8E8DA413C163.jpg.html)
And just for yucks, here's full-on boy-mode. At work earlier this week, and at home:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2F3A827BE3-0FA6-40BB-AFA5-06AED2B14D50.jpg&hash=f22586fd34370383682f5714705b971512490036) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/3A827BE3-0FA6-40BB-AFA5-06AED2B14D50.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2FA521FD86-227F-47A8-ABB5-0792D581DACF.jpg&hash=0d4adca802d947ac81ad37c69f873cbfe93eb4fe) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/A521FD86-227F-47A8-ABB5-0792D581DACF.jpg.html)
Please be constructive and let me know what you think!
Cheers,
Tegan
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on January 21, 2015, 10:37:03 AM
I got buried before I could get any feedback, so I'm cutting back to the front of the line.
This one's hot off the iPad last night:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FA3F5D8EB-F2CD-4E1F-8397-FCF9624F0FC9.jpg&hash=a4b5b45e73804f2e111a144b00477a5e8be99dd2) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/A3F5D8EB-F2CD-4E1F-8397-FCF9624F0FC9.jpg.html)
The rest are from about a week ago.
I commented on some of those other photos, but I have to say, your hair in the new one looks really nice.
-Jade
Quote from: Jade_404 on January 20, 2015, 04:39:50 PM
Hey Tegan,
I edited your post a little to focus on 3 picts. In the first 2 I think you are looking great. Maybe just relax a little more, loosen up :) Something in your pose seems rigid or forced , but I can't place my finger on it. But yeah you look nice, and happy too :)
In the third pic, try using red lipstick on and around your beard / mustache shadow (apply and then dab it in with your finger until blended) and then cover that with appropriate foundation color. I know it sounds crazy using (red) but what it does since your hair is so dark is it opposes the (blues) in your black hair and makes the shadow way harder to see and blends it in better.
Hope you don't take offense of me noticing your shadow since you pointed it out first :P... just trying to give you tips :D
-Jade
:-*
Thanks for the tip. I appreciate it.
Like I say, I wouldn't leave the house with my shadow that obvious; this is just me hanging around with no audience but my cats. I'm wearing no makeup there besides the lipstick. Next time I do get dressed up, though, I'll try your idea.
Teg
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on January 21, 2015, 10:37:03 AM
I got buried before I could get any feedback, so I'm cutting back to the front of the line.
Girl you've got the tummy I'm dying for.
Quote from: LittleV on January 20, 2015, 06:40:34 PM
Even if I don't 'kick butt' thanks a lot!
But seriously, with 17+ inch shoulders and 12 5/8 hips I can only hope I'd get less bulkier. Even though I know my arms did thin down a little and the trapezius was dramatically less pronounced when I was on HRT... I think I have a picture as a proof of that. But my body is more or less on the 'default' level as is. I'm looking into pushing some of the bulk into my hips now.
I, too, liked that shirt the best. I wish I could find something alike to wear while I'm still in constant 'boy-mode' without getting too much attention. I've always liked cute things it's just I never could wear them in my life.
I found that when my biceps were pre-hrt, girl shirts didn't quite look right. Sleeves were too short and brought out my arms. Try a small unisex T shirt, maybe with a graphic on the front that's andro. They have the skin tight look but the sleeves are a few inches longer. A pair of plain girl's skinny jeans pairs well with a shirt like that. I have a yaoi shirt (just with ヤオイ on the front of it) that was in a small and it fit the bill quite nicely.
I always liked black shirts, and black is thinning, so there's that
I'm going to post a couple here from today. Let me know if anybody has ideas. I have a long face and try to even it out with make up with variable success...Just ordered some slimmer glasses too...Anyway, thanks girls!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOtaSr6d.jpg%3F1&hash=01d733270425257b3c2deebe61d6e77be9b67876)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FaxJ3Kkq.jpg&hash=1f3498c8b6faabfd3fc1dd156a53ba32a865432e)
Quote from: Jessica_Rainshadow on January 21, 2015, 02:25:44 PM
I'm going to post a couple here from today. Let me know if anybody has ideas. I have a long face and try to even it out with make up with variable success...Just ordered some slimmer glasses too...Anyway, thanks girls!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOtaSr6d.jpg%3F1&hash=01d733270425257b3c2deebe61d6e77be9b67876)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FaxJ3Kkq.jpg&hash=1f3498c8b6faabfd3fc1dd156a53ba32a865432e)
Jess,
If I had a suggestion to make, I would say to further thin out your eyebrows. They could stand a little bit more delicacy. Also, a brighter shade of lipstick will enhance your lips and draw the eyes to that region of your face.
Great style.
-Teg
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on January 21, 2015, 02:40:32 PM
Jess,
I had a suggestion to make, I would say to further thin out your eyebrow. They could stand a little bit more delicate. Also, a brighter shade of lipstick will enhance your lips and draw the eyes to that region of your face.
Great style.
-Teg
Ugh yes my eyebrows are my nemesis. They are coarse and grow every which way. I'm going to take your advice though and start plucking. Thanks!
No HRT yet, just diet and exercise and a lot of weight left to lose, but what do you guys think? Full boymode picture.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi10.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa126%2FKodaffxi%2F20150120_0857051_zps02058e3e.jpg&hash=02da462e48ac8408fe0831d069e7f67b814b3842)
With my hair and makeup all done I'm pretty satisfied that I know how I'm perceived. Without those, I'm not sure. What do you guys think? Fresh out of the shower:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1377.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah64%2Fspookee1%2FPhotoon2015-01-22at1204_zps15040951.jpg&hash=11a86091e9941595327428788ea35b6e08f00f18)
@ MissBetaFish: I think you will do great with longer hair and HRT.
@ spooky: Makeup or no makeup, you look nothing but a pretty female.
Quote from: spooky on January 22, 2015, 11:14:46 AM
With my hair and makeup all done I'm pretty satisfied that I know how I'm perceived. Without those, I'm not sure. What do you guys think? Fresh out of the shower:
After seeing ur pic makes it hard for me to think. Beautiful women have this effect on me ;)
Quote from: spooky on January 22, 2015, 11:14:46 AM
With my hair and makeup all done I'm pretty satisfied that I know how I'm perceived. Without those, I'm not sure. What do you guys think? Fresh out of the shower:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1377.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah64%2Fspookee1%2FPhotoon2015-01-22at1204_zps15040951.jpg&hash=11a86091e9941595327428788ea35b6e08f00f18) (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/spookee1/media/Photoon2015-01-22at1204_zps15040951.jpg.html)
This is 100% the truth: If I saw this pic on any other website, there isn't the slightest chance I would ever think you are trans.
Quote from: cindy16 on January 22, 2015, 11:40:19 AM
@ spooky: Makeup or no makeup, you look nothing but a pretty female.
Quote from: amber roskamp on January 22, 2015, 11:52:40 AM
After seeing ur pic makes it hard for me to think. Beautiful women have this effect on me ;)
Quote from: Squircle on January 22, 2015, 02:15:02 PM
This is 100% the truth: If I saw this pic on any other website, there isn't the slightest chance I would ever think you are trans.
Thanks girls! Your perspectives are greatly appreciated. ;D Ever since starting transition I've been that girl who refuses to leave the house without perfect makeup. I still love makeup but you guys gave me the confidence to go for a truly no-makeup makeup look today.
Amber you made me blush. :icon_chick:
I just took these a few minutes ago. This is what I look like at work (minus the uniform). Can't wear a lot of make-up (I usually only do mascara) and can only wear simple stud earrings (probably can't see them very well :P).
How do I do? ^_^
<3
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fi4A2Ugs.jpg&hash=ff3b2f053a339703dae0270f4150a6a327b1a2b5)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvHGxHmK.jpg&hash=949620f1b1dfafeb7ae7be30375e85afab48cb84)
Quote from: Ennaria on January 22, 2015, 06:38:28 PM
I just took these a few minutes ago. This is what I look like at work (minus the uniform). Can't wear a lot of make-up (I usually only do mascara) and can only wear simple stud earrings (probably can't see them very well :P).
How do I do? ^_^
<3
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fi4A2Ugs.jpg&hash=ff3b2f053a339703dae0270f4150a6a327b1a2b5)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvHGxHmK.jpg&hash=949620f1b1dfafeb7ae7be30375e85afab48cb84)
Cute!
-Jade
:-*
Super cute, super passable, I really envy you for your natural fem look :D
Quote from: Ennaria on January 22, 2015, 06:38:28 PM
I just took these a few minutes ago. This is what I look like at work (minus the uniform). Can't wear a lot of make-up (I usually only do mascara) and can only wear simple stud earrings (probably can't see them very well :P).
How do I do? ^_^
<3
Quote from: antonia on January 23, 2015, 01:26:01 AM
Super cute, super passable, I really envy you for your natural fem look :D
Thank you antonia. ^_^ That means so very much! ;D
<3
Quote from: Starla on January 20, 2015, 08:37:09 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F1183ms7.jpg&hash=9326280dcdc697db6b35f3ab5a5fec7125db618b)
Just a quick pic from yesterday, tired after a long day of tennis :D
I'm pre everything. But currently happy despite that.
I do hope to change that in the future.
omg game set match you already look amazing . When you start hrt wow say no more xoxo
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It's been years since I've been to this site with any regularity. Life and denial got in the way, but I'm finally moving forward. :)
The pictures below are my starting point. I'd like to get an idea of what I need to do to complete my look. I own no makeup (I'm not wearing any either), so if there are any recommendations for makeup, please give me specifics on what you think I need.
That is my natural hair, but I'm clueless what to do with it.
Suggestions welcome!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi885.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac58%2Fautumnrain80%2FKate2_zpsd32d6a7d.jpg&hash=97989c71dba40b29c796a7292080e96c4bac33d0) (http://s885.photobucket.com/user/autumnrain80/media/Kate2_zpsd32d6a7d.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi885.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac58%2Fautumnrain80%2FMySnapshot21_zps215c0c4c.jpg&hash=4ea6567185bed5408bb58fcf1fc18cd1691087c9) (http://s885.photobucket.com/user/autumnrain80/media/MySnapshot21_zps215c0c4c.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi885.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac58%2Fautumnrain80%2FMySnapshot9_zps8994e943.jpg&hash=9ed249112dc1492113795572b42705bee3dea6a1) (http://s885.photobucket.com/user/autumnrain80/media/MySnapshot9_zps8994e943.jpg.html)
Quote from: Just Kate on January 24, 2015, 01:17:10 AM
It's been years since I've been to this site with any regularity. Life and denial got in the way, but I'm finally moving forward. :)
The pictures below are my starting point. I'd like to get an idea of what I need to do to complete my look. I own no makeup (I'm not wearing any either), so if there are any recommendations for makeup, please give me specifics on what you think I need.
That is my natural hair, but I'm clueless what to do with it.
Suggestions welcome!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi885.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac58%2Fautumnrain80%2FKate2_zpsd32d6a7d.jpg&hash=97989c71dba40b29c796a7292080e96c4bac33d0) (http://s885.photobucket.com/user/autumnrain80/media/Kate2_zpsd32d6a7d.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi885.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac58%2Fautumnrain80%2FMySnapshot21_zps215c0c4c.jpg&hash=4ea6567185bed5408bb58fcf1fc18cd1691087c9) (http://s885.photobucket.com/user/autumnrain80/media/MySnapshot21_zps215c0c4c.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi885.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac58%2Fautumnrain80%2FMySnapshot9_zps8994e943.jpg&hash=9ed249112dc1492113795572b42705bee3dea6a1) (http://s885.photobucket.com/user/autumnrain80/media/MySnapshot9_zps8994e943.jpg.html)
I think you look awesome, very genuine! I don't think I'd have guessed at all. Naturally pretty :D
Quote from: Just Kate on January 24, 2015, 01:17:10 AM
It's been years since I've been to this site with any regularity. Life and denial got in the way, but I'm finally moving forward. :)
The pictures below are my starting point. I'd like to get an idea of what I need to do to complete my look. I own no makeup (I'm not wearing any either), so if there are any recommendations for makeup, please give me specifics on what you think I need.
That is my natural hair, but I'm clueless what to do with it.
Suggestions welcome!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi885.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac58%2Fautumnrain80%2FKate2_zpsd32d6a7d.jpg&hash=97989c71dba40b29c796a7292080e96c4bac33d0) (http://s885.photobucket.com/user/autumnrain80/media/Kate2_zpsd32d6a7d.jpg.html)
I think you are waaaaay better off than you may even realize;look very natural, very pretty. Honestly I don't see much here that needs to be changed; you've already grown your hair out, you don't have any really sharp features, go you!!!
Okay this is what i looked like when i dressed up prior to hormones....(Pictures 1-3)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1081.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj346%2Fqueenmonika%2F20140116_004204_zpss1zxrbbo-1.jpg&hash=6c2446147e5d1244de52936ffd99ada07a757fbf) (http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/queenmonika/media/20140116_004204_zpss1zxrbbo-1.jpg.html)
1. This is me as a red head
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1081.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj346%2Fqueenmonika%2F20131115_234531_zpsj7h3s9gm-1.jpg&hash=2661afa590feec0b3134505d006254306190946a) (http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/queenmonika/media/20131115_234531_zpsj7h3s9gm-1.jpg.html)
2. This is me in my punk rocker look.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1081.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj346%2Fqueenmonika%2F20140517_221429_zpszzpdhlme-1.jpg&hash=8d84aca802a061dd96271390993efef778ca95d5) (http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/queenmonika/media/20140517_221429_zpszzpdhlme-1.jpg.html)
3. This is me as a Blonde.
The next few were taken of me after the hormones:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1081.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj346%2Fqueenmonika%2F20140921_014422_zps9ga23axn-1.jpg&hash=f09aeef3e5094ded9273c81dbab2632c3923af19) (http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/queenmonika/media/20140921_014422_zps9ga23axn-1.jpg.html)
4. This is my standard look
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1081.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj346%2Fqueenmonika%2F20141014_190152_zpszhrxjcc8-1.jpg&hash=47ab97783f634a1f0081a608d0d76d17346fcf92) (http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/queenmonika/media/20141014_190152_zpszhrxjcc8-1.jpg.html)
5. Standard II
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1081.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj346%2Fqueenmonika%2F20141212_112711_zpszeateel3-1.jpg&hash=c7c83d5dcf27d5e419598e4be1aadad21e7e9498) (http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/queenmonika/media/20141212_112711_zpszeateel3-1.jpg.html)
6. Bold Red
Hey everyone, so please let me know if i look to manly...PLEASE tell me. Anyway looks #4 & 5 is the color i normally wear because that color resembles my true hair color.
I really want to know if i pass.
Thank you,
Quote from: Monika the diva on January 24, 2015, 08:00:10 PM
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2. This is me in my punk rocker look.
To me you don't look manly in any of the photos at all. Even before hormones (pic 2) you look more feminine than after hormones! Cool look :) Maybe its the glow! and the huge happy smile!
-Jade
:-*
Eek, ok I'm going to try this. I'm not sure Flickr allows offsite links, but here goes. No hormones yet. Hopefully by end of next month. Everything is me in the photo except the boobs and the hair.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8652/16314794855_d268616aba_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qRFA7t)new red tunic dress (https://flic.kr/p/qRFA7t) by Jessica Ann Jaymz (https://www.flickr.com/people/23453550@N05/), on Flickr
- Jess
Quote from: Monika the diva on January 24, 2015, 08:00:10 PM
Okay this is what i looked like when i dressed up prior to hormones....(Pictures 1-3)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1081.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj346%2Fqueenmonika%2F20140116_004204_zpss1zxrbbo-1.jpg&hash=6c2446147e5d1244de52936ffd99ada07a757fbf) (http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/queenmonika/media/20140116_004204_zpss1zxrbbo-1.jpg.html)
1. This is me as a red head
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1081.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj346%2Fqueenmonika%2F20131115_234531_zpsj7h3s9gm-1.jpg&hash=2661afa590feec0b3134505d006254306190946a) (http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/queenmonika/media/20131115_234531_zpsj7h3s9gm-1.jpg.html)
2. This is me in my punk rocker look.
Hey everyone, so please let me know if i look to manly...PLEASE tell me. Anyway looks #4 & 5 is the color i normally wear because that color resembles my true hair color.
I really want to know if i pass.
Thank you,
Monika,
These two are my favorites. I just think that they suit the girl that I see in the pictures the best.
Oh yeah, I see a girl in the pictures. All of them. No worries on that front, sweetie. ;)
You pass, oh yes, you pass. The question now is, which wigs are the best. Well, my vote is on number one and number two.
Keep on smiling!
Cheers,
Teg
Quote from: Just Kate on January 24, 2015, 01:17:10 AM
It's been years since I've been to this site with any regularity. Life and denial got in the way, but I'm finally moving forward. :)
The pictures below are my starting point. I'd like to get an idea of what I need to do to complete my look. I own no makeup (I'm not wearing any either), so if there are any recommendations for makeup, please give me specifics on what you think I need.
That is my natural hair, but I'm clueless what to do with it.
Suggestions welcome!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi885.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac58%2Fautumnrain80%2FKate2_zpsd32d6a7d.jpg&hash=97989c71dba40b29c796a7292080e96c4bac33d0) (http://s885.photobucket.com/user/autumnrain80/media/Kate2_zpsd32d6a7d.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi885.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac58%2Fautumnrain80%2FMySnapshot21_zps215c0c4c.jpg&hash=4ea6567185bed5408bb58fcf1fc18cd1691087c9) (http://s885.photobucket.com/user/autumnrain80/media/MySnapshot21_zps215c0c4c.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi885.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac58%2Fautumnrain80%2FMySnapshot9_zps8994e943.jpg&hash=9ed249112dc1492113795572b42705bee3dea6a1) (http://s885.photobucket.com/user/autumnrain80/media/MySnapshot9_zps8994e943.jpg.html)
Holy moly, Kate!
I think you may be lost; this thread is for transgender girls. :P
Really, though, you look amazing. Just amazing.
As far as hair goes, you have enough there to be able to step into a salon and ask them what they think. That's what I would do. Put yourself in the hands of a professional, and trust them.
Really, you look super good. :)
Sorry I could not be of more help, suggestion-wise.
Gosh, you look good. ;D
Cheers,
Teg
Feel like I should be passing even with the short hair, but still seeing a lot of my old self in these pictures. Is there anything that suggests male in these?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGOHB10p.png&hash=21f024821085d982041e05502974d34938ac28df)
It's odd, I'd say the first pic is a definite pass while the second is a bit ambiguous.
Here we go, I did a little make up and my nails. Love the nail color :)
What do you all think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wizards-domain.com%2Fjade%2Fnice.jpg&hash=449d4a5a593f95d72bb4744a1f392ab9b628736d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.postimg.org%2Fcsldrwxwr%2Fimage.jpg&hash=266cd7400146e6c094404f7c56a3dc6f5cd399ea)
Quote from: Jade_404 on January 25, 2015, 07:55:10 PM
Here we go, I did a little make up and my nails. Love the nail color :)
What do you all think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wizards-domain.com%2Fjade%2Fnice.jpg&hash=449d4a5a593f95d72bb4744a1f392ab9b628736d)
Jade you look pretty and passable to me, angle is also very flattering, Ooh nice nail color too :-*
L Katy
Quote from: Ennaria on January 22, 2015, 06:38:28 PM
I just took these a few minutes ago. This is what I look like at work (minus the uniform). Can't wear a lot of make-up (I usually only do mascara) and can only wear simple stud earrings (probably can't see them very well :P).
How do I do? ^_^
<3
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fi4A2Ugs.jpg&hash=ff3b2f053a339703dae0270f4150a6a327b1a2b5)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvHGxHmK.jpg&hash=949620f1b1dfafeb7ae7be30375e85afab48cb84)
Wow so envious of your natural feminine looks.... Stunning
L Katy :-*
Pre everything. no hrt. just having fun with makeup and my girl clothes :) Need to find a better match for my foundation (it's a little bit dark) or just start tanning to even things out more.
What do you think? :D (you won't hurt my feelings, be honest. If I look like a guy wearing makeup let me know before I go out in public like this lol)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2F2048830D-ED95-4854-B913-F20D8EACABE9_zpspnrxuvjf.jpg&hash=b21177748d7fdcbc51c74e7ec871b259da0c5b0a) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/2048830D-ED95-4854-B913-F20D8EACABE9_zpspnrxuvjf.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2F42AC2349-20A3-4C06-8911-C041E959DBDB_zpsb07pyorq.jpg&hash=b622a6962fc5de9c814a7ccb61663404eebe88ca) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/42AC2349-20A3-4C06-8911-C041E959DBDB_zpsb07pyorq.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FD79171DC-0CDF-42BF-BCBC-D6A4D430D475_zpsxpw6szm6.jpg&hash=d611dd55c8b64588fa7d0790c324a9afd88733d9) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/D79171DC-0CDF-42BF-BCBC-D6A4D430D475_zpsxpw6szm6.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FIMG_0862_zpse4b316a2_1.jpg&hash=416b575291fea75e73e7aa9d98e5492bf8e8b4de) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/IMG_0862_zpse4b316a2_1.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FIMG_0861_zps4fba8a25_1.jpg&hash=9bc24d4c6257b78967c5882684791f1f12c92d3f) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/IMG_0861_zps4fba8a25_1.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FIMG_0851_zpsc658cf43_1.jpg&hash=b45c97c93a541bd722e34388c6d8f113a031ad12) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/IMG_0851_zpsc658cf43_1.jpg.html)
nvm
Me, pre HRT....just makeup and clothes. Please, be kind.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnEwLBorl.jpg&hash=c4b4a92dbe15d0c220b45e59ac6d05c65f7fecd5)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgQCtT91l.jpg&hash=30c67edb99d4c7ce24d3fbd20f2655929aaf0921)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7Ommrvnl.jpg&hash=ebdcd897ed02b74b8a2ac0a12f6e9cdb77ea9a63)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FL2ZFrjRl.jpg&hash=3c944127373207813272c9200b6cd3ab2e20eb53)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZ9S6bwjl.jpg&hash=159572f5fdf4fec4aa7d38da78c87afa68e64304)
Quote from: dahliasimone1981 on January 26, 2015, 03:36:06 PM
Me, pre HRT....just makeup and clothes. Please, be kind.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnEwLBorl.jpg&hash=c4b4a92dbe15d0c220b45e59ac6d05c65f7fecd5)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgQCtT91l.jpg&hash=30c67edb99d4c7ce24d3fbd20f2655929aaf0921)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7Ommrvnl.jpg&hash=ebdcd897ed02b74b8a2ac0a12f6e9cdb77ea9a63)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FL2ZFrjRl.jpg&hash=3c944127373207813272c9200b6cd3ab2e20eb53)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZ9S6bwjl.jpg&hash=159572f5fdf4fec4aa7d38da78c87afa68e64304)
Honestly id be suprised if you were anything besides a stunner
Thank you so much!!! I have been super self-conscious as of late (I blame Mercury in retrograde lol)....so many lovelies in this thread!!!
Just a few more, while I'm feeling semi-confident lol....
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fgy0rIPOl.jpg&hash=ad3db003b9aa6c955e236929eb9ab7a9960aab16)
You look great dahlia, I gotta say when you have your eyebrows thinner you remind a little bit of the singer pink but with better hair :)
Quote from: Rotika on January 26, 2015, 01:51:00 PM
Pre everything. no hrt. just having fun with makeup and my girl clothes :) Need to find a better match for my foundation (it's a little bit dark) or just start tanning to even things out more.
What do you think? :D (you won't hurt my feelings, be honest. If I look like a guy wearing makeup let me know before I go out in public like this lol)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2F2048830D-ED95-4854-B913-F20D8EACABE9_zpspnrxuvjf.jpg&hash=b21177748d7fdcbc51c74e7ec871b259da0c5b0a) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/2048830D-ED95-4854-B913-F20D8EACABE9_zpspnrxuvjf.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2F42AC2349-20A3-4C06-8911-C041E959DBDB_zpsb07pyorq.jpg&hash=b622a6962fc5de9c814a7ccb61663404eebe88ca) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/42AC2349-20A3-4C06-8911-C041E959DBDB_zpsb07pyorq.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FD79171DC-0CDF-42BF-BCBC-D6A4D430D475_zpsxpw6szm6.jpg&hash=d611dd55c8b64588fa7d0790c324a9afd88733d9) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/D79171DC-0CDF-42BF-BCBC-D6A4D430D475_zpsxpw6szm6.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FIMG_0862_zpse4b316a2_1.jpg&hash=416b575291fea75e73e7aa9d98e5492bf8e8b4de) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/IMG_0862_zpse4b316a2_1.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FIMG_0861_zps4fba8a25_1.jpg&hash=9bc24d4c6257b78967c5882684791f1f12c92d3f) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/IMG_0861_zps4fba8a25_1.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FIMG_0851_zpsc658cf43_1.jpg&hash=b45c97c93a541bd722e34388c6d8f113a031ad12) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/IMG_0851_zpsc658cf43_1.jpg.html)
so many beautiful people posted pics I almost didn't comment on urs so I just wanted to say that ur beautiful. And ur body looks really femme im totally jealous
I'll add a couple more photos, these are all pre-hrt (which I'm hoping to start by end of Feb). I've had 1 lesson from a makeup artist, and think I do pretty good in that regard. I've got 2 more makeup artists that want to use my face as a canvas. The benefit of having a cousin in the beauty industry. :)
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8582/15970514151_da6ca77b10_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qkg4sg)jessica pink tanktop (https://flic.kr/p/qkg4sg) by Jessica Ann Jaymz (https://www.flickr.com/people/23453550@N05/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5607/15576440810_e5d6503090_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pJrkbj)pretty in the park (https://flic.kr/p/pJrkbj) by Jessica Ann Jaymz (https://www.flickr.com/people/23453550@N05/), on Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7509/15692377564_4520c29848_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pUFx8S)new long black skirt (https://flic.kr/p/pUFx8S) by Jessica Ann Jaymz (https://www.flickr.com/people/23453550@N05/), on Flickr
Please be honest,
Jess
Quote from: amber roskamp on January 27, 2015, 07:17:54 AM
so many beautiful people posted pics I almost didn't comment on urs so I just wanted to say that ur beautiful. And ur body looks really femme im totally jealous
Thanks Amber :)
Quote from: Rotika on January 26, 2015, 01:51:00 PM
Pre everything. no hrt. just having fun with makeup and my girl clothes :) Need to find a better match for my foundation (it's a little bit dark) or just start tanning to even things out more.
What do you think? :D (you won't hurt my feelings, be honest. If I look like a guy wearing makeup let me know before I go out in public like this lol)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2F2048830D-ED95-4854-B913-F20D8EACABE9_zpspnrxuvjf.jpg&hash=b21177748d7fdcbc51c74e7ec871b259da0c5b0a) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/2048830D-ED95-4854-B913-F20D8EACABE9_zpspnrxuvjf.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2F42AC2349-20A3-4C06-8911-C041E959DBDB_zpsb07pyorq.jpg&hash=b622a6962fc5de9c814a7ccb61663404eebe88ca) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/42AC2349-20A3-4C06-8911-C041E959DBDB_zpsb07pyorq.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FD79171DC-0CDF-42BF-BCBC-D6A4D430D475_zpsxpw6szm6.jpg&hash=d611dd55c8b64588fa7d0790c324a9afd88733d9) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/D79171DC-0CDF-42BF-BCBC-D6A4D430D475_zpsxpw6szm6.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FIMG_0862_zpse4b316a2_1.jpg&hash=416b575291fea75e73e7aa9d98e5492bf8e8b4de) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/IMG_0862_zpse4b316a2_1.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FIMG_0861_zps4fba8a25_1.jpg&hash=9bc24d4c6257b78967c5882684791f1f12c92d3f) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/IMG_0861_zps4fba8a25_1.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FIMG_0851_zpsc658cf43_1.jpg&hash=b45c97c93a541bd722e34388c6d8f113a031ad12) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/IMG_0851_zpsc658cf43_1.jpg.html)
Wow you look amazing. Compared to you i look like a fat mess.
;_;
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on January 25, 2015, 12:41:52 AM
Holy moly, Kate!
I think you may be lost; this thread is for transgender girls. :P
Really, though, you look amazing. Just amazing.
As far as hair goes, you have enough there to be able to step into a salon and ask them what they think. That's what I would do. Put yourself in the hands of a professional, and trust them.
Really, you look super good. :)
Sorry I could not be of more help, suggestion-wise.
Gosh, you look good. ;D
Cheers,
Teg
Thank you so much for the compliments everyone - it does help boost my confidence.
I've been researching something to do with my hair and trying to figure out makeup, but it's been really difficult knowing whose advice to follow and what is applicable to my situation.
Clothes... that's a whole other problem. But I don't mind thrift shopping until I figure out a flattering style.
Kate
Haven't done any HRT or anything, sort of just wondering what anyone's opinion on whether I have a masculine or feminine face. Im going to start straightening my hair when I get my own place, but for now Im just wondering whether HRT could turn in into something passable...I didnt shave x.x Hopefully it's okay to post this here even though Im not in transition yet ^^
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Quote from: JynxRosalie on January 29, 2015, 05:28:46 AM
Haven't done any HRT or anything, sort of just wondering what anyone's opinion on whether I have a masculine or feminine face. Im going to start straightening my hair when I get my own place, but for now Im just wondering whether HRT could turn in into something passable...I didnt shave x.x Hopefully it's okay to post this here even though Im not in transition yet ^^
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Hi Rosalie,
I think you have a great foundation. You have beautiful skin. Big eyes. Thick, healthy hair, that will only get thicker and shinier with HRT. Your chin is a nice shape and your nose has a slight upturn (and i think it will thin slightly from the HRT.) You have some brow bossing but from this angle it does not look too extreme and that too will reduce with HRT. There is muscle there that will diminish. Your plump cheeks and lips will only get better. Your eyebrows are AHHH-MAZ--INNG. The rest of your face will arrange itself. You facial hair is not thick and it will probably thin even more with HRT. Even with your darker skin, your hair is so dark you might be able to use laser to eliminate any that remains from HRT. You could start laser today. I did all my laser pre-hrt. you are so young, I think how much HRT will help will surprise you.
Kind Regards, Danielle
(FYI... you do not NEED to straighten your hair. But, I understand the impulse as I wish mine was my wavy (and a different color!)
^^ Oh yay~ That makes me really happy to hear. Thank you so much~
I've never posted here in this thread before , I was just wondering if being 63 I look all right As everyone knows its hard to see yourself. I was born 15 months ago
Quote from: stephaniec on January 29, 2015, 11:13:40 PM
I've never posted here in this thread before , I was just wondering if being 63 I look all right As everyone knows its hard to see yourself. I was born 15 months ago
I like your new avatar pic Stephanie. You look younger than 63, id say at least 10 years younger. My computer rated you female and age 49 and happy! :)
-Jade
:-*
Quote from: Jade_404 on January 29, 2015, 11:33:52 PM
I like your new avatar pic Stephanie. You look younger than 63, id say at least 10 years younger. My computer rated you female and age 49 and happy! :)
-Jade
:-*
thanks very much , I really appreciate it
Quote from: stephaniec on January 30, 2015, 12:23:55 AM
thanks very much , I really appreciate it
Hi Stephanie,
I agree with Jade . Nice new picture. You look younger than your age. I would also like to add that I enjoy your posts and contributions to all the forums in which you choose to participate.
Thank you, Danielle
Quote from: BreezyB on December 21, 2014, 05:57:55 PM
It's been a while since I've posted here, but I must say everyone's looking fabulous. Slowly things are progressing I think.
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Bree xxx
Did you have FFS? you look great. Is that a line of a wig or is it your real hairline?
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on December 11, 2014, 01:13:52 AM
My sister-in-law has training as a beautician, and a couple of weeks ago she and my brother came over to have dinner and hang out. Before I knew it, we were in the bathroom, and she was doing my makeup. It was the first time that I have been dressed as myself in front of either of them. Resolution isn't the best, as these came from my phone, but I think the basic idea is here.
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When I begin presenting, I'll most likely wear bangs to cover up the worry lines on my forehead. Besides that, any thoughts?
-Tegan
I think you look great. Have you considered botox on the forehead?
Have you had or considered getting FFS? I think you have a great face and you would look spectacular if you did.
First time here. I'm Pre-everything (mtf ? -2 weeks to therapist appointment). Now I'm 35 (current photos) On the first photo I had to pull the tshirt to outline my upper body (kinda). No face photo though. Too hairy, masculine. Problem is I have large feet and hands (shoe size 14 geez!). I'm hairy as a gorilla too.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv84%2Fstavpal%2F2015-01-30-3849_2_zpsqkan37bv.jpg&hash=3fd409501a595d6e8836b6dd15f50bd3dde7e812) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/stavpal/media/2015-01-30-3849_2_zpsqkan37bv.jpg.html) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv84%2Fstavpal%2F2015-01-30-3845_2_zpsazsot69g.jpg&hash=b9e3daa21f7929a70ad9d3350a06c69d4951cde0) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/stavpal/media/2015-01-30-3845_2_zpsazsot69g.jpg.html) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv84%2Fstavpal%2F2015-01-30-3844_2_zpstfoxek0h.jpg&hash=1d9d10247dacbb6f7f19493c75ce169563973e39) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/stavpal/media/2015-01-30-3844_2_zpstfoxek0h.jpg.html)
Any chances of me passing (after (IF) hormones) ?
Thanks in advance,
Kelly
Yea. I definitely think you could pass. You have to do something about ur body hair though. You look like u have feminine proportions.
Quote from: misty2 on January 30, 2015, 03:36:29 AM
Hi Stephanie,
I agree with Jade . Nice new picture. You look younger than your age. I would also like to add that I enjoy your posts and contributions to all the forums in which you choose to participate.
Thank you, Danielle
thanks
Ladies, tell me what you think!
Keep in mind that I have lost about 90 pounds and still losing and I am old enough for Social Security.
The boobs are real and not padded in any way. I am wearing a 42C Playtex bra and Spanx under my sweater.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKHxxSDa.jpg%3F1&hash=cbd40fc6c957c9389e20414f0474209451254ef1) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkiUgWdc.jpg%3F1&hash=1e16f5788db29750e5579028163db8764eedd172)
This is how I look appologies for the crappy quality of the photo (a cheap laptop) I have not had any treatment yet but I am growing my hair out. I need to have some hair transplant on top of my head as I have some mild thinning, same with the front part. The doc said I should get great results from that though, so fingers crossed ;)
My make up skills are woeful and I couldn't find the foundation(as if that would make much difference ::)) as we are still half unpacked from moving :o and I really need to do something about my eyebrows LOL.
I did have my first laser hairremoval treatment done yesterday though so I am super happy about that. Cant wait till next month!
Do you think that HRT will make ANY difference? The surgeon who is preeminent in FFS said HRT will not really have much effect because of the bone structure. I know I cant pass as female yet. I'm just posting to fun.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj149%2FJoFeliz%2Fpicture001_zpstbodjyeg.jpg&hash=140d16a077a6056569d46f61fa34d07073a291e2)
Quote from: Joanne Feliz on January 31, 2015, 04:44:38 AM
This is how I look appologies for the crappy quality of the photo (a cheap laptop) I have not had any treatment yet but I am growing my hair out. I need to have some hair transplant on top of my head as I have some mild thinning, same with the front part. The doc said I should get great results from that though, so fingers crossed ;)
My make up skills are woeful and I couldn't find the foundation(as if that would make much difference ::)) as we are still half unpacked from moving :o and I really need to do something about my eyebrows LOL.
I did have my first laser hairremoval treatment done yesterday though so I am super happy about that. Cant wait till next month!
Do you think that HRT will make ANY difference? The surgeon who is preeminent in FFS said HRT will not really have much effect because of the bone structure. I know I cant pass as female yet. I'm just posting to fun.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj149%2FJoFeliz%2Fpicture001_zpstbodjyeg.jpg&hash=140d16a077a6056569d46f61fa34d07073a291e2)
Hi Joanne,
HRT always makes some difference and I am confident it will help your appearance become much more feminine. You have have huge beautiful eyes. It is a little difficult to tell much else from the photo. However, it also looks like your chin is within a female range and your jaw and chin will improve nicely with the HRT. It is true that HRT does not change bone structure, but you have fat and muscle on your face that will be rearranged. It looks like more aggressive FFS to your brow bossing and orbital rims would be very helpful as well as cleaning up your eyebrows, would really accomplish much. But HRT will help even with that area. Be patient with the HRT it can two or more years to see full results. Good Luck.
Kind Regards, Danielle
I am pre- everything.
Quote from: silentone on January 31, 2015, 11:19:59 PM
I am pre- everything.
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Wow you look great. I am sure when you start you will look amazing. I wish I had your hair for sure and face :D
Am pre HRT and went to a dressing service recently and they did make up, eye lashes and clothes.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wk30bb37b6qbfah/1.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sprulompcl29vge/2.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lj9cjey5562787t/3.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/otwl5zbp8rywooz/4.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rw3879yr7v995t9/5.jpg?dl=0
What is other people's thoughts?
I think that they look okay however I find my face very long (not helped by my naturally high hair line!) ???
plus I wasn't so keen on their clothes ;)
Quote from: Jenny_T on February 01, 2015, 07:09:41 AM
Am pre HRT and went to a dressing service recently and they did make up, eye lashes and clothes.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wk30bb37b6qbfah/1.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sprulompcl29vge/2.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lj9cjey5562787t/3.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/otwl5zbp8rywooz/4.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rw3879yr7v995t9/5.jpg?dl=0
What is other people's thoughts?
I think that they look okay however I find my face very long (not helped by my naturally high hair line!) ???
plus I wasn't so keen on their clothes ;)
What a pretty young lady!
When you go on HRT, get a stick, cos you will have to beat the guys off :-*
Beautiful, total babe.
Quote from: Jenny_T on February 01, 2015, 07:09:41 AM
Am pre HRT and went to a dressing service recently and they did make up, eye lashes and clothes.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wk30bb37b6qbfah/1.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sprulompcl29vge/2.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lj9cjey5562787t/3.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/otwl5zbp8rywooz/4.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rw3879yr7v995t9/5.jpg?dl=0
What is other people's thoughts?
I think that they look okay however I find my face very long (not helped by my naturally high hair line!) ???
plus I wasn't so keen on their clothes ;)
HRT will definitely make a difference and you already have a good base to work on ;)
Lovely to see you Ms. Beautiful.
Quote from: Joanne Feliz on January 31, 2015, 04:44:38 AM
This is how I look appologies for the crappy quality of the photo (a cheap laptop) I have not had any treatment yet but I am growing my hair out. I need to have some hair transplant on top of my head as I have some mild thinning, same with the front part. The doc said I should get great results from that though, so fingers crossed ;)
My make up skills are woeful and I couldn't find the foundation(as if that would make much difference ::)) as we are still half unpacked from moving :o and I really need to do something about my eyebrows LOL.
I did have my first laser hairremoval treatment done yesterday though so I am super happy about that. Cant wait till next month!
Do you think that HRT will make ANY difference? The surgeon who is preeminent in FFS said HRT will not really have much effect because of the bone structure. I know I cant pass as female yet. I'm just posting to fun.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj149%2FJoFeliz%2Fpicture001_zpstbodjyeg.jpg&hash=140d16a077a6056569d46f61fa34d07073a291e2)
Quote from: Jenny_T on February 01, 2015, 07:09:41 AM
Am pre HRT and went to a dressing service recently and they did make up, eye lashes and clothes.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wk30bb37b6qbfah/1.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sprulompcl29vge/2.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lj9cjey5562787t/3.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/otwl5zbp8rywooz/4.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rw3879yr7v995t9/5.jpg?dl=0
What is other people's thoughts?
I think that they look okay however I find my face very long (not helped by my naturally high hair line!) ???
plus I wasn't so keen on their clothes ;)
you look great! As you go forward you will learn what clothes you like and which ones you dingy. I know i have made many mistakes in this regard.
Quote from: Cindy on February 01, 2015, 07:50:48 AM
Cos you will have to beat the guys off :-* Quote
I will refrain from making a dirty joke.
Hello.
Sorry, just thought I would ask some others here about my appearance.
I know that I am messed up (being trans and all), and I should give all this stuff up. However, I am still curious to know if I could look attractive if I choose to transition, and especially if I start hormone therapy.
I often wish I could transition, but my heart aches at me doing such a selfish thing, when people still suffer in hunger and disease. Why should I spend my money on myself when others need it far more?
Sorry to be so morbid...
Here:
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Thank you for your input and your support. I ask for no favors, but appreciate your input.
-Mortified Penguin
Quote from: Joanne Feliz on February 01, 2015, 12:03:21 AM
Wow you look great. I am sure when you start you will look amazing. I wish I had your hair for sure and face :D
My hair gets grows so fast and gets so thick it becomes a burden.
@ Mortified Penguin: I think you already look great, and might even pass with some make-up etc. HRT should work well for you and make passing even easier.
About your question on the selfishness of transition, here's what i think.. do you feel you can be happy as you are now, live the way you want to, and do what you would love to do (including doing something for those suffering from hunger and disease, if that's what you want to do)? If yes, then you may not need to transition at all.
But if not, then it is better to do something for yourself first and be happy with yourself. That way, you will be able to do much better at whatever you want to do.
That's my take on it, but if you are seriously confused about this, it's better to talk to a therapist. But coming back to the topic of this thread, you look great and need not worry about passing. :)
Hi Carmen,
thanks for the lovely words of encouragement. I hope I can get better, I have anxiety that I left it too late.
I think you look super, you have such a beautiful and friendly face.
I am happy you can put a face to my post now :) i am exited about the future and the changes that will happen and the new chapter opening in my life.
ps no one has called me Ms beautiful before :D
Quote from: MortifiedPenguin on February 01, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
Hello.
Sorry, just thought I would ask some others here about my appearance.
I know that I am messed up (being trans and all), and I should give all this stuff up. However, I am still curious to know if I could look attractive if I choose to transition, and especially if I start hormone therapy.
I often wish I could transition, but my heart aches at me doing such a selfish thing, when people still suffer in hunger and disease. Why should I spend my money on myself when others need it far more?
Sorry to be so morbid...
Here:
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Thank you for your input and your support. I ask for no favors, but appreciate your input.
-Mortified Penguin
Dear Beautiful, unique, penguin,
When you fly on an airplane, the flight attendant instructs you to put your oxygen mask on first, before helping others. Why is this an important rule for ensuring survival? Because if you run out of oxygen, you can't help anyone else with their oxygen mask.
These thoughts are not only mine, they have been used by many as a metaphor, but I think they hold particular true for you. This is an important metaphor for those of you who run around taking care of everything and everyone else except yourself.
If you don't take care of yourself, you can experience burnout, stress, fatigue, reduced mental effectiveness, health problems, anxiety, frustration, inability to sleep, (and even death). Are you experiencing any of these symptoms?
It's time to let go of the guilt and the excuses, and put your oxygen mask first.
Kind Regards,
Danielle
I'm at my two year mark for hormones, and I want to to see how I'm doing-I have my avatar pic, and also one uploaded here just to point out how unfortunately tall and spindly I am (six feet). Please don't be kind for the sake of being kind; people do stare at me from time to time, and I'm trying to figure out why. I know that sometimes, people here want to make the posters feel good about themselves, no matter what they look like. Don't do that here. I'm not looking to feel good about myself, I'm trying to figure out what my options are given that I am not going to be happy until I can pass 100% of the time, end of story.
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Idk why they stare. I don't really have anything negative to say tbh.I always thought you looked pretty tbh. Especially in ur avatar pic. Thing that may help is breast enhancements. I dont think u need them but it would help I guess. I don't think u need ffs either. Maybe they are staring at you for other reasons like ur unique style, or maybe they think ur got hot
It's probably due to your height (I'm also 6ft), tall women stand out, and tend to garner more attention.
Quote from: MortifiedPenguin on February 01, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
Hello.
Sorry, just thought I would ask some others here about my appearance.
I know that I am messed up (being trans and all), and I should give all this stuff up. However, I am still curious to know if I could look attractive if I choose to transition, and especially if I start hormone therapy.
I often wish I could transition, but my heart aches at me doing such a selfish thing, when people still suffer in hunger and disease. Why should I spend my money on myself when others need it far more?
Sorry to be so morbid...
Thank you for your input and your support. I ask for no favors, but appreciate your input.
-Mortified Penguin
Penguin,
If you are trans, then that alone does not make you messed up. The very fact that you're speaking of helping others, and the greater good, really shows that your head and your heart are in the right place, and that's good. You want to take care of others, an admirable quality, but as has been stated you also need to take care of yourself. That is not selfish; that is healthy.
I want you to consider something: maybe you are not as messed up as you believe, and maybe transition is what you need in your life in order to see that. When I first came here, I describe myself as "action-packed with issues." These days, I have more peace in my mind and heart than I think I ever have. Since I have begun transition, many things in my life have fallen into place, and many others have been placed in a much more positive and manageable perspective. Turns out I was experiencing so much trouble with life because I am Tegan, but I never allowed myself to be. Since I began to accept myself, and to move down the path toward authenticity, things started coming up Tegi.
It's just something to consider. Having ownership of your own life should not be seen as a selfish luxury.
With all that said, you would transition beautifully. You are already close to passing even without the hormones. I look forward to seeing your progress should you choose that route.
Just remember, if transitioning is something you think about all the time, then those thoughts won't get away. Imagine all the headspace you'll free up if you just bite the bullet, and take care of yourself this once.
Cheers,
Teg
PM if you need to chat. ;)
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on February 03, 2015, 10:31:49 AM
I'm at my two year mark for hormones, and I want to to see how I'm doing-I have my avatar pic, and also one uploaded here just to point out how unfortunately tall and spindly I am (six feet). Please don't be kind for the sake of being kind; people do stare at me from time to time, and I'm trying to figure out why. I know that sometimes, people here want to make the posters feel good about themselves, no matter what they look like. Don't do that here. I'm not looking to feel good about myself, I'm trying to figure out what my options are given that I am not going to be happy until I can pass 100% of the time, end of story.
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Painter,
Could you perhaps post some more pictures, with your front and side, and close-ups on your face? From what I see you have a beautiful body and a very pretty face so I don't know why anybody's gaze would linger on you except to admire you. But if feedback is what you are looking for, give us more to go on, please.
As a sidenote, I am also 6 feet tall, with large feet, so I feel your pain, sister. :P
PM me if you ever want to chat.
Cheers,
Tegan
thank you for your kind words.
I have been trying to accept myself for who, or I guess what, I am. Believe me, I do enjoy the idea of transition. I would enjoy being seen as I wish to. I however do not wish to contribute to immoral or selfish behavior as a whole. Sorry to sound rude in saying that.
I wish to live a clean, contributing life for people in general. I hope to not disgrace my family with my actions. I wish to prove that I am worth what I have been given due to the random circumstance I was given.
Just to be clear: I am 19 years old, almost 20. I am 5'9"/5'10" tall, 130-ish lbs. I have perpetually worried about weight, and I hope I am at a healthy level currently.
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I also wished to state clearly that these photos are of me in "guy mode": no makeup, just my average daily wear.
Thank you all, and I hope that I am not a bother,
-MortifiedPenguin
Quote from: MortifiedPenguin on February 03, 2015, 03:02:22 PM
I however do not wish to contribute to immoral or selfish behavior as a whole. Sorry to sound rude in saying that.
I hope to not disgrace my family with my actions. I wish to prove that I am worth what I have been given due to the random circumstance I was given.
im sorry you feel that way. it sounds like this is a strong mindset you have about transition so I wont try too hard to change your mind. i'll just say that, unless you are strongly religious, I dont understand why you would view it as such an "immoral" choice. if transition would make your life happier, then that seems like a sad and unfair objective moral code to live by, considering the random circumstances you've been given.
for what its worth, i think you look very pretty and would pass very nicely.
I hope you find happiness in whatever path you may choose!
Quote from: MortifiedPenguin on February 03, 2015, 03:02:22 PM
I have been trying to accept myself for who, or I guess what, I am. Believe me, I do enjoy the idea of transition. I would enjoy being seen as I wish to. I however do not wish to contribute to immoral or selfish behavior as a whole. Sorry to sound rude in saying that.
I wish to live a clean, contributing life for people in general. I hope to not disgrace my family with my actions. I wish to prove that I am worth what I have been given due to the random circumstance I was given.
Hun, transitioning doesn't make you immoral. I am assuming that you are religious if you came to that conclusion. it is ok if you are. I know many very good trans people that are far more worried about helping others then almost any cis person I know. There are great people who are trans and there are great people who aren't. transitioning has literally nothing to do with morality. Life isn't so simple to say that every thing is bad and good. Most things are neither bad or good. transitioning is neither it is just something we do to help us feel complete, and to help us cope with our trans identity.
To be honest I have become a much better person since I started my transition. I have gotten involved with activism, im going to start a affordable trans housing cooperative, and I have let 2 different trans individuals who where homeless live with me even though they were previously strangers. If I decided that I shouldn't transition none of that would have happened. I was selfish and constantly thinking about why my life had to be the way that it was beforehand. Now I think how do I help people like me who are struggling.
also you have to take ur time when you debating whether or not you should transition. You are young and based off ur pics you are already fairly feminine. I would recommend seeing a gender therapist. I personally would recommend exploring with certain things like make-up and hairstyling products. if you don't feel safe doing this in ur house I would recommend moving out.
Thank you all for your kind words.
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Morality aside, I was curious as to how well I could hope to be seen as female.
I have been labeled as androgynous for quite some time, and took this to mean I had a good chance of being seen as female.
I leave it up to the jury to decide,
-MortifiedPenguin
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on February 03, 2015, 10:31:49 AM
I'm at my two year mark for hormones, and I want to to see how I'm doing-I have my avatar pic, and also one uploaded here just to point out how unfortunately tall and spindly I am (six feet). Please don't be kind for the sake of being kind; people do stare at me from time to time, and I'm trying to figure out why. I know that sometimes, people here want to make the posters feel good about themselves, no matter what they look like. Don't do that here. I'm not looking to feel good about myself, I'm trying to figure out what my options are given that I am not going to be happy until I can pass 100% of the time, end of story.
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I'm gonna be totally honest here. Have you ever considered that people might just be staring at you the same way they would stare at any other hot girl? I mean, I get it; the paranoia of being a transwoman makes a girl assume people are constantly trying to assess your gender but maybe... just maybe they totally aren't.
Based on the avatar photo and body shot, I would assume people are just checking out a tall and pretty woman.
Quote from: Abysha on February 03, 2015, 07:48:42 PM
I'm gonna be totally honest here. Have you ever considered that people might just be staring at you the same way they would stare at any other hot girl? I mean, I get it; the paranoia of being a transwoman makes a girl assume people are constantly trying to assess your gender but maybe... just maybe they totally aren't.
Based on the avatar photo and body shot, I would assume people are just checking out a tall and pretty woman.
seriously you are built like a fashion model. and you have a beautiful face.
disclaimer: this isn't sugar coating.
Here goes! First image is pre-everything, second is a few hours ago at 4 months HRT and about 40lbs lighter (And 2 laser sessions in). Hoping Dr. Cardenas can do something about the chin/nose issue.
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Quote from: VikingArchangel on February 04, 2015, 08:56:12 PM
Here goes! First image is pre-everything, second is a few hours ago at 4 months HRT and about 40lbs lighter (And 2 laser sessions in). Hoping Dr. Cardenas can do something about the chin/nose issue.
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wow you look so much better in the second pic! Like 15 years younger as well. definitely great progress. I am picturing u with boobs (and an overall femme body) and i can definitely see a butch women . I would get some cute earrings if i were you. I think ffs will definitely help but it seems like hrt and lasers and weight loss have done a lot already.
Also i would like to say that i think short hair looks good on you. especially if you get some cute earrings. ;)
;D - Thanks!
Oh, the girls came out to say "Hi!" a couple months ago. My sister (cis) figured me out on sight cause of that. High-impact, low-profile sports bras work wonders for guy mode.
Quote from: VikingArchangel on February 04, 2015, 09:39:40 PM
;D - Thanks!
Oh, the girls came out to say "Hi!" a couple months ago. My sister (cis) figured me out on sight cause of that. High-impact, low-profile sports bras work wonders for guy mode.
Ahh! im jealous. I am still waiting for mine. oh well.....its only been a month and a half for me.
Click to enlarge:
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Quote from: VikingArchangel on February 04, 2015, 08:56:12 PM
Here goes! First image is pre-everything, second is a few hours ago at 4 months HRT and about 40lbs lighter (And 2 laser sessions in). Hoping Dr. Cardenas can do something about the chin/nose issue.
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Really, really amazing!
You have a better forehead and hair line than me(mine has receded more so will require hair transplants). My forehead is also bigger to will need work there LOL. Im sooooo jealous!
I hope I can at some point look as good as you.
Incidently, if it is not too personal, how old are you and have your colleagues noticed?
In regards to the chin and nose I think it looks good though you need to show other profiles to see properly - tey say male facial characteristics are pronounced on the side profile. You do have a boyish appearance but your skin has dramatically improved and like others said you look like 10 years younger now.
Anyway from what I can see you look fabulous!
:D
Sorry to keep pestering everyone here.
I apologize that my words were incite-full, i did not mean to cause a problem with other users here.
I was only expressing my own views on myself and my experience with Gender Dysphoria.
I wish to put all that behind me and ask a simple question: could I hope to pass as female? I often feel embarrassed and unattractive in my appearance. Such is one reason why i am not comfortable right now wearing womens clothing, even in privacy.
Here are some recent photos of me to help your judgement:
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to give you an idea of me, I am 19 years old, am between 5'9" and 5'10", and at about 130-ish lbs.
thank you very much and God Bless,
-Mortified Penguin
Amber: Only 6 weeks in? Jeebus, girl...you can already tell something is going on, and that's without a before pic!
Joanne: Started hormones at 29 (I'm 30 now). People were asking questions around week 7-8. So far, no one has called me out overtly, but when women are asking "the guy" about skin care, you know the meds are working their magic!
Quote from: VikingArchangel on February 05, 2015, 08:58:30 AM
Amber: Only 6 weeks in? Jeebus, girl...you can already tell something is going on, and that's without a before pic!
That is one of my before pics 8)
Thanks...but, nobody ever hits on me, or flirts or anything. I'm in a realtionship right now with someone I don't like. Perhaps I dress too weirdly usually? I don't know. I just feel like if I passed and if I was actually pretty, I might have the option of being in a relationship with someone I actually like.
Was really feeling the GD today, so to fight it I came home and got dressed up.
How am I doing? Do we have a girl?
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The final one is sans make up from a few days ago, FYI.
-Tegan
Quote from: Summer on January 23, 2015, 03:49:27 AM
omg game set match you already look amazing . When you start hrt wow say no more xoxo
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Thanks Summer! Bless you.
I think you totally look fem!! U look great, gir! ;D
have a few pre HRT pictures
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2Ftm6wx93ur%2Fimage.jpg&hash=e25084c5dfb16a9327bf45a310018f1db1a40df5) (http://postimg.org/image/tm6wx93ur/)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2Fdf0mh6wub%2Fimage.jpg&hash=fb3a7698047937754554d54af5d1012deeb028dd) (http://postimg.org/image/df0mh6wub/)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2Fyelbmfnwj%2Fimage.jpg&hash=d6b93662de1a949105bb87d85c84b797ef8b4403) (http://postimg.org/image/yelbmfnwj/)
Here's me about two weeks ago at week 10. Guy mode.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2Fip5l8hh37%2Fimage.jpg&hash=6fccbcd4c74487b67fe711cd380b956fe4a62d3f) (http://postimg.org/image/ip5l8hh37/)
And here's me a couple of days ago at month 3. First time dressed, no wig or makeup either.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2Fypy6lgeyr%2Fimage.jpg&hash=9bb2a2c4c901c4d3ff0870bf14b3b57c39abe786) (http://postimg.org/image/ypy6lgeyr/)
I can see some subtle changes, but I know I still have a long way to go before I can think about passing.
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on February 05, 2015, 10:34:54 PM
Was really feeling the GD today, so to fight it I came home and got dressed up.
How am I doing? Do we have a girl?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FBB8E1E28-8581-4565-92AA-A53C256FD276.jpg&hash=e6f6e8a0062f40c1713a92a736775afaebce3556) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/BB8E1E28-8581-4565-92AA-A53C256FD276.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F63A5E1A0-F773-4686-9FC2-086F8A6CCBDF.jpg&hash=3c08fe047999299f2d1beba9e47c681e05c825b7) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/63A5E1A0-F773-4686-9FC2-086F8A6CCBDF.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F26B0A9A2-B015-4FEB-AF63-D151FE64A75F.jpg&hash=6872b25ef6748eee03130d02c9579736ba427a95) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/26B0A9A2-B015-4FEB-AF63-D151FE64A75F.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FE74654A2-B587-4868-84B8-25DA9663D9EF.jpg&hash=edaeb7696ed076bfdc48cc37c57f1d366a7dd951) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/E74654A2-B587-4868-84B8-25DA9663D9EF.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-02%2FE6B5E808-9F5C-468E-8185-A8A718A1B230.jpg&hash=fa09cb877d00e55175a487899dc5444272157d38) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-02/E6B5E808-9F5C-468E-8185-A8A718A1B230.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2F2D171024-568B-4735-8B7F-2BA25E154999.jpg&hash=701e0524710de3c3bfd07208c5b9064f37bbfd06) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/2D171024-568B-4735-8B7F-2BA25E154999.jpg.html)
The final one is sans make up from a few days ago, FYI.
-Tegan
Girl, you've totes got this! You look so different from pre-HRT. Very pretty!
I really see a big difference too! You look amazing!!! And the best is yet to come! ;)
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on February 05, 2015, 10:34:54 PM
Was really feeling the GD today, so to fight it I came home and got dressed up.
How am I doing? Do we have a girl?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FBB8E1E28-8581-4565-92AA-A53C256FD276.jpg&hash=e6f6e8a0062f40c1713a92a736775afaebce3556) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/BB8E1E28-8581-4565-92AA-A53C256FD276.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F63A5E1A0-F773-4686-9FC2-086F8A6CCBDF.jpg&hash=3c08fe047999299f2d1beba9e47c681e05c825b7) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/63A5E1A0-F773-4686-9FC2-086F8A6CCBDF.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F26B0A9A2-B015-4FEB-AF63-D151FE64A75F.jpg&hash=6872b25ef6748eee03130d02c9579736ba427a95) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/26B0A9A2-B015-4FEB-AF63-D151FE64A75F.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FE74654A2-B587-4868-84B8-25DA9663D9EF.jpg&hash=edaeb7696ed076bfdc48cc37c57f1d366a7dd951) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/E74654A2-B587-4868-84B8-25DA9663D9EF.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-02%2FE6B5E808-9F5C-468E-8185-A8A718A1B230.jpg&hash=fa09cb877d00e55175a487899dc5444272157d38) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-02/E6B5E808-9F5C-468E-8185-A8A718A1B230.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-01%2F2D171024-568B-4735-8B7F-2BA25E154999.jpg&hash=701e0524710de3c3bfd07208c5b9064f37bbfd06) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/2D171024-568B-4735-8B7F-2BA25E154999.jpg.html)
The final one is sans make up from a few days ago, FYI.
-Tegan
Hi Tegan,
I think you look great. I think the only one that isnt quite there is the first photo. Perhaps it is the profile and your cheek bones or even a bad shadow cast from the light.
The rest are very feminine and a very great looking face/body. Im a bit jealous actually. ::)
I think you have great, strong features that make you beautiful and I am sure you will get
even more so as you progress.
;)
Quote from: Alyssa Rae on February 06, 2015, 02:31:39 AM
have a few pre HRT pictures
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2Ftm6wx93ur%2Fimage.jpg&hash=e25084c5dfb16a9327bf45a310018f1db1a40df5) (http://postimg.org/image/tm6wx93ur/)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2Fdf0mh6wub%2Fimage.jpg&hash=fb3a7698047937754554d54af5d1012deeb028dd) (http://postimg.org/image/df0mh6wub/)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2Fyelbmfnwj%2Fimage.jpg&hash=d6b93662de1a949105bb87d85c84b797ef8b4403) (http://postimg.org/image/yelbmfnwj/)
Here's me about two weeks ago at week 10. Guy mode.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2Fip5l8hh37%2Fimage.jpg&hash=6fccbcd4c74487b67fe711cd380b956fe4a62d3f) (http://postimg.org/image/ip5l8hh37/)
And here's me a couple of days ago at month 3. First time dressed, no wig or makeup either.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2Fypy6lgeyr%2Fimage.jpg&hash=9bb2a2c4c901c4d3ff0870bf14b3b57c39abe786) (http://postimg.org/image/ypy6lgeyr/)
I can see some subtle changes, but I know I still have a long way to go before I can think about passing.
You were so full of muscles. Did you have to try to diet to get rid of that or did they just disappear after you were on hormones?
Im surprised you can even 'pass' as male anymore.
Quote from: MortifiedPenguin on February 05, 2015, 08:27:08 AM
Sorry to keep pestering everyone here.
I apologize that my words were incite-full, i did not mean to cause a problem with other users here.
I was only expressing my own views on myself and my experience with Gender Dysphoria.
I wish to put all that behind me and ask a simple question: could I hope to pass as female? I often feel embarrassed and unattractive in my appearance. Such is one reason why i am not comfortable right now wearing womens clothing, even in privacy.
Here are some recent photos of me to help your judgement:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10552593_757306667682640_5047350963313352149_n.jpg?oh=e9b1fc1addc8a46e15c8ebb2c0f75cd5&oe=556D0605&__gda__=1430951308_567eee8a057b5ee24992dd274a8a1001)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/1383826_765119810234659_858343224044537933_n.jpg?oh=3ca7dbd5e425e203dc46b64b7e8f6b8f&oe=556BAFC3&__gda__=1432904676_24ca196a4fa7162c47b3e65ff43455fd)
(https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1966851_768508039895836_7378634516237062054_n.jpg?oh=440e283419eefe2673bb058afc899b8b&oe=55544AA3)
to give you an idea of me, I am 19 years old, am between 5'9" and 5'10", and at about 130-ish lbs.
thank you very much and God Bless,
-Mortified Penguin
Hi Mortified Penguin,
I think you have such good potential to be a beautiful woman. You should, if you really desire this, seize the moment and pluck up the courage to see your GP or Endo.
I just finished writing a letter to my psychiatrist explaining why I want to transition into a female. In that brief history I explained one of my biggest regrets is not having done this at YOUR age.
Life has a funny habit of getting in the way of your goals and desires if you
let it. Don't find yourself in my shoes, in your late 30s, sad and miserable, full of regret and with rafters of
responsibilities. Do it, if this is what is calling out to you.
Believe me, if you have this strong desire, like I do, it never goes away. It is always eating away at your brain.
Anyway, I don't want to egg you on to do something your not ready to do, just if you are 100% sure be sure your don't let life run past you as before you know it your my age etc...
Best of luck you good looking girl
:)
I haven't started HRT yet but have been taking some natural supplements for a couple weeks.
I am scheduled to start counseling this weekend.
So here are a couple shots from the last few weeks
For reference I am 6'2" and 220 lbs so I am a pretty big lady :o
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2F15602a93-d828-49c5-b500-3ce1079f5222_zps1c67c49e.jpg&hash=7b0b85b9642f4acc1bf0e04e923e81dc79a3924f) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/15602a93-d828-49c5-b500-3ce1079f5222_zps1c67c49e.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FIMG_5011_zps3b33999d.jpg&hash=45001bcaf25825884fc037435a3660680266c4c5) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/IMG_5011_zps3b33999d.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FIMG_4912_zpsf87439dd.jpg&hash=b235a63c9c2830f012e7a40c4997af2102600274) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/IMG_4912_zpsf87439dd.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FIMG_1622_zps0979ebf8.jpg&hash=7f958a3e12b78f0d0a7255d72e6fd70b3c5beb58) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/IMG_1622_zps0979ebf8.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FIMG_7938_zps6704d54c.jpg&hash=8d169be7a3ea32c3851018eeb0bc2d873ea98a7d) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/IMG_7938_zps6704d54c.jpg.html)
Quote from: Joanne Feliz on February 06, 2015, 03:59:05 AM
You were so full of muscles. Did you have to try to diet to get rid of that or did they just disappear after you were on hormones?
Im surprised you can even 'pass' as male anymore.
Why, thank you!
Yes, I did diet a little for about four months before HRT. Beyond that, the hormones have caused muscle atrophy too. I'm roughly half as strong as I was and the mass is much less as well. I was about 5'7 165 and now am down to 142. Height has actually decreased a small amount as well.
Hi Alyssa Rae, just one other thing. Did you drop a shoe size at all?
Quote from: MortifiedPenguin on February 05, 2015, 08:27:08 AM
Sorry to keep pestering everyone here.
I apologize that my words were incite-full, i did not mean to cause a problem with other users here.
I was only expressing my own views on myself and my experience with Gender Dysphoria.
I wish to put all that behind me and ask a simple question: could I hope to pass as female? I often feel embarrassed and unattractive in my appearance. Such is one reason why i am not comfortable right now wearing womens clothing, even in privacy.
Here are some recent photos of me to help your judgement:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10552593_757306667682640_5047350963313352149_n.jpg?oh=e9b1fc1addc8a46e15c8ebb2c0f75cd5&oe=556D0605&__gda__=1430951308_567eee8a057b5ee24992dd274a8a1001)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/1383826_765119810234659_858343224044537933_n.jpg?oh=3ca7dbd5e425e203dc46b64b7e8f6b8f&oe=556BAFC3&__gda__=1432904676_24ca196a4fa7162c47b3e65ff43455fd)
(https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1966851_768508039895836_7378634516237062054_n.jpg?oh=440e283419eefe2673bb058afc899b8b&oe=55544AA3)
to give you an idea of me, I am 19 years old, am between 5'9" and 5'10", and at about 130-ish lbs.
thank you very much and God Bless,
-Mortified Penguin
You definitely have all the tools there to become a very beautiful woman. If you're only 19 and you know this is what you want, then go for it. Please don't let fear hold you back! I've heard it countless times how people only regret not doing it sooner. You still have a long time to go before you'd have to worry about diminishing results. I've seen people that have transitioned in their teens all the way up to people in their fifties or sixties and achieve amazing results. The most important thing is, the earlier you start, the longer you get to live as yourself. That's priceless :D
HRT will be very good to you, girl.
Quote from: Joanne Feliz on February 06, 2015, 05:00:07 AM
Hi Alyssa Rae, just one other thing. Did you drop a shoe size at all?
Yes, I did. Im not sure how much, but my shoes slide all over on me now, no matter how tightly I tie them. I'll likely have to get a new pair in the very near future.
I know I can pass with makeup but I'm wondering if I pass without as in the picture below.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fet89j8.jpg&hash=a3034ee7f7ec3d040b652657f225339cc077a8e4)
Quote from: MissC on February 06, 2015, 07:26:49 PM
I know I can pass with makeup but I'm wondering if I pass without as in the picture below.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fet89j8.jpg&hash=a3034ee7f7ec3d040b652657f225339cc077a8e4)
Heck yeah! :P
-Jade
:-*
Quote from: Jade_404 on February 06, 2015, 07:36:24 PM
Heck yeah! :P
-Jade
:-*
Agreed. And your hair is fantastic. I wish I could get mine to grow that long.
Quote from: MissC on February 06, 2015, 07:26:49 PM
I know I can pass with makeup but I'm wondering if I pass without as in the picture below.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fet89j8.jpg&hash=a3034ee7f7ec3d040b652657f225339cc077a8e4)
Oh yeah, definitely!!!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fclg9scK.jpg&hash=3984810ede8b472e39cfe00b17f4c28f04607f05)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FddCqmyg.jpg&hash=32685711c706250c7f1aab016e4e8aa309f370fe)
I feel like I'm getting somewhere finally:-)
I can't post any non makeup natural pictures yet because I am not yet out, and all my pictures are pre anything.
So I have to decide if I am going to go to my first counseling session as me or as my old self. I need to know if I am close to being able to pass enough to go out in public and not look like a dude in makeup and try to figure out what hair style/color looks best on me. I just don't know what looks the best.
So between the ones I've posted any suggestions??? Comments??? Am I ready for my close up?? At 53 I know I am running out of time.....
Here are a few additional ones
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FIMG_4092_zpsbda8101b.jpg&hash=c680215c33c9a8af88c4424edffa5ed283a6eced) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/IMG_4092_zpsbda8101b.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FIMG_9417_zpscd2706bf.jpg&hash=e3d47a3481987e07c2d8a36f0548bd219549ae8d) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/IMG_9417_zpscd2706bf.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FIMG_4386_zps5c51a65c.jpg&hash=cd443ee41e59aed84066ecf7556c94211eaa9fdb) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/IMG_4386_zps5c51a65c.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FIMG_3415_zps459f7f51.jpg&hash=b93e33b60e9c0536cea258193e278e56b8d3286a) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/IMG_3415_zps459f7f51.jpg.html)
Jessie, the second pic. The hair and the dress look just right. You look the most natural and your smile seems more real in that picture too. You look great!
Missy, um... YEAH YOU PASS! You look great. I love your hair.
Quote from: Jessie Ann on February 06, 2015, 08:31:47 PM
I can't post any non makeup natural pictures yet because I am not yet out, and all my pictures are pre anything.
So I have to decide if I am going to go to my first counseling session as me or as my old self. I need to know if I am close to being able to pass enough to go out in public and not look like a dude in makeup and try to figure out what hair style/color looks best on me. I just don't know what looks the best.
So between the ones I've posted any suggestions??? Comments??? Am I ready for my close up?? At 53 I know I am running out of time.....
Here are a few additional ones
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FIMG_4092_zpsbda8101b.jpg&hash=c680215c33c9a8af88c4424edffa5ed283a6eced) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/IMG_4092_zpsbda8101b.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FIMG_9417_zpscd2706bf.jpg&hash=e3d47a3481987e07c2d8a36f0548bd219549ae8d) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/IMG_9417_zpscd2706bf.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FIMG_4386_zps5c51a65c.jpg&hash=cd443ee41e59aed84066ecf7556c94211eaa9fdb) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/IMG_4386_zps5c51a65c.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FIMG_3415_zps459f7f51.jpg&hash=b93e33b60e9c0536cea258193e278e56b8d3286a) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/IMG_3415_zps459f7f51.jpg.html)
you dont seem to look 53, I think you look young for your age. you look great by the way! your makeup skills are much better than mine. Anyway if you are uncomfortable, for the time being, dressed and made up like that(outside) can you not just go dressed as you normally would?
Also I think your 3rd photograph hairstyle looks the best(the one with you in the blue top). ;)
Quote from: HeatherR on February 06, 2015, 08:10:14 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fclg9scK.jpg&hash=3984810ede8b472e39cfe00b17f4c28f04607f05)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FddCqmyg.jpg&hash=32685711c706250c7f1aab016e4e8aa309f370fe)
I feel like I'm getting somewhere finally:-)
I honestly can say, I can't from these photos see any vestiges of a 'man' in there.
you look 100% female to me
Quote from: ChiGirl on February 06, 2015, 09:01:25 PM
Jessie, the second pic. The hair and the dress look just right. You look the most natural and your smile seems more real in that picture too. You look great!
Thank you ChiGirl - I'm just going to have to wear different shoes. I don't think 5" animal platforms will work for me out in the real world. I want to blend in and not stand out and at 6'7" I don't think I could blend in as a female anywhere other than a WNBA practice. ::)
Jessie Ann,
You are going WAY overboard with the makeup. A key part of passing is not looking like a drag queen; it's unfortunate, but that's an image commonly associated with trans women. Sometimes, less is more. I tend to focus more on my contour than my eyes, and it does me a lot of good. Remember, subtle is what's going to help you pass-not dramatics. Drama is fun, but not practical. You might want to consider not lining under your eyes so thickly. Remember-subtle works. It takes more time to learn, but once you figure out what works for you, passing will seem a lot more in reach.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on February 06, 2015, 09:13:18 PM
Jessie Ann,
You are going WAY overboard with the makeup. A key part of passing is not looking like a drag queen;
:D
looks like the makeup style my older sister wears. It does look like you are going out for a night on the town.
Quote from: Joanne Feliz on February 06, 2015, 09:07:56 PM
Also I think your 3rd photograph hairstyle looks the best(the one with you in the blue top). ;)
Thanks Joanne - I am beginning to really see myself with that style full time. My natural hair is just about to the point where I might be able to pull that off with a little bit of coloring and styling.
Quote from: Joanne Feliz on February 06, 2015, 03:55:42 AM
Hi Tegan,
I think you look great. I think the only one that isnt quite there is the first photo. Perhaps it is the profile and your cheek bones or even a bad shadow cast from the light.
The rest are very feminine and a very great looking face/body. Im a bit jealous actually. ::)
I think you have great, strong features that make you beautiful and I am sure you will get even more so as you progress.
;)
Holy wow, Joanne. Thank you so much for your kind words.
So, for some reason one is no bueno. Okay. Well, can I ask if whatever it is that's grabbing you in that pic is also present in my "guy mode" pic? I'm curious.
Thanks!
-Teg
Quote from: Joanne Feliz on February 06, 2015, 09:15:47 PM
:D
It does look like you are going out for a night on the town.
That's because it is my going out for a night on the town look ;)
Here is a little more muted look. More natural looking and hopefully not to masculine.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FIMG_5746_zpsa4745022.jpg&hash=e718be380722ad10d6bcd610e8bceff73ce8f7a9) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/IMG_5746_zpsa4745022.jpg.html)
And in this one, you pass best of all I think! When it becomes an option, sculpting your eyebrows will go a long way. It's not to natural at all-remember, you are a woman; you don't need to perform femininity. I think one of the keys to passing is not making your gender expression a performance, at least not an overt one. This looks like an easy, natural expression-and it looks pretty darn great.
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on February 06, 2015, 09:57:04 PM
Holy wow, Joanne. Thank you so much for your kind words.
So, for some reason one is no bueno. Okay. Well, can I ask if whatever it is that's grabbing you in that pic is also present in my "guy mode" pic? I'm curious.
Thanks!
-Teg
I think it was the way the hair frames your face on the front profile. With your hair cut on the first pic you can see you have a strong jaw and cheek bones. Im the same probably, though in fact your probably much better at presenting than me, I don't even know where to start.
You wear nice clothes and seeing you and others on this site really is inspiring for me to be myself too.
You have only been on HRT for 3 months? Have you had any other work done on for face like surgery as your guy mode pic doesnt look too guyish to me.
Quote from: MissC on February 06, 2015, 07:26:49 PM
I know I can pass with makeup but I'm wondering if I pass without as in the picture below.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fet89j8.jpg&hash=a3034ee7f7ec3d040b652657f225339cc077a8e4)
Totally Pass!
Quote from: Joanne Feliz on February 06, 2015, 10:57:13 PM
I think it was the way the hair frames your face on the front profile. With your hair cut on the first pic you can see you have a strong jaw and cheek bones. Im the same probably, though in fact your probably much better at presenting than me, I don't even know where to start.
You wear nice clothes and seeing you and others on this site really is inspiring for me to be myself too.
You have only been on HRT for 3 months? Have you had any other work done on for face like surgery as your guy mode pic doesnt look too guyish to me.
No surgery, Joanne, but I'm flattered you think so. No, just weight loss, beard removal, and letting the hair grow.
"Strong jaw and cheekbones..." Jaw, really? Is it bad?
Anyway, here, for reference is a side-by-side. The left pic is from a few years ago, me at my heaviest.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F2AC910FF-8FDA-4B43-92AB-E612198BFD60.jpg&hash=e05dedc04f912bebeda73c316b63297c47515991) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/2AC910FF-8FDA-4B43-92AB-E612198BFD60.jpg.html)
That's my "so-far" comparison. Can't wait to see what the next few months of hormones will bring.
-Tegs
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on February 07, 2015, 01:19:40 AM
No surgery, Joanne, but I'm flattered you think so. No, just weight loss, beard removal, and letting the hair grow.
"Strong jaw and cheekbones..." Jaw, really? Is it bad?
Anyway, here, for reference is a side-by-side. The left pic is from a few years ago, me at my heaviest.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F2AC910FF-8FDA-4B43-92AB-E612198BFD60.jpg&hash=e05dedc04f912bebeda73c316b63297c47515991) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/2AC910FF-8FDA-4B43-92AB-E612198BFD60.jpg.html)
That's my "so-far" comparison. Can't wait to see what the next few months of hormones will bring.
-Tegs
Crickey Tegs, You look like a completely different person! That's incredible! :o
I haven't seen your before picture so i had no idea. i was just looking at the pictures you showed on your previous post.
I take it from your employer and family know :D
:(
Im sorry if my comment makes you doubt yourself.
When I saw your first pic the one I commented on - I didn't mean to make you feel bad or anything, I was just trying to give an honest answer. I think you can almost perceive a slight masculine jaw, check bone and temple. Nothing like your previous 'before' picture though :D
You say:
Quotejaw, really? Is it bad
Just want to say that none of your facial features are bad. Your pretty !
You should of seen the photos I sent off to dr chettawut for FFS, they weren't pretty LOL
Tegs, you mentioned that you hadn't had surgery. I was curious about that because some aspects of your face are incredibly feminine and I wasnt sure if you had FFS or not.
In my case I will definitely need surgery because I have quite a large brow bone and forehead.
You come such a long way judging from your before pic. Im truly amazed!
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on February 07, 2015, 01:19:40 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F2AC910FF-8FDA-4B43-92AB-E612198BFD60.jpg&hash=e05dedc04f912bebeda73c316b63297c47515991) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/2AC910FF-8FDA-4B43-92AB-E612198BFD60.jpg.html)
wow tegan!! you look so good, this comparison is amazing
How can I post a picture and or change my avatar?
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on February 06, 2015, 10:39:56 PM
And in this one, you pass best of all I think! When it becomes an option, sculpting your eyebrows will go a long way. It's not to natural at all-remember, you are a woman; you don't need to perform femininity. I think one of the keys to passing is not making your gender expression a performance, at least not an overt one. This looks like an easy, natural expression-and it looks pretty darn great.
Thank you. It is so hard to find a picture at times that adequately displays what you are trying to express. In this one I was trying to look as natural as possible and it actually looks a lot like my male self.
I am so looking forward to coming out and being able to have more than my eyebrows done. I also want to get some additional piercings done in my ears. My main goal right now is to get myself, then my family and then my work place ready for me to come out and transition. I want to pass in natural mode, work mode and evening mode. Because of my attraction to dark eyes I tend to go a little overboard on the liner and mascara. But there are a number of women in my workplace who do also. In my environment I don't believe it will draw any unnatural attention.
I know I don't need to perform femininity but I want to perform femininity much in the same way I currently preform masculinity. Because I have spent my 53 years of life in gender expression performance I don't think I am going to be able to stop now. I do know that I will never be able to stop my going into the many characters (male and female, young and old, foreign and domestic) that I can mimic. I can probably do over 100 different voices, mannerisms,nationalities and people. I do a very good Marlon Brando (I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse) and I can probably do half of the characters on the Simpson's. I can do drag queen and I can do queen mother. If it were not for the fact that I have a job that pays well (very much needed when I had young children to raise), has excellent benefits and is very diversity supportive I may have attempted acting/entertainment as a profession. I may still attempt that in a few years after I have completed my transition and I have retired from my job.
One thing I learned while going through counseling in my divorce is that you get to control who you are and how you act and react to other individuals. I had some very mean and spiteful things hurled at me by my ex. Why? She was trying to provoke an angry response that she could use in the divorce against me. I just laughed at her because she no longer had the power to define who I was and did not have the power to control my emotions. I have the ability to now dismiss insults as being irrelevant as far as I am concerned. I can't control what other people say or do but I can control how I react to it and how much I am willing to let it bother me.
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on February 07, 2015, 01:19:40 AM
Anyway, here, for reference is a side-by-side. The left pic is from a few years ago, me at my heaviest.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F2AC910FF-8FDA-4B43-92AB-E612198BFD60.jpg&hash=e05dedc04f912bebeda73c316b63297c47515991) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/2AC910FF-8FDA-4B43-92AB-E612198BFD60.jpg.html)
That's my "so-far" comparison. Can't wait to see what the next few months of hormones will bring.
-Tegs
Fantastic job "so-far"! I can't wait to see what HRT will do for you too. Your transformation so far really is amazing as sonson said.
Quote from: HeatherR on February 06, 2015, 08:10:14 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fclg9scK.jpg&hash=3984810ede8b472e39cfe00b17f4c28f04607f05)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FddCqmyg.jpg&hash=32685711c706250c7f1aab016e4e8aa309f370fe)
I feel like I'm getting somewhere finally:-)
You are not only getting somewhere you have arrived! You look very much like one of my youngest daughters friends. *hugs* to you girl you need a big congratulations one!!
http://imgur.com/a/9q4Vl (http://imgur.com/a/9q4Vl) My face from various angles. What do you think?
I have been super conscious of my face structure and how it changed ever since I knew (4 mths ago) of the possibility of stopping male characteristics development by hrt and thought of how I could look like. I think I am experiencing a male growth spurt right now, at least on the face. Not sure. Maybe I just started to notice how much the face changes in youth. It is very painful to just watch :( :(
Quote from: just ices on February 07, 2015, 01:47:59 PM
http://imgur.com/a/9q4Vl (http://imgur.com/a/9q4Vl) My face from various angles. What do you think?
I have been super conscious of my face structure and how it changed ever since I knew (4 mths ago) of the possibility of stopping male characteristics development by hrt and thought of how I could look like. I think I am experiencing a male growth spurt right now, at least on the face. Not sure. Maybe I just started to notice how much the face changes in youth. It is very painful to just watch :( :(
Not sure from your post if you are on/plan on HRT, but you could already pass, it looks like to me!
This cis girl is back after a busy few weeks. Just wanted to pipe up I loved seeing how many beautiful photos had been added to the thread!
Best to all of you!
Quote from: MirnaMinkoff on February 07, 2015, 04:17:33 PM
This cis girl is back after a busy few weeks. Just wanted to pipe up I loved seeing how many beautiful photos had been added to the thread!
Best to all of you!
Yay! Welcome back Mirna! :D
-Jade
:-*
Y'all are so sweet, I see glimpes of femininity, and loads of painted man face :-X
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGCEr29A.jpg&hash=a7d5601653a38ee6408d11e43ee781445b4f9d59)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWzVurCu.jpg&hash=df02e57260a4cad502778d9315a26963f6bf117f)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fx04O7bw.jpg&hash=2fa2b70fee6b9fd46b0452c7693cbc041426b373)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRPk1auk.jpg&hash=213220ad231f812e72bab8e06a75d2793b8f5bc7)
Quote from: HeatherR on February 07, 2015, 08:41:55 PM
Y'all are so sweet, I see glimpes of femininity, and loads of painted man face :-X
You look good, though! Especially in that second image along the top - we're our own worst critics, right?
Full dose HRT for about 4 months. Sometimes I see progress, other times not so much. I'd appreciate any feedback though, positive or negative.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8679/16468511872_32a999bd29_o.jpg) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7352/16283569267_8d26eb5793_o.jpg)
I just got my eyebrows done today, wanted to see how my face looked with makeup. Do you think I could pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi304.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fnn167%2Frobkuslits%2Fpic2_zps5qo9j83a.jpg&hash=4cc5e5a00f552b4e62546121214ef85fe9164aa5) (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/robkuslits/media/pic2_zps5qo9j83a.jpg.html)
Quote from: Jessie Ann on February 07, 2015, 11:21:52 AM
Fantastic job "so-far"! I can't wait to see what HRT will do for you too. Your transformation so far really is amazing as sonson said.
Thanks, Jessie. I'm already on HRT. 3.5 months.
Quote from: sonson on February 07, 2015, 04:49:32 AM
wow tegan!! you look so good, this comparison is amazing
Wow, Sonson, thank you. :D
Quote from: Joanne Feliz on February 07, 2015, 01:50:44 AM
Crickey Tegs, You look like a completely different person! That's incredible! :o
I haven't seen your before picture so i had no idea. i was just looking at the pictures you showed on your previous post.
I take it from your employer and family know :D
:(
Im sorry if my comment makes you doubt yourself.
When I saw your first pic the one I commented on - I didn't mean to make you feel bad or anything, I was just trying to give an honest answer. I think you can almost perceive a slight masculine jaw, check bone and temple. Nothing like your previous 'before' picture though :D
Just want to say that none of your facial features are bad. Your pretty !
You should of seen the photos I sent off to dr chettawut for FFS, they weren't pretty LOL
Tegs, you mentioned that you hadn't had surgery. I was curious about that because some aspects of your face are incredibly feminine and I wasnt sure if you had FFS or not.
In my case I will definitely need surgery because I have quite a large brow bone and forehead.
You come such a long way judging from your before pic. Im truly amazed!
My family knows, yes. Also a number of friends. Work will know when it is time for work to know. ;)
I think I'll get a better idea in the next few months if FFS should be on the docket for me.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback. Appreciated for sure.
-Teg
Someone here mentioned that I needed to post more photos for them to get a good idea of how I look. I figured I should probably post some photos of me that aren't so flattering. Like all of us, I look ok from certain angles-but here are some photos of what I look like when I'm not trying to make sure the camera is at the correct angle. Passing is very, very important to me. Why am I not doing it? Is it the way I dress? Do I need ffs? Or, is it something I can't change, like my hair or my frame? Please, please be brutally honest. I do not need encouragement. If I'm not going to be able to pull it off, please tell me while there's still time for me to plan my detransition before I graduate from collage.
The first two are a front and profile of me in crappy lighting without makeup, without doing my hair, or anything.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUVRS9of.jpg&hash=05278f31d4c95958bb15894bd6b0f98ceba7c2a1)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCtFEwvK.jpg&hash=9d32f10bb89ec0f36d692742855989f2d2fad475)
And, this one is just me in what I wore to the mall yesterday, in full makeup. Yeah, my hair is a mess...it's always like this. People were staring at me left and right yesterday, I'm sure I was being clocked a lot of the time.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeZyF5wC.jpg&hash=80ee4a1b6eabcd88fe6476034822094175d33ac6)
So, honestly-I've been on hrt for two years. Am I ever going to be able to really, actually pass 100%?
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on February 08, 2015, 12:36:27 PM
Someone here mentioned that I needed to post more photos for them to get a good idea of how I look. I figured I should probably post some photos of me that aren't so flattering. Like all of us, I look ok from certain angles-but here are some photos of what I look like when I'm not trying to make sure the camera is at the correct angle. Passing is very, very important to me. Why am I not doing it? Is it the way I dress? Do I need ffs? Or, is it something I can't change, like my hair or my frame? Please, please be brutally honest. I do not need encouragement. If I'm not going to be able to pull it off, please tell me while there's still time for me to plan my detransition before I graduate from collage.
The first two are a front and profile of me in crappy lighting without makeup, without doing my hair, or anything.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUVRS9of.jpg&hash=05278f31d4c95958bb15894bd6b0f98ceba7c2a1)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCtFEwvK.jpg&hash=9d32f10bb89ec0f36d692742855989f2d2fad475)
And, this one is just me in what I wore to the mall yesterday, in full makeup. Yeah, my hair is a mess...it's always like this. People were staring at me left and right yesterday, I'm sure I was being clocked a lot of the time.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeZyF5wC.jpg&hash=80ee4a1b6eabcd88fe6476034822094175d33ac6)
So, honestly-I've been on hrt for two years. Am I ever going to be able to really, actually pass 100%?
In other posts I have said you are beautiful, hot actually, and I stand by that. However, seeing more of your hair, I understand the stares. It's just a bit wild. Especially with the color. I don't think you are being clocked at all. I think they see a beautiful young women with wild and crazy hair. I do like your hair, but if you toned it down the stares would go away.
Pfft, no I'm not offended. I hate it, it's gotten really old. I'm trying to grow it out. It'll mean looking really dreadful for a few years though until it begins to obey the laws of gravity.
I think u are beautiful. If I saw you in person i think i would develop quite the crush. Your style is awesome, but it definitely says "hi, im queer." i don't mean that in a derogatory way at all of course. Im queer so i of course like it, but it might be a part of the reason you are getting the stares you do.
i think u have a super femme frame and beautiful soft skin, but i think u look really andro in these pics. you might wanna try a padded bra if you want to be seen as a female since you are pretty flat chested.
also since you asked about ffs. i could see it being beneficial tbh. but only for the brow because u have really deep set eyes and a protruding brow line which is evident in the second pic. and maybe the chin because it is kinda square. neither of which i would say are necessary but both things would help. the brow more so then the chin.
though i am positive that ur hair is part of why u are getting stared at, i actually love it. it is definitely unique and i think you rock it.
Quote from: jessical on February 08, 2015, 12:49:31 PM
In other posts I have said you are beautiful, hot actually, and I stand by that. However, seeing more of your hair, I understand the stares. It's just a bit wild. Especially with the color. I don't think you are being clocked at all. I think they see a beautiful young women with wild and crazy hair. I do like your hair, but if you toned it down the stares would go away.
Painter,
Jess is right. You look great- face and body don't have any features that make me look twice in a bad way. Yeah, it's the hair. I actually like the color, and think it suits you, but that coif needs to be tamed.
Don't detransition. I don't see a guy at all in your pictures, and it would be a shame to trade in the girl in the pictures with a guy who is unhappy and is suffering from a bad case of male-fail.
Chin up. The solution to your worries is a relatively cheap and inexpensive one.
I hope that helps. PM if you feel like chatting. Us tall girls got to back each other up. ;)
Cheers,
Teg
Uh huh, I second previous comments about hair - it is just bound to draw attention and I suspect that's the only reason why people are staring at You. I look much worse than You, painter, both jawline and nose-wise, besides the stuff I wear is nowhere close to feminine(unlike Your dress, which is very cute), but in 99% of cases I dont get any stares. People like unusual and Your hair looks like it is worth to have another look... :)
honestly the mall picture, you just look like any other girl shopping
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on February 08, 2015, 02:12:07 PM
Pfft, no I'm not offended. I hate it, it's gotten really old. I'm trying to grow it out. It'll mean looking really dreadful for a few years though until it begins to obey the laws of gravity.
A year, tops.
A year that'll pass regardless.
-Teg
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on February 08, 2015, 02:12:07 PM
Pfft, no I'm not offended. I hate it, it's gotten really old. I'm trying to grow it out. It'll mean looking really dreadful for a few years though until it begins to obey the laws of gravity.
You look great and you pass just fine to me. =)
Quote from: Robyn37 on February 07, 2015, 10:38:19 PM
I just got my eyebrows done today, wanted to see how my face looked with makeup. Do you think I could pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi304.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fnn167%2Frobkuslits%2Fpic2_zps5qo9j83a.jpg&hash=4cc5e5a00f552b4e62546121214ef85fe9164aa5) (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/robkuslits/media/pic2_zps5qo9j83a.jpg.html)
Robyn,
The eyebrows: go much, much thinner on them. If you got them professionally done, I can only imagine that you simply told them to clean them up. That won't get them to produce a feminine shape for you. Ask for what you want. I tell my girls that I want them thin and pretty.
Also, is that chest hair, or are the shadows just doing funky things? If it is, lose it, and you will feel a lot better, I assure you.
And it appears that you are wearing a wig? I don't have much experience with them, but there is something about the hairline that does not look quite right; someone help me out with this.
Yeah, though, The first thing I would do is go thinner with the eyebrows.
Cheers,
Teg
Friends all swear I pass, but I can't help but doubt myself.
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Quote from: StrykerXIII on February 09, 2015, 02:11:29 AM
Friends all swear I pass, but I can't help but doubt myself.
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:/ Sorry, but....
.. they'd have to be blind to gender you male.
Quote from: Anastasia E on February 09, 2015, 02:25:10 AM
:/ Sorry, but....
.. they'd have to be blind to gender you male.
Gah! That actually made me blush. As I said, I can't help but doubt myself...probably just because I'm still very insecure and unsure of who I really am.
Teg, thank you for the honesty! I get my chest waxed, and I asked her to do my eyebrows and put a little bit of arch in them. I would love to go thinner, but I have always had huge bushy caterpillars and don't want to draw too much attention yet. And yes that is a wig lol, I have a LOOONG way to go before my natural hair is as long as I would like it. Overall considering how I looked six months ago I am pretty happy with how I look now, and I know it can only get better! You look amazing by the way!
Quote from: StrykerXIII on February 09, 2015, 02:11:29 AM
Friends all swear I pass, but I can't help but doubt myself.
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Why not?
barbie~~
Stryker-
You do have some fairly masculine features and some feminine ones; you aren't there yet, but you're not too far off. I think the wig might be a place to start-if you are going to take that route, a more natural looking one will go a long way. You do have thin lips-I have a similar problem, and like to use a very subtle natural-toned lipliner to make them appear just a little bit larger. Also, you can only tell so much from the fact-if your frame is more masculine, you might want to think about if your wardrobe is flattering for your body type or not. What sort of clothes do you usually wear?
This being said, you have great jaw and chin structure. You're really lucky in that respect.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on February 09, 2015, 12:19:23 PM
Stryker-
You do have some fairly masculine features and some feminine ones; you aren't there yet, but you're not too far off. I think the wig might be a place to start-if you are going to take that route, a more natural looking one will go a long way. You do have thin lips-I have a similar problem, and like to use a very subtle natural-toned lipliner to make them appear just a little bit larger. Also, you can only tell so much from the fact-if your frame is more masculine, you might want to think about if your wardrobe is flattering for your body type or not. What sort of clothes do you usually wear?
This being said, you have great jaw and chin structure. You're really lucky in that respect. S
I knew the wig might throw it a bit. That thing's been fairly unruly. My natural hair's workable, I just can't find a feminine style for it. I've been parting it the same way for like eight years now...feel like I'm stuck in a style rut.
As far as my frame, I've actually got a pretty decent figure. A bit broad-shouldered, but not too bad. And I have GREAT hips and a killer backside (nature's apology to me for making me flat I guess ;D )
Hmmm...it migth be a good idea to see a professional stylist just once to see what ideas they might have. I know what you mean wrt a style rut-I was wearing all the menswear that's just coming into style today in 2010! You'll learn to adapt as time goes on-at least, I have. I know I must seem like a hypocrite with regaurds to the hair issue, but trust me, in theory, I know it will help.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on February 08, 2015, 12:36:27 PM
Someone here mentioned that I needed to post more photos for them to get a good idea of how I look. I figured I should probably post some photos of me that aren't so flattering. Like all of us, I look ok from certain angles-but here are some photos of what I look like when I'm not trying to make sure the camera is at the correct angle. Passing is very, very important to me. Why am I not doing it? Is it the way I dress? Do I need ffs? Or, is it something I can't change, like my hair or my frame? Please, please be brutally honest. I do not need encouragement. If I'm not going to be able to pull it off, please tell me while there's still time for me to plan my detransition before I graduate from collage.
The first two are a front and profile of me in crappy lighting without makeup, without doing my hair, or anything.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUVRS9of.jpg&hash=05278f31d4c95958bb15894bd6b0f98ceba7c2a1)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCtFEwvK.jpg&hash=9d32f10bb89ec0f36d692742855989f2d2fad475)
And, this one is just me in what I wore to the mall yesterday, in full makeup. Yeah, my hair is a mess...it's always like this. People were staring at me left and right yesterday, I'm sure I was being clocked a lot of the time.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeZyF5wC.jpg&hash=80ee4a1b6eabcd88fe6476034822094175d33ac6)
So, honestly-I've been on hrt for two years. Am I ever going to be able to really, actually pass 100%?
Hi Beautiful,
In your full body shot you are cute. I would look at you because you are cute. And you have style. You deserve a lingering gaze in order to appreciate you and your talent for style. I love the hair. Sure it is wild. But I would gaze upon your hair longer than most other people's hair because yours is different... but it is different in a wonderful unbridled and feminine way. It is feminine. Your nose is extremely feminine. Your chin shape is strong, but not too strong, not as strong as many beautiful women. It has a lovely shape. It is square, but just nicely delicately square. If you want me to name the women whose chins are stronger than yours... let me know. Your lips are pretty and so are your eyes. Your brow bossing in the side view is masculine. It is your #1 tell. If you really feel like you are not passing, the brow bossing would be the first place to address. Reducing brow bossing is one of the easiest surgeries from which to recover and the results would be visible in days not weeks. recovery from brow surgery and success in the outcome, in the hands of master like Facial Team, Dr. D or Dr. Bart, has become almost automatic.
Kind Regards, Danielle
thank you all for your kind words in earlier posts, and I hope I am not pestering you with my posts.
I just wanted to show a picture of me going for androgynous presentation:
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any idea if I could pull off being female in the future?
I hope to start hormone therapy soon, but i thought this might make me feel better.
Thank you very much,
-MortifiedPenguin
Whelp, I was about to type "wrong thread, there's a separate one for trans masc folks", so I'd say you're off to a pretty good start.
Passing is harder than looking androgynous, it requires a different set of "skills". But yeah...you're doing pretty well.
Can't post pictures yet, but I'm always told that I'm very fishy. I naturally have curves to my bone structure, not masculine or manly looking at all.. I haven't start any hormones, and I'm barely seeking therapy but we'll sorry for getting off subject, you can check out my Instagram @kingrymua___ or check out my youtube channel.. http://youtu.be/T7ehLqRRwms , I'm going to be blogging about my transitioning.. Thanks!
Quote from: Kingrymua on February 09, 2015, 11:47:28 PM
Can't post pictures yet, but I'm always told that I'm very fishy. I naturally have curves to my bone structure, not masculine or manly looking at all.. I haven't start any hormones, and I'm barely seeking therapy but we'll sorry for getting off subject, you can check out my Instagram @kingrymua___ or check out my youtube channel.. http://youtu.be/T7ehLqRRwms , I'm going to be blogging about my transitioning.. Thanks!
Your face does have a lot of potential, but just one little thing... I totally get where you're coming from, but now that you're going through with transition, you might want to start unlearning words like "fish" and "fishy." At least outside of drag circles. It has a tendency to rub certain people the wrong way, and I've never, ever heard a biological female use that word. Except maybe Michelle Visage, but who the hell knows what she is?
Don't even worry about the vocabulary; your cadence and tone sounds like that of a gay guy, which I totally get. It took me ages to shake that! It can be done though...you need to work on softening your voice. Do that and you're going to be fine.
Quote from: Just Kate on January 24, 2015, 01:17:10 AM
It's been years since I've been to this site with any regularity. Life and denial got in the way, but I'm finally moving forward. :)
The pictures below are my starting point. I'd like to get an idea of what I need to do to complete my look. I own no makeup (I'm not wearing any either), so if there are any recommendations for makeup, please give me specifics on what you think I need.
That is my natural hair, but I'm clueless what to do with it.
Suggestions welcome!
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You actually have potential. I'm a makeup artist and I've mastered the art of makeup. Even after my transition, I'll wear a boatload of makeup lol.. But look into contouring, it'll be your new bestFriend. Especially the nose , it's the most masculine feature of your face, also I'd thin the brows out a bit or reshape them. Lol
Quote from: VivianK on February 10, 2015, 12:01:45 AM
Your face does have a lot of potential, but just one little thing... I totally get where you're coming from, but now that you're going through with transition, you might want to start unlearning words like "fish" and "fishy." At least outside of drag circles. It has a tendency to rub certain people the wrong way, and I've never, ever heard a biological female use that word. Except maybe Michelle Visage, but who the hell knows what she is?
Lol thank you ! It is a habit! I can admit, I'll need to stop it big time! I barely come out about this literally 3 days ago.. It'll take time lol. Thanks tho! I'll keep all that in mind. :)
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on February 10, 2015, 12:09:54 AM
Don't even worry about the vocabulary; your cadence and tone sounds like that of a gay guy, which I totally get. It took me ages to shake that! It can be done though...you need to work on softening your voice. Do that and you're going to be fine.
Oh yes! Now that's going to be hard! Me and my bestFriend were literally talking about that .. Hopefully hormones helps out.. Btw what does hrt mean? I'm very very new to this all..
Quote from: Kingrymua on February 10, 2015, 12:17:59 AM
Oh yes! Now that's going to be hard! Me and my bestFriend were literally talking about that .. Hopefully hormones helps out.. Btw what does hrt mean? I'm very very new to this all..
Hormone replacement therapy. And no, estrogen will not affect your voice. Practice is the only solution. Surgery also exists to correct your pitch, but it's often unnecessary with enough training, and won't change your cadence or inflection anyhow.
Quote from: MortifiedPenguin on February 09, 2015, 11:21:17 PM
thank you all for your kind words in earlier posts, and I hope I am not pestering you with my posts.
I just wanted to show a picture of me going for androgynous presentation:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t34.0-12/10966808_771354342944539_1642461226_n.jpg?oh=7f016628410829d45deaae60ef52993f&oe=54DC5315&__gda__=1423725493_84c1780f43acf93743bae82fa836cb2c)
any idea if I could pull off being female in the future?
I hope to start hormone therapy soon, but i thought this might make me feel better.
Thank you very much,
-MortifiedPenguin
You look great MortifiedPenuin. I think you are really over worrying. you look fantastic and I am sure you would make a great looking woman. You are much better looking than me with already much better bone structure, forehead, nose etc... I wish I had your face LOL ;)
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on February 08, 2015, 12:36:27 PM
Someone here mentioned that I needed to post more photos for them to get a good idea of how I look. I figured I should probably post some photos of me that aren't so flattering. Like all of us, I look ok from certain angles-but here are some photos of what I look like when I'm not trying to make sure the camera is at the correct angle. Passing is very, very important to me. Why am I not doing it? Is it the way I dress? Do I need ffs? Or, is it something I can't change, like my hair or my frame? Please, please be brutally honest. I do not need encouragement. If I'm not going to be able to pull it off, please tell me while there's still time for me to plan my detransition before I graduate from collage.
The first two are a front and profile of me in crappy lighting without makeup, without doing my hair, or anything.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUVRS9of.jpg&hash=05278f31d4c95958bb15894bd6b0f98ceba7c2a1)
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And, this one is just me in what I wore to the mall yesterday, in full makeup. Yeah, my hair is a mess...it's always like this. People were staring at me left and right yesterday, I'm sure I was being clocked a lot of the time.
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So, honestly-I've been on hrt for two years. Am I ever going to be able to really, actually pass 100%?
You look fantastic painter. You look very chic! I love your hair, i am sure the looks you were getting were looks of appreciation of how good looking you are or jealousy at your hair of something from the girls. You look a bit like a girl I went to university with.
:D
Quote from: bxcellent2eo on February 05, 2015, 02:35:41 AM
Click to enlarge:
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I am really impressed with your transformation. i cant believe how well your hair grew back! And you look so much younger now!
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on January 21, 2015, 10:37:03 AM
I got buried before I could get any feedback, so I'm cutting back to the front of the line.
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The rest are from about a week ago.
Just looking through some of the old posts. I really like your clothes your wearing Teg. I think you have a good fashion sense. I really like the trousers and the shoes with that top looks super. What sort of pants are those i need to get something similar I think.
Also, the pictures your posing look really good too!
sorry the other pictures got lost in quoting your old post
Quote from: Joanne Feliz on February 10, 2015, 06:47:47 AM
Just looking through some of the old posts. I really like your clothes your wearing Teg. I think you have a good fashion sense. I really like the trousers and the shoes with that top looks super. What sort of pants are those i need to get something similar I think.
Also, the pictures your posing look really good too!
sorry the other pictures got lost in quoting your old post
Gosh Joanne,
You are spoiling me with attention!
Thank you very much for the compliments; they are most welcome, and quite beneficial to the confidence. The top was a random find that I got at a store near the beach when my friend Julie Blair came to visit. The choker is from H&M, and I love it. In fact, I'm wearing it right now, in guy mode. (I know, I'm kind of pushing it.) The shoes, I believe, are simple ballet flats from American Eagle, though I bought them from eBay early in my questioning.
I remember this day. I didn't intend to get dressed up. The flats have become my around the house shoes, my comfy house slippers. Anyway, I decided to try on the shirt, and I liked how it looked. Add a choker and lipstick, and you have an impromptu photo shoot, LOL.
The pants are actually the same ones I went to work in. They're guy pants, from the men's section of Hot Topic. The brand is Rude, and the fit is Slim Straight Leg. They kind of fit me like high waters or capris these days.
Anyway, thank you for all your encouragement. Feel free to PM me if you'd like to chat.
Cheers,
Teg
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on February 08, 2015, 12:36:27 PM
The first two are a front and profile of me in crappy lighting without makeup, without doing my hair, or anything.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUVRS9of.jpg&hash=05278f31d4c95958bb15894bd6b0f98ceba7c2a1)
You so look like a girl I went to high school with. :) But cuter.
- Jess
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on February 09, 2015, 11:37:53 PM
Whelp, I was about to type "wrong thread, there's a separate one for trans masc folks", so I'd say you're off to a pretty good start.
Passing is harder than looking androgynous, it requires a different set of "skills". But yeah...you're doing pretty well.
You look like a lovely and trendy young girl. Your photos remind me of punk rock style, which means that you can easily attract people's eyes. If you do not want to enjoy people's attention, then you may try rather plain clothes and hair styles of girls.
barbie~~
well this is me I have not started any HRT yet as I'm still waiting on appointments and such I'm almost FT now even prior and haven't had an issue yet with been called out.
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please be gentle >.< i need to expand my wardrobe
New Hair <3 Do you like it? I'm not on HRT anymore and I feel so bad lately because I'm starting to get a very visible five o' clock shadow, and I think I'm starting to grow an adam's apple too :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Quote from: Kingrymua on February 09, 2015, 11:47:28 PM
Can't post pictures yet, but I'm always told that I'm very fishy. I naturally have curves to my bone structure, not masculine or manly looking at all.. I haven't start any hormones, and I'm barely seeking therapy but we'll sorry for getting off subject, you can check out my Instagram @kingrymua___ or check out my youtube channel.. http://youtu.be/T7ehLqRRwms , I'm going to be blogging about my transitioning.. Thanks!
Ignore that woman you can use whatever vocabulary you like to, there are many trans women that do drag too... But yeah the make up is a bit too much, it makes it obvious and I don't think you can be stealth wearing so much make up... You should definitely start therapy first! I love your youtube channel, I made one too, I think it's great that more trans women are starting to document their transition.
Quote from: Serena ♡ on February 12, 2015, 08:53:14 PM
New Hair <3 Do you like it? I'm not on HRT anymore and I feel so bad lately because I'm starting to get a very visible five o' clock shadow, and I think I'm starting to grow an adam's apple too :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Sorry about not being able to be on hormone :(
you look beautiful in the pic though
Quote from: Serena ♡ on February 12, 2015, 08:53:14 PM
New Hair <3 Do you like it? I'm not on HRT anymore and I feel so bad lately because I'm starting to get a very visible five o' clock shadow, and I think I'm starting to grow an adam's apple too :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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You're so cute. :3
Quote from: Just Kate on January 24, 2015, 01:17:10 AM
It's been years since I've been to this site with any regularity. Life and denial got in the way, but I'm finally moving forward. :)
The pictures below are my starting point. I'd like to get an idea of what I need to do to complete my look. I own no makeup (I'm not wearing any either), so if there are any recommendations for makeup, please give me specifics on what you think I need.
That is my natural hair, but I'm clueless what to do with it.
Suggestions welcome!
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You're beautiful. You look a lot like a brunette version of my cis friend :]
I'm pre everything. Just looking for opinions on femininity and future possibilities.
I wear makeup when I can but not all the time because I'm not out yet and obviously my hair is very short.
Don't even get me started on those forehead wrinkles :P
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Quote from: Serena ♡ on February 12, 2015, 08:53:14 PM
New Hair <3 Do you like it? I'm not on HRT anymore and I feel so bad lately because I'm starting to get a very visible five o' clock shadow, and I think I'm starting to grow an adam's apple too :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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I think that hair style suits you, it's very pretty indeed. However, to dispell your doubts: hrt hardly affects ones facial hair; going off of it can hardly do anything but make it less soft, and you just can't grow an Adam's apple overnight :)
I think these are just your apprehensions, it happens especially when one goes off hrt, which makes a big psychological impact, so doubt just crowd up - I've been there.
FWIW, I've seen your videos and posts here and I think you pass about 90%. Maybe even 100% but it's hard to judge with makeup on.
Kind regards, Vanya.
P.S. Notify me if you want me to unquote your picture.
Quote from: Serena ♡ on February 12, 2015, 08:53:14 PM
New Hair <3 Do you like it? I'm not on HRT anymore and I feel so bad lately because I'm starting to get a very visible five o' clock shadow, and I think I'm starting to grow an adam's apple too :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Serena, you look fabulous. I am not sure, but I guess it is not a big deal to stop HRT, at least temporarily, as you are already a lovely girl.
Yes. Your new hair fits perfectly.
barbie~~
I must say that as a trans woman we are all beautiful. Keep them all coming :)
Ladies, I'm debating if I should use this hair for a party that I am attending this Tuesday. I have a pixie hair that I am growing out. However, I am getting tired of it. However, my anxiety of wearing a unit is getting the best of me. It's a deep lace part and it looks natural for me.
What do you think, ladies?
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Thanks!
Hey so i finally got to add an avatar. My current avatar is my current look, which is what i call my standard look. Anyway, i kind of look like Alex from Modern Family but grown up.
What do you think?
Love it Monika :) Looking good.
Quote from: adumava on February 13, 2015, 02:05:46 PM
I'm pre everything. Just looking for opinions on femininity and future possibilities.
I wear makeup when I can but not all the time because I'm not out yet and obviously my hair is very short.
Don't even get me started on those forehead wrinkles :P
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Relax your forehead, and plug hair out of your eyebrows, maybe go to a salon or somewhere to have them done, ask for feminine eyebrows, and then you can just clean them yourself when you need to by plugging extra hair that grows... The hair will grow, but you can use a wig if you plan to go part time... And wearing make up is great, the most you practice the better you get at it! Also, try to go to a therapist as soon as possible
Quote from: carmenkate on February 13, 2015, 09:06:20 PM
I must say that as a trans woman we are all beautiful. Keep them all coming :)
Ladies, I'm debating if I should use this hair for a party that I am attending this Tuesday. I have a pixie hair that I am growing out. However, I am getting tired of it. However, my anxiety of wearing a unit is getting the best of me. It's a deep lace part and it looks natural for me.
What do you think, ladies?
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Thanks!
Hi carmenkate,
you look fantastic(as always). I really like your haircut. Do you think the hair would look a bit better if some of the wavy length were cut? What is a unit?
Anyway, i think you look stunning! I hope you have a great party!
:)
Quote from: adumava on February 13, 2015, 02:05:46 PM
I'm pre everything. Just looking for opinions on femininity and future possibilities.
I wear makeup when I can but not all the time because I'm not out yet and obviously my hair is very short.
Don't even get me started on those forehead wrinkles :P
(https://36.media.tumblr.com/b5f64abc5bb92389e8d224851c6dfa7b/tumblr_njq7lqzI7G1qdbn12o1_500.jpg)(https://41.media.tumblr.com/0962b75f7f38e5411ed758c29b07223e/tumblr_njq7lqzI7G1qdbn12o4_250.jpg)
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you should try to grow your hair out. From the picture you look to have pretty good skin, is nice and clear. You prob look better than me ;)
I wouldn't worry about your forehead but if you are concerned about it, you can wear your hair in such a way to disguise it(when your hair is longer)
:)
Quote from: Serena ♡ on February 14, 2015, 03:18:18 AM
Relax your forehead, and plug hair out of your eyebrows, maybe go to a salon or somewhere to have them done, ask for feminine eyebrows, and then you can just clean them yourself when you need to by plugging extra hair that grows... The hair will grow, but you can use a wig if you plan to go part time... And wearing make up is great, the most you practice the better you get at it! Also, try to go to a therapist as soon as possible
For forehead wrinkles, botox will greatly reduce them.
barbie~~
Hello Joanne,
Babe thank you :) It's all just make-up. Joanne, a unit is another term for a wig.
It aint my hair (keeping it real) just saying. However, I am having anxiety wearing one coz I have a crazy head.
Anyways, you are such a sweetheart and I hope you start shopping for those dolman sleeves I was telling you about to get those shoulders in order.
Hugs and Love,
April
Quote from: Joanne Feliz on February 14, 2015, 06:05:53 AM
Hi carmenkate,
you look fantastic(as always). I really like your haircut. Do you think the hair would look a bit better if some of the wavy length were cut? What is a unit?
Anyway, i think you look stunning! I hope you have a great party!
:)
Hi Babe,
First of all, you have a very good base to work on :).
I would just avoid frowning or maybe try some facial exercises to improve the skins elasticity.
I would also take some biotin to help you grow out your hair. It also makes your skin glow.
Love,
April
Quote from: adumava on February 13, 2015, 02:05:46 PM
I'm pre everything. Just looking for opinions on femininity and future possibilities.
I wear makeup when I can but not all the time because I'm not out yet and obviously my hair is very short.
Don't even get me started on those forehead wrinkles :P
(https://36.media.tumblr.com/b5f64abc5bb92389e8d224851c6dfa7b/tumblr_njq7lqzI7G1qdbn12o1_500.jpg)(https://41.media.tumblr.com/0962b75f7f38e5411ed758c29b07223e/tumblr_njq7lqzI7G1qdbn12o4_250.jpg)
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I think I pass in this video almost to the end of this video. I was actually posing for pictures, rather than trying to dance, and my heels were getting caught in the thick carpeting, but there is a hint here as to how my dancing has given me some fame in the local club scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR4fJ0IQITw&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR4fJ0IQITw&feature=youtu.be)
Quote from: carmenkate on February 13, 2015, 09:06:20 PM
I must say that as a trans woman we are all beautiful. Keep them all coming :)
Ladies, I'm debating if I should use this hair for a party that I am attending this Tuesday. I have a pixie hair that I am growing out. However, I am getting tired of it. However, my anxiety of wearing a unit is getting the best of me. It's a deep lace part and it looks natural for me.
What do you think, ladies?
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Thanks!
Honestly, I'd just go with the pixie cut. The only thing here that comes remotely close to clocking you is the wig-you look really, really stunning besides that.
Thanks Andro :) your feedback is appreciated.
Big Hugs!
April
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on February 14, 2015, 04:14:21 PM
Honestly, I'd just go with the pixie cut. The only thing here that comes remotely close to clocking you is the wig-you look really, really stunning besides that.
Hey Carmenkate, I love your hair btw. :D
Quote from: carmenkate on February 13, 2015, 09:06:20 PM
I must say that as a trans woman we are all beautiful. Keep them all coming :)
Ladies, I'm debating if I should use this hair for a party that I am attending this Tuesday. I have a pixie hair that I am growing out. However, I am getting tired of it. However, my anxiety of wearing a unit is getting the best of me. It's a deep lace part and it looks natural for me.
What do you think, ladies?
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Thanks!
IMHO, you know what you should wear. A great sense of makeup, fashion and beauty. Most trans-women tend to wear too boldly, at least in the initial stages, including myself. I am sure your makeup skill is better than ordinary cis-women. People will praise your appearance.
barbie~~
Ok here's my pixie cut :)
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or
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thanks again beauties xoxo
HI I AM Vanny! I am new here. Hello everyone!!!
Eyewear, especially shades are awesome and really help out. I have transgendered servers everywhere here. No one cares. They are not looking for a person like us. We show them one (not you).
Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder, but I bet there are many who would be thrilled to meet you as you are. Pretty!
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Carmenkate, You look beautiful with your short hair!
Emily
Quote from: Emily R on February 15, 2015, 09:25:47 AM
Carmenkate, You look beautiful with your short hair!
Emily
^agree
I'd go with the pixie cut
Quote from: carmenkate on February 15, 2015, 09:17:47 AM
Ok here's my pixie cut :)
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or
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thanks again beauties xoxo
Pixie cut! Real hair ALWAYS looks better.
Andro, Emily and sqrkbkwmqko
Thanks again for the feedback ladies xoxo
Carmenkate, i like you better with the longer hair. The longer hair makes you cuter.
I like the longer hair also, and I love your complexion; you have the prettiest skin :)
I like the long hair as well but it looks like ur hair is really thick and beautiful. I think it looks wonderful now, but in my opinion it would better if you continue to grow it out. you pass with or with out long hair in my imo.
Just a few pictures of me over the past few weeks and months that I feel decent in. By the way, I have not been and am currently not on HRT.. my Pentecostal mom and transphobic dad won't let me. :(
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I haven't started E or anything because I'm still in the military, but here's me.
Riven, you look pretty passable in your avatar. Do you have a bigger photo?
- Jess
Went out for the day like this. Wife caught a guy checking me out from behind, so at least my butt passes. :) Anyone care to critique my face?
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Quote from: Jessica Jaclyn Reimer on February 16, 2015, 07:41:33 PM
Went out for the day like this. Wife caught a guy checking me out from behind, so at least my butt passes. :) Anyone care to critique my face?
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7442/16529265656_6b7143f3cf_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rbCNNU)jess feb 15 2015 (https://flic.kr/p/rbCNNU) by Jessica Ann Jaymz (https://www.flickr.com/people/23453550@N05/), on Flickr
Hi Jessica, you look good, but your chin is longer than most cis women, and lip augmentation would add to your beauty also.
Hi Jaclyn,
First of all, amazing make up skill. However, I have to agree with Ms. MissyMay :) However, do not despair. You have to learn how to use make up to contour your jaw and chin. I would place a bit of contour on your chin to eliminate some of the length. I would overdraw your lips to give you that Cindy Crawford lips xoxo
Otherwise, you're a beauty xoxo
April
Quote from: missymay on February 16, 2015, 07:54:25 PM
Hi Jessica, you look good, but your chin is longer than most cis women, and lip augmentation would add to your beauty also.
Thank you Miss Beauty xoxo I miss seeing you here
Hugs!
April
Quote from: missymay on February 15, 2015, 07:50:59 PM
I like the longer hair also, and I love your complexion; you have the prettiest skin :)
Amber!!!! Girl!!!!!
Thanks for the feedback :) As always you are looking hawt in your avatar.
Stay gorgeous!
April
Quote from: amber roskamp on February 15, 2015, 08:58:34 PM
I like the long hair as well but it looks like ur hair is really thick and beautiful. I think it looks wonderful now, but in my opinion it would better if you continue to grow it out. you pass with or with out long hair in my imo.
Monika my love, thank you.
Stay pretty.
April
Quote from: Monika the diva on February 15, 2015, 06:43:34 PM
Carmenkate, i like you better with the longer hair. The longer hair makes you cuter.
April, you look wonderful in both. I agree real hair always looks better and as the pixie grows out that will even be more so the case. You pass either way though.
Mariah
Quote from: carmenkate on February 15, 2015, 09:17:47 AM
Ok here's my pixie cut :)
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thanks again beauties xoxo
Thanks Missymay and April! Appreciate the comments.
Yeah, I was taught contouring, I just currently am using the makeup I have (and using money on other things like hair removal currently) and I don't have anything that works as contouring. So, I make do with what I have. :) Same thing with the lips - no lip liners and going bigger without them doesn't work so well. But thanks for the compliment on the makeup I do. <3
My cousin used to work at a spa, and has a lot of makeup artist friends. I've had one makeover/lesson, and apparently there are 2 more coming from different artists. :) I'm a lucky girl.
The chances of me getting any FFS are really slim, so hoping HRT can help with the face a bit (should be starting first week in March).
April, I think your natural hair is the way to go. So jealous.
Hugs,
Jess
You all are so beautiful!
Ms Mariah thank you beauty.
Time to change that avatar :) Saw the new do and its 110% better.
Love yah girl.
Quote from: Mariah2014 on February 16, 2015, 08:55:32 PM
April, you look wonderful in both. I agree real hair always looks better and as the pixie grows out that will even be more so the case. You pass either way though.
Mariah
Babe no worries :)
Im here to help.
For contour, you can just get a nice matte bronzer for contouring. You can get them cheap at CVS, Ulta or any drugstore.
I would recommend this bronzer/contour compact for $2.00 USD I think ( so expensive right) A lot of beauty gurus rave about it since it's cheap and amazingly good.
http://www.cvs.com/shop/beauty/face/bronzer/n-y-c-smooth-skin-bronzing-face-powder-sunny-720a-skuid-870197
Here's the great reviews it's getting:
http://www.makeupalley.com/product/showreview.asp/ItemId=31393/Smooth-Skin-Bronzing-Face-Powder-in-Sunny-720/New-York-Color/Bronzers
For lipliners, just get the rimmel lip liners in Natural. It's cheap about $3.00
Let me know if you need anything else.
xoxo
April
Quote from: Jessica Jaclyn Reimer on February 16, 2015, 11:24:21 PM
Thanks Missymay and April! Appreciate the comments.
Yeah, I was taught contouring, I just currently am using the makeup I have (and using money on other things like hair removal currently) and I don't have anything that works as contouring. So, I make do with what I have. :) Same thing with the lips - no lip liners and going bigger without them doesn't work so well. But thanks for the compliment on the makeup I do. <3
My cousin used to work at a spa, and has a lot of makeup artist friends. I've had one makeover/lesson, and apparently there are 2 more coming from different artists. :) I'm a lucky girl.
The chances of me getting any FFS are really slim, so hoping HRT can help with the face a bit (should be starting first week in March).
April, I think your natural hair is the way to go. So jealous.
Hugs,
Jess
Your welcome April. I agree it's time to change it. The next time I do a selfie I will. I appreciate your saying that. :)
Mariah
Quote from: carmenkate on February 17, 2015, 10:49:39 AM
Ms Mariah thank you beauty.
Time to change that avatar :) Saw the new do and its 110% better.
Love yah girl.
babe just use the one on facebook :) you look so beautiful there xoxo
Quote from: Mariah2014 on February 17, 2015, 10:54:50 AM
Your welcome April. I agree it's time to change it. The next time I do a selfie I will. I appreciate your saying that. :)
Mariah
April, you have given me the confidence to make the change. Thank You.
Mariah
Quote from: carmenkate on February 17, 2015, 10:56:02 AM
babe just use the one on facebook :) you look so beautiful there xoxo
YAY look at that beautiful face!
April
Quote from: Mariah2014 on February 17, 2015, 11:11:24 AM
April, you have given me the confidence to make the change. Thank You.
Mariah
Thank You again April. Yours is too. :)
Mariah
Valentines Day ^_^
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great bunch of girls here isnt it wonderful to be a girl!!
Hi!
I'm from Sweden, 20 years old - and I just started my process.. on these pictures I have taken no hormones, no treatment at all. I'm trying to figure out if I'll pass when I'm done with my process. :) .. and I'm 5" 10 :( haha..
The girl next to me at on picture is my sister..!
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Sweden-when you're done? Yep, unless you're exceptionaly tall or have voice problems, you'll pass. Right now-the wig is a bit much, and I'd take some time to work on your makeup, but you have real potential-I'd have killed for your starting point.
My turn, here I come... :)
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Before FFS, right now I am in Lima for a forehead remodeling and rhinoplasty. Later on, my chin, perhaps...
Quote from: gslvqz on February 18, 2015, 11:54:30 AM
My turn, here I come... :)
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Before FFS, right now I am in Lima for a forehead remodeling and rhinoplasty. Later on, my chin, perhaps...
^^^^^^^
hottie
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on February 18, 2015, 11:23:30 AM
Sweden-when you're done? Yep, unless you're exceptionaly tall or have voice problems, you'll pass. Right now-the wig is a bit much, and I'd take some time to work on your makeup, but you have real potential-I'd have killed for your starting point.
Yea! Exactly my chance to pass when I'm done :). Well I'm 5"10 .. but Taylor swift is 5"11 haha :).. so hopefully it won't be a problem.. and when I was living in the US when I called different organizations.. they said Miss to me.. so I don't think I have voice issues.. think I'm blessed with a kinda high pitch voice. I've been singing all my life and I'm the top tenor :). About make-up.. on the pictures I have nothing but lip-stick.. haha.. so yea - I gotta work on that.. haha
I know the wig is over-the top.. but I just had to see how I looked in long hair.. can't wait for mine to grow out..
Thank you :) <3
Quote from: Seemenow on February 17, 2015, 01:00:44 PM
Valentines Day ^_^
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FLAWLESS
Quote from: gslvqz on February 18, 2015, 11:54:30 AM
My turn, here I come... :)
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Before FFS, right now I am in Lima for a forehead remodeling and rhinoplasty. Later on, my chin, perhaps...
You're gorgeous!
Quote from: Seemenow on February 17, 2015, 01:00:44 PM
Valentines Day ^_^
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Wow, you look like a cis sister... If I passed you in the street I would not know. And I truly mean that.
Quote from: SwedenMtf on February 18, 2015, 03:05:47 AM
Hi!
I'm from Sweden, 20 years old - and I just started my process.. on these pictures I have taken no hormones, no treatment at all. I'm trying to figure out if I'll pass when I'm done with my process. :) .. and I'm 5" 10 :( haha..
The girl next to me at on picture is my sister..!
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To me you pass already. you have some guyish features but so do all girls, so you look pretty feminine to me. the wig looks very pretty but in some photos you can see it's a wig , which is not a problem for taking selfies because you can make it look real in photos, but in real life it will make people look back. over all,I think I would have thought you are female if I saw you on the street
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My turn ;) . do I pass as female in my profile pic?
you sure look like a woman to me Melanie
all you girls looking nice and fem you should all be proud women
Quote from: melanie maritz on February 20, 2015, 02:27:52 AM
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My turn ;) . do I pass as female in my profile pic?
If you drove through my McDonald's, I'd let my Kitchen buddy know there's a honey at the window.
I certainly feel you do. The pic looks great.
Mariah
Quote from: melanie maritz on February 20, 2015, 02:27:52 AM
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My turn ;) . do I pass as female in my profile pic?
awww thank you guys :) ~hug~. lol Tripdistrans, I've never thought of myself as a honey before :D
You can consider yourself a honey any day, :)
Quote from: melanie maritz on February 20, 2015, 02:27:52 AM
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My turn ;) . do I pass as female in my profile pic?
your Stunning!
Yes you pass
Quote from: melanie maritz on February 20, 2015, 02:22:40 AM
To me you pass already. you have some guyish features but so do all girls, so you look pretty feminine to me. the wig looks very pretty but in some photos you can see it's a wig , which is not a problem for taking selfies because you can make it look real in photos, but in real life it will make people look back. over all,I think I would have thought you are female if I saw you on the street
Thank you so much! What are the male features you can see?.. Yeah, this is me all without treatmeant.. I just had the wig because I wanted to see how I'd look in long hair. I'm saving mine now so I could go to a proffesinonall and get some extensions later on. I'm out for all my friends but I'm not in public yet.. I want the hormones to work some more and my hair to grow out before that!
your jaw and chin, but only a little bit, it's nothing major. and your forehead is a bit male looking, but really not that much. there are women who look more like a guy than you do. what I'm trying to say is, you look female to me, even if you have a small amount of guyish features, you're beautiful
Caught myself in the mirror before:
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Nearly 17 months HRT. Not so bad from a distance.
Full time as soon as facial hair is dealt with enough and I'm at least somewhat confident in my voice, I think.
that's a pretty picture Belfast girl. you totally pass in that picture
I'm at 3 1/2 months HRT.
Still a ways to go before full time, but I don't think I'm doing too bad for 3 1/2 months. Not really sure though.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated :)
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I think you're doing great! I'm coming up on 3 months myself.
Heey um. What do you think of... my body structure? I was in my male underwear btw, so probably nsfw (or slightly disturbing) ::)
imgur.com/a/lBB6t (http://imgur.com/a/lBB6t)
I censored most of the background and my face. Just paranoid :-/
Camera placed 2-3 metres away, at groin level.
Misgendering is Prohibited
Beautiful, more than pass. You're a babe.
Quote from: Alyssa Rae on February 21, 2015, 10:02:36 AM
I'm at 3 1/2 months HRT.
Still a ways to go before full time, but I don't think I'm doing too bad for 3 1/2 months. Not really sure though.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated :)
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Quote from: just ices on February 21, 2015, 12:37:52 PM
Heey um. What do you fellas think of... my body structure?
I find it attractive, and I'm straight, so that's not a good thing considering you posted this in MtF section.
It is important to understand that this (shoulder-hip ratio) would get improved with HRT to much more feminine apperance and ratio. If that alone wouldn't be enough for you to feel comfortable, there are surgical options which would resolve the problem. So don't worry much about your body structure, its not a deciding factor to anyones chances for passing in the future.
Quote from: carmenkate on February 21, 2015, 12:42:59 PM
Beautiful, more than pass. You're a babe.
Wow! Thanks! You really think so?
Quote from: ImagineKate on February 21, 2015, 11:40:16 AM
I think you're doing great! I'm coming up on 3 months myself.
Thank you! You're doing awesome yourself girl ;)
Quote from: ImagineKate on February 19, 2015, 03:04:57 PM
Wow, you look like a cis sister... If I passed you in the street I would not know. And I truly mean that.
Thanks, Kate! I have my first session with a therapist on Monday. Hopefully I can start Hrt soon. By soon I mean Tuesday lol.
Quote from: Seemenow on February 21, 2015, 08:46:23 PM
Thanks, Kate! I have my first session with a therapist on Monday. Hopefully I can start Hrt soon. By soon I mean Tuesday lol.
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Awesome, good luck!
A couple of photos at 15 and 16 months respectively. How am I doing?
Please do not direct link to photos if replying, this is to stop search engine image caching.
Thanks.
Password is : letmein
Male mode at the office. I'm still not out yet.
http://s36.photobucket.com/user/iam_leila/library/image_1 (http://s36.photobucket.com/user/iam_leila/library/image_1)
No make up, because I'm too lazy LOL.
http://s36.photobucket.com/user/iam_leila/library/image_2 (http://s36.photobucket.com/user/iam_leila/library/image_2)
Hai Leila,
It's password protected :)
April
Quote from: Leila on February 22, 2015, 08:36:46 AM
A couple of photos at 15 and 16 months respectively. How am I doing?
Please do not direct link to photos if replying, this is to stop search engine image caching.
Thanks.
Password is : letmein
Male mode at the office. I'm still not out yet.
http://s36.photobucket.com/user/iam_leila/library/image_1 (http://s36.photobucket.com/user/iam_leila/library/image_1)
No make up, because I'm too lazy LOL.
http://s36.photobucket.com/user/iam_leila/library/image_2 (http://s36.photobucket.com/user/iam_leila/library/image_2)
Nevermind DUH! lol
Quote from: carmenkate on February 22, 2015, 08:39:29 AM
Hai Leila,
It's password protected :)
April
Okay first of all - WOW
You look like one of my cis female co-worker. You are pretty Leila. Does your SO get insecure of you? LOL just joking.
It truly inspires me and gives me hope that I can reach that level of change that you are now enjoying.
Overall, a total hawt babe. 110% pass
April
Quote from: Leila on February 22, 2015, 08:36:46 AM
A couple of photos at 15 and 16 months respectively. How am I doing?
Please do not direct link to photos if replying, this is to stop search engine image caching.
Thanks.
Password is : letmein
Male mode at the office. I'm still not out yet.
http://s36.photobucket.com/user/iam_leila/library/image_1 (http://s36.photobucket.com/user/iam_leila/library/image_1)
No make up, because I'm too lazy LOL.
http://s36.photobucket.com/user/iam_leila/library/image_2 (http://s36.photobucket.com/user/iam_leila/library/image_2)
Quote from: carmenkate on February 22, 2015, 08:45:33 AM
Okay first of all - WOW
You look like one of my cis female co-worker. You are pretty Leila. Does your SO get insecure of you? LOL just joking.
It truly inspires me and gives me hope that I can reach that level of change that you are now enjoying.
Overall, a total hawt babe. 110% pass
April
Aww thanks April. :)
My SO does say I spend too much time in front of the mirror. LOL
Give it time hon and let the HRT work its magic. Your latest avatar already says to me you aren't far behind yourself.
No makeup or hrt, just me and my first 100% clean shave in 2 years. Whatcha thing? Never thought I was much of a looker :-\
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Quote from: YoungZep on February 22, 2015, 03:02:10 PM
No makeup or hrt, just me and my first 100% clean shave in 2 years. Whatcha thing? Never thought I was much of a looker :-\
I think you could pass really well, you have soft features and your eyebrows already look thin, and theres not much of a brow ridge that i can see
ya look good! ;D
Quote from: sonson on February 22, 2015, 03:15:51 PM
I think you could pass really well, you have soft features and your eyebrows already look thin, and theres not much of a brow ridge that i can see
ya look good! ;D
Aw thanks, feels weird not having a stash ATM but I always looked a lot younger. Im thinking of some makeup, never had any b4 so no idea on how I would look, or how to put on makeup period. What you don't see is I'm still abit bulky since I used to lift a lot. Looking to reduce my arms and shoulders.
18 mos HRT (7mos herbals) .. FT 4 1/2 mos (since Oct 10th).. 6 laser sessions down, prob 2 more then switch to electrolysis.. still lost of work.. my profile pic is today.. my hair.. real hair.. I'm still not passing.. without the wig, I could not pass in a dark room..
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looking GOOD Psuls C :)
Paula you look great! I still don't see why you don't pass with your real hair vs the wig.
I've always followed your posts and you've made such g ood progress. I am still stuck in the laser phase, and I probably will be for awhile because I have so much :( I don't know what is wrong with me because I have such a girl body but so much face hair.
I just had my 5th treatment and still have a lot of shadow on the chin and upper lip- the dysphoria is absolutely depressing. On the plus side, my hair is getting long and it looks like it will work well once it gets longer. Haven't gotten to start HRT yet, but when I do i'll probably go low dose and just block the T to help get rid of the hair.
This is me pre anything I'll be starting hrt in 6 days..
I need to do something with my eyebrows but I can't since I'm still guy mode at work
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9 months hrt. Voice is okay if i'm sober. I want a nose job btw.
What do you think (yes thats me)
http://m.imgur.com/bwdtKLF,VlNFE6t (don't know how attach fotos in a post directly) *totally clischee blond* sry o:
You're pretty. Just give HRT sometime, it should make more changes in your face i think :)
xo
April
Quote from: youngpunky on February 24, 2015, 10:35:18 PM
9 months hrt. Voice is okay if i'm sober. I want a nose job btw.
What do you think (yes thats me)
http://m.imgur.com/bwdtKLF,VlNFE6t (don't know how attach fotos in a post directly) *totally clischee blond* sry o:
Quote from: YoungZep on February 22, 2015, 03:02:10 PM
No makeup or hrt, just me and my first 100% clean shave in 2 years. Whatcha thing? Never thought I was much of a looker :-\
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You have amazing jawline, I could kill for it, seriously. Your nose looks OK too and it will look thinner on HRT due to changes of skin texture and areas around bone. I cant see Your brow from this angle and Your hair gets in the way, but it does not appear that You have had that much of androgen impact during Your puberty! HRT will be amazing on You.
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on February 25, 2015, 02:53:28 PM
You have amazing jawline, I could kill for it, seriously. Your nose looks OK too and it will look thinner on HRT due to changes of skin texture and areas around bone. I cant see Your brow from this angle and Your hair gets in the way, but it does not appear that You have had that much of androgen impact during Your puberty! HRT will be amazing on You.
OMG you made my day. I 'm not sure when, if I will at all, take hormones but its good to hear I have potential :) I have been mistake for a girl from behind, but I do live in a area where there are alot of, and I don't want to be offensive at all so correct me on the right term, butch type ladies and I guess I look like one :P
Alright, I feel I can now confidently post these now.
So Yesterday 2/24/15 I went out in "girl mode" as myself for the first time, primarily to do errands, get blood drawn, hang out at the mall and all that fun stuff.
Hung with a girlfriend who is also trans and before I left I took notice of my body in the bathroom of the Gay and Lesbian Center in L.A. and for the first time ever, I could see a female body there.
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My body has really given me confidence to go forth and do this. I really feel like a lady now despite the mental blocks I'm trying to fight.
I naturally was afraid of what people were going to think of me and I DID get stares on all the buses I took and I took a lot of them.
But here is where the crazy stuff happened: instead of being scared and worried about what they thought, when they stared, I just got PISSED! I had like no worries or fear at all. I'm like "CAN I HELP YOU!?!" I was worried so much of the fear, but what actually happened was that I felt none of that at all, just being annoyed and pissed at these freaking people looking.
So I went to the mall afterward with my friend and I went to the Ladies bathroom and had a surprisingly "normal" time passing. My face needs work, but my body is REALLY saving my ass in passing more. You saw the picture.
A lot of people were very nice and accepting when I went to a few stores. It really shows the acceptance within the age gap of people. The older people were more prone to staring than the ones my age and younger but instead of stares, they smiled. :D
That was a very great experience there.
Also got my eyebrows trimmed. That... Was an experience.
Look at these pictures!
But yeah, first "official day" you can say and so far so good.
This is the current look of myself with the new eyebrows and wanted to ask overall how my face looks.
I know I feel I pass in body, but my face has always bothered me for years. Thanks ladies:
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- Trini
Keep it going Trini... You go girl ...dont take crap from anyone. Your body has slowly molded into a nice figure you can be proud of.
My very first wig came today. I'm so excited, I decided to bite the bullet and post a picture of myself here.
Disclaimer! I'm wearing NO makeup, but I did just shave and moisturize. And I'm quite aware of the fact that I have 100+lbs to lose (18 since Jan 10!). So no fat jokes! [emoji13] And I'm wearing my regular male glasses because I liked the picture better with glasses.
So here goes...
http://imgur.com/eE80rL1 (http://imgur.com/eE80rL1)
http://imgur.com/a4Ww3Nc (http://imgur.com/a4Ww3Nc)
Do I have potential? Be kind! [emoji5]
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Just remembered there's ... actually a thread for this very thing. While I elaborate more on it in my post further down the page, I have a feeling I'll get a quicker response here.
What do you think?
Hi Amy, I don't think you pass right now, just give the Hormones more time to do their work, and then reassess, and see where you are in another year. Your lower face may feminize enough, but you do have a cleft chin, which is something that a lot of women do not have. And your forehead will not change from HRT, so you may want to consider FFS in the future.
So here is my starting point, on Monday I begin HRT. This is with my real hair, light mascara, light eye shadow, lip gloss and a little concealer w/ powder to try to hide a couple skin blemishes. I know I've got to get my eye brows thined and shaped but I have to wait a couple months to get that done.
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So is there hope that once I've been on HRT I will be able to pass? I'm pretty sure I am going to need to get my hairline lowered. Any other obvious things that will need to be done?
I'm 16 years old and pre-everything.. ignore the picture of Jesus lol, do I pass?
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I applaud each and everyone of you who post a pic and asking for an opinion. It takes a lot of confidence to ask a stranger what they think.
Bravo!
<-- My avatar is the newest pic. I was wearing that outfit when Family was visiting me last weekend. :)
Still Pre-everything thou.
Gimme my Hormones! ;)
Quote from: Amber74 on February 24, 2015, 07:51:03 PM
This is me pre anything I'll be starting hrt in 6 days..
I need to do something with my eyebrows but I can't since I'm still guy mode at work
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You already look cis to me. With HRT, you'll pass 110%!
Quote from: Paula Christine on February 23, 2015, 12:30:46 AM
18 mos HRT (7mos herbals) .. FT 4 1/2 mos (since Oct 10th).. 6 laser sessions down, prob 2 more then switch to electrolysis.. still lost of work.. my profile pic is today.. my hair.. real hair.. I'm still not passing.. without the wig, I could not pass in a dark room..
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You look 85% cis to me. Honestly I think if you find a different wig that suits your face better, you'll pass. With more time on HRT, you'll pass even more!
Quote from: cody7ccw on February 27, 2015, 09:45:00 AM
I'm 16 years old and pre-everything.. ignore the picture of Jesus lol, do I pass?
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95%. HRT will make it even better.
I start HRT in about a week and half. Just wanted to get a opinion on my look and passability. I've spent a lot of time on my voice, so I'm pretty confident on that. But I'm worried about my face right now, and I'm still growing out my hair. Can i pull off the short haircut at this point?? need honest opinions.
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I was playing around with a makeup app on my phone, watcha think?
My hair always looks horrible, sorry... hoping growing it out will make it look better!
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Quote from: michelle82 on February 28, 2015, 04:30:10 PM
I start HRT in about a week and half. Just wanted to get a opinion on my look and passability. I've spent a lot of time on my voice, so I'm pretty confident on that. But I'm worried about my face right now, and I'm still growing out my hair. Can i pull off the short haircut at this point?? need honest opinions.
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Holy crap, you're adorable. I can't believe you are pre-HRT.
You all look so good...im not sure I will ever pass...i did a virtual makeup app, didnt look good at all :-\
Quote from: michelle82 on February 28, 2015, 04:30:10 PM
I start HRT in about a week and half. Just wanted to get a opinion on my look and passability. I've spent a lot of time on my voice, so I'm pretty confident on that. But I'm worried about my face right now, and I'm still growing out my hair. Can i pull off the short haircut at this point?? need honest opinions.
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You look a lot like my sister, except with better fashion sense!
Quote from: YoungZep on February 28, 2015, 05:08:16 PM
I was playing around with a makeup app on my phone, watcha think?
My hair always looks horrible, sorry... hoping growing it out will make it look better!
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I know makeup can be expensive but it can be a worthy investment. The hardest part (for me at least) is finding the right base to match skin color. I always took my make-up savvy friends when shopping for it. I used to get mine from places like CVS, Wal-greens or Wal-Mart. Malls seem to be the most expensive places to buy make up from.
I think you'll look pretty cute and more feminine with longer hair.
Quote from: michelle82 on February 28, 2015, 04:30:10 PM
I start HRT in about a week and half. Just wanted to get a opinion on my look and passability. I've spent a lot of time on my voice, so I'm pretty confident on that. But I'm worried about my face right now, and I'm still growing out my hair. Can i pull off the short haircut at this point?? need honest opinions.
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Hun, you are going to be a stunner!!!! love the beautiful curly hair and the scarf is a wonderful choice for a scarf. also your face has or female features then male features.
I don't think you need to grow out your hair that much longer because a smallish fro really accents ur face well imo. just keep it clean and learn what products to use and your good. Also congrats to being almost there!
Still working on getting HRT started. I've had a few laser sessions. This is no makeup, no HRT, just some woman's jeans and shirt.
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Deinewelt,
You already have a great starting point, hormones will round out the rest, you will be a very passable beutiful girl. ;).. Have confidence to show the beutiful inside will blossom outside.
Quote from: stephee72 on March 01, 2015, 04:43:07 PM
Deinewelt,
You already have a great starting point, hormones will round out the rest, you will be a very passable beutiful girl. ;).. Have confidence to show the beutiful inside will blossom outside.
Thank you hun! Nice toes btw. Oh and I think that I may take the name Emma.
Emma,
I like that it may suit you. My feet are the only things that may pass, truthfully though they were just cute feet so I used them, Not sure anyone could handle pic of real me right now, but Im workin on it. And just for the record I can spell beautiful, I just couldnt seem to then...lol.. Cant wait to see you blossom before us Emma, keep true to yourself and you will do great.
no makeup - https://www.dropbox.com/s/moh0hhkqj607xdc/1797392_1429140997328436_142228790_n%20-%20Copy.jpg?dl=0
makeup - https://www.dropbox.com/s/npq6877h8fnkxdb/IMG_20121008_225027.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yf8fzv298j4dtq7/994973_1386036344972235_1685920494_n%20-%20Copy.jpg?dl=0
Ive been full time since 13. But I just recently began HRT this year...
Quote from: cody7ccw on February 27, 2015, 09:45:00 AM
I'm 16 years old and pre-everything.. ignore the picture of Jesus lol, do I pass?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B51vDfmIQAAO4pt.jpg:large)
GOD I LOVE YOUR EYEBROWS!!! VERY PRETTY :)
Quote from: serenityfaith on March 01, 2015, 11:38:10 PM
no makeup - https://www.dropbox.com/s/moh0hhkqj607xdc/1797392_1429140997328436_142228790_n%20-%20Copy.jpg?dl=0
makeup - https://www.dropbox.com/s/npq6877h8fnkxdb/IMG_20121008_225027.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yf8fzv298j4dtq7/994973_1386036344972235_1685920494_n%20-%20Copy.jpg?dl=0
Ive been full time since 13. But I just recently began HRT this year...
you are so pretty especially for being 1 month on hormones!
For you it's not a matter of passing but being gorgeous. You're going to have an awesome transformation.
Quote from: serenityfaith on March 01, 2015, 11:38:10 PM
no makeup - https://www.dropbox.com/s/moh0hhkqj607xdc/1797392_1429140997328436_142228790_n%20-%20Copy.jpg?dl=0
makeup - https://www.dropbox.com/s/npq6877h8fnkxdb/IMG_20121008_225027.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yf8fzv298j4dtq7/994973_1386036344972235_1685920494_n%20-%20Copy.jpg?dl=0
Ive been full time since 13. But I just recently began HRT this year...
Quote from: amber roskamp on March 02, 2015, 06:44:06 AM
you are so pretty especially for being 1 month on hormones!
Thank you Amber! I was truly blessed.. But ppl still figure out that im trans, they say its something in my face... my chin perhaps?
Quote from: antonia on March 02, 2015, 08:35:34 AM
For you it's not a matter of passing but being gorgeous. You're going to have an awesome transformation.
Thank you!!!! Youre pretty smokin yourself antonia! I'm sooo friggin excited to see what the end result will be! Everytime I put on my makeup my heart flutters already.. I really wonder if the doc would even be willing to change anything? Is there anything that you would say isn't passing about my looks? I think my chin is a little protruding..
Quote from: serenityfaith on March 02, 2015, 11:36:04 AM
I really wonder if the doc would even be willing to change anything? Is there anything that you would say isn't passing about my looks? I think my chin is a little protruding..
The most important differences between feminine and masculine facial apperance is in the upper face area, mainly in the connection that happen from forehead down to the cheekbones, and by far the most important area are the orbital rims, where is the difference in eye expression, and with that the expression of face as a whole. I can't say much about that in relation to pictures you posted, as they are not clear enough in the sense of your facial features. With white background, frontal photo, both 45°angles, both side profiles, tied back hair and without make-up, a fair observation is possible. It doesn't seem like your chin would be anyhow problematic, HRT will make it appear rounder and softer. I'm sorry you weren't able to start HRT at 13 along with living full-time.
Quote from: mmmmm on March 02, 2015, 12:03:48 PM
The most important differences between feminine and masculine facial apperance is in the upper face area, mainly in the connection that happen from forehead down to the cheekbones, and by far the most important area are the orbital rims, where is the difference in eye expression, and with that the expression of face as a whole. I can't say much about that in relation to pictures you posted, as they are not clear enough in the sense of your facial features. With white background, frontal photo, both 45°angles, both side profiles, tied back hair and without make-up, a fair observation is possible. It doesn't seem like your chin would be anyhow problematic, HRT will make it appear rounder and softer. I'm sorry you weren't able to start HRT at 13 along with living full-time.
Youve given me something to do today!! thanks :) lol Ill be sure to post them up so yall can evaluate! who better to judge me then my fellow transians?? (if thats even a term) LOL
And I agree, I first asked to be a girl when I was five, my life wouldve been sooo much better if I had been supported to transition from the start. Story of all our lives right? C'est la vie!!
Honestly I would not change anything, in any case you want to give the hormones at least 1 years just to see what the soft tissue changes do to the overall look.
There are plenty of doctors who will operate on anyone regardless of need, some doctors operate simply out of greed and will always recommend you get everything redone even if it is detrimental, just be careful when getting consults and remember they are selling you things.
- Antonia
Quote from: serenityfaith on March 02, 2015, 01:13:52 PM
Youve given me something to do today!! thanks :) lol Ill be sure to post them up so yall can evaluate! who better to judge me then my fellow transians?? (if thats even a term) LOL
And I agree, I first asked to be a girl when I was five, my life wouldve been sooo much better if I had been supported to transition from the start. Story of all our lives right? C'est la vie!!
Quote from: antonia on March 02, 2015, 01:39:32 PM
Honestly I would not change anything, in any case you want to give the hormones at least 1 years just to see what the soft tissue changes do to the overall look.
There are plenty of doctors who will operate on anyone regardless of need, some doctors operate simply out of greed and will always recommend you get everything redone even if it is detrimental, just be careful when getting consults and remember they are selling you things.
- Antonia
Very true, Great point. Thank you Antonia! I will definitely be sure to tread lightly when it comes to their recommendations!!
serenityfaith, you are simply gorgeous.
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/eduj7dl7vmiwyry/AACStZ1t4mqEcY1fKjU8px9ra
I'm not sure if this will work. I'm not sure how to post images otherwise.
Total pass, and quite a bit of jealousy :)
Quote from: Riven on March 03, 2015, 10:09:29 PM
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/eduj7dl7vmiwyry/AACStZ1t4mqEcY1fKjU8px9ra
I'm not sure if this will work. I'm not sure how to post images otherwise.
Quote from: Kimberley Beauregard on March 03, 2015, 04:48:11 PM
serenityfaith, you are simply gorgeous.
Thank you so much Kimberley!!!!!!! <3
Riven,
Hello either your blind or its not real, of course you pass. Natural born females would like to look as good. Keep it going, be confident.keep smiling. ;D... Stephee
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Quote from: Nikki G on March 04, 2015, 12:56:32 AM
This is probably going to trigger someone, so fair warning; there's a beard. I'm a few weeks away from HRT, no hair removal, and yes it bothers me.
So what do you all think? Could I pass without FFS and without a beard?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/roh4exsjnu3h6xi/WP_20150303_004.jpg?dl=0
You know, you can actually shave a beard... ;D Why don't you take a picture without a beard? What you are asking us is kinda hard we can just make suppositions. Prior to HRT, you should start exercising a close shaving (to get the less hair possible), and practice with make up, maybe grow your hair out or wear fake hair (which can be very inexpensive and you can find really good wigs for 10 dollars that are ok just to look how you would look like with longer hair), it's not a waste of money to buy female things, since you want to transition, you would need those things in the future anyway, especially with make up... Which can be really hard, you might want to start practicing as soon as possible.
Good luck :)
Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 04, 2015, 01:12:59 AM
You know, you can actually shave a beard... ;D Why don't you take a picture without a beard? What you are asking us is kinda hard we can just make suppositions. Prior to HRT, you should start exercising a close shaving (to get the less hair possible), and practice with make up, maybe grow your hair out or wear fake hair (which can be very inexpensive and you can find really good wigs for 10 dollars that are ok just to look how you would look like with longer hair), it's not a waste of money to buy female things, since you want to transition, you would need those things in the future anyway, especially with make up... Which can be really hard, you might want to start practicing as soon as possible.
Good luck :)
I wore shoulder length or longer hair as a teenager for a few years, wore eye liner as well, I can paint my toes better than my girlfriend, and from the neck down I look better in her own dresses/skirts/high heels (her words, though I feel like it was 40% truth, 60% being nice, lol). Shaving the beard is a double edged sword; I don't want to shave it because I'm insecure about my weight and when I do eventually shave it I don't want to see what I perceive to be a man staring back at me.
I want an "overnight" transition and I've got 30 pounds to lose. By the end of this coming summer I'll have hopefully been on HRT for 6 months and I'll have lost at least half of the weight. Finally, I'm definitely growing my hair out. I regret it the second I cut it every. single. time. and always have since I was teenager. Except when I shaved it bald because my father was going through chemo/radiation therapy for lung cancer; that I did because I loved him and didn't want him to feel alone.
I suppose what I'm looking for is someone to objectively look at where they started, where they are, and compare their own "before" to mine. I appreciate the feedback! :)
Quote from: Nikki G on March 04, 2015, 01:27:45 AM
I wore shoulder length or longer hair as a teenager for a few years, wore eye liner as well, I can paint my toes better than my girlfriend, and from the neck down I look better in her own dresses/skirts/high heels (her words, though I feel like it was 40% truth, 60% being nice, lol). Shaving the beard is a double edged sword; I don't want to shave it because I'm insecure about my weight and when I do eventually shave it I don't want to see what I perceive to be a man staring back at me.
I want an "overnight" transition and I've got 30 pounds to lose. By the end of this coming summer I'll have hopefully been on HRT for 6 months and I'll have lost at least half of the weight. Finally, I'm definitely growing my hair out. I regret it the second I cut it every. single. time. and always have since I was teenager. Except when I shaved it bald because my father was going through chemo/radiation therapy for lung cancer; that I did because I loved him and didn't want him to feel alone.
I suppose what I'm looking for is someone to objectively look at where they started, where they are, and compare their own "before" to mine. I appreciate the feedback! :)
That's just not realistic, we are all different. Also, an overnight transition is not realistic neither. Hormones are not magic pills, most changes are not going to be facial wise if you're not a teenager anymore, and even me (I am 18), I will not get much facial changes neither. HRT usually takes a year to see a realistic change and it's usually just boobs maybe some fat, in your fce you might get more feminine cheeks and a softer and more feminine skin. But who knows, it's very individual. How old are you btw? I really don't understand, but don't you perceive a man with facial hair? I mean even the most androgynous person, facial hair are really manly... I really find it hard to believe that you're practicing make up with a beard.
Hi! I just hit four months. I don't know how to do makeup, so forgive me there. Luckily, it was only lipstick and eyeshadow, so I don't think I messed it up too bad. These pics range from the 3 1/2 month mark up until yesterday when I hit four months. Hoping to be able to go full time within the next 3-6 months. Any advice or constructive criticism is appreciated, as well as general input. Oh, as far as age is concerned, I'm 25 years old.
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Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 04, 2015, 01:54:19 AM
That's just not realistic, we are all different. Also, an overnight transition is not realistic neither. Hormones are not magic pills, most changes are not going to be facial wise if you're not a teenager anymore, and even me (I am 18), I will not get much facial changes neither. HRT usually takes a year to see a realistic change and it's usually just boobs maybe some fat, in your fce you might get more feminine cheeks and a softer and more feminine skin. But who knows, it's very individual. How old are you btw? I really don't understand, but don't you perceive a man with facial hair? I mean even the most androgynous person, facial hair are really manly... I really find it hard to believe that you're practicing make up with a beard.
Serena...oh, I like you....finally someone to back me up in that hormones are not magic pils. I feel alone in that I've always believed this. Hormones didn't make me cry more, or make my hands smaller, no hair fell out. Other than a modest B cup, maybe a couple inches on hips and perhaps softer hands (not sure about this as I moisturize a lot more now), hormones were not a biggie in terms of what made me who I am. Now, electrolysis, makeup lesson, personal shopping experience, therapy, trachea shave and GRS - now those had an impact.
Quote from: Nikki G on March 04, 2015, 01:27:45 AM
I want an "overnight" transition and ...
Everybody would prefer that... But sadly there is no such thing as an "overnight" transition. It's a process, and a rather long one... It could be done faster if you have saved $7000-10,000 for electrolysis sessions, and $20-30,000 for FFS ... But that's the only things that I could think of that makes any kind of shortcuts. Laser takes literally like a year of monthly sessions, if you're lucky.. Many need more than just 11-12 sessions. If you decide to wait for the hormones to do their magic and transform the face (in any serious way), you're in for a looooooong wait, because such things doesn't happen in one or two years.
Let me explicitly clarify what I meant with "overnight" so 3 more of you don't go into spontaneous rants that are completely out of context in regards to my original question:
When I say that I would prefer/want an "overnight" transition I mean that I'm willing to wait 6-12 months, or until I feel comfortable (there's the key in all of it) with doing something about the beard. I never once eluded to or outright stated that I thought or believed estradiol to be a "magic pill".
I'm going to go ahead and remove the link as I really do not feel argumentative today. The question was simple; you answer it with your opinions all of the time, but yet I get "supposition" from an 18 year old. I'm out. *mic drop*
Honestly, it's impossible to take it seriously when someone asks "could I pass" with a beard photo...
Answer: most people can "pass" eventually, at least to some level. Will you be able to pass without FFS? You will find an answer about that after you'll be on hormones for a year or two, and live at least part-time if not full-time in the desired gender.
Eh, I already posted this picture in another thread.... But as it's the worse I can honestly get, and today marks the 7 month mark... I'm curious (Truth please :P Whilst lies may be flattering, I don't like them ^^ ) Last time I asked for opinions and didn't get much due to the fact that I didn't have my head straight towards the camera etc... So, yep.. Here's me at my worse and facing the camera directly.... Not with my eyes, but with my mind... Maybe... ... Please don't be gentle I want and need criticism :) And a real yes or no to passing.
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Quote from: bluebirdx88 on March 04, 2015, 02:29:26 PM
Eh, I already posted this picture in another thread.... But as it's the worse I can honestly get, and today marks the 7 month mark... I'm curious (Truth please :P Whilst lies may be flattering, I don't like them ^^ ) Last time I asked for opinions and didn't get much due to the fact that I didn't have my head straight towards the camera etc... So, yep.. Here's me at my worse and facing the camera directly.... Not with my eyes, but with my mind... Maybe... ... Please don't be gentle I want and need criticism :) And a real yes or no to passing.
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I think you have an absolutely beautiful face. The only issue I see is your hair is really fine. But do I think you pass based on what you showed? Yes I do.
Quote from: amber roskamp on March 04, 2015, 04:42:47 PM
I think you have an absolutely beautiful face. The only issue I see is your hair is really fine. But do I think you pass based on what you showed? Yes I do.
amber, I like your new Avatar. You are looking good Girl! :D
Quote from: Nikki G on March 04, 2015, 10:26:38 AM
Let me explicitly clarify what I meant with "overnight" so 3 more of you don't go into spontaneous rants that are completely out of context in regards to my original question:
When I say that I would prefer/want an "overnight" transition I mean that I'm willing to wait 6-12 months, or until I feel comfortable (there's the key in all of it) with doing something about the beard. I never once eluded to or outright stated that I thought or believed estradiol to be a "magic pill".
I'm going to go ahead and remove the link as I really do not feel argumentative today. The question was simple; you answer it with your opinions all of the time, but yet I get "supposition" from an 18 year old. I'm out. *mic drop*
Well you're trying to say that my opinion is not good just because of my age, but it's clear that I've been doing this for more than you anyway, and you are just asking for someone to imagine how you would look more feminine, which is just making suppositions, because we don't know, but you could shave, wear make up, and/or longer hair, to try yourself, and then ask if you need ffs or not, which is a personal thing, Some people might still want ffs even if they pass already. I can not tell that you pass if you're not making any effort to look feminine. I am telling you what you can do to pass.
I have to agree with Muffintop, you can add those things to make a chance rather than hrt: electrolysis, makeup lesson, personal shopping experience, therapy, trachea shave and GRS.
Now if you don't have much money, there are places where to get free clothes for trans people donated, or you can go to goodwill or other thrift shops I'm not familiar with those but you can always try, because clothes helps a lot with making your body looking for feminine, and again if you feel comfortable with the beard, that's you I guess (everyone has a different dysphoria if some), but I would suggest to start laser or electrolysis as soon as possible, and shaving because you would need that to pass. For make up, eyeliner will not make the cut, you can try looking up make up tutorials on youtube, and you should really try your best with make up, I've been using make up for a while and I'm not perfect at it, and I'm pretty basic at what I use. Good luck on your transition
Quote from: amber roskamp on March 04, 2015, 04:42:47 PM
I think you have an absolutely beautiful face. The only issue I see is your hair is really fine. But do I think you pass based on what you showed? Yes I do.
Thank you :) Honestly having the sun directly behind me really made my hair look terribly worse than it is, especially considering I have a strange mix of blonde and chocolate hair... I'm not really that lacking in volume except for my bangs.... Honestly I ruined it by dying twice in a row a month or two ago plus straightening it every other day u.u So yeah.... Learn from my mistakes peeps, lol
PS: See? .... Excuse random face / moment picture
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs8.postimg.org%2F64h8r07vl%2F20150205_220924.jpg&hash=e0bd074e2532487ad17c4ec31270afdc45ba76ee) (http://postimg.org/image/64h8r07vl/)
However when straightened I do lose a LOT of volume... But it reaches my chest hehe...
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Quote from: bluebirdx88 on March 04, 2015, 02:29:26 PM
Eh, I already posted this picture in another thread.... But as it's the worse I can honestly get, and today marks the 7 month mark... I'm curious (Truth please :P Whilst lies may be flattering, I don't like them ^^ ) Last time I asked for opinions and didn't get much due to the fact that I didn't have my head straight towards the camera etc... So, yep.. Here's me at my worse and facing the camera directly.... Not with my eyes, but with my mind... Maybe... ... Please don't be gentle
You pass. You pass very well. .
Congrats
Hugs
Jen
Quote from: bluebirdx88 on March 04, 2015, 11:02:38 PM
PS: See? .... Excuse random face / moment picture
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs8.postimg.org%2F64h8r07vl%2F20150205_220924.jpg&hash=e0bd074e2532487ad17c4ec31270afdc45ba76ee) (http://postimg.org/image/64h8r07vl/)
However when straightened I do lose a LOT of volume... But it reaches my chest hehe...
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Very cute!
Pass
Love your eyes.
Bluebird,
Honest opinion, no flattery...from the pictures you posted...You pass! Seriously, with the pony tails especially, you look soft, angled in the face, gorgeous eyes, if you dress right and dont have a super low voice, I really dont believe anybody would know. Good news is its not even been a year yet, you will continue to get more and more fem. The future looks great. Thats honest, so take it as that and believe in yourself. I look forward to seeing you in the future. Be proud.
Love Stephee
Alyssa rae,
You say your about 4 months now, in the pictures you look good. The first picture I assume is the oldest, I can see some features of man, but if I wasnt told, I doubt I would know a thing. Thats really good for 4 months, you will look like a stunner before to long, keep workin with the make up, Lord knows I suck at it, You are well on your way. Your last picture is really good. Keep it up. You should be right on time to go fulltime as you want to.
Stephee
Quote from: bluebirdx88 on March 04, 2015, 02:29:26 PM
Eh, I already posted this picture in another thread.... But as it's the worse I can honestly get, and today marks the 7 month mark... I'm curious (Truth please :P Whilst lies may be flattering, I don't like them ^^ ) Last time I asked for opinions and didn't get much due to the fact that I didn't have my head straight towards the camera etc... So, yep.. Here's me at my worse and facing the camera directly.... Not with my eyes, but with my mind... Maybe... ... Please don't be gentle I want and need criticism :) And a real yes or no to passing.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs30.postimg.org%2F3sd8ozf7x%2Ftmp_27194_20150304_144405603522994.jpg&hash=c06f2284c4ed370524a8cbb4f55441714e140be2) (http://postimg.org/image/3sd8ozf7x/)
I think your face passes from this front angle. It also looks like you have a small frame and narrow shoulders from what is visible in the pic.
Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 04, 2015, 01:54:19 AM
That's just not realistic, we are all different. Also, an overnight transition is not realistic neither.
I kind of get where Nikki G is coming from though. Start the HRT and then one day just switch... may or may not work and I don't know if any therapist would even recommend it. I would recommend against delaying hair removal though, given what a pain in the neck (the pain is much lower actually) it is.
QuoteHormones are not magic pills, most changes are not going to be facial wise if you're not a teenager anymore, and even me (I am 18), I will not get much facial changes neither. HRT usually takes a year to see a realistic change and it's usually just boobs maybe some fat, in your fce you might get more feminine cheeks and a softer and more feminine skin.
Totally, totally disagree. I am twice your age and I have been on doctor supervised HRT a little over 3 months, at a fairly moderate dosage too with spiro and E. My E regularly measures in the 300s to 400s to give you an idea.
I look totally different from 3 months ago, face wise.
On the VirtualFFS website it was also mentioned that hormones can do a lot. Sure, they are not magic pills but they can make some drastic changes. It boils down to the HRT regimen and genetics.
I haven't started my transition yet but I'm super excited for it. The only thing I'm worried about is what my face will look like when it starts to change.
@JLT1: Thank you very much :) *hugs back*
@Jessie Ann: Hehe, thank you :)
@stephee72: Well, honestly even if it isn't flattery, I am flattered, thank you :D Admittedly, my voice is and has usually been my main issue... Hopefully I'll be given a speech therapist eventually... As for clothes... I've been fulltime for 5 years, even before HRT and I still never know what to wear >.< haha... But I think I kind of have it covered :) And yup, you're right about the changes.... Only after the 6 month mark have changes really started to become obvious... Maybe it's coz it's when I started eating more.. I don't know hehe, looking forward to the future...
@michelle82: Thanks! Well, honestly I don't find it to be small... I mean I sometimes have issues getting into certain dresses because of the chest area being way too tight... I think the clothes you wear make a big difference in how that area comes out, visibly to be honest....
Quote from: MattyL19 on March 05, 2015, 03:14:56 PM
I haven't started my transition yet but I'm super excited for it. The only thing I'm worried about is what my face will look like when it starts to change.
If you really want to, you can have the virtualFFS person do a simulation. It won't be 100% but I heard it is good.
I'm still doing it either way so I want to be surprised I guess (still nervous though hahaha). My face isn't too masculine in my opinion and I'm only 19, so I'm hoping for the best!
I was so inspired to beat my face with makeup this morning and had to take a selfie :D By the way, the pics on this thread blows me away - such beautiful women xoxo
April
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGM6LQb0.jpg&hash=80f6810838cb042621cfdbaca16a3a2860e457df)
Quote from: carmenkate on March 05, 2015, 10:54:04 PM
I was so inspired to beat my face with makeup this morning and had to take a selfie :D By the way, the pics on this thread blows me away - such beautiful women xoxo
April
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGM6LQb0.jpg&hash=80f6810838cb042621cfdbaca16a3a2860e457df)
As should this one! Pass without a doubt.
Kate!!!!
You hottie :) thanks babe.
Hugs! You got me inspired to put one some makeup!
I was so conscious on the subway this morning. However, I looked around and everyone was sleeping LOL
So full face make-up at 8 am works xoxo ::)
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 05, 2015, 10:57:44 PM
As should this one! Pass without a doubt.
Just out of bed. no makeup.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FIMG_20150305_014507_zpsc9w9gadm.jpg&hash=0213a0cf15ea572508991a57575a4496251d1990) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/IMG_20150305_014507_zpsc9w9gadm.jpg.html)
After getting dolled up.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FIMG_20150305_145150_zpsvmhxv5wm.jpg&hash=61993016f58b2f82c63fbce292f2a48a75ad6ac7) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/IMG_20150305_145150_zpsvmhxv5wm.jpg.html)
So I got done taking pictures and feel like they just don't do me much justice. In the mirror I think I looked so cute.. but the pictures just look... idk. weird. Anyways. I went around asking everyone in my family what they thought. No one said I failed. In fact the worst that was even said was "I'm just not used to it.. so it's hard to say if you would pass or not". Others said I passed.
So.. Do I pass? I'm pre HRT. Just playing with makeup and having a good time. I keep looking in the mirror thinking I have a pretty good chance at passing. But I wanna know what you all think. Brutality is welcome. Don't sugar coat it. I can take it :D
Rotika, you pass pretty darned well if you asked me.
Here are a few of mine.
This would be like me in the store checking my shopping list on my phone or posting on Susan's:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1188.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz403%2Frjairam%2F1635E4A8-A59A-4552-9189-F11D8CB32EBC_zps0ryb17vm.jpg&hash=7346b63ba4cc8d8e29a4502b2161c9d8cc2396d2) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/user/rjairam/media/1635E4A8-A59A-4552-9189-F11D8CB32EBC_zps0ryb17vm.jpg.html)
My current glasses. I don't know if I like them all that much but a couple of people have said they are fine. I can get contacts on my insurance plan but I would still need a pair.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1188.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz403%2Frjairam%2FE0960AC1-6D5D-4EAC-8AFF-A0F99F46EFA6_zpsvzhv9vbt.jpg&hash=28574796c066b9c50b0624f973aa4735fabb880f) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/user/rjairam/media/E0960AC1-6D5D-4EAC-8AFF-A0F99F46EFA6_zpsvzhv9vbt.jpg.html)
What do you all think?
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 06, 2015, 04:35:35 AM
Here are a few of mine.
This would be like me in the store checking my shopping list on my phone or posting on Susan's:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1188.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz403%2Frjairam%2F1635E4A8-A59A-4552-9189-F11D8CB32EBC_zps0ryb17vm.jpg&hash=7346b63ba4cc8d8e29a4502b2161c9d8cc2396d2) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/user/rjairam/media/1635E4A8-A59A-4552-9189-F11D8CB32EBC_zps0ryb17vm.jpg.html)
My current glasses. I don't know if I like them all that much but a couple of people have said they are fine. I can get contacts on my insurance plan but I would still need a pair.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1188.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz403%2Frjairam%2FE0960AC1-6D5D-4EAC-8AFF-A0F99F46EFA6_zpsvzhv9vbt.jpg&hash=28574796c066b9c50b0624f973aa4735fabb880f) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/user/rjairam/media/E0960AC1-6D5D-4EAC-8AFF-A0F99F46EFA6_zpsvzhv9vbt.jpg.html)
What do you all think?
More than a pass :-) xo
Hugs
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Quote from: carmenkate on March 05, 2015, 10:54:04 PM
I was so inspired to beat my face with makeup this morning and had to take a selfie :D By the way, the pics on this thread blows me away - such beautiful women xoxo
April
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGM6LQb0.jpg&hash=80f6810838cb042621cfdbaca16a3a2860e457df)
You look so lovely!! :)
Quote from: Rotika on March 06, 2015, 03:41:45 AM
Just out of bed. no makeup.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FIMG_20150305_014507_zpsc9w9gadm.jpg&hash=0213a0cf15ea572508991a57575a4496251d1990) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/IMG_20150305_014507_zpsc9w9gadm.jpg.html)
After getting dolled up.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FIMG_20150305_145150_zpsvmhxv5wm.jpg&hash=61993016f58b2f82c63fbce292f2a48a75ad6ac7) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/IMG_20150305_145150_zpsvmhxv5wm.jpg.html)
So I got done taking pictures and feel like they just don't do me much justice. In the mirror I think I looked so cute.. but the pictures just look... idk. weird. Anyways. I went around asking everyone in my family what they thought. No one said I failed. In fact the worst that was even said was "I'm just not used to it.. so it's hard to say if you would pass or not". Others said I passed.
So.. Do I pass? I'm pre HRT. Just playing with makeup and having a good time. I keep looking in the mirror thinking I have a pretty good chance at passing. But I wanna know what you all think. Brutality is welcome. Don't sugar coat it. I can take it :D
After getting dolled you look good! youre cute when you first get up lol PASS! :)
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 06, 2015, 04:35:35 AM
Here are a few of mine.
This would be like me in the store checking my shopping list on my phone or posting on Susan's:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1188.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz403%2Frjairam%2F1635E4A8-A59A-4552-9189-F11D8CB32EBC_zps0ryb17vm.jpg&hash=7346b63ba4cc8d8e29a4502b2161c9d8cc2396d2) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/user/rjairam/media/1635E4A8-A59A-4552-9189-F11D8CB32EBC_zps0ryb17vm.jpg.html)
My current glasses. I don't know if I like them all that much but a couple of people have said they are fine. I can get contacts on my insurance plan but I would still need a pair.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1188.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz403%2Frjairam%2FE0960AC1-6D5D-4EAC-8AFF-A0F99F46EFA6_zpsvzhv9vbt.jpg&hash=28574796c066b9c50b0624f973aa4735fabb880f) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/user/rjairam/media/E0960AC1-6D5D-4EAC-8AFF-A0F99F46EFA6_zpsvzhv9vbt.jpg.html)
What do you all think?
Cute!!! I like that floral dress too! I may need glasses here soon, gotta wear those before contacts unfortunately :/ I'm thinking about LensCrafters, any recommendations??..
Quote from: serenityfaith on March 06, 2015, 09:52:48 AM
Cute!!! I like that floral dress too! I may need glasses here soon, gotta wear those before contacts unfortunately :/ I'm thinking about LensCrafters, any recommendations??..
Thanks;. :)
I go to a local optometrist. He gives me a full work up, dilation and everything. Insurance covers it all. He is very good but his office staff can be overwhelmed.
As for chains I like Cohen's but I also like Costco. In some states I don't believe you need a membership to get glasses.
Beautiful picture and the hair color really suits you too.
Mariah
Quote from: carmenkate on March 05, 2015, 10:54:04 PM
I was so inspired to beat my face with makeup this morning and had to take a selfie :D By the way, the pics on this thread blows me away - such beautiful women xoxo
April
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGM6LQb0.jpg&hash=80f6810838cb042621cfdbaca16a3a2860e457df)
Definitely pass. Lovely pics.
Mariah
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 06, 2015, 04:35:35 AM
Here are a few of mine.
This would be like me in the store checking my shopping list on my phone or posting on Susan's:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1188.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz403%2Frjairam%2F1635E4A8-A59A-4552-9189-F11D8CB32EBC_zps0ryb17vm.jpg&hash=7346b63ba4cc8d8e29a4502b2161c9d8cc2396d2) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/user/rjairam/media/1635E4A8-A59A-4552-9189-F11D8CB32EBC_zps0ryb17vm.jpg.html)
My current glasses. I don't know if I like them all that much but a couple of people have said they are fine. I can get contacts on my insurance plan but I would still need a pair.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1188.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz403%2Frjairam%2FE0960AC1-6D5D-4EAC-8AFF-A0F99F46EFA6_zpsvzhv9vbt.jpg&hash=28574796c066b9c50b0624f973aa4735fabb880f) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/user/rjairam/media/E0960AC1-6D5D-4EAC-8AFF-A0F99F46EFA6_zpsvzhv9vbt.jpg.html)
What do you all think?
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 06, 2015, 09:56:09 AM
Thanks;. :)
I go to a local optometrist. He gives me a full work up, dilation and everything. Insurance covers it all. He is very good but his office staff can be overwhelmed.
As for chains I like Cohen's but I also like Costco. In some states I don't believe you need a membership to get glasses.
Oh rock on! :) My insurance is pretty good too (for the first time in my life) which is super nice! I've been looking at these on Lenscrafters but I cant decide - http://www.lenscrafters.com/lc-us/dkny/679420215235 what do you think? I haven't given much thought into chains.. However I am SUPER clumsy sometimes :/ LOL thanks for bringing that to mind! :)
You definitely pass. You don't always need to have started HRT to pass. I'm proof of that. Both books are lovely. You don't even really need the makeup to pass where as I'm self conscious about being caught without makeup and really don't have reason to be.
Mariah
Quote from: Rotika on March 06, 2015, 03:41:45 AM
Just out of bed. no makeup.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FIMG_20150305_014507_zpsc9w9gadm.jpg&hash=0213a0cf15ea572508991a57575a4496251d1990) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/IMG_20150305_014507_zpsc9w9gadm.jpg.html)
After getting dolled up.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FIMG_20150305_145150_zpsvmhxv5wm.jpg&hash=61993016f58b2f82c63fbce292f2a48a75ad6ac7) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/IMG_20150305_145150_zpsvmhxv5wm.jpg.html)
So I got done taking pictures and feel like they just don't do me much justice. In the mirror I think I looked so cute.. but the pictures just look... idk. weird. Anyways. I went around asking everyone in my family what they thought. No one said I failed. In fact the worst that was even said was "I'm just not used to it.. so it's hard to say if you would pass or not". Others said I passed.
So.. Do I pass? I'm pre HRT. Just playing with makeup and having a good time. I keep looking in the mirror thinking I have a pretty good chance at passing. But I wanna know what you all think. Brutality is welcome. Don't sugar coat it. I can take it :D
Quote from: serenityfaith on March 06, 2015, 10:04:56 AM
Oh rock on! :) My insurance is pretty good too (for the first time in my life) which is super nice! I've been looking at these on Lenscrafters but I cant decide - http://www.lenscrafters.com/lc-us/dkny/679420215235 what do you think? I haven't given much thought into chains.. However I am SUPER clumsy sometimes :/ LOL thanks for bringing that to mind! :)
I'm not 100% sure how it would look on your face. However for your shape face that would seem like it would work.
You can also try framesdirect, glassesusa or Warby Parker. You can upload photos and do a virtual try on. They also have a try on at home kit but the selection is somewhat limited. You would still need an eye exam but as you said you have decent insurance so that should be no problem.
Quote from: Alyssa Rae on March 04, 2015, 01:56:02 AM
Hi! I just hit four months. I don't know how to do makeup, so forgive me there. Luckily, it was only lipstick and eyeshadow, so I don't think I messed it up too bad. These pics range from the 3 1/2 month mark up until yesterday when I hit four months. Hoping to be able to go full time within the next 3-6 months. Any advice or constructive criticism is appreciated, as well as general input. Oh, as far as age is concerned, I'm 25 years old.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpspqfzudhd.jpg&hash=7fef6681c1ae802ead463fe334f852341b17f4ff) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpspqfzudhd.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsow8tmbjo.jpg&hash=91e65acba66fcbebc0314da01f3e6392fcf14ee5) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsow8tmbjo.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsicgbj6b9.jpg&hash=1e15c5101aa8abc39262c30ea565673a20aceb4a) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsicgbj6b9.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsithwc3yy.jpg&hash=52259fd36939c465a41269bac4fc49fb7bbe4408) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsithwc3yy.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsj1zqyvfv.jpg&hash=61d518dd39a65f5f40a39732e86ecb150654f1fe) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsj1zqyvfv.jpg.html)
Aly,
You look fantastic, especially for only four months. You have a great face shape, which I'm sure will only improve as you continue in your transition. Full lips, sparkling eyes, and a great smile. My favorites are the bottom two; you just look so natural and happy.
Keep on smiling and keep on sharing!
Cheers,
Tegi
Quote from: carmenkate on March 05, 2015, 10:54:04 PM
I was so inspired to beat my face with makeup this morning and had to take a selfie :D By the way, the pics on this thread blows me away - such beautiful women xoxo
April
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Wow girl! You look great. Pass, no question.
Quote from: Rotika on March 06, 2015, 03:41:45 AM
Just out of bed. no makeup.
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After getting dolled up.
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You look great, you'll pass no problem!
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 06, 2015, 04:35:35 AM
Here are a few of mine.
This would be like me in the store checking my shopping list on my phone or posting on Susan's:
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My current glasses. I don't know if I like them all that much but a couple of people have said they are fine. I can get contacts on my insurance plan but I would still need a pair.
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What do you all think?
Your first pic looks so natural! You've got the whole package there. Just a girl looking at her phone. :)
Quote from: Rotika on March 06, 2015, 03:41:45 AM
Just out of bed. no makeup.
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After getting dolled up.
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So I got done taking pictures and feel like they just don't do me much justice. In the mirror I think I looked so cute.. but the pictures just look... idk. weird. Anyways. I went around asking everyone in my family what they thought. No one said I failed. In fact the worst that was even said was "I'm just not used to it.. so it's hard to say if you would pass or not". Others said I passed.
So.. Do I pass? I'm pre HRT. Just playing with makeup and having a good time. I keep looking in the mirror thinking I have a pretty good chance at passing. But I wanna know what you all think. Brutality is welcome. Don't sugar coat it. I can take it :D
You look great :) I would probably clock you, but that's because, seeing myself in the mirror every day I kind of already know what to look for... But eh you're fine :)
Dare I ask? I hope this isn't too personal. If it is feel free to tell me to shush and to pester off :P How on EARTH do you have that cleavage pre HRT? I've been 7 months already and even with double push up bras and squeezing them together I can't get any cleavage what so ever >:<
Quote from: bluebirdx88 on March 06, 2015, 12:51:47 PM
You look great :) I would probably clock you, but that's because, seeing myself in the mirror every day I kind of already know what to look for... But eh you're fine :)
Dare I ask? I hope this isn't too personal. If it is feel free to tell me to shush and to pester off :P How on EARTH do you have that cleavage pre HRT? I've been 7 months already and even with double push up bras and squeezing them together I can't get any cleavage what so ever >:<
OMG lol.. Hun just look up creating cleavage with a NuBra on youtube. You'll need to carry a brick in your purse though. Once you get as much cleavage as I fake... well.. Everyone's eyes just go there. And I would never tell anyone to shush! lol.. I had so many questions when I first started figuring myself out and everyone I asked was VERY helpful. I'll always want to return that kindness :D
Like I stated.. I really don't think the pictures did me any justice. I've never been photogenic. Or maybe I've just never had any confidence on camera. Idk. Lastnight I finaly told my entire household about me. (living with 8 family members long story) So Now I get to go girlmode MUCH more often. And take pics! :D :D I'll keep posting if you promise to keep judging haha
I got several replies saying I was cute and pretty. Thank you ALL for the nice comments. I was really not expecting them. Being the ugly boy all my life and suddenly being complimented is a big step for me. It means a lot. Thank you all.
<-- I will just use my profile pic as well since idk how to upload a pic in this reply. What do you think?
BTW Rotika you look absolutely gorgeous! Come hrt you are going to be amazing. My advice ask one of your girlfriends who is good with makeup to teach you to contour your jawline (ie soften it up) I think it does loads regardless of pre or post hrt.
Hello Everyone,
So today I went out on my own for the first time... it was a bit scary but I did it (yay!!). Anyways, I decided that I wanted to wear minimal make up to see if I could pass with just a little bit of help from make up. I was shopping and I heard a worker mention something about me (she said theres one in the plaid jacket), so I was a bit self conscious after that, but before that I felt okay. It's hard not to think the worst of people. What do you guys think?? Any suggestions?
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Quote from: Cole 1994 on March 06, 2015, 04:53:29 PM
Hello Everyone,
So today I went out on my own for the first time... it was a bit scary but I did it (yay!!). Anyways, I decided that I wanted to wear minimal make up to see if I could pass with just a little bit of help from make up. I was shopping and I heard a worker mention something about me (she said theres one in the plaid jacket), so I was a bit self conscious after that, but before that I felt okay. It's hard not to think the worst of people. What do you guys think?? Any suggestions?
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Hey Cole,
You have a really pretty face try not to cover it up so much, also dont be afraid to show some body shape and skin; like some cute skinny jeans and a cute blouse with an open jacket (not so puffy as the one your wearing).
But your doing the right thing with your makeup, less is definitely more! It gives you a gorgeous natural look.
Maybe try having a look on 'Pinterest' for outfit ideas. That has helped me amazingly.
Quote from: Sarah on March 06, 2015, 05:07:33 PM
Hey Cole,
You have a really pretty face try not to cover it up so much, also dont be afraid to show some body shape and skin; like some cute skinny jeans and a cute blouse with an open jacket (not so puffy as the one your wearing).
But your doing the right thing with your makeup, less is definitely more! It gives you a gorgeous natural look.
Maybe try having a look on 'Pinterest' for outfit ideas. That has helped me amazingly.
Thank you!! That's very kind. But I was just trying to be very casual with my clothing. This is my mom's jacket and some pants I got from the girl section at urban outfitters. I do like to wear cute outfits but you gotta dress down some days! I just wanted to see if I could pass dressing down/comfy. I guess it gives me no shape which could be an issue. I do have a bit of shape on my chest, but again its hard to see with a jacket on. I need help on being casual, I guess is what I am going for! Any suggestions on that end?
Quote from: Cole 1994 on March 06, 2015, 05:16:17 PM
Thank you!! That's very kind. But I was just trying to be very casual with my clothing. This is my mom's jacket and some pants I got from the girl section at urban outfitters. I do like to wear cute outfits but you gotta dress down some days! I just wanted to see if I could pass dressing down/comfy. I guess it gives me no shape which could be an issue. I do have a bit of shape on my chest, but again its hard to see with a jacket on.
The jacket is the main issue, maybe a thin leather one would suit you better. It would be a bit more form fitting and help with shape. Plus as a style you dont necessarily have to zip it up, have it open with a long scarf.
Dressing down is always a good tell, just be careful what you wear. You can definitely dress down and be super casual but still really cute, look at these.
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/6a/59/05/6a59053bf92167d9f790214a7b2a951f.jpg/ (http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/6a/59/05/6a59053bf92167d9f790214a7b2a951f.jpg/)
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Quote from: Sarah on March 06, 2015, 05:28:41 PM
The jacket is the main issue, maybe a thin leather one would suit you better. It would be a bit more form fitting and help with shape. Plus as a style you dont necessarily have to zip it up, have it open with a long scarf.
Dressing down is always a good tell, just be careful what you wear. You can definitely dress down and be super casual but still really cute, look at these.
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/6a/59/05/6a59053bf92167d9f790214a7b2a951f.jpg/ (http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/6a/59/05/6a59053bf92167d9f790214a7b2a951f.jpg/)
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/64/d3/f0/64d3f040d0c64aa3e7556479164b12cb.jpg (http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/64/d3/f0/64d3f040d0c64aa3e7556479164b12cb.jpg)
Thank you!! I appreciate the suggestions :)
Quote from: Sarah on March 06, 2015, 05:28:41 PM
The jacket is the main issue, maybe a thin leather one would suit you better. It would be a bit more form fitting and help with shape. Plus as a style you dont necessarily have to zip it up, have it open with a long scarf.
Dressing down is always a good tell, just be careful what you wear. You can definitely dress down and be super casual but still really cute, look at these.
This is great advice. I could not agree more about the jacket. I also think the scarf is a little.....roomy? I would stretch that thing out on the bed and fold it so it's more of a strip of fabric than a rectangle. I think that would look better.
Then again I just wear jeans and sweaters when its cold, so what do I know? lol....I do wear scarves often though.
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Well this is me 6 month mark I feel amazing my transition is about me been me but in saying that I would love to pass as we all would.
don't quiet think I'm there yet[emoji12]
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And I have to do it as much as it kills me I'm still wearing my wig every where but just thought I would show 6 months hair growth. Had a number 1 full head shave when I started hrt
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Quote from: carmenkate on March 05, 2015, 10:54:04 PM
I was so inspired to beat my face with makeup this morning and had to take a selfie :D By the way, the pics on this thread blows me away - such beautiful women xoxo
April
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Wow April... definitely in the pass region. You're coming along nicely in your transition. :3
You've inspired me hon, I may have to break out the kabuki brushes and get face painting. LOL
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Pics of me taken last night. Four months on HRT. Minimal makeup, just badly done eyeshadow and lipstick. As always, any advice or constructive criticism is appreciated. I really hope I can go full time in the near future, but I'm scared to death and really unsure if I'm really passable or people are being nice. I take all the praise and criticism to heart. I feel like I've really changed radically between months 3 and 4. Both physically and emotionally. Thank you for your input!
Leila, thank you so much for your kind words :-*. Imaginekate inspired me to lightly batter my face with make up.
Make-up has been an obsession sadly and I need to temper it as it costs so much $$$
Love, go and batter that face up and show us that pretty face of yours.
hugs and kisses,
April
Quote from: Leila on March 07, 2015, 09:20:58 AM
Wow April... definitely in the pass region. You're coming along nicely in your transition. :3
You've inspired me hon, I may have to break out the kabuki brushes and get face painting. LOL
Amazing progress Summer :) you look so different.
HRT has really work its magic on you. I'm on the same boat with hair - take biotin and don't wash your hair everyday.
I swear it will grow long faster.
xxx
April
Quote from: Summer on March 07, 2015, 06:09:04 AM
Well this is me 6 month mark I feel amazing my transition is about me been me but in saying that I would love to pass as we all would.
don't quiet think I'm there yet[emoji12]
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And I have to do it as much as it kills me I'm still wearing my wig every where but just thought I would show 6 months hair growth. Had a number 1 full head shave when I started hrt
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I'll throw my ugly mug into the mix for a good measure.
No, I don't pass, not at all.
No, I don't want to use make-up yet: the point is to look female without.
Yes, I've been on HRT for over a year now.
Yes, I am planning for FFS in a couple of years.
Just need the cash and the appropriate time for it.
Money can solve any problem, especially the ones I have.
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Quote from: Summer on March 07, 2015, 06:09:04 AM
Well this is me 6 month mark I feel amazing my transition is about me been me but in saying that I would love to pass as we all would.
don't quiet think I'm there yet[emoji12]
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And I have to do it as much as it kills me I'm still wearing my wig every where but just thought I would show 6 months hair growth. Had a number 1 full head shave when I started hrt
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Sunmer you have come along ways. You pass much more than you think. I agree with April to not wash your hair everyday. Admittedly it's a habit I need to break too. Hugs
Mariah
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Quote from: carmenkate on March 07, 2015, 10:06:09 AM
Leila, thank you so much for your kind words :-*. Imaginekate inspired me to lightly batter my face with make up.
Make-up has been an obsession sadly and I need to temper it as it costs so much $$$
Love, go and batter that face up and show us that pretty face of yours.
hugs and kisses,
April
It was starting to get dark by the time I put the slap on, but I managed to get a few photos taken before it got too dark.
Password as before is letmein http://s36.photobucket.com/user/iam_leila/library/image_3 (http://s36.photobucket.com/user/iam_leila/library/image_3)
Um Leila, I seriously had to sit right up from lounging in my bed and look at that gorgeous face of yours.
Babe, you are a hot chick. This is the LOOK! Beautiful, Graceful and Innocent - Love it.
I just couldn't stop myself from posting your pic. I AM SO EXCITED for you LOL :-*
Quote from: Leila on March 07, 2015, 03:19:10 PM
It was starting to get dark by the time I put the slap on, but I managed to get a few photos taken before it got too dark.
Password as before is letmein http://s36.photobucket.com/user/iam_leila/library/image_3 (http://s36.photobucket.com/user/iam_leila/library/image_3)
Babe the feeling is mutual. You are a hottie xoxo
April
Quote from: serenityfaith on March 06, 2015, 09:44:38 AM
You look so lovely!! :)
Ok dont hate me for saying this but I don't think you need FFS.
Just shaping your brows and using minimal makeup will save you lots $$$
You are beautiful, just let the hair grow and you'll be fine.
xxx
April
Quote from: Alyx Vox on March 07, 2015, 10:16:42 AM
I'll throw my ugly mug into the mix for a good measure.
No, I don't pass, not at all.
No, I don't want to use make-up yet: the point is to look female without.
Yes, I've been on HRT for over a year now.
Yes, I am planning for FFS in a couple of years.
Just need the cash and the appropriate time for it.
Money can solve any problem, especially the ones I have.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs15.postimg.org%2Forvqgjl2j%2FWP_20150307_11_59_03_Pro_highres_1.jpg&hash=cc379d9e62b5e4ea2856aff43fe7871e4c3ec61f)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.postimg.org%2Fgfe8csrbt%2FWP_20150307_11_59_53_Pro_highres_1.jpg&hash=352ef9e27bb43d0be16c1f94e5ff41dd4a5036e2)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs9.postimg.org%2Fdz0191nhb%2FWP_20150307_12_02_19_Pro_highres_1.jpg&hash=d08c35e99dedbb2f7fc7e672adf33622b6a38f2d)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fewlnqx33p%2FWP_20150307_12_05_40_Pro_highres_1.jpg&hash=647e0268d56b56daf0b645949f0a2cae5e3779d7)
Quote from: carmenkate on March 07, 2015, 03:25:33 PM
Um Leila, I seriously had to sit right up from lounging in my bed and look at that gorgeous face of yours.
Babe, you are a hot chick. This is the LOOK! Beautiful, Graceful and Innocent - Love it.
I just couldn't stop myself from posting your pic. I AM SO EXCITED for you LOL :-*
Aww thanks babe :3
It has been ages since I put on all the make up, but I took your challenge on. I usually just cheat and put a little eyeliner, brow pencil and lippy on. Discovered in the process I need a new cosmetic pencil sharpener, the blade has dulled and kept breaking the lead on one of the pencils. *grrr*
Quote from: Alyx Vox on March 07, 2015, 10:16:42 AM
I'll throw my ugly mug into the mix for a good measure.
No, I don't pass, not at all.
No, I don't want to use make-up yet: the point is to look female without.
Yes, I've been on HRT for over a year now.
Yes, I am planning for FFS in a couple of years.
Just need the cash and the appropriate time for it.
Money can solve any problem, especially the ones I have.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs15.postimg.org%2Forvqgjl2j%2FWP_20150307_11_59_03_Pro_highres_1.jpg&hash=cc379d9e62b5e4ea2856aff43fe7871e4c3ec61f)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.postimg.org%2Fgfe8csrbt%2FWP_20150307_11_59_53_Pro_highres_1.jpg&hash=352ef9e27bb43d0be16c1f94e5ff41dd4a5036e2)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs9.postimg.org%2Fdz0191nhb%2FWP_20150307_12_02_19_Pro_highres_1.jpg&hash=d08c35e99dedbb2f7fc7e672adf33622b6a38f2d)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fewlnqx33p%2FWP_20150307_12_05_40_Pro_highres_1.jpg&hash=647e0268d56b56daf0b645949f0a2cae5e3779d7)
Hi Alyx,
It's kind of hard to see with your natural hair. Do you have a wig? I am so sorry but I think the (lack of) hair will gender you male almost instantly. With the right hair your face shouldn't matter as much and it would be easier to do a proper assessment.
Also your eyebrows. Shaping them is often the single most feminizing thing one can do to a face without surgery or even hormones.
Quote from: Alyx Vox on March 07, 2015, 10:16:42 AM
I'll throw my ugly mug into the mix for a good measure.
No, I don't pass, not at all.
No, I don't want to use make-up yet: the point is to look female without.
Yes, I've been on HRT for over a year now.
Yes, I am planning for FFS in a couple of years.
Just need the cash and the appropriate time for it.
Money can solve any problem, especially the ones I have.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs15.postimg.org%2Forvqgjl2j%2FWP_20150307_11_59_03_Pro_highres_1.jpg&hash=cc379d9e62b5e4ea2856aff43fe7871e4c3ec61f)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.postimg.org%2Fgfe8csrbt%2FWP_20150307_11_59_53_Pro_highres_1.jpg&hash=352ef9e27bb43d0be16c1f94e5ff41dd4a5036e2)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs9.postimg.org%2Fdz0191nhb%2FWP_20150307_12_02_19_Pro_highres_1.jpg&hash=d08c35e99dedbb2f7fc7e672adf33622b6a38f2d)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fewlnqx33p%2FWP_20150307_12_05_40_Pro_highres_1.jpg&hash=647e0268d56b56daf0b645949f0a2cae5e3779d7)
Why aren't you trying make up? It's not like you need to wear the Kim Kardashian or a drag queen contouring type of make up, just something in the eyes... It sees weird for me you haven't done any attempt at feminizing, hrt are not magic pills and this is an example, while clothing, right hair, right make up, etc... Can help a lot.
Also, we can't discuss hrt dosages here, but I guess you are on a low dosage, are you full time or part time? or no time at all? One year... Oh well!
You all need to understand that different people have different pathway. What might be a comfortable scenario that many do in often similar way, is not for everyone. Some people feel comfortable with androgynous phase (hell, I had androgynous phase for all my life before transition...), some people feel comfortable with going full-time very early, (some even years before hormones) and can deal with not being passable for one or two or more years, while they do their best to learn and improve make-up, experiment with wigs and hair, etc... While some people really don't feel comfortable with even the idea of being unpassable, and choose the different path, maybe one that would follow something like this (just an example): HRT for 3-4 years, staying in completely "male mode" the whole time, without much if any trans(ition) related disruptions, staying in well paid job and saving money, slow coming-out process kept around close family & friends, completely finished all body and facial hair related issues... and then, when the time is right: Quit job, FFS, Voice surgery, SRS, breast augmentation, body feminization (+recovery time) ... follow by change of documents, relocation to a different area/city/country, and live stealth and happily ever after. I know of a few such cases, I'm shure there are many more. So different people have a different needs, and choices to make. Just because many choose to have gradual transition, from male mode, through unpassable phase, to sometimes passable, to almost passable, to really passable, it doesn't mean this is the way everybody feels comfortable with. Many don't, I also didn't. I stayed in my comfortable androgynous mode for until I finished a battle with facial hair, and until I became comfortable enough with my body, despite that I was most of the time gendered female by everyone I met. Then after I knew it's the time, I ditched my "lesbian look" (how my friends described it), went "full-time", and wasn't stared at or clocked since by anybody. I later had FFS for my own reasons, and just in case if maybe someday I want to grow bushy eyebrows, cut my hair completely short with a machine, bring out my hidden "lesbian" clothes and still be percieved as cis-female by everyone (maybe a little crazy cis-female). What I'm trying to say, what works for you, might not work for me, or someone else. The only thing that matter is to not rush anything just for the sake of doing it.. do it when you feel comfortable doing it, and in a way that you feel is the right way.
Alyx Vox.
Honest opinion, you obviously dont pass in the pictures, but Im sure you were not trying too either.- But I can see hrt is in the mix and does help change you physically, but the main base is your mug, good news is I can see with longer hair, make up, some more rounding in the face, you could find your way to passing. Do it at your own pace, its not a fast race, its a journey you have to come through to the other side of. You can do it, stay positive. And major kudos to being brave enough to post pictures, those pics will be neat against the great pictures you have to come. ^-^.. I look forward to that.
Love Stephee
Alyx,
One more thing your eyes are beutiful, they will be stunning when you decide on the make up.
Quote from: carmenkate on March 05, 2015, 10:54:04 PM
I was so inspired to beat my face with makeup this morning and had to take a selfie :D By the way, the pics on this thread blows me away - such beautiful women xoxo
April
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hi beautiful I think you no longer need the do I pass thread you belong in the I look fabulous thread total pass for me you look like a beautiful woman not a pinch of your old self can be seen absolutely stunning xxoo
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Quote from: mmmmm on March 07, 2015, 05:50:25 PM
You all need to understand that different people have different pathway. What might be a comfortable scenario that many do in often similar way, is not for everyone. Some people feel comfortable with androgynous phase (hell, I had androgynous phase for all my life before transition...), some people feel comfortable with going full-time very early, (some even years before hormones) and can deal with not being passable for one or two or more years, while they do their best to learn and improve make-up, experiment with wigs and hair, etc... While some people really don't feel comfortable with even the idea of being unpassable, and choose the different path, maybe one that would follow something like this (just an example): HRT for 3-4 years, staying in completely "male mode" the whole time, without much if any trans(ition) related disruptions, staying in well paid job and saving money, slow coming-out process kept around close family & friends, completely finished all body and facial hair related issues... and then, when the time is right: Quit job, FFS, Voice surgery, SRS, breast augmentation, body feminization (+recovery time) ... follow by change of documents, relocation to a different area/city/country, and live stealth and happily ever after. I know of a few such cases, I'm shure there are many more. So different people have a different needs, and choices to make. Just because many choose to have gradual transition, from male mode, through unpassable phase, to sometimes passable, to almost passable, to really passable, it doesn't mean this is the way everybody feels comfortable with. Many don't, I also didn't. I stayed in my comfortable androgynous mode for until I finished a battle with facial hair, and until I became comfortable enough with my body, despite that I was most of the time gendered female by everyone I met. Then after I knew it's the time, I ditched my "lesbian look" (how my friends described it), went "full-time", and wasn't stared at or clocked since by anybody. I later had FFS for my own reasons, and just in case if maybe someday I want to grow bushy eyebrows, cut my hair completely short with a machine, bring out my hidden "lesbian" clothes and still be percieved as cis-female by everyone (maybe a little crazy cis-female). What I'm trying to say, what works for you, might not work for me, or someone else. The only thing that matter is to not rush anything just for the sake of doing it.. do it when you feel comfortable doing it, and in a way that you feel is the right way.
That's awful to me, I feel like people who do this type of things are cowards, I am not full time, but that's because my parents don't want me to, not because I chose to do that, and people that do that are not helping our community at all, you make it seem like it's shameful to be trans, I am not saying that you need to be up and out with everyone, but you do live a very sad and dark life that way, if you don't live your life as yoru true self for that long.
I don't think any therapist will agree with what you said, you do need experience living as a woman, you can't just hide yourself 4-5 years. To each it's own, so yeah.
Quote from: Alyssa Rae on March 07, 2015, 09:57:54 AM
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Pics of me taken last night. Four months on HRT. Minimal makeup, just badly done eyeshadow and lipstick. As always, any advice or constructive criticism is appreciated. I really hope I can go full time in the near future, but I'm scared to death and really unsure if I'm really passable or people are being nice. I take all the praise and criticism to heart. I feel like I've really changed radically between months 3 and 4. Both physically and emotionally. Thank you for your input!
You're really cute, I think you pass already!
Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 07, 2015, 11:57:57 PM
That's awful to me, I feel like people who do this type of things are cowards, I am not full time, but that's because my parents don't want me to, not because I chose to do that, and people that do that are not helping our community at all, you make it seem like it's shameful to be trans, I am not saying that you need to be up and out with everyone, but you do live a very sad and dark life that way, if you don't live your life as yoru true self for that long.
I don't think any therapist will agree with what you said, you do need experience living as a woman, you can't just hide yourself 4-5 years. To each it's own, so yeah.
Definitely to each their own. Nobody is a coward here! Coming out to ourselves is hard enough especially considering the upbringings that some of us go through.
Everyone's path is unique, and there is no way to validate which one is best for all.. There is just the best path for each individual. Sometimes it is necessary to hide the beginning stages of transition for one's own safety and/or job security. And there are many other reasons why some people do it. It is completely understandable imo. Just depends on our unique situation.
Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 07, 2015, 11:57:57 PM
That's awful to me, I feel like people who do this type of things are cowards, I am not full time, but that's because my parents don't want me to, not because I chose to do that, and people that do that are not helping our community at all, you make it seem like it's shameful to be trans, I am not saying that you need to be up and out with everyone, but you do live a very sad and dark life that way, if you don't live your life as yoru true self for that long.
I don't think any therapist will agree with what you said, you do need experience living as a woman, you can't just hide yourself 4-5 years. To each it's own, so yeah.
Understand that many of us have different hurdles to overcome.
In my case I interact with staff at my kids school. Their school is a catholic school. I'm terrified of consequences for them if I just come out in the middle of the school term. So I'm delaying going full time until their summer break where I can start fresh in the new school term.
Some of us have jobs, military service and other adult commitments to deal with, where a gender change can throw a serious wrench into things. You just turned 18. Spend some time in the adult world before passing judgement. It's not cowardice. It's reality. Believe me if you think it's bad with your mom wait until you get a boss or have to deal with people who can make your life miserable with the stroke of a pen.
As for your comment about therapists? Mine said that there may be instances where I have to present as a male and asked how I would deal with it. So "hiding" is not necessarily bad and a competent therapist is not just going to throw you out into the world with an instant gender switch and tell you to sink or swim. In my case I was encouraged to take small steps and when I gained confidence move to the next. I've come a long way this way.
Hi Everyone,
Finally worked out how to post images (I think). So anyway...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cc66hi8dm4jowrt/IMG_20150117_144700.jpg?n=352808889 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/cc66hi8dm4jowrt/IMG_20150117_144700.jpg?n=352808889)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mo30s7j9sndtvrc/20150306_173729.jpg?n=352808889 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mo30s7j9sndtvrc/20150306_173729.jpg?n=352808889)
Thanks in advance :D
Sez
Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 07, 2015, 11:57:57 PM
That's awful to me, I feel like people who do this type of things are cowards, I am not full time, but that's because my parents don't want me to, not because I chose to do that, and people that do that are not helping our community at all, you make it seem like it's shameful to be trans, I am not saying that you need to be up and out with everyone, but you do live a very sad and dark life that way, if you don't live your life as yoru true self for that long.
Honestly, it sounds as if your parents are making it seem shameful for you to be trans, and you are politely going along with it. Of course, I could be wrong, couldn't I? I don't know your situation.
And you don't know hers. But perhaps you can imagine that other people have a process different from yours. Before you go around calling people cowards, you might want to get in their shoes and walk around a bit. And if you don't have enough information to do that, then maybe you don't have enough information to be judgmental, either.
Quote from: Sarah on March 08, 2015, 01:41:57 AM
Hi Everyone,
Finally worked out how to post images (I think). So anyway...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cc66hi8dm4jowrt/IMG_20150117_144700.jpg?n=352808889 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/cc66hi8dm4jowrt/IMG_20150117_144700.jpg?n=352808889)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mo30s7j9sndtvrc/20150306_173729.jpg?n=352808889 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mo30s7j9sndtvrc/20150306_173729.jpg?n=352808889)
Thanks in advance :D
Sez
wow Sarah looking great its a pass for me xx
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Looking fine Summer sunshine [emoji7]
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Quote from: carmenkate on March 07, 2015, 03:31:41 PM
Ok dont hate me for saying this but I don't think you need FFS.
Just shaping your brows and using minimal makeup will save you lots $$$
You are beautiful, just let the hair grow and you'll be fine.
xxx
April
Thanks, but unfortunately my standards for myself are way too high. I will go for FFS no matter what.
It's not like I don't make enough money and lately I've negotiated an almost 50% increase in rates
for my upcoming freelance mission. My face is single most important thing to me, all the rest can wait.
HRT actually did a lot to my body, not so much to my face.
I'll let my hair grow of course, I actually had very long hair, but it was male hair, so I got rid of it. I'm gonna let it grow long again.
Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 07, 2015, 04:30:49 PM
Why aren't you trying make up? It's not like you need to wear the Kim Kardashian or a drag queen contouring type of make up, just something in the eyes... It sees weird for me you haven't done any attempt at feminizing, hrt are not magic pills and this is an example, while clothing, right hair, right make up, etc... Can help a lot.
Also, we can't discuss hrt dosages here, but I guess you are on a low dosage, are you full time or part time? or no time at all? One year... Oh well!
Please see above for a partial answer to your questions.
My dosage is what my lousy doctors had prescribed me. Please pm me the high dosage you're talking about and I'll share you mine.
Also, mind you I'm 30 years old. It's only natural HRT will work slower on me.
I'm not going to present myself as a woman unless I'm 90% satisfied with how I look, basically only after that "now I'm a girl" moment
and that means FFS.
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 07, 2015, 04:04:50 PM
Hi Alyx,
It's kind of hard to see with your natural hair. Do you have a wig? I am so sorry but I think the (lack of) hair will gender you male almost instantly. With the right hair your face shouldn't matter as much and it would be easier to do a proper assessment.
Also your eyebrows. Shaping them is often the single most feminizing thing one can do to a face without surgery or even hormones.
See above. :)
That's how I looked about a year ago.
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Gained about 10 kilos since then, which sucks, but I think I do look a bit more feminine now, minus the hair.
I have the money to do a facial hair removal now. That's what I'm going to start doing sometime this month.
Luckily my body has almost zero hair now, even my legs. Well, I never was that hairy to begin with.
Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 07, 2015, 11:57:57 PM
That's awful to me, I feel like people who do this type of things are cowards, I am not full time, but that's because my parents don't want me to, not because I chose to do that, and people that do that are not helping our community at all, you make it seem like it's shameful to be trans, I am not saying that you need to be up and out with everyone, but you do live a very sad and dark life that way, if you don't live your life as yoru true self for that long.
I don't think any therapist will agree with what you said, you do need experience living as a woman, you can't just hide yourself 4-5 years. To each it's own, so yeah.
Some people have it hard enough without you calling them cowards. Mods plz say something before you have to ban me. This kind of comment breeds anger. Lots of it.
Quote from: Rotika on March 08, 2015, 06:18:25 AM
Some people have it hard enough without you calling them cowards. Mods plz say something before you have to ban me. This kind of comment breeds anger. Lots of it.
It is understandable to be put off with such a comment, but please relax as the situation is being dealt with
BTW, you look very nice :icon_chick:
Hugs
Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 07, 2015, 11:59:49 PM
You're really cute, I think you pass already!
Thank you! I really appreciate it. You're very pretty yourself.
Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 07, 2015, 11:57:57 PM
That's awful to me, I feel like people who do this type of things are cowards, I am not full time, but that's because my parents don't want me to, not because I chose to do that, and people that do that are not helping our community at all, you make it seem like it's shameful to be trans, I am not saying that you need to be up and out with everyone, but you do live a very sad and dark life that way, if you don't live your life as yoru true self for that long.
I don't think any therapist will agree with what you said, you do need experience living as a woman, you can't just hide yourself 4-5 years. To each it's own, so yeah.
Like someone else said it before... Noone who has the courage to come-out to their family, go through transition to become their true self, isn't a coward by any means. Very opposite actually.
You are 18 and you are pre-transition... I'm shure you will learn and experience a lot more than you might expect now.
I went "full-time" when I was around 1 year on hormones, and had 11 laser sessions on my face... or with other words: when I felt comfortable enough, and knew it was the right time for me. Just because I wasn't clocked as trans by anyone, it doesn't mean I'm doing anything bad to our community by that. Luckily I didn't need to go through awkward "passing" stages, which would happen if I would go full-time earlier, without solved facial-hair issue. And I definitely don't think or try to make it seem that it's in anyway shameful to be trans. I'm young transsexual woman over transition, and I'm very proud of who I am, and very happy as I made my childhood dreams come true.
Oh dear. Can we all just get along?
Quote from: Alyx Vox on March 08, 2015, 09:06:35 AM
I came out to my mother even before I went to a therapist. Of course she pretty much disowned me right thereafter, but that's okay as I've disowned her as well.
Since then I've lost all of my friends because of this, the only person that held on is my brother, kudos to him for that. He's the only family I have and ever will have.
I know what consequences coming out can have. I'm not risking it anymore, not right after my life actually got good: I even stand a chance now. The risk is just
not worth the reward. Once I'm "fully" transitioned I will have moved to another country to start completely fresh. Then maybe, just maybe I will be able to find happiness I never had.
I hope your plan works out.. I have a friend who was in a very similar situation as you are, and who made a choice to transition in somehow a similar way that you are going to. This is why I felt the need to write my post, as I thought some of the responses you got were maybe a little judgemental in some way. I appologize to everybody if my post created a little unnecessary stir in unplanned direction.
I have removed several post and penalties have been applied.
I will remind people - and I am shocked that people need to be reminded, that insults and harsh language to members will not be tolerated.
This is a support site. We support.
Anyone who has a problem with that will be removed from the site.
Cindy
Forum Admin.
Quote from: Sarah on March 08, 2015, 01:41:57 AM
Hi Everyone,
Finally worked out how to post images (I think). So anyway...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cc66hi8dm4jowrt/IMG_20150117_144700.jpg?n=352808889 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/cc66hi8dm4jowrt/IMG_20150117_144700.jpg?n=352808889)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mo30s7j9sndtvrc/20150306_173729.jpg?n=352808889 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mo30s7j9sndtvrc/20150306_173729.jpg?n=352808889)
Thanks in advance :D
Sez
Lol, do I know you? You remind me of somebody I used to know.
EDIT: Nevermind, you live in Australia, cannot be.
Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 07, 2015, 11:57:57 PM
That's awful to me, I feel like people who do this type of things are cowards, I am not full time, but that's because my parents don't want me to, not because I chose to do that, and people that do that are not helping our community at all, you make it seem like it's shameful to be trans, I am not saying that you need to be up and out with everyone, but you do live a very sad and dark life that way, if you don't live your life as yoru true self for that long.
I don't think any therapist will agree with what you said, you do need experience living as a woman, you can't just hide yourself 4-5 years. To each it's own, so yeah.
I'm not replying to harp on you. It's obvious that your words stirred up some anger in a few members and understandably so. I just wanted to explain to you another way of looking at it.
There are many women (and men) who make a transition for their own sanity and have no interest in identifying with trans culture. Some transwomen, for example, don't allow themselves to be called "trans" and insist on simply being a woman. I personally have a hard time labeling myself that way because I view myself as a woman with a bad hormone imbalance and a phallic growth hiding my vagina. Those of us like that just want to find our comfort zone and move past the experience so we can enjoy the remainder of our lives. I have no idea how far I'll go with my transition (just finally saw a gender therapist last week and am pre-everything) but I already know I don't see myself as anything other than a girl who needs to fix her body. So "hiding" or coming out at different paces than yours isn't "cowardly" at all. Not all of us can be champions of the cause just because we are victims of it. Some of us aren't in the position to do so.
Alyssa rae....new pics are very passing you look great
Sarah...lookin very good...nice dress
Cindy....thank you
Quote from: Abysha on March 08, 2015, 07:11:10 PM
I'm not replying to harp on you. It's obvious that your words stirred up some anger in a few members and understandably so. I just wanted to explain to you another way of looking at it.
There are many women (and men) who make a transition for their own sanity and have no interest in identifying with trans culture. Some transwomen, for example, don't allow themselves to be called "trans" and insist on simply being a woman. I personally have a hard time labeling myself that way because I view myself as a woman with a bad hormone imbalance and a phallic growth hiding my vagina. Those of us like that just want to find our comfort zone and move past the experience so we can enjoy the remainder of our lives. I have no idea how far I'll go with my transition (just finally saw a gender therapist last week and am pre-everything) but I already know I don't see myself as anything other than a girl who needs to fix her body. So "hiding" or coming out at different paces than yours isn't "cowardly" at all. Not all of us can be champions of the cause just because we are victims of it. Some of us aren't in the position to do so.
When I used coward it was for the fact that this member was describing this person who decided to live until the time is right as a male and then go live as a stealth "cis" woman after, when the time is right: Quit job, FFS, Voice surgery, SRS, breast augmentation, body feminization (+recovery time) ... follow by change of documents, relocation to a different area/city/country, and live stealth and happily ever after. That's it. I am not against people being stealth, I might be stealth too if possible, that's not the problem to me, when I said that, which I understand now that it might have been harsh, even though I didn't mean that way. Though, I do think that someone that needs to complete their transition like that and live completely as male during your transition, is a little weird, and that's why I said that a therapist might look at that weirdly. I am not one though, so that's just my opinion. You can come out whenever you want to, it's not like you need a gold star from me or something for doing it as soon as possible, actually I think that coming out later is easier when you are transitioning already, I just said that living your life as your truly self only after all those surgeries seems problematic to me, and I don't think it's a good example, because not everyone can afford all those things, and if that was the only way then it would be crazy. I mean after you have reached a point that you are passing already, let's say after ffs, why do you need to still live your life as a male? You really don't need to go do srs before even going part-time. That seems to me to be a big stretch than just being comfortable, maybe you have some other problem with yourself that you need all those confirmations surgeries before it, but this it just my opinion. Adding to this, I was not judging any member of the forum I always talked using the plural and I think I used genderless pronouns, etc... Because of this person this member of the forum was describing, which I think it's not herself, so that's it. I don't think you're a coward if you don't live your life as a trans activist neither, that wasn't the point, actually even just being alive and well, and being happy is a great thing for our community.
Quote from: Sarah on March 08, 2015, 01:41:57 AM
Hi Everyone,
Finally worked out how to post images (I think). So anyway...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cc66hi8dm4jowrt/IMG_20150117_144700.jpg?n=352808889 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/cc66hi8dm4jowrt/IMG_20150117_144700.jpg?n=352808889)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mo30s7j9sndtvrc/20150306_173729.jpg?n=352808889 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mo30s7j9sndtvrc/20150306_173729.jpg?n=352808889)
Thanks in advance :D
Sez
Hi Sarah I love your dress it's really pretty, you have a great sense of fashion, the dress in your avatar picture is great also! I think that you are passable already too, which is harder usually with shorter hair, but it looks good on you! Maybe you could try make up if you want, but you rock the natural look!
If there is anymore discussion over the posts I moderated I will not be pleased.
Enough.
Cindy
Quote from: Alyssa Rae on March 07, 2015, 09:57:54 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsm4dh8l38.jpg&hash=a94788049f0ebaa3395921dbebba189bdfe1580b) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsm4dh8l38.jpg.html)
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsbjvjqbqn.jpg&hash=f2906b948d010409dd2fb0334417c1071dae4330) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsbjvjqbqn.jpg.html)
Pics of me taken last night. Four months on HRT. Minimal makeup, just badly done eyeshadow and lipstick. As always, any advice or constructive criticism is appreciated. I really hope I can go full time in the near future, but I'm scared to death and really unsure if I'm really passable or people are being nice. I take all the praise and criticism to heart. I feel like I've really changed radically between months 3 and 4. Both physically and emotionally. Thank you for your input!
You look cute. Just don't use to lipstick! Would look nice without need of makeup!
Quote from: Alyssa Rae on March 07, 2015, 09:57:54 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsm4dh8l38.jpg&hash=a94788049f0ebaa3395921dbebba189bdfe1580b) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsm4dh8l38.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsq9ssx8db.jpg&hash=9eacac49d8743daf8103e07b32e9ac70a58ed4e6) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsq9ssx8db.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsbjvjqbqn.jpg&hash=f2906b948d010409dd2fb0334417c1071dae4330) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsbjvjqbqn.jpg.html)
Pics of me taken last night. Four months on HRT. Minimal makeup, just badly done eyeshadow and lipstick. As always, any advice or constructive criticism is appreciated. I really hope I can go full time in the near future, but I'm scared to death and really unsure if I'm really passable or people are being nice. I take all the praise and criticism to heart. I feel like I've really changed radically between months 3 and 4. Both physically and emotionally. Thank you for your input!
You, darling, are very pretty. I would like to suggest showing more of your face.. but I do the same thing with my own hair to hide mine. Def pass in my book though. Hopefully I look half as good someday :D
Quote from: Alyssa Rae on March 08, 2015, 09:14:57 AM
Oh dear. Can we all just get along?
Seriously, let's all go back to telling Aly how amazing she looks!
;)
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on March 09, 2015, 02:52:40 PM
Seriously, let's all go back to telling Aly how amazing she looks!
;)
Either Aly. Or me! :D :D I mean.. She's gorgeous an all.. but cmon, lets make fun of the ugly girl some more haha! :D
Had so much fun taking selfies lastnight after I got a new shirt hehe
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2FIMG_20150309_023243_zpsopl1nkfc.jpg&hash=945ec334fd5b0467017d7277747fe765c5ac4e44) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/IMG_20150309_023243_zpsopl1nkfc.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2FIMG_20150309_024047_zps1bsnla5a.jpg&hash=9b7871ed1b1733efeb83fc1df1d22735d6f1697d) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/IMG_20150309_024047_zps1bsnla5a.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2FIMG_20150309_023649_zpsscepa649.jpg&hash=29f8d124409ec6800ccdaebe0cf2b4ff439320da) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/IMG_20150309_023649_zpsscepa649.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2FIMG_20150309_022924_zpsye5qplsa.jpg&hash=c9b7603d577e7d9cd86d529d8379d4a9239beeb1) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/IMG_20150309_022924_zpsye5qplsa.jpg.html)
Ugly girl? Where? I don't see any :icon_chick:
Quote from: stephee72 on March 08, 2015, 10:29:57 PM
Alyssa rae....new pics are very passing you look great
Sarah...lookin very good...nice dress
Cindy....thank you
Thanks stephee ♡
Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 08, 2015, 10:46:39 PM
Hi Sarah I love your dress it's really pretty, you have a great sense of fashion, the dress in your avatar picture is great also! I think that you are passable already too, which is harder usually with shorter hair, but it looks good on you! Maybe you could try make up if you want, but you rock the natural look!
Thanks so much Serena ♡ I love those more classic style dresses (especially like my profile pic) i have built up a little of a 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s style collection. I do quite a bit of makeup usually, it was just because I am getting FFS in about a month and was trying to see what you guys think with the natural look. Oh I just love my hair, it just gorgeous and curly. I'm in defence so i have had a crew cut for the last 4 yrs so it is so great to be able to grow it now. The best part is that in Australian Defence force i can continue to serve while I transition.
Thanks again for the great feedback
Quote from: Rotika on March 09, 2015, 09:55:27 PM
Either Aly. Or me! :D :D I mean.. She's gorgeous an all.. but cmon, lets make fun of the ugly girl some more haha! :D
Had so much fun taking selfies lastnight after I got a new shirt hehe
Rotika you look a amazing. You have a really cute face. Love the top! (Go batman! Lol) and that pink boe in your hair is gorgeous, I
Love it! ♥♡♥
Hugs ♥♥
Sez
P.S. here are some pics where i am wearing makeup
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4vqzab1feouepg/20150228_114900.jpg?n=352808889 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4vqzab1feouepg/20150228_114900.jpg?n=352808889)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/46yq8yz4lcmf4c2/IMG_20150207_200648.jpg?n=352808889 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/46yq8yz4lcmf4c2/IMG_20150207_200648.jpg?n=352808889)
Quote from: Sarah on March 09, 2015, 10:25:57 PM
P.S. here are some pics where i am wearing makeup
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4vqzab1feouepg/20150228_114900.jpg?n=352808889 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4vqzab1feouepg/20150228_114900.jpg?n=352808889)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/46yq8yz4lcmf4c2/IMG_20150207_200648.jpg?n=352808889 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/46yq8yz4lcmf4c2/IMG_20150207_200648.jpg?n=352808889)
Sarah your makeup looks so natural! Wear it proudly you look beautiful girl! And I don't see a trace of "dude" in you. *Jelous*
Quote from: V M on March 09, 2015, 10:21:33 PM
Ugly girl? Where? I don't see any :icon_chick:
Thanks VM. *HUGS* :D
Quote from: Yui on March 08, 2015, 11:54:40 PM
You look cute. Just don't use to lipstick! Would look nice without need of makeup!
The makeup was just some eyeshadow and lipstick. Pink was the only color I had, lol. Very much appreciated! Thank you!
Quote from: Rotika on March 09, 2015, 02:13:48 AM
You, darling, are very pretty. I would like to suggest showing more of your face.. but I do the same thing with my own hair to hide mine. Def pass in my book though. Hopefully I look half as good someday :D
very much appreciated! Thank you! You're very pretty yourself. Seems we like the same hairstyles too, which is awesome! Also, totes love the batman shirt. :D
Also super jelly of those boobs! Way to go girl! You pass 120%.
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on March 09, 2015, 02:52:40 PM
Seriously, let's all go back to telling Aly how amazing she looks!
;)
Awwwww! Thank you Tegi! :D
Just got my hair fixed and its a bit messy from working all morning but here is me, no makeup again and still no HRT...yet >:-) . I should hopefully soon get some as a friend is gonna help me out putting it on... I am clueless in the art of facial art :/ Also was tired from work when taken, not high :P
I Kinda do look like my sisters twin ::)
Glasses
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs10.postimg.org%2Fn8httwbpl%2FIMG_20150310_165628_098.jpg&hash=59eb2ae23d81db98acaeeb8d5356458d93f3e2a1)
No Glasses
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Young zep,
You look like you have a great starting point. Very soft face, eyes will pop with makeup, youll get there. Im glad you have help. Smile your going to be beutiful some day soon.
Quote from: antonia on March 03, 2015, 10:18:55 PM
Total pass, and quite a bit of jealousy :)
Wow thanks, I honestly didn't think I could just get a 'pass' that easily. No need to be jealous of me, my voice and shoulders are more than enough to give me away.
Quote from: stephee72 on March 03, 2015, 11:13:09 PM
Riven,
Hello either your blind or its not real, of course you pass. Natural born females would like to look as good. Keep it going, be confident.keep smiling. ;D... Stephee
Thank you so much for the compliment, I really had to share it with some people that have some experience. I really can't wait to start hormones. Confidence has never been my strong point, this is literally the only time I've ever been dressed honestly infront of others (my bests friend's wife and sister) they were amazing to me the way they included me. In all honesty I almost abandoned the topic because of the attitude in it recently but I need to respond to your kindness, thank you again :)
Quote from: Alyssa Rae on March 10, 2015, 12:28:27 AM
Awwwww! Thank you Tegi! :D
Quote from: Rotika on March 10, 2015, 12:12:09 AM
Sarah your makeup looks so natural! Wear it proudly you look beautiful girl! And I don't see a trace of "dude" in you. *Jelous*
Thanks VM. *HUGS* :D
You're both so beautiful I'm jealous!! :o
Quote from: Riven on March 11, 2015, 12:43:10 AM
You're both so beautiful I'm jealous!! :o
Why are you jealous? I'd kill to have your body right now. You are gorgeous yourself hun.
Hi all, Tegi here.
It's been a while since I posted in this thread, and I feel pretty good about how I've looked for the past couple of nights. Let me know what you think, yeah?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F98799DFA-39E4-4A63-9582-809ABAEEF874.jpg&hash=ad6e12494af5bca729ae3c574eca0e496d52d62b) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/98799DFA-39E4-4A63-9582-809ABAEEF874.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FC0F3374D-7DF6-4694-AA22-607FE2374A8D.jpg&hash=feb95c7899d0e9a413b8e0d75de97de6d7c6077f) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/C0F3374D-7DF6-4694-AA22-607FE2374A8D.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F27E3F708-5316-4362-B6BB-D8766C988F33.jpg&hash=28f7ad965f82b4e17cb02e706da5e17f0c52580a) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/27E3F708-5316-4362-B6BB-D8766C988F33.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F7F0B66C3-4F23-484B-9440-78DB23630056.jpg&hash=f1e38ca321b1239b6eaadfa9ccfa1a317442793a) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/7F0B66C3-4F23-484B-9440-78DB23630056.jpg.html)
Also, for contrast, here's my guy mode.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2486EC62-6765-4E84-9578-2C2615569A59.jpg&hash=36fc1c3c2190c2130aa29ab7da7d0df770893be4) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2486EC62-6765-4E84-9578-2C2615569A59.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FEDACD7AE-1EEF-4124-94B6-37086EB00281.jpg&hash=392fe5a44080f6c040bc607b204adc655e4d31ab) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/EDACD7AE-1EEF-4124-94B6-37086EB00281.jpg.html)
Cheers,
Tegan Willow
Quote from: Riven on March 11, 2015, 12:43:10 AM
You're both so beautiful I'm jealous!! :o
Thx Riven :) You look gorgeous too ♡ just looking at you profile pic I would definitely say 'Pass with flying colors'.
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on March 11, 2015, 12:24:46 PM
Hi all, Tegi here.
It's been a while since I posted in this thread, and I feel pretty good about how I've looked for the past couple of nights. Let me know what you think, yeah?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F98799DFA-39E4-4A63-9582-809ABAEEF874.jpg&hash=ad6e12494af5bca729ae3c574eca0e496d52d62b) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/98799DFA-39E4-4A63-9582-809ABAEEF874.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FC0F3374D-7DF6-4694-AA22-607FE2374A8D.jpg&hash=feb95c7899d0e9a413b8e0d75de97de6d7c6077f) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/C0F3374D-7DF6-4694-AA22-607FE2374A8D.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F27E3F708-5316-4362-B6BB-D8766C988F33.jpg&hash=28f7ad965f82b4e17cb02e706da5e17f0c52580a) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/27E3F708-5316-4362-B6BB-D8766C988F33.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F7F0B66C3-4F23-484B-9440-78DB23630056.jpg&hash=f1e38ca321b1239b6eaadfa9ccfa1a317442793a) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/7F0B66C3-4F23-484B-9440-78DB23630056.jpg.html)
Also, for contrast, here's my guy mode.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2486EC62-6765-4E84-9578-2C2615569A59.jpg&hash=36fc1c3c2190c2130aa29ab7da7d0df770893be4) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2486EC62-6765-4E84-9578-2C2615569A59.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FEDACD7AE-1EEF-4124-94B6-37086EB00281.jpg&hash=392fe5a44080f6c040bc607b204adc655e4d31ab) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/EDACD7AE-1EEF-4124-94B6-37086EB00281.jpg.html)
Cheers,
Tegan Willow
Hi Tegan :) love the red lips and black hair you look really sexy.
BTW really don't think you ever need to go guy mode. You are definitely a pass. Your first picture is so cute! Love how you have your hair and took the pic you look amazing girl! Be proud of who you are; your beautiful and it only gets better with time. ♡
Hugs
Sez
Good news: I have my first talk with a genderteam-psychologist on March the 20th! I am looking forward to begin sorting out the mess that my life has been :). My biggest concern when transitioning will be my face though... sometimes I can recognise something slightly feminine in it, but usually I see a grotesque brutal mask. I don't really mind my somewhat large nose as everyone has their physical flaws, but please gene-gods: give me a feminine face! At the moment I already receive psychosocial aid, and I stated that it would be a good thing to be able to lower my expectations (in this but in other matters as well) in case things don't turn out as I hoped they would.
I am hiding a part of my hair with a scarf, because it has grown quite a bit and it basically activated my sheep form :P. I wonder how my hair will behave when it is really long.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/250x333q90/673/QX0Krz.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/250x333q90/673/d8e4no.jpg)
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on March 11, 2015, 12:24:46 PM
Hi all, Tegi here.
It's been a while since I posted in this thread, and I feel pretty good about how I've looked for the past couple of nights. Let me know what you think, yeah?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F98799DFA-39E4-4A63-9582-809ABAEEF874.jpg&hash=ad6e12494af5bca729ae3c574eca0e496d52d62b) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/98799DFA-39E4-4A63-9582-809ABAEEF874.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FC0F3374D-7DF6-4694-AA22-607FE2374A8D.jpg&hash=feb95c7899d0e9a413b8e0d75de97de6d7c6077f) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/C0F3374D-7DF6-4694-AA22-607FE2374A8D.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F27E3F708-5316-4362-B6BB-D8766C988F33.jpg&hash=28f7ad965f82b4e17cb02e706da5e17f0c52580a) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/27E3F708-5316-4362-B6BB-D8766C988F33.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F7F0B66C3-4F23-484B-9440-78DB23630056.jpg&hash=f1e38ca321b1239b6eaadfa9ccfa1a317442793a) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/7F0B66C3-4F23-484B-9440-78DB23630056.jpg.html)
Also, for contrast, here's my guy mode.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2486EC62-6765-4E84-9578-2C2615569A59.jpg&hash=36fc1c3c2190c2130aa29ab7da7d0df770893be4) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2486EC62-6765-4E84-9578-2C2615569A59.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FEDACD7AE-1EEF-4124-94B6-37086EB00281.jpg&hash=392fe5a44080f6c040bc607b204adc655e4d31ab) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/EDACD7AE-1EEF-4124-94B6-37086EB00281.jpg.html)
Cheers,
Tegan Willow
You're looking great! I'd say pass for sure. Guy mode for you is androgynous at worst. Still look like a girl! That's a great thing. :D
Quote from: Bird Goddess on March 11, 2015, 06:30:44 PM
Good news: I have my first talk with a genderteam-psychologist on March the 20th! I am looking forward to begin sorting out the mess that my life has been :). My biggest concern when transitioning will be my face though... sometimes I can recognise something slightly feminine in it, but usually I see a grotesque brutal mask. I don't really mind my somewhat large nose as everyone has their physical flaws, but please gene-gods: give me a feminine face! At the moment I already receive psychosocial aid, and I stated that it would be a good thing to be able to lower my expectations (in this but in other matters as well) in case things don't turn out as I hoped they would.
I am hiding a part of my hair with a scarf, because it has grown quite a bit and it basically activated my sheep form :P. I wonder how my hair will behave when it is really long.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/250x333q90/673/QX0Krz.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/250x333q90/673/d8e4no.jpg)
Your face has soft features. Don't think you'll have anything to worry about! You definitely have that feminine "glow" to you.
Quote from: Riven on March 11, 2015, 12:43:10 AM
You're both so beautiful I'm jealous!! :o
You look super cute yourself! ;)
I'm kinda new here, so feel free to give me your opinion!
https://imgur.com/gallery/5DrOxZt/new (https://imgur.com/gallery/5DrOxZt/new)
http://imgur.com/31NkoZ7 (http://imgur.com/31NkoZ7)
Quote from: AndreaLinda on March 11, 2015, 09:40:30 PM
I'm kinda new here, so feel free to give me your opinion!
I think you've got it going, girl. If this is really your thing, you'll do fine. You've got legs some movie stars would kill for.
Quote from: Sarah on March 11, 2015, 03:13:43 PM
Hi Tegan :) love the red lips and black hair you look really sexy.
BTW really don't think you ever need to go guy mode. You are definitely a pass. Your first picture is so cute! Love how you have your hair and took the pic you look amazing girl! Be proud of who you are; your beautiful and it only gets better with time. ♡
Hugs
Sez
Aw, thanks Sarah!
I'm digging your profile pic-very pretty.
Yeah, I still have to keep guy-mode up at work until the Summer, so...
What did you mean by the way that you "like the way I took the picture?" Just curious.
Anyway, hugs back atcha!
-Teg
Quote from: Alyssa Rae on March 11, 2015, 06:49:23 PM
You're looking great! I'd say pass for sure. Guy mode for you is androgynous at worst. Still look like a girl! That's a great thing. :D
Aly,
Androgynous at worst, huh? Don't tell me I've contracted a bad case of "girl face"! Lol. Actually do-please do. ;D
Am I going to be skirting male fail, you think, by about June?
-Teg ???
Quote from: Lyric on March 12, 2015, 12:01:26 PM
I think you've got it going, girl. If this is really your thing, you'll do fine. You've got legs some movie stars would kill for.
Yo! thanks for those words!, it made me smile :3
I'll bite, not yet started HRT, a few months in of laser. I'd love to hear some feedback, I'm sure there's more I can do, still learning my way around a makeup cabinet. Sorry about the lack of smile!
I'm just amazed at how great so many of the people in this thread look, you're all pretty awesome.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm27%2FCelKristen%2F1077_zpsijy7wr9w.jpg&hash=456169bef63bcd022fd25f6594aff1cbf07b2597) (http://s292.photobucket.com/user/CelKristen/media/1077_zpsijy7wr9w.jpg.html)
--Kristen
My avatar? Do I look feminine?
I can say this, I pass in real life. Even in the lady's room. But, do I really? Let me know.. be honest!
Quote from: Cel on March 12, 2015, 11:33:34 PM
I'll bite, not yet started HRT, a few months in of laser. I'd love to hear some feedback, I'm sure there's more I can do, still learning my way around a makeup cabinet. Sorry about the lack of smile!
--Kristen
Thumbs up... I think you pass
Quote from: Alexis2107 on March 12, 2015, 11:57:03 PM
My avatar? Do I look feminine?
I can say this, I pass in real life. Even in the lady's room. But, do I really? Let me know.. be honest!
Based on your avatar pic, I think you're looking great! Everything about it says woman to me.
Quote from: Alexis2107 on March 12, 2015, 11:57:50 PM
Thumbs up... I think you pass
you look great!, dont worry about it
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on March 12, 2015, 01:47:46 PM
Aw, thanks Sarah!
I'm digging your profile pic-very pretty.
Yeah, I still have to keep guy-mode up at work until the Summer, so...
What did you mean by the way that you "like the way I took the picture?" Just curious.
Anyway, hugs back atcha!
-Teg
Hey Tegan
What i mean by the way you took it. Is the angle of the shot is a very flattering way to take it. It emphasises certain features while masking others (ie it makes your face and particularly your eyes pop whilst minimizing your neck since you can't really see it, plus it makes your cheeks look amazing giving you really strong cheekbones).
Hope that explains what i mean. Thanks, I love the dress and have recently bought a few more. Thats unfortunate about the work stuff. Does your boss know? Are they supportive? But it shouldn't be too long now till summer (unless your here in Aus like me :D )
Hugs
Sez
Quote from: Cel on March 12, 2015, 11:33:34 PM
I'll bite, not yet started HRT, a few months in of laser. I'd love to hear some feedback, I'm sure there's more I can do, still learning my way around a makeup cabinet. Sorry about the lack of smile!
I'm just amazed at how great so many of the people in this thread look, you're all pretty awesome.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm27%2FCelKristen%2F1077_zpsijy7wr9w.jpg&hash=456169bef63bcd022fd25f6594aff1cbf07b2597) (http://s292.photobucket.com/user/CelKristen/media/1077_zpsijy7wr9w.jpg.html)
--Kristen
You could pass as a double for one of my best female friends! Looking great. Wanna date? ;D
Seriously though ladies, I'd be proud to have any of you on my arm for an evening's adventure.
New Hair <3 1 month on HRT
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F14xfqkg.jpg&hash=b63253781d1c1aec12de2dee8d6d44a0128b4bf7)
This is a front picture instead, I hate my chin so much is too square >.< can't wait for when I get enough money for ffs (probably in 10 years)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F290u3pv.jpg&hash=1187e72e0a4a7f89bee968530b0881f670a5ecac)
Quote from: LoriLorenz on March 13, 2015, 01:39:44 AM
You could pass as a double for one of my best female friends! Looking great. Wanna date? ;D
Seriously though ladies, I'd be proud to have any of you on my arm for an evening's adventure.
Ladies. We've been stalked. LOL jk :D <3
Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 13, 2015, 07:07:26 AM
New Hair <3 1 month on HRT
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F14xfqkg.jpg&hash=b63253781d1c1aec12de2dee8d6d44a0128b4bf7)
Hey Serena. Love the new hair. That lipstick is super bright! I want that bow! lol
Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 13, 2015, 07:07:26 AM
New Hair <3 1 month on HRT
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F14xfqkg.jpg&hash=b63253781d1c1aec12de2dee8d6d44a0128b4bf7)
Looking great! That 8 bit bow is ADORABLE!
Alrighty, so I've decided this time around, I would post a no makeup pic, as well as some other features. im kind of embarrassed, especially since you can see the bottom of my heart surgery scar in the second one, but here goes nothing.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsmqxstmib.jpg&hash=11c40620bbf12cea9af57abc2f671ac7d72a5705) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsmqxstmib.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpso4nfpqoh.jpg&hash=460142286af42c6c1c7c8a03bcd4bf12e83eb1a5) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpso4nfpqoh.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps9giq5ecc.jpg&hash=c3ac7700285e693c858aab71192f5cc9ae76a915) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps9giq5ecc.jpg.html)
Super embarrassed :embarrassed:
Quote from: Alyssa Rae on March 13, 2015, 07:26:31 AM
Alrighty, so I've decided this time around, I would post a no makeup pic, as well as some other features. im kind of embarrassed, especially since you can see the bottom of my heart surgery scar in the second one, but here goes nothing.
Super embarrassed :embarrassed:
Oh god girl. You are hot in these pics. Scars just tell stories about where we've been. I don't see any reason for you to be embarrassed; you look this gorgeous without makeup?? I'm total jelous over your body. *looks up local gym membership* And what is up with that cute pink bra you're teasing me with? *drool* :D *HUGS*
I got new glasses!
Also, I hit 5 Months!
Yay or nay? :\
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi18.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb101%2Ftrinirich2006%2FIMG_20150313_171843529_HDR_zps8vxzsne3.jpg&hash=97c93eadedfa7210913a37f74832d62c2a0e8163)
Quote from: Trini on March 13, 2015, 08:44:57 PM
I got new glasses!
Also, I hit 5 Months!
Yay or nay? :\
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi18.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb101%2Ftrinirich2006%2FIMG_20150313_171843529_HDR_zps8vxzsne3.jpg&hash=97c93eadedfa7210913a37f74832d62c2a0e8163)
Definite yay on the glasses, Trini. :)
Looking good.
Cheers,
Teg
Quote from: Rotika on March 13, 2015, 07:11:32 AM
Ladies. We've been stalked. LOL jk :D <3
Woops!
*shuffles off in his bush costume*
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/35/07/71/350771c5d455e638f6d6699211939fc6.jpg)
;D :laugh:
Quote from: LoriLorenz on March 14, 2015, 01:35:54 AM
Quote from: Rotika on March 13, 2015, 07:11:32 AM
Ladies. We've been stalked. LOL jk :D <3
Woops!
*shuffles off in his bush costume*
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/35/07/71/350771c5d455e638f6d6699211939fc6.jpg)
;D :laugh:
I know that bush! It has been following me all day :laugh:
So I'm not trying to garner pity "you pass!"es lol! But I just got back from my grandma's funeral when I took these so that's why I look so ecstatic... Anyway the lighting is super flattering here even though I have beard shadow, I wiped some makeup off after crying.. anyway....
Oh and I'm trying to feature my tarantula earrings in the profile shot.. so check those blurry bad boys out!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Fnoteven.jpg&hash=10a88fd07a2e74bf315bc3a6302bf65378e7a816) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/noteven.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Fmawdel.jpg&hash=f686f2f6e438ea66636bc47c87597e4524de0a14) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/mawdel.jpg.html)
Quote from: Alyssa Rae on March 13, 2015, 07:26:31 AM
Alrighty, so I've decided this time around, I would post a no makeup pic, as well as some other features. im kind of embarrassed, especially since you can see the bottom of my heart surgery scar in the second one, but here goes nothing.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsmqxstmib.jpg&hash=11c40620bbf12cea9af57abc2f671ac7d72a5705) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsmqxstmib.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpso4nfpqoh.jpg&hash=460142286af42c6c1c7c8a03bcd4bf12e83eb1a5) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpso4nfpqoh.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps9giq5ecc.jpg&hash=c3ac7700285e693c858aab71192f5cc9ae76a915) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps9giq5ecc.jpg.html)
Super embarrassed :embarrassed:
Wow!
Don't be embarrassed, no need too :-*
L Katy
Quote from: Damara on March 15, 2015, 09:53:52 PM
So I'm not trying to garner pity "you pass!"es lol! But I just got back from my grandma's funeral when I took these so that's why I look so ecstatic... Anyway the lighting is super flattering here even though I have beard shadow, I wiped some makeup off after crying.. anyway....
Oh and I'm trying to feature my tarantula earrings in the profile shot.. so check those blurry bad boys out!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Fnoteven.jpg&hash=10a88fd07a2e74bf315bc3a6302bf65378e7a816) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/noteven.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Fmawdel.jpg&hash=f686f2f6e438ea66636bc47c87597e4524de0a14) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/mawdel.jpg.html)
Condolences honey :-*
Love the earrings, and no, didn't notice the loss of makeup.... xoxo
L Katy
Quote from: Damara on March 15, 2015, 09:53:52 PM
So I'm not trying to garner pity "you pass!"es lol! But I just got back from my grandma's funeral when I took these so that's why I look so ecstatic... Anyway the lighting is super flattering here even though I have beard shadow, I wiped some makeup off after crying.. anyway....
Oh and I'm trying to feature my tarantula earrings in the profile shot.. so check those blurry bad boys out!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Fnoteven.jpg&hash=10a88fd07a2e74bf315bc3a6302bf65378e7a816) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/noteven.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Fmawdel.jpg&hash=f686f2f6e438ea66636bc47c87597e4524de0a14) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/mawdel.jpg.html)
from these angles and lighting i think you pass. Your hair is beautiful and full and frames your face really nice.
I just started making updates on my hrt journey again, just posting this if anyone is interested! ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pwRxi4NqLk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pwRxi4NqLk)
Okay, its been a while since I've been here and been off of HRT for a few months due to marital reasons. I had a wig when i was on HRT but done away with is since I'm currently growing my hair out.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F10pn05f.jpg&hash=d5a961a6554c0fa89af6f05424bac5258bb1eddf)
And here's how I looked a back at the end of January with my horrible hair and no makeup. Could I pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F64l9o6.jpg&hash=433b5955f2eb5f5511ae2076be8382fab4132f58)
Could I pass?
Quote from: naomi599 on March 16, 2015, 12:59:58 PM
Okay, its been a while since I've been here and been off of HRT for a few months due to marital reasons. I had a wig when i was on HRT but done away with is since I'm currently growing my hair out.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F10pn05f.jpg&hash=d5a961a6554c0fa89af6f05424bac5258bb1eddf)
And here's how I looked a back at the end of January with my horrible hair and no makeup. Could I pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F64l9o6.jpg&hash=433b5955f2eb5f5511ae2076be8382fab4132f58)
Could I pass?
Absolutely, I think you should be posting the other thread for fabulous gals instead!
Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 16, 2015, 12:35:11 PM
I just started making updates on my hrt journey again, just posting this if anyone is interested! ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pwRxi4NqLk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pwRxi4NqLk)
congrats girl! I'm glad you could start back up again!
Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 16, 2015, 01:29:06 PM
Absolutely, I think you should be posting the other thread for fabulous gals instead!
Thank you! I also see that you should be in the other thread as well!
Quote from: naomi599 on March 16, 2015, 12:59:58 PM
Okay, its been a while since I've been here and been off of HRT for a few months due to marital reasons. I had a wig when i was on HRT but done away with is since I'm currently growing my hair out.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F10pn05f.jpg&hash=d5a961a6554c0fa89af6f05424bac5258bb1eddf)
And here's how I looked a back at the end of January with my horrible hair and no makeup. Could I pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F64l9o6.jpg&hash=433b5955f2eb5f5511ae2076be8382fab4132f58)
Could I pass?
Awwww! I got the same Mickey Mouse pyjama <3!
PS: Sure u could pass, quite soft facial features indeed.
Ok, so here's me for the first time. About 1 1/2 months HRT. :D No makeup. :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2F20150316_150812_zps9crrdpen.jpg&hash=ad44588aef269e0b90a07ebaaf727f7dda171cca)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2F20150316_150857_zpsnmo1bcsn.jpg&hash=d8d00b028b6814b0c105938fec25d58767d63099)
Quote from: findingreason on March 16, 2015, 10:07:04 PM
Ok, so here's me for the first time. About 1 1/2 months HRT. :D No makeup. :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2F20150316_150812_zps9crrdpen.jpg&hash=ad44588aef269e0b90a07ebaaf727f7dda171cca)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2F20150316_150857_zpsnmo1bcsn.jpg&hash=d8d00b028b6814b0c105938fec25d58767d63099)
Almost! Using a little bit of makeup to let the skin more uniform and disguise the nose, i guess you would pass! :)
Hi! I posted here before when I had mascara, lipstick and a wig. To ask if I ever would pass.
I have now been on HTR for a month. This is how I look now - naturally. Do you guys think I ever will pass? Based on the face in these pictures.
I'm 5"10 and 120LB (55 kilos).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F35jlapk.jpg&hash=62e7adb6df8feead1eed250caf352af5fa5d647c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Feg7c49.png&hash=737165d904f677a81c739ad690a385b9bf3d8975)
Quote from: SwedenMtf on March 17, 2015, 12:54:14 PM
Hi! I posted here before when I had mascara, lipstick and a wig. To ask if I ever would pass.
I have now been on HTR for a month. This is how I look now - naturally. Do you guys think I ever will pass? Based on the face in these pictures.
I'm 5"10 and 120LB (55 kilos).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F35jlapk.jpg&hash=62e7adb6df8feead1eed250caf352af5fa5d647c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Feg7c49.png&hash=737165d904f677a81c739ad690a385b9bf3d8975)
The short hair would make me take an extra second to consider, but Definitely a pass from the FtM perspective!
I like coming and checking yu ladies out, because it confirms how I feel about my photos. I like and when I was supposed to see a girl I always hated my pics, but seeing a guy in them now, I'm a happy camper! Thanks for boosting my confidence!
Quote from: LoriLorenz on March 18, 2015, 02:22:53 AM
The short hair would make me take an extra second to consider, but Definitely a pass from the FtM perspective!
I like coming and checking yu ladies out, because it confirms how I feel about my photos. I like and when I was supposed to see a girl I always hated my pics, but seeing a guy in them now, I'm a happy camper! Thanks for boosting my confidence!
Haha so you're saying I look like a girl, wanting to be a guy? :o
.. In that case I've failed haha
Quote from: SwedenMtf on March 17, 2015, 12:54:14 PM
Hi! I posted here before when I had mascara, lipstick and a wig. To ask if I ever would pass.
I have now been on HTR for a month. This is how I look now - naturally. Do you guys think I ever will pass? Based on the face in these pictures.
I'm 5"10 and 120LB (55 kilos).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F35jlapk.jpg&hash=62e7adb6df8feead1eed250caf352af5fa5d647c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Feg7c49.png&hash=737165d904f677a81c739ad690a385b9bf3d8975)
Sweden, even with short hair you and very little makeup look very feminine! Im so jelly!!! Pass in my book!
Quote from: findingreason on March 16, 2015, 10:07:04 PM
Ok, so here's me for the first time. About 1 1/2 months HRT. :D No makeup. :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2F20150316_150812_zps9crrdpen.jpg&hash=ad44588aef269e0b90a07ebaaf727f7dda171cca)
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I think you have a lot of potential!
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 18, 2015, 11:32:45 AM
I think you have a lot of potential!
Thank you! I think so too. Being fluid in gender, I'm embracing that I have quite a....flexible appearance. I wanted to give a raw, no makeup shot just for some critique on the raw "shape" of my face and how I look. And this looks soooo different from what I looked like before transition. :) (I used to go unshaved at periods, my upper body looked more masculine, etc etc)
Bed selfie...
Hrt for a few years...some ffs and grs coming up in August..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh619%2Fnataliespictures1%2F93647622-6DDC-47E2-A4CC-16A9C8C63DD4_zps9ppvxnrm.jpg&hash=19216a093f20f6d1ab35ce5d359e6df759ec0f5c) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/nataliespictures1/media/93647622-6DDC-47E2-A4CC-16A9C8C63DD4_zps9ppvxnrm.jpg.html)
Isabelle, maybe it's just me, but I think you pass right now. Based on this photo, I wouldn't clock you. You look beautiful. [emoji2] Good luck on your surgery!
I pass as cis most of the time I think...still, I want my nose and chin changed :) thank you
Quote from: SwedenMtf on March 18, 2015, 06:10:56 AM
Haha so you're saying I look like a girl, wanting to be a guy? :o
.. In that case I've failed haha
LOL No. Sorry! You pass, maybe it's just being in these forums that makes me a bit extra critical? Just for passability, a longer hairstyle helps a LOT. It was the one thing that I kept for a long time because I
*was* supposed to
*be* a girl so I
*should* have long hair!
Quote from: Isabelle on March 19, 2015, 04:32:29 AM
Bed selfie...
Hrt for a few years...some ffs and grs coming up in August..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh619%2Fnataliespictures1%2F93647622-6DDC-47E2-A4CC-16A9C8C63DD4_zps9ppvxnrm.jpg&hash=19216a093f20f6d1ab35ce5d359e6df759ec0f5c) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/nataliespictures1/media/93647622-6DDC-47E2-A4CC-16A9C8C63DD4_zps9ppvxnrm.jpg.html)
definitely pass, i see why you want the FFS, and i think you will look even better but definitely not needed!!
It doesn't show well in that picture cause of the flash but I have quite a bad cleft chin. I'm not totally against cleft chins, I think they can be cute. I don't "need" ffs, I can live with how I look, I don't often get read and if I do, I'm lucky enough to live in a pretty ok part of the world for trans people comparatively speaking but, I'd like it. I'm having feminising reduction of my nose and cleft repair and reduction on my chin. My hairline is fine and I'm terrified of the forehead surgery... None of that business for me.. Having the surgeries done at the same time as grs... I imagine I'm going I have a pretty horrible couple of weeks but, is rather it was all
done at once... I'm not brave enough for multiple surgery
Quote from: Isabelle on March 19, 2015, 04:32:29 AM
Bed selfie...
Hrt for a few years...some ffs and grs coming up in August..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh619%2Fnataliespictures1%2F93647622-6DDC-47E2-A4CC-16A9C8C63DD4_zps9ppvxnrm.jpg&hash=19216a093f20f6d1ab35ce5d359e6df759ec0f5c) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/nataliespictures1/media/93647622-6DDC-47E2-A4CC-16A9C8C63DD4_zps9ppvxnrm.jpg.html)
Total pass hun, you look adorable :)
Quote from: Isabelle on March 19, 2015, 04:32:29 AM
Bed selfie...
Hrt for a few years...some ffs and grs coming up in August..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh619%2Fnataliespictures1%2F93647622-6DDC-47E2-A4CC-16A9C8C63DD4_zps9ppvxnrm.jpg&hash=19216a093f20f6d1ab35ce5d359e6df759ec0f5c) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/nataliespictures1/media/93647622-6DDC-47E2-A4CC-16A9C8C63DD4_zps9ppvxnrm.jpg.html)
I can't see male anywhere in that pic and believe me I tried.
Pass 1000%
Quote from: Isabelle on March 19, 2015, 04:32:29 AM
Bed selfie...
Hrt for a few years...some ffs and grs coming up in August..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh619%2Fnataliespictures1%2F93647622-6DDC-47E2-A4CC-16A9C8C63DD4_zps9ppvxnrm.jpg&hash=19216a093f20f6d1ab35ce5d359e6df759ec0f5c) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/nataliespictures1/media/93647622-6DDC-47E2-A4CC-16A9C8C63DD4_zps9ppvxnrm.jpg.html)
you are very pretty i think yuy have had great results so far. good luck with your surgeries!
Quote from: Isabelle on March 19, 2015, 04:32:29 AM
Bed selfie...
Hrt for a few years...some ffs and grs coming up in August..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh619%2Fnataliespictures1%2F93647622-6DDC-47E2-A4CC-16A9C8C63DD4_zps9ppvxnrm.jpg&hash=19216a093f20f6d1ab35ce5d359e6df759ec0f5c) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/nataliespictures1/media/93647622-6DDC-47E2-A4CC-16A9C8C63DD4_zps9ppvxnrm.jpg.html)
I hate my chin and nose too, can definitely relate to that, I think you look gorgeous anyway!
Quote from: Isabelle on March 19, 2015, 04:32:29 AM
Bed selfie...
Hrt for a few years...some ffs and grs coming up in August..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh619%2Fnataliespictures1%2F93647622-6DDC-47E2-A4CC-16A9C8C63DD4_zps9ppvxnrm.jpg&hash=19216a093f20f6d1ab35ce5d359e6df759ec0f5c) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/nataliespictures1/media/93647622-6DDC-47E2-A4CC-16A9C8C63DD4_zps9ppvxnrm.jpg.html)
One word...........Beautiful
Quote from: findingreason on March 16, 2015, 10:07:04 PM
Ok, so here's me for the first time. About 1 1/2 months HRT. :D No makeup. :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2F20150316_150812_zps9crrdpen.jpg&hash=ad44588aef269e0b90a07ebaaf727f7dda171cca)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2F20150316_150857_zpsnmo1bcsn.jpg&hash=d8d00b028b6814b0c105938fec25d58767d63099)
Great start.
Quote from: SwedenMtf on March 17, 2015, 12:54:14 PM
Hi! I posted here before when I had mascara, lipstick and a wig. To ask if I ever would pass.
I have now been on HTR for a month. This is how I look now - naturally. Do you guys think I ever will pass? Based on the face in these pictures.
I'm 5"10 and 120LB (55 kilos).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F35jlapk.jpg&hash=62e7adb6df8feead1eed250caf352af5fa5d647c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Feg7c49.png&hash=737165d904f677a81c739ad690a385b9bf3d8975)
Yes you will pass with flying colors :-)
SwedenMtF...
I think Scandinavians are the some of the most beautiful people on the planet. You're no exception. Your face is already very androgynous, a year on HRT, you're going to be even more stunning...Your weight to height ratio is a bit of a worry though... For the HRT to work, you need to have something for it to work on. You're too light at the moment and you BMI is too low. Eat some delicious European chocolate :D
Ok, beautiful folks. I've lost about 20 pounds or so since I first uploaded a picture (right after I joined). A lot of the brutish features I didn't like I think were due to my weight. I'm still pre-HRT so I know a lot will change (going to get electrolysis, as well). I've already decided to use it as my avatar but here it is, anyway.
What effects do you think HRT will have on my jaw/chin area? Just filling it out would be handy maybe. In your experiences with HRT, does a lot of the sharper testosterone-poisoned edges smooth out beyond just the cheeks?
Is there hope?
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-F2Qy5cBAKns/VQsdJf0qwcI/AAAAAAAAMxM/S6AsMOxeEQo/w360-h480-no/res_1426791396798.jpg)
Abysha,
You have lovely eyes. HRT will (not for sure but probably) soften a lot of your features. It will change the texture of your skin, soften your jawline, fill your cheeks into a more feminine shape. Nothing is for sure but, I think you'll have really nice results after a few years. A lot of people see result earlier but, realistically hrt takes a few years to really make a big difference. Lighten your lip colour. Darker colour works great on some face shapes, on others it adds "weight" visually and can draw attention to discolouration caused by sub dermal hairs (beard shadow)
Abysha, you have a pretty decent start. Shape the brows and see what that does for you.
^^^this
Eyebrow threading changes lives. True fact.
Thanks for the feedback. Threading the brows is actually lined up so that's good to hear. ;)
Quote from: Isabelle on March 19, 2015, 06:07:27 PM
SwedenMtF...
I think Scandinavians are the some of the most beautiful people on the planet. You're no exception. Your face is already very androgynous, a year on HRT, you're going to be even more stunning...Your weight to height ratio is a bit of a worry though... For the HRT to work, you need to have something for it to work on. You're too light at the moment and you BMI is too low. Eat some delicious European chocolate :D
Thank you so much for the kind words Isabella. I know my weight is a problem due to the fat distribution.. there's basically no fat to distribute differently.. But since I started hormones a month ago, I've been feeling more hungry so hopefully I gain some weight!
fat redistribution doesnt actually move any fat that you have on ur body. you just gain weight in new areas. so sweeden its actually good to start out skinny because it is common to gain weight after hrt. so i really wouldnt worry about it to much.
Quote from: SwedenMtf on March 20, 2015, 03:44:08 AM
Thank you so much for the kind words Isabella. I know my weight is a problem due to the fat distribution.. there's basically no fat to distribute differently.. But since I started hormones a month ago, I've been feeling more hungry so hopefully I gain some weight!
I've been doing everything I can to pass better-I'm trying to grow my hair out, I've gained a few pounds to widen my figure, but I feel like now I'm looking even more masculine than ever.
I've sorta come to the conclusion that if I'm never going to pass, perhaps I'm not emotionally prepared to continue living authentically. I mean, I have no friends, virtually no support, and if I can't pass, things are going to continue to be harder than I want to deal with. My relationship prospects, my potential for a career, all of it will go out the window if people are able to tell. I can't deal with our transphobic culture right now, and it's driving me literally insane. So, I've realized that if I am never going to pass for cis, I'm going to seriously consider going back. I feel like my face is getting even more masculine as time goes on. So, please, I beg of you-be honest. Please, be brutally honest. The amount of dishonesty I've seen on this thread is troubling; I'm not looking for emotional support. I'm considering a major life decision, and I need FACTS if I'm going to make it correctly. I'm wearing light makeup in three of the four pictures; in the fully body one, my hair is wet. I'm six feet tall, very tall. Too tall.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F29FLjBG.jpg&hash=41a7511819a2f88368a12bf0116a26e0927bc05a)
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Again, please be honest. This time isn't about feeling good about myself, it's about weather or not I should detransition.
Going public round two...... I have my therapist appointment in a couple hours and again I'm shaking I'm so nervous because this time I'm in girl mode as much I can for now. I desperately need laser removal for my face and my eyebrows done. Beyond that am I at least okay?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe239%2Fgoldendragonlord%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpshaex4xmk.jpg&hash=06c3ee81bd552c52544bf294de111796093c9991) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/goldendragonlord/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpshaex4xmk.jpg.html)
Androgynous......
Actually looking very feminine already. The pics show a more female looking person to me. I can actually see your curves in the one pic. Six foot is tall, but women are sometimes tall too. If your clothes are very feminine, skirts, pink, lavender, stockings, it all screams female to people.
Your voice and your mannerisms could give you away, but if you have that going in the right direction, you will be fine. Patience is huge it takes time. Are you on hrt? It should keep rounding you and softening your features some, also as hair continues to grow, chest increases you will get more feminine as you go. Your already very skinny so no overly stud features like big arms or shoulders. I do think you can pass. Just remember turning back can't be from embarrassment or pressure from others, it has to be because you feel like your not a woman. If you are female inside, it will always be there, its hard to deny. Don't give up, try getting support locally from others near you, it could help. I hope my honestly helps you, I'm not trying to make you feel good, just trying to give you an honest opinion from your pics. If you do feel good I hope it's from support and love you get from the forum. The future can always be brighter. Hope this helps.
Love Stephee
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 20, 2015, 01:08:25 PM
I've been doing everything I can to pass better-I'm trying to grow my hair out, I've gained a few pounds to widen my figure, but I feel like now I'm looking even more masculine than ever.
I've sorta come to the conclusion that if I'm never going to pass, perhaps I'm not emotionally prepared to continue living authentically. I mean, I have no friends, virtually no support, and if I can't pass, things are going to continue to be harder than I want to deal with. My relationship prospects, my potential for a career, all of it will go out the window if people are able to tell. I can't deal with our transphobic culture right now, and it's driving me literally insane. So, I've realized that if I am never going to pass for cis, I'm going to seriously consider going back. I feel like my face is getting even more masculine as time goes on. So, please, I beg of you-be honest. Please, be brutally honest. The amount of dishonesty I've seen on this thread is troubling; I'm not looking for emotional support. I'm considering a major life decision, and I need FACTS if I'm going to make it correctly. I'm wearing light makeup in three of the four pictures; in the fully body one, my hair is wet. I'm six feet tall, very tall. Too tall.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F29FLjBG.jpg&hash=41a7511819a2f88368a12bf0116a26e0927bc05a)
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Again, please be honest. This time isn't about feeling good about myself, it's about weather or not I should detransition.
I think that you would need FFS to be able to achieve your goals, and maybe you would benefit from a higher dose of estrogen or maybe a different route of administration like pellet or patch for example. No one can tell you if you should detranstion or not, it's something that you have to decide for yourself. I detransitioned once, I changed my name back to my birthname, and cut my hair, which was extremely painful to do, but I remained on HRT, because my plan was to retransition again when I could do it successfully. And I did it! sometimes you need to take a step back in order to be able get to where you need to be.
Androgynous,
As no one can look like someone else but to relate a look to someone I would say I see some of the young Molly Ringwald meets Cyndi Lauper
That's my view,
Androgynous
I think with FFS you will unquestionably look female because you have an already androgynous starting point. This is a better starting place than a lot of us.
Your full body shot seems to show off a more squarish jaw and chin which the closeup pictures seem to hide a bit more(maybe its the angle ??)but maybe more time on HRT will soften that a but
It does read slightly more masculine to me, but you really have that high fashion supermodel androgynous look, which i think can allow you to go either way.
If it was solely based on how you look I would say you are ahead of the game and I wouldn't DE transition if I had your looks. We are all our own worst critique so I know how you feel. I'm on day two of HRT and I feel like I'm never going to pass. My only piece of hope is FFS and I may not even go full time until I can have the surgeries.
Quote from: Jasriella on March 20, 2015, 01:32:55 PM
Going public round two...... I have my therapist appointment in a couple hours and again I'm shaking I'm so nervous because this time I'm in girl mode as much I can for now. I desperately need laser removal for my face and my eyebrows done. Beyond that am I at least okay?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe239%2Fgoldendragonlord%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpshaex4xmk.jpg&hash=06c3ee81bd552c52544bf294de111796093c9991) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/goldendragonlord/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpshaex4xmk.jpg.html)
I think the wig and your beard shadow will bee a big tell if you are trying to pass.
try for natural hair and remove facial hair. These things take time though, so like me I have to be really patient to get my desired look.
Quote from: Jasriella on March 20, 2015, 01:32:55 PM
Going public round two...... I have my therapist appointment in a couple hours and again I'm shaking I'm so nervous because this time I'm in girl mode as much I can for now. I desperately need laser removal for my face and my eyebrows done. Beyond that am I at least okay?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe239%2Fgoldendragonlord%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpshaex4xmk.jpg&hash=06c3ee81bd552c52544bf294de111796093c9991) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/goldendragonlord/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpshaex4xmk.jpg.html)
Yeah, the beard needs to go. It totally gives you away. BUT, I think without the beard, you'll look great. You actually look like a gg friend of mine. Although you're probably taller. [emoji1] [emoji106]
Quote from: ChiGirl on March 20, 2015, 04:16:06 PM
Yeah, the beard needs to go. It totally gives you away. BUT, I think without the beard, you'll look great. You actually look like a gg friend of mine. Although you're probably taller. [emoji1] [emoji106]
Like I said I desperately need laser hair removal because THAT IS JUST SHAVED!!! Like literally 10 minute before I took the picture! It drives me insane because my facial hair is so thick, the hairs themselves are very visible even immediately after shaving in both directions and being completely smooth. And yeah, I'm 6'2" 220lbs. I do like the sweater with the shirt on me it's comfy and from neck down anyway who could tell right? Lol
Any suggestions on a budget friendly wig that would work for me? This one is wild and untamed....and been assaulted by a kitty a few times. The wig has gone FERAL!!!
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 20, 2015, 01:08:25 PM
Again, please be honest. This time isn't about feeling good about myself, it's about weather or not I should detransition.
Honey, you are asking for honest opinions.
IHMO, with HRT and some additional padding, you are going to be just killer. You have so many things going for you that you are discounting.
For example, your face has wonderful feminine curves and angles, your eyes are amazing, and your figure is really cute right now. I think you could model today.
I don't usually comment much in this thread, but I do think you have a lot to work with and you're being way too critical of yourself.
Hugs! :)
I've been on hrt for two years :(
And ffs. >-bleeped-<. I'm never going to see that much money in my life.
I decided I wanted to look pretty today. I hope I pass well enough. I've been on HRT for almost 6 months now.
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Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 20, 2015, 01:08:25 PM
I've been doing everything I can to pass better-I'm trying to grow my hair out, I've gained a few pounds to widen my figure, but I feel like now I'm looking even more masculine than ever.
I've sorta come to the conclusion that if I'm never going to pass, perhaps I'm not emotionally prepared to continue living authentically. I mean, I have no friends, virtually no support, and if I can't pass, things are going to continue to be harder than I want to deal with. My relationship prospects, my potential for a career, all of it will go out the window if people are able to tell. I can't deal with our transphobic culture right now, and it's driving me literally insane. So, I've realized that if I am never going to pass for cis, I'm going to seriously consider going back. I feel like my face is getting even more masculine as time goes on. So, please, I beg of you-be honest. Please, be brutally honest. The amount of dishonesty I've seen on this thread is troubling; I'm not looking for emotional support. I'm considering a major life decision, and I need FACTS if I'm going to make it correctly. I'm wearing light makeup in three of the four pictures; in the fully body one, my hair is wet. I'm six feet tall, very tall. Too tall.
Again, please be honest. This time isn't about feeling good about myself, it's about weather or not I should detransition.
Hi,
OK............
Being critical:
You have a high forehead and it hurts you in a couple pics. Work on your hair a little so that one does not see the forehead height. What you have done with the curls is good just keep it going and bring some of that around a little.
Makeup - find someone who's makeup you like and pattern from them. After a while, you can start to make it your own... That will help a lot!
Make your eyebrows a little thicker, especially toward the eye - bring them down to de-emphasize any forehead ridge. I don't actually think you have a big ridge, but he way you are doing the eye brows makes it look like you do.
You can help the squareness of the jaw with makeup and possible some mini-lipo. That's cheap so save a little.
The neutral stuff:
6' tall... I'm 6'2" and I get hit on by so many men that are 6'2" or taller that I had to by an engagement ring to wear with my wedding ring to keep some of them from hitting on me. It's not bad, not bad at all....
The good:
Eyes, nose, lips and figure are stupid good. Breasts are good for your figure.
Overall, I always thought you were cute. I liked the hair. You pass in picture 2 and 4 (starting with the top photo as 1) 1 and 3 show to much forehead.
Your awfully close to passing all the time.
Hugs,
Jen
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 20, 2015, 01:08:25 PM
I've been doing everything I can to pass better-I'm trying to grow my hair out, I've gained a few pounds to widen my figure, but I feel like now I'm looking even more masculine than ever.
I've sorta come to the conclusion that if I'm never going to pass, perhaps I'm not emotionally prepared to continue living authentically. I mean, I have no friends, virtually no support, and if I can't pass, things are going to continue to be harder than I want to deal with. My relationship prospects, my potential for a career, all of it will go out the window if people are able to tell. I can't deal with our transphobic culture right now, and it's driving me literally insane. So, I've realized that if I am never going to pass for cis, I'm going to seriously consider going back. I feel like my face is getting even more masculine as time goes on. So, please, I beg of you-be honest. Please, be brutally honest. The amount of dishonesty I've seen on this thread is troubling; I'm not looking for emotional support. I'm considering a major life decision, and I need FACTS if I'm going to make it correctly. I'm wearing light makeup in three of the four pictures; in the fully body one, my hair is wet. I'm six feet tall, very tall. Too tall.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F29FLjBG.jpg&hash=41a7511819a2f88368a12bf0116a26e0927bc05a)
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Again, please be honest. This time isn't about feeling good about myself, it's about weather or not I should detransition.
You look like a woman, and a really cute one at that :icon_love:
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 20, 2015, 01:08:25 PM
I've been doing everything I can to pass better-I'm trying to grow my hair out, I've gained a few pounds to widen my figure, but I feel like now I'm looking even more masculine than ever.
I've sorta come to the conclusion that if I'm never going to pass, perhaps I'm not emotionally prepared to continue living authentically. I mean, I have no friends, virtually no support, and if I can't pass, things are going to continue to be harder than I want to deal with. My relationship prospects, my potential for a career, all of it will go out the window if people are able to tell. I can't deal with our transphobic culture right now, and it's driving me literally insane. So, I've realized that if I am never going to pass for cis, I'm going to seriously consider going back. I feel like my face is getting even more masculine as time goes on. So, please, I beg of you-be honest. Please, be brutally honest. The amount of dishonesty I've seen on this thread is troubling; I'm not looking for emotional support. I'm considering a major life decision, and I need FACTS if I'm going to make it correctly. I'm wearing light makeup in three of the four pictures; in the fully body one, my hair is wet. I'm six feet tall, very tall. Too tall.
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Again, please be honest. This time isn't about feeling good about myself, it's about weather or not I should detransition.
Honest reply incoming. Do you have a sideways photo somewhere - and what specific features regarding passing are you unsure about?
It is difficult to tell stuff from pictures of course, but on the 1, 2 and 4 picture I would gender you as a female. On the third one... the hair does not really fit your face and the eyebrows are a bit messy. Perhaps another haircut would help? Get rid of the colours and try something more simple. Keep the curls though! Your body is very slim - especially your shoulders. You are tall, yes, but my sister is taller. It is more about proportions, and proportionally it doesn't look like a masculine body to me.
Your face (I think faces are most important) does not really have masculine features. Nose is pretty slim, eyes are fine... can't spot beardshadow (which would be a HUGE giveaway). No big Adam's apple either. Your browridge seems slightly more pronounced than most born women, but that shouldn't give anything away if everything else is feminine. I mean, basically every face has masculine and feminine characteristics. Have you ever talked to doctors about your passability, and have they said anything about certain (facial) features?
QuoteMy relationship prospects, my potential for a career, all of it will go out the window if people are able to tell.
Are you sure?
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 20, 2015, 01:08:25 PM
Again, please be honest. This time isn't about feeling good about myself, it's about weather or not I should detransition.
Since you are expecting sugar coating, it's hard to tell you my honest opinion without you thinking I'm just being nice. Honestly, I wouldn't think twice nor would you set off any alarms. Your hair is really the only thing "off" about you but it's not even a masculine thing, just different. The only reason I (and probably nearly everybody you come across) would probably ever question your gender is if you asked them to. You're a cute girl to everybody else, I'd imagine.
Sorry if that's not brutal enough for you but it is honest. I swear.
Quote from: Eevee on March 20, 2015, 05:00:21 PM
I decided I wanted to look pretty today. I hope I pass well enough. I've been on HRT for almost 6 months now.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgVXWbgt.jpg&hash=1b5fb18625e3d1456576818301a2a9e1dc03c738)
You look great, keep doing what you're doing :)
Quote from: CB on March 20, 2015, 07:01:40 PM
I am actually a very photo phobic person so will probably regret this!
However, here goes...
These were taken last spring, at just over one year HRT. Haven't dare be photographed since then but hopefully some more changes
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You're looking great at one year. I'd like to see what you look like now 2 years in.
You ladies are beautiful. :)
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 20, 2015, 01:08:25 PM
I've been doing everything I can to pass better-I'm trying to grow my hair out, I've gained a few pounds to widen my figure, but I feel like now I'm looking even more masculine than ever.
I've sorta come to the conclusion that if I'm never going to pass, perhaps I'm not emotionally prepared to continue living authentically. I mean, I have no friends, virtually no support, and if I can't pass, things are going to continue to be harder than I want to deal with. My relationship prospects, my potential for a career, all of it will go out the window if people are able to tell. I can't deal with our transphobic culture right now, and it's driving me literally insane. So, I've realized that if I am never going to pass for cis, I'm going to seriously consider going back. I feel like my face is getting even more masculine as time goes on. So, please, I beg of you-be honest. Please, be brutally honest. The amount of dishonesty I've seen on this thread is troubling; I'm not looking for emotional support. I'm considering a major life decision, and I need FACTS if I'm going to make it correctly. I'm wearing light makeup in three of the four pictures; in the fully body one, my hair is wet. I'm six feet tall, very tall. Too tall.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F29FLjBG.jpg&hash=41a7511819a2f88368a12bf0116a26e0927bc05a)
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Again, please be honest. This time isn't about feeling good about myself, it's about weather or not I should detransition.
You seem to have a super feminine figure! I am unsure if that is due to clothing illusion but your waist looks small and your hips look to be in a female range of width in proportion to your upper body. your face has no terribly glaringly male traits, chin is slightly wider than what some women would have but overall your features are in, at least to me, a female range of proportion.. oh and your hands look small and delicate.. I think the main attention grab, as others have stated, is your hair, and that can be dealt with as time goes by. :)
Quote from: Eevee on March 20, 2015, 05:00:21 PM
I decided I wanted to look pretty today. I hope I pass well enough. I've been on HRT for almost 6 months now.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgVXWbgt.jpg&hash=1b5fb18625e3d1456576818301a2a9e1dc03c738)
You succeed! You look very pretty.
I'm hoping this link will work because for some reason I can't post any pics from my phone, you will have to just scroll down a bit to see the two pictures I believe.
Anyways this is me, no hormones yet but I'm 3 laser hair removals in which is working quite well so far. Going to be starting HRT in May, which I'm beyond excited for, to really get to start my journey.
Let me know what you all think [emoji4]
http://therealmemskylie.tumblr.com/post/114188077777/tried-on-a-new-dress-tonight-feeling-good
Quote from: TheRealMeMsKylie on March 21, 2015, 07:55:54 AM
Anyways this is me, no hormones yet but I'm 3 laser hair removals in which is working quite well so far. Going to be starting HRT in May, which I'm beyond excited for, to really get to start my journey.
Let me know what you all think [emoji4]
Very nice. Its good that you are going after the hair removal early. I believe that HRT will suit you well.
Good Luck and enjoy the ride.
Quote from: TheRealMeMsKylie on March 21, 2015, 07:55:54 AM
I'm hoping this link will work because for some reason I can't post any pics from my phone, you will have to just scroll down a bit to see the two pictures I believe.
Anyways this is me, no hormones yet but I'm 3 laser hair removals in which is working quite well so far. Going to be starting HRT in May, which I'm beyond excited for, to really get to start my journey.
Let me know what you all think [emoji4]
http://therealmemskylie.tumblr.com/post/114188077777/tried-on-a-new-dress-tonight-feeling-good
OMG...Your beautiful.
Hugs
Jen
Kylie, you are stunning.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 20, 2015, 01:08:25 PM
Again, please be honest. This time isn't about feeling good about myself, it's about weather or not I should detransition.
Generally I think you look good.
Your body is your biggest asset.
Things working against you seem to be your chin and possibly your hairline.
Obviously I don't think you should detransition, but I would strongly consider finding some means to get FFS if your face bothers you that much. At least some "light" FFS. Right now it would pass with me and many other people but I know you will probably never be satisfied with it.
The hairstyle can also make a big difference. I see you with that same hairstyle a lot. Have you gone to a hair stylist or even asked friends for help?
Quote from: TheRealMeMsKylie on March 21, 2015, 07:55:54 AM
I'm hoping this link will work because for some reason I can't post any pics from my phone, you will have to just scroll down a bit to see the two pictures I believe.
Anyways this is me, no hormones yet but I'm 3 laser hair removals in which is working quite well so far. Going to be starting HRT in May, which I'm beyond excited for, to really get to start my journey.
Let me know what you all think [emoji4]
http://therealmemskylie.tumblr.com/post/114188077777/tried-on-a-new-dress-tonight-feeling-good
Looking good!
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 20, 2015, 01:08:25 PM
I've been doing everything I can to pass better-I'm trying to grow my hair out, I've gained a few pounds to widen my figure, but I feel like now I'm looking even more masculine than ever.
I've sorta come to the conclusion that if I'm never going to pass, perhaps I'm not emotionally prepared to continue living authentically. I mean, I have no friends, virtually no support, and if I can't pass, things are going to continue to be harder than I want to deal with. My relationship prospects, my potential for a career, all of it will go out the window if people are able to tell. I can't deal with our transphobic culture right now, and it's driving me literally insane. So, I've realized that if I am never going to pass for cis, I'm going to seriously consider going back. I feel like my face is getting even more masculine as time goes on. So, please, I beg of you-be honest. Please, be brutally honest. The amount of dishonesty I've seen on this thread is troubling; I'm not looking for emotional support. I'm considering a major life decision, and I need FACTS if I'm going to make it correctly. I'm wearing light makeup in three of the four pictures; in the fully body one, my hair is wet. I'm six feet tall, very tall. Too tall.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F29FLjBG.jpg&hash=41a7511819a2f88368a12bf0116a26e0927bc05a)
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Again, please be honest. This time isn't about feeling good about myself, it's about weather or not I should detransition.
I have to admit that I am having a hard time in trying to figure out how to respond. It's not just because of this post but on the totality of what you have been posting recently. You say that you need facts and not emotional support. However, it's clear you need both. What I see when I look at your pictures is a lot of insecurity and unhappiness. I am fairly new to the transition world but not so to life and I can tell you that in most interactions with the world, self confidence is key to success. In my world, I am a trial lawyer, if you can't display confidence you are dead meat. Man or woman it doesn't matter, if you don't appear confident to the world you will not get the response you are looking for.
The one thing you need to work on more than anything is attitude and confidence. If you are looking for perfection, good luck honey cause you are never going to find it and you will never be happy. I see a reoccurring theme in your posts that you feel that you don't now and never will pass for CIS and if you can't your a failure. Now I don't know if you will or not in the future but if you use that as your standard now it's no wonder you feel bad. I know that you have been on HRT for a couple of years now but how confident are you that your Endo has got your regime down correctly? You also appear have some other psychological issues, as a lot of us do, that may need attention that can help to make you feel better and allow you to develop friendships and build a better support system.
No one knows what the future holds. For years I was afraid to address my issues so I operated on auto pilot and repressed my true self and was, what I thought to be, the model husband, father and employee. I couldn't get out of my terrible marriage because it would devastate the kids and I would be financially ruined for life. I couldn't adress my gender issues because it was sick and dirty to want to be who I felt I was. It got so bad that I would pray at night to have a heart attack and die so that I would not have to face my reality.
8 years ago God answered my prayer. I was driving home from work at 70 mph when I started having chest pains. I believed I was having a heart attack and my system reacted by slowing down my heart and droping my blood pressure to almost zero. When that happens, blood is no longer able to get to your brain and witin seconds you pass out. Not a good thing to do at 70 mph on a Southern California freeway towards the end of rush hour. When I woke up I was in a wrecked car that was a total loss. No one else was hit as I played pinball with the various center dividers and walls of the freeway. I wasn't killed and I wasn't having a heart attack. But God was telling me something.
Now 8 years later I am divorced, my kids are thriving and happy for the most part, and I have never been this financially sound. I am telling you this because what we frequently tell ourselves is just plain wrong. How do you know if you won't be able to afford FSS in the future? The correct answer is
you don't know. There may be changes in insurance coveraage so that it is manditatory as part of the transition process that these proceedures be covered. You many find you develop a talent that is in high demand and will bring you great wealth. You may find a lotto ticket on the ground that is worth enough to cover the cost. In short, you need to worry less about what the future holds and concentrate on living now.
You are very pretty and I would so kill to be able to have your body shape. I am 6'2" and currently weigh 215. There is now way I am going to look CIS. So I have to be realistic and know that I can do what I can and let the rest happen. Even though I have no idea what I will look like in 2 mos, 6 mos, 1 year, 3 years or 6 years I can't let those doubts control who I am right now. You shouldn't let your doubts control you.
I have spent the last couple of weeks speaking to friends, family and people at work letting them know about my transition status. The reactions have been all over the board from you need to seek christian counseling to end this problem to I always knew there was something special about you. In the end, no one other than me gets to define who I am.
So hang in there girl!! You are beautiful and if you can just let yourself believe in yourself you will be able to let the world see that beauty.
As to physical changes, add some color and definition to your eye area. I know you believe that less is more but sometimes adding a little drama can spice up your appearence.
Smile, smile, smile. What you perceve as clocking may be nothing more than why is that beautiful tall girl so sad and dour looking?
Hugs girl. You seem like you really need them.
Bought some new clothes and some new makeup. Having a little fun, but the makeup didn't turn out so good, but I like the clothes.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi356.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo6%2Fcbgreiwe%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20150321_081557_1_zpsvsyqktki.jpg&hash=8b22b62f2990f55f1aa70c712e91a60152f6130d) (http://s356.photobucket.com/user/cbgreiwe/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150321_081557_1_zpsvsyqktki.jpg.html)
I know I don't pass, but anyone think I have any potential? I'm also worried that I might need FFS. What do you think about this profile? The hairline definitely needs to be fixed, but do I do FFS first or go for the hairline fix?
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Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 20, 2015, 04:59:16 PM
I've been on hrt for two years :(
And ffs. >-bleeped-<. I'm never going to see that much money in my life.
There are grants and programs you can get on as well as take out a loan. Actually if you make good on the loan for FFS then getting that bigger loan for SRS should be easier.
It's like buying a car, or in our case getting a $20,000+ oil change, tires swapped, new interior, and new paint job with a spoiler and side skirts.
I think that this thread is too subjective and doesn't have much real world value. We're basing our opinions on 2 demensional photos that may or may have not been retouched or filtered, and the posters are showing the best pictures of their lot; they may have taken more than 10 pictures and posted the one(s) with the perfect angle and perfect lighting conditions (over exposed pictures hide flaws, as do black and white photos). The only way to know if you pass or not is to go out in public, and interact with people. If someone posts that they are not passing in public, then that is the way that it is, and no amount of support and encouragement to the contrary is going to change their real life experience. Maybe posting videos would offer a more objective platform to determine if someone passes or not.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 20, 2015, 04:59:16 PM
I've been on hrt for two years :(
And ffs. >-bleeped-<. I'm never going to see that much money in my life.
Oh stop it. Only if you don't want to. I came to this country with a few hundred in my pocket and now I make a decent living, have an education and I really don't want for anything and I can afford FFS and all the surgery I ever need. You know how I did this? I went and took life by the arm and twisted it to my liking. I grinned and bore it for many years. You can too.
Quote from: Jessie Ann on March 21, 2015, 10:46:54 AM
I have to admit that I am having a hard time in trying to figure out how to respond. It's not just because of this post but on the totality of what you have been posting recently. You say that you need facts and not emotional support. However, it's clear you need both. What I see when I look at your pictures is a lot of insecurity and unhappiness. I am fairly new to the transition world but not so to life and I can tell you that in most interactions with the world, self confidence is key to success. In my world, I am a trial lawyer, if you can't display confidence you are dead meat. Man or woman it doesn't matter, if you don't appear confident to the world you will not get the response you are looking for.
The one thing you need to work on more than anything is attitude and confidence. If you are looking for perfection, good luck honey cause you are never going to find it and you will never be happy. I see a reoccurring theme in your posts that you feel that you don't now and never will pass for CIS and if you can't your a failure. Now I don't know if you will or not in the future but if you use that as your standard now it's no wonder you feel bad. I know that you have been on HRT for a couple of years now but how confident are you that your Endo has got your regime down correctly? You also appear have some other psychological issues, as a lot of us do, that may need attention that can help to make you feel better and allow you to develop friendships and build a better support system.
No one knows what the future holds. For years I was afraid to address my issues so I operated on auto pilot and repressed my true self and was, what I thought to be, the model husband, father and employee. I couldn't get out of my terrible marriage because it would devastate the kids and I would be financially ruined for life. I couldn't adress my gender issues because it was sick and dirty to want to be who I felt I was. It got so bad that I would pray at night to have a heart attack and die so that I would not have to face my reality.
8 years ago God answered my prayer. I was driving home from work at 70 mph when I started having chest pains. I believed I was having a heart attack and my system reacted by slowing down my heart and droping my blood pressure to almost zero. When that happens, blood is no longer able to get to your brain and witin seconds you pass out. Not a good thing to do at 70 mph on a Southern California freeway towards the end of rush hour. When I woke up I was in a wrecked car that was a total loss. No one else was hit as I played pinball with the various center dividers and walls of the freeway. I wasn't killed and I wasn't having a heart attack. But God was telling me something.
Now 8 years later I am divorced, my kids are thriving and happy for the most part, and I have never been this financially sound. I am telling you this because what we frequently tell ourselves is just plain wrong. How do you know if you won't be able to afford FSS in the future? The correct answer is you don't know. There may be changes in insurance coveraage so that it is manditatory as part of the transition process that these proceedures be covered. You many find you develop a talent that is in high demand and will bring you great wealth. You may find a lotto ticket on the ground that is worth enough to cover the cost. In short, you need to worry less about what the future holds and concentrate on living now.
You are very pretty and I would so kill to be able to have your body shape. I am 6'2" and currently weigh 215. There is now way I am going to look CIS. So I have to be realistic and know that I can do what I can and let the rest happen. Even though I have no idea what I will look like in 2 mos, 6 mos, 1 year, 3 years or 6 years I can't let those doubts control who I am right now. You shouldn't let your doubts control you.
I have spent the last couple of weeks speaking to friends, family and people at work letting them know about my transition status. The reactions have been all over the board from you need to seek christian counseling to end this problem to I always knew there was something special about you. In the end, no one other than me gets to define who I am.
So hang in there girl!! You are beautiful and if you can just let yourself believe in yourself you will be able to let the world see that beauty.
As to physical changes, add some color and definition to your eye area. I know you believe that less is more but sometimes adding a little drama can spice up your appearence. Smile, smile, smile. What you perceve as clocking may be nothing more than why is that beautiful tall girl so sad and dour looking?
Hugs girl. You seem like you really need them.
This is the best thing I've read on this forum. Inspiring.
Quote from: kittenpower on March 21, 2015, 02:18:58 PM
I think that this thread is too subjective and doesn't have much real world value. We're basing our opinions on 2 demensional photos that may or may have not been retouched or filtered, and the posters are showing the best pictures of their lot; they may have taken more than 10 pictures and posted the one(s) with the perfect angle and perfect lighting conditions (over exposed pictures hide flaws, as do black and white photos). The only way to know if you pass or not is to go out in public, and interact with people. If someone posts that they are not passing in public, then that is the way that it is, and no amount of support and encouragement to the contrary is going to change their real life experience. Maybe posting videos would offer a more objective platform to determine if someone passes or not.
I like the video idea - it's a really good one. I think it should be adapted. However, pictures is fine too. Even if its filtred or whatever - people doing this needs encouragement.. we are not going through this easily.
Right, here we go.. I've felt a bit down about my looks this last week, and felt like I've not been passing. The first of these photos I think isn't too bad, it was taken just after getting my hair cut. The second I hate, and I feel shows up how masculine I can look. I would appreciate opinions.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1373.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag371%2Famy211%2FIMG_0153_zpscfyq7yrq.jpg&hash=043a0e9bc7ea4f28bfd3876942a47f8c056a6fde) (http://s1373.photobucket.com/user/amy211/media/IMG_0153_zpscfyq7yrq.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1373.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag371%2Famy211%2FIMG_0157_zpsj62vhaqn.jpg&hash=88b981c87235dd579ec214c4046ebb5095cbd7e7) (http://s1373.photobucket.com/user/amy211/media/IMG_0157_zpsj62vhaqn.jpg.html)
EDIT: My top lip is a little swollen in the second pic due to electrolysis this morning.
Quote from: TheRealMeMsKylie on March 21, 2015, 07:55:54 AM
I'm hoping this link will work because for some reason I can't post any pics from my phone, you will have to just scroll down a bit to see the two pictures I believe.
Anyways this is me, no hormones yet but I'm 3 laser hair removals in which is working quite well so far. Going to be starting HRT in May, which I'm beyond excited for, to really get to start my journey.
Let me know what you all think [emoji4]
http://therealmemskylie.tumblr.com/post/114188077777/tried-on-a-new-dress-tonight-feeling-good
I'd buy you a drink, thats for sure ;)
Quote from: Squircle on March 21, 2015, 03:55:36 PM
... shows up how masculine I can look...
... not very much. If fact, I have a hard time seeing your face masculine in any aspect or in any detail. If there's anything little less than perfectly feminine, it's your cheeks, or the lack of it. But guess what, many cis born women don't have the youthful puffy cheeks either. It does not make your face look masculine, but it does make your face look a little less youthful from this certain angle.
Quote from: Squircle on March 21, 2015, 03:55:36 PM
Right, here we go.. I've felt a bit down about my looks this last week, and felt like I've not been passing.
EDIT: My top lip is a little swollen in the second pic due to electrolysis this morning.
You look good in the first. You look tired or stressed in the second. Probably just the electrolysis. However, you don't look male in either pic. If you have seen my posts in this topic you would know that I would tell you if you did.
Hugs
Jennifer
Quote from: Squircle on March 21, 2015, 03:55:36 PM
Right, here we go.. I've felt a bit down about my looks this last week, and felt like I've not been passing. The first of these photos I think isn't too bad, it was taken just after getting my hair cut. The second I hate, and I feel shows up how masculine I can look. I would appreciate opinions.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1373.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag371%2Famy211%2FIMG_0153_zpscfyq7yrq.jpg&hash=043a0e9bc7ea4f28bfd3876942a47f8c056a6fde) (http://s1373.photobucket.com/user/amy211/media/IMG_0153_zpscfyq7yrq.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1373.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag371%2Famy211%2FIMG_0157_zpsj62vhaqn.jpg&hash=88b981c87235dd579ec214c4046ebb5095cbd7e7) (http://s1373.photobucket.com/user/amy211/media/IMG_0157_zpsj62vhaqn.jpg.html)
EDIT: My top lip is a little swollen in the second pic due to electrolysis this morning.
Neither first nor second look male in any way.
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I don't know why I'm posting even more of these (no makeup this time, unflattering light, etc), I feel like I'm just torturing myself. But if it's never going to happen and I need to go back, so be it. I was utterly and completely miserable as a man. But, hey, it's not like I'm any happier now-except now people stare at me in public and I have to worry about getting attacked every time I leave the dorm room/being totally unemployable. My voice is good. My posture is bad, but I'm working on that. My hair is growing out now, it's a mess. And I've been on HRT for two years...I wonder, since my cheeks have filled out, I've actually been finding that some of my masculine features are more prominent since my cheekbones are less visible. I wonder if that means I should try to lose some weight? I don't know.
If I'm never going to pass, it goes without saying I should detransition, I'm not prepared for the social cost of being out to EVERYONE I meet, weather I like it or not.
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 21, 2015, 02:32:04 PM
Oh stop it. Only if you don't want to. I came to this country with a few hundred in my pocket and now I make a decent living, have an education and I really don't want for anything and I can afford FFS and all the surgery I ever need. You know how I did this? I went and took life by the arm and twisted it to my liking. I grinned and bore it for many years. You can too.
Kate-I'd like to try and see you do that all over again as a trans woman. Trans women are four times more likely to live in poverty than the average woman; it's not because we're lazier than they are.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 21, 2015, 07:31:11 PM
Kate-I'd like to try and see you do that all over again as a trans woman. Trans women are four times more likely to live in poverty than the average woman; it's not because we're lazier than they are.
Don't have to. Lynn Conway, look her up.
And she did what she did in a much different time when things were not quite as good for us as they are now.
She's the exception, not the rule. Listen, I'm happy that some people are able to do this, really. And in this economy? Come on. Getting ahold of 40k disposable income is far from easy, and the few people that manage at are incredibly lucky. I'm studying theatre (which if not for my need for surgery I'd have NO qualms whatsoever in pursuing) and my parents won't let me change at this point...also, they pull in about ~300k a year, so it's pretty >-bleeped-<ed up that they aren't about to support me in this.
Also, Lyn Connway is passable. I'm not, at least I don't think (am I? Going by these photos)
I feel ok about my looks, but sometimes, I wonder if I look feminine enough, because, there are things that I do not like about my face; well specifically, it's my jaw, I didn't have the money to get it done, and it's just one of those things that I've learned to accept. My FFS surgeon recommended getting it done, but he said that it could be considered somewhat acceptable within the female range. And now I'm at the stage in life where if I have my jaw contoured, it will cause a lot of loose skin, and I will have to have a neck lift done at the same time, which adds thousands to the cost. So, anyway, please take a look at this video I made today, and let me know what you think (please disregard the over the top head nodding, which was inspired by the original background music, lol.)
https://youtu.be/PhCfanG0F-k
Quote from: kittenpower on March 22, 2015, 12:10:26 AM
I feel ok about my looks, but sometimes, I wonder if I look feminine enough, because, there are things that I do not like about my face; well specifically, it's my jaw, I didn't have the money to get it done, and it's just one of those things that I've learned to accept. My FFS surgeon recommended getting it done, but he said that it could be considered somewhat acceptable within the female range. And now I'm at the stage in life where if I have my jaw contoured, it will cause a lot of loose skin, and I will have to have a neck lift done at the same time, which adds thousands to the cost. So, anyway, please take a look at this video I made today, and let me know what you think (please disregard the over the top head nodding, which was inspired by the original background music, lol.)
https://youtu.be/PhCfanG0F-k
Videos are great for this thread. You get to hear the voice and everything which makes it easier to tell someone if they pass or not. And Kittenpower, you do not have to do you jaw? You are a 110% pass, good voice and everything! If I saw you on the street I would never think something else than Cis. I think you're beautiful!
Thank you for the wonderful compliment :)
Kittenpower it definitly looks feminine enough. I don't have any doubt that I'm looking at a female in this video. Could you benefit from more work on the face of course, but is it necessary no. I think it looks fine as is. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 21, 2015, 07:36:49 PM
Also, Lyn Connway is passable. I'm not, at least I don't think (am I? Going by these photos)
Androgynous -
Hi, it hurts me to read your posts, because before I went into transition which was more than a month ago I discussed it with friends back and forth. My thought were " If I'm never able to pass - I won't do this" - I discussed it with my friends all the time. Basically everything I talked about. They told me "Nora, take it easy you will pass - and it's not really about passing, I guess you want to do this to feel more comfortable?" That's so true. I mean of course I am still nervous if I will pass in a year or two. But I'm doing this to make myself more comfortable. I want to show people who I am.
Right now you are showing people how you are and how you feel inside, just imagine you're self now being without breast for example. When I finally have those I will never be able to consider to go back. And also - everyone looks different. Some cis girls I see on the street look 100% more manly that you, than me, than most of the people here. People look different - and I think you should stop worrying like crazy and live your "new" like to the fullest and just enjoy that u are u.
Quote from: kittenpower on March 22, 2015, 12:10:26 AM
I feel ok about my looks, but sometimes, I wonder if I look feminine enough, because, there are things that I do not like about my face; well specifically, it's my jaw, I didn't have the money to get it done, and it's just one of those things that I've learned to accept. My FFS surgeon recommended getting it done, but he said that it could be considered somewhat acceptable within the female range. And now I'm at the stage in life where if I have my jaw contoured, it will cause a lot of loose skin, and I will have to have a neck lift done at the same time, which adds thousands to the cost. So, anyway, please take a look at this video I made today, and let me know what you think (please disregard the over the top head nodding, which was inspired by the original background music, lol.)
https://youtu.be/PhCfanG0F-k
i love it, and you look fantastic. i wish we had more :) :angel:
hugs
ash
Quote from: SwedenMtf on March 22, 2015, 12:26:46 AM
Androgynous -
Hi, it hurts me to read your posts, because before I went into transition which was more than a month ago I discussed it with friends back and forth. My thought were " If I'm never able to pass - I won't do this" - I discussed it with my friends all the time. Basically everything I talked about. They told me "Nora, take it easy you will pass - and it's not really about passing, I guess you want to do this to feel more comfortable?" That's so true. I mean of course I am still nervous if I will pass in a year or two. But I'm doing this to make myself more comfortable. I want to show people who I am.
Right now you are showing people how you are and how you feel inside, just imagine you're self now being without breast for example. When I finally have those I will never be able to consider to go back. And also - everyone looks different. Some cis girls I see on the street look 100% more manly that you, than me, than most of the people here. People look different - and I think you should stop worrying like crazy and live your "new" like to the fullest and just enjoy that u are u.
It's hard to enjoy life when everyone is staring at you and you're being treated like you're less than human and nobody will ever date you or take anything you say seriously. Our world is not kind to trans people. You are going to pass, that's for sure. I think I've failed in that respect, and it wounds me because my life right now isn't good enough. My breasts are tiny little swells. It's as good as not having anything. Going back...it'd be awful. But this is hellish too, you know? I don't think I could survive detransitioning. I'm not able to survive being a trans woman who stands out like a freak either. Like it or not, passing matters. Take my story as a cautionary one: You may end up a disgusting boy/girl hybrid, a freak that nobody will ever want to so much as look at, let alone befriend, hire, or love. I also did this to feel more comfortable, but passing is something I need to do in order to feel comfortable. I don't feel comfortable right now at all. I feel awful, all the time.
There is no hope for people like me. I've failed. What happens from here on doesn't matter. Unless some miracle happens and I wake up a few inches shorter with enough cash for ffs, my life is going to be a miserable hell until it finally ends. If you transition, if anyone transitions, there is a possibility they may end up like me: Pathetic, sad, masculine-looking, and totally alone.
Quote from: Mariah2014 on March 22, 2015, 12:24:00 AM
Kittenpower it definitly looks feminine enough. I don't have any doubt that I'm looking at a female in this video. Could you benefit from more work on the face of course, but is it necessary no. I think it looks fine as is. Hugs
Mariah
Thank you, Mariah :)
Quote from: Asheylov on March 22, 2015, 12:36:37 AM
i love it, and you look fantastic. i wish we had more :) :angel:
hugs
ash
Thanks, Ash :)
I'm planning to add more in the future.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 22, 2015, 12:39:09 AM
It's hard to enjoy life when everyone is staring at you and you're being treated like you're less than human and nobody will ever date you or take anything you say seriously. Our world is not kind to trans people. You are going to pass, that's for sure. I think I've failed in that respect, and it wounds me because my life right now isn't good enough. My breasts are tiny little swells. It's as good as not having anything. Going back...it'd be awful. But this is hellish too, you know? I don't think I could survive detransitioning. I'm not able to survive being a trans woman who stands out like a freak either. Like it or not, passing matters. Take my story as a cautionary one: You may end up a disgusting boy/girl hybrid, a freak that nobody will ever want to so much as look at, let alone befriend, hire, or love. I also did this to feel more comfortable, but passing is something I need to do in order to feel comfortable. I don't feel comfortable right now at all. I feel awful, all the time.
There is no hope for people like me. I've failed. What happens from here on doesn't matter. Unless some miracle happens and I wake up a few inches shorter with enough cash for ffs, my life is going to be a miserable hell until it finally ends. If you transition, if anyone transitions, there is a possibility they may end up like me: Pathetic, sad, masculine-looking, and totally alone.
I don't know where you come from, or your history. But I don't believe people look at you as if you were a freak. I refuse. I believe everyone end up a boy/girl hybrid at some point during their transition. I mean I will too? Its not like you can snap your fingers and pass. I would suggest you start fresh somewhere else. Where nobody knows you and you can create the picture of who you are to people that doesn't know you. Because if I would do this process in my hometown where I grew up .. god I'd be miserable too.
Also I think a lot of you're fears of not passing and stuff is all in your head. I believe 80% of passing is believing urself.
Quote from: mmmmm on March 21, 2015, 04:29:29 PM
... not very much. If fact, I have a hard time seeing your face masculine in any aspect or in any detail. If there's anything little less than perfectly feminine, it's your cheeks, or the lack of it. But guess what, many cis born women don't have the youthful puffy cheeks either. It does not make your face look masculine, but it does make your face look a little less youthful from this certain angle.
Yes I agree about my cheeks, I feel like as I go into my second year on HRT they are getting a bit more fat on them but I have to face up to the fact I'm 34! Thanks for the feedback. I generally don't like any photos of myself and I don't think I'm very photogenic, but I posted that second one because I didn't see the point in only posting ones that meet a certain standard if I wanted honest opinions. It was taken at the end of the day just before I went to bed. :)
JLT1 and Imagine kate: Thanks for your kind words, it's much appreciated :)
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 22, 2015, 12:39:09 AM
It's hard to enjoy life when everyone is staring at you and you're being treated like you're less than human and nobody will ever date you or take anything you say seriously. Our world is not kind to trans people. You are going to pass, that's for sure. I think I've failed in that respect, and it wounds me because my life right now isn't good enough. My breasts are tiny little swells. It's as good as not having anything. Going back...it'd be awful. But this is hellish too, you know? I don't think I could survive detransitioning. I'm not able to survive being a trans woman who stands out like a freak either. Like it or not, passing matters. Take my story as a cautionary one: You may end up a disgusting boy/girl hybrid, a freak that nobody will ever want to so much as look at, let alone befriend, hire, or love. I also did this to feel more comfortable, but passing is something I need to do in order to feel comfortable. I don't feel comfortable right now at all. I feel awful, all the time.
There is no hope for people like me. I've failed. What happens from here on doesn't matter. Unless some miracle happens and I wake up a few inches shorter with enough cash for ffs, my life is going to be a miserable hell until it finally ends. If you transition, if anyone transitions, there is a possibility they may end up like me: Pathetic, sad, masculine-looking, and totally alone.
Right, you've asked for honest feedback so I'll give you completely honest feedback. Please note that anything negative I say could easily apply to me too because I sometimes feel exactly how you must've been feeling when you typed this.
Things you have going for you:
1. Your age
2. Your features aren't masculine. You have a nice nose and very feminine eyes.
3. Your overall bone structure is very delicate, you have elegant hands and narrow shoulders. You don't have a big or masculine upper body and you look proportionally good.
4. You have good skin.
Things that go against you.
1. That hair. I'm sorry but if you went on a university campus in the UK you'd see so many hipster guys with the same haircut. It kind of hardens your face, and you need something that softens it. Plus it will be drawing attention; it's quite a genderqueer haircut and it's one of those things that will make people question you. Grow it out and get it looked after by a decent hair salon.
2. Neater eyebrows would help a touch.
3. You ask if you should lose weight, but you have virtually non to lose, and to be honest if you put on a bit of weight it would help you a bit I think.
4. You're general outlook. If you go into every situation thinking the world is against you, thats all you'll see, and people will respond to your hostility with coldness. If you are friendly and open with people you'll start to experience all those little micro interactions with people that make life a bit more tolerable and will help your confidence.
5. FFS could help you, but its not essential and you wouldn't need much. Your chin is a little wide but nothing else stands out much.
I have to wrap this up now as Im off out in a sec, but you haven't failed. Notice how all of the things (with the exception of FFS) I've put in the 'against you' bit are fairly easy to address, without much financial outlay?
Take care and be positive :)
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 20, 2015, 01:08:25 PM
I've been doing everything I can to pass better-I'm trying to grow my hair out, I've gained a few pounds to widen my figure, but I feel like now I'm looking even more masculine than ever.
I've sorta come to the conclusion that if I'm never going to pass, perhaps I'm not emotionally prepared to continue living authentically. I mean, I have no friends, virtually no support, and if I can't pass, things are going to continue to be harder than I want to deal with. My relationship prospects, my potential for a career, all of it will go out the window if people are able to tell. I can't deal with our transphobic culture right now, and it's driving me literally insane. So, I've realized that if I am never going to pass for cis, I'm going to seriously consider going back. I feel like my face is getting even more masculine as time goes on. So, please, I beg of you-be honest. Please, be brutally honest. The amount of dishonesty I've seen on this thread is troubling; I'm not looking for emotional support. I'm considering a major life decision, and I need FACTS if I'm going to make it correctly. I'm wearing light makeup in three of the four pictures; in the fully body one, my hair is wet. I'm six feet tall, very tall. Too tall.
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Again, please be honest. This time isn't about feeling good about myself, it's about weather or not I should detransition.
hun you look totally passable to me you have a amazing slim figure and very gem shape and I don't see any masculine aspects to your face.
I'm full time and I no I don't pass.
When u look at your pics I'm actually jealous and envious you look amazing.
Keep going xxoo
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The staring thing is odd because I'm fair certain I'm not pretty and I do get clocked on occasion (much rarer now though) but absolutely no one stares at me in passing at all.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 21, 2015, 07:35:47 PM
She's the exception, not the rule. Listen, I'm happy that some people are able to do this, really. And in this economy? Come on. Getting ahold of 40k disposable income is far from easy, and the few people that manage at are incredibly lucky. I'm studying theatre (which if not for my need for surgery I'd have NO qualms whatsoever in pursuing) and my parents won't let me change at this point...also, they pull in about ~300k a year, so it's pretty >-bleeped-<ed up that they aren't about to support me in this.
I don't think you would need 40k worth of procedures in your case. just to put things in perspective say you wanted to get maybe just brow bossing done or chin shaved, and lets just say it had a $10,000k price tag.(you can probably get it done cheaper)
If you saved about $275 a month for 3 years, you would be there. thats like $70 a week. Even with a $10/hour job thats not too hard of a goal. You just have to be disciplined. Also i think you said you are in school? Take out some student loans and put the money towards the surgery. When i was in college i used most of my student loan/grant money for living expenses. (apartment rent, food, etc). Just some ideas, because even if you don't have a career, the idea of saving a good chunk of money is not THAT hard. I understand that the FFS is important to you, if you want it bad enough, I'm sure you can make it happen.
and true you might not be able to get hired as a professional in an office setting, but here are some ideas for employment as a student and still have a unique hipster fashion sense. Maybe look for businesses hiring in your LGBT community.
1. work on campus
2. Coffee shop
3. Restaurent as a waiter (you can make nice tips)
4. retail stores clothing jewelry
5. music stores
I've only recently started identifying as female and I've been thinking a lot about transition. I haven't had any operations or taken any hormones, I barely know how to shave properly. I guess I just need to know if I could pass as female if I do decide to do my hair, put on makeup and perform a complete transition.
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My cheeks are a bit bloated, been trying to lose some weight lately.
Honest opinions appreciated, thank you.
You have a great foundation to pass from with your face already it looks so young and rounded on the most.
Mariah
Quote from: Nyctelios on March 22, 2015, 08:21:02 AM
I've only recently started identifying as female and I've been thinking a lot about transition. I haven't had any operations or taken any hormones, I barely know how to shave properly. I guess I just need to know if I could pass as female if I do decide to do my hair, put on makeup and perform a complete transition.
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My cheeks are a bit bloated, been trying to lose some weight lately.
Honest opinions appreciated, thank you.
You really do pass more than you think and your hair is a huge reason why that is true. I'm sorry that you don't see that in yourself because I truly wish that you could. It's true your face isn't perfect, but most woman's faces are not. We all have different flaws that we don't like about them. If you were to aim at any location for FFS the strong jaw of yours would be the spot. Clearly you are happier having transitioned and I know your posting these to see if you should detransition. Being that the case, would you truly be happier having detransitioned and could you live with yourself doing so. After all it's your call and I hope you find peace with whatever choice you choose. Good luck and Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 21, 2015, 07:29:45 PM
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I don't know why I'm posting even more of these (no makeup this time, unflattering light, etc), I feel like I'm just torturing myself. But if it's never going to happen and I need to go back, so be it. I was utterly and completely miserable as a man. But, hey, it's not like I'm any happier now-except now people stare at me in public and I have to worry about getting attacked every time I leave the dorm room/being totally unemployable. My voice is good. My posture is bad, but I'm working on that. My hair is growing out now, it's a mess. And I've been on HRT for two years...I wonder, since my cheeks have filled out, I've actually been finding that some of my masculine features are more prominent since my cheekbones are less visible. I wonder if that means I should try to lose some weight? I don't know.
If I'm never going to pass, it goes without saying I should detransition, I'm not prepared for the social cost of being out to EVERYONE I meet, weather I like it or not.
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Don't look great in that picture, first day getting my hair done, still trying out various ways to wear it. :P Been used to seeing myself as male for so long, kind of hard to see if I can pass for myself..
Honest feedback welcomed, thanks. :3
Quote from: Nyctelios on March 22, 2015, 08:21:02 AM
I've only recently started identifying as female and I've been thinking a lot about transition. I haven't had any operations or taken any hormones, I barely know how to shave properly. I guess I just need to know if I could pass as female if I do decide to do my hair, put on makeup and perform a complete transition.
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My cheeks are a bit bloated, been trying to lose some weight lately.
Honest opinions appreciated, thank you.
Eyebrows and hair should do a lot for you on its own.
Hormones may do something too.
Quote from: Gerby on March 22, 2015, 12:53:32 PM
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Don't look great in that picture, first day getting my hair done, still trying out various ways to wear it. :P Been used to seeing myself as male for so long, kind of hard to see if I can pass for myself..
Honest feedback welcomed, thanks. :3
Definite pass for me, like girl next door pass.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 21, 2015, 07:29:45 PM
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I don't know why I'm posting even more of these (no makeup this time, unflattering light, etc), I feel like I'm just torturing myself. But if it's never going to happen and I need to go back, so be it. I was utterly and completely miserable as a man. But, hey, it's not like I'm any happier now-except now people stare at me in public and I have to worry about getting attacked every time I leave the dorm room/being totally unemployable. My voice is good. My posture is bad, but I'm working on that. My hair is growing out now, it's a mess. And I've been on HRT for two years...I wonder, since my cheeks have filled out, I've actually been finding that some of my masculine features are more prominent since my cheekbones are less visible. I wonder if that means I should try to lose some weight? I don't know.
If I'm never going to pass, it goes without saying I should detransition, I'm not prepared for the social cost of being out to EVERYONE I meet, weather I like it or not.
The side is looking very femme to me.
The front is less so but this highlights one of the things pointed out - your hair style. Change that and you would probably be surprised.
Then again it sounds like you want to detransition so I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise. Best of luck in life.
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Im not trans but i figured im on a trans forum so why not join the fun :) Enjoyyyyyyyy
Using avatar pic for this.
Was taken back in October last year, was on hormones for 7 months, full time for 6.
Quote from: Sapphire87 on March 22, 2015, 04:06:35 PM
Using avatar pic for this.
Was taken back in October last year, was on hormones for 7 months, full time for 6.
You look great, very feminine :)
Quote from: codyfletcher on March 22, 2015, 02:18:05 PM
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Im not trans but i figured im on a trans forum so why not join the fun :) Enjoyyyyyyyy
you are on the cusp of masculinity and femininity, and I honestly cannot say for sure which one I see you as. but since you are wearing a hello kitty hoodie, I'll say female.
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 22, 2015, 01:52:42 PM
The side is looking very femme to me.
The front is less so but this highlights one of the things pointed out - your hair style. Change that and you would probably be surprised.
Then again it sounds like you want to detransition so I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise. Best of luck in life.
I don't want to though! I'm just tired of being so ostracized, getting weird looks...and I'm scared that nobody is ever going to love me. I'm a girl...I just wish I was treated differently.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 22, 2015, 06:12:05 PM
I don't want to though! I'm just tired of being so ostracized, getting weird looks...and I'm scared that nobody is ever going to love me. I'm a girl...I just wish I was treated differently.
That's just it, you're given TONS of advice here yet all we hear is I don't wanna/can't/not gonna. So what you want us to say babe? I'm very sorry but it almost seems like you want to detransition but want us to justify it so you can clear your conscience. So I'm not going to tell you otherwise. Your choice is your choice!
Willing to take some of our advice about your hair and other stuff and give it a good old fashioned try hon? Please pretty please?
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 22, 2015, 06:36:55 PM
That's just it, you're given TONS of advice here yet all we hear is I don't wanna/can't/not gonna. So what you want us to say babe? I'm very sorry but it almost seems like you want to detransition but want us to justify it so you can clear your conscience. So I'm not going to tell you otherwise. Your choice is your choice!
Willing to take some of our advice about your hair and other stuff and give it a good old fashioned try hon? Please pretty please?
Of course, I mean I'm already growing it out. You have to understand, in it's current state this style is pretty much the only option I have, and I'm a few years away from getting to a point where it's good. Once I get there, if it looks good, I really hope it does...idk. I'm gonna put a pink hi light in it, that's not something I'm so ready to give up!
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 22, 2015, 06:42:35 PM
Of course, I mean I'm already growing it out. You have to understand, in it's current state this style is pretty much the only option I have, and I'm a few years away from getting to a point where it's good. Once I get there, if it looks good, I really hope it does...idk. I'm gonna put a pink hi light in it, that's not something I'm so ready to give up!
My hair is getting to where I want it. Its grown pretty fast . I'm thinking maroon streaks.
:icon_female: :icon_chick: Hi there my Sexy Susan's Sisters and Beautiful Brothers and everyone under the Sun. I went to church today, determined to be a little more bold and classy and feminine, given my stature and only being on hrt for 5 months. I am not that great at applying makeup or eyeliner/eyeshadow/browliner so far eithier, but you be the judge. Tell me if I am getting closer to female. Tell me if I am getting closer to adrogynous. Or just tell me what you think in general please. I hope everyone has a blessed day if possible. Love and Sunshine :angel: :icon_bunch:
*Edit* For a frame of reference Let us see my 1.5 month picture on HRT and short buzzed hair vs Today at nearly 5.5 Months
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FADE OUT FROM SUNSHINE TO NOIR.........
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Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on March 22, 2015, 07:05:51 PM
:icon_female: :icon_chick: Hi there my Sexy Susan's Sisters and Beautiful Brothers and everyone under the Sun. I went to church today, determined to be a little more bold and classy and feminine, given my stature and only being on hrt for 5 months. I am not that great at applying makeup so far eithier, but you be the judge. Tell me if I am getting closer to female. Tell me if I am getting closer to adrogynous. Or just tell me what you think in general please. I hope everyone has a blessed day if possible. Love and Sunshine :angel: :icon_bunch:
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FADE OUT FROM SUNSHINE TO NOIR.........
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Getting closer but I'm more a fan of the closer to natural look... Also I'd say shape the brows. Made a huge difference for me it will for you too!
Definitely more neutral colors for the makeup would work better for you.
Mariah
Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on March 22, 2015, 07:05:51 PM
:icon_female: :icon_chick: Hi there my Sexy Susan's Sisters and Beautiful Brothers and everyone under the Sun. I went to church today, determined to be a little more bold and classy and feminine, given my stature and only being on hrt for 5 months. I am not that great at applying makeup so far eithier, but you be the judge. Tell me if I am getting closer to female. Tell me if I am getting closer to adrogynous. Or just tell me what you think in general please. I hope everyone has a blessed day if possible. Love and Sunshine :angel: :icon_bunch:
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well i did have my brows waxed and used a pencil and brush on them, they don't look this thick or dark or tall in the mirror, the camera on this mac is adding too much there for some reason. But yeah i know lol. I will try more smokey natural tones sometime soon but, I just wanted to do the pink and blue girly thing.
I am pleased with my hair for sure, all my life I have cut it off and went straight and short. These are my natural curls, natural color of my hair, only thing added was a leave in 7 in 1 conditioner.QuoteGetting closer but I'm more a fan of the closer to natural look... Also I'd say shape the brows. Made a huge difference for me it will for you too![ /quote]
What is considered natural though? What is in that range?
I desperatley need help in learning how to paint/draw and shape brows :-\
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 22, 2015, 01:52:42 PM
The side is looking very femme to me.
The front is less so but this highlights one of the things pointed out - your hair style. Change that and you would probably be surprised.
Then again it sounds like you want to detransition so I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise. Best of luck in life.
Totally cute. Nothing wrong with your hair.
Sure, make-up would look less andro, but I really don't see a problem here.
Um I meant to quote painter's post, not the response.
Beautiful Sunshine!
I think your hair is awesome. For the sense of not wanting to get stares, a more natural look and shaped eyebrows would do wo nders for you, but GAWD ALMIGHTY you are a personality to behold and don't ever dim that!!!
Painter,
If you feel a need to detransition, then be free. Don't torture yourself over it. I rather like the colour in your hair, but then I've always been rather partial to purples.
Ladies, all of you. Be you to the full. Be-a-u-ti-ful.
Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on March 22, 2015, 07:05:51 PM
:icon_female: :icon_chick: Hi there my Sexy Susan's Sisters and Beautiful Brothers and everyone under the Sun. I went to church today, determined to be a little more bold and classy and feminine, given my stature and only being on hrt for 5 months. I am not that great at applying makeup or eyeliner/eyeshadow/browliner so far eithier, but you be the judge. Tell me if I am getting closer to female. Tell me if I am getting closer to adrogynous. Or just tell me what you think in general please. I hope everyone has a blessed day if possible. Love and Sunshine :angel: :icon_bunch:
*Edit* For a frame of reference Let us see my 1.5 month picture on HRT and short buzzed hair vs Today at nearly 5.5 Months
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FADE OUT FROM SUNSHINE TO NOIR.........
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Hey there Sunshine,
firstly, kudos to you for being brave and going out. Keep building that confidence, and don't let anyone stop you.
I echo what the others have said about makeup generally so far, but I would also add that a useful general rule is that, if you aren't going for a neutral palette, to emphasise either the eyes or the lips (or, in rare cases if you have a fantabulous blush, the cheeks), but to not try to draw too much emphasis to both at the same time. This isn't a hard-and-fast rule--really, makeup is ultimately about what makes *you* feel good--but it's a useful general tip, especially when you're starting off. If you do too much, you risk visual chaos, and if you're worried about passing, visual chaos will draw attention that will get you read more quickly. I like your lip colour, so maybe a softer eye--and I would avoid going so deep with the liner/shadow-as-liner. Keep practicing and you'll get better and better. Once you have more practice under your belt, you'll learn what rules to keep and which to break!
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 21, 2015, 07:29:45 PM
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I don't know why I'm posting even more of these (no makeup this time, unflattering light, etc), I feel like I'm just torturing myself. But if it's never going to happen and I need to go back, so be it. I was utterly and completely miserable as a man. But, hey, it's not like I'm any happier now-except now people stare at me in public and I have to worry about getting attacked every time I leave the dorm room/being totally unemployable. My voice is good. My posture is bad, but I'm working on that. My hair is growing out now, it's a mess. And I've been on HRT for two years...I wonder, since my cheeks have filled out, I've actually been finding that some of my masculine features are more prominent since my cheekbones are less visible. I wonder if that means I should try to lose some weight? I don't know.
If I'm never going to pass, it goes without saying I should detransition, I'm not prepared for the social cost of being out to EVERYONE I meet, weather I like it or not.
Aside from what everyone else has said--I'm not lying when I say you're, firstly, like your name--androgynous. From the side, from different angles, etc.--I could easily imagine people seeing you and taking you for a cis-girl, while at other times, you seem more teenage-boyish--and the latter is partly because of your glowering expression in many of the photos. Smiling doesn't make anyone female, but glaring is a bit more likely to make you look masculine if your features are already ambiguous or not 100% passable--and in your case, it does. I also find that the photos of you I've seen with makeup, like your avatar, look more feminine--and I mean passably so. The HRT has already given or helped give your face a very smooth, youthful appearance that visually helps it lean towards female; if makeup will help push you over the visual boundary into the female range, and if you enjoy wearing makeup in general (as I do), then that is one option. Another option will come as you grow out your hair. Some girls look boyish when they tie their hair back, but a lot more 'feminine' when they let their hair down; the same may be true for you. Again, long hair has no inherent connection to femininity, but everyone has different features to work with, and having your hair frame your face, or in a high fanned-out ponytail that shows off your beautiful curls, might help. I myself was convinced for a long time that I couldn't wear my hair back and pass, and I still hate my profile when my hair is back (though I'm pre-HRT, so things may or may not change for me). But if I tie my hair up high, it gives a visual effect that doesn't detract so much from my femininity, and I feel I pass better.
You sound to me like you'll be much sadder if you detransition--so keep at it. No, you're not 100% passable, but you're definitely androgynous, and I think visual cues, like certain kinds of makeup and hairstyles, will help you tip the balance in your favour. When I wear lipstick, I feel more likely to pass. This is me--no one should be forced to wear makeup--but I know it helps me feel more passable. You look good in your avatar with the colour you're wearing. And you have lovely curls. Grow out your hair and see where it goes from there. At very least, give yourself until your hair is below shoulder-length.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do--but don't give up just yet, if you can.
Is there any way, do you think, that I could pass 100% of the time? This is very important to me.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 22, 2015, 09:06:29 PM
Is there any way, do you think, that I could pass 100% of the time? This is very important to me.
Have you considered gaining a little weight; I think that it would have a good feminizing effect on you.
Quote from: kittenpower on March 22, 2015, 09:15:44 PM
Have you considered gaining a little weight; I think that it would have a good feminizing effect on you.
Funnily enough, I have been putting on a few pounds and my face has actually looked a bit MORE masculine because my lower cheeks are now filling in and it makes my jaw look more prominent. I'm considering trying to diet again.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 22, 2015, 09:06:29 PM
Is there any way, do you think, that I could pass 100% of the time? This is very important to me.
honestly and I have never said anything on this site that was not my true belief. You are truly within the normal boundaries for how the cumulative average sample of the way woman look. Honestly , your not Marilyn Monroe or Greta Garbo , but they are one in a quadrillion
Quote from: Abysha on March 19, 2015, 06:39:10 PM
Ok, beautiful folks. I've lost about 20 pounds or so since I first uploaded a picture (right after I joined). A lot of the brutish features I didn't like I think were due to my weight. I'm still pre-HRT so I know a lot will change (going to get electrolysis, as well). I've already decided to use it as my avatar but here it is, anyway.
What effects do you think HRT will have on my jaw/chin area? Just filling it out would be handy maybe. In your experiences with HRT, does a lot of the sharper testosterone-poisoned edges smooth out beyond just the cheeks?
Is there hope?
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Oh well I can just say it depends on people, but there is no hope in my opinion most of the time, unless you talk about fat added to that area through hrt which would look like adding pounds instead of losing them, which will round your face out but usually a square chin will stay that, I have a square chin myself... Can't wait to get enough money for ffs. Good luck!
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Again, please be honest. This time isn't about feeling good about myself, it's about weather or not I should detransition.
Now there is a lot of tall girls out there, have you tried adding hair? Extentions or maybe a wig for the moment, it's really good to use one while you try to grow your hair, and you should try not to dye them or do anything that will damage, and a wig will protect your hair and help them grow faster, longer hair help passing very well... I think the only problem you have is a square chin like me, I think you might want to see if you would like ffs or not, it's kinda a personal thing, I hate my chin, so I will definitely see if I can get my chin to be rounder and more feminine, but besides that I think you look very feminine, and you're really skinny... I'm jealous.
Also don't listen to this people hating on your hair texture, it's beautiful and natural, just keep it that way if you want or just do whatever you want, if it was longer, it would be even prettier! Good luck on growing your hair out! Also maybe try hairfinity or some pills for hair growth, usually they help with shedding or making them softer or silkier, and less damaged.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 22, 2015, 09:06:29 PM
Is there any way, do you think, that I could pass 100% of the time? This is very important to me.
No.
Not even cis women "pass" 100% of the time.
There is no such thing as an absolute. There is in fact an extremely passable trans woman on this forum who said that she was sir'ed the other day... it can and does happen. Meanwhile I go out with a shadow and no makeup and get nothing but ma'am and miss, and even get bounced out of the men's restroom... Go figure.
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Maybe you should try wear some make up, I don't know if you are or not from the picture... Nothing too crazy especially if you're not really good at it. Maybe you can try brush your wig too a little more, and definitely a closer shave or a good Concealer /Foundation to cover the 5 o'clock shadow, and if you can go somewhere to get your eyebrows done and then buy a eyebrows plucker, and pluck anything that will grow, so you can maintain the shape they gave you, or look for tutorial on youtube. Good luck!
Quote from: Eevee on March 20, 2015, 05:00:21 PM
I decided I wanted to look pretty today. I hope I pass well enough. I've been on HRT for almost 6 months now.
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I feel like you don't really need to spend a lot of time trying to look pretty... Gorgeous and no need of asking, yes... You do pass fabulously!
Quote from: TheRealMeMsKylie on March 21, 2015, 07:55:54 AM
I'm hoping this link will work because for some reason I can't post any pics from my phone, you will have to just scroll down a bit to see the two pictures I believe.
Anyways this is me, no hormones yet but I'm 3 laser hair removals in which is working quite well so far. Going to be starting HRT in May, which I'm beyond excited for, to really get to start my journey.
Let me know what you all think [emoji4]
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That's such a cute dress, looking lovely :) and you're at a great start, showing people you don't need HRT to pass!
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 21, 2015, 02:32:04 PM
Oh stop it. Only if you don't want to. I came to this country with a few hundred in my pocket and now I make a decent living, have an education and I really don't want for anything and I can afford FFS and all the surgery I ever need. You know how I did this? I went and took life by the arm and twisted it to my liking. I grinned and bore it for many years. You can too.
Well that's something personal, some people like me, barely afford hormones, and I can't even afford laser, FFS is something I will not see happen in the near future. So I completely understand her.
Quote from: ChiGirl on March 21, 2015, 11:01:27 AM
Bought some new clothes and some new makeup. Having a little fun, but the makeup didn't turn out so good, but I like the clothes.
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I know I don't pass, but anyone think I have any potential? I'm also worried that I might need FFS. What do you think about this profile? The hairline definitely needs to be fixed, but do I do FFS first or go for the hairline fix?
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Are you even wearing make up? That's some really light make up XD Maybe it's just me who is exaggerated then. Well from those picture shots, I don't know, have you been on HRT? You don't quite pass to me, I'm sorry maybe you should try some eye make up, and maybe ffs is something you want to consider if you have been on hrt for a long time. Definately go for hairline fix, that's something I would see as being harder for me to deal with if I had that problem, but everyone has different things... Also maybe it's just how you took those picture, yoy know frontal picture would have been more helpful sometimes
Quote from: Nyctelios on March 22, 2015, 08:21:02 AM
I've only recently started identifying as female and I've been thinking a lot about transition. I haven't had any operations or taken any hormones, I barely know how to shave properly. I guess I just need to know if I could pass as female if I do decide to do my hair, put on makeup and perform a complete transition.
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My cheeks are a bit bloated, been trying to lose some weight lately.
Honest opinions appreciated, thank you.
If only it's your eyebrows a little too thick on the sides next to your nose, but nothing too masculine really, I think face-wise you look very feminine
Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 22, 2015, 10:27:20 PM
Well that's something personal, some people like me, barely afford hormones, and I can't even afford laser, FFS is something I will happen in the near future. So I completely understand her.
The point is, never say never.
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Don't look great in that picture, first day getting my hair done, still trying out various ways to wear it. :P Been used to seeing myself as male for so long, kind of hard to see if I can pass for myself..
Honest feedback welcomed, thanks. :3
You're such a cute little girl, you definitely pass as one too! Good luck on your transition!
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 22, 2015, 10:06:44 PM
No.
Not even cis women "pass" 100% of the time.
There is no such thing as an absolute. There is in fact an extremely passable trans woman on this forum who said that she was sir'ed the other day... it can and does happen. Meanwhile I go out with a shadow and no makeup and get nothing but ma'am and miss, and even get bounced out of the men's restroom... Go figure.
"Not even cis women pass 100% of the time"
What? That statement is so far off, that it doesn't make any sense at all. Sorry, it just doesn't ::)
Quote from: kittenpower on March 22, 2015, 10:43:07 PM
"Not even cis women pass 100% of the time"
What? That statement is so far off, that it doesn't make any sense at all. Sorry, it just doesn't ::)
"Pass" is in quotes because they're not really "passing" like a trans woman. I know cis women who get sir'ed on occasion. Not all not most but some.
Passing 100% is a ridiculously high standard, for anyone is my point. 99% of the time? Sure.
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Definitely try something more natural, you know the look nowdays is to wear make up but trying to look like you are not wearing it... And you look like you've been playing with a 5 year old make up. It's definitely too much, if you go for a bright pink lipstick (which I love a lot - see my picture), don't go for a bright blue on your eyes XD
Also try to work on your eyebrows, and longer hair might help you look more passable and female clothes too. Your eyes are gorgeous tho, Good luck!
That's not what passing means Kate. It means that people can't tell you're trans. That's the goal I'm aiming for-the opportunity to pursue my other life goals in peace. That's what I'm afraid isn't possible. Cis women don't face oppression because people think their transgender, sorry.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 22, 2015, 10:47:11 PM
That's not what passing means Kate. It means that people can't tell you're trans. That's the goal I'm aiming for-the opportunity to pursue my other life goals in peace. That's what I'm afraid isn't possible. Cis women don't face oppression because people think their transgender, sorry.
Here is my two cents.
First. What do YOU feel on the inside. Forget how you look, how others see you. How do you feel? Male or female?
Depending on that answer, that is what you should do.
If you de-transition then you risk having people think you are gay, or a very effeminate male. You could still face discrimination. You could also be very depressed if you really are wanting to transition.
As for your look, yes you already look very much like a cis woman. The thing that is making it more noticeable is your hairstyle.
Your body shape is very female. Your face has sharp features, but so does a lot of CIS women. The trick is learning how to mask those insecurities. Hair that frames your face might help. There are wigs that are human hair, and it is HARD to tell they are wigs if you wear it correctly.
I know a CIS woman who wears wigs exclusively.
Extensions. Not that expensive these days, lasts a long time.
Your hair style is very wild and crazy. It is going to make people look. Which draws eyes to the sharp features. Which makes them start to question or possibly clock.
That can be easily fixed. But beating yourself up, isn't the answer my dear.
EVERYONE has those moments they worry they won't pass, are being stared at. Etc.
But. Your journey is not a fast one. You aren't going to be a woman over night. It will take time. EVENTUALLY you will be at a point where you will have a job, life etc.
It is easier and easier these days to change your name and gender on your id. Which will help you get a job. You don't have to reveal your past, or that you were a born male.
Also, I know you say that gaining weight has made you look more masculine. That generally isn't the case. Weight helps you look more fem many times.
I also wonder if you have talked to your therapist about all of this or Doctor? Are you taking anything for anexity or depression?
Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on March 22, 2015, 07:05:51 PM
:icon_female: :icon_chick: Hi there my Sexy Susan's Sisters and Beautiful Brothers and everyone under the Sun. I went to church today, determined to be a little more bold and classy and feminine, given my stature and only being on hrt for 5 months. I am not that great at applying makeup or eyeliner/eyeshadow/browliner so far eithier, but you be the judge. Tell me if I am getting closer to female. Tell me if I am getting closer to adrogynous. Or just tell me what you think in general please. I hope everyone has a blessed day if possible. Love and Sunshine :angel: :icon_bunch:
*Edit* For a frame of reference Let us see my 1.5 month picture on HRT and short buzzed hair vs Today at nearly 5.5 Months
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FADE OUT FROM SUNSHINE TO NOIR.........
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Something that is going to greatly help you is that your eyebrows should be about 3/4's thinner than they are. It looks like you added a browliner/color to your brows? This is a huge no! It makes them look much thicker.
As for a natural makeup look and what it is. Just google natural makeup and there are tons of tutorials. Also watch a TON of Youtube videos. People think I am crazy when I say this, but watching Drag Queen makeup tutorials will help out a lot. Simply because they talk about how to hide certain masculine features. Where CIS women videos don't usually cover this. The key is toning it down.
Bright pinks, blues, etc. scream trans to most people. I know many love it because we never were able to have those colors as kids, and didn't get to experiment. So it really boils down to if you care what people around you think. If you don't care - then enjoy, and have fun learning. If you do care, then practice makes perfect.
Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 22, 2015, 10:30:02 PM
Are you even wearing make up? That's some really light make up XD Maybe it's just me who is exaggerated then. Well from those picture shots, I don't know, have you been on HRT? You don't quite pass to me, I'm sorry maybe you should try some eye make up, and maybe ffs is something you want to consider if you have been on hrt for a long time. Definately go for hairline fix, that's something I would see as being harder for me to deal with if I had that problem, but everyone has different things... Also maybe it's just how you took those picture, yoy know frontal picture would have been more helpful sometimes
Thanks, Serena. Other than some light lipstick, I'm not wearing any makeup. I tried, but it came out so bad, I removed it before I took these pictures. And I know I don't pass. [emoji13] [emoji1] I guess I'm curious if I have potential. I also posted that side profile to see if people think ffs would be needed. I'd like to get the hairline fixed ASAP, but if I decide down the road to get ffs, I don't want to mess up my new hairline. So I'm just trying to gauge these things now.
Thanks for your response. If I get better with makeup, I'll post again.
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 22, 2015, 10:45:19 PM
"Pass" is in quotes because they're not really "passing" like a trans woman. I know cis women who get sir'ed on occasion. Not all not most but some.
Passing 100% is a ridiculously high standard, for anyone is my point. 99% of the time? Sure.
Completely agree!
Any woman however feminine they are can get gendered male depending on the circumstances, clothing, situation etc. As Kate says 100% is just not realistic.
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 22, 2015, 10:45:19 PM
"Pass" is in quotes because they're not really "passing" like a trans woman. I know cis women who get sir'ed on occasion. Not all not most but some.
Passing 100% is a ridiculously high standard, for anyone is my point. 99% of the time? Sure.
Passing 99%? And passing 68% maybe ... WTF!? It's either you pass or you don't. It's that simple. It's either everybody sees you as only and ONLY a cisgender female, or sometimes some people don't. In that case, you're not passable yet. One is passable (in my opinion) when she can have a "bad hair day" and "without make-up day" on the same day, while wearing "dog walking clothes", and everybody would still only see her as just another female.
Some cis women do get sir'ed occasionaly.. I guess that doesn't bother them much, because if it would, they would do something to change their appearance in a way such a misgendering would never happen again. It's just that they don't give a f***. Try to find me one trans woman who don't give a f*** about being called sir (...or even likes it like some very butch cis women do)
Quote from: kittenpower on March 21, 2015, 02:18:58 PM
I think that this thread is too subjective and doesn't have much real world value...
I guess a well chosen picture is only worth 1000 words. But it is a cool way for people to get feedback, advice or a confidence lift having us all gawk at them.
I'd like to see a new thread: 'kittenpowers's 12 point do you pass inspection', where we'll reply with recorded video (purse mounted GoPro) walking into a well lit bar, ordering a drink and navigating thru getting hit on. If you don't get hit on you fail the inspection, obviously.
Quote from: Missconsufed on March 23, 2015, 08:28:27 AM
Ok, this is very hard for me. I've been having the desire to transition since i was 17-18 (im 24 now) but i never had the courage to do anything about it. Now it's become stronger than ever BUT i'd rather live as a male for the rest of my life than being my true self and not being able to pass. I mean, passing to some people is not enough, i want to be perfectly fine by the end of my transition knowing that NO ONE will be suspicious about my past. So, im posting these pics and i want THE COLD HARD TRUTH, BE 100% HONEST, I DONT WANT WORDS OF COMFORT My biggest concern is my shoulders/overall body size. I know one of the most important parts to "pass" is mannerisms and face, but im pretty sure i can deal with my face (FFS and stuff). Anyway, sorry for the long post and for my English, its not my primary language! And thanks for any replies! PS: ok so i just read the post above me.. i guess 99% passing rate is fine.
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PS2: i havent done anything to feminize my body, ever, because of the reasons above (not even starting transition before im 100% sure i'd be seen by everyone as a perfectly normal female, and if i never achieve that percentage, so be it, i'll be in a man's body forever)
Dear Miss Consufed,
You are perfect just the way you are. The most important thing to do is accept and love yourself. If for what ever reason you may have, you feel the need to live the rest of your life as female, you need honest counseling to make that determination. You must not do it alone. Get professional gender counseling first, before you do anything else.
Having said that, you are thin and young. That is good. Hormone therapy can block testosterone and provide estrogen that will change your body dramatically. Just look at all the other ladies who have posted before and after pictures here. You can do the same thing.
From my point of view, your shoulders are not too large and once you start a testosterone blocker your upper body muscles will get smaller. Keep your weight down, eat lots of vegetables, get proper counseling and hormone therapy and go for it! :angel: At this point I would not worry about clothes, hair or makeup, just be your self!
You have not posted a picture of your face, so I cannot comment on if you need facial feminization surgery or not. Starting at age 24 is the best time to transition. You are old enough to know yourself and young enough to have not been under testosterone too long.
Quote from: mmmmm on March 23, 2015, 09:24:32 AM
Passing 99%? And passing 68% maybe ... WTF!? It's either you pass or you don't. It's that simple. It's either everybody sees you as only and ONLY a cisgender female, or sometimes some people don't. In that case, you're not passable yet. One is passable (in my opinion) when she can have a "bad hair day" and "without make-up day" on the same day, while wearing "dog walking clothes", and everybody would still only see her as just another female.
Some cis women do get sir'ed occasionaly.. I guess that doesn't bother them much, because if it would, they would do something to change their appearance in a way such a misgendering would never happen again. It's just that they don't give a f***.
I don't really think it is that simple.
There was a cis woman on here asking for advice because people didn't address her as "ma'am" or "miss" at all and gave her a genderless greeting while everyone else was given a gendered greeting. It became so bad for her that she was even considering FFS... she showed some pictures and honestly I could never gender her anything but female. But I guess it happens.
And yeah, I get the part about bad hair, no makeup, walking the dog kind of clothes... to an extent. But to me "passing" is a spectrum. "Completely passing" is another but I think that is an impossibility.
QuoteTry to find me one trans woman who don't give a f*** about being called sir (...or even likes it like some very butch cis women do)
Eh I learned to brush it off. It's an acquired skill for sure but it helps with passing.
Quote from: Missconsufed on March 23, 2015, 08:28:27 AM
Ok, this is very hard for me. I've been having the desire to transition since i was 17-18 (im 24 now) but i never had the courage to do anything about it. Now it's become stronger than ever BUT i'd rather live as a male for the rest of my life than being my true self and not being able to pass. I mean, passing to some people is not enough, i want to be perfectly fine by the end of my transition knowing that NO ONE will be suspicious about my past. So, im posting these pics and i want THE COLD HARD TRUTH, BE 100% HONEST, I DONT WANT WORDS OF COMFORT My biggest concern is my shoulders/overall body size. I know one of the most important parts to "pass" is mannerisms and face, but im pretty sure i can deal with my face (FFS and stuff). Anyway, sorry for the long post and for my English, its not my primary language! And thanks for any replies! PS: ok so i just read the post above me.. i guess 99% passing rate is fine.
PS2: i havent done anything to feminize my body, ever, because of the reasons above. Body structure is such a giveaway I THINK (not even starting transition before im 100% sure i'd be seen by everyone as a perfectly normal female, and if i never achieve that percentage, so be it, i'll be in a man's body forever)
Your shoulders are fine. You will lose muscle on hormones anyway.
I have large winter coats that can't fit me now. They look funny like if my 4 year old daughter is wearing it. I went from dress size 12 to size 8. I could barely fit a large top before I started now medium looks loose. At this rate I should fit size 4-6 soon. I lost weight but a lot of muscle too.
Quote from: kittenpower on March 22, 2015, 04:15:01 PM
you are on the cusp of masculinity and femininity, and I honestly cannot say for sure which one I see you as. but since you are wearing a hello kitty hoodie, I'll say female.
Oooooooh I like that answer :) I'm perfectly content with being a male, however I'm not a fan of the male "stereotype" if you will, like I like to wear cute things so people see me as a female lol I love fashion and colorful things and things that generally symbolize happiness. If I'm wearing something generally male such as dark shirts and pants or whatever I just feel down and my eyes turn dark and ugly. If I wear something colorful my eyes are a very bright green and I feel amazing :)
Gabrielle_22
Thanks for the advice, i am going to try again, with less intense eyes, thinner eyebrows but keep same color. Going to try the same look again tonight but just Version 2 ^-^
So I will post some more pics, with what i guess is natural looks, later on today. Thanks for all the advice, i know the pink and blue was overdone, but I just like these colors.
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 23, 2015, 11:03:38 AM
And yeah, I get the part about bad hair, no makeup, walking the dog kind of clothes... to an extent. But to me "passing" is a spectrum. "Completely passing" is another but I think that is an impossibility.
I agree with this. If you make someone deliberately look for even the smallest cues for cis/trans, male/female, then I am sure many cis women would fail to 'pass' as well. e.g. have 1 trans woman stand in a queue with 10 cis women or 1 cis woman in a queue of 10 trans women, and ask which one is trans or cis, and I am sure many will goof up. It's just that most people do not even think about all these things on a day-to-day basis.
Our problem is that we are predisposed to look for these small cues, more in ourselves than in anyone else, and then keep beating ourselves over it.
After being here and on other sites with trans related info, I now know how chins, hairlines, eyes, eyebrows, cheeks etc are different for men and women and I might now look for these differences more deliberately. Earlier, I may have been subtly aware of it but not so much, and I come across many cis women every day who have some of these masculine features that we talk about here and yet they don't get mis-gendered simply because of their presentation and attitude.
Quote from: codyfletcher on March 23, 2015, 11:10:47 AM
Oooooooh I like that answer :) I'm perfectly content with being a male, however I'm not a fan of the male "stereotype" if you will, like I like to wear cute things so people see me as a female lol I love fashion and colorful things and things that generally symbolize happiness. If I'm wearing something generally male such as dark shirts and pants or whatever I just feel down and my eyes turn dark and ugly. If I wear something colorful my eyes are a very bright green and I feel amazing :)
Thank goodness for people who challenge the sterotypes! :police:
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It's not like we can predict the future... You don't look very feminine, to me it's just a boy-body wearing shorts, sorry for the misgendering, I meant the body not yourself. However it's not really the short, but you really don't have much of a waist, which can be a very feminine thing, and hrt can help that as well as waist training. You shoulders don't look too broad, but yeah the lower part doesn't read much female to me at this point, but this is your start, it's not like you should expect more than that, and about the future, I don't know, it's genetics, look if you mom or sister have a hourglass figure, and make your suppositions from that.
However you're probably going to be fine due to your young age too, 24 is a duable age.
Quote from: femmebutt on March 23, 2015, 10:53:16 AM
If you don't get hit on you fail the inspection, obviously.
That's so stupid you don't need to be pretty in order to pass, so you really don't need to get hit on, and beauty is objective, we are talking about passing here. I know you were being sarcastic but I see this as a common way of thinking it too, and it's wrong to my opinion.
Besides that the videos are a good idea, if you want one, but there is a voice thread separate from here, and I do post my transition monthly vlogs about hrt here too sometimes to get feedback on stuff, but some people don't need feedback on their voice or mannerism so they don't want to post a video.
Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 23, 2015, 02:17:27 PM
...stupid ... beauty is objective... sarcastic ... I see this as a common way of thinking it too, and it's wrong to my opinion.
Zackly. Thanks for reaffirming my point.
Hey! Thanks for the replies. I'll look for professionals to help me go through this and god help me! I deleted the original post because i dont need everyone seeing who I "was". Hopefully i'll be back here soon with decent results!!! I'm actually excited. Im gonna save those pics tho for a comparison between ground 0 then 4-5 years later :P
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The Raisin's give it a thumbs up! :laugh: But you have nice hair and a smile and a great glow.
Guilty of being a girl...u look great
As a cat, you pass perfectly. I would never think you were presumed dog at birth. [emoji1]
Andro, I'll be very candid with you because in many ways we have the same struggles. You are like me when I say that you constantly in need of validation of who you are - your womanhood and I will tell you that we will grow old very disappointed about the world. So I decided to take the route of affirming myself more than relying on cues from strangers.
I honestly think you have start respecting yourself and loving it more. Passing I know is a delicate balance of appearance, posture and voice. However, I rarely get the second looks now and I have been noticing that lately coz you know why - I don't pay attention to it anymore. CIS woman pass because to them it's all natural. Some do walk and talk like a trucker and yet they pass. Yes appearance counts but you already have that so own it.
Passing to me is like "acting" so I hate that term sorry. I am a woman and I own it.
Womanhood is not a test, it is a way of living. There's no pass or fail - it just is.
P.S. Since taking on this attitude, I was asked by a barrista on a date. Unfortunately, I am not into women.
Love and Respect,
April
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 22, 2015, 06:12:05 PM
I don't want to though! I'm just tired of being so ostracized, getting weird looks...and I'm scared that nobody is ever going to love me. I'm a girl...I just wish I was treated differently.
Quote from: carmenkate on March 24, 2015, 09:28:12 PM
Andro, I'll be very candid with you because in many ways we have the same struggles. You are like me when I say that you constantly in need of validation of who you are - your womanhood and I will tell you that we will grow old very disappointed about the world. So I decided to take the route of affirming myself more than relying on cues from strangers.
I honestly think you have start respecting yourself and loving it more. Passing I know is a delicate balance of appearance, posture and voice. However, I rarely get the second looks now and I have been noticing that lately coz you know why - I don't pay attention to it anymore. CIS woman pass because to them it's all natural. Some do walk and talk like a trucker and yet they pass. Yes appearance counts but you already have that so own it.
Passing to me is like "acting" so I hate that term sorry. I am a woman and I own it.
Womanhood is not a test, it is a way of living. There's no pass or fail - it just is.
P.S. Since taking on this attitude, I was asked by a barrista on a date. Unfortunately, I am not into women.
Love and Respect,
April
Nobody has ever asked me out. Ever. Like, ever. And THAT'S how I know I don't pass.
Also, attitude doesn't have much of anything to do with it. It's about how you look. It's not like my femininity is an act or anything. I jsut act naturaly. The only thing I need to try and improve consciously is my posture. People stare. And that's too much for me right now. I desperately want to be wanted by someone, anyone.
Andro just because you haven't been asked out doesn't mean you don't pass. Lots of woman, CIS woman at that, haven't been asked out either. As far being looked at as woman get looked at a lot. They could be looking at what were wearing or our makeup or hair, but again that doesn't mean we don't pass. We are always judged by everyone around us that isn't limited to just us trans woman but the CIS woman too. It comes with the territory unfortunately. I have no doubt in the right place and time you will get asked out, but the best thing you can do is be yourself and be proud of the person you are and as a result hold your head high. I have a feeling the posture will come along with it because the happier you are the more likely the posture will be improved as well without having to try and do anything. I will say this again because I feel it bares repeating and that is you pass a lot more than you think and fairly attractive at that. I hope someday you can see that in yourself. Good Luck and hugs
Mariah
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 24, 2015, 09:32:14 PM
Nobody has ever asked me out. Ever. Like, ever. And THAT'S how I know I don't pass.
Also, attitude doesn't have much of anything to do with it. It's about how you look. It's not like my femininity is an act or anything. I jsut act naturaly. The only thing I need to try and improve consciously is my posture. People stare. And that's too much for me right now. I desperately want to be wanted by someone, anyone.
Hahaha. I've never dated someone I didn't hate, who didn't care for me, or who I wasn't ashamed of. I guess I'm just ugly then?
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 24, 2015, 09:32:14 PM
Nobody has ever asked me out. Ever. Like, ever. And THAT'S how I know I don't pass.
Also, attitude doesn't have much of anything to do with it. It's about how you look. It's not like my femininity is an act or anything. I jsut act naturaly. The only thing I need to try and improve consciously is my posture. People stare. And that's too much for me right now. I desperately want to be wanted by someone, anyone.
Hmm I dunno girl. I will tell ya when I was dating women as a guy i passed over some pretty ones because their attitude sucked badly. Meanwhile I had the most fun with some really much less than attractive girls. One of them I'm still friends with to this day. A girl I really liked liked just ordinary but she liked fast cars and tech which I like.
But if you're looking for a supermodel forget it. I wouldn't date one anyway.
I'm pretty sure I pass now because of feedback I get now. Apart from calling me ma'am or miss I get treated like a woman by men and women alike. But as I've said I'm not really extraordinary looking. I'm more or less ordinary, trust me that is my biggest asset. I don't stand out, don't get scrutinized and therefore don't raise suspicion.
In your case you have the colored hair and the hairstyle and a few other things **that are easy to fix** that will help you pass. I know you like the queer look and all but that is not what passes. That's what looks queer (which is fine if you can accept that queer doesn't blend in).
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 24, 2015, 09:57:42 PM
Hahaha. I've never dated someone I didn't hate, who didn't care for me, or who I wasn't ashamed of. I guess I'm just ugly then?
Well it's you saying that so it must be true?
I give up hon...
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 24, 2015, 09:32:14 PM
Nobody has ever asked me out. Ever. Like, ever. And THAT'S how I know I don't pass.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 24, 2015, 09:57:42 PM
Hahaha. I've never dated someone I didn't hate, who didn't care for me, or who I wasn't ashamed of. I guess I'm just ugly then?
As others have said already, this happens with cis women too - not getting asked out or ending up with jerks, and that may make them question their attractiveness or their femininity. Yes, even their femininity - I have personally seen situations where both guys and girls can be so insensitive to a cis woman who is unattractive to them that they even question her femininity. I have also seen situations where appearance may lead to not just not getting asked out or getting stared at, but being ignored or passed over for jobs as well. A cis woman could be really really smart, like one in a million smart, and yet have trouble finding a job if she doesn't fit someone else's perception of beauty. It does not mean that those making such judgments genuinely doubt whether she is trans, it simply means that they are jerks and are projecting their own shallowness and insecurities onto others.
If that's what others do to you, just ignore them and move on. Easier said than done, but it's the only way out.
Btw, appearance doesn't seem to be the problem in your case. The queer-looking hairstyle / hair color or maybe some other features might raise a few eyebrows, but it's your own self-hating attitude (which we've seen quite a bit of already) that may give out cues which other people pick on.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 24, 2015, 09:57:42 PM
Hahaha. I've never dated someone I didn't hate, who didn't care for me, or who I wasn't ashamed of. I guess I'm just ugly then?
I'm sorry but right now Im just getting annoyed. You're getting all the support you possibly can get here. There is no "thank you" or something. All you talk about is looks. Of course ones personality and attitude counts. If you walk out the door insecure and also masculine obviously it matters.
And since you at all times get back to how ugly or masculine you are; people have told you what they think you could change to "pass" more - there nothing more to discuss. Everyone has said the same thing. Take the advice and do something about it and stop whine and being 12 years old and be miserable because of how you look. We all look different. There tall women, short women. There's skinny and fat women. There is good looking women and ugly women but it is all in the eyes of the beholder.
I just feel no matter what advice we give or how much we tell you that you are good looking. Right now you are decided that you think ur ugly and not passing. So no matter what we say - it won't change you're opinion. You have to work on it urself.
I'm sorry. You're right. I'm just wasting all of your time. Thanks for putting up with me. Thanks for the advice. I'm so sorry for lurking like this and dragging everyone down with me :(
There's nothing to be sorry for - I just feel like we are giving so much support now when you need it. But you've got the totally wrong mindset. If that could change I think you are able to read all the thing we've said again and take our advice!
You have nothing to be sorry about. It's much better on here seeking advice than not seek advice and other things occurring. I really do you stay around because your certainly not dragging us down I would like to believe were helping bring you up. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 25, 2015, 12:18:43 AM
I'm sorry. You're right. I'm just wasting all of your time. Thanks for putting up with me. Thanks for the advice. I'm so sorry for lurking like this and dragging everyone down with me :(
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 25, 2015, 12:18:43 AM
I'm sorry. You're right. I'm just wasting all of your time. Thanks for putting up with me. Thanks for the advice. I'm so sorry for lurking like this and dragging everyone down with me :(
Honestly I think you really need to go seek some help. No really. My take is that this goes well beyond just passing and you have some other issues that need looking into. You should really do this not just for your trans issues but for life in general. Sorry but that's just how I see it. I really hate to see you eat yourself up like this. I personally haven't given up on you but there's only so much we can say or do.
I agree, Andro. You need more help than comments on a message board. I'm a big believer in therapy, even if it's just talk therapy. Your self-esteem issues go beyond just being transgender, it seems. I can understand your feelings, I've been there. Many of us have. You're not wasting anyone's time. We wouldn't be responding if we didn't care. You are worthy of love, not only from others, but from yourself. Learn to love yourself and the other love will follow.
Good luck and hugs! Remember you are not alone.
I just felt that this talk might be helpful in light of our recent discussion here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,185411.0.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,185411.0.html)
Been having a hard time lately and just dont see anything but the old me...I'm attaching a photo I need honest feedback on whether there is hope for me, I have been FT for almost 6 months and although I have never been 'called out' I just feel like mirrors are starting to haunt me again.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi296.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm168%2Fkhansell1987%2FDSC_0021_zpshep8o8hy.jpg&hash=69a3d4b4463b419418cfe616346ae3279793371f) (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/khansell1987/media/DSC_0021_zpshep8o8hy.jpg.html)
please me honest I'm a big girl I can take it.
Quote from: kao on March 25, 2015, 06:40:31 PM
Been having a hard time lately and just dont see anything but the old me...I'm attaching a photo I need honest feedback on whether there is hope for me, I have been FT for almost 6 months and although I have never been 'called out' I just feel like mirrors are starting to haunt me again.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi296.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm168%2Fkhansell1987%2FDSC_0021_zpshep8o8hy.jpg&hash=69a3d4b4463b419418cfe616346ae3279793371f) (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/khansell1987/media/DSC_0021_zpshep8o8hy.jpg.html)
please me honest I'm a big girl I can take it.
Honesty - I would say it's borderline but with clothes and accessories you'd pass.
In this pic it would make me stop and think though but you really do lean on the side of female.
mmmmmm,
Just because you aren't passing doesn't mean people will always misgender you. I know firsthand that oftentimes people WILL know, but simply won't react.
Quote from: kao on March 25, 2015, 06:40:31 PM
Been having a hard time lately and just dont see anything but the old me...I'm attaching a photo I need honest feedback on whether there is hope for me, I have been FT for almost 6 months and although I have never been 'called out' I just feel like mirrors are starting to haunt me again.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi296.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm168%2Fkhansell1987%2FDSC_0021_zpshep8o8hy.jpg&hash=69a3d4b4463b419418cfe616346ae3279793371f) (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/khansell1987/media/DSC_0021_zpshep8o8hy.jpg.html)
please me honest I'm a big girl I can take it.
I'm going to have to agree with her and say that you aren't there yet. Before you think about FFS (trust me, I know how inaccessibly expensive it can be), you might want to consider trying your hand at contouring makeup. That's always a good place to start.
Quote from: mmmmm on March 25, 2015, 06:59:33 PM
What exactly do you mean by not being "called out"? You are full-time, how do people (strangers) you interact with gender you?
Based on this only facial photo, I would read you as male. (if I forget I'm on a transgender support website)... I can't tell how would I read you in real life interaction, based on just this no-make-up photo.
I have seen many trans women, who honestly had much less promising starting point as you, transition successfully to being completely passable (not just 93% passable). Have you thought about FFS?
call out as in misgendered or treated disrespectfully/insulted for been trans* as for the photo it was a no makeup just showered to see how it would turn out, i didnt see the point of putting on makeup when as I dont need to go out today and I dont see the point of just wearing it around the house. FFS is something that is out of the question as I will likely never afford it as I am unable to work currently due to health issues. I am glad you think I have some promise and I understand alot of me been able to pass comes down to self confidence I have a friend who, although it isn't a nice thing to do, points out women who look more like a man than I do or did and take less care of themselves (which annoys me sometimes as they are still women but I have to put alot of effort in just to not get stared)
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 25, 2015, 06:47:25 PM
Honesty - I would say it's borderline but with clothes and accessories you'd pass.
In this pic it would make me stop and think though but you really do lean on the side of female.
Thank you I know this isn't a great picture to have used.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 25, 2015, 07:07:08 PM
mmmmmm,
Just because you aren't passing doesn't mean people will always misgender you. I know firsthand that oftentimes people WILL know, but simply won't react.
I'm going to have to agree with her and say that you aren't there yet. Before you think about FFS (trust me, I know how inaccessibly expensive it can be), you might want to consider trying your hand at contouring makeup. That's always a good place to start.
I have been teaching myself contouring thanks to youtube, so many videos so little time. I understand that some people will notice but not say anything but that is itself is fine with me at least in some sense I am accepted and not attacked for trying to be me if that makes sense. Should I post the photo of me prior to me starting my transition? Oh and I am not on HRT yet while I am aware it is not a magic pill I am still looking forward to it.
Alrighty, here's another no makeup pic. I'm closing in on 5 months. I plan on legally changing my documentation and going full time within the next few months. Every time I've posted pictures since I've hit the three month mark have been overwhelmingly positive and honestly helped me in so many ways! I greatly appreciate it from the bottom of my heart! I'll likely post more pictures the closer I get to crunch time, but as of now, with no makeup, do I pass? It's honestly like getting ready to go skydiving or something the first time. It's so exciting, yet so scary and nerve wrecking too. As always, any and all feedback, positive or not, is greatly appreciated! Thank you all so much! :D
*other pictures are in this thread as well, though a little ways back, if you'd like to see other angles. I seldom get to be myself, so I dont have a lot of them to share and don't want to get redundant and post the same ones.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsvfd7rskd.jpg&hash=6644a89e56bb868139c3c7e78e0466d7bcd257b1) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsvfd7rskd.jpg.html)
Looks pretty good Alyssa! I would say definite pass.
Quote from: kao on March 25, 2015, 06:40:31 PM
Been having a hard time lately and just dont see anything but the old me...I'm attaching a photo I need honest feedback on whether there is hope for me, I have been FT for almost 6 months and although I have never been 'called out' I just feel like mirrors are starting to haunt me again.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi296.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm168%2Fkhansell1987%2FDSC_0021_zpshep8o8hy.jpg&hash=69a3d4b4463b419418cfe616346ae3279793371f) (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/khansell1987/media/DSC_0021_zpshep8o8hy.jpg.html)
please me honest I'm a big girl I can take it.
i think because you have a long face, and long distances between lips/chin, and lip/nose it reads more male to me. i would try and cover your forehead more with bangs. also taking selfies up close will often distort the face a bit, so its possible that its making your face more longer than it actually is.
Quote from: michelle82 on March 26, 2015, 01:57:08 PM
i think because you have a long face, and long distances between lips/chin, and lip/nose it reads more male to me. i would try and cover your forehead more with bangs. also taking selfies up close will often distort the face a bit, so its possible that its making your face more longer than it actually is.
I suck at taking photos of myself I think I had the camera above eye level so looking up which could have caused it and the camera on my phone is a bit crap at times and stretches the image if i move it down right after taking a photo. My hair isn't usually back like that it was wet so it was just brushed straight back it usually covers part of the forehead I think the lip to nose is gap looks worse because of my big nose >.<
Hi all!
It's been a while since I posted here, and yesterday was my 5-month mark on HRT.
I posted in the before/after thread and didn't get much response, so here I am double-dipping.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F599580C6-F036-48F6-A47A-881D1E9170F9.jpg&hash=5edecedf8a9d0eabc573ac50c449b520a3e0604c) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/599580C6-F036-48F6-A47A-881D1E9170F9.jpg.html)
I really like this dress. It's my new favorite, :)
-Teg
Quote from: Alyssa Rae on March 26, 2015, 05:40:25 AM
Alrighty, here's another no makeup pic. I'm closing in on 5 months. I plan on legally changing my documentation and going full time within the next few months. Every time I've posted pictures since I've hit the three month mark have been overwhelmingly positive and honestly helped me in so many ways! I greatly appreciate it from the bottom of my heart! I'll likely post more pictures the closer I get to crunch time, but as of now, with no makeup, do I pass? It's honestly like getting ready to go skydiving or something the first time. It's so exciting, yet so scary and nerve wrecking too. As always, any and all feedback, positive or not, is greatly appreciated! Thank you all so much! :D
*other pictures are in this thread as well, though a little ways back, if you'd like to see other angles. I seldom get to be myself, so I dont have a lot of them to share and don't want to get redundant and post the same ones.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsvfd7rskd.jpg&hash=6644a89e56bb868139c3c7e78e0466d7bcd257b1) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsvfd7rskd.jpg.html)
If it wasn't that you came from here i would NEVER know the difference, insanely passable.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/11016596_1625349741020295_240756502_n.jpg?oh=e81ca64d0c1f184d9b59ca41b477c9b3&oe=55178C12&__gda__=1427614850_34c8882ec4b5e91a6509754fed0cb16e)
First day in my life using lipstick haha
But away from home, I go out as a man yet.... I hope that with my long hair, and with the magic of hormones, I'll be able to pass in some months...
Honestly I don't think you have much to worry about, you have such great facial features that it's going to be a breeze for you.
I bet you within 3 months of hormones and longer hair you will be able to go out in any kind of clothing without makeup and pass.
Quote from: SueMuksen on March 27, 2015, 09:07:26 AM
First day in my life using lipstick haha
But away from home, I go out as a man yet.... I hope that with my long hair, and with the magic of hormones, I'll be able to pass in some months...
Quote from: SueMuksen on March 27, 2015, 09:07:26 AM
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First day in my life using lipstick haha
But away from home, I go out as a man yet.... I hope that with my long hair, and with the magic of hormones, I'll be able to pass in some months...
You kind of remind me of Emma Watson a little.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.short-haircut.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F12%2FEmma-Watsons-Very-Cute-Pixie-Cut.jpg&hash=d830a0e5bc213754c34d75ef21116b7ff83b7e60)
OMG, really? O.o
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1127.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl629%2Fnevascas%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FPSX_20150327_185409_zpsjbjibixp.jpg&hash=6c86a5f9848c5be4e71bfa9469ba8696b2af870d)
This one i took from another angle - and applied some filter. Enough to change your mind about it? xD
Quote from: SueMuksen on March 27, 2015, 05:04:23 PM
OMG, really? O.o
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1127.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl629%2Fnevascas%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FPSX_20150327_185409_zpsjbjibixp.jpg&hash=6c86a5f9848c5be4e71bfa9469ba8696b2af870d)
This one i took from another angle - and applied some filter. Enough to change your mind about it? xD
Shape those brows and watch magic happen.
well i mean for sure I can see a short haired cute girl there, with a pixie cut, but I am sure you are wanting longer, I personally like Emma Watson and especially Hillary Swank, so maybe its just what I am seeing.
(https://mangomustache.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/url4.jpeg)
Let us put it this way, you look more girly than I do and I am approaching 6 months, you will be a PEACH of a lady, Im still a watermelon
Yeeeey! :D
Quote from: SueMuksen on March 27, 2015, 09:07:26 AM
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First day in my life using lipstick haha
But away from home, I go out as a man yet.... I hope that with my long hair, and with the magic of hormones, I'll be able to pass in some months...
You already pass and period.
barbie~~
Quote from: SueMuksen on March 27, 2015, 05:04:23 PM
OMG, really? O.o
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This one i took from another angle - and applied some filter. Enough to change your mind about it? xD
Applying filter imparts the nearly same effects of makeup or facial enhancement treatment. Solely based on the photo, you look very attractive regardless of your gender.
barbie~~
Quote from: SueMuksen on March 27, 2015, 05:04:23 PM
OMG, really? O.o
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1127.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl629%2Fnevascas%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FPSX_20150327_185409_zpsjbjibixp.jpg&hash=6c86a5f9848c5be4e71bfa9469ba8696b2af870d)
This one i took from another angle - and applied some filter. Enough to change your mind about it? xD
Gorgeous! You are very passable, and in a few months noone will be able to tell. I am suprised if they are able to tell now. Emma Watson - 110%
Hey so I'm completely new here, and new to... All this. It's really wierd to find a community like this and have more to talk to than just my conflicting thoughts :) cheers guys. Anyway here's my entry, if you want to call it that, given that I've only just admitted it to myself that I feel this way (I'm 19 at this point having known something was up since early,high school) let alone anyone else- so we'll leave that for now. :P
I guess my question is "eventually could I pass", and do you guys have some tips and steps to help me out? I'm very much in the closet at he moment but I did buy my first female clothes today C: just some leggings and a tank top, nothing fancy. Anyway enough! Here's my pic.
http://m.imgur.com/W77nVKE
Quote from: Caitlyn Turner on March 27, 2015, 06:54:34 PM
Hey so I'm completely new here, and new to... All this. It's really wierd to find a community like this and have more to talk to than just my conflicting thoughts :) cheers guys. Anyway here's my entry, if you want to call it that, given that I've only just admitted it to myself that I feel this way (I'm 19 at this point having known something was up since early,high school) let alone anyone else- so we'll leave that for now. :P
I guess my question is "eventually could I pass", and do you guys have some tips and steps to help me out? I'm very much in the closet at he moment but I did buy my first female clothes today C: just some leggings and a tank top, nothing fancy. Anyway enough! Here's my pic.
http://m.imgur.com/W77nVKE
honestly I think you are off to a great start. You have good features :)
Went for some color and a re-style, I think this looks very age appropriate for a lady of my age:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zeeP1oN7vbI/VRa3LPL3ZZI/AAAAAAAAApM/d56A9qKS11o/w348-h522-no/IMAG0704.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pBrMnZqAoT8/VRa3JNftjSI/AAAAAAAAApE/5zNfwVkFcRw/w348-h522-no/IMAG0702.jpg)
I've gotten many positive comments from lady's who are many years into transitioning, including surprise that I'm pre-HRT.
Hugs,
-Alana
Quote from: SueMuksen on March 27, 2015, 09:07:26 AM
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First day in my life using lipstick haha
But away from home, I go out as a man yet.... I hope that with my long hair, and with the magic of hormones, I'll be able to pass in some months...
Uhm, I hate to tell you this, but your face is stunning. Even with a short haircut, you could easily pass. Of course I don't know what the rest of you looks like but.... a face like that is all you need.
Cindi
Quote from: Alana_Jane on March 28, 2015, 10:45:18 AM
Went for some color and a re-style, I think this looks very age appropriate for a lady of my age:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zeeP1oN7vbI/VRa3LPL3ZZI/AAAAAAAAApM/d56A9qKS11o/w348-h522-no/IMAG0704.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pBrMnZqAoT8/VRa3JNftjSI/AAAAAAAAApE/5zNfwVkFcRw/w348-h522-no/IMAG0702.jpg)
I've gotten many positive comments from lady's who are many years into transitioning, including surprise that I'm pre-HRT.
Hugs,
-Alana
You look quite good especially for pre HRT.
Looking great girl!!!
Quote from: Alana_Jane on March 28, 2015, 10:45:18 AM
Went for some color and a re-style, I think this looks very age appropriate for a lady of my age:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zeeP1oN7vbI/VRa3LPL3ZZI/AAAAAAAAApM/d56A9qKS11o/w348-h522-no/IMAG0704.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pBrMnZqAoT8/VRa3JNftjSI/AAAAAAAAApE/5zNfwVkFcRw/w348-h522-no/IMAG0702.jpg)
I've gotten many positive comments from lady's who are many years into transitioning, including surprise that I'm pre-HRT.
Hugs,
-Alana
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZjpkW7e.jpg&hash=eb96e307548d3f8632468e0d9a3bd781c9b84bdf)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FH9pMP6N.jpg&hash=83ace37fa16464ede7badfa2a92bcd626adcc5ee)
Hey everyone,
Can I get some honest(brutally honest) feedback on my current shape of my mid area. Am I currently passable or need work and where?
I'm thinking maybe waist/corset training with trying to gain a pound or two too add to my hip fat.
About Self: 6FT even, 118 pounds. The shirt is skin tight, so what you see is what I have to work with.
I left the face out as I have issues with my face and I know it is in rough shape right now, but I am getting FFS soon(Just have to save it up)
Anyways... enough rambling.
Quote from: akegia on March 28, 2015, 02:26:11 PM
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FH9pMP6N.jpg&hash=83ace37fa16464ede7badfa2a92bcd626adcc5ee)
Hey everyone,
Can I get some honest(brutally honest) feedback on my current shape of my mid area. Am I currently passable or need work and where?
I'm thinking maybe waist/corset training with trying to gain a pound or two too add to my hip fat.
About Self: 6FT even, 118 pounds. The shirt is skin tight, so what you see is what I have to work with.
I left the face out as I have issues with my face and I know it is in rough shape right now, but I am getting FFS soon(Just have to save it up)
Anyways... enough rambling.
Looks plenty passable to me. You're on HRT, right?
(https://i.imgur.com/sBYyQ1Q.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FLo0ArC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0VewF64.png)
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on March 27, 2015, 01:28:41 AM
Hi all!
It's been a while since I posted here, and yesterday was my 5-month mark on HRT.
I posted in the before/after thread and didn't get much response, so here I am double-dipping.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F599580C6-F036-48F6-A47A-881D1E9170F9.jpg&hash=5edecedf8a9d0eabc573ac50c449b520a3e0604c) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/599580C6-F036-48F6-A47A-881D1E9170F9.jpg.html)
I really like this dress. It's my new favorite, :)
-Teg
Wow Tegan! Looking great. You should be smiling more! ^-^ Look at the difference in those picts.
I like that dress too!
-Jade
:-*
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on March 27, 2015, 01:28:41 AM
Hi all!
It's been a while since I posted here, and yesterday was my 5-month mark on HRT.
I posted in the before/after thread and didn't get much response, so here I am double-dipping.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F599580C6-F036-48F6-A47A-881D1E9170F9.jpg&hash=5edecedf8a9d0eabc573ac50c449b520a3e0604c) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/599580C6-F036-48F6-A47A-881D1E9170F9.jpg.html)
I really like this dress. It's my new favorite, :)
-Teg
Beautiful dress and nice changes after just five months !!! I may add that you should smile :) the will improve the picture a lot more :)!!
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 28, 2015, 08:17:43 PM
Looks plenty passable to me. You're on HRT, right?
Yes, I was on Pill HRT for a few months but it proved to be less then effective. Now I am on the Patch which seems to be working much better. :)
Quote from: Jade_404 on March 28, 2015, 11:15:17 PM
Wow Tegan! Looking great. You should be smiling more! ^-^ Look at the difference in those picts.
I like that dress too!
-Jade
:-*
Quote from: mzaomz on March 28, 2015, 11:58:40 PM
Beautiful dress and nice changes after just five months !!! I may add that you should smile :) the will improve the picture a lot more :)!!
Thank you, girls. How's this?
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Cheers,
Tegan
Quote from: kao on March 25, 2015, 06:40:31 PM
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I would try to pluck those eyebrows a little bit more and fill them in with a make up pencil or something because they look very light. Also long hair usually help with passing, maybe you can try something different for your hair... Also try smiling more!
Quote from: Alana_Jane on March 28, 2015, 10:45:18 AM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zeeP1oN7vbI/VRa3LPL3ZZI/AAAAAAAAApM/d56A9qKS11o/w348-h522-no/IMAG0704.jpg)
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Alana, you're a really nice looking lady! I think you can quite pass already, you have a feminine hairstyle, and when you will get on hrt it will be even better! Good luck on your transition!
Quote from: Caitlyn Turner on March 27, 2015, 06:54:34 PM
Hey so I'm completely new here, and new to... All this. It's really wierd to find a community like this and have more to talk to than just my conflicting thoughts :) cheers guys. Anyway here's my entry, if you want to call it that, given that I've only just admitted it to myself that I feel this way (I'm 19 at this point having known something was up since early,high school) let alone anyone else- so we'll leave that for now. :P
I guess my question is "eventually could I pass", and do you guys have some tips and steps to help me out? I'm very much in the closet at he moment but I did buy my first female clothes today C: just some leggings and a tank top, nothing fancy. Anyway enough! Here's my pic.
http://m.imgur.com/W77nVKE
Ok well you need to try some make up don,t go overboard, and do not think that you will do that later, you need to start practicing as soon as possible. Pluck the eyebrows, maybe you can somewhere to get them done, it will be easier, if it's your first time... You're young enough to get great results with hrt. Also relax your face, you kind of look very intense, it's not really a feminine thing. Good luck with your transition!
I am sure I pass when people watch my body, but still not sure about my face.
I am not on HRT.
Do I look female or male?
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8753/16964415425_fbf2d1fa4f_b.jpg)
barbie~~
Quote from: barbie on March 29, 2015, 04:58:54 AM
I am sure I pass when people watch my body, but still not sure about my face.
I am not on HRT.
Do I look female or male?
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8753/16964415425_fbf2d1fa4f_b.jpg)
barbie~~
You look very femme in this picture. If you wanted a 100% yes or no though, I'd suggest making a quick video of yourself doing something natural. We, as perfectionists, tend to post only the best of the thousand pictures we took today. A video won't let you hide anything. Just my opinion. But furthermore; I've seen quite a lot of your pictures around the forum. And still, I say you easily pass. If I'd seen the girl I see in these photos on the street I wouldn't even think twice.
Quote from: Danielle Emmalee on March 28, 2015, 10:51:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/sBYyQ1Q.jpg)
God girl. You are pretty :) Super pass.
Recent bunches of pictures! Had a blast taking them! Wondering what everyone thinks. (other than I'm turning into a camera whore lol)
Still pre-HRT. Now full time at home and around friends/family. Still too scared to go out in public yet. Getting more confident with my makeup though :D
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Quote from: Rotika on March 29, 2015, 05:17:22 AM
You look very femme in this picture. If you wanted a 100% yes or no though, I'd suggest making a quick video of yourself doing something natural.
I asked some of my old friends on this photo, and they are just busy teasing me.
Anyway, I think it is a good idea to take a video. Usually, I take videos only for my kids, and now it is my turn. I have a nice camcorder, but right now I do not. Instead, my camera can take a video clip. As you know, I am not good at video editing. Just a crude video clip.
http://youtu.be/7aqdRIyctyA
Yes. Making a video featuring myself is funny.
barbie~~
Quote from: barbie on March 29, 2015, 07:06:21 AM
I asked some of my old friends on this photo, and they are just busy teasing me.
Anyway, I think it is a good idea to take a video. Usually, I take videos only for my kids, and now it is my turn. I have a nice camcorder, but right now I do not. Instead, my camera can take a video clip. As you know, I am not good at video editing. Just a crude video clip.
barbie~~
Hun, you pass. Even moreso in the video than in any of your pictures. Your face is VERY femme :)
Quote from: Rotika on March 29, 2015, 05:56:36 AM
Recent bunches of pictures! Had a blast taking them! Wondering what everyone thinks. (other than I'm turning into a camera whore lol)
Still pre-HRT. Now full time at home and around friends/family. Still too scared to go out in public yet. Getting more confident with my makeup though :D
you look great! i cant believe you arent on hrt yet, definitely a pass :)
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 28, 2015, 12:28:36 PM
You look quite good especially for pre HRT.
Quote from: Jessie Ann on March 28, 2015, 12:43:08 PM
Looking great girl!!!
Quote from: Serena ♡ on March 29, 2015, 02:28:38 AM
Alana, you're a really nice looking lady! I think you can quite pass already, you have a feminine hairstyle, and when you will get on hrt it will be even better! Good luck on your transition!
Thank you Lady's!
-Alana
Quote from: Rotika on March 29, 2015, 05:28:22 AM
God girl. You are pretty :) Super pass.
Thanks babe!
Simple question...how do you post pictures mine wont show up...keep trying wont work..help.
Ok , for the past few weeks when I'm out running I get the impression that I'm being seen by some as my correct instead of birth gender. It's nothing overt but more just a feeling based on body language and such. So, here are a few pics from earlier today. (I'm 55 so not looking to be compared to a beauty queen, LOL)
Do you think my perception might be right or is it all wishful thinking? I've been on HRT for 2 months and will be loosing about 20 more pounds. I'm also just a bit under 5'11".
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff341%2Fdebbie7571%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F0D19DF88-3474-46EE-88BA-D4399F386DCF_zpsx735wbu1.jpg&hash=d9142ebf392d373dddb7bacf637ada16f450b821) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/debbie7571/media/Mobile%20Uploads/0D19DF88-3474-46EE-88BA-D4399F386DCF_zpsx735wbu1.jpg.html)
LOL, in this one my stomach looks huge.
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Here's one from after. I met a couple of ladies I used to run with and they said they hardly recognized me with my hair getting longer. It used to be really short.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff341%2Fdebbie7571%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FA28B661A-4A5F-42DD-A2F4-48EF28836F64_zpsd7pzplyw.jpg&hash=b4ef2ca55258f0f743688fc9a8fc4256afea526b) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/debbie7571/media/Mobile%20Uploads/A28B661A-4A5F-42DD-A2F4-48EF28836F64_zpsd7pzplyw.jpg.html)
Barbie, I only noticed you walking, with only two steps in your video. Shorten your stride a little. Otherwise, you look great.
Deborah. Yes, let your hair grow out some more. I'm only a bit under 5' 10" and I like to wear 2.5 to 3 inch wedges with jeans and slacks. I don't worry about my height. No one else seems to mind either.
Rotika, the last shot in the blue light does not do you justice. I think you are coming along quite nicely. You have hips like mine! None. Wear hip huggers if you can get away with it. They seem to be in style now. But you probably already know that. Also, I really like your smile as opposed to your little pout. ;)
Cindi
Ok here goes nothing. I'm a bit scared to do this but I have decided to post a photo for the first time. I will no longer be faceless. So be nice. I am not out and have been working on losing weight so I put up a pic of me in December 2014 and some from now with make up and some fake hair. I have lost 25lbs since. I know I don't pass, but is there hope with the foundation you see. Either way here goes nothing.
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Stephee, I think I was about in your position. I assume you still have a beard? Do you think it shows in the pictures? I don't know if it is the lighting or five o'clock shadow. I think you'll have a very pretty face. How much do you currently weigh? The last shot is my favorite.
Here's my advice and it's free so it's worth every penney.
You have a nice smile. Use it.
Your eye makeup works but I'd go lighter on your cheeks. Perhaps it's because you are using a lot of foundation? It's hard for me to tell.
Here's a trick I used to use to make my face look more slender. Lightly apply a light color on your upper cheek, a darker color towards the center, the third and just a tad a bit to the rear and below the middle color. Then I'd find a brown powder and ever so lightly go from the bottom of my ear forward about an inch and a half. Experiment how far to go down. Brown will sort of provide a slimming effect so you can use it anywhere you want. But here's the thing. Use it sparingly!
Finally, when you do decide to go out, make sure to go to your favorite wig place and have them cut and style the wig for you. This took me two stupid years to figure out. I went through hell with the cheap wig look and people making fun of me. Make sure you ask them how to take care of it and keep it styled correctly. I bought a fairly expensive wig and got sort of a punk/Joan Jet cut that I really liked. It did NOT look punk on me. It looked great. Once I had that piece, I started passing easily in public. I had dark hair back then now it's blond. Go figure.
Another point about wigs. Try to get one to match your real hair color. Or dye your hair to match your wig. Brush some of your natural hair in front up into the front of the wig's hair. If you can do that right in front, no one will ever know you are wearing a piece.
Chin up.
Cindi
Quote from: Deborah on March 29, 2015, 02:07:44 PM
Ok , for the past few weeks when I'm out running I get the impression that I'm being seen by some as my correct instead of birth gender. It's nothing overt but more just a feeling based on body language and such. So, here are a few pics from earlier today. (I'm 55 so not looking to be compared to a beauty queen, LOL)
Do you think my perception might be right or is it all wishful thinking? I've been on HRT for 2 months and will be loosing about 20 more pounds. I'm also just a bit under 5'11".
Hi Deborah,
I will be completely honest - these pictures to me gender male except maybe very slightly the last one. Sorry. :(
Quote from: barbie on March 29, 2015, 07:06:21 AM
I asked some of my old friends on this photo, and they are just busy teasing me.
Anyway, I think it is a good idea to take a video. Usually, I take videos only for my kids, and now it is my turn. I have a nice camcorder, but right now I do not. Instead, my camera can take a video clip. As you know, I am not good at video editing. Just a crude video clip.
http://youtu.be/7aqdRIyctyA
Yes. Making a video featuring myself is funny.
barbie~~
Barbie, you pass quite well. You actually look very similar to a colleague of mine.
Cindi,
Thanks for the honesty. Yes probably some shadow in there. I used to weigh 320, im now down to 294. Years of repression and depression will make you eat to feel happy. I know I am a fat guy, around 5.8 or so. But Iam working on it...I like your make up tips, I can use them. Also the wig thing, is a huge help. Thanks for the smile thing, it helps.
Thanks, Rotika, Cindi and ImagineKate.
Yes. It is easy and funny to make a video clip. I am thinking shooting outdoors, as it is spring.
Probably today lunch time.
barbie~~
Quote from: Rotika on March 29, 2015, 05:56:36 AM
Recent bunches of pictures! Had a blast taking them! Wondering what everyone thinks. (other than I'm turning into a camera whore lol)
Still pre-HRT. Now full time at home and around friends/family. Still too scared to go out in public yet. Getting more confident with my makeup though :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FIMG_20150328_224418_zpsutiljudc.jpg&hash=cd633086cc0915dc5b80c6a07999c6b3cd336de3) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/IMG_20150328_224418_zpsutiljudc.jpg.html) | (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FIMG_20150328_232120_zpsgcc7hrli.jpg&hash=950db13806bbd4de6d83fa5f8bbc44353af9be1d) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/IMG_20150328_232120_zpsgcc7hrli.jpg.html) | (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FIMG_20150328_232018_zpsf7qzb2bj.jpg&hash=6403d94da945006859c56cd524a971ed8f423b19) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/IMG_20150328_232018_zpsf7qzb2bj.jpg.html) | (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff47%2FLexietgs%2Fcomingout%2FIMG_20150328_231620_zps85rrvypq.jpg&hash=51baa110d65b858271a205b2085f3148fe5b33ed) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/Lexietgs/media/comingout/IMG_20150328_231620_zps85rrvypq.jpg.html) |
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Hahaha, you look a bit like a more fem Mic Jagger! Good eyes, pretty good face all around; I'd contour a bit just to soften your face up, but you're doing pretty damn good if you ask me.
How do you people get so much boobs pre hrt? .
I wear a 36B push-up bra :)
I mean, I've been on hrt for two years but it hasn't really done much of anything. You do pad, right?
http://imgur.com/O5bEBjY (http://imgur.com/O5bEBjY)
No makeup, no female's cloth
Honestly, how do I look?
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 29, 2015, 09:06:33 PM
How do you people get so much boobs pre hrt? .
I wear 34A cup bra. Sometimes B cup.
Today I tried making an outdoor video clip. It is just a kind of test, and later I may take a nice shot as cherry started to blossom.
I am not quite sure whether I pass, but a lot of men turned their heads to me when I entered a restaurant here for lunch. Probably I am too tall as a woman here. I wore very conservatively, as I have two classes to teach on Monday.
http://youtu.be/YbThTlpo9b4
barbie~~
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 29, 2015, 09:17:24 PM
I wear a 36B push-up bra :)
I mean, I've been on hrt for two years but it hasn't really done much of anything. You do pad, right?
I sometimes wear a lightly padded bra, non push up. But it's just because my kids lean on my breasts and this softens the impact and also prevents my clothes from rubbing the nipples. It's not to enhance anything.
Quote from: AndreaLinda on March 29, 2015, 09:19:11 PM
http://imgur.com/O5bEBjY (http://imgur.com/O5bEBjY)
No makeup, no female's cloth
Honestly, how do I look?
Not bad. At a glance, pass.
Quote from: ImagineKate on March 29, 2015, 09:06:33 PM
How do you people get so much boobs pre hrt? .
The same way Cis-women without, and post mastectomy women do, with pads, padded bras, and breast forms. I started out with A-to-B (B-to-C pad are also available as well) cup pads and 38/40 B sized cups, now I've got a set of 40-C sized forms which have the mass of real tissue. I like the heft as it lets me know what the real ones will fee like mass-wise. Without the pads I'm a natural AA due to my pre-pubescent gyno. My forms where on special from the glamour boutique, for less than $60 shipped.
Some day I'll give the pads/forms to the next lady.
-Alana
Quote from: Rotika on March 29, 2015, 05:56:36 AM
Recent bunches of pictures! Had a blast taking them! Wondering what everyone thinks. (other than I'm turning into a camera whore lol)
Still pre-HRT. Now full time at home and around friends/family. Still too scared to go out in public yet. Getting more confident with my makeup though :D
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This is just IMHO, but I like the third picture in the top row and the second in the bottom. You have a pretty smile.
-Alana
Quote from: Alana_Jane on March 30, 2015, 09:56:40 AM
This is just IMHO, but I like the third picture in the top row and the second in the bottom. You have a pretty smile.
-Alana
Thanks, I know i keep posting here often. But I was starting to think about maybe going out in public like this sometime. Half the time the pictures don't really look like me though. I'm not photogenic at all.
Quote from: barbie on March 30, 2015, 02:39:56 AM
http://youtu.be/YbThTlpo9b4
barbie~~
You look gorgeous, I can't believe you can't pass... There are beautiful tall women out there, maybe not many where you live, but they must turn their heads to stare at your beauty!
Quote from: Rotika on March 30, 2015, 02:32:34 PM
Thanks, I know i keep posting here often. But I was starting to think about maybe going out in public like this sometime. Half the time the pictures don't really look like me though. I'm not photogenic at all.
You should totally get out and experience life in the gender you really are. I'm still experiencing new things, like last Sunday, I went shopping at our local Walmart, then for groceries. I'd not gone in there a few weeks ago because there was a large crowd of red-neck shoppers hanging around, and this time I just went in. I always see at least 2-3 people I know from elsewhere as well, this time I didn't see anyone. The world is your oyster, it's time you picked up the pearls and enjoyed yourself out in it.
-Alana
I tried playing around with contouring a little bit. I only had about 15 minutes to do my makeup. Thoughts?
(I know the eyebrows need to be worked on, they will be next month.)
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Quote from: ImagineKate on March 29, 2015, 09:06:33 PM
How do you people get so much boobs pre hrt? .
Forms + Nubra + Medical tape + Hopes and Dreams. :D
Quote from: Alana_Jane on March 30, 2015, 02:59:42 PM
You should totally get out and experience life in the gender you really are. I'm still experiencing new things, like last Sunday, I went shopping at our local Walmart, then for groceries. I'd not gone in there a few weeks ago because there was a large crowd of red-neck shoppers hanging around, and this time I just went in. I always see at least 2-3 people I know from elsewhere as well, this time I didn't see anyone. The world is your oyster, it's time you picked up the pearls and enjoyed yourself out in it.
-Alana
Oh I want to so bad. But I don't wanna be.. idk.. "that girl". I'm so scared I don't look/act like I think I do. I mean. How I perceive someone doesn't mean that's who THEY think they are. And visa versa. I just wanna know what I look like to ppl b4 I go out and get clocked/shunned/a pencil stabbed in my eye in the ladies' room. From pictures everyone sez I pass. So I guess what's next is to make a video of 2 of myself like I suggested to ~Barbie. Ppl like her and yourself inspire me. Out in public. Just not caring. For me though, it's new ground. And I'm slowly breaking the ice so I can touch it with both feet on the ground and an at least half developed plan in place. I still need a purse, shoes that fit (wish me luck omg), and work on my voice. I don't have the "flamboyancy" for lack of better term in my voice. I just have a deep manvoice. Which does NOT help me. lol.. anywayys. wow this got long. ;D
Quote from: Jessie Ann on March 31, 2015, 03:13:12 AM
I tried playing around with contouring a little bit. I only had about 15 minutes to do my makeup. Thoughts?
(I know the eyebrows need to be worked on, they will be next month.)
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With the orange/yellow light, it's really hard to tell what you've done darlin. Either the lighting isn't allowing me to see the contour job, or you've done SUCH a great job that it looks perfectly natural. My suggestion.. Take a before and after in full light next time for better opinions on here. :)
Quote from: barbie on March 30, 2015, 02:39:56 AM
http://youtu.be/YbThTlpo9b4
barbie~~
Ok darlin. I'm gunna step my critique up a notch for you since you seem like you want some input. Don't get upset plz. I mean all this in the best light I can possibly stand in.
The Walk.Pro. From your hips up, you look SUPER femme while walking. You have the shoulders and posture of a goddess. You even move that booty like you've had it your whole life.
Con. Below that booty seems to be a lot of insecurity. When you're stepping, it looks like you don't fully extend your knees. It looks un-natural and is kind've a giveaway that you haven't spent enough time in heels. Now, you did mention before that you are tall for a lady in your area. They're so cute.. but maybe give up the heels? Your outfit would still look great with flats I think. Up to you. I don't know how much you actualy stand out. You would turn my head.. but not from your height hun ;)
Body Language.Pro. You're screaming "educated classy lady" at the top of your lungs. Your posture and bodily mannerism (is that a good desciption??) are very loud. Some of us girls I think have issues with being "stiff". You do not.
Con1. Your hands. They're always confused about what the hell to do next. Especialy from about 0:06 in the movie. Your right hand has no idea what to do. If your camera isn't leaning up against your purse, get one. and put it on your shoulder and hold the front strap with one or even two hands like it's an umbrella over your shoulder.
Con2. Your hair. You playy with it. Alot. I'm not sure if that's a nervous twitch. But if you playy with it around men. Expect them to take it as you attracted to them. It's just one of those signs I learned to read in boymode that is probly correct about 80% of the time. Girls don't even realize they're doing it.
Smile. A+
Makeup. A+ Very natural look
Clothing. A+ Not my style. But I can tell you have a fashion sense well beyond my own. I like t shirts and jeans. I HIGHLY doubt I could pull off what you're wearing. You look very cute.
Hair. A+ I.AM.JELOUS.AND.I.HATE.YOU.SO.MUCH lol ;)
Voice. Maybe we can hear it next time? :D
Overall. YOU PASS VERY WELL!! 10/10
I hope this is the kind of feedback you were looking for hun. You're gorgeous and are likely the envy of many girls on here. (I know I'm jelous :P) You're doing great! *hugs*
Quote from: stephee72 on March 29, 2015, 03:55:11 PM
Ok here goes nothing. I'm a bit scared to do this but I have decided to post a photo for the first time. I will no longer be faceless. So be nice. I am not out and have been working on losing weight so I put up a pic of me in December 2014 and some from now with make up and some fake hair. I have lost 25lbs since. I know I don't pass, but is there hope with the foundation you see. Either way here goes nothing.
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I have to be honest and say sorry, not passing. I'm truly happy that you're starting to come out though. That took a lot when I did. I started off about where you are in these pics. Kinda just.. unsure. Keep at it. You'll do great. You have a cute face and you'll only improve I'm sure. Congrats on the 25 lbs! Weight loss takes time and a lot of work. It's gunna pay off and you're gunna absolutely GLOW when you start reaching your goals! The fake hair is a bit extreme, your makeup is as well. There are epic-
>-bleeped-<-tons of videos on youtube about makeup. Start there. Watch everything hun. Soak up every ounce of info you possibly can THEN go start buying some products. Otherwise.. you'll waste even more money trying to figure out what works. For me.. I use revlon foundation and concealer, covergirl powder, ELF and mabelline eyeshadows, ELF liquid liner (OMG this stuff is awesome) and mabelline/NYC pencils. ELF mascara. ECO brushes. Everything I use I bought at walmart so I could stay on the cheap while I learn what works for my face/skin. This's just the main stuff I use everyday. Notice there's no lipstick ;) Most girls can get away without it. But if you really think you need it to pass. Try plumpers. They're fun when need that extra something. I spent probly around 200$ on makeup that I ended up throwing away though. Just trial and error. We as trans haven't spent our previous years figuring out what works for us. So now all of the sudden.. here we are. Needing a daily skin regimen and about a thousand makeup tutorials. lol.. it's a lot of work hun. Take your time. You're gunna be beautiful. And I'm gunna be jelous. :)
Quote from: Rotika on March 31, 2015, 07:20:55 AM
Ok darlin. I'm gunna step my critique up a notch for you since you seem like you want some input. Don't get upset plz. I mean all this in the best light I can possibly stand in.
The Walk.
Pro. From your hips up, you look SUPER femme while walking. You have the shoulders and posture of a goddess. You even move that booty like you've had it your whole life.
Con. Below that booty seems to be a lot of insecurity. When you're stepping, it looks like you don't fully extend your knees. It looks un-natural and is kind've a giveaway that you haven't spent enough time in heels. Now, you did mention before that you are tall for a lady in your area. They're so cute.. but maybe give up the heels? Your outfit would still look great with flats I think. Up to you. I don't know how much you actualy stand out. You would turn my head.. but not from your height hun ;)
Body Language.
Pro. You're screaming "educated classy lady" at the top of your lungs. Your posture and bodily mannerism (is that a good desciption??) are very loud. Some of us girls I think have issues with being "stiff". You do not.
Con1. Your hands. They're always confused about what the hell to do next. Especialy from about 0:06 in the movie. Your right hand has no idea what to do. If your camera isn't leaning up against your purse, get one. and put it on your shoulder and hold the front strap with one or even two hands like it's an umbrella over your shoulder.
Con2. Your hair. You playy with it. Alot. I'm not sure if that's a nervous twitch. But if you playy with it around men. Expect them to take it as you attracted to them. It's just one of those signs I learned to read in boymode that is probly correct about 80% of the time. Girls don't even realize they're doing it.
Smile. A+
Makeup. A+ Very natural look
Clothing. A+ Not my style. But I can tell you have a fashion sense well beyond my own. I like t shirts and jeans. I HIGHLY doubt I could pull off what you're wearing. You look very cute.
Hair. A+ I.AM.JELOUS.AND.I.HATE.YOU.SO.MUCH lol ;)
Voice. Maybe we can hear it next time? :D
Overall. YOU PASS VERY WELL!! 10/10
I hope this is the kind of feedback you were looking for hun. You're gorgeous and are likely the envy of many girls on here. (I know I'm jelous :P) You're doing great! *hugs*
Rotika,
Oh. Thanks for detailed evaluation. Actually I think you are over-evaluating me. I am not so much good at makeup and fashion.
Yes. I intentionally wore conservatively. The coat is over-sized. Just before entering a class in which I teach about 50 undergraduate students who all know I am a man and a dad. Those young students are surprisingly open-minded. Some students even give some fashion advice when they evaluate me after finishing the semester.
My hurdle is actually my low voice.
barbie~~
Quote from: barbie on March 31, 2015, 07:43:50 AM
Rotika,
Oh. Thanks for detailed evaluation. Actually I think you are over-evaluating me. I am not so much good at makeup and fashion.
Yes. I intentionally wore conservatively. The coat is over-sized. Just before entering a class in which I teach about 50 undergraduate students who all know I am a man and a dad. Those young students are surprisingly open-minded. Some students even give some fashion advice when they evaluate me after finishing the semester.
My hurdle is actually my low voice.
barbie~~
Sorry i got a little crazy. :( You post very often and everyone just gives you the usual "you're pretty and you pass" comments. I thought maybe you'd like something deeper. I suppose you could call it an evaluation.. but it's all just my personal opinion and I want to help ppl.
Quote from: stephee72 on March 29, 2015, 03:55:11 PM
Ok here goes nothing. I'm a bit scared to do this but I have decided to post a photo for the first time. I will no longer be faceless. So be nice. I am not out and have been working on losing weight so I put up a pic of me in December 2014 and some from now with make up and some fake hair. I have lost 25lbs since. I know I don't pass, but is there hope with the foundation you see. Either way here goes nothing.
Agree with the others. The shadow will clock you and use your smile more.
Quote from: Rotika on March 31, 2015, 07:48:52 AM
Sorry i got a little crazy. :( You post very often and everyone just gives you the usual "you're pretty and you pass" comments. I thought maybe you'd like something deeper. I suppose you could call it an evaluation.. but it's all just my personal opinion and I want to help ppl.
I thought your evaluation was spot on Rotika. Exactly what I was going to say, in fact, from the compliments through to the criticism. Very brave of you Barbie to submit a video into a thread of this nature. And how great to be able to gain insight from our sisters and brothers! I hope to do one soon should I find the courage...
Barbie, this is the first I have seen you walk Take smaller steps. A man tends to walk with his feet remaining parallel to the direction he is walking. Each foot goes precisely forward. A woman will tend to put one foot in front of the rear. Also, focus a bit on your posture. Another thing you can do is slightly twist your ankle on the trailing foot a bit when walking in heels. Watch women who wear heels. Notice how they do these things.
Cindi
Hello, been reading around a lot today and came across this forum. I've recently been giving a lot of thought this whole process again(such a huge decision). I haven't seen anyone just yet for gender therapy, but planning to soon. Read a lot around these forums and everyone seems so nice, I actually read a vast majority of posts in this topic. Hehe.
Anyways, I was hoping to get some feedback on my face, I haven't had any hormone therapy or anything at all yet, fresh out of the shower, no make up or anything. I need to lose a bit of weight though v_v
I'm just hoping to get an idea how feminine y'all think I might look after I began therapy. I don't think I look too masculine. ^_^
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Quote from: Nanashi on March 31, 2015, 07:09:51 PM
Hello, been reading around a lot today and came across this forum. I've recently been giving a lot of thought this whole process again(such a huge decision). I haven't seen anyone just yet for gender therapy, but planning to soon. Read a lot around these forums and everyone seems so nice, I actually read a vast majority of posts in this topic. Hehe.
Anyways, I was hoping to get some feedback on my face, I haven't had any hormone therapy or anything at all yet, fresh out of the shower, no make up or anything. I need to lose a bit of weight though v_v
I'm just hoping to get an idea how feminine y'all think I might look after I began therapy. I don't think I look too masculine. ^_^
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Well, you have a very feminine face. I'd like to suggest Piyo. Will help with your weight loss. Would like to see what you do with your makeup though.
Rotika,
Thanks for honesty, but I know I don't pass, just my first experiment with make up since I was 23. I have been in hiding since, always waiting to bloom. I just got brave and posted for the first time ever my face...SCARY I know... :icon_blah:....Thanks for the make up tips, I will try that. in time I will lose all the weight and get better at this. Just got to stay positive. Be true to me inside.
Ok, so here's some proof that you can't really determine passibility from a flattering selfie. The first picture is from yesterday in VERY light makeup; the second one is me today, no makeup. Here's for anyone who says I pass.
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If this is what I'm gonna look like forever, it's time to detransition, at least until FFS is on the table. I've thought it over, and I can barely go out in public anymore.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on April 01, 2015, 01:55:37 PM
Ok, so here's some proof that you can't really determine passibility from a flattering selfie. The first picture is from yesterday in VERY light makeup; the second one is me today, no makeup. Here's for anyone who says I pass.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0Dgi4Yf.jpg&hash=b8192164be139db6d06565490815158a4bd0b9c6)
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If this is what I'm gonna look like forever, it's time to detransition, at least until FFS is on the table. I've thought it over, and I can barely go out in public anymore.
The first one doesn't really lean either direction, but I have to agree with you on the second one. Hugs
Mariah
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It's time just to give in. I have a man's face and a man's body. I'm going to talk to my mom about ffs tonight. If she says no, I'm going to return to living and presenting as male. I feel like I'm lying to people when I introduce myself as otherwise.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on April 01, 2015, 02:07:15 PM
It's time just to give in. I have a man's face and a man's body. I'm going to talk to my mom about ffs tonight. If she says no, I'm going to return to living and presenting as male. I feel like I'm lying to people when I introduce myself as otherwise.
I still feel your being to hard on yourself. To help prove that point. I'm going to show you a photo of me without the makeup, wig, and not even having shaved the few hairs that remain on my face off in the morning yet to prove a point. Because everything we do be it the makeup, the wig in my case or anything else can does in many cases make the difference. Hugs
Mariah
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Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on April 01, 2015, 02:07:15 PM
It's time just to give in. I have a man's face and a man's body. I'm going to talk to my mom about ffs tonight. If she says no, I'm going to return to living and presenting as male. I feel like I'm lying to people when I introduce myself as otherwise.
I'm sorry that you are at this point, but if you do decide to de transition, it may benefit you to stay on HRT, so that if you decide to transition again in the future when you have the money for surgeries you want, you will have increased feminization from the estrogen. Anyway, whatever you decide to do, I wish you the best <3
Whatever makes you happy androgynous painter. I hope you can find your peace.
Quote from: Cindi Jones on March 31, 2015, 12:26:39 PM
Barbie, this is the first I have seen you walk Take smaller steps. A man tends to walk with his feet remaining parallel to the direction he is walking. Each foot goes precisely forward. A woman will tend to put one foot in front of the rear. Also, focus a bit on your posture. Another thing you can do is slightly twist your ankle on the trailing foot a bit when walking in heels. Watch women who wear heels. Notice how they do these things.
Cindi
Rotika and Cindi, thanks for nice comments on my walking posture.
Yesterday I took self videos in the coast of my home town. As the sea water is still cold, it was windy, foggy and cold in the coast.
I just walked as usual. A lot of women watched me, but I did not care.
I stopped at a coffee store. An aged man working there said hello to me. I was there last September, and this guy still remembers me. Embarrassing!
Anyway, an edited video clip featuring myself.
http://youtu.be/Wo0x6SbVh5I
Next time, I may take video while drinking and chatting with my friends, but.... the problem is the privacy of my friends... I am not quite sure.
Actually, I do not care whether I pass or not.
Cheers!
barbie~~
P.S. I modified the URL of the youtube video. My little daughter uses my youtube account, and complained about the video. I switched to my Google+ account.
barbie~~
No makeup, boy clothes... do I fail as male?
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_0KmnDQ58n4/VRx_zJrrc_I/AAAAAAAABfY/GCeMCJ9NhJY/w624-h832-no/20150309_1.JPG)
And then there's this one, it's not the best lighting or angle, and I picked it for that reason since it's pretty close to how people see me. How well do I pass here??
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ORGHQobYtb4/VRyGA929BuI/AAAAAAAABg4/G6IJXs4_A_0/w624-h832-no/20150315_9.JPG)
Better lighting and angle:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fBdwediE6sg/VRyF9Pp8hNI/AAAAAAAABgE/nFIPWibs0Pk/w624-h832-no/20150315_8.JPG)
Quote from: Alaia on April 01, 2015, 07:10:23 PM
No makeup, boy clothes... do I fail as male?
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_0KmnDQ58n4/VRx_zJrrc_I/AAAAAAAABfY/GCeMCJ9NhJY/w624-h832-no/20150309_1.JPG)
And then there's this one, it's not the best lighting or angle, and I picked it for that reason since it's pretty close to how people see me. How well do I pass here??
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ORGHQobYtb4/VRyGA929BuI/AAAAAAAABg4/G6IJXs4_A_0/w624-h832-no/20150315_9.JPG)
Better lighting and angle:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fBdwediE6sg/VRyF9Pp8hNI/AAAAAAAABgE/nFIPWibs0Pk/w624-h832-no/20150315_8.JPG)
How is that considered male clothes? ;D Maybe just in the first picture, but yeah you just look like a cis woman wearing an androgynous shirt.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on April 01, 2015, 01:55:37 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0Dgi4Yf.jpg&hash=b8192164be139db6d06565490815158a4bd0b9c6)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F12wXAMV.jpg&hash=a0af2859bd92a7940b25f88c912b9de5aaf8d4a4)
So what? A lot of women need make up to look pretties or pass, me too... I don't think you will live happy if you detransitioned, maybe you want to reconsider things... You look androgynous to me... I think that with longer hair, make up, etc... You can pass, and that's all you need now that you can't afford ffs... Also, I don't see a male body at all, you're really petite just like most cis women.
Me in my Misty Cosplay, do I pass you guys???
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgW0qZJlh.jpg&hash=3d32fff8ec6cdf6c95ba34890406e686b13ca1c2)
Ash Ketchum is going to have a field day.
Quote from: Mickie on April 01, 2015, 09:57:14 PM
Me in my Misty Cosplay, do I pass you guys???
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgW0qZJlh.jpg&hash=3d32fff8ec6cdf6c95ba34890406e686b13ca1c2)
Really, you mean you aren't cis? ::)
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on April 01, 2015, 02:07:15 PM
It's time just to give in. I have a man's face and a man's body. I'm going to talk to my mom about ffs tonight. If she says no, I'm going to return to living and presenting as male. I feel like I'm lying to people when I introduce myself as otherwise.
Ok, well it feels like you've made your mind up and you clearly aren't happy so I think you should go ahead and detransition at least temporarily to see how you feel then. You could leave your hair as it is and stay on the hormones but go back to presenting male. If nothing else it will help with long term decisions.
For what it's worth I looked nowhere near as good as you before my ffs, and I was full time for a year like that. You claim that you would have to spend tens of thousands, and perhaps that's true at the top American surgeons, but I got mine done for around £8k in Europe. And you wouldn't need much anyway.
Quote from: Squircle on April 02, 2015, 01:23:13 AM
For what it's worth I looked nowhere near as good as you before my ffs, and I was full time for a year like that. You claim that you would have to spend tens of thousands, and perhaps that's true at the top American surgeons, but I got mine done for around £8k in Europe. And you wouldn't need much anyway.
Just wondering who did you go to for FFS?
Dr Bart van der Ven in Antwerp.
Quote from: barbie on April 01, 2015, 07:04:03 PM
Rotika and Cindi, thanks for nice comments on my walking posture.
Yesterday I took self videos in the coast of my home town. As the sea water is still cold, it was windy, foggy and cold in the coast.
I just walked as usual. A lot of women watched me, but I did not care.
I stopped at a coffee store. An aged man working there said hello to me. I was there last September, and this guy still remembers me. Embarrassing!
Anyway, an edited video clip featuring myself.
https://youtu.be/thqOKSYd81o
Next time, I may take video while drinking and chatting with my friends, but.... the problem is the privacy of my friends... I am not quite sure.
Actually, I do not care whether I pass or not.
Cheers!
barbie~~
Hi Barbie
I liked your video and I think physically if I saw you somewhere I would never think you weren't anything but a woman and know you said you didn't care whether you passed or not but I think there are a couple things which you could change or do which could help you present better as a woman.
you skirt (which I loved btw) is a little short for you most of the girls I know use the fingertip method to see if the skirt is long enough (put the skirt on and lay your hand on your thigh with your fingers extended to the ground if the skirt is shorter than the tips of your fingers it's to short and someone will defiantly see your panties) when it's that short other girls will look at you and tend to think your promiscuous and guys will look at you and think your available.
When you sit in a skirt slide your hand along your butt to push under it under you (especially important in a short skirt) then if there isn't a table or something in front of you put your hands in your lap and unless you're doing something with them keep them there then when you stand smooth the skit out the back (having been under you) should be neat automatically.
Slow down when your drinking (set the drink down and look around for at least a couple seconds then slowly pick it up and take a sip savoring the flavor before setting it down again and starting over) it seemed like you were very thirsty (couldn't get enough of it) in the video.
Wear shorter heals, flats or tennis shoes when walking the along the coast or in rocky areas (the heals seem so out of place there as most women would be afraid that they would get there heals stuck in the mud or worse yet that they would twist their ankle something)
I thought your walk looked fine the bag defiantly helped you with your hands.
Also referring to the other video you posted earlier keep your hands out of your pockets and try to keep your hands at your sides or in front of you (when it's really cold it's ok to put them in your pockets but the rest of the time pretend the jacket doesn't have any)
Sorry if this seems harsh it really isn't meant to be I actually think you're doing great and hope that I get to the point you're at someday.
You're doing great
Emily
Quote from: Emily E on April 02, 2015, 05:32:00 AM
you skirt (which I loved btw) is a little short for you most of the girls I know use the fingertip method to see if the skirt is long enough (put the skirt on and lay your hand on your thigh with your fingers extended to the ground if the skirt is shorter than the tips of your fingers it's to short and someone will defiantly see your panties) when it's that short other girls will look at you and tend to think your promiscuous and guys will look at you and think your available.
Oh. Thanks Emily for detailed tips on fashion and other things.
Yes. My wife and kids and my close friends complain that my skirts are mostly too short. Yesterday at the coffee cafe, I also noticed that two aged women inside the window laugh at me (it was not smile, definitively). While I edited the video clips later, I noticed that I exposed my thighs just below the skirt. It was slovenly. With that short skirt, most girls here wear leggings. From the video, I could realize that the skirt was is too short.
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When you sit in a skirt slide your hand along your butt to push under it under you (especially important in a short skirt) then if there isn't a table or something in front of you put your hands in your lap and unless you're doing something with them keep them there then when you stand smooth the skit out the back (having been under you) should be neat automatically.
Yes. I should learn it until it becomes my habit.
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Slow down when your drinking (set the drink down and look around for at least a couple seconds then slowly pick it up and take a sip savoring the flavor before setting it down again and starting over) it seemed like you were very thirsty (couldn't get enough of it) in the video.
I think it is genetic one. My little daughter also gobbles food and drink.
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Wear shorter heals, flats or tennis shoes when walking the along the coast or in rocky areas (the heals seem so out of place there as most women would be afraid that they would get there heals stuck in the mud or worse yet that they would twist their ankle something)
Yes. That's true. I once got my new heels scratched while walking in a stony garden. The coast here is mostly paved and a few ladies do wear high heels. I intentionally wear high heels to show my walking posture. Usually I wear flat sandals.
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Sorry if this seems harsh it really isn't meant to be I actually think you're doing great and hope that I get to the point you're at someday.
No No No. In the other social network sites, my old friends always make fun of my appearance.
However, some of my friends and colleagues are so much supportive of me, not to mention my wife.
Thanks again for your constructive advice. It's great!
barbie~~
@Barbie, you look beautiful and confident as always. An obersvation: Korea must be a very safe country. In my country I would not feel safe wearing a short skirt and heel in a remote place like that on my own (not a trans thing). Strange men would approach me. :o
Quote from: Serena ♡ on April 01, 2015, 08:59:34 PM
How is that considered male clothes? ;D Maybe just in the first picture, but yeah you just look like a cis woman wearing an androgynous shirt.
Yeah, I just meant the first pic for trying to pass as male. And thanks, not sure I see myself as cis looking yet, but that could be because I'm used to my face and still remember what it looked like, so naturally I'll still see my old male characteristics. Anyway, getting an outside perspective really helps, so thanks for commenting :) :D
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on April 01, 2015, 01:55:37 PM
Ok, so here's some proof that you can't really determine passibility from a flattering selfie. The first picture is from yesterday in VERY light makeup; the second one is me today, no makeup. Here's for anyone who says I pass.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0Dgi4Yf.jpg&hash=b8192164be139db6d06565490815158a4bd0b9c6)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F12wXAMV.jpg&hash=a0af2859bd92a7940b25f88c912b9de5aaf8d4a4)
If this is what I'm gonna look like forever, it's time to detransition, at least until FFS is on the table. I've thought it over, and I can barely go out in public anymore.
Fix your eyebrows in the second one.
Quote from: Charlotte2 on April 02, 2015, 10:05:51 AM
@Barbie, you look beautiful and confident as always. An obersvation: Korea must be a very safe country. In my country I would not feel safe wearing a short skirt and heel in a remote place like that on my own (not a trans thing). Strange men would approach me. :o
Yes. Here it is very safe. Women on heels walk at midnight. It is difficult to find a remote place here, as the population density is so high like Hong Kong. More than 10 million people visit my home town every year. I see more Chinese tourists than Koreans here in my home town.
Even the following fashion can be OK, but can be TV entertainment news.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcwcontent.asiae.co.kr%2Famgimagelink%2F0%2F2013072711582782578A_1.jpg&hash=4a066de27f663bbec8f5269bd44375f4aee8f6c0)
barbie~~
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on April 01, 2015, 01:55:37 PM
Ok, so here's some proof that you can't really determine passibility from a flattering selfie. The first picture is from yesterday in VERY light makeup; the second one is me today, no makeup. Here's for anyone who says I pass.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0Dgi4Yf.jpg&hash=b8192164be139db6d06565490815158a4bd0b9c6)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F12wXAMV.jpg&hash=a0af2859bd92a7940b25f88c912b9de5aaf8d4a4)
If this is what I'm gonna look like forever, it's time to detransition, at least until FFS is on the table. I've thought it over, and I can barely go out in public anymore.
So just because you're worried about the lighting in your photos you're thinking about detransition? well. i must say. if you want to pass: the lighting is the least of your worries. Passing is about fitting into what society sees as popularly femme. throwing on a dress and getting some crazy purple hair isn't going to help. I've seen most of your pics on this forum. From what i can tell you need to learn to use makeup better. You have a much more femme face than half the girls on here that are already years into HRT and you're saying you can't go in public? That seems harsh. You may not pass. but with a bit of effort, you could.
Sorry. But you seemed like what you needed was a kick to the rear in a direction. Any direction ;)
If you want some serious feedback on what you can do do feminize, PM me. I'll be as helpful and brutally honest as you need. *Hugs*
^^ Re: the purple hair - I told her looking eccentric will do. just. that...
Anyway androgynouspainter, I wonder how you would look with relaxed hair? Remember hair is a powerful feature that can frame your face. The right doo that matches your features can be highly feminizing!
Quote from: Evelyn K on April 02, 2015, 09:25:05 PM
^^ Re: the purple hair - I told her looking eccentric will do. just. that...
Anyway androgynouspainter, I wonder how you would look with relaxed hair? Remember hair is a powerful feature that can frame your face. The right doo that matches your features can be highly feminizing!
Hahaha, I have had a relaxer before. It did not work out. It did not work out AT ALL. Keritin might look ok, but I can't really afford it :(
Incoming PM
Quote from: Evelyn K on April 02, 2015, 09:25:05 PM
^^ Re: the purple hair - I told her looking eccentric will do. just. that...
Anyway androgynouspainter, I wonder how you would look with relaxed hair? Remember hair is a powerful feature that can frame your face. The right doo that matches your features can be highly feminizing!
She doesn't need to relax her hair, there is plenty of women with beautiful curls. Women come in different shapes.
Quote from: Serena ♡ on April 03, 2015, 12:11:17 AM
She doesn't need to relax her hair, there is plenty of women with beautiful curls. Women come in different shapes.
Not really. There are sex characteristics hon, men look a certain way and women look a certain way...and that's how the world will see you if you don't look like a woman should. I'm sorry, but I'm not able to live as a trans woman if I look like a man.
I'd sooner die, actually.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on April 03, 2015, 12:20:43 AM
Not really. There are sex characteristics hon, men look a certain way and women look a certain way...and that's how the world will see you if you don't look like a woman should. I'm sorry, but I'm not able to live as a trans woman if I look like a man.
I personally just get the feeling from how you are on this forum that you aren't mentally ready for transition. It is extremely difficult and perhaps you need more time just living. You seem to have an expectation that you can go on hormones and wear a dress with little effort beyond that and look totally cis, and that anything less is failure, which is an impossible bar to set for yourself. As Rotika says, you're looks are much more feminine than many trans women's are. I've seen people who have ended up looking amazing from much more masculine starting points than you ever had. But they put in lots of work and effort, and went through the period where you know you don't pass but go out anyway.
People have given you a pretty clear indication of why you aren't passing; it's because you present genderqueer. I'm not one for encouraging gender binary roles but the truth is as trans women we often can't get away with androgynous hairstyles or bushy eyebrows. With long hair and properly shaped eyebrows you would look completely different.
As I said before, perhaps a temporary detransition wouldn't be such a bad idea. You could still work towards transition by continuing hormones and growing your hair out, but if you were presenting as male you would perhaps stop putting yourself under so much pressure and give yourself time to think objectively. We are all pretty hard on ourselves here, and we all have to live with certain aspects of our appearance we don't like, but for a lot of us we are in this situation because it's the only way we could go on living.
I realise this all sounds harsh and I'm sorry, I wish it didn't. But you've kind of stripped away all of the other options and theres not much left anyone can say. I really hope you can find a way to be happy.
Quote from: Squircle on April 03, 2015, 02:14:35 AM
I personally just get the feeling from how you are on this forum that you aren't mentally ready for transition. It is extremely difficult and perhaps you need more time just living. You seem to have an expectation that you can go on hormones and wear a dress with little effort beyond that and look totally cis, and that anything less is failure, which is an impossible bar to set for yourself. As Rotika says, you're looks are much more feminine than many trans women's are. I've seen people who have ended up looking amazing from much more masculine starting points than you ever had. But they put in lots of work and effort, and went through the period where you know you don't pass but go out anyway.
People have given you a pretty clear indication of why you aren't passing; it's because you present genderqueer. I'm not one for encouraging gender binary roles but the truth is as trans women we often can't get away with androgynous hairstyles or bushy eyebrows. With long hair and properly shaped eyebrows you would look completely different.
As I said before, perhaps a temporary detransition wouldn't be such a bad idea. You could still work towards transition by continuing hormones and growing your hair out, but if you were presenting as male you would perhaps stop putting yourself under so much pressure and give yourself time to think objectively. We are all pretty hard on ourselves here, and we all have to live with certain aspects of our appearance we don't like, but for a lot of us we are in this situation because it's the only way we could go on living.
I realise this all sounds harsh and I'm sorry, I wish it didn't. But you've kind of stripped away all of the other options and theres not much left anyone can say. I really hope you can find a way to be happy.
You're right. I'm not ready for this. I rushed into it very recklessly, actually, because I wanted to get onto hrt before T destroyed my voice and gave me facial hair. I know things need to change...perhaps I am too depressed to put in the effort. I'm tired of the pain of plucking my eyebrows every week, and I'm tired of risking arrest every time I run out of makeup and need to get more...I thought this would be easy and I'd be happy and I'd be able to do it without any support in my life, and I was wrong, and now I'm paying the price for that. I'm so sorry for burdoning the community like this. I'm just scared because my gender issues are literally killing me; I feel like I am going to die soon because of them, and my days are numbered. I never lived before my transition. I would have liked to have waited until I could have found more support...now though I'm at a school where everyone hates me, and...I don't know. You're right though. I'm a mess and I was not prepared for this.
You aren't burdening anyone, the point of this forum is for support and you have need for it right now.
I doubt that things are as bad as you feel they are, but you do need real world support. You clearly have low self esteem and sometimes it's easy to alienate yourself from others. My depression and self esteem became so bad that I wasn't fun to be around, and it drove people away. Once I started making a real effort to get out and meets people my social circle has rapidly increased, and that's all down to my attitude rather than who I actually am.
Don't alienate yourself from here either, keep talking. You need it and we are here for you.
EDIT: if you are at a very low ebb and a danger to yourself please CALL SOMEONE.
Also I have to ask, why are you risking arrest when you need makeup? Are you stealing it?
Quote from: Squircle on April 03, 2015, 02:52:31 AM
Also I have to ask, why are you risking arrest when you need makeup? Are you stealing it?
Of course; I have no money and as a full time student my parents won't allow me to get a job, so...
It's not admirable, but it's pretty much all I can do.
And yeah. That's how I am. I'm always in such intense pain I immediately bring down the mood! It's really become untennable though, people can't deal with it. I've lost a LOT of friends to this honestly. Right now, I don't know if I need a casual social circle. I'd love that, yeah, but what I really need is a support system, and I don't have one. Like, at all.
And therein lies the truth that transitioning young isn't always as awesome as is made out. It's easy to forget that some people don't have money for basics let alone surgeries or electrolysis. Please stop stealing now though; the last thing you need is an arrest. You have to avoid that possibility at all costs.
The thing is, support networks can arise from casual social circles. You need to let people in to your life. Outside of that, are there any volunteer led counselling services near you, or at your school? Or trans support groups? You need to talk to someone. I met one of my best friends at a trans support group, he's ftm, and we've kept each other afloat over the last year. And are there any of your old friends that you could reconnect with? I'm guessing that your family hasn't been hugely supportive, and if that's the case I'm really sorry.
Quote from: Squircle on April 03, 2015, 03:24:32 AM
And therein lies the truth that transitioning young isn't always as awesome as is made out. It's easy to forget that some people don't have money for basics let alone surgeries or electrolysis. Please stop stealing now though; the last thing you need is an arrest. You have to avoid that possibility at all costs.
The thing is, support networks can arise from casual social circles. You need to let people in to your life. Outside of that, are there any volunteer led counselling services near you, or at your school? Or trans support groups? You need to talk to someone. I met one of my best friends at a trans support group, he's ftm, and we've kept each other afloat over the last year. And are there any of your old friends that you could reconnect with? I'm guessing that your family hasn't been hugely supportive, and if that's the case I'm really sorry.
True! It does suck; things are weird because my family has money and they are totally ok with me putting hormones on my health insurence. If they waned to, they could pay for surgery. They might even do it. But...there's a difference between providing and being supportive. When I tall to my mom about how I feel, her immediate question is always "are you taking antidepressents for that? I have a doctor you can call". That sums up what's wrong with that pretty well, it drives me crazy. I need dental work done so I don't have much pocket cash, and it's cheaper just to acquire my cosmetics.
Yeah. I guess I might be that I'm so far gone I can't really interact with people though. Understand, all I really can talk about is how depressed I feel. Most days I can't put on a convincing happy face...I mean, It's almost 5am where I live and I've been up sobbing all night. I have no old friends; I've never had any old friends; I didn't have any friends growing up, at all. And unfortunately my depression is driving away even my best new ones. Services for trans people where I am are not great. We have an LGBT club on campus and I attend, but a large portion of the trans* people there havn't experienced a spread of dysphoria in their life, and almost all of them are trans masculine. Plus they all hate me. I really am doomed, aren't I? I don't know. I do worry that my dysphoria might be a terminal case though :(
Ok, first thing you need to do is talk to your parents. Make them listen and don't stop until they realise that you need support and probably professional help. They are the people who have the most power to help you, and they need to understand how much you are struggling.
A lot of schools have a counsellor nowadays, if there is one talk to them. It doesn't matter at this point if they aren't a gender therapist, they may still be able to help or be able to point you in the direction of people that can.
Also, why do you think the people at your lbgt group hate you? Do you know that or is it just that you've made no effort with them so they make no effort with you? And don't think that trans men can't help you, they are going through much the same thing and sometimes it's actually better to talk to someone who sees things from a slightly different angle.
And again, if you feel like hurting yourself call one of the emergency numbers on this site.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on April 03, 2015, 02:39:29 AM
I'm tired of the pain of plucking my eyebrows every week
I pluck my entire beard every 3 days just to keep from having a 5 o' clock shadow. lol.. We have extreme's that have to be satisfied in order to look more femme. I'm sure I'm not the only person that does something absolutely nutz like this..
Even CIS women have to pluck their eyebrows every week. Pain is beauty. Get used to it if you're going to transition and want to be a looker.
You really need to look on the bright side of things and also open your eyes to what is going on around you.
When I was young, my parents always yelled at me/beat me for not finishing my dinner. They would say "Someone somewhere would KILL to have those scraps that you're wasting and throwing away!" I knew it was true.. but didn't pay it much mind.
More than 10 years later I joined the army and went to the jolly lands of Iraq during the war/conflict/whateveryouwannalabelit. And I witnessed children out in the streets begging us for our MREs and bottles of water. Starving. And I watched full grown adults beat them half to death to get the rations I gave them. It's a sick world. But afterwards I actualy thought back on my parents' words. I now have a very large sense of guilt when I have to throw away any food. It literally makes me sick.
You probably don't have it nearly as bad as you think. Just think about it. ;)
Plucking is pain? Try electrolysis. You get the needle, the shock, AND the plucking at times when the juice isn't enough to totally obliterate the follicle.
Being a girl is a lot of work:
- On average I'd say I spend an exta 45 minutes every day in the bathroom, pluck, rinse, shave, cover, hide, shape, enhance, highlight and the story goes on and on and on.
- I now have to exercise 45-60 minutes every day to keep in shape.
- My diet changed drastically to keep in shape (think salads and high fiber things), no more candy, snacks or soda.
- When walking alone at night you have to be very aware of your situation.
Not only this but you will sometimes get ignored by your peers just cause you are a girl, you will get objectified, slapped on the bum by strangers, patronised and get treated like you are an idiot.
But at the end of the day you get to be a girl, I do the work every day because it allows me to present the way I feel.
Quote from: antonia on April 03, 2015, 07:51:03 AM
Being a girl is a lot of work:
- On average I'd say I spend an exta 45 minutes every day in the bathroom, pluck, rinse, shave, cover, hide, shape, enhance, highlight and the story goes on and on and on.
- I now have to exercise 45-60 minutes every day to keep in shape.
- My diet changed drastically to keep in shape (think salads and high fiber things), no more candy, snacks or soda.
- When walking alone at night you have to be very aware of your situation.
Not only this but you will sometimes get ignored by your peers just cause you are a girl, you will get objectified, slapped on the bum by strangers, patronised and get treated like you are an idiot.
But at the end of the day you get to be a girl, I do the work every day because it allows me to present the way I feel.
I have to agree with this so much Antonia.. omg.. I'm full time at home right now until I become passable.. and my family, since i went full time here, has started treating me completely different. Like I'm helpless. Or lazy. Or even just plain useless. Even though I'm still out doing everything I always have. We live out in the country and from livestock to logging.. I do it all AND pick up other ppl's slack around here. Cooking, cleaning, furnace maintenance.. hell.. I even keep the internet network working between the 4 families all living on this property (requires constant fixing due to lack of ISP reliability).. and yet I'm the lazy dumbass
>-bleeped-< most of the time.
I guess I'm lucky because of the way I did my transition, I came out at work, did a powerpoint presentation about it, then went full time and then went on hormones.
What that meant is that my co-workers really did not notice me changing because I did it so gradually and the new hires just fall in line with the others so I got to retain my professional status :)
It's so weird to see people's assumptions change, I'm a pretty handy girl, I can fix just about anything, built a 33ft steel sailboat with my own hands, fixed cars, made furniture, built a house and yet once I started wearing a dress all of a sudden "people" try to persuade that I should hand over the portable drill cause I probably can't drill a hole in a drywall and place an anchor.
It makes you wonder ...
on a side-note, you should not have any issues passing out in the world, just do it :)
Quote from: Rotika on April 03, 2015, 08:01:04 AM
I have to agree with this so much Antonia.. omg.. I'm full time at home right now until I become passable.. and my family, since i went full time here, has started treating me completely different. Like I'm helpless. Or lazy. Or even just plain useless. Even though I'm still out doing everything I always have. We live out in the country and from livestock to logging.. I do it all AND pick up other ppl's slack around here. Cooking, cleaning, furnace maintenance.. hell.. I even keep the internet network working between the 4 families all living on this property (requires constant fixing due to lack of ISP reliability).. and yet I'm the lazy dumbass >-bleeped-< most of the time.
Quote from: antonia on April 03, 2015, 08:41:52 AM
"people" try to persuade that I should hand over the portable drill
Happened to me just yesterday with a chainsaw. Just cutting up some small stuff so I could start a cooking fire. My uncle comes out an snatched it up before I could touch it. Said "i got it." Which would've been ok if not for his previous statement which was "it's a little chilly outside, you might want to put a jacket or a shirt on"... OMG I definitely had a damned shirt on.
Quote from: antonia on April 03, 2015, 08:41:52 AM
on a side-note, you should not have any issues passing out in the world, just do it :)
My mannerisms are totally "dude"... I've been in denial that I would ever transition my whole life and have become such expert at being in boy-mode that I have trouble being a girl at times. Like omg this thing between my legs itches so bad.. but I can't touch it! LOL.. And my voice, I just can't seem to find a private place to practice training it. Anyone that's around would just start poking fun. I need my own space. For instance, as I'm typing this, my wife is scrolling facebook right beside me and every 5 seconds "hey look at this!"..... Private time for me is non-existant. I love her. But sometimes I wanna scream lol
Keeping up with all the hair that keeps growing is murder. Just when I think I'm on top of the rogue eyebrow hairs the little beggars keep poking out again. Sigh...
Anyway, it must be 6 months since I last posted here, and I think I've found the courage to let Joan outside once in that time. I'm thinking it might be time to try again. Am I deluding myself that I no longer look obviously like a bloke in a frock?
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No, you look great. You clearly pass as female in the pics. The past pic ihn't exactly the best shot or angle of you, but it's good.
Mariah
Quote from: Joan on April 03, 2015, 10:37:57 AM
Keeping up with all the hair that keeps growing is murder. Just when I think I'm on top of the rogue eyebrow hairs the little beggars keep poking out again. Sigh...
Anyway, it must be 6 months since I last posted here, and I think I've found the courage to let Joan outside once in that time. I'm thinking it might be time to try again. Am I deluding myself that I no longer look obviously like a bloke in a frock?
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Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on April 03, 2015, 12:20:43 AM
Not really. There are sex characteristics hon, men look a certain way and women look a certain way...and that's how the world will see you if you don't look like a woman should. I'm sorry, but I'm not able to live as a trans woman if I look like a man.
Do I need to relax my hair, then, to not look like a man?
My hair is probably curlier than yours, and I know many beautiful girls with curls, corkscrews, and kinks in their hair. You might try different ways of caring for your hair. For instance, there's something called the Curly Girl method for making the most of your curls by not treating curls the way you would straight hair; while I don't use all of their methods, I definitely learnt a lot from that method about what works best for my hair type. Before it, I just had frizz; now, I can at least sometimes count on good hair days. Whether or not that specific method would work for you isn't the point so much as that you may just need to learn what works best for your own hair. If that means embracing your curls and treating them better, go for it. If that means straightening it, do that. Do what makes you happiest and gives you the best chance for mental equilibrium.
In the makeup photo you posted, you look a lot more femme--and passably so--than the photo without it. Note that your expression is different in each--you look happier in the made-up image, gloomier and more stereotypically masculine in the other. I get this--because I'm still pre-HRT and not done with my beard removal, I sometimes feel depressed when I take off my makeup and see what was underneath--but I'm also learning to try to love myself more, and as I do that, something in my expression, even without makeup, changes. And some ciswomen simply do look dramatically different without makeup; you may be like that, but I'm still confident you could pass better, without makeup, once you learn more about how to play around with your hair and how to smile more. And your voice sample, which I heard in the voice forum, is incredibly good--perfectly passable, actually. I wish I was half as good, voice-wise, as you. Voice is a big factor in how people will read you in social settings, and you're doing fine there.
I don't think you will be happier detransitioning from what I've read on here. And it breaks my heart that you have to steal the makeup you have and that you feel so alone. But you have people on here for support, for a start. Can you find some kind of other LGBT group to attend, maybe? Find a connection to more people through there? Ask the campus group if there are other groups?
But you also have to stop seemingly begging people on here to tell you negative things. It's easy to fall into such a cycle of masochism, of wanting others to confirm your worst self-impressions. Lying to bolster your confidence isn't the answer, either, but surely there is a truer and better place to be found in-between those two extremes, and I think most of us on here have tried to direct you to such a place. You have things going for you visually and aurally that some of us can only hope for. Take what you have, and use it to go from there.
Every time you are in the car, every time in the shower, use your voice, at first it will sound silly but slowly you get there.
When walking around, to heel toe, heel toe and towards the center, turn your wrists forward and embrace being girly, I krow it's so so so hard at first but ...
Honestly, a couple of months full time and you'll be laughing at yourself thinking this is hard :D
Quote from: Rotika on April 03, 2015, 10:31:49 AM
Happened to me just yesterday with a chainsaw. Just cutting up some small stuff so I could start a cooking fire. My uncle comes out an snatched it up before I could touch it. Said "i got it." Which would've been ok if not for his previous statement which was "it's a little chilly outside, you might want to put a jacket or a shirt on"... OMG I definitely had a damned shirt on.
My mannerisms are totally "dude"... I've been in denial that I would ever transition my whole life and have become such expert at being in boy-mode that I have trouble being a girl at times. Like omg this thing between my legs itches so bad.. but I can't touch it! LOL.. And my voice, I just can't seem to find a private place to practice training it. Anyone that's around would just start poking fun. I need my own space. For instance, as I'm typing this, my wife is scrolling facebook right beside me and every 5 seconds "hey look at this!"..... Private time for me is non-existant. I love her. But sometimes I wanna scream lol
Quote from: antonia on April 03, 2015, 07:39:52 PM
Every time you are in the car, every time in the shower, use your voice, at first it will sound silly but slowly you get there.
When walking around, to heel toe, heel toe and towards the center, turn your wrists forward and embrace being girly, I krow it's so so so hard at first but ...
Honestly, a couple of months full time and you'll be laughing at yourself thinking this is hard :D
I wish I had some local friends like you to push me around and get me doing the things I want to do. lol.. I mean.. something as simple as saying "hey turn your wrists forward" just made me sit here and think about it for about the last 20 mins wondering if I do already or not. Probly not. But it's the thought. Thanks hun ;)
I guess I'm super lucky when it comes to local friends, I've got a group of 10-15 local girls that are really tight, two of us even live like 10 houses from each other and had no idea before :)
If you ever find yourself in the vicinity of Toronto Canada you are always welcome but don't underestimate the number of trans girls out there, there are at least 10 times the number you think.
The wrist thing is just something I realized, it's impossible to walk like a boy and expose your wrists, kinda funny :D
Quote from: Rotika on April 03, 2015, 08:53:05 PM
I wish I had some local friends like you to push me around and get me doing the things I want to do. lol.. I mean.. something as simple as saying "hey turn your wrists forward" just made me sit here and think about it for about the last 20 mins wondering if I do already or not. Probly not. But it's the thought. Thanks hun ;)
Quote from: antonia on April 03, 2015, 07:51:03 AM
Being a girl is a lot of work:
- On average I'd say I spend an exta 45 minutes every day in the bathroom, pluck, rinse, shave, cover, hide, shape, enhance, highlight and the story goes on and on and on.
- I now have to exercise 45-60 minutes every day to keep in shape.
- My diet changed drastically to keep in shape (think salads and high fiber things), no more candy, snacks or soda.
- When walking alone at night you have to be very aware of your situation.
Not only this but you will sometimes get ignored by your peers just cause you are a girl, you will get objectified, slapped on the bum by strangers, patronised and get treated like you are an idiot.
But at the end of the day you get to be a girl, I do the work every day because it allows me to present the way I feel.
Yes. Maintaining a girl's life means being healthy both in your body and mind.
My friends comment that I may live beyond 100 years.
barbie~~
Ugh. See, this is more work than I have time for. I'm averaging five hours a night of sleep as is, I'm so busy with school (and the 3~ hours of work a day I lose to crying fits)/
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on April 04, 2015, 01:49:11 AM
Ugh. See, this is more work than I have time for. I'm averaging five hours a night of sleep as is, I'm so busy with school (and the 3~ hours of work a day I lose to crying fits)/
maybe the reality is whether transition is doing more harm than good. There is absolutely nothing wrong with not transitioning if the pain is greater.
Naw, I've realized that the alternative would kill me. When I talk about detransition I'm usually actually talking about death :)
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on April 03, 2015, 12:20:43 AM
Not really. There are sex characteristics hon, men look a certain way and women look a certain way...and that's how the world will see you if you don't look like a woman should. I'm sorry, but I'm not able to live as a trans woman if I look like a man.
I was talking about hair, there is women with beautiful curly hair, my mom is black but she has her natural hair curly like yours, and she passes as a woman. Curly Hair don't make you look like a man.
Oh, I know it doesn't! I'm working on growing it out now...I really hope it looks pretty long.
Telling someone that you're working much harder than them and that she shouldn't complain because apparently she's not doing enough is not really supportive. However it kinda seems like androgynouspainter wasnt to give up on this, I'm sad if you do, it's not really going to do much for you if you decide to detransition, and you're probably going to regret it, but she also doesn't want to try her best at passing... But yeah without money it's a really hard thing to do. I think if you try your best to pass you could really pass...
You know I got my first makeup things from a donation tumblr page for trans women, and they sent me unused elf make up for free... I don't have any money neither, but you can try, I know for a fact that there are scholarships and grants for trans women to get surgery you might want to look into that, I couldn't apply because I am not seeing a therapist, and they need a letter from them, plus they would probably not even give it to me because I'm just one month in and not seeing any doctors, so yeah. Good luck with that.
I made a video about my hair, do you think I pass with my natural hair (without the wig I have on)? Please don't mind my voice, I was a little bit sick. Also if you have any tips for growing hair faster besides biotin or vitamins, that would be helpful. I might want to try Mane 'n Tail... Did anyone ever use it? I know PrincessJoules said it's helpful and she has beautiful long hair.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsS4poa4DIo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsS4poa4DIo)
It looks pretty good; you shouldn't put it up though. With hair like ours the most important thing is moisture, moisture, moisture. How often do you condition?
Quote from: antonia on April 03, 2015, 08:41:52 AM
What that meant is that my co-workers really did not notice me changing because I did it so gradually and the new hires just fall in line with the others so I got to retain my professional status :)
I have been the same. Gradual change is always better, as it gives time for people to digest.
barbie~~
Quote from: Serena ♡ on April 04, 2015, 02:26:41 AM
I made a video about my hair, do you think I pass with my natural hair (without the wig I have on)? Please don't mind my voice, I was a little bit sick. Also if you have any tips for growing hair faster besides biotin or vitamins, that would be helpful. I might want to try Mane 'n Tail... Did anyone ever use it? I know PrincessJoules said it's helpful and she has beautiful long hair.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsS4poa4DIo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsS4poa4DIo)
Serena,
I think you complete pass, but your hair is not tidy. Please visit a hair salon today.
barbie~~
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on April 04, 2015, 02:32:15 AM
It looks pretty good; you shouldn't put it up though. With hair like ours the most important thing is moisture, moisture, moisture. How often do you condition?
I actually don't condition anymore because I don't have money to buy one lol I got moroccain oil tho, my hair is very puffy and dry they need a lot of moisture, they get irritated often and when I scratch my scalp then I lose hair and I'm always scared I'm getting the balding male problems but it's probably just irritation and stress.
Quote from: barbie on April 04, 2015, 02:41:00 AM
Serena,
I think you complete pass, but your hair is not tidy. Please visit a hair salon today.
barbie~~
I usually cut my hair myself, they are definitely in the awkward stage right now so they do whatever they want.
Just returning from hiking in a nearby forest park with my wife and little daughter.
It was about to rain and very windy. Some of my friends say that I should not wear a skirt while climbing.
The videos in the forest are very shaky, and I used a tripod to show my walking posture in my campus.
Also some outdoor photos taken today.
https://youtu.be/MSAXUKV1tmQ
I remember that some female graduate students in the U.S. once commented that I walk like a soldier.
My walking looks feminine? I am not quite sure.
barbie~~
Quote from: Serena ♡ on April 04, 2015, 02:44:20 AM
I usually cut my hair myself, they are definitely in the awkward stage right now so they do whatever they want.
Serena,
I do not spare money for hair. I always ask the best hair-care product available in the hair salon.
Ninety percent of feminine appearance is determined by your hair style.
Sometimes I pay more than US$ 200 for hair treatment, although hair salons here are far less expensive than those in the U.S.
barbie~~
Quote from: barbie on April 04, 2015, 02:57:12 AM
Just returning from hiking in a nearby forest park with my wife and little daughter.
It was about to rain and very windy. Some of my friends say that I should not wear a skirt while climbing.
The videos in the forest are very shaky, and I used a tripod to show my walking posture in my campus.
Also some outdoor photos taken today.
https://youtu.be/MSAXUKV1tmQ
I remember that some female graduate students in the U.S. once commented that I walk like a soldier.
My walking looks feminine? I am not quite sure.
barbie~~
I just see a lovely tall lady walking around! :D You are so elegant! I'm quite clumsy when I walk, it's not male.. just stumbly. hahah!
Quote from: barbie on April 04, 2015, 03:01:08 AM
Ninety percent of feminine appearance is determined by your hair style.
Excuse me, I believe the 90% is about the attitude.
Quote from: Serena ♡ on April 04, 2015, 02:02:08 AM
I was talking about hair, there is women with beautiful curly hair, my mom is black but she has her natural hair curly like yours, and she passes as a woman. Curly Hair don't make you look like a man.
Yes, I also thought androgynouspainter was suggesting curly hair is not feminine. I wrote to you a page ago, Painter--if you want hair advice for keeping your curly hair looking good, check out the Curly Girl method. You may find things there that help, since our kind of hair does not benefit from advice for straight hair. I assume you missed my post. Grow your hair out and see if you can get it to frame your face in a way that will alleviate some of your passability concerns.
Quote from: Serena ♡ on April 04, 2015, 02:26:41 AM
I made a video about my hair, do you think I pass with my natural hair (without the wig I have on)? Please don't mind my voice, I was a little bit sick. Also if you have any tips for growing hair faster besides biotin or vitamins, that would be helpful. I might want to try Mane 'n Tail... Did anyone ever use it? I know PrincessJoules said it's helpful and she has beautiful long hair.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsS4poa4DIo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsS4poa4DIo)
You definitely pass! You look like a beautiful girl--no trace of masculinity in your face at all. Your hair is messy, but it doesn't detract from your femininity, and I think it will look cute on you as it grows out. I'm jealous of how thick it is! Conditioner is a key part of keeping hair like that from becoming too dry, but since you said you can't afford it, you may want to try shampooing it less (if you shampoo it), since most commercial shampoos strip curly hair of the little moisture it has already. You can try occasionally clarifying it with a small amount of apple cider vinegar, which I used to do as a replacement for shampoo but then stopped because I didn't care for the smell. Keep oiling your hair--coconut oil and jojoba oil are great if you can find them. And if you do get a chance to get a conditioner, I've always had success with Suave Naturals. I try to avoid conditioners with silicones in them, as those leave build-up in the hair that can make it look dull and flat.
Good luck! You're in a great place already!
Quote from: Damara on April 04, 2015, 05:30:19 AM
I just see a lovely tall lady walking around! :D You are so elegant! I'm quite clumsy when I walk, it's not male.. just stumbly. hahah!
Damara, thanks for your nice comments.
YouTube says that the video clip can not be seen in some countries, because of copyright violation (background music).
Magically, YouTube provided me several options, and their software removed only the background music, not the voice of my little daughter.
Amazing!
barbie~~
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Without any makeup, this is how I currently go to uni as "boymode" I cant really form an opinion myself.
I know my chin and jawline are my biggest problems but ffs isn't anywhere in the near future For me financially.
Imagine kate...thanks for smile comment...and yes when i do go in public it will be without the shadow
Quote from: Samantha6string on April 04, 2015, 05:24:43 PM
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Without any makeup, this is how I currently go to uni as "boymode" I cant really form an opinion myself.
I know my chin and jawline are my biggest problems but ffs isn't anywhere in the near future For me financially.
To my eyes, you have lovely and feminine eyes and eyebrows. You may accentuate them.
You already look feminine. Do not worry.
barbie~~
that's ur boy mode :o. Do you ever get male failed.
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I have the same problem with the chin, you have big feminine wide eyes just like me, you should use make up to make to accentuate them as barbie said, so that you can show one of your best features out! Also you kind of remind me of a blond version of Florence Welch from Florence and the Machine and she's gorgeous! I think that you look pretty feminine for not wearing make up, I'm jealous I wish I looked that good without make up.
Quote from: amber roskamp on April 05, 2015, 12:16:22 AM
that's ur boy mode :o. Do you ever get male failed.
I do get some odd looks.
This is today, basic makeup, still practicing and stuff. Even with the angle the chin is a thing :/
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Quote from: Samantha6string on April 05, 2015, 04:05:15 AM
I do get some odd looks.
This is today, basic makeup, still practicing and stuff. Even with the angle the chin is a thing :/
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You look very pretty in this pic! I have seen cis women with chins like urs so don't dwell on it, beautiful.
Not bad at all. You look great and with your looks the chin really doesn't look like that big of an issue. As Amber pointed some CIS woman have the same chin so not worry. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: Samantha6string on April 05, 2015, 04:05:15 AM
I do get some odd looks.
This is today, basic makeup, still practicing and stuff. Even with the angle the chin is a thing :/
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Quote from: Samantha6string on April 05, 2015, 04:05:15 AM
I do get some odd looks.
This is today, basic makeup, still practicing and stuff. Even with the angle the chin is a thing :/
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I think you look pretty, this pic reminds me of Helen Hunt in her younger years :)
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Without any makeup, this is how I currently go to uni as "boymode" I cant really form an opinion myself.
I know my chin and jawline are my biggest problems but ffs isn't anywhere in the near future For me financially.
V. Girly! :)
I just recently hit four years on hrt. I guess I am happy and while I pass I just think I look like an ugly girl. I am trying to get my hair over 26 inches though and it will just not go past 24.
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Quote from: HoneyBunny on April 07, 2015, 10:43:06 PM
I just recently hit four years on hrt. I guess I am happy and while I pass I just think I look like an ugly girl. I am trying to get my hair over 26 inches though and it will just not go past 24.
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your definitely not an ugly girl
Very pretty actually. Your being way to hard on yourself. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: HoneyBunny on April 07, 2015, 10:43:06 PM
I just recently hit four years on hrt. I guess I am happy and while I pass I just think I look like an ugly girl. I am trying to get my hair over 26 inches though and it will just not go past 24.
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Quote from: HoneyBunny on April 07, 2015, 10:43:06 PM
I just recently hit four years on hrt. I guess I am happy and while I pass I just think I look like an ugly girl. I am trying to get my hair over 26 inches though and it will just not go past 24.
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I find u super attractive tbh. I also think that most other people that are attracted to women would agree.
So I am wearing a wig for the first time and still a huge amateur at makeup. I wonder if I lose some weight and get better at makeup if I can ever pass (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs29.postimg.org%2Fw47fv5bjb%2Ftmp_4309_FB_IMG_1428528758371896204798.jpg&hash=43ae424bb3eef6e40c5cfabbcad529a8f4a4f849)
The hair really obstructs the view in this photo. Did you make sure the wig you got is for your facial shape you have because I'm wondering if that is part of the issue with the photo. I truly wish I could be of more help Renata. I'm sorry. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: Renata on April 08, 2015, 04:41:52 PM
So I am wearing a wig for the first time and still a huge amateur at makeup. I wonder if I lose some weight and get better at makeup if I can ever pass (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs29.postimg.org%2Fw47fv5bjb%2Ftmp_4309_FB_IMG_1428528758371896204798.jpg&hash=43ae424bb3eef6e40c5cfabbcad529a8f4a4f849)
I'm at around 4 months HRT, do I have the potential to pass one day?
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My hair is the most unruly thing on the face of the planet >.>.
hmmm. How does one post pictures?
nvm found it. Currently pre everything although, i've had stints with hormone use in the past (each one roughly 2-3 months). Only wearing light foundation, light mascara, and penciled in my eyebrows (which need some seeerious work)
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Quote from: Amaryllis on April 10, 2015, 06:47:01 PM
I'm at around 4 months HRT, do I have the potential to pass one day?
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My hair is the most unruly thing on the face of the planet >.>.
Absolutely yes.
Quote from: TransSasha on April 11, 2015, 08:21:07 PM
nvm found it. Currently pre everything although, i've had stints with hormone use in the past (each one roughly 2-3 months). Only wearing light foundation, light mascara, and penciled in my eyebrows (which need some seeerious work)
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You look GREAT pre everything actually.
Quote from: iKate on April 11, 2015, 10:26:53 PM
You look GREAT pre everything actually.
Thanks Kate! Now if only I could see it in myself :P
You really are being to hard on yourself then because as Kate said you look great in the pics. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: TransSasha on April 11, 2015, 10:37:33 PM
Thanks Kate! Now if only I could see it in myself :P
Quote from: iKate on April 11, 2015, 09:38:26 PM
Absolutely yes.
Thank you, I have a bit of hope for the future :), too bad my hair has a mind of its own atm.
Do I pass yet after 4.5 months of HRT? Still cant bring myself to go out of the apartment like this, slowly getting there. I still feel like i look too much like a man to go out in public, I also have to start doing something with my voice too.
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I think you look very cute and you should be able to blend in fine. Will you be perfect? No one is. Even all the CIS lady's out there have things they think makes them look different.
I think you will find that going out in public as your true self is so exciting and liberating that you will look back and go why didn't I do this sooner. I went out as my true self before I even started HRT. It was one of the things that helped me convince myself that I could successfully transition.
Just be confident in yourself and you will do fine. Most people are caught up in their own lives and thoughts to even pay attention. Heck, I'm 6'2" tall and was wearing 3" heels as I was walking around Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills the other day and didn't see anybody look twice at me.
Just do it! Hugs to you girl.
Quote from: QuestioningEverything on April 12, 2015, 09:32:17 AM
Do I pass yet after 4.5 months of HRT? Still cant bring myself to go out of the apartment like this, slowly getting there. I still feel like i look too much like a man to go out in public, I also have to start doing something with my voice too.
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Quote from: Mariah2014 on April 12, 2015, 02:15:20 AM
You really are being to hard on yourself then because as Kate said you look great in the pics. Hugs
Mariah
Thanks Mariah!
Quote from: QuestioningEverything on April 12, 2015, 09:32:17 AM
Do I pass yet after 4.5 months of HRT? Still cant bring myself to go out of the apartment like this, slowly getting there. I still feel like i look too much like a man to go out in public, I also have to start doing something with my voice too.
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hun there is no level of passing that u have to achieve to go out in public. You define your womanhood don't let societes expectations being you down.
you are a beautiful woman and I actually wouldn't have expected that u were trans If I saw you in public. It is scary the first time though so I understand ur anxiety. Just go at ur pace it gets easier with time.
Quote from: TransSasha on April 11, 2015, 08:21:07 PM
nvm found it. Currently pre everything although, i've had stints with hormone use in the past (each one roughly 2-3 months). Only wearing light foundation, light mascara, and penciled in my eyebrows (which need some seeerious work)
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u are an absolutely beautiful person. You are more fem then me and I've been on hormones for like 4 months (almost).
Quote from: amber roskamp on April 12, 2015, 04:31:02 PM
u are an absolutely beautiful person. You are more fem then me and I've been on hormones for like 4 months (almost).
awww thanks Amber! Don't be so hard on yourself either! you're all woman to me. I love your hair too
Quote from: TransSasha on April 12, 2015, 04:35:12 PM
awww thanks Amber! Don't be so hard on yourself either! you're all woman to me. I love your hair too
I'm not being hard on myself. I'm coming along. I'm just saying u have a wonderful base and ur already pretty. Are u planning on starting get again anytime soon?
Quote from: QuestioningEverything on April 12, 2015, 09:32:17 AM
Do I pass yet after 4.5 months of HRT? Still cant bring myself to go out of the apartment like this, slowly getting there. I still feel like i look too much like a man to go out in public, I also have to start doing something with my voice too.
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You look FINE. And I mean that in all honesty.
The voice may get you clocked though. It does for me but not as much, however it is still a problem.
Quote from: amber roskamp on April 12, 2015, 06:57:29 PM
I'm not being hard on myself. I'm coming along. I'm just saying u have a wonderful base and ur already pretty. Are u planning on starting get again anytime soon?
ohh gotcha. And yeah. hopefully sometime within the next month or two
Quote from: TransSasha on April 11, 2015, 08:21:07 PM
nvm found it. Currently pre everything although, i've had stints with hormone use in the past (each one roughly 2-3 months). Only wearing light
I do not see any reason that you ever fail to pass. You look gorgeous.
barbie~~
Quote from: QuestioningEverything on April 12, 2015, 09:32:17 AM
Do I pass yet after 4.5 months of HRT? Still cant bring myself to go out of the apartment like this, slowly getting there. I still feel like i look too much like a man to go out in public, I also have to start doing something with my voice too.
Going out also requires some trial and errors. You will learn more how to present as a woman as you go out more frequently.
Practice and practice!
barbie~~
Quote from: barbie on April 12, 2015, 11:10:34 PM
I do not see any reason that you ever fail to pass. You look gorgeous.
barbie~~
Thanks for the compliment Barbie!
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I changed my avatar this is my latest pic. Not bad for a 34-year old that has an estrogen level of 43 and testerone in 144. And on 9 months of hormones! Making the cute duckface. :D
Who's happy? (Points the thumbs to me) THIS CHICK!!!
Just thought I would show you gals today's photo from my phone, it has a bit of soft filter to it, but its me for sure just a few hours ago. I know I need longer hair, but I think I can finally see my feminine glow starting to show. What say you all?
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Quote from: Monika the diva on April 16, 2015, 11:23:56 PM
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I changed my avatar this is my latest pic. Not bad for a 34-year old that has an estrogen level of 43 and testerone in 144. And on 9 months of hormones! Making the cute duckface. :D
Who's happy? (Points the thumbs to me) THIS CHICK!!!
:o :-* Do I need to put it in words? 8)
You also look fairly young for your age
Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on April 16, 2015, 11:34:25 PM
Just thought I would show you gals today's photo from my phone, it has a bit of soft filter to it, but its me for sure just a few hours ago. I know I need longer hair, but I think I can finally see my feminine glow starting to show. What say you all?
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Glow is an understatement. I say pass!
looks great
Quote from: TransSasha on April 16, 2015, 11:43:40 PM
Glow is an understatement. I say pass!
Well my body in no way passes yet...Considerin this male weight....But working on it. I'm glad you say I pass....makes me feel good.
Hi Jasriella!
I'll give you my opinion that may mirror some other comments about your question.
I looked at all your pics on photobucket and I would say that you have some good features on your face that will help you pass as female. First is that you do not have a lot of brow bossing in your profile. It appears to fit into the female range to me. You also have a chin and neck that help you to pass as female as your chin is not prominent (good thing) and you do not have any visible adam's apple. I learned some of these things from http://www.virtualffs.co.uk/ where i had my own analysis done.
#1 You could improve on makeup as you said. Goss Makeup artist on Youtube is a good makeup artist with good tips.
#2 I think the crowning glory of any woman is her hair. You need to invest in a good quality wig. I think human hair wigs are the best way to go. Some cannot afford this and there are some good monofilament wigs out there, but quality is the most important thing. The wig you are wearing is not sitting on your head correctly and that is a giveaway. It's a common misconception that women's hair starts lower on the forehead and this is not true. Try showing more of your forehead for a natural look.
#3 Electrolysis. This is a major investment of time and money. If you can't do that, you can still go out in public. Here is a tip: Do a close shave, then get a good foundation to match your skin tone. dab and blend the areas of your beard to cover and then blend into your face. Now, here is the most important step: take a pink tone or red tone lipstick and blend some pink and red into the foundation as you blend. Why? because the hair of the beard doesn't end at your skin. It goes much deeper. Under a foundation it will show through as grey or dark. Blending a red or pink tone into your foundation will make it appear less "blue" or gray. It works.
#4 SMILE. A confident girl passes easier. I know this to be true.
Here is a picture of me. I appreciate your confidence in posting your pictures. YOu are definitely on your way.
Lastly, pictures can produce shadows that sometimes give away your gender. I usually will use a soft filter and lots of light in my pictures, but here is one that is not the best lighting which i think casts shadows on my face:
http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s659/Kelli_Linnes/IMG_1677a_zpsomdqvdf3.jpg
you can't do anything about bad camera angles and lighting unless you want to photoshop and i don't like to alter my pictures! LOL
Quote from: Jasriella on November 16, 2014, 05:30:04 PM
Well I suppose I'll give it a whirl for the first post. Getting better at the makeup I think.
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Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on April 16, 2015, 11:34:25 PM
Just thought I would show you gals today's photo from my phone, it has a bit of soft filter to it, but its me for sure just a few hours ago. I know I need longer hair, but I think I can finally see my feminine glow starting to show. What say you all?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1250.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh527%2FStrickalator%2FSunshine%2F11149210_10200314550662650_409846161_n_zpsg3innrnl.jpg&hash=0c7e4675e9141c8ece92572864bcfc2da947a5a8)
Def pass from this angle.
Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on April 16, 2015, 11:34:25 PM
Just thought I would show you gals today's photo from my phone, it has a bit of soft filter to it, but its me for sure just a few hours ago. I know I need longer hair, but I think I can finally see my feminine glow starting to show. What say you all?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1250.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh527%2FStrickalator%2FSunshine%2F11149210_10200314550662650_409846161_n_zpsg3innrnl.jpg&hash=0c7e4675e9141c8ece92572864bcfc2da947a5a8)
You look very much like a cis-friend of mine. You have a definite glow about you. Looking good! [emoji106]
No makeup. Just washed my sheets and am waiting for them to dry so I can go to sleep. So with nothing better to do... selfie time :D
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CC8MYg1UUAIML7b.jpg:large)
Quote from: Alaia on April 19, 2015, 03:38:48 AM
No makeup. Just washed my sheets and am waiting for them to dry so I can go to sleep. So with nothing better to do... selfie time :D
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very natural and feminine, pass to me!!
Quote from: michelle82 on April 19, 2015, 06:03:06 AM
very natural and feminine, pass to me!!
looking very happy
I think 95% of passing is attitude and confidence. Transitioning in my early 60s with GRS in 2000 and having lost 20 pounds, here's how I turned out. As I like to think: Not too shabby.
Robyn the Elder
I pass real well down here.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/d2tnqLCOjKFj53E8B0VEDCimZ2BD1MIg821IvE75Kdg=s162-p-no)
2013 on a cruise.
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/gV-4pTRflNq-WybFEmdyW9eVjkSiBGOhCxZ5y2keCcE=w122-h162-p-no)
77th birthday
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/BTRy0HfkKYIupWRu3oiPvIl9QfXfr_AI8_8pl5KOSAi-=w413-h412-no)
yea, totally woman
Quote from: Robyn on April 19, 2015, 03:11:21 PM
I think 95% of passing is attitude and confidence. Transitioning in my early 60s with GRS in 2000 and having lost 20 pounds, here's how I turned out. As I like to think: Not too shabby.
Robyn the Elder
I pass real well down here.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/d2tnqLCOjKFj53E8B0VEDCimZ2BD1MIg821IvE75Kdg=s162-p-no)
2013 on a cruise.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6Yu1NGZ5X4ovZxbfnMOBBMPGXz1ThGgOUWyM9rbDwdc=w121-h162-p-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/gV-4pTRflNq-WybFEmdyW9eVjkSiBGOhCxZ5y2keCcE=w122-h162-p-no)
75th birthday
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You look so similar to a cis coworker of mine! She's awesome and you seem awesome! Yay scuba diving! Wish I could swim!
Today was the first time that I took a set of pictures and I thought that I might be able to pass from head to toe, but I know that it is a lot easier to pass in a photo than in 3 dimensions, and I am not sure that I seeing myself correctly at all.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDE1S5vUEAA1zcP.jpg)
Quote from: Robyn on April 19, 2015, 03:11:21 PM
I think 95% of passing is attitude and confidence. Transitioning in my early 60s with GRS in 2000 and having lost 20 pounds, here's how I turned out. As I like to think: Not too shabby.
Robyn the Elder
77th birthday
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/BTRy0HfkKYIupWRu3oiPvIl9QfXfr_AI8_8pl5KOSAi-=w413-h412-no)
77th? No way!!! Get yourself on over to the 'Fabulous Thread' young lady!!!
Hugs
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2F11121671_1649936598570802_147473891_n_zpsugx6u7zv.jpg&hash=a1a5d688a7f7607c37d21a8cf1c8cc5e2744a3b0) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/allisonmariect/media/11121671_1649936598570802_147473891_n_zpsugx6u7zv.jpg.html)
Almost 3 months HRT, light makeup today. :) And yes, I know I need to smile but meh whatever. :D :P
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2FIMG_20140324_124403_zps7ma5m0ev.jpg&hash=f6569c71ee84e7fc130d6910fbc73a3e79558f62) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/allisonmariect/media/IMG_20140324_124403_zps7ma5m0ev.jpg.html)
For reference, this is me a year ago.
Quote from: findingreason on April 20, 2015, 10:59:38 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2F11121671_1649936598570802_147473891_n_zpsugx6u7zv.jpg&hash=a1a5d688a7f7607c37d21a8cf1c8cc5e2744a3b0) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/allisonmariect/media/11121671_1649936598570802_147473891_n_zpsugx6u7zv.jpg.html)
Almost 3 months HRT, light makeup today. :) And yes, I know I need to smile but meh whatever. :D :P
You're really cute. Only three months in? Wow. You're going to be sooo adorable. Promise to show us one of you smiling sometime? *hugs* :)
Quote from: Sunderland on April 20, 2015, 11:48:31 PM
You're really cute. Only three months in? Wow. You're going to be sooo adorable. Promise to show us one of you smiling sometime? *hugs* :)
Thanks. :) *hugs back* I modified the original post to include an old pic. I'm really proud of my incredibly fast progress. I had NO clue how quickly HRT would work its magic on me. :D
Quote from: April Lee on April 20, 2015, 08:01:13 PM
Today was the first time that I took a set of pictures and I thought that I might be able to pass from head to toe, but I know that it is a lot easier to pass in a photo than in 3 dimensions, and I am not sure that I seeing myself correctly at all.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDE1S5vUEAA1zcP.jpg)
I think you have a great figure.
I think your wig might draw some attention,because wigs tend to look unnatural which might get you clocked.
I think your clothing style is a bit off for your age group, maybe try to tame it back a bit and be more conservative. this would draw less attention in my opinion.
Quote from: findingreason on April 20, 2015, 10:59:38 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2F11121671_1649936598570802_147473891_n_zpsugx6u7zv.jpg&hash=a1a5d688a7f7607c37d21a8cf1c8cc5e2744a3b0) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/allisonmariect/media/11121671_1649936598570802_147473891_n_zpsugx6u7zv.jpg.html)
Almost 3 months HRT, light makeup today. :) And yes, I know I need to smile but meh whatever. :D [emoji14]
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2FIMG_20140324_124403_zps7ma5m0ev.jpg&hash=f6569c71ee84e7fc130d6910fbc73a3e79558f62) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/allisonmariect/media/IMG_20140324_124403_zps7ma5m0ev.jpg.html)
For reference, this is me a year ago.
Very natural and feminine!
Some picture I took for my 2nd month mark for hormones:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F4j9kpz.jpg&hash=21079b04e94898f461a2d6808079dfe0f36ae629)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2wp88kp.jpg&hash=7ea9ca588c71592a844d1c57eb1d2c5079cd8d6c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F35m4ihf.jpg&hash=9dac41a43f049b10631cb9fac84d609d3a3b356d)
I do get misgendered at school, I feel like it's mostly due to the 5'o'clock shadow, I really want to start laser, and I also don't like to wear much make up to school, I usually don't wear anything if not much and I wear my natural hair too. No, I didn't come out neither, I don't know. When I go to college, I will probably go full time if I can pass more (I need to start buying a better foundation probably xD)
This is my second month on hrt update:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xPN94tsngs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xPN94tsngs)
Quote from: michelle82 on April 21, 2015, 06:57:36 PM
I think you have a great figure.
I think your wig might draw some attention,because wigs tend to look unnatural which might get you clocked.
I think your clothing style is a bit off for your age group, maybe try to tame it back a bit and be more conservative. this would draw less attention in my opinion.
Yes. I agree. I think April's figure is adorable, but her outfit would fit well with a kind of Halloween or other special day's costume.
barbie~~
I was at a restaurant with a friend and we decided to take a selfie together!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Fdamarahappy.jpg&hash=66ddc0b768b0fc2e05d5fcd37a88195c2bb00dd2) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/damarahappy.jpg.html)
I appreciate the feedback. I do have a very distinct style, which is certainly not for everybody. Even cis women wouldn't blend in doing what I do, but I actually don't believe in blending in, for it's own sake. I rather be seen than be invisible, which is how I felt for decades.
There are signature things I do with every outfit. There is always one of three black high waist belts with silver metal. There is always similar black and silver jewelry, but I rotate in and out various pieces. And often there is some western wear accessories. As a male, I was into Spaghetti Westerns. I have re-purposed some my old Western wear for my new life. What can't be seen in my pictures is that many of my accessories have either a skull or skeleton motif on them; it's a touch of goth I like to bring into my look.
It doesn't bother me in the least that my fashion choices might remind somebody of Halloween. Before I began transition, I had a very definite vision of who I intended to become. I always saw myself as an older chick who could still rock the house down, and that is exactly the person I have tried to become. I decided that if I was going destroy my entire life, I might as well become exactly the person I felt I was inside.
I work out of the house about 95% of the time. I dress very casually there, but almost all of my social life is in clubs, and I wear my own distinct version of club wear when I go to them. Dancing has become the most important thing in my personal life, and my outfits seem to fit perfectly well in the venues I frequent.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDE1S5vUEAA1zcP.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_oUtoXVEAAgzwi.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CC52HRYUkAAzZJN.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-WydqGCUAAxqp7.jpg)
Do you think I pass in this picture. I know my arms need some shrinking, I hoping HRT helps out. too many years working with my upper body
Quote from: stephaniec on April 22, 2015, 05:29:47 PM
Do you think I pass in this picture. I know my arms need some shrinking, I hoping HRT helps out. too many years working with my upper body
Yes you do! Need to smile though. :)
Quote from: stephaniec on April 22, 2015, 05:29:47 PM
Do you think I pass in this picture. I know my arms need some shrinking, I hoping HRT helps out. too many years working with my upper body
Stephanie, I found that the combination of a really low call diet, a lot of aerobic exercise, and HRT worked amazing at burning off muscle mass. Yes I believe you pass, but may I suggest that you smile a little bit more in your pictures.
Quote from: April Lee on April 22, 2015, 05:44:42 PM
Stephanie, I found that the combination of a really low call diet, a lot of aerobic exercise, and HRT worked amazing at burning off muscle mass. Yes I believe you pass, but may I suggest that you smile a little bit more in your pictures.
yea, the smile, I know I think it's because of too many years of bad depression, but I'm working on it
Quote from: April Lee on April 22, 2015, 05:25:40 PM
I appreciate the feedback. I do have a very distinct style, which is certainly not for everybody. Even cis women wouldn't blend in doing what I do, but I actually don't believe in blending in, for it's own sake. I rather be seen than be invisible, which is how I felt for decades.
There are signature things I do with every outfit. There is always one of three black high waist belts with silver metal. There is always similar black and silver jewelry, but I rotate in and out various pieces. And often there is some western wear accessories. As a male, I was into Spaghetti Westerns. I have re-purposed some my old Western wear for my new life. What can't be seen in my pictures is that many of my accessories have either a skull or skeleton motif on them; it's a touch of goth I like to bring into my look.
It doesn't bother me in the least that my fashion choices might remind somebody of Halloween. Before I began transition, I had a very definite vision of who I intended to become. I always saw myself as an older chick who could still rock the house down, and that is exactly the person I have tried to become. I decided that if I was going destroy my entire life, I might as well become exactly the person I felt I was inside.
I work out of the house about 95% of the time. I dress very casually there, but almost all of my social life is in clubs, and I wear my own distinct version of club wear when I go to them. Dancing has become the most important thing in my personal life, and my outfits seem to fit perfectly well in the venues I frequent.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDE1S5vUEAA1zcP.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_oUtoXVEAAgzwi.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CC52HRYUkAAzZJN.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-WydqGCUAAxqp7.jpg)
I think you have a great style. If this is your first "pass" at photos then I think you are well on your way. We all evolve our own style. Yours may change or stay the same. Who knows. Your attention to detail has served you well. There are women's magazines that do features on what to wear in your 20's 30's 40's 50's 60's and beyond. Who cares? So it's not just a transgender issue. People are always trying to tell you what you "should" wear. Besides, I did not have the benefit of trying those styles in my 20's so forgive me if I have a few mini skirts more than I should. If it makes you feel good, wear it. Personally, I like to blend in and I usually will choose to feature one or more sexy features on my body and pair it with something more conservative. For example, I might wear a low cleavage top...but pair it with jeans and boots instead of mini and heels. It's the way I have evolved.
Quote from: April Lee on April 22, 2015, 05:25:40 PM
It doesn't bother me in the least that my fashion choices might remind somebody of Halloween.
Yes. You have the right to enjoy your own unique fashion.
barbie~~
A couple from last month...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FiCC4npK.jpg&hash=95511660dd07ca00278766033d3788296cbbbf64)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FliYqyif.jpg&hash=15f70d2a0dcb8c5e005792b5a2e70ac585e6e0a0)
And a couple from last week...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsRaDgP4.jpg&hash=311cbddcade906bd80bab85316bdcd67f43be4d4)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQwi0Jni.jpg&hash=dc59d6ddd09ea0dd187616f552b54a364232e326)
very nice!
Quote from: Kira357 on April 23, 2015, 10:29:49 AM
A couple from last month...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FiCC4npK.jpg&hash=95511660dd07ca00278766033d3788296cbbbf64)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FliYqyif.jpg&hash=15f70d2a0dcb8c5e005792b5a2e70ac585e6e0a0)
And a couple from last week...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsRaDgP4.jpg&hash=311cbddcade906bd80bab85316bdcd67f43be4d4)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQwi0Jni.jpg&hash=dc59d6ddd09ea0dd187616f552b54a364232e326)
You are pretty and feminine, Kira :)
Quote from: April Lee on April 22, 2015, 05:25:40 PM
It doesn't bother me in the least that my fashion choices might remind somebody of Halloween. Before I began transition, I had a very definite vision of who I intended to become. I always saw myself as an older chick who could still rock the house down, and that is exactly the person I have tried to become. I decided that if I was going destroy my entire life, I might as well become exactly the person I felt I was inside.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDE1S5vUEAA1zcP.jpg)
omg April you really do have a unique style. I'd say definite pass!
Quote from: Sunderland on April 20, 2015, 11:48:31 PM
You're really cute. Only three months in? Wow. You're going to be sooo adorable. Promise to show us one of you smiling sometime? *hugs* :)
As promised, here is a few with some attempted smiles. :) Not big on showing teeth, but I was in a good mood today so I took these. :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2FPSX_20150424_001301_zpsigjfr2pz.jpg&hash=1950707201d5bfb8df60a5ef7755c6c1239f14c2) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/allisonmariect/media/PSX_20150424_001301_zpsigjfr2pz.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2F20150423_152426_zpssykd6dth.jpg&hash=828c71d35933db5e9b005d6623078ebe3016bed7) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/allisonmariect/media/20150423_152426_zpssykd6dth.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2F20150423_152959_zpsghx3scqb.jpg&hash=7a83f45f6ee7c0114e9d60616073afba00fc3153) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/allisonmariect/media/20150423_152959_zpsghx3scqb.jpg.html)
Quote from: findingreason on April 24, 2015, 01:44:38 AM
As promised, here is a few with some attempted smiles. :) Not big on showing teeth, but I was in a good mood today so I took these. :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2FPSX_20150424_001301_zpsigjfr2pz.jpg&hash=1950707201d5bfb8df60a5ef7755c6c1239f14c2) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/allisonmariect/media/PSX_20150424_001301_zpsigjfr2pz.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2F20150423_152426_zpssykd6dth.jpg&hash=828c71d35933db5e9b005d6623078ebe3016bed7) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/allisonmariect/media/20150423_152426_zpssykd6dth.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2F20150423_152959_zpsghx3scqb.jpg&hash=7a83f45f6ee7c0114e9d60616073afba00fc3153) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/allisonmariect/media/20150423_152959_zpsghx3scqb.jpg.html)
Just as I thought - You're even cuter when you smile. <3
Quote from: findingreason on April 24, 2015, 01:44:38 AM
As promised, here is a few with some attempted smiles. :) Not big on showing teeth, but I was in a good mood today so I took these. :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2FPSX_20150424_001301_zpsigjfr2pz.jpg&hash=1950707201d5bfb8df60a5ef7755c6c1239f14c2) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/allisonmariect/media/PSX_20150424_001301_zpsigjfr2pz.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2F20150423_152426_zpssykd6dth.jpg&hash=828c71d35933db5e9b005d6623078ebe3016bed7) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/allisonmariect/media/20150423_152426_zpssykd6dth.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2F20150423_152959_zpsghx3scqb.jpg&hash=7a83f45f6ee7c0114e9d60616073afba00fc3153) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/allisonmariect/media/20150423_152959_zpsghx3scqb.jpg.html)
I'm a guy, so idk if I count in this, but yeah, you pass pretty much perfectly imo!
They great and you do pass :)
Quote from: findingreason on April 24, 2015, 01:44:38 AM
As promised, here is a few with some attempted smiles. :) Not big on showing teeth, but I was in a good mood today so I took these. :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2FPSX_20150424_001301_zpsigjfr2pz.jpg&hash=1950707201d5bfb8df60a5ef7755c6c1239f14c2) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/allisonmariect/media/PSX_20150424_001301_zpsigjfr2pz.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2F20150423_152426_zpssykd6dth.jpg&hash=828c71d35933db5e9b005d6623078ebe3016bed7) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/allisonmariect/media/20150423_152426_zpssykd6dth.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag145%2Fallisonmariect%2F20150423_152959_zpsghx3scqb.jpg&hash=7a83f45f6ee7c0114e9d60616073afba00fc3153) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/allisonmariect/media/20150423_152959_zpsghx3scqb.jpg.html)
Quote from: findingreason on April 24, 2015, 01:44:38 AM
As promised, here is a few with some attempted smiles. :) Not big on showing teeth, but I was in a good mood today so I took these. :D
[img width=303 height=400]
(http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/allisonmariect/media/PSX_20150424_001301_zpsigjfr2pz.jpg.html)
You pass with no problem. Nice.
Hugs,
Jen
you'll do good
So I was being silly at work with a friend, and we took some weird selfies.. haha! I am not crazy about how long my face is.. D; haha! Smushing my cheek against hers didn't help.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Fmeash.jpg&hash=bdf3601e91232ea3141af230e858dae34daff400) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/meash.jpg.html) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Fmeash2.jpg&hash=e44e10d5e03ee37108ad9a3c123b56fc5a6affb0) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/meash2.jpg.html)
Quote from: Damara on April 25, 2015, 02:19:21 AM
So I was being silly at work with a friend, and we took some weird selfies.. haha! I am not crazy about how long my face is.. D; haha! Smushing my cheek against hers didn't help.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Fmeash.jpg&hash=bdf3601e91232ea3141af230e858dae34daff400) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/meash.jpg.html) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Fmeash2.jpg&hash=e44e10d5e03ee37108ad9a3c123b56fc5a6affb0) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/meash2.jpg.html)
Your eyes!!!! Sooooooo pretty!
-Jade
:-*
Quote from: Damara on April 25, 2015, 02:19:21 AM
So I was being silly at work with a friend, and we took some weird selfies.. haha! I am not crazy about how long my face is.. D; haha! Smushing my cheek against hers didn't help.
Damara,
Yes. Your big eyes look lovely. Your hair is curly, but looks no problem.
You may need a better camera or smartphone or you can take photos under natural light to show you more clearly.
barbie~~
Do I have potential please be honest
Http://angela84.imgur.com/all/
Wow, you ladies all look great! :)
Here's some of me, although I'm a bit weird looking lol...I want FFS at some point. I do like my figure though :D
What do you girls think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps5cftgljv.jpg&hash=86ed1038fc6a300d6d281f20096c526b611918dd) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps5cftgljv.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsx6wmmnxb.jpg&hash=e7ccf3bb020e5e0f901d09d9f5af3ce121b87cb7) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsx6wmmnxb.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsh2b6fiaf.jpg&hash=fc6fef7b759e67ccf7b77fdbfc93ac91a7774ff2) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsh2b6fiaf.jpg.html)
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpspiftgnsv.jpg&hash=d860f3b1141a8e0736314fa779ea4b3b12dd971e) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpspiftgnsv.jpg.html)
Quote from: SarahSchilling on April 26, 2015, 02:12:24 AM
Wow, you ladies all look great! :)
Here's some of me, although I'm a bit weird looking lol...I want FFS at some point. I do like my figure though :D
What do you girls think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps5cftgljv.jpg&hash=86ed1038fc6a300d6d281f20096c526b611918dd) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps5cftgljv.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsx6wmmnxb.jpg&hash=e7ccf3bb020e5e0f901d09d9f5af3ce121b87cb7) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsx6wmmnxb.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsh2b6fiaf.jpg&hash=fc6fef7b759e67ccf7b77fdbfc93ac91a7774ff2) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsh2b6fiaf.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps4jtwd9ij.jpg&hash=17e69e422c1013ff20f932eee2982c7831d541c0) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps4jtwd9ij.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpspiftgnsv.jpg&hash=d860f3b1141a8e0736314fa779ea4b3b12dd971e) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpspiftgnsv.jpg.html)
:O What would you even have to feminize?? You look passable beyond a shadow of a doubt.. and beautiful!! uh.... trying not to let the green monster arise in myself.. haha! I like your figure too! And want to steal it! :P <3
Quote from: SarahSchilling on April 26, 2015, 02:12:24 AM
Wow, you ladies all look great! :)
Here's some of me, although I'm a bit weird looking lol...I want FFS at some point. I do like my figure though :D
What do you girls think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps5cftgljv.jpg&hash=86ed1038fc6a300d6d281f20096c526b611918dd) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps5cftgljv.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsx6wmmnxb.jpg&hash=e7ccf3bb020e5e0f901d09d9f5af3ce121b87cb7) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsx6wmmnxb.jpg.html)
To be honest, I'm not seeing the weird or the need for FFS - I think all you need is to keep that lovely smile and you're good to go :icon_chick:
Hugs
Quote from: SarahSchilling on April 26, 2015, 02:12:24 AM
Wow, you ladies all look great! :)
Here's some of me, although I'm a bit weird looking lol...I want FFS at some point. I do like my figure though :D
What do you girls think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps5cftgljv.jpg&hash=86ed1038fc6a300d6d281f20096c526b611918dd) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps5cftgljv.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsx6wmmnxb.jpg&hash=e7ccf3bb020e5e0f901d09d9f5af3ce121b87cb7) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsx6wmmnxb.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsh2b6fiaf.jpg&hash=fc6fef7b759e67ccf7b77fdbfc93ac91a7774ff2) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsh2b6fiaf.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps4jtwd9ij.jpg&hash=17e69e422c1013ff20f932eee2982c7831d541c0) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps4jtwd9ij.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpspiftgnsv.jpg&hash=d860f3b1141a8e0736314fa779ea4b3b12dd971e) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpspiftgnsv.jpg.html)
No weird look here, you look great and don't need FFS imo
Sarah, absolutely no surgery needed on that beautiful face of yours. You look great. :)
Aww, thanks girls! There are just a few flaws I'd like to have fixed at some point, and sometimes they are all I see.
Maybe GRS will help with that, time will tell.
Damara, you have no need to be jealous. You look very pretty!
Wow you look great. I'm not sure why but the last one seems a bit different from the rest. You do pass.
Mariah
Quote from: SarahSchilling on April 26, 2015, 02:12:24 AM
Wow, you ladies all look great! :)
Here's some of me, although I'm a bit weird looking lol...I want FFS at some point. I do like my figure though :D
What do you girls think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps5cftgljv.jpg&hash=86ed1038fc6a300d6d281f20096c526b611918dd) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps5cftgljv.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsx6wmmnxb.jpg&hash=e7ccf3bb020e5e0f901d09d9f5af3ce121b87cb7) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsx6wmmnxb.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsh2b6fiaf.jpg&hash=fc6fef7b759e67ccf7b77fdbfc93ac91a7774ff2) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsh2b6fiaf.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps4jtwd9ij.jpg&hash=17e69e422c1013ff20f932eee2982c7831d541c0) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps4jtwd9ij.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpspiftgnsv.jpg&hash=d860f3b1141a8e0736314fa779ea4b3b12dd971e) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpspiftgnsv.jpg.html)
Quote from: V M on April 26, 2015, 03:25:20 AM
To be honest, I'm not seeing the weird or the need for FFS - I think all you need is to keep that lovely smile and you're good to go :icon_chick:
Hugs
ditto
Quote from: Angela84 on April 26, 2015, 02:00:37 AM
Do I have potential please be honest
Http://angela84.imgur.com/all/
Yes! I see potential. :)
I hosted my first pamper party last night and we all had makeovers . . . Was so much fun!
Anyway, heres a photo of me!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1313.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft549%2FZoe_Louise_Taylor%2F11121733_10153121081105660_130586073_n_zpsrw1brqpo.jpg&hash=7e4af1077eabdee425a53ac06b2340cea1aa95be) (http://s1313.photobucket.com/user/Zoe_Louise_Taylor/media/11121733_10153121081105660_130586073_n_zpsrw1brqpo.jpg.html)
Was wondering whether you think I pass or not?!
Xx
I think you do, but I really wish that pic was bigger. Even when I click on the link it's small.
Quote from: Zoe Louise Taylor on April 26, 2015, 03:36:06 PM
I hosted my first pamper party last night and we all had makeovers . . . Was so much fun!
Anyway, heres a photo of me!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1313.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft549%2FZoe_Louise_Taylor%2F11121733_10153121081105660_130586073_n_zpsrw1brqpo.jpg&hash=7e4af1077eabdee425a53ac06b2340cea1aa95be)
Was wondering whether you think I pass or not?!
Xx
Thought id take a few pics, from some of my more unflattering angles to see what y'all think. thanks
(https://i.imgur.com/63GiXOl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7fVF3ym.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iRy8zxL.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WG4Gp71.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hLpDWDq.jpg)
Well I have not started HRT yet but I am pretty good with my make up. Hopefully will start HRT on the 27th. But none the less here you go.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F10dsgpg.jpg&hash=06d4d0faae07308e05e05898c3d7545c06d5e8a1)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fapeb0h.jpg&hash=7e2ead0745ac3ed840fbfca31d140943758f1b8c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fk99j4k.jpg&hash=8aa0b8925007dfa2902c2e3b3b5182b9b661a0b7)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fdvq23b.jpg&hash=57691562248b2b7c82ec66bff18167531372dc6f)
You definitely have a lot of potential, I can't wait to see what hormones do for you as they soften your face up even more. The makeup definitely adds a nice feminine touch that really helps soften your face. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: Gwendolyn_Szabo on April 30, 2015, 08:08:39 PM
Well I have not started HRT yet but I am pretty good with my make up. Hopefully will start HRT on the 27th. But none the less here you go.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F10dsgpg.jpg&hash=06d4d0faae07308e05e05898c3d7545c06d5e8a1)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fapeb0h.jpg&hash=7e2ead0745ac3ed840fbfca31d140943758f1b8c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fk99j4k.jpg&hash=8aa0b8925007dfa2902c2e3b3b5182b9b661a0b7)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fdvq23b.jpg&hash=57691562248b2b7c82ec66bff18167531372dc6f)
Alright nervous doing this, but yeah what's the verdict.
I have the body looking good but everything else is... eh. I'm not feeling good right now about myself.
Opinions?
This pic today was also my first time wearing shorts with exposed leg.
I was very nervous.
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/81990d87bdad214d78fc5798bfdd51e6/tumblr_nnnndnnS0X1u13v4so4_540.jpg)
And closeup of face:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi18.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb101%2Ftrinirich2006%2Ftrini_zpsx5nbp2oq.jpg&hash=6ad1f76a02aa395074b06a972c892da46d83c40a)
First off congrats for having the courage to post the pics. It's not easy to put ourselves out there. I especially like the second pic. The first pic, the hat just throws things off for me to be honest. The second pic is fairly feminine though. Doing more with your hair you could definitely benefit from though. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: Trini on May 01, 2015, 12:43:55 AM
Alright nervous doing this, but yeah what's the verdict.
I have the body looking good but everything else is... eh. I'm not feeling good right now about myself.
Opinions?
This pic today was also my first time wearing shorts with exposed leg.
I was very nervous.
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/81990d87bdad214d78fc5798bfdd51e6/tumblr_nnnndnnS0X1u13v4so4_540.jpg)
And closeup of face:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi18.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb101%2Ftrinirich2006%2Ftrini_zpsx5nbp2oq.jpg&hash=6ad1f76a02aa395074b06a972c892da46d83c40a)
My god you're gorgeous!
Quote from: SarahSchilling on April 26, 2015, 02:12:24 AM
Wow, you ladies all look great! :)
Here's some of me, although I'm a bit weird looking lol...I want FFS at some point. I do like my figure though :D
What do you girls think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps5cftgljv.jpg&hash=86ed1038fc6a300d6d281f20096c526b611918dd) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps5cftgljv.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsx6wmmnxb.jpg&hash=e7ccf3bb020e5e0f901d09d9f5af3ce121b87cb7) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsx6wmmnxb.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsh2b6fiaf.jpg&hash=fc6fef7b759e67ccf7b77fdbfc93ac91a7774ff2) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsh2b6fiaf.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps4jtwd9ij.jpg&hash=17e69e422c1013ff20f932eee2982c7831d541c0) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps4jtwd9ij.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1060.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft447%2Fsarahschilling1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpspiftgnsv.jpg&hash=d860f3b1141a8e0736314fa779ea4b3b12dd971e) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/sarahschilling1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpspiftgnsv.jpg.html)
Quote from: Gwendolyn_Szabo on April 30, 2015, 08:08:39 PM
Well I have not started HRT yet but I am pretty good with my make up. Hopefully will start HRT on the 27th. But none the less here you go.
There's really nothing angular or strong-looking about your face at all so I'd say your chances are incredible
Quote from: Danielle Emmalee on April 30, 2015, 03:51:05 PM
Thought id take a few pics, from some of my more unflattering angles to see what y'all think. thanks
You look feminine, but your hair style is not common here. Yes. You can have and express your own unique beauty style. My female friends praise my beauty especially when I wear rather conservative fashion items with ordinary hair style, but I also tend to wear bold fashion items.
For example, nearly all of my friends praised my wearing the following skirt.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7738/17132159569_d9772ef554_b.jpg)
barbie~~
I'm 21 and pre hormones but don't like my chances of passing unless I see some pretty enormous changes. i'm 5'11 and My biggest issues with myself are my Nose, stockiness, jaw, big biceps, chin, my hopeless natural hair, and a few others. I have a pretty naturally fatty face that could be good for hormones to work with but I don't work out at all and my biceps are naturally large (really moreso when they're squished against my body and you can see all the fat / muscle), not to mention I've got a really thick ribcage for a non-obese woman.
some examples:
fakeass wig and a little makeup (mostly just the eyes)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfdKcYvv.jpg&hash=bdc099a2aa45a94c33f689dcfe7b88d47f0ff509)
large body
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FD1Htb2R.jpg&hash=e0da7db5f576f4494dd3d51c27641bbe96c7ff2c)
horrible looking, unflattering picture from my birthday last month. Really showing my helpless hair, bad body shape, big jaw, nose, and unideal brow area. I'm making a goofy face which changes a lot but still, I'm unmistakably masculine
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYakfRy3.jpg&hash=b1fdf2f53144b9603d670a57d9a78538dd291949)
two days ago in the car, looking like >-bleeped-< from drinking and being depressed
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FO4ufiqL.jpg&hash=307299481e56f237112fbcc7ff21cca48c2cb1a0)
here's an album with more if you want any: http://imgur.com/a/yeLqs
I feel totally hopeless.
Quote from: Bleeps and Bloops on May 01, 2015, 03:00:44 PM
I'm 21 and pre hormones but don't like my chances of passing unless I see some pretty enormous changes. i'm 5'11 and My biggest issues with myself are my Nose, stockiness, jaw, big biceps, chin, my hopeless natural hair, and a few others. I have a pretty naturally fatty face that could be good for hormones to work with but I don't work out at all and my biceps are naturally large (really moreso when they're squished against my body and you can see all the fat / muscle), not to mention I've got a really thick ribcage for a non-obese woman.
some examples:
fakeass wig and a little makeup (mostly just the eyes)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfdKcYvv.jpg&hash=bdc099a2aa45a94c33f689dcfe7b88d47f0ff509)
large body
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FD1Htb2R.jpg&hash=e0da7db5f576f4494dd3d51c27641bbe96c7ff2c)
horrible looking, unflattering picture from my birthday last month. Really showing my helpless hair, bad body shape, big jaw, nose, and unideal brow area. I'm making a goofy face which changes a lot but still, I'm unmistakably masculine
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYakfRy3.jpg&hash=b1fdf2f53144b9603d670a57d9a78538dd291949)
two days ago in the car, looking like >-bleeped-< from drinking and being depressed
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FO4ufiqL.jpg&hash=307299481e56f237112fbcc7ff21cca48c2cb1a0)
here's an album with more if you want any: http://imgur.com/a/yeLqs
I feel totally hopeless.
i've gotta say, your kinda adorable. you'll pass just fine. :laugh:
Quote from: Bleeps and Bloops on May 01, 2015, 03:00:44 PM
My biggest issues with myself are my Nose, stockiness, jaw, big biceps, chin, my hopeless natural hair, and a few others.
Yes. Men tend to have a bigger nose than women. My nose is also very big, but never considered FFS or other plastic surgery. There are many women who also have a big nose. You may accentuate other feminine features.
barbie~~
my ears are huge and I have a small nose though o:
@ Bleeps and Bloops... In general you don't have a bad starting point to begin with. Many other start from much less ideal situation. I don't see anything that extremly problematic about your body, as you make it sound. Yes, most of us don't have the petite tiny ribcage, and majority have little broader shoulders than it would be ideal. Finding a way around those things you can't change, is the key. And focusing on things you can do to make yourself feel better.
About your chin and jaw and nose and nose and unideal brow area... have you heard about facial feminization surgery? While it's not magic, the results can be pretty magical......
and what the **** is wrong with your hair? It looks really dense. Long and dense hair is like the most amazing thing!! :)
Bleeps, I think you're being too hard on yourself. Yes, you'll probably never be petite, but you have a great starting point. You actually have very striking features and you have great hair. I'm jealous of that hair! [emoji5] [emoji5]
Quote from: mmmmm on May 01, 2015, 04:52:46 PM
@ Bleeps and Bloops... In general you don't have a bad starting point to begin with. Many other start from much less ideal situation. I don't see anything that extremly problematic about your body, as you make it sound. Yes, most of us don't have the petite tiny ribcage, and majority have little broader shoulders than it would be ideal. Finding a way around those things you can't change, is the key. And focusing on things you can do to make yourself feel better.
About your chin and jaw and nose and nose and unideal brow area... have you heard about facial feminization surgery? While it's not magic, the results can be pretty magical......
and what the **** is wrong with your hair? It looks really dense. Long and dense hair is like the most amazing thing!! :)
Quote from: ChiGirl on May 01, 2015, 05:06:12 PM
Bleeps, I think you're being too hard on yourself. Yes, you'll probably never be petite, but you have a great starting point. You actually have very striking features and you have great hair. I'm jealous of that hair! [emoji5] [emoji5]
Thanks, I guess, but did neither of you see my pic in guy-mode? My actual hair is some of the most masculine I've ever seen. Obviously I've heard of ffs though but it's way way way way way far down the road.
Quote from: Bleeps and Bloops on May 01, 2015, 05:14:38 PM
Thanks, I guess, but did neither of you see my pic in guy-mode? My actual hair is some of the most masculine I've ever seen. Obviously I've heard of ffs though but it's way way way way way far down the road.
In fact I was only really looking at your guy-mode picture. I don't care much about make-up, good angles, ideal lightning, wigs...
What does masculine hair look like.. because I really don't know? One thing that hormones do is a change in hair texture, it becomes softer and finer, and overall quality of hair improves...
Quote from: mmmmm on May 01, 2015, 05:41:51 PM
In fact I was only really looking at your guy-mode picture. I don't care much about make-up, good angles, ideal lightning, wigs...
What does masculine hair look like.. because I really don't know? One thing that hormones do is a change in hair texture, it becomes softer and finer, and overall quality of hair improves...
It's very coarse and thick and it grows straight up. Seriously, even if I try to get it to go down it goes straight up again. It's gets very thick on the sides and in the back and curls and looks ridiculous. Again, straightening it doesn't really change this and it's so dense the hairs on top are forced upwards. I don't see it having the capacity to fall like female hair does and it getting longer just turns it more and more into an unmanageable afro. Also I feel bad if that's the only perception you have of my male face because, like I said, that's not a very nice pic of me.
Quote from: Bleeps and Bloops on May 01, 2015, 06:04:53 PM
Also I feel bad if that's the only perception you have of my male face because, like I said, that's not a very nice pic of me.
I understand that you don't like that picture... I didn't like any of my guy-mode pictures either. I have learned a thing or two about facial features in the past few years, and like I said you don't have a bad starting point. Yes you have a masculine aspect in some of your features (some of that gets softened with time on hormones, and some can be altered surgically). But despite that you have overall really pretty face, believe me or not. With a couple years on hormones and smartly approached FFS you would look amazing. I hope this in anyway helps to answer "could I pass" question...
I was 21 and extremly dysphoric and really miserable and afraid I would never be really able to "pass", and I could find countless reasons for why I would never be really "passable", so much so that I was blind for all the positive things about my body and face that I should be really looking at... I'm 28 now and I look unclockable even without make-up on a bad hair day, despite being 6feet tall. If only I could knew this would be possible when I was 21...
Quote from: mmmmm on May 01, 2015, 07:28:20 PM
I understand that you don't like that picture... I didn't like any of my guy-mode pictures either. I have learned a thing or two about facial features in the past few years, and like I said you don't have a bad starting point. Yes you have a masculine aspect in some of your features (some of that gets softened with time on hormones, and some can be altered surgically). But despite that you have overall really pretty face, believe me or not. With a couple years on hormones and smartly approached FFS you would look amazing. I hope this in anyway helps to answer "could I pass" question...
I was 21 and extremly dysphoric and really miserable and afraid I would never be really able to "pass", and I could find countless reasons for why I would never be really "passable", so much so that I was blind for all the positive things about my body and face that I should be really looking at... I'm 28 now and I look unclockable even without make-up on a bad hair day, despite being 6feet tall. If only I could knew this would be possible when I was 21...
Well I'm in a very bad spot right now in terms of hope. You keep giving me ffs as a condition, do you not think I could pass at all without it? I don't have any kind of career or skill in the works so I don't know when that'll be possible even though I'm sure I'll eventually get it at least for my nose. I honestly don't think my chin or jaw is really THAT bad, and my brow area is crappy but can be minimized, (plus I've noticed almost every trans woman has a kind of weird brow bone / buldge if you really look and they pass fine)
As I said I honestly think you have a better starting point than many... and many become really passable without any surgical work... learning to master make-up in a way that works great for them, and finding a haircut that works the best for their hairtype and in relation to face, and learn to use many other things that add to their visual presentation. Some cis women also have some masculine features on their face and they pass just fine, so it's not just about facial features.
I didn't mean ffs as a condition... but I know what it can do, and what a change it can be...
Many trans women get that weird brow bone bulge removed, plus that allows to remodel the orbital rims, which is the thing that shifts facial expression from masculine to feminine.
If you have an option to see gender therapist, I really think you should discuss your situation and feelings with someone specialized and experienced in work with transsexual people.
Quote from: mmmmm on May 01, 2015, 08:23:40 PM
If you have an option to see gender therapist, I really think you should discuss your situation and feelings with someone specialized and experienced in work with transsexual people.
I have an appointment I set up a couple months back for informed consent because I've been battling with this so long I know I want to be on hrt. Lots of people have said I really need to talk to someone and I feel I do too. Idk what informed consent is like, but if I can get a letter to start HRT I'd like to find a therapist I could talk with anyway. I just didn't want to have to go through the process of having to put so many hours in and spend a lot of money to convince someone else of my transness. I'm very insecure about the future though. I know there's a lot of things I need to work through
Serena, I would love to tell you, but I don't see anything. Hugs
Mariah
i would eventually post a pic of me but right now, i'll just snoop in though i shouldnt o:
Quote from: Bleeps and Bloops on May 01, 2015, 01:06:46 PM
There's really nothing angular or strong-looking about your face at all so I'd say your chances are incredible
Thank you so much Bleeps. I have never really had angles to my face even when I was younger. ^_^
Quote from: Mariah2014 on April 30, 2015, 08:14:59 PM
You definitely have a lot of potential, I can't wait to see what hormones do for you as they soften your face up even more. The makeup definitely adds a nice feminine touch that really helps soften your face. Hugs
Mariah
I am so glad to hear. I honestly was really afraid that I would not have any potential at all. I cannot wait to start hormones, I think so much will change.
@ Bleeps and Bloops
I can see you transitioning well as you have a really good facial structure and a proportionate body... Starting on HRT should help your shoulders and chest(rib area) thin out as your breast start to develop and make your facial features will become softer and more feminine. If you have thick hair all the better just let it grow out and its own weight will make it lay over (thick hair is so much better then thin hair trust me). we all have little things that we would change about ourselves and at some point you may go get them changes if that's what you feel you want but I really feel your in a good starting point (I'm a little jealous lol)
Quote from: Serena ♡ on May 01, 2015, 09:41:47 PM
DO I PASS ?!?! 8) ;) :icon_cute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF8qpI0pgdU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF8qpI0pgdU)
I checked out your YouTube videos and I think you pass... even your voice sounds good :)
Quote from: Mariah2014 on May 01, 2015, 09:49:55 PM
Serena, I would love to tell you, but I don't see anything. Hugs
Mariah
I don't know why I tried editing it but still it doesnt work D': Well whatever
@ Bleeps and Bloops I honestly think you will do fine you actually look like a cis friend of mine with your eye makeup like that, and you have a better starting point than most which includes myself. You have a great smile with formed lips and your nose is not large and if you feel it is I advise you look at learning to contour it is like magic for your face. I dont think you need FFS I wouldn't even think of it until you have been on HRT for a while then make a fresh unbiased look at yourself. As for your arms and ribcage I used to work as a butcher so I was and still am bulky across my shoulders and arms but with time the muscle shrinks the ribs not so much, but you can do feminizing exercises to work on enhancing the other areas such as hips and butt etc. Your young and have heaps of time, with your hair have you tried growing it out? mine stands on end but as it gets heavy from length it sits and flows down but like everyone you still get bad hair days.
All the best
Kao
Quote from: kao on May 01, 2015, 10:35:01 PM
@ Bleeps and Bloops I honestly think you will do fine you actually look like a cis friend of mine with your eye makeup like that, and you have a better starting point than most which includes myself. You have a great smile with formed lips and your nose is not large and if you feel it is I advise you look at learning to contour it is like magic for your face. I dont think you need FFS I wouldn't even think of it until you have been on HRT for a while then make a fresh unbiased look at yourself. As for your arms and ribcage I used to work as a butcher so I was and still am bulky across my shoulders and arms but with time the muscle shrinks the ribs not so much, but you can do feminizing exercises to work on enhancing the other areas such as hips and butt etc. Your young and have heaps of time, with your hair have you tried growing it out? mine stands on end but as it gets heavy from length it sits and flows down but like everyone you still get bad hair days.
All the best
Kao
idk my hair is so thick and dense that it just kind of piles together and looks weirdly big whenever it's straightened. I haven't ever tried growing it out over a tremendous amount of time, however, so maybe I should just keep letting it grow over several months - a year+? I'm not sure if that would make it look acceptable or not. As I said, it is VERY coarse and thick.
Quote from: Emily E on May 01, 2015, 10:06:02 PM
@ Bleeps and Bloops
I can see you transitioning well as you have a really good facial structure and a proportionate body... Starting on HRT should help your shoulders and chest(rib area) thin out as your breast start to develop and make your facial features will become softer and more feminine. If you have thick hair all the better just let it grow out and its own weight will make it lay over (thick hair is so much better then thin hair trust me). we all have little things that we would change about ourselves and at some point you may go get them changes if that's what you feel you want but I really feel your in a good starting point (I'm a little jealous lol)
well thanks. I'm glad you guys see so much potential in me. I've been having such a hard to time looking at and judging myself. Recently I've basically lost hope in ever transitioning successfully and I all I ever do is remind myself of how ugly and masculine I am. It's really hurt my ability to see anything positive about myself
Quote from: Bleeps and Bloops on May 01, 2015, 06:04:53 PM
It's very coarse and thick and it grows straight up. Seriously, even if I try to get it to go down it goes straight up again. It's gets very thick on the sides and in the back and curls and looks ridiculous. Again, straightening it doesn't really change this and it's so dense the hairs on top are forced upwards. I don't see it having the capacity to fall like female hair does and it getting longer just turns it more and more into an unmanageable afro. Also I feel bad if that's the only perception you have of my male face because, like I said, that's not a very nice pic of me.
I always feel frustrated when I see girls complain about not having straight Caucasian hair. You know, thick, wavy or curly hair can be gorgeous. Is the process for growing it out difficult at first? It definitely can be. Wavy hair will normally 'fall' relatively early on into the growing process, whereas curly hair will initially grow upwards, then, after a while, will become heavy enough to 'fall' and continue growing downwards. I know this because I have corkscrew curls. At first, I had to deal with an afro. But you know what? I sucked it up, learnt how to deal with my hair properly, and now it grows downwards. It took about a year, but I'm so glad I didn't give up, and despite the difficulty with management curly hair can present, I'm not jealous of people with straight hair one bit on my good hair days. You know many girls would kill for thicker, curlier hair? We always seem to want what we don't have, without realising the potential in what we already possess.
Straightening wavy or curly hair damages it. If you want to straighten it, that's your choice, but if you do it too often you will likely regret it once your hair gets longer because you will have a lot of damaged hair to deal with. What you need to do is keep your ends from being dry, since curly hair tends to be a lot drier than straight hair, and you need to learn how often to shampoo and condition your hair; straight hair can be shampooed as often as each day, but this will usually be a frizz-making disaster for curls. Do what you want with your hair, but don't assume you must straighten it or that thick hair cannot be feminine; that is an absurd, if not offensive, statement I have heard far too many times and that I myself had to overcome in order to come to love my own hair.
Also, you look like you have a lot of potential, honestly, especially when you put on that wig. Give HRT and your hair time, and you will likely turn out just fine. You're in a much more privileged starting point than some people.
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on May 02, 2015, 01:39:00 PM
Also, you look like you have a lot of potential, honestly, especially when you put on that wig. Give HRT and your hair time, and you will likely turn out just fine. You're in a much more privileged starting point than some people.
Thank you, but I didn't mean to make any kind of statement about any hair type, just that I thought my hair was particularly difficult to deal with. It's not curly really on top it's just the sides and at the back where it curls up and is really determined to stay that way. Maybe it could change with some growth but idk. I'm definitely going to try based on what other people are saying in this thread.
Quote from: Bleeps and Bloops on May 02, 2015, 05:21:59 PM
Thank you, but I didn't mean to make any kind of statement about any hair type, just that I thought my hair was particularly difficult to deal with. It's not curly really on top it's just the sides and at the back where it curls up and is really determined to stay that way. Maybe it could change with some growth but idk. I'm definitely going to try based on what other people are saying in this thread.
I understand your fears. I apologise if I sounded angry--I've just seen too many people be told that their hair is 'bad,' when their natural hair, with some time and care, can be utterly beautiful. And it sounds like you have wavy hair. Wavy hair will eventually fall and grow downwards once the follicles grow long enough. If you grow out your hair for a few months, you should begin to notice this, even though the initial stages will involve an afro. Wavy/curly hair will always grow up for a little before falling downwards under the weight; straight hair just gets there a bit faster. The advantage of hair like ours, though, is that you usually gain some volume because of this kind of growth pattern.
My advice would be to grow out your hair for half a year to a year--hair takes time. If you want to try using your natural hair, avoid straightening it too much and just try taking care of it--keep the ends of your hair oiled, brush/comb it carefully (I finger-comb rather than using a comb, but many people with wavier hair swear by wide-tooth combs because those allow you to be a bit gentler with your hair, and hair like ours is often more prone to damage if you aren't careful). Soon, you will be able to tuck the hair in your face behind your ears, and not long after that, form a short partial ponytail. You can use many methods to keep your hair neat while it's getting longer--use a headband/headscarf, wear caps or hats that aren't too tight, gel it back, etc.
I'm only focusing on hair because you mentioned it, by the way--I just want to reiterate that I think you'll turn out just fine facially speaking as you transition. You don't look excessively masculine or anything like that, and so I think you have a good canvas for HRT to work with. Just give it time, and I think you'll turn out fine.
Hello Gorgeous People,
I'm posting a recent pic of mine with and without makeup, I hope I don't scare anyone :)
With makeup:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGSZQDny.jpg&hash=1a4a7a0848800cecaac7dbd98d6b84021e910b70)
No makeup:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fugh6qOp.jpg&hash=77531d4b69bdce3b04b873fcf944a09984dd4005)
Trust me you don't scare anyone. Beautiful as always April. You pass easily in both. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: carmenkate on May 03, 2015, 12:11:28 AM
Hello Gorgeous People,
I'm posting a recent pic of mine with and without makeup, I hope I don't scare anyone :)
With makeup:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGSZQDny.jpg&hash=1a4a7a0848800cecaac7dbd98d6b84021e910b70)
No makeup:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fugh6qOp.jpg&hash=77531d4b69bdce3b04b873fcf944a09984dd4005)
Thanks Miss Mariah, you're beautiful as ever! :-*
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I think you look better without makeup. Of course, I don't really like makeup to begin with. Except if it's goth makeup, then I line it. Not too much though.
its just my body but I was wondering if you all think my body looks feminine.
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You look gorgeous without makeup! I wish I could look that passable without any, to be honest.
It's strange, but your face looks slightly more masculine to me with makeup here. I've seen you post other photos with makeup where that was not the case, so I think it's just this particular image. I wonder if it's because your hair placement is different in the two images here. You look fine either way, but something is different about the image with makeup that brings out features that seem softer in the image without makeup.
Quote from: carmenkate on May 03, 2015, 12:11:28 AM
Hello Gorgeous People,
I'm posting a recent pic of mine with and without makeup, I hope I don't scare anyone :)
With makeup:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGSZQDny.jpg&hash=1a4a7a0848800cecaac7dbd98d6b84021e910b70)
No makeup:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fugh6qOp.jpg&hash=77531d4b69bdce3b04b873fcf944a09984dd4005)
Thanks Gabrielle :), I agree - it's probably the angle of my face. It seems to look more slender/longer with the first pic than the pic with no make up on.
You are so sweet and I wish I had the face and a hair like you do baby girl. It's been 8 months on HRT and blending in quite well - thanks again for the feedback pretty girl.
xo
April
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on May 03, 2015, 05:23:19 PM
You look gorgeous without makeup! I wish I could look that passable without any, to be honest.
It's strange, but your face looks slightly more masculine to me with makeup here. I've seen you post other photos with makeup where that was not the case, so I think it's just this particular image. I wonder if it's because your hair placement is different in the two images here. You look fine either way, but something is different about the image with makeup that brings out features that seem softer in the image without makeup.
Babe, here's a goofy pic I took that day as well :) I am also thinking the lighting also has something to do with it. please don't laugh lol xoxo
April
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FibDmRZ6.jpg&hash=63d7dd2b92e822f195755375605d0d5b8b1b5995)
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on May 03, 2015, 05:23:19 PM
You look gorgeous without makeup! I wish I could look that passable without any, to be honest.
It's strange, but your face looks slightly more masculine to me with makeup here. I've seen you post other photos with makeup where that was not the case, so I think it's just this particular image. I wonder if it's because your hair placement is different in the two images here. You look fine either way, but something is different about the image with makeup that brings out features that seem softer in the image without makeup.
Lighting does plays a role sometimes April. The first pic I took with my current style one friend of mine didn't like it and the lighting was the cause. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: carmenkate on May 03, 2015, 06:56:01 PM
Babe, here's a goofy pic I took that day as well :) I am also thinking the lighting also has something to do with it. please don't laugh xoxo
April
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FibDmRZ6.jpg&hash=63d7dd2b92e822f195755375605d0d5b8b1b5995)
Quote from: Mariah2014 on May 03, 2015, 07:00:31 PM
Lighting does plays a role sometimes April. The first pic I took with my current style one friend of mine didn't like it and the lighting was the cause. Hugs
Mariah
I agree Ms. Beautiful :) xoxo
Quote from: ReneeAnne on May 03, 2015, 10:48:48 AM
its just my body but I was wondering if you all think my body looks feminine.
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Well it doesn't look masculine but it's really impossible to tell from that photo, we can only see a bit of you, most of your upper body is obscured by the jacket and there's heavy lens distortion towards the top of the pic.
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Time to try again. I feel like im so close to being able to go out in public. Im happy with my style. I know its a bit edgy. But it's me. Working on my figure everyday at the gym. 2 weeks of tanning sofar too. Hoping the farmers tan evens out soon. Thoughts?
go for it, you'll do fine
Quote from: Rotika on May 04, 2015, 02:23:05 PM
Time to try again. I feel like im so close to being able to go out in public. Im happy with my style. I know its a bit edgy. But it's me. Working on my figure everyday at the gym. 2 weeks of tanning sofar too. Hoping the farmers tan evens out soon. Thoughts?
youre looking gorgeous as always rotika. I like your style a lot, it suits you. you look very natural. :)
Quote from: Rotika on May 04, 2015, 02:23:05 PM
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Time to try again. I feel like im so close to being able to go out in public. Im happy with my style. I know its a bit edgy. But it's me. Working on my figure everyday at the gym. 2 weeks of tanning sofar too. Hoping the farmers tan evens out soon. Thoughts?
Why not? You can enjoy going out at any time.
barbie~~
Ok ... so I feel like I am asking you the proverbial "do these jeans make my butt look big" question.
So I am going to ask for your impression of my profile pic, but here are the rules:
1. I am only looking for compliments, so feel free to lie if it results in making me feel good.
2. For those of you that wear glasses, take them off.
3. For those with perfect vision, squint to distort you vision as much as possible.
4. Prescription medications are encouraged if the bottle says, "Do not operate heavy machinery."
5. You only have .246 second to glance at my profile pic.
6. I am not responsible for damage to your monitor.
7. If someone already has left a nice compliment, no need for additional comments that will ruin the streak of "one."
Ready ... go ...
Quote from: TracyCakes on May 04, 2015, 07:08:18 PM
Ok ... so I feel like I am asking you the proverbial "do these jeans make my butt look big" question.
So I am going to ask for your impression of my profile pic, but here are the rules:
No lie, you're gorgeous
Quote from: TracyCakes on May 04, 2015, 07:08:18 PM
Ok ... so I feel like I am asking you the proverbial "do these jeans make my butt look big" question.
So I am going to ask for your impression of my profile pic, but here are the rules:
1. I am only looking for compliments, so feel free to lie if it results in making me feel good.
2. For those of you that wear glasses, take them off.
3. For those with perfect vision, squint to distort you vision as much as possible.
4. Prescription medications are encouraged if the bottle says, "Do not operate heavy machinery."
5. You only have .246 second to glance at my profile pic.
6. I am not responsible for damage to your monitor.
7. If someone already has left a nice compliment, no need for additional comments that will ruin the streak of "one."
Ready ... go ...
You rock, pretty lady. ^-^
Just wondering if y'all thought I had any potential...
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Thanks Boo and Danielle. Sometimes just feel yucky and need a pick me up.
lil update. I feel like Im getting closer and closer. I just need to find the confidence to finally come out and start my transition.
Im still kinda shakey on how I look, and I'd like some feedback to know how Im doing. The make-up could probably use some work, and I plan to fix the beard shadow and eyebrows as soon as I come out. but how does the rest of me look? I dont think I pass yet. what do you think? please be honest, thanks :)
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Quote from: sonson on May 05, 2015, 04:24:17 PM
lil update. I feel like Im getting closer and closer. I just need to find the confidence to finally come out and start my transition.
Im still kinda shakey on how I look, and I'd like some feedback to know how Im doing. The make-up could probably use some work, and I plan to fix the beard shadow and eyebrows as soon as I come out. but how does the rest of me look? I dont think I pass yet. what do you think? please be honest, thanks :)
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u look great for pre hrt
Quote from: Kellam on May 05, 2015, 09:24:04 AM
Just wondering if y'all thought I had any potential...
I'd say you certainly have potential. you're definitely at a good starting point body-wise. I think your face would benefit a lot from some longer hair to frame it, and some more feminine-styled glasses. of course, make-up always helps too. your skin looks soft and clear which is a nice bonus :)
Quote from: Yenneffer on May 05, 2015, 04:28:52 PM
u look great for pre hrt
thank you!
I dont like my big nose and chin, but I wonder if I just have a warped perception of myself, and that they're not as big an issue as I make them out to be.
Quote from: sonson on May 05, 2015, 04:31:36 PM
I'd say you certainly have potential. you're definitely at a good starting point body-wise. I think your face would benefit a lot from some longer hair to frame it, and some more feminine-styled glasses. of course, make-up always helps too. your skin looks soft and clear which is a nice bonus :)
Aww thank you! I used to wear my hair shaved as a man and it is taking forever to grow out. Add to that my male patern baldness and well, that's what the headband is about. The hrt has caused some regrow but that will take years. I think I should be able to manage a sneaky feminine combover. I won't do wigs. Nothing against folks who do, they're just not for me. I love hats anyway.
You look fantastic by the way. I have to say I'm jealous of your hair. You are leaps and bounds ahead of me with makeup. Lovely.
Quote from: sonson on May 05, 2015, 04:24:17 PM
lil update. I feel like Im getting closer and closer. I just need to find the confidence to finally come out and start my transition.
Im still kinda shakey on how I look, and I'd like some feedback to know how Im doing. The make-up could probably use some work, and I plan to fix the beard shadow and eyebrows as soon as I come out. but how does the rest of me look? I dont think I pass yet. what do you think? please be honest, thanks :)
Are you on HRT?
Yes. You have a great potential. To my eyes, you already look feminine, but with some delicately androgynous features.
You may try makeup and other women's fashion. Accentuate your eyes and lips.
barbie~~
Quote from: barbie on May 06, 2015, 12:39:13 PM
Are you on HRT?
Yes. You have a great potential. To my eyes, you already look feminine, but with some delicately androgynous features.
You may try makeup and other women's fashion. Accentuate your eyes and lips.
barbie~~
thank you!
no, Im not on hrt yet. hopefully that will help. and youre right, I know very little about makeup and fashion, so thats something I should try to work on.
I appreciate the advice!
Getting ready to fully transition full time at work :)
These are with only some mascara. Am I ready for my close up Mr. DeMille?
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good luck
I've probably rewritten this message over half a dozen times, so frak it, I'll just post the image... You lot know what to do. XD
Note: I'm basically pre-everything, and this is essentially the first picture I've ever taken of myself like this. The bewbz are indeed toilet paper... Brutal honesty is both wanted and appreciated. No need to be overeager with the praise, I'm already well aware of how beautiful, amazing and unbelievably incredible I am. (Not to mention incredibly humble... ::))
Please just honestly say what you think of it... I'm a big girl, I can take it... XD
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You definitely have a lot of potential. I can't wait to see what hormones due to you. Hormones will really draw out the feminine features you already have. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: Noteline on May 07, 2015, 10:47:13 PM
I've probably rewritten this message over half a dozen times, so frak it, I'll just post the image... You lot know what to do. XD
(Note: I'm basically pre-everything, and this is essentially the first picture I've ever taken of myself like this. The bewbz are indeed toilet paper... Brutal honesty wanted and appreciated.)
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Quote from: Mariah2014 on May 07, 2015, 10:52:20 PM
You definitely have a lot of potential. I can't wait to see what hormones due to you. Hormones will really draw out the feminine features you already have. Hugs
Mariah
But, as I am right now, how do I look..? ???
(Sorry, I know I'm behaving like an insecure 13 year old right now... XD)
You have some feminine features, but for me to give a more detailed answer I would really need to see a shot straight on. I couldn't completely say you pass with that photo. It doesn't mean you don't it's just that picture makes it difficult to make a good determination. Hugs
p.s. You have no need to apologize. You did nothing wrong. :)
Mariah
Quote from: Noteline on May 07, 2015, 10:54:05 PM
But, as I am right now, how do I look... ???
(Sorry, I know I'm behaving like an insecure 13 year old right now... XD)
I see a feminine version of Daniel Radcliff about halfway through the Harry Potter movies. As Mariah said it's very hard to give a detailed answer because of the angle of the picture. Additionally, the way your hair is and the lighting make it difficult to provide any detailed suggestions. You have some very nice features and HRT would make some very striking changes to you. Hugs honey!!
Quote from: Noteline on May 07, 2015, 10:47:13 PM
I've probably rewritten this message over half a dozen times, so frak it, I'll just post the image... You lot know what to do. XD
Note: I'm basically pre-everything, and this is essentially the first picture I've ever taken of myself like this. The bewbz are indeed toilet paper... Brutal honesty is both wanted and appreciated. No need to be overeager with the praise, I'm already well aware of how beautiful, amazing and unbelievably incredible I am. (Not to mention incredibly humble... ::))
Please just honestly say what you think of it... I'm a big girl, I can take it... XD
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi166.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu81%2FNotelyn%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FIMG317_zps1vejdizj.jpg&hash=2a9ad549e58f3b1bfb310144a45e5a019a04bb8c)
Here is my 7 month update...also a few pics after a day spa visit. Can you tell which one is the day spa after pic? Where am I at now on the female meter please. :-)
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So, I went out as myself properly for the first time last night (and loved it). The wife and I were going out in London to the theatre anyway and she persuaded me to go as Rachael. Wearing breast forms and a wig, and my makeup was done by MAC at Selfridge's. Photos are from when we got home, hours after going out. Third photo is without the wig. What do you think? Will I ever be passable without the accessories?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi723.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww237%2FNearlyRachael%2FIMG_1955_zpsbzwsghbm.jpg&hash=17e9d362425b914dccb2a22fba3f39e9bd9478ca)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi723.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww237%2FNearlyRachael%2FIMG_1952_zpsfwsjhkcq.jpg&hash=2fb378b32450723c066f8ea85e03fcf8df3af88b)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi723.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww237%2FNearlyRachael%2FIMG_1959_zpsawsyjeq0.jpg&hash=fd9199ca15f1a8799400b77691a9fc9ce5c896a9)
Quote from: painesy on May 09, 2015, 08:39:11 PM
So, I went out as myself properly for the first time last night (and loved it). The wife and I were going out in London to the theatre anyway and she persuaded me to go as Rachael. Wearing breast forms and a wig, and my makeup was done by MAC at Selfridge's. Photos are from when we got home, hours after going out. Third photo is without the wig. What do you think? Will I ever be passable without the accessories?
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I think you are totally cute already to be honest. If I saw u in public I think I would have a total crush.
Still Planning electrolysis...and getting on HRT will help. But I think my makeup skills are improving. what do you think are my prospects of being passable?
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You definitly pass. Hi Painesy, welcome to Susan's. I look forward to seeing you around the site. Good luck and hugs
Mariah
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Quote from: painesy on May 09, 2015, 08:39:11 PM
So, I went out as myself properly for the first time last night (and loved it). The wife and I were going out in London to the theatre anyway and she persuaded me to go as Rachael. Wearing breast forms and a wig, and my makeup was done by MAC at Selfridge's. Photos are from when we got home, hours after going out. Third photo is without the wig. What do you think? Will I ever be passable without the accessories?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi723.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww237%2FNearlyRachael%2FIMG_1955_zpsbzwsghbm.jpg&hash=17e9d362425b914dccb2a22fba3f39e9bd9478ca)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi723.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww237%2FNearlyRachael%2FIMG_1952_zpsfwsjhkcq.jpg&hash=2fb378b32450723c066f8ea85e03fcf8df3af88b)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi723.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww237%2FNearlyRachael%2FIMG_1959_zpsawsyjeq0.jpg&hash=fd9199ca15f1a8799400b77691a9fc9ce5c896a9)
Quote from: painesy on May 09, 2015, 08:39:11 PM
So, I went out as myself properly for the first time last night (and loved it). The wife and I were going out in London to the theatre anyway and she persuaded me to go as Rachael. Wearing breast forms and a wig, and my makeup was done by MAC at Selfridge's. Photos are from when we got home, hours after going out. Third photo is without the wig. What do you think? Will I ever be passable without the accessories?
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I look at pictures but don't comment - except this time. You look cute - I mean, I'm into girls and there's a something in the middle picture that caught my eye. A sad smile that's sexy lol
You should just let your hair grow out, as the third picture looks different to me.
well I think my post got lost.
Here's another try. I am just beginning the process and still need electrolysis. But it think my makeup skills are improving. what do you think?
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In the pictures, I definitely see a female :)
Quote from: charlotte15 on May 09, 2015, 09:18:01 PM
I look at pictures but don't comment - except this time. You look cute - I mean, I'm into girls and there's a something in the middle picture that caught my eye. A sad smile that's sexy lol
You should just let your hair grow out, as the third picture looks different to me.
Painsey...you look very natural to me...Your poise and style are very feminine and I would have seen you as woman...even with the wig
Quote from: Marly on May 09, 2015, 09:34:03 PM
In the pictures, I definitely see a female :)
Quote from: Marly on May 09, 2015, 09:20:44 PM
well I think my post got lost.
Here's another try. I am just beginning the process and still need electrolysis. But it think my makeup skills are improving. what do you think?
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Marley....you look pleasant. I'm just starting electrolysis too. Along with laser. Your in the natural zone. You seem in between. But your still pleasant for sure.
Quote from: painesy on May 09, 2015, 08:39:11 PM
So, I went out as myself properly for the first time last night (and loved it). The wife and I were going out in London to the theatre anyway and she persuaded me to go as Rachael. Wearing breast forms and a wig, and my makeup was done by MAC at Selfridge's. Photos are from when we got home, hours after going out. Third photo is without the wig. What do you think? Will I ever be passable without the accessories?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi723.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww237%2FNearlyRachael%2FIMG_1955_zpsbzwsghbm.jpg&hash=17e9d362425b914dccb2a22fba3f39e9bd9478ca)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi723.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww237%2FNearlyRachael%2FIMG_1952_zpsfwsjhkcq.jpg&hash=2fb378b32450723c066f8ea85e03fcf8df3af88b)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi723.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww237%2FNearlyRachael%2FIMG_1959_zpsawsyjeq0.jpg&hash=fd9199ca15f1a8799400b77691a9fc9ce5c896a9)
your doing good as is
Heyo, it's been a long time since I posted here... So, seeing as I've just passed the 9-month mark...
Here's three of my usual looks so you can judge :)
Messy/no-makeup/at-home/study/bed-mode
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs18.postimg.org%2Fehclnrdjp%2FIMG_20150511_021005.jpg&hash=7c08a95e0e58ed8a97ef25f96147ee41fe43dfbe) (http://postimg.org/image/ehclnrdjp/)
(No I hadn't slept..)
Responsible/job-hunting/more-serious-events...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fbw2r6y92n%2FUntitled.jpg&hash=4cb41873dfff1ed5ca0e9c61ea10379485571af8) (http://postimg.org/image/bw2r6y92n/)
And lastly.... Casual, usual every-day-mode....
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs17.postimg.org%2Fqyr2g9dsb%2Fw_Wj_PU1_E.jpg&hash=ae743ab4f0aac8546acb84e817d16429becfb8e7) (http://postimg.org/image/qyr2g9dsb/)
Bonus... Pigtails...Coz...Why not?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs15.postimg.org%2Fr5th47fvb%2F20150205_221905.jpg&hash=951f907f85b967426bbfe18f9399a31e26929db8) (http://postimg.org/image/r5th47fvb/)
I know I don't pass as I still constantly get misgendered... But eh, an out-of-10 kinda would help hehe....
At least a 7 or 8 based on the bottom picture. You look definitely passable. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: bluebirdx88 on May 10, 2015, 08:03:00 PM
Heyo, it's been a long time since I posted here... So, seeing as I've just passed the 9-month mark...
Here's three of my usual looks so you can judge :)
Messy/no-makeup/at-home/study/bed-mode
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs18.postimg.org%2Fehclnrdjp%2FIMG_20150511_021005.jpg&hash=7c08a95e0e58ed8a97ef25f96147ee41fe43dfbe) (http://postimg.org/image/ehclnrdjp/)
(No I hadn't slept..)
Responsible/job-hunting/more-serious-events...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fbw2r6y92n%2FUntitled.jpg&hash=4cb41873dfff1ed5ca0e9c61ea10379485571af8) (http://postimg.org/image/bw2r6y92n/)
And lastly.... Casual, usual every-day-mode....
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs17.postimg.org%2Fqyr2g9dsb%2Fw_Wj_PU1_E.jpg&hash=ae743ab4f0aac8546acb84e817d16429becfb8e7) (http://postimg.org/image/qyr2g9dsb/)
Bonus... Pigtails...Coz...Why not?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs15.postimg.org%2Fr5th47fvb%2F20150205_221905.jpg&hash=951f907f85b967426bbfe18f9399a31e26929db8) (http://postimg.org/image/r5th47fvb/)
I know I don't pass as I still constantly get misgendered... But eh, an out-of-10 kinda would help hehe....
Quote from: Mariah2014 on May 10, 2015, 08:17:19 PM
At least a 7 or 8 based on the bottom picture. You look definitely passable. Hugs
Mariah
Definitely I agree with Mariah.
barbie~~
Quote from: bluebirdx88 on May 10, 2015, 08:03:00 PM
Heyo, it's been a long time since I posted here... So, seeing as I've just passed the 9-month mark...
Here's three of my usual looks so you can judge :)
Messy/no-makeup/at-home/study/bed-mode
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs18.postimg.org%2Fehclnrdjp%2FIMG_20150511_021005.jpg&hash=7c08a95e0e58ed8a97ef25f96147ee41fe43dfbe) (http://postimg.org/image/ehclnrdjp/)
(No I hadn't slept..)
Responsible/job-hunting/more-serious-events...
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And lastly.... Casual, usual every-day-mode....
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Bonus... Pigtails...Coz...Why not?
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I know I don't pass as I still constantly get misgendered... But eh, an out-of-10 kinda would help hehe....
I really think u look good in pic 2, you should never be getting misgendered like that
Quote from: Mariah2014 on May 10, 2015, 08:17:19 PM
At least a 7 or 8 based on the bottom picture. You look definitely passable. Hugs
Mariah
Thank you so much :) *hugs back*
Quote from: barbie on May 10, 2015, 08:19:37 PM
Definitely I agree with Mariah.
barbie~~
Thank you!
Quote from: amber roskamp on May 10, 2015, 08:23:35 PM
I really think u look good in pic 2, you should never be getting misgendered like that
Thank you :) Yeah, constantly.. I still always get stares and laughs every once in a while... I find it annoying when they call me 'he' at a lingerie-store or the chemists when I go buy my E and AAs... When would a 'he' ever be in those two situations? Gah! To be frank.... It's only started happening lately and I'm starting to suspect something is wrong with my dosage... Hope to get hold of my psychologist to get hold of a social worker to get hold of an endo, as soon as possible.... (Pics are from newest to oldest... You can see that (or at least I think) that my face seems longer and more masculine now that before.. And it's worse every day.... I suspect this too due to the fact that the misgendering is kind of a recent thing, people never misgendered me up till about 1 or 2 months ago where it progressively became worse...)
Go ahead and gawk at me... I figure it's just returning the favor since I'm always checkin' you all out.
I have no illusions of 'passing' in my current state with my *boy hair* and large-ish features... and I want to punch my facial hair in the , er,, follicle. Not wearing much makeup in these. I think the fluorescent lighting in the dressing room shows off the bags under my eyes rather nicely.
So, go ahead and give me ur top 5 recommendations. Mine are:
1. HrT (very slim chance i could start next month)
2. Lazer (peww peww!)
3. Face transplant
4. Boobs ("next year I'm gonna ask Santa for breast implants because I'm impatient with my body")
5. Grow hair (*obviously!*)
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You have a lot of potential. I know it's hard but wait on implants tell 2 years of HRT. Your hair style is something that could use an upgrade though to help you pass better. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: femmebutt on May 11, 2015, 02:23:47 AM
Go ahead and gawk at me... I figure it's just returning the favor since I'm always checkin' you all out.
I have no illusions of 'passing' in my current state with my boy hair and large-ish features... and I want to punch my facial hair in the , er,, follicle. Not wearing much makeup in these. I think the fluorescent lighting in the dressing room shows off the bags under my eyes rather nicely.
So, go ahead and give me ur top 5 recommendations. Mine are:
1. HrT (very slim chance i could start next month)
2. Lazer (peww peww!)
3. Face transplant
4. Boobs ("next year I'm gonna ask Santa for breast implants because I'm impatient with my body")
5. ?
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Quote from: Mariah2014 on May 11, 2015, 02:27:38 AM
You ... could use ... better...Hugs
;--) Thx mariah!
http://s12.photobucket.com/user/marssu/library/ (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/marssu/library/)
Hey y'all!
I'm new here and so far loving this site! So much information about transition. :)
Anyway can you say some feminine features about my face and also features that need improvement. I'm considering rhinoplasty and maybe hairline lowering. Also do I pass as a woman? Thanks
Hi, Marssu, welcome to Susans. I can see feminine features but to be able to help you more I would need to see a front facing picture. I look forward to seeing around the site and gllad you love it. Good luck and hugs
Mariah
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Thank you mariah!
Can you see all of the pictures now?
yes, I can now. Your faces is feminine now. Are there things that could be done yes, but I could say about everyone including CIS. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: marssu on May 11, 2015, 10:29:49 AM
Thank you mariah!
Can you see all of the pictures now?
Quote from: marssu on May 11, 2015, 09:56:59 AM
http://s12.photobucket.com/user/marssu/library/ (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/marssu/library/)
Hey y'all!
I'm new here and so far loving this site! So much information about transition. :)
Anyway can you say some feminine features about my face and also features that need improvement. I'm considering rhinoplasty and maybe hairline lowering. Also do I pass as a woman? Thanks
Hey! You wouldn't need much, your face already has very feminine features in overall. You would definitely benefit with feminizing rhinoplasty (done correctly). If you would choose to have some forehead&orbital work while doing hairline lowering, that could be amazing difference. You already have forehead with nice overall shape, but a transition between forehead and nose could be improved, and feminization of orbital area. And maybe some chin remodeling. With what you are starting with, you would look amazing with some ffs.
Thank you very much! More suggestions/opinions are welcome! :)
I am thinking going to dr Bart van de Ven in Belgium
Quote from: marssu on May 11, 2015, 11:10:59 AM
Thank you very much! More suggestions/opinions are welcome! :)
I am thinking going to dr Bart van de Ven in Belgium
Well needless to say I'm happy with what he did with my face :).
He'll know exactly what you need. I think it will be lots of subtle things rather than anything major because you are already gorgeous. Girls like you often get told you don't need FFS but you are actually ideal for it, because your face is already very feminine so it's just about removing the (very) slight masculine hints.
Quote from: marssu on May 11, 2015, 09:56:59 AM
http://s12.photobucket.com/user/marssu/library/ (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/marssu/library/)
Hey y'all!
I'm new here and so far loving this site! So much information about transition. :)
Anyway can you say some feminine features about my face and also features that need improvement. I'm considering rhinoplasty and maybe hairline lowering. Also do I pass as a woman? Thanks
Girl I don't think that there is any need what so ever for u to get ffs done. You are very femme already. I think u are totally hot. ;)
Since u asked I will tell u what I think ur most femme features are and what ur most masculine ones are.
Femme:
Lips
Eyes
Jaw
Chin
Eyebrows
Masculine:
forehead
Honestly that's not even that bad. I think you are stunning and should not have a problem with passing.
COuld someone do mine again? I could use a list of feminine and masculine traits so I know what to work on.
@Shawn can you repost? or point to the posting? I can't find it.
Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on May 11, 2015, 05:48:26 PM
COuld someone do mine again? I could use a list of feminine and masculine traits so I know what to work on.
nevermind Shawn :) I found it. I would say that you and I have a similar priority..a more feminine nose. You have wonderful eyes, and a great complexion.
hmm yeah i thought about my nose once before, but i forgot about worrying about it....oops
its ok lol i am patient though because i want to see what happens in a year before I get too excited.
Quote from: Squircle on May 11, 2015, 02:42:22 PM
Well needless to say I'm happy with what he did with my face :).
Yeah I've seen his work and it's amazing and very natural looking. He is also very affordable for student girl like me. ::)
Thank you so much for the feedback and compliments all of you! I really appreciate it. I think I've made my decision to undergo some ffsurgeries. :)
Quote from: Marly on May 09, 2015, 09:20:44 PM
well I think my post got lost.
Here's another try. I am just beginning the process and still need electrolysis. But it think my makeup skills are improving. what do you think?
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Well maybe you should watch some tutorials on how to style your wig, and try brushing it I guess... It looks very messy, are you even wearing make up? I don't think I see anything really, I don't know if you are on hrt or not, but you look okay for being just at the starting point.
Marssu you look 100% female to me, are you sure you aren't cis? Drop dead gorgeous
lol i tried to butch up to walk my pup, this is the best I could do. A trans friend showed this pic to her trans friend, and she read me as FTM. :D
Think guy mode is probably over lol.
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You look so naturally feminine, Erin.
Fantastic!
Here is my first attempt, with a wig but the body is my own ;D
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a5/ba/3a/a5ba3adcb8f74fc302162cb26adf6157.jpg)
I would definitely agree with them. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: ErinS on May 13, 2015, 01:58:28 AM
lol i tried to butch up to walk my pup, this is the best I could do. A trans friend showed this pic to her trans friend, and she read me as FTM. :D
Think guy mode is probably over lol.
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Sophia, you look fine. I would say you pass.
Mariah
Quote from: SophiaW on May 13, 2015, 05:33:39 AM
You look so naturally feminine, Erin.
Fantastic!
Here is my first attempt, with a wig but the body is my own ;D
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a5/ba/3a/a5ba3adcb8f74fc302162cb26adf6157.jpg)
Quote from: ErinS on May 13, 2015, 01:58:28 AM
lol i tried to butch up to walk my pup, this is the best I could do. A trans friend showed this pic to her trans friend, and she read me as FTM. :D
Think guy mode is probably over lol.
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You look like a trucker cHick...totally my type. Yep boy mode is now offline rebooting to girl 2.0
Quote from: Serena ♡ on May 12, 2015, 05:25:41 PM
Marssu you look 100% female to me, are you sure you aren't cis? Drop dead gorgeous
Girl thank you so much! You look very pretty as well!!
I wish I was cis girl :<
Btw I saw your YouTube videos and you're half Somalian if I got that right? I'm myself 100% somalian :)
Quote from: Serena ♡ on May 12, 2015, 05:21:36 PM
Well maybe you should watch some tutorials on how to style your wig, and try brushing it I guess... It looks very messy, are you even wearing make up? I don't think I see anything really, I don't know if you are on hrt or not, but you look okay for being just at the starting point.
I do agree about the wig Serena :) Being totally bald for the last 10 years, I don't even possess a brush or comb lol.
And, no, I am not yet on HRT and thank you for the affirmation there!
I think I need to stop going with the brownish eye makeup since it seems to disappear in photographs.
Quote from: marssu on May 13, 2015, 12:06:32 PM
Girl thank you so much! You look very pretty as well!!
I wish I was cis girl :<
Btw I saw your YouTube videos and you're half Somalian if I got that right? I'm myself 100% somalian :)
Yes. You look like a GG to my eyes. You seem to already know something about girls' fashion.
barbie~~
Quote from: ErinS on May 13, 2015, 01:58:28 AM
lol i tried to butch up to walk my pup, this is the best I could do. A trans friend showed this pic to her trans friend, and she read me as FTM. :D
Think guy mode is probably over lol.
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Yes. I can notice the progress. You look more feminine now.
barbie~~
ErinS, u loook super good! for some reason u remind me of Lindsay Lohan in the car movie where she wears many denim
anyway here is a picture o f me im pre-hrt and not wearing makeup or anything because it would probably make my skin even grosser lmao
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i know i dont particularly pass, and im not really at the point where im trying to do that because im not out to my parents at all, so this is like pre-literally everythin g
Quote from: topit on May 13, 2015, 04:56:36 PM
ErinS, u loook super good! for some reason u remind me of Lindsay Lohan in the car movie where she wears many denim
anyway here is a picture o f me im pre-hrt and not wearing makeup or anything because it would probably make my skin even grosser lmao
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i know i dont particularly pass, and im not really at the point where im trying to do that because im not out to my parents at all, so this is like pre-literally everythin g
its ok hun, u have a really good base, and I definitely don't think ur skin is gross ;D. U have some very feminine features.
Also ur hair <3
Quote from: amber roskamp on May 13, 2015, 05:37:03 PM
its ok hun, u have a really good base, and I definitely don't think ur skin is gross ;D. U have some very feminine features.
Also ur hair <3
aw thanks !! and by gross skin i mean objectively gross, i have super sensitive skin and probably an allergy to some types of makeup and my face gets all red if i wear any haaaaah. also i'm just weird about it, like i get a little anxiety from especially like theater or stage makeup. maybe someday ill have time to experiment and im sure some weird whole foods organic stuff would work and not inflame my skin
also!!! this picture is from march I think and my hair is a little longer and a lot less magenta and i want to dye part of it again but i dont know what to do!
im pretty satisfied w/ the way I look tbh and sometimes ppl mistake me for a cis girl like on that awful website omegle sometimes but no matter ^~^
honestly though with ur skin and apparent lack of facial hair. I don't think u need make up. u are beautiful with out it :D
Quote from: amber roskamp on May 13, 2015, 07:03:58 PM
honestly though with ur skin and apparent lack of facial hair. I don't think u need make up. u are beautiful with out it :D
ditto
oh goodness thank yall so much !! ! im not sure how much i pass publicly bc im pretty tall but it is good to know that on the internet or in pictures B)
Quote from: barbie on May 13, 2015, 12:44:34 PM
Yes. You look like a GG to my eyes. You seem to already know something about girls' fashion.
barbie~~
Thanks Barbie :angel:
Guy mode has been long gone!
Quote from: ErinS on May 13, 2015, 01:58:28 AM
lol i tried to butch up to walk my pup, this is the best I could do. A trans friend showed this pic to her trans friend, and she read me as FTM. :D
Think guy mode is probably over lol.
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ErinS - love that outfit, lol :).
My take on "denim tuxedos" :) - my usual office look. Not that I am trying to fool someone anymore (most attempts to pass as a guy seem to be pathetic, so I would dare to say that I kinda pass) and strangers apparently dont care what I am wearing, lol. Last week I spent a couple of days abroad in legal conference (casual attire was acceptable) and at the end I got strong impression that most of the people I did interact with had no idea that I was not a cisgirl.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDhzlaeZ.jpg&hash=40959120c76dcd791c8cac94f20f45cda2adfa6c) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwVdIKsM.jpg&hash=b0796856e037d9013bd9410d13de3d5033b3fae8)
Below is what I wore shopping at Target yesterday. My emerging casual look clearly has many of the same elements of my clubbing look. My love affair with spaghetti western wear, crosses over that line, as well as my love affair with skeleton motifs (both my bracelet and my shoulder bag in these pictures have those).
I am tall enough to play in the NBA, and my natural voice is very base. I will never really pass in the conventional sense, but I see that as liberation rather than a obstacle. Because going really low key gains me nothing, I am free to be exactly what I feel inside. I know I will get noticed when I come into any room because of my style choices, but I actually break the ice a lot quicker that way. People look right at me, and I simply say "I am April". I smile and own that the best I can, which I think I do pretty well actually. I see it as a different kind of passing. I pass being who I am.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CE82uSwVAAAfCKT.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CE-KTbrUUAAgOns.jpg)
Throwing this out there... This is pre-anything (I just started HRT a few weeks ago). I've gone out shopping like this, but I know I didn't fully pass. But, I'm hoping HRT can help me out over the next couple years.
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Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on May 14, 2015, 01:30:27 PM
ErinS - love that outfit, lol :).
My take on "denim tuxedos" :) - my usual office look. Not that I am trying to fool someone anymore (most attempts to pass as a guy seem to be pathetic, so I would dare to say that I kinda pass) and strangers apparently dont care what I am wearing, lol. Last week I spent a couple of days abroad in legal conference (casual attire was acceptable) and at the end I got strong impression that most of the people I did interact with had no idea that I was not a cisgirl.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDhzlaeZ.jpg&hash=40959120c76dcd791c8cac94f20f45cda2adfa6c) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwVdIKsM.jpg&hash=b0796856e037d9013bd9410d13de3d5033b3fae8)
Yes. I can feel strong energy from your photos. You should be a working girl.
barbie~~
Quote from: April Lee on May 14, 2015, 02:51:03 PM
Below is what I wore shopping at Target yesterday. My emerging casual look clearly has many of the same elements of my clubbing look. My love affair with spaghetti western wear, crosses over that line, as well as my love affair with skeleton motifs (both my bracelet and my shoulder bag in these pictures have those).
I am tall enough to play in the NBA, and my natural voice is very base. I will never really pass in the conventional sense, but I see that as liberation rather than a obstacle. Because going really low key gains me nothing, I am free to be exactly what I feel inside. I know I will get noticed when I come into any room because of my style choices, but I actually break the ice a lot quicker that way. People look right at me, and I simply say "I am April". I smile and own that the best I can, which I think I do pretty well actually. I see it as a different kind of passing. I pass being who I am.
Probably I am in the same situation as you.
Yes. You look unique and fashion-sensible.
barbie~~
Quote from: marssu on May 13, 2015, 12:06:32 PM
Girl thank you so much! You look very pretty as well!!
I wish I was cis girl :<
Btw I saw your YouTube videos and you're half Somalian if I got that right? I'm myself 100% somalian :)
Omg that's great, yes my mother is somalian and my dad is italian so I am haf somalian XD <3 Thank you for watching by the way :)
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/rabidsl00th/196896_1003502011429_2013_n.jpg
The one without sunglasses is from a few years ago, and the one with sunglasses is more recent. Do you think I would have any chance of passing? I know makeup and doing something with my hair would help, but I feel like I may have trouble passing because of my nose, jawline, and chin. Any thoughts?
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This is from a few months ago. First time fully presenting female, felt so relaxed.
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You look very nice, Robin. I love that necklace.
Okay, I know I don't pass, but what about my nose and chin? I'm not going to do anything with my forehead, but I do worry about my nose and chin. Any thoughts?
Btw, don't mind the chest hair. My wife won't let me shave there yet.
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Quote from: ChiGirl on May 15, 2015, 07:13:04 PM
Okay, I know I don't pass, but what about my nose and chin? I'm not going to do anything with my forehead, but I do worry about my nose and chin. Any thoughts?
Did you get ur face lasered?! If not you conceal your shadow really well - ur skin looks great. Especially the head on pics.
Noise/chin I think makes sense with your face,, there's a harmony there. Rounder perhaps, but not necessarily masculine.
Actually you look really good for your first time. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: RobinGee on May 15, 2015, 10:31:50 AM
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This is from a few months ago. First time fully presenting female, felt so relaxed.
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Your nose is the bigger issue. Your chin isn't really bad at all. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: ChiGirl on May 15, 2015, 07:13:04 PM
Okay, I know I don't pass, but what about my nose and chin? I'm not going to do anything with my forehead, but I do worry about my nose and chin. Any thoughts?
Btw, don't mind the chest hair. My wife won't let me shave there yet.
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Quote from: Mariah2014 on May 15, 2015, 09:53:32 PM
Your nose is the bigger issue. Your chin isn't really bad at all. Hugs
Mariah
"Bigger" issue? Is that a joke? [emoji4] Yeah, I never really thought about my nose until now. I'll wait and see what HRT does, but my nose is really the only facial surgery I'm considering (outside of hair transplants). Thanks!
Quote from: femmebutt on May 15, 2015, 07:43:45 PM
Did you get ur face lasered?! If not you conceal your shadow really well - ur skin looks great. Especially the head on pics.
Noise/chin I think makes sense with your face,, there's a harmony there. Rounder perhaps, but not necessarily masculine.
I've only had one laser session, but it really helped my shadow. That's the good part; the bad part is that most of my beard is very blond and I'll need electrolysis.
Thank you. I've been taking care of my skin a lot better the last few months. I'm glad it's noticeable. Of course the foundation helps. [emoji6]
Seems like my nose is also an issue
But honestly I was not looking at it much lately...note I'm focusing on r
It more now. But I'm still ok for now.
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keep in mind im not on hormones yet :0(
this is the most flattering pi of me
it hides my little brow bossing, and the little not curved part of my nose and my jaw >,<
It's a lovely photo of you though. It's a good photo because you do pass. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: Ravenna on May 16, 2015, 01:05:18 PM
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keep in mind im not on hormones yet :0(
this is the most flattering pi of me
it hides my little brow bossing, and the little not curved part of my nose and my jaw >,<
If that's how you look pre-HRT (i.e. stunning) then you'd have no trouble passing.
Quote from: Kimberley Beauregard on May 16, 2015, 01:44:54 PM
If that's how you look pre-HRT (i.e. stunning) then you'd have no trouble passing.
awww :') your avatar is gorgeous !
Quote from: Ravenna on May 16, 2015, 01:05:18 PM
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keep in mind im not on hormones yet :0(
this is the most flattering pi of me
it hides my little brow bossing, and the little not curved part of my nose and my jaw >,<
You already have a nice figure as a girl. Lovely eyes, lips and eye brows.
Oh. Like you, I'm not on hormone, and I have no plan of HRT.
barbie~~
Quote from: Ravenna on May 16, 2015, 01:05:18 PM
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keep in mind im not on hormones yet :0(
this is the most flattering pi of me
it hides my little brow bossing, and the little not curved part of my nose and my jaw >,<
Wow you look great!
Emily, you don't belong in this thread anymore. I love the look and you are 101% passable.
Stay beautiful xo
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on May 14, 2015, 01:30:27 PM
ErinS - love that outfit, lol :).
My take on "denim tuxedos" :) - my usual office look. Not that I am trying to fool someone anymore (most attempts to pass as a guy seem to be pathetic, so I would dare to say that I kinda pass) and strangers apparently dont care what I am wearing, lol. Last week I spent a couple of days abroad in legal conference (casual attire was acceptable) and at the end I got strong impression that most of the people I did interact with had no idea that I was not a cisgirl.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDhzlaeZ.jpg&hash=40959120c76dcd791c8cac94f20f45cda2adfa6c) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwVdIKsM.jpg&hash=b0796856e037d9013bd9410d13de3d5033b3fae8)
Quote from: carmenkate on May 17, 2015, 06:33:50 AM
Emily, you don't belong in this thread anymore. I love the look and you are 101% passable.
Stay beautiful xo
Aww, thanks :), but so are You - You dont really in this thread either. and I am continuously amazed of Your progress - You are not even a year on HRT and all Your pictures look gorgeous. Sometimes, I get quite jealous of those young transitioners of Your kind ;).
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on May 17, 2015, 01:50:59 PM
Aww, thanks :), but so are You - You dont really in this thread either. and I am continuously amazed of Your progress - You are not even a year on HRT and all Your pictures look gorgeous. Sometimes, I get quite jealous of those young transitioners of Your kind ;).
Thank you babes you're kind. I wish I can come close to the level of your progress. You're absolutely stunning sweets xo
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I am getting old :(
so how bad?
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side view of my residing hair and forehead/nose
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extra photo as I took three!!
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Sarah Leah, I do not see any strikingly man-lish features in Your face. Your nose, chin and jawline are fine, Your forehead seems OK-ish. Of course, that beard shadow is not really helping. Not at all. The biggest issue is the receding hairline along temples, which is not THAT bad yet, but You certainly should try to get some medical help (if You are not on HRT) to stop testosterone conversion into DHT hormone in Your blood and save what You have now (with possible chances for regrowth under HRT and finasteride/dutasteride).
The good news are, however, on HRT Your skin will become smoother and You might look younger than Your current age (I can attest that with personal experience and I am older than You).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6qGfY-ul74 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6qGfY-ul74)
This is my third month on hormones update video, I changed up my wig by cutting the bangs and the overall length, and hopefully made it look less wiggy, what do you think?
I still never pass ever, due to the facial hair shadow, I am trying to start laser as soon as possible. Lately, I've kind of felt depressed about how I look, I can't wait until I am 1 year on hormons and ffs >_<
Quote from: Sarah leah on May 18, 2015, 07:40:59 AM
I am getting old :(
so how bad?
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side view of my residing hair and forehead/nose
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extra photo as I took three!!
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I agree with Emily you don't have any striking male feauture, I barely see any bossing, and your chin and jaw is really femme! Well, I would suggest you to start HRT as soon as possible, block DHT, I don't know if you would need a hair transplant or not, I'm not good at those things, but the sooner the start the better it is, especially to block DHT, so that there is less damage on your hair. You should also start doing laser, and do your eyebrows, besides that face wise you can be very passable.
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on May 14, 2015, 01:30:27 PM
ErinS - love that outfit, lol :).
My take on "denim tuxedos" :) - my usual office look. Not that I am trying to fool someone anymore (most attempts to pass as a guy seem to be pathetic, so I would dare to say that I kinda pass) and strangers apparently dont care what I am wearing, lol. Last week I spent a couple of days abroad in legal conference (casual attire was acceptable) and at the end I got strong impression that most of the people I did interact with had no idea that I was not a cisgirl.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDhzlaeZ.jpg&hash=40959120c76dcd791c8cac94f20f45cda2adfa6c) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwVdIKsM.jpg&hash=b0796856e037d9013bd9410d13de3d5033b3fae8)
Girl, it's not gonna happen, you won't pass as a guy anymore... You look really cis even like this, I am jealous of you D: I wish I could pull that off.
Quote from: Serena ♡ on May 18, 2015, 02:56:44 PM
I still never pass ever, due to the facial hair shadow, I am trying to start laser as soon as possible. Lately, I've kind of felt depressed about how I look, I can't wait until I am 1 year on hormons and ffs >_<
I am not sure if you are serious. Facial hair shadow, sure. It happens. But, if you think you never pass, you're wrong. You're gorgeous and I wouldn't clock you at all. I hear the laser works real well, and combined with the HRT, I think you're going to be just fine. :)
Quote from: PC509 on May 18, 2015, 03:25:08 PM
I am not sure if you are serious. Facial hair shadow, sure. It happens. But, if you think you never pass, you're wrong. You're gorgeous and I wouldn't clock you at all. I hear the laser works real well, and combined with the HRT, I think you're going to be just fine. :)
No I don't ever pass, I am just at 3 months of hrt, so my body is kind of androgynous, I am not super tall, but how can you even pass with a huge brow bossing, super square chin, my natural hair are not super long, they cover my ears already, and it's kinda like a short bob but not much, and I have a very noticeable facial hair shadow.
Ehmm, relax, okey let me rephrase "RELAX".
You were already way more fem than male before hormones, I've got a pretty prominent brow and I've not done any FFS work, honestly I get a mis-gendered about once per month. Your chin is fine, your hair is gorgeous and never ever be afraid to tuck your hair back of your ears, if you don't you will go insane outdoors where there is a breeze
I don't see any shadow but if you do, just a dab of red/orange lipstick under some foundation/powder will take care of it.
You are gorgeous :)
Quote from: Serena ♡ on May 18, 2015, 10:59:21 PM
No I don't ever pass, I am just at 3 months of hrt, so my body is kind of androgynous, I am not super tall, but how can you even pass with a huge brow bossing, super square chin, my natural hair are not super long, they cover my ears already, and it's kinda like a short bob but not much, and I have a very noticeable facial hair shadow.
Do your worst, my confidence literally can't get any worse than it is right now.
I look like a man and may always look like a man, no matter how long I'm on HRT.
So hit me with your best shot.
Five weeks HRT.
Take a look at my profile pic.
Quote from: PsychedelicSage on May 27, 2015, 09:57:21 AM
Do your worst, my confidence literally can't get any worse than it is right now.
I look like a man and may always look like a man, no matter how long I'm on HRT.
So hit me with your best shot.
Five weeks HRT.
Take a look at my profile pic.
It's breaking my neck because I have to bend sideways. :p
Seriously you look good though.
Quote from: PsychedelicSage on May 27, 2015, 09:57:21 AM
Do your worst, my confidence literally can't get any worse than it is right now.
I look like a man and may always look like a man, no matter how long I'm on HRT.
So hit me with your best shot.
Five weeks HRT.
Take a look at my profile pic.
Hun I think you look cute. Do you pass as cis perfectly?? no, not yet. That doesn't mean you won't in the future. And that doesn't mean your not beautiful.
You just started hrt and I think you have a good base. Hormones take time to work. Let them work.
Quote from: PsychedelicSage on May 27, 2015, 09:57:21 AM
Do your worst, my confidence literally can't get any worse than it is right now.
I look like a man and may always look like a man, no matter how long I'm on HRT.
So hit me with your best shot.
Five weeks HRT.
Take a look at my profile pic.
You've got so much potential. Do you pass perfectly now? Not really, but if you were out in public, I think you'd get the benefit of the doubt and be gendered correctly.
Give HRT some time and I think you'll be very happy.
Now stand up straight! [emoji14] HUGS!
Quote from: PsychedelicSage on May 27, 2015, 09:57:21 AM
Do your worst, my confidence literally can't get any worse than it is right now.
I look like a man and may always look like a man, no matter how long I'm on HRT.
So hit me with your best shot.
Five weeks HRT.
Take a look at my profile pic.
You're beautiful...take a look at mine, and see what 40 years of T can do! But I am what I am, and darn it I'm beautiful in my own way as well!
*hugs*
Quote from: PsychedelicSage on May 27, 2015, 09:57:21 AM
Do your worst, my confidence literally can't get any worse than it is right now.
I look like a man and may always look like a man, no matter how long I'm on HRT.
So hit me with your best shot.
Five weeks HRT.
Take a look at my profile pic.
I'll be honest with you, I read your comment and my first reaction was as followed
"What? How's doesn't she look convincing?"
You are always harder on yourself than compared to others.
And 5 weeks of hrt is basically nothing so chin up :). I think you have a ton of potential.
Since I always stalk this thread I figured I would put something on myself pre everything and be honest please :)
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Luna, you're pre-everything?
You ain't got no worries, girl.
no worries at all Luna!
And welcome to the Pre-everything club. Hopefully we won't be in this club for long:)
Quote from: Luna Star on May 27, 2015, 05:36:01 PM
Since I always stalk this thread I figured I would put something on myself pre everything and be honest please :)
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You look very cute, Luna. [emoji4]
Quote from: Beth Andrea on May 27, 2015, 03:00:55 PM
I'm beautiful in my own way as well!
Yes! We are all the same in that respect.
barbie~~
Here is my first ever contribution. Had my makeup done by a pro. I kinda didn't like either of the wigs..... 33 here, no HRT yet just some electrolysis. Feel free to give me the good, bad and the ugly. Hopefully HRT and FFS will help a bit with the face situation.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi499.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr353%2Fzozie82%2Frat%2F2015-05-27-21-31-00-650_zpshsoblwja.jpg&hash=6107819fae71cdde2a3833df20b3f34805272c95) (http://s499.photobucket.com/user/zozie82/media/rat/2015-05-27-21-31-00-650_zpshsoblwja.jpg.html)
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Quote from: typo on May 28, 2015, 05:19:13 AM
Here is my first ever contribution. Had my makeup done by a pro. I kinda didn't like either of the wigs..... 33 here, no HRT yet just some electrolysis. Feel free to give me the good, bad and the ugly. Hopefully HRT and FFS will help a bit with the face situation.
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the bottom picture is where its at. I really like the way the wig frames your face. It would be nice if you could grow your hair out and get your hair styled that way. the make up looks nice.
Funny I don't like any of them, my wife said the one with the long wig looked best.
I'm guessing that your wife is one who looks to hair as a strong beauty point. I'm a bit like that too. the long curls are lovely. But agree that the wig in the second pic does frame your face wonderfully. As for HRT and FFS, you're very cute even right now. I'd wait and just see what HRT does for you first.
I agree with your wife , and think that the long hair makes you look very good!
Emily
I think you'll do great typo! I definitely like the 2nd picture the best, but the 3rd is good too. ^_^
Third pic, medium length.
The second has too much of a forehead part imho.
Quote from: typo on May 28, 2015, 05:19:13 AM
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This looks like Bobbi from Agents of SHIELD. :) Very pretty!
Quote from: typo on May 28, 2015, 05:19:13 AM
Here is my first ever contribution. Had my makeup done by a pro. I kinda didn't like either of the wigs..... 33 here, no HRT yet just some electrolysis. Feel free to give me the good, bad and the ugly. Hopefully HRT and FFS will help a bit with the face situation.
I don't see what you would want FFS for, HRT alone could likely do all the feminizing you'd "need" to "pass" as female. I think that it's probably good that you are getting the electrolysis over with now, I am dealing with that now and let me tell you, it sucks to be a bearded lady for a few days in preparation. Anyways, you look great!
Quote from: Luna Star on May 27, 2015, 05:36:01 PM
Since I always stalk this thread I figured I would put something on myself pre everything and be honest please :)
My honest opinion, you look fairly androgynous leaning more towards femme. Surely I think that if your voice (which I have not heard) were to have a "female tone" than you would come off as female. In addition your mannerisms would be an indicator to people. Either way HRT will likely do wonders for you, if that's the route you choose. Not a magic pill or anything, but seriously, have you seen the before and after of some folks from just HRT?! It's amazing!
First post, hi everyone. I'm pre-everything. Working on my makeup skills and trying to figure out what to do with my hair. I'm not so concerned with passing 100% but nevertheless I'd love to know to what extent I look feminine. My first goal is to get rid of my beard shadow, which looks really bad and prevents me from having a smooth canvas to apply makeup, which drives me crazy. Also, I have no idea what to do with my eyebrows.
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Don't sugarcoat it - I'd much prefer honest analysis!
Thanks ahead of time!
looks great Rachel!
Give this a try for your eyebrows. Take an eyebrow pencil and start at the lower innermost eyebrow hair. draw a straight (yes straight..do not curve the line) outward just past the uppermost eyebrow hair. then angle a short line mirroring the angle of the outer corner of your eyelid. then, using a stiff brush (I have one that resembles a mascara brush) blend upward and outward with your eyelashes until it reasonably blends.
Give it a try. This is what I do, at least until I go full time and I will then probably shave them off and draw my eyebrows...maybe :)
Pre everything here too! Hopefully going the route of hormones soon to fix the difficult spots!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi60.tinypic.com%2Fvhq15c.jpg&hash=611e8208167c74972d4dcf0b5efc649d8f0f7e66)
Quote from: RachelsMantra on May 28, 2015, 06:57:29 PM
First post, hi everyone. I'm pre-everything. Working on my makeup skills and trying to figure out what to do with my hair. I'm not so concerned with passing 100% but nevertheless I'd love to know to what extent I look feminine. My first goal is to get rid of my beard shadow, which looks really bad and prevents me from having a smooth canvas to apply makeup, which drives me crazy. Also, I have no idea what to do with my eyebrows.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeA8vMp1.jpg&hash=5ffe3ccc0510df9a119aa74b4d141bc2d4e1d3bf)
Don't sugarcoat it - I'd much prefer honest analysis!
Thanks ahead of time!
You look like you'd pass very well, but the beard shadow (I assume you're taking care of this ASAP) may pose a problem. However it is not prominent at all. I'd say you'll have a good time passing.
Quote from: JeanJeanie on May 28, 2015, 08:03:49 PM
Pre everything here too! Hopefully going the route of hormones soon to fix the difficult spots!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi60.tinypic.com%2Fvhq15c.jpg&hash=611e8208167c74972d4dcf0b5efc649d8f0f7e66)
those eyes..gorgeous!
Quote from: JeanJeanie on May 28, 2015, 08:03:49 PM
Pre everything here too! Hopefully going the route of hormones soon to fix the difficult spots!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi60.tinypic.com%2Fvhq15c.jpg&hash=611e8208167c74972d4dcf0b5efc649d8f0f7e66)
Ok really? I mean omg! You are already like 99% girl. From this photo I would have thought you are a gg...
Beautiful. Definitely pass.
Mariah
Quote from: JeanJeanie on May 28, 2015, 08:03:49 PM
Pre everything here too! Hopefully going the route of hormones soon to fix the difficult spots!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi60.tinypic.com%2Fvhq15c.jpg&hash=611e8208167c74972d4dcf0b5efc649d8f0f7e66)
RachelsMantra, I totally love your hair. It's such a great cut and style for you. And you have really attractive features in general-- a great face. Other than that you just need to deal with the usual details of the shadow and eyebrows, as others have mentioned. Facial hair removal is expensive and not pleasant, but once you get it behind you it's on to other things and I'm sure you're headed to some good places.
You basically seem feminine to me, and the most masculine signals I get in the four photos is in your facial expressions. Changing the way you use your face can't really be controlled deliberately, I think. You pretty much have to do this from within. Let the guy go and allow the girl to seep out your pores. Don't block her. She'll shine though soon enough.
Quote from: typo on May 28, 2015, 05:19:13 AM
Here is my first ever contribution. Had my makeup done by a pro. I kinda didn't like either of the wigs..... 33 here, no HRT yet just some electrolysis. Feel free to give me the good, bad and the ugly. Hopefully HRT and FFS will help a bit with the face situation.
Frankly speaking, I do not think you ever need HRT and FFS. You already look feminine and beautiful enough. HRT and FFS will be just waste of money and time, IMHO.
barbie~~
Quote from: RachelsMantra on May 28, 2015, 06:57:29 PM
First post, hi everyone. I'm pre-everything. Working on my makeup skills and trying to figure out what to do with my hair. I'm not so concerned with passing 100% but nevertheless I'd love to know to what extent I look feminine. My first goal is to get rid of my beard shadow, which looks really bad and prevents me from having a smooth canvas to apply makeup, which drives me crazy. Also, I have no idea what to do with my eyebrows.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeA8vMp1.jpg&hash=5ffe3ccc0510df9a119aa74b4d141bc2d4e1d3bf)
Don't sugarcoat it - I'd much prefer honest analysis!
Thanks ahead of time!
Yes. My 2 cent analysis. The camera angle. You may try a higher position of your camera to take photos looking straight or down your eyes.
barbie~~
Celebrated 9 months on HRT :) so far I am liking the progress. Hope everyone is having a great day xo
April
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Beautiful as always April and Congrats on 9 months of HRT. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: carmenkate on May 30, 2015, 03:48:57 PM
Celebrated 9 months on HRT :) so far I am liking the progress. Hope everyone is having a great day xo
April
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FP2lTxzd.jpg&hash=cdece6b0d5c97196dd94721af90dfccbcf2293b7)
Thank you Miss Mariah xoxo You're gorgeous as always.
Quote from: Mariah2014 on May 30, 2015, 03:59:03 PM
Beautiful as always April and Congrats on 9 months of HRT. Hugs
Mariah
So I have been wondering if I was going to post on this thread or not. Because to some degree I think I am scared of the response. However, here goes nothing. Am I passable? I am pre-HRT and everything.
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_NJNiEbbwQpZmNlMlZFZTYxeEE/view?usp=sharing)
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_NJNiEbbwQpZHN3TUVmWGQwU1E/view?usp=sharing)
Sorry something went wrong with the post above. Here is two links to my goodle drive:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_NJNiEbbwQpZmNlMlZFZTYxeEE/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_NJNiEbbwQpZHN3TUVmWGQwU1E/view?usp=sharing
Melitta
Since we don't have permission to view we are still unable to see them. I wish I could tell you how you look but the pictures are still unavailable to us. Thanks
Mariah
Quote from: MelittaStafford on May 31, 2015, 03:15:03 PM
Sorry something went wrong with the post above. Here is two links to my goodle drive:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_NJNiEbbwQpZmNlMlZFZTYxeEE/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_NJNiEbbwQpZHN3TUVmWGQwU1E/view?usp=sharing
Melitta
Okay try these links:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_NJNiEbbwQpZmNlMlZFZTYxeEE/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_NJNiEbbwQpZHN3TUVmWGQwU1E/view?usp=sharing
Melitta
Much better and you do pass. I love that hair style on you. I think it really suits you. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: MelittaStafford on May 31, 2015, 04:16:11 PM
Okay try these links:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_NJNiEbbwQpZmNlMlZFZTYxeEE/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_NJNiEbbwQpZHN3TUVmWGQwU1E/view?usp=sharing
Melitta
Thank you. I chose it because I have a buzzed head and wanted to start my transition in stages. I thought I would feel very uncomfortable with long hair having has a buzzed head for so many years. I am hoping that I can start laser hair removal and HRT very soon. I feel like both with help with my dysphoria.
Melitta.
Hey ho howdy here's me ;D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F2vwtpw0.jpg&hash=4d510695b658de1e9c84730b96a633cb0db9ea22)
I haven't started experimentin with makeup or anythin even bc I don't like things on my FACE
I'm pretty sure you pass, but the glare really makes a good read hard to get. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: carmenkate on May 30, 2015, 03:48:57 PM
Celebrated 9 months on HRT :) so far I am liking the progress. Hope everyone is having a great day xo
April
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FP2lTxzd.jpg&hash=cdece6b0d5c97196dd94721af90dfccbcf2293b7)
Beee-uuu-tiful. I love your makeup what highlighter do you use?
Quote from: topit on June 01, 2015, 10:49:04 PM
Hey ho howdy here's me ;D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F2vwtpw0.jpg&hash=4d510695b658de1e9c84730b96a633cb0db9ea22)
I haven't started experimentin with makeup or anythin even bc I don't like things on my FACE
You have a nice body figure.
How about trying putting your hair back?
Shoes are also critical in fashion.
barbie~~
Quote from: topit on June 01, 2015, 10:49:04 PM
Hey ho howdy here's me ;D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F2vwtpw0.jpg&hash=4d510695b658de1e9c84730b96a633cb0db9ea22)
I haven't started experimentin with makeup or anythin even bc I don't like things on my FACE
Omg you have so much potential! You already look like a cute girl to me. Work on that makeup girl!
Hi Yayo, I think I was using Mary Louminizer by the Balm. Or I'll switch it up with Becca skin perfector. Thanks babe :-)
Quote from: yayo on June 02, 2015, 01:47:43 AM
Beee-uuu-tiful. I love your makeup what highlighter do you use?
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Quote from: Jessika on November 16, 2014, 05:47:49 PM
<---I'll use my current Avatar since we are starting over. ;D
I think you can pass.
Quote from: Danielle Emmalee on November 16, 2014, 09:18:53 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10394854_10153307175869838_1920652698295355077_n.jpg?oh=97773836b5b40540f91f16e6ee98bebf&oe=54E4D17A&__gda__=1428108439_e3891c253b004c02fa38c7fe15b3ef4a)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10805181_10153311017194838_1565147328_n.jpg?oh=427403881e25e3b9e2bda776eda2af0a&oe=546C7851&__gda__=1416397696_238d3a9460e9e1d3a8dddf5348917563)
Yes, you look like a woman santa clause.
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 17, 2014, 05:47:05 PM
I like your hair! it really cute
I don't think you look like a woman yet, but you're very goodlooking either way!
I don't think passing is possible for me without serious and unaffordable face surgery.
Self-acceptance is not an easy ask when every facet of your body screams male when looking in the mirror.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh247%2FZoe_the_Obscure%2FDSC07727_zpssmpatoxw.jpg&hash=1ff2c021b5f9732471aa5e18bf38491818f16dc6) (http://s66.photobucket.com/user/Zoe_the_Obscure/media/DSC07727_zpssmpatoxw.jpg.html)
Actually, I think you have a very androgynous face. Your hairline is feminine and your have nice eyes. I could see you do some work on your nose. MAYBE.
Hugs!
Quote from: Jake25 on June 02, 2015, 05:59:34 PM
I don't think you look like a woman yet, but you're very goodlooking either way!
I know ur trying to complement me but ouch..... That comment was pointed towards me right?
"Actually, I think you have a very androgynous face. Your hairline is feminine and your have nice eyes. I could see you do some work on your nose. MAYBE.
Hugs! "
My nose is the worst part. It was never pretty to begin with and after getting in many fights in my youth, it is disfigured from being broken a dozen times. The expense of FFS seems well beyond anything I can afford. Maybe I should start buying lottery tickets.
These are all no makeup pics I've taken within the past week. I'm now at 6 full months on HRT and nearing 7. Haven't posted since my 3-4 month pics. I'm curious to see if I'm passable at this stage of HRT. I had very positive feedback at 3-4 months, though most of those had light makeup, such as lipstick and eyeshadow. As always, any positive feedback, as well as constructive criticism, is greatly appreciated. Thank you! :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps09jdv4kl.jpg&hash=d212d38db82522c6ec10dc95cdb7855c54c6a2e3) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps09jdv4kl.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsiyc0sxvh.jpg&hash=39531e0a508cbb5a281a26ae5358deb95561bb2d) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsiyc0sxvh.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsbewylhei.jpg&hash=05dfecd1bfea87ee7c74d77c91a4299ff8c0ea6b) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsbewylhei.jpg.html)
I think you pass. Looking great. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: Alyssa Rae on June 03, 2015, 09:13:29 PM
These are all no makeup pics I've taken within the past week. I'm now at 6 full months on HRT and nearing 7. Haven't posted since my 3-4 month pics. I'm curious to see if I'm passable at this stage of HRT. I had very positive feedback at 3-4 months, though most of those had light makeup, such as lipstick and eyeshadow. As always, any positive feedback, as well as constructive criticism, is greatly appreciated. Thank you! :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps09jdv4kl.jpg&hash=d212d38db82522c6ec10dc95cdb7855c54c6a2e3) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps09jdv4kl.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsiyc0sxvh.jpg&hash=39531e0a508cbb5a281a26ae5358deb95561bb2d) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsiyc0sxvh.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1383.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah306%2Falyssa89071%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsbewylhei.jpg&hash=05dfecd1bfea87ee7c74d77c91a4299ff8c0ea6b) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/alyssa89071/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsbewylhei.jpg.html)
hi all, I'm having a tough time determining if i'm getting read or not when in public. This is how I went to work today and did some shopping as well. I'm not getting much stares, but i just don't know. I'm very light with my makeup too.
i want honest feedback, no BS please. I know it's just a 2d picture. but does my face sort of pass? i pretty solid on my walk, mannerisms and voice, so i'm not really worried there.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtO7vCCf.jpg&hash=a105db46674a14d9b7a6b784366fa1f1f56a827f)
I think sorta hits it on the nose to be honest. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: michelle82 on June 03, 2015, 10:13:11 PM
hi all, I'm having a tough time determining if i'm getting read or not when in public. This is how I went to work today and did some shopping as well. I'm not getting much stares, but i just don't know. I'm very light with my makeup too.
i want honest feedback, no BS please. I know it's just a 2d picture. but does my face sort of pass? i pretty solid on my walk, mannerisms and voice, so i'm not really worried there.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtO7vCCf.jpg&hash=a105db46674a14d9b7a6b784366fa1f1f56a827f)
My recent look - since going full time May 2nd. Passable?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8792/17798327044_c6f66f7a1e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/t7M5xE)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8872/18416751482_70f3752185_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/u4qEzY)
This is still my old wig - getting my hair system this Saturday. YAY!!!!
The headshot I'm wearing frost blue eyeliner with bright green eyeshadow - you can't see it very well, but it looked awesome. lol.
- Jess
Hi Jess. I think you pass. The second pic really help me see that fact. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: Jessica Jaclyn Reimer on June 04, 2015, 01:16:10 AM
My recent look - since going full time May 2nd. Passable?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8792/17798327044_c6f66f7a1e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/t7M5xE)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8872/18416751482_70f3752185_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/u4qEzY)
This is still my old wig - getting my hair system this Saturday. YAY!!!!
The headshot I'm wearing frost blue eyeliner with bright green eyeshadow - you can't see it very well, but it looked awesome. lol.
- Jess
Quote from: Jessica Jaclyn Reimer on June 04, 2015, 01:16:10 AM
My recent look - since going full time May 2nd. Passable?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8792/17798327044_c6f66f7a1e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/t7M5xE)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8872/18416751482_70f3752185_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/u4qEzY)
This is still my old wig - getting my hair system this Saturday. YAY!!!!
The headshot I'm wearing frost blue eyeliner with bright green eyeshadow - you can't see it very well, but it looked awesome. lol.
- Jess
My honest opinion is that if I saw you on the street I would suspect you were not a ciswoman because of your body not necessarily your face.
I thought I'd join with the other girls. Anyone know Annie's phone #
Quote from: Jessica Jaclyn Reimer on June 04, 2015, 01:16:10 AM
My recent look - since going full time May 2nd. Passable?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8792/17798327044_c6f66f7a1e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/t7M5xE)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8872/18416751482_70f3752185_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/u4qEzY)
This is still my old wig - getting my hair system this Saturday. YAY!!!!
The headshot I'm wearing frost blue eyeliner with bright green eyeshadow - you can't see it very well, but it looked awesome. lol.
- Jess
hi Jess,
well I have to counter the previous post. Not all women have small shoulders and uber curves (but your getting there) and I don't see anything that says non-passable. A person's mannerism in combo might be a giveaway. But a casual glance wouldn't even betray that.
Oh! and I'd love to hear about what your getting as a hair system. If you've seen some of my other posts, you'd know why it rates higher on my needs list than anything else from my neck-up :)
Quote from: michelle82 on June 03, 2015, 10:13:11 PM
hi all, I'm having a tough time determining if i'm getting read or not when in public. This is how I went to work today and did some shopping as well. I'm not getting much stares, but i just don't know. I'm very light with my makeup too.
i want honest feedback, no BS please. I know it's just a 2d picture. but does my face sort of pass? i pretty solid on my walk, mannerisms and voice, so i'm not really worried there.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtO7vCCf.jpg&hash=a105db46674a14d9b7a6b784366fa1f1f56a827f)
Honestly you look very good and I would not look twice at you other than to marvel at your cute short curly hair!
Quote from: michelle82 on June 03, 2015, 10:13:11 PM
hi all, I'm having a tough time determining if i'm getting read or not when in public. This is how I went to work today and did some shopping as well. I'm not getting much stares, but i just don't know. I'm very light with my makeup too.
i want honest feedback, no BS please. I know it's just a 2d picture. but does my face sort of pass? i pretty solid on my walk, mannerisms and voice, so i'm not really worried there.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtO7vCCf.jpg&hash=a105db46674a14d9b7a6b784366fa1f1f56a827f)
Hi Michelle,
I honestly think you look androgynous in this photo. Passing visually at a glance is sometimes a matter of tipping the scales of gender slightly more in one direction or the other, and I believe I would gender you female on the street if you were dressed in unambiguous women's clothing--a dress, a skirt, a certain kind of top, etc.--but might be uncertain if you were in unisex or men's clothing. I'm not saying you *should* wear that kind of clothing, to be clear--just that an explicit female marker in terms of clothing and/or makeup would tip the scales for me, I think. Your face is definitely not masculine--it's just that there's something andro about, at least to me, that might make me look at you for a moment longer than normal out of uncertainty. I've experienced this kind of thing myself a lot. I find I 'pass' well visually if I wear unambiguous female clothing but I seem to get more confused looks and less gendered greetings if I wear more unisex clothing.
Hope that helps somehow! Good luck! And remember that a stare isn't always an attempt to gender someone; it might simply be someone finding you attractive. :)
Quote from: Jessica Jaclyn Reimer on June 04, 2015, 01:16:10 AM
My recent look - since going full time May 2nd. Passable?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8792/17798327044_c6f66f7a1e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/t7M5xE)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8872/18416751482_70f3752185_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/u4qEzY)
This is still my old wig - getting my hair system this Saturday. YAY!!!!
The headshot I'm wearing frost blue eyeliner with bright green eyeshadow - you can't see it very well, but it looked awesome. lol.
- Jess
Hi Jess,
well, to be honest, I think you look pretty here but you wouldn't pass if I saw you. I don't mean that to be mean. In the second photo, your face and wig look very cute but I think I can see some beard shadow, for one, and there is something else that throws me off, as well--I don't know if it is facial structure or the nose or what. In the first photo, you do seem to pass significantly more from a distance. I do think your body structure may get you noticed, but that's not a given, and I can't fully see how tall or broad-shouldered you are from the photo. Of course, there are tall and large ciswomen in abundance out there, but when it comes to passing visually, sometimes what a ciswoman can pull off becomes the thing that outs us unless we, too, are able to pass perfectly in every other respect visually, at least at a lingering glance. So, it's something about your face--I think removing the beard shadow will take you a large step closer to not only passing but passing as an attractive woman. I apologise if you know this already, but using an orange product underneath your foundation will colour-correct the blue/green undertones of your shadow. MAC's Morange lipstick, a matte orange eyeshadow, MAC's orange concealer, etc.--these, used sparingly, will completely erase your shadow. The other option is a heavier full-coverage foundation, but heavy foundation is something else that can lead to more stares and thus more possible mis-gendering.
Hope that helps and good luck!
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Mariah
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Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on June 04, 2015, 08:17:34 PM
Hi Michelle,
I honestly think you look androgynous in this photo. Passing visually at a glance is sometimes a matter of tipping the scales of gender slightly more in one direction or the other, and I believe I would gender you female on the street if you were dressed in unambiguous women's clothing--a dress, a skirt, a certain kind of top, etc.--but might be uncertain if you were in unisex or men's clothing. I'm not saying you *should* wear that kind of clothing, to be clear--just that an explicit female marker in terms of clothing and/or makeup would tip the scales for me, I think. Your face is definitely not masculine--it's just that there's something andro about, at least to me, that might make me look at you for a moment longer than normal out of uncertainty. I've experienced this kind of thing myself a lot. I find I 'pass' well visually if I wear unambiguous female clothing but I seem to get more confused looks and less gendered greetings if I wear more unisex clothing.
Hope that helps somehow! Good luck! And remember that a stare isn't always an attempt to gender someone; it might simply be someone finding you attractive. :)
Hi Jess,
well, to be honest, I think you look pretty here but you wouldn't pass if I saw you. I don't mean that to be mean. In the second photo, your face and wig look very cute but I think I can see some beard shadow, for one, and there is something else that throws me off, as well--I don't know if it is facial structure or the nose or what. In the first photo, you do seem to pass significantly more from a distance. I do think your body structure may get you noticed, but that's not a given, and I can't fully see how tall or broad-shouldered you are from the photo. Of course, there are tall and large ciswomen in abundance out there, but when it comes to passing visually, sometimes what a ciswoman can pull off becomes the thing that outs us unless we, too, are able to pass perfectly in every other respect visually, at least at a lingering glance. So, it's something about your face--I think removing the beard shadow will take you a large step closer to not only passing but passing as an attractive woman. I apologise if you know this already, but using an orange product underneath your foundation will colour-correct the blue/green undertones of your shadow. MAC's Morange lipstick, a matte orange eyeshadow, MAC's orange concealer, etc.--these, used sparingly, will completely erase your shadow. The other option is a heavier full-coverage foundation, but heavy foundation is something else that can lead to more stares and thus more possible mis-gendering.
Hope that helps and good luck!
Thanks for the feedback. I agree about dressing a slightly bit more feminine to tip the scales. That was my work outfit so I was dressed a bit more casual with a cardigan.
I think your right about my face being androgynous right now. I'm two months on HRT and my hair is still kind of in that short phase. It's curly so it takes time to grow out. I'll check back back in 6 months right before going full time, hopefully I'll be a bit more progressed beyond andro.
My plan is still to get FFS and time it with going fulltime but we will see!!
Thanks for thoughtful and constructive feedback!!
At work, tired, no makeup. No photoshop. Taken with a galaxy s5. We had some electrical maintenance so I was up late.
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I'm kind of prepping for full time at work making gradual changes.
My colleagues seem to only notice my hair... Or so they say. One guy offered me a pair of scissors.
Quote from: iKate on June 05, 2015, 08:07:25 PM
At work, tired, no makeup. No photoshop. Taken with a galaxy s5. We had some electrical maintenance so I was up late.
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I'm kind of prepping for full time at work making gradual changes.
My colleagues seem to only notice my hair... Or so they say. One guy offered me a pair of scissors.
This is the most helpful picture of you I've seen. Most of us glam it up a bit so it's hard to really assess (and that's totally fine) but this pic seems totally natural and candid. I think you look great and I really don't see a man even though I'm looking for one. Your progress has been very rewarding to watch and gives me hope.
Quote from: Abysha on June 05, 2015, 09:32:56 PM
This is the most helpful picture of you I've seen. Most of us glam it up a bit so it's hard to really assess (and that's totally fine) but this pic seems totally natural and candid. I think you look great and I really don't see a man even though I'm looking for one. Your progress has been very rewarding to watch and gives me hope.
Thanks.
I did this on purpose to see how I look under normal conditions. This is more or less how I am every day, except at work I would throw something over it. However these days I've been saying to heck with it and just going like that. I am wondering how long before people notice or say something about my gender presentation.
One guy did ask questions like "what is up with your hairstyle dood" or "you look really different, what's up?" but nothing pertaining to gender. Maybe their memory of me is such that they don't see the new me yet. I'm going to ratchet it up a few notches as the date draws ever closer.
I can't be fired for gender identity or expression and HR and my boss know. Besides we have a gay guy with tattoos and wears tight shirts and a woman who dresses like a boy. So I think I will be fine. :)
Just beautiful ;)
Quote from: iKate on June 05, 2015, 08:07:25 PM
At work, tired, no makeup. No photoshop. Taken with a galaxy s5. We had some electrical maintenance so I was up late.
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I'm kind of prepping for full time at work making gradual changes.
My colleagues seem to only notice my hair... Or so they say. One guy offered me a pair of scissors.
Quote from: iKate on June 05, 2015, 09:39:35 PM
Maybe their memory of me is such that they don't see the new me yet.
Exactly that, I think. People who know you in boy mode aren't going to "re-gender" you without realizing they have a reason to do so. But those same people, if they just met you for the first time, probably wouldn't be calling you a "dood", you know?
I think that's the main thing I'm going to have to get over, as well. Just accepting that my long-time friends will always remember me for how I was even if I get totally passable and hot (a girl can dream, right?) I'm going to need to not be offended by that as it's not really fair to expect anything different.
Maybe that's just part of the territory that nobody warns us about.
Quote from: Abysha on June 05, 2015, 09:50:32 PM
Exactly that, I think. People who know you in boy mode aren't going to "re-gender" you without realizing they have a reason to do so. But those same people, if they just met you for the first time, probably wouldn't be calling you a "dood", you know?
I think that's the main thing I'm going to have to get over, as well. Just accepting that my long-time friends will always remember me for how I was even if I get totally passable and hot (a girl can dream, right?) I'm going to need to not be offended by that as it's not really fair to expect anything different.
Maybe that's just part of the territory that nobody warns us about.
That I've found to be true.
I attended a training class all week and presented female. I was treated as a female. I had not met these people before.
Quote from: iKate on June 05, 2015, 08:07:25 PM
At work, tired, no makeup. No photoshop. Taken with a galaxy s5. We had some electrical maintenance so I was up late.
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I'm kind of prepping for full time at work making gradual changes.
My colleagues seem to only notice my hair... Or so they say. One guy offered me a pair of scissors.
Hi kate it's very andro looking now. It's hard to see a boy, but your without makeup and female attire so it's questionable. Once you go full time and really go for a fem look you will be fine.
Oh and speaking of clueless coworkers I'm now presenting really feminine at work even though I haven't come out to my entire department. Only my bosses, close friends and HR. But nobody has asked me anything except one woman who said my new style was nice. I mean I'm not wearing unisex stuff either it's like blatantly obvious I'm dressing and presenting like a woman now. I just haven't had the confidence to wear any shoes that show off my feet yet. I'm sure a lot of people have realized but no one has the audacity to say anything to me. Which is kind of amusing.
If you are ready just go for it. Even though I'm not super passable right now I sort of don't care because I know everyone at work is gonna know my business anyways. Whether I'm passing or not.
Good luck you will look great!
Quote from: michelle82 on June 05, 2015, 10:33:04 PM
Hi kate it's very andro looking now. It's hard to see a boy, but your without makeup and female attire so it's questionable. Once you go full time and really go for a fem look you will be fine.
Oh and speaking of clueless coworkers I'm now presenting really feminine at work even though I haven't come out to my entire department. Only my bosses, close friends and HR. But nobody has asked me anything except one woman who said my new style was nice. I mean I'm not wearing unisex stuff either it's like blatantly obvious I'm dressing and presenting like a woman now. I just haven't had the confidence to wear any shoes that show off my feet yet. I'm sure a lot of people have realized but no one has the audacity to say anything to me. Which is kind of amusing.
If you are ready just go for it. Even though I'm not super passable right now I sort of don't care because I know everyone at work is gonna know my business anyways. Whether I'm passing or not.
Good luck you will look great!
The shirt is actually a women's shirt, but yes it is an androgynous look. Remember this is the intermediate step not the final product.
Quote from: Jessica Jaclyn Reimer on June 04, 2015, 01:16:10 AM
My recent look - since going full time May 2nd. Passable?
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This is still my old wig - getting my hair system this Saturday. YAY!!!!
The headshot I'm wearing frost blue eyeliner with bright green eyeshadow - you can't see it very well, but it looked awesome. lol.
- Jess
I think you'll do well, and pass.
The shadow could work against you, as it does to me. Can't wait until I finish lasering it all off.
Quote from: Jessica Jaclyn Reimer on June 04, 2015, 01:16:10 AM
My recent look - since going full time May 2nd. Passable?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8872/18416751482_70f3752185_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/u4qEzY)
This is still my old wig - getting my hair system this Saturday. YAY!!!!
The headshot I'm wearing frost blue eyeliner with bright green eyeshadow - you can't see it very well, but it looked awesome. lol.
- Jess
Your smile looks very feminine, but you may need to remove the beard shadow to pass well. First, you may pluck the beard hairs by very sharp tweezers once or twice per week, and later by laser. I removed most of my hairs in the beard area by Tria home laser.
barbie~~
Here is my base look. No make up at all, just got done washing everything off so this is as natural as I can now be.
Just saw a press release and found out the Dr. who did my nose correction and trach shave is the same Dr. who did the FFS surgery on Caitlyn Jenner.
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Quote from: iKate on June 05, 2015, 08:07:25 PM
At work, tired, no makeup. No photoshop. Taken with a galaxy s5. We had some electrical maintenance so I was up late.
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I'm kind of prepping for full time at work making gradual changes.
My colleagues seem to only notice my hair... Or so they say. One guy offered me a pair of scissors.
OMG we have so many facial features in common!! And if that's your tired look you must look great! And I love your hair - it's the perfect cut for straight hair of this length!!
One thing though - the eyebrows. It seems you pluck in between. I had the same face, and I did the same thing. I had like an unibrow so maybe I went a bit over the top ;)
If you do pluck inbetween, you may want to consider leave just a bit less space.
Am I getting close yet?
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Quote from: charlotte15 on June 07, 2015, 07:14:09 PM
OMG we have so many facial features in common!! And if that's your tired look you must look great! And I love your hair - it's the perfect cut for straight hair of this length!!
One thing though - the eyebrows. It seems you pluck in between. I had the same face, and I did the same thing. I had like an unibrow so maybe I went a bit over the top ;)
If you do pluck inbetween, you may want to consider leave just a bit less space.
Noted and I agree. I had them thinner and they looked better however they have suffered neglect. I had a really terrible unibrow too.
Quote from: JessicaH on June 07, 2015, 07:33:45 PM
Am I getting close yet?
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Close to what? You pass already.
How close am I now then?
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Quote from: carmenkate on May 03, 2015, 12:11:28 AM
Hello Gorgeous People,
I'm posting a recent pic of mine with and without makeup, I hope I don't scare anyone :)
With makeup:
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No makeup:
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You look great!! So feminine looking and such a warm and friendly face. How do you feel on the HRT does it make you feel dizzy, emotional etc??
Is great to see these photos and posts been so busy with my studies these last months had barely time to check in here!
:) :D
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I just get called sir all day. off to consult with a plastic surgeon to get this remedied.
Hi Joanne Feliz,
Thank you - you are kind :) yes it does make me feel dizzy and emotional at times.
Lately, I've been experiencing morning sickness - my boss told me I might be pregnant :D
Hugs,
April
Quote from: Joanne Feliz on June 08, 2015, 08:50:25 AM
You look great!! So feminine looking and such a warm and friendly face. How do you feel on the HRT does it make you feel dizzy, emotional etc??
Is great to see these photos and posts been so busy with my studies these last months had barely time to check in here!
:) :D
Hi Beauty,
Have you considered hair bangs? I think that will suit your pretty face :)
April
Quote from: HeatherR on June 08, 2015, 03:36:13 PM
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I just get called sir all day. off to consult with a plastic surgeon to get this remedied.
Quote from: HeatherR on June 08, 2015, 03:36:13 PM
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I just get called sir all day. off to consult with a plastic surgeon to get this remedied.
I can't believe you get sirred. [emoji53] I think you look great.
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Quote from: HeatherR on June 08, 2015, 03:36:13 PM
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I just get called sir all day. off to consult with a plastic surgeon to get this remedied.
By blind people??? Or was it your voice or something else?
adorable yenny. makes me a little jealous actually. sry, was a little busy and just now saw this
Sorry, but in my opinion, you do not pass yet, just give the hormones time to work, you've only been on them for 1 month.
Quote from: kittenpower on June 09, 2015, 06:31:12 PM
Sorry, but in my opinion, you do not pass yet, just give the hormones time to work, you've only been on them for 1 month.
Do I have potenial
I do think that you have potential, because your face has some good feminine qualities :)
Some pictures I took in my room at uni today:
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I'm 19, 5'10" and in the closet. I've not started any part of transitioning and this is the first time I've even worn a (albeit cheap) wig!! The top is just a cheap flimsy thing and the jeans are just my guy skinny jeans. No bra here so no breasts :( Very, very little makeup (just some mascara and lipstick)
I know I won't pass but that's not my immediate problem right now. Do I have any potential?? My biggest concern is my nose (see side view) which is quite... erm... prominent ;)
xx
I think you pass and you where your wig well. I think that one suites you. Your nose doesn't really look any worse than mine. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: Sophie Hannah Alexis on June 11, 2015, 05:14:50 PM
Some pictures I took in my room at uni today:
I'm 19, 5'10" and in the closet. I've not started any part of transitioning and this is the first time I've even worn a (albeit cheap) wig!! The top is just a cheap flimsy thing and the jeans are just my guy skinny jeans. No bra here so no breasts :( Very, very little makeup (just some mascara and lipstick)
I know I won't pass but that's not my immediate problem right now. Do I have any potential?? My biggest concern is my nose (see side view) which is quite... erm... prominent ;)
xx
you'll do fine. I seriously doubt anyone would question right now if you took a stroll to grocery store.
Quote from: Mariah2014 on June 11, 2015, 05:28:18 PM
I think you pass and you where your wig well. I think that one suites you. Your nose doesn't really look any worse than mine. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: stephaniec on June 11, 2015, 05:42:49 PM
you'll do fine. I seriously doubt anyone would question right now if you took a stroll to grocery store.
Really!? Wow!! Thank you girls, you've made my day!! :D Hugs!!<3xx
I'm not gonna ask anyone anymore
I don't think there is a lot of honest answers here. The best way is to ask non trans people who can see you and hear you. I can pass in some pictures as well but I do not pass in real life.
Quote from: Sophie Hannah Alexis on June 11, 2015, 05:14:50 PM
Some pictures I took in my room at uni today:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi375.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo195%2FSophieHannahAlexis%2FFirst%2520Steps%2FIMG_0069_zpsyqtvnhqw.jpg&hash=0c8894f944f069493a93b496b57e7e0dc603264e)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi375.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo195%2FSophieHannahAlexis%2FFirst%2520Steps%2FIMG_0073_zpshrdo7p0u.jpg&hash=e301786174b86059c7e76ac9f257d111a0de3588)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi375.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo195%2FSophieHannahAlexis%2FFirst%2520Steps%2FIMG_0072_zpsscdrkeyh.jpg&hash=c70842de7f641766d9a65be3d771c8c43a64f651)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi375.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo195%2FSophieHannahAlexis%2FFirst%2520Steps%2FIMG_0048_zpslz9bp2jo.jpg&hash=28f982ec2f87bd2f5cdafadcf3b6660b01b1e6c6)
I'm 19, 5'10" and in the closet. I've not started any part of transitioning and this is the first time I've even worn a (albeit cheap) wig!! The top is just a cheap flimsy thing and the jeans are just my guy skinny jeans. No bra here so no breasts :( Very, very little makeup (just some mascara and lipstick)
I know I won't pass but that's not my immediate problem right now. Do I have any potential?? My biggest concern is my nose (see side view) which is quite... erm... prominent ;)
xx
I see definite potential for sure (and I am being totally honest here) In the profile, yes...I think we both have some "nose" needs as you can see here :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1192.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faa332%2FChromedome62%2FMarlyNose.jpg&hash=9efcb4f09d1baf2875131a9f3a59847c127e5f77)
Quote from: Monika1223 on June 11, 2015, 06:19:44 PM
I don't think there is a lot of honest answers here.
That's true... but people also have very different view on what "passing" means. I know most people have a hard time during starting awkward phases (which is to be expected...) and sometimes question themselves if they will ever be able to truly pass... But I can't and never will try to sugarcoat anyone, because that wouldn't be fair and wouldn't be honest to the person asking. What I can say is, everybody has potential, and everybody can become truly "passable"... if this is what they want, and are willing to make the steps and changes that they need.
Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on June 07, 2015, 08:14:52 PM
How close am I now then?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1250.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh527%2FStrickalator%2FSunshine%2F2015-06-07%252014.26.12_zpsflqhgzvv.jpg&hash=e1c7d4ede06afc77b229b072cd2ac9adf3324c78)
Shawn you've made some quick progress, you always where soft and I had a feeling you would be able to pass. Isn't almost time for fabulous? ;)
Quote from: mmmmm on June 11, 2015, 07:01:13 PM
That's true... but people also have very different view on what "passing" means. I know most people have a hard time during starting awkward phases (which is to be expected...) and sometimes question themselves if they will ever be able to truly pass... But I can't and never will try to sugarcoat anyone, because that wouldn't be fair and wouldn't be honest to the person asking. What I can say is, everybody has potential, and everybody can become truly "passable"... if this is what they want, and are willing to make the steps and changes that they need.
I agree that most do have great potential :)
Honestly looking at these I get the urge to do a makeover, potential is one thing you are not lacking!
If you ever do decide to go down the road of having any work done the nose is the easiest part to change, just saying :D
Quote from: Sophie Hannah Alexis on June 11, 2015, 05:14:50 PM
I'm 19, 5'10" and in the closet. I've not started any part of transitioning and this is the first time I've even worn a (albeit cheap) wig!! The top is just a cheap flimsy thing and the jeans are just my guy skinny jeans. No bra here so no breasts :( Very, very little makeup (just some mascara and lipstick)
I know I won't pass but that's not my immediate problem right now. Do I have any potential?? My biggest concern is my nose (see side view) which is quite... erm... prominent ;)
xx
Quote from: antonia on June 11, 2015, 08:43:33 PM
Honestly looking at these I get the urge to do a makeover, potential is one thing you are not lacking!
If you ever do decide to go down the road of having any work done the nose is the easiest part to change, just saying :D
Awww thank you!! Believe me, if I was anywhere near where you live I would be running straight to you for that makeover you're offering!! ;) You're stunning!! :D xx
Aww thanks!
Although things certainly have changed a fair bit in one year:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/T026x8Y63J9aamcOFmR8xbtKOki4ELLyoXA7LOh34Is=w585-h780-no)
Quote from: Sophie Hannah Alexis on June 11, 2015, 09:02:07 PM
Awww thank you!! Believe me, if I was anywhere near where you live I would be running straight to you for that makeover you're offering!! ;) You're stunning!! :D xx
Quote from: antonia on June 11, 2015, 09:36:29 PM
Aww thanks!
Although things certainly have changed a fair bit in one year:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/T026x8Y63J9aamcOFmR8xbtKOki4ELLyoXA7LOh34Is=w585-h780-no)
... 1 year... Oh my gosh that's incredible!! I honestly cannot express my amazement enough, you go girl!! :D xx
I've posted here before. And I've already fully transitioned and been full-time for well over 2 years. I've been on HRT for well over 2 years going onto 3 now. I've had SRS about a year ago, at which point I switched from a contraceptive pill to an estradiol pill and stopped Spiro all together.
Recently, I've been feeling like things have reached a plataeu and been getting dysphoric (maybe because now that I've had SRS, I have more time to focus on the other little negative things and just general low self esteem), I guess I'm posting here to get a little feedback and possibly put things in perspective and stop obsessing so much.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9aVObbN.jpg&hash=cc7b997d446861e27a7366c1a0836e6eb8503ddc)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fk8kcjmX.jpg&hash=0db129eb3769f47762c9ffc35a2abeaaca5734e3)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDEvmDdu.jpg&hash=7a1006c591cfc482efad58e2b010a227c0402664)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRO687l3.jpg&hash=69a403f3c061f92fb8cdabd2178bccd3cfe28dce)
Few different angles and neutral-ish expressions, different days/lighting, different levels of makeup. Anyway, thanks :)
As far as your face you pass, but I'm not sure the hairstyle is the best for you. It could be why your noticing it more now. Hugs
Mariah
I think you look really good, I can't imagine anyone seeing anything but female and if someone is misgendering you I'd think that it's something other than your looks.
Quote from: Aleah on June 12, 2015, 12:55:33 AM
I've posted here before. And I've already fully transitioned and been full-time for well over 2 years. I've been on HRT for well over 2 years going onto 3 now. I've had SRS about a year ago, at which point I switched from a contraceptive pill to an estradiol pill and stopped Spiro all together.
Recently, I've been feeling like things have reached a plataeu and been getting dysphoric (maybe because now that I've had SRS, I have more time to focus on the other little negative things and just general low self esteem), I guess I'm posting here to get a little feedback and possibly put things in perspective and stop obsessing so much.
Few different angles and neutral-ish expressions, different days/lighting, different levels of makeup. Anyway, thanks :)
Me after crying lol(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1068.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu457%2Fhalonoob1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-06%2F4992D39D-0D65-4ADD-B9F5-B9801C6C1E6A_zpststkqjvm.jpg&hash=4872fbad93be6f3ce80a9fe4e3b432b8aea78dfa) (http://s1068.photobucket.com/user/halonoob1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/4992D39D-0D65-4ADD-B9F5-B9801C6C1E6A_zpststkqjvm.jpg.html)
Quote from: Yenneffer on June 12, 2015, 05:01:28 AM
Me after crying lol(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1068.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu457%2Fhalonoob1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-06%2F4992D39D-0D65-4ADD-B9F5-B9801C6C1E6A_zpststkqjvm.jpg&hash=4872fbad93be6f3ce80a9fe4e3b432b8aea78dfa) (http://s1068.photobucket.com/user/halonoob1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/4992D39D-0D65-4ADD-B9F5-B9801C6C1E6A_zpststkqjvm.jpg.html)
After tears glow..precious...aww...hugs
I get that glow sometimes too
Hehe hugs
You are really hot!!!! If any guy or girl can not see that then they are not worth your time. I would ask you on a date in a heart beat.
Quote from: Aleah on June 12, 2015, 12:55:33 AM
I've posted here before. And I've already fully transitioned and been full-time for well over 2 years. I've been on HRT for well over 2 years going onto 3 now. I've had SRS about a year ago, at which point I switched from a contraceptive pill to an estradiol pill and stopped Spiro all together.
Recently, I've been feeling like things have reached a plataeu and been getting dysphoric (maybe because now that I've had SRS, I have more time to focus on the other little negative things and just general low self esteem), I guess I'm posting here to get a little feedback and possibly put things in perspective and stop obsessing so much.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9aVObbN.jpg&hash=cc7b997d446861e27a7366c1a0836e6eb8503ddc)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fk8kcjmX.jpg&hash=0db129eb3769f47762c9ffc35a2abeaaca5734e3)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDEvmDdu.jpg&hash=7a1006c591cfc482efad58e2b010a227c0402664)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRO687l3.jpg&hash=69a403f3c061f92fb8cdabd2178bccd3cfe28dce)
Few different angles and neutral-ish expressions, different days/lighting, different levels of makeup. Anyway, thanks :)
From the last pictures in this group, to me you can easily pass.
I hope I am passing somewhat. Starting Monday I am Jessie 24/7. Here is my new work ID photo.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F6322824e-181f-4f3c-8224-c0ca82a03c13_zpszja2t9ji.jpg&hash=a40aa983fff3baf0d25167eece36893f2c0f56c4) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/6322824e-181f-4f3c-8224-c0ca82a03c13_zpszja2t9ji.jpg.html)
Here are a couple of other pictures from the last couple of weeks.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage.jpg3_zps6xollnxr.jpg&hash=0cb146fe0738a43f5a16b8b1eb24c4ddbfc7b019) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image.jpg3_zps6xollnxr.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2Fimage.jpg1_zpshtzfhe1c.jpg&hash=1631ea78aa2c8e4a25861618a9dc92be6534acab) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/image.jpg1_zpshtzfhe1c.jpg.html)
I think you look great Aleah! A smile would make you even more beautiful.
Quote from: Aleah on June 12, 2015, 12:55:33 AM
I've posted here before. And I've already fully transitioned and been full-time for well over 2 years. I've been on HRT for well over 2 years going onto 3 now. I've had SRS about a year ago, at which point I switched from a contraceptive pill to an estradiol pill and stopped Spiro all together.
Recently, I've been feeling like things have reached a plataeu and been getting dysphoric (maybe because now that I've had SRS, I have more time to focus on the other little negative things and just general low self esteem), I guess I'm posting here to get a little feedback and possibly put things in perspective and stop obsessing so much.
Few different angles and neutral-ish expressions, different days/lighting, different levels of makeup. Anyway, thanks :)
Wow!!!!! You have changed so much and you can see how much happier you are. Keep rocking it girl.
Quote from: antonia on June 11, 2015, 09:36:29 PM
Aww thanks!
Although things certainly have changed a fair bit in one year:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/T026x8Y63J9aamcOFmR8xbtKOki4ELLyoXA7LOh34Is=w585-h780-no)
Quote from: Aleah on June 12, 2015, 12:55:33 AM
I've posted here before. And I've already fully transitioned and been full-time for well over 2 years. I've been on HRT for well over 2 years going onto 3 now. I've had SRS about a year ago, at which point I switched from a contraceptive pill to an estradiol pill and stopped Spiro all together.
Recently, I've been feeling like things have reached a plataeu and been getting dysphoric (maybe because now that I've had SRS, I have more time to focus on the other little negative things and just general low self esteem), I guess I'm posting here to get a little feedback and possibly put things in perspective and stop obsessing so much.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9aVObbN.jpg&hash=cc7b997d446861e27a7366c1a0836e6eb8503ddc)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fk8kcjmX.jpg&hash=0db129eb3769f47762c9ffc35a2abeaaca5734e3)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDEvmDdu.jpg&hash=7a1006c591cfc482efad58e2b010a227c0402664)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRO687l3.jpg&hash=69a403f3c061f92fb8cdabd2178bccd3cfe28dce)
Few different angles and neutral-ish expressions, different days/lighting, different levels of makeup. Anyway, thanks :)
The patterns of your clothes are very pretty, and match well with you.
barbie~~
Total female.
And lovely!
Jessie Ann - your pic shows your genuineness, love and happiness that makes you the most beautiful girl in the world.
Hugs,
April
Quote from: Jessie Ann on June 12, 2015, 11:12:33 PM
I hope I am passing somewhat. Starting Monday I am Jessie 24/7. Here is my new work ID photo.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F6322824e-181f-4f3c-8224-c0ca82a03c13_zpszja2t9ji.jpg&hash=a40aa983fff3baf0d25167eece36893f2c0f56c4) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/6322824e-181f-4f3c-8224-c0ca82a03c13_zpszja2t9ji.jpg.html)
Here are a couple of other pictures from the last couple of weeks.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage.jpg3_zps6xollnxr.jpg&hash=0cb146fe0738a43f5a16b8b1eb24c4ddbfc7b019) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image.jpg3_zps6xollnxr.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2Fimage.jpg1_zpshtzfhe1c.jpg&hash=1631ea78aa2c8e4a25861618a9dc92be6534acab) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/image.jpg1_zpshtzfhe1c.jpg.html)
Congratulations on going full-time, Jessie Ann; you look pretty and feminine, and I especially like your new avatar picture. :)
Thanks ladies. You really know how to make a girl feel good.
Quote from: JessicaH on June 07, 2015, 07:33:45 PM
Am I getting close yet?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1226.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee413%2FStacyBeaumont%2Fother%2FIMG_1529_zpsvscdbokm.jpg&hash=f114159d2d5a0a84cc55f3b7cbd2e4583f762b49)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1226.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee413%2FStacyBeaumont%2Fother%2FIMG_1526_zpsuahptfs1.jpg&hash=8e6f1756756047064d34129bdc854ecf5977f67d)
Around the eyes, you look like my mother when she was younger (she was very pretty), and I most say, you look very cis-gender, I would deff think you were a cis-woman if I met you irl. The kind of femininity that you display (atleast in the pictures) is very cis-gender so you are DEFINITELY passable judging by ur pictures! Way to go hun!
(not saying we have to pass after a cis-gender norm, just saying that you pass so well one could think you were cis-gender!)
Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on June 07, 2015, 08:14:52 PM
How close am I now then?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1250.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh527%2FStrickalator%2FSunshine%2F2015-06-07%252014.26.12_zpsflqhgzvv.jpg&hash=e1c7d4ede06afc77b229b072cd2ac9adf3324c78)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1250.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh527%2FStrickalator%2FSunshine%2F20150607_133657_zpsyy931dm8.jpg&hash=e472d92205707b8e24c3a57feae5414045641345)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1250.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh527%2FStrickalator%2FSunshine%2F20150607_133627_zpstrykv43g.jpg&hash=f062b91c557302690534d3ba46239e11adfdd7cd)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1250.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh527%2FStrickalator%2FSunshine%2F20150607_133619_zpsu9diabvo.jpg&hash=2dd554129a2bba7aff5a67186ae02fda180948aa)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1250.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh527%2FStrickalator%2FSunshine%2F20150607_133603_zpsifcn1eey.jpg&hash=7dc6228cb581d62f59b6d33e822ce063dc6318c7)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1250.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh527%2FStrickalator%2FSunshine%2F20150607_133546_zpsaursekeq.jpg&hash=428191d126d0426352401833d06ece9db540300f)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1250.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh527%2FStrickalator%2FSunshine%2F2015-06-07%252014.24.33_zpsoihcwmkb.jpg&hash=97b7e2f32e4cb0d70bfd00178af36ed01c73425f)
You deff pass, your face proportions are great and the hights of your cheeks when smiling are very pretty and feminine! I'm very jealous!
Thanks Rebecka! Well when I don't dress up I still get called sir,a lot..took some work to look good with makeup. But I have high cheekBones then? Really? If so cool.
Hehe me last night(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1068.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu457%2Fhalonoob1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-06%2F727461EA-4FB6-4098-BD34-897B1731327A_zpsaujsli86.jpg&hash=d483d38ca83e3de3ed028094b5aa9e46df86d73b) (http://s1068.photobucket.com/user/halonoob1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/727461EA-4FB6-4098-BD34-897B1731327A_zpsaujsli86.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1068.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu457%2Fhalonoob1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-06%2F014B9A7D-2F78-4A70-A175-961240379395_zpscwp2yyod.jpg&hash=70db6bcaa0e9606e55a00aa24cf06fd91c834ded) (http://s1068.photobucket.com/user/halonoob1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/014B9A7D-2F78-4A70-A175-961240379395_zpscwp2yyod.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1068.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu457%2Fhalonoob1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-06%2F0652CB86-5682-4AFA-A690-CE3CC883F470_zpsgnw35elx.jpg&hash=f1b83587c3e3eafcff9f135a4dab8b81d807a33f) (http://s1068.photobucket.com/user/halonoob1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/0652CB86-5682-4AFA-A690-CE3CC883F470_zpsgnw35elx.jpg.html)
7 months progress just woke up edition.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLAy5pS7.jpg&hash=88972bd59c6cda93fb49b3f432042be5e810d378)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWzztCYQ.jpg&hash=2f5a5b82bf4318635cd8071da092bab5187c5ec9)
I feel like I'm getting there, slowly but still getting there, changes in my face are still happening, slowly but surely.
Quote from: Samantha6string on June 15, 2015, 06:32:37 PM
7 months progress just woke up edition.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLAy5pS7.jpg&hash=88972bd59c6cda93fb49b3f432042be5e810d378)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWzztCYQ.jpg&hash=2f5a5b82bf4318635cd8071da092bab5187c5ec9)
I feel like I'm getting there, slowly but still getting there, changes in my face are still happening, slowly but surely.
much more girly, you have that glow, plus your skin is like butter.
So I have lost 20kgs in the last two months, remove the hair on the sides of my face and on my neck. I have not done the "goatee" area at all. I am not on hormones or anything yet so this is just me with makeup/wig.
I know I am not going to pass easily right now as I took three photos and this was the best one. No point in lying heh. The other two made my neck fat (still dropping weight) and showed the beard shadow really bad. I did a full body photo but I can not even look at it as it makes me vomit as I look like a man in women's clothing, so that can wait for a few more months until I feel ready.
Anyway please give advice.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.postimg.org%2F4827o66u3%2Fattemp1.png&hash=a5364d8e53f15ef15101d350bd65bdf77a6ec9f5)
Quote from: Sarah leah on June 19, 2015, 12:24:29 AM
So I have lost 20kgs in the last two months, remove the hair on the sides of my face and on my neck. I have not done the "goatee" area at all. I am not on hormones or anything yet so this is just me with makeup/wig.
I know I am not going to pass easily right now as I took three photos and this was the best one. No point in lying heh. The other two made my neck fat (still dropping weight) and showed the beard shadow really bad. I did a full body photo but I can not even look at it as it makes me vomit as I look like a man in women's clothing, so that can wait for a few more months until I feel ready.
Anyway please give advice.
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Honestly this is a really good photo. I can kinda see your shadow but I have to.look really close. That is something that u can take care of with lasers and electrolysis.
My best advice is to relax and stop being so hard on yourself. I know it's easier said then done, but it is a very important part of many of our journeys (mine included) to learn self love. Also you have a great base to work with pre hrt.
Sarah, your fave and hair are terrific! If the rest of you matches, I can't see that you'll have any problems.
Cindi
Quote from: Sarah leah on June 19, 2015, 12:24:29 AM
So I have lost 20kgs in the last two months, remove the hair on the sides of my face and on my neck. I have not done the "goatee" area at all. I am not on hormones or anything yet so this is just me with makeup/wig.
I know I am not going to pass easily right now as I took three photos and this was the best one. No point in lying heh. The other two made my neck fat (still dropping weight) and showed the beard shadow really bad. I did a full body photo but I can not even look at it as it makes me vomit as I look like a man in women's clothing, so that can wait for a few more months until I feel ready.
Anyway please give advice.
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Oh. You look very natural. I like that photo.
You may love your own body soon, as you loose weight.
I love my own body, although I do not have big boobs.
Yes. Like you, I have been also without HRT.
Love yourself!
barbie~~
Took this at laundromat this morning.
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Very pretty. You pass.
Mariah
Quote from: Rachael on June 23, 2015, 08:14:42 PM
Took this at laundromat this morning.
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I agree with Mariah; you look great :)
Quote from: Sarah leah on June 19, 2015, 12:24:29 AM
So I have lost 20kgs in the last two months, remove the hair on the sides of my face and on my neck. I have not done the "goatee" area at all. I am not on hormones or anything yet so this is just me with makeup/wig.
I know I am not going to pass easily right now as I took three photos and this was the best one. No point in lying heh. The other two made my neck fat (still dropping weight) and showed the beard shadow really bad. I did a full body photo but I can not even look at it as it makes me vomit as I look like a man in women's clothing, so that can wait for a few more months until I feel ready.
Anyway please give advice.
Hi Sarah,
I'm in the same boat, (cept my reddish hair makes any beard not much of a problem) But I am pre-everything too, bald..so I will always rely on a wig or turban) and really don't know how I will look (perhaps my avatar pic tells the tale)
But I can tell you will definitely be passable :)
I woke up and had the house to myself this morning so I dug out some of my sister's old clothes and tried some very basic makeup! :) xx
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi375.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo195%2FSophieHannahAlexis%2FFirst%2520Steps%2F0910282A-F769-4029-8626-04576BC46B14_zps42pkxqnf.jpg&hash=595dd84975b9f9265cfc039e8c204dc5abb754b7)
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Still not out of the closet, really feeling the urge to come out to somebody soon!! :) xx
Sophie, You look good. Hugs.
Mariah
Quote from: Sophie Hannah Alexis on June 24, 2015, 07:34:00 PM
I woke up and had the house to myself this morning so I dug out some of my sister's old clothes and tried some very basic makeup! :) xx
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Still not out of the closet, really feeling the urge to come out to somebody soon!! :) xx
I think you have beautiful eyes
Quote from: Mariah2014 on June 24, 2015, 07:37:50 PM
Sophie, You look good. Hugs.
Mariah
Thank you Mariah!! :) xx
Quote from: amber roskamp on June 24, 2015, 07:55:35 PM
I think you have beautiful eyes
Awwwww, thank you so much Amber!! :D if anyone is beautiful though it's definitely you!! :) xxx
dressed up for a friends birthday a couple of weeks back. I start HRT end of July so excited cant wait for the next stage in my transition. Still working on my makeup skills
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi296.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm168%2Fkhansell1987%2FDSC_0131_zpsxuh2jrxd.jpg&hash=5293c35fcc96b6ceb2fb41486fb21bc6ceb8b12e) (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/khansell1987/media/DSC_0131_zpsxuh2jrxd.jpg.html)
and a few other random photos...prior to starting transition I would never have photos taken let alone share them.
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You're pretty :)
Quote from: Sophie Hannah Alexis on June 24, 2015, 07:34:00 PM
I woke up and had the house to myself this morning so I dug out some of my sister's old clothes and tried some very basic makeup! :) xx
Still not out of the closet, really feeling the urge to come out to somebody soon!! :) xx
You look cute.
barbie~~
Quote from: kao on June 24, 2015, 11:03:03 PM
dressed up for a friends birthday a couple of weeks back. I start HRT end of July so excited cant wait for the next stage in my transition. Still working on my makeup skills
Eye makeup is probably the most critical. How about wearing red or pink lipstick?
barbie~~
Quote from: Rachael on June 23, 2015, 08:14:42 PM
Took this at laundromat this morning.
You seem to have very nice hair.
barbie~~
I don't honestly care if I do or don't. I just wanted to post this picture!
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Went a bit snap crazy tonight.
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Quote from: Sophie Hannah Alexis on June 24, 2015, 07:34:00 PM
I woke up and had the house to myself this morning so I dug out some of my sister's old clothes and tried some very basic makeup! :) xx
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Still not out of the closet, really feeling the urge to come out to somebody soon!! :) xx
looking great 😊😊😊
Quote from: Yenneffer on June 25, 2015, 05:01:18 PM
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You look great,you have soft romantic expression especially the second photo..very feminine.
Quote from: barbie on June 25, 2015, 02:54:01 AM
You look cute.
barbie~~
Thank you barbie!! :D xx
Quote from: Yenneffer on June 25, 2015, 05:05:00 PM
looking great
Aww thank you Yenneffer!! :D I think you look really pretty in your photos, particularly jealous of your hair and the all round softness of your face!! :) xx
Quote from: Andre87 on June 25, 2015, 05:57:09 PM
You look great,you have soft romantic expression especially the second photo..very feminine.
Thanks 😊 by the way you look handsome
Do you think I still look male?(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1068.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu457%2Fhalonoob1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-06%2FEA7D01B8-E8B4-4A3E-A36A-B8CE80F5FD97_zpsdzjcvcjt.jpg&hash=84bc0885b16a5ea837dd96a50cb8a93fc5904890) (http://s1068.photobucket.com/user/halonoob1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/EA7D01B8-E8B4-4A3E-A36A-B8CE80F5FD97_zpsdzjcvcjt.jpg.html)
Quote from: Yenneffer on June 29, 2015, 03:00:11 AM
Do you think I still look male?(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1068.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu457%2Fhalonoob1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-06%2FEA7D01B8-E8B4-4A3E-A36A-B8CE80F5FD97_zpsdzjcvcjt.jpg&hash=84bc0885b16a5ea837dd96a50cb8a93fc5904890) (http://s1068.photobucket.com/user/halonoob1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/EA7D01B8-E8B4-4A3E-A36A-B8CE80F5FD97_zpsdzjcvcjt.jpg.html)
You look more and more feminine every time I see you. You're biggest asset? That smile. [emoji4]
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Yes, you have a very cute smile and you don't look male at all to me.
A very happy female I would say. Beautiful picture. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: Yenneffer on June 29, 2015, 03:00:11 AM
Do you think I still look male?(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1068.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu457%2Fhalonoob1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-06%2FEA7D01B8-E8B4-4A3E-A36A-B8CE80F5FD97_zpsdzjcvcjt.jpg&hash=84bc0885b16a5ea837dd96a50cb8a93fc5904890) (http://s1068.photobucket.com/user/halonoob1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/EA7D01B8-E8B4-4A3E-A36A-B8CE80F5FD97_zpsdzjcvcjt.jpg.html)
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Hope this works...
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Dangit cant upload photos...love you my dears... I admire you all xxx
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You will be able to soon. You just need 15 posts. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: armanddelange12 on June 29, 2015, 02:57:24 PM
Dangit cant upload photos...love you my dears... I admire you all xxx
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Quote from: Yenneffer on June 29, 2015, 03:00:11 AM
Do you think I still look male?(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1068.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu457%2Fhalonoob1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-06%2FEA7D01B8-E8B4-4A3E-A36A-B8CE80F5FD97_zpsdzjcvcjt.jpg&hash=84bc0885b16a5ea837dd96a50cb8a93fc5904890) (http://s1068.photobucket.com/user/halonoob1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/EA7D01B8-E8B4-4A3E-A36A-B8CE80F5FD97_zpsdzjcvcjt.jpg.html)
I think you look very feminine!! :) xx
Thank you Mariah2014
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I'm happy today makes a change I guess (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1068.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu457%2Fhalonoob1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-06%2F15D10844-3F0A-4E46-955C-4B5676CAAB20_zpsqlqdm7nh.jpg&hash=ef99d43cb786efee971e428c63bd615999643766) (http://s1068.photobucket.com/user/halonoob1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/15D10844-3F0A-4E46-955C-4B5676CAAB20_zpsqlqdm7nh.jpg.html)
I've seen your pics in the past and this is by far the best babe. You're just radiant and happy that shows what true beauty is. Stay being beautiful :)
Quote from: Yenneffer on June 30, 2015, 04:55:05 PM
I'm happy today makes a change I guess (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1068.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu457%2Fhalonoob1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-06%2F15D10844-3F0A-4E46-955C-4B5676CAAB20_zpsqlqdm7nh.jpg&hash=ef99d43cb786efee971e428c63bd615999643766) (http://s1068.photobucket.com/user/halonoob1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/15D10844-3F0A-4E46-955C-4B5676CAAB20_zpsqlqdm7nh.jpg.html)
April, I just wanted to say with every pic I'm getting more and more jealous of you :P
Quote from: Yenneffer on June 30, 2015, 04:55:05 PM
I'm happy today makes a change I guess
Yes. You seem to become prettier and prettier everyday.
barbie~~
Quote from: barbie on July 01, 2015, 08:35:51 AM
Yes. You seem to become prettier and prettier everyday.
barbie~~
You look beautiful For not being on hrt
I have changed my look slightly. I am seeing if it works for me.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIkZNxWUwAERDZ9.jpg)
Quote from: April Lee on July 01, 2015, 02:46:29 PM
I have changed my look slightly. I am seeing if it works for me.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIkZNxWUwAERDZ9.jpg)
You look very nice so happy and pretty 😊😊😊
Looking Good April Lee! No hat and it looks like a little more neutral coloring and you've let your eyebrows fill in a little more. Anything else? Just do what make you feel pretty and special.
Quote from: April Lee on July 01, 2015, 02:46:29 PM
I have changed my look slightly. I am seeing if it works for me.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIkZNxWUwAERDZ9.jpg)
April, you look beautiful.
Mariah
Quote from: April Lee on July 01, 2015, 02:46:29 PM
I have changed my look slightly. I am seeing if it works for me.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIkZNxWUwAERDZ9.jpg)
What about me? Any chance?? :)
(https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a5d923b3127ccee9d1664f75de00000030O00AaMWzRw0ct24Pbz4a/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00707948461420150702193906739.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/)
(https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a5d923b3127ccee9d12eeef46b00000030O00AaMWzRw0ct24Pbz4a/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00707948461420150702193909195.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/)
(https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a5d923b3127ccee9d1bbcab49d00000030O00AaMWzRw0ct24Pbz4a/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00707948461420150702193909225.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/)
Quote from: Yenneffer on June 30, 2015, 04:55:05 PM
I'm happy today makes a change I guess (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1068.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu457%2Fhalonoob1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-06%2F15D10844-3F0A-4E46-955C-4B5676CAAB20_zpsqlqdm7nh.jpg&hash=ef99d43cb786efee971e428c63bd615999643766) (http://s1068.photobucket.com/user/halonoob1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/15D10844-3F0A-4E46-955C-4B5676CAAB20_zpsqlqdm7nh.jpg.html)
You look great to me Yenneffer ^_^
Quote from: Manta on July 02, 2015, 02:46:20 PM
What about me? Any chance?? :)
Absolutely! You are very attractive as is. It's very possible that after several months on hormones and your face softening that people won't even be able to tell.
Quote from: Manta on July 02, 2015, 02:46:20 PM
What about me? Any chance?? :)
(https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a5d923b3127ccee9d1664f75de00000030O00AaMWzRw0ct24Pbz4a/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00707948461420150702193906739.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/)
(https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a5d923b3127ccee9d12eeef46b00000030O00AaMWzRw0ct24Pbz4a/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00707948461420150702193909195.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/)
(https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a5d923b3127ccee9d1bbcab49d00000030O00AaMWzRw0ct24Pbz4a/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00707948461420150702193909225.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/)
Sugarpie, when you're through, I'm going to be bowing to you! You look amazing already!!
You have a very striking look that would work well in the modeling world right now if that's your cup of tea, but like Alida said, after some HRT, you'd be looking even more marvelous.
You're very lucky because with your features, you can go heavier on the goth look, or soften it down like Kristin McMenememy(sp? I can never spell her name ever lol)...but yea I can totes see you rocking a fierce goth look, or a much softer one. Lucky girl!
Aw... a million thanks Alaia and January!! I really really (did I say really? haha) appreciate
Sorry I can't help myself got to show bow blouse 😊(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1068.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu457%2Fhalonoob1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-07%2FC240AF7E-59B4-49E1-9182-B1A4545EC437_zpsjmkvnuxq.jpg&hash=b19a11356256c5686b184c3eb2aa5789047fab79) (http://s1068.photobucket.com/user/halonoob1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-07/C240AF7E-59B4-49E1-9182-B1A4545EC437_zpsjmkvnuxq.jpg.html)
Quote from: Yenneffer on July 03, 2015, 05:41:25 AM
Sorry I can't help myself got to show bow blouse 😊(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1068.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu457%2Fhalonoob1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-07%2FC240AF7E-59B4-49E1-9182-B1A4545EC437_zpsjmkvnuxq.jpg&hash=b19a11356256c5686b184c3eb2aa5789047fab79) (http://s1068.photobucket.com/user/halonoob1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-07/C240AF7E-59B4-49E1-9182-B1A4545EC437_zpsjmkvnuxq.jpg.html)
Loving the bow blouse, you look so beautiful today absolutely stunning.
Yes manta you do 😊
Thanks Yenneffer... so do you!! I'd date you anytime ;)
Just went out shopping, how do i look?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6dv82ID.jpg&hash=148b898b6bd379682ee50078109b78c633129286) (http://imgur.com/6dv82ID)
Quote from: LovelyLuci on July 03, 2015, 09:58:04 PM
Just went out shopping, how do i look?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6dv82ID.jpg&hash=148b898b6bd379682ee50078109b78c633129286) (http://imgur.com/6dv82ID)
You have real potential hugs
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F2e2fr5h.jpg&hash=2f1e909eeacb3ad7f73129216cb4422750e4e694)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Ffo17uw.jpg&hash=a574dd8ab67004d03a936be19ca23936853447c7)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F2zpuzwo.jpg&hash=020bd7cb8a53508710453c4392d0c378a03f3f45)
So these are up Close Pictures of my face. No wig, no make up, no nothing. Just wonder what you guys Think. I'm starting to doubt I will look any good and should transition, even tho I feel like I have too - to be happy.
What you Think about my future? Be extremly honest please.
My hair is growing fast, can't wait until I can go to a real expensive hairdresser and put in extensions. If I decide to transition.
one word...absolutely.
Quote from: SwedenMtf on July 07, 2015, 08:21:17 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F2e2fr5h.jpg&hash=2f1e909eeacb3ad7f73129216cb4422750e4e694)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Ffo17uw.jpg&hash=a574dd8ab67004d03a936be19ca23936853447c7)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F2zpuzwo.jpg&hash=020bd7cb8a53508710453c4392d0c378a03f3f45)
So these are up Close Pictures of my face. No wig, no make up, no nothing. Just wonder what you guys Think. I'm starting to doubt I will look any good and should transition, even tho I feel like I have too - to be happy.
What you Think about my future? Be extremly honest please.
My hair is growing fast, can't wait until I can go to a real expensive hairdresser and put in extensions. If I decide to transition.
OMG, you're totes beautiful!!! You'll be perfect whether you have surgery or not
Thank you, the two of you <3... I also hope HTR will do magic with me.
Quote from: SwedenMtf on July 07, 2015, 10:10:21 PM
Thank you, the two of you <3... I also hope HTR will do magic with me.
Honestly you don't look male at all right now. You could say those photos are post HRT and everybody would believe you.
Thank you so much for ur compliment.. I don't know why I just feel extremly male - specially my face. Ive been 1 week on HRT.
Quote from: SwedenMtf on July 07, 2015, 10:24:55 PM
Thank you so much for ur compliment.. I don't know why I just feel extremly male - specially my face. Ive been 1 week on HRT.
Sometimes is just the habit of seeing ourselves as males and being treated as males. Sometimes we just look at those minimal and subtle features that are out of place and let them play an unjustified major role in the big picture.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Ft9yvs4.jpg&hash=09571033ebf37f1da464d7c26ed58fe9c4c01849)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F4qo705.jpg&hash=ae82831adcee57562e2dc0d0c28fed973f2effb8)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F1pzek7.jpg&hash=34e4ede50107b441df32ebd147b6a75db656a866)
You all look so beautiful! I hope one day i can look just as good as you all do. :)
Hi Sandra, welcome to Susan's. You look beautiful in the photo. I look forward to seeing you around the forums. Good luck and Hugs
Mariah
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Its been quite a while since I've been by .. I'm still devastated losing Kira, we all are .. my friends, please, if you get in a bad place, if you can not fight off your demons any longer alone .. call someone .. if you can not find anyone, call me. seriously .. 'sorry for the PSA, but I -have- to do what I can to keep my brothers and sisters.. the world is a better place with you in it.
ok, as I wrote, I've been gone ... well, quite a while.. things are much better than they had been .. I, myself, am finally in a better place, so, I know the darkness that can take hold and .. .. I've been there, and nearly done that .. but I got help, I talked to my family here .. Jessica Merriman, literally.. no.. not literally.. she -DID- save me, a year and a half ago. I will forever, owe her my life.
Because she did, I have been able to do ... this ...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag262%2FPaulaC1958%2F11150705_1669591303268991_1064671322783084008_n_zpsiqwbywjp.jpg&hash=29b9a598c2e9dc72536fa827c0b2101750f7e438)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag262%2FPaulaC1958%2F20150615_135148_zpssevvldsp.jpg&hash=1f775abd61d8b1c492730bbdabba2f01666a6154)
but, most importantly...
this...
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Paula you have come a long ways. Such beautiful pictures of you. Congrats and Hugs
Mariah
Paula my beloved sister, thank you so much!! I really don't think I did that much though. YOU are the one who risked everything to be who you are. You are much stronger than you think. I am crying over your post. Thank you again so much for your comments. I love you sis! :)
Currently not on HRT, and just wondering my passabilty? I know HRT/ FFS would do wonders, but would like to know specific areas that need to be changed for passability. Also, just for some positive reinforcement, what are some areas I am good on? Thanks for helping me out on this :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi280.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk161%2FAshleyAllison1%2Fa5c2a6b6-1ad7-4c6b-909d-ec9d880caf06_zpstyocykfo.jpg&hash=dc507402af7a79b21a1439ee43b199e352de3c22) (http://s280.photobucket.com/user/AshleyAllison1/media/a5c2a6b6-1ad7-4c6b-909d-ec9d880caf06_zpstyocykfo.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi280.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk161%2FAshleyAllison1%2F8b915019-30b2-432f-bc97-9e693b575b39_zpsdkarehnb.jpg&hash=b6e3fb9c20592f1d33b2bca4a1d0602e6cf7da3d) (http://s280.photobucket.com/user/AshleyAllison1/media/8b915019-30b2-432f-bc97-9e693b575b39_zpsdkarehnb.jpg.html)
I think you look great, especially your figure. With HRT and laser/electrolysis, you're gonna be gorgeous!
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Just got my letter, so no HRT--YET.
I know I don't pass (broad shoulders, veiny hands, deep voice), but I know there are MANY ways to work on those things or down-play them as features.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGOb7Zuc.jpg&hash=af568dd2a47163bc67a6536d0cae557495478922) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtoAY7wF.jpg&hash=df5025a99f24d6912d5f595542c7babfdbfb3ee5) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUgw3HoA.jpg&hash=42f77d197180d773b3abcfb7fed4ca5d968d37e3)
Quote from: smdh on July 11, 2015, 10:12:28 AM
Just got my letter, so no HRT--YET.
I know I don't pass (broad shoulders, veiny hands, deep voice), but I know there are MANY ways to work on those things or down-play them as features.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGOb7Zuc.jpg&hash=af568dd2a47163bc67a6536d0cae557495478922) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtoAY7wF.jpg&hash=df5025a99f24d6912d5f595542c7babfdbfb3ee5) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUgw3HoA.jpg&hash=42f77d197180d773b3abcfb7fed4ca5d968d37e3)
Your so pretty already. I'm looking forward to seeing more from you
Quote from: amber roskamp on July 11, 2015, 04:38:37 PM
Your so pretty already. I'm looking forward to seeing more from you
That means so much, Amber! Especially coming from that gorgeous face :angel:
Quote from: smdh on July 11, 2015, 10:12:28 AM
Just got my letter, so no HRT--YET.
I know I don't pass (broad shoulders, veiny hands, deep voice), but I know there are MANY ways to work on those things or down-play them as features.
Yes. Based on the photos, you seem to pass well. Other things such as gesture and posture are also important in passing, as you know.
barbie~~
Quote from: Ashley Allison on July 11, 2015, 07:35:34 AM
Currently not on HRT, and just wondering my passabilty? I know HRT/ FFS would do wonders, but would like to know specific areas that need to be changed for passability. Also, just for some positive reinforcement, what are some areas I am good on? Thanks for helping me out on this :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi280.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk161%2FAshleyAllison1%2Fa5c2a6b6-1ad7-4c6b-909d-ec9d880caf06_zpstyocykfo.jpg&hash=dc507402af7a79b21a1439ee43b199e352de3c22) (http://s280.photobucket.com/user/AshleyAllison1/media/a5c2a6b6-1ad7-4c6b-909d-ec9d880caf06_zpstyocykfo.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi280.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk161%2FAshleyAllison1%2F8b915019-30b2-432f-bc97-9e693b575b39_zpsdkarehnb.jpg&hash=b6e3fb9c20592f1d33b2bca4a1d0602e6cf7da3d) (http://s280.photobucket.com/user/AshleyAllison1/media/8b915019-30b2-432f-bc97-9e693b575b39_zpsdkarehnb.jpg.html)
You look fine. Have you tried to trim your eye brows?
barbie~~
Quote from: smdh on July 11, 2015, 10:12:28 AM
Just got my letter, so no HRT--YET.
I know I don't pass (broad shoulders, veiny hands, deep voice), but I know there are MANY ways to work on those things or down-play them as features.
You look great. I think you would pass right now based on these photos. HRT should treat you well. [emoji1]
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Quote from: ChiGirl on July 11, 2015, 05:27:10 PM
You look great. I think you would pass right now based on these photos. HRT should treat you well. [emoji1]
Thanks a ton! Your Twitter account is incredible, btw :D
Quote from: smdh on July 11, 2015, 06:06:37 PM
Thanks a ton! Your Twitter account is incredible, btw :D
Thanks. [emoji4] I'll make sure I'm following you, too!
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Quote from: ChiGirl on July 11, 2015, 07:46:24 AM
I think you look great, especially your figure. With HRT and laser/electrolysis, you're gonna be gorgeous!
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Ahhh! Thanks ChiGirl, I appreciate it! I keep on looking in the mirror and wonder what HRT will do to me, and I am happy you think it will have that effect :)
Quote from: barbie on July 11, 2015, 04:59:33 PM
You look fine. Have you tried to trim your eye brows?
barbie~~
And thank you Barbie! I have had very pathetic attempts at shaping my eyebrows, but I am currently afraid to do it all the way as I am not presenting female. When the day comes though, I will likely go get it professionally done. I have observed through photoshopping my eyebrows that it makes a huge difference in my own beauty/ passability, and I believe reduces the prominent appearance of my brow!
Autumn..you look great girl!
I clicked the link immediately thought..hmm that's a girl :)
Girl you are going to be a heart breaker!! I can't wait to see what some time on HRT will do for you.
Quote from: smdh on July 11, 2015, 10:12:28 AM
Just got my letter, so no HRT--YET.
I know I don't pass (broad shoulders, veiny hands, deep voice), but I know there are MANY ways to work on those things or down-play them as features.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGOb7Zuc.jpg&hash=af568dd2a47163bc67a6536d0cae557495478922) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtoAY7wF.jpg&hash=df5025a99f24d6912d5f595542c7babfdbfb3ee5) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUgw3HoA.jpg&hash=42f77d197180d773b3abcfb7fed4ca5d968d37e3)
Autumn I agree with Marlee. You may see a guy looking back at you but thats because your used to seeing yourself that way. I see a cute as a button girl! It takes some prople longer than others to have results from HRT. It aslo depends on dosages and delivery method. Keep it up and you will notice the changes. Some you really feel.....
The first picture looks very good. Hard to see details from that wide of a shot but your overall presentation is good. The second picture is a bit distracting because of the way your wig is on. You need to get it on striaght and have it styled to complement your face. And as Barbie said, getting your eyebrows done will help a lot. Will you be starting HRT anytime soon?
Quote from: Ashley Allison on July 11, 2015, 07:35:34 AM
Currently not on HRT, and just wondering my passabilty? I know HRT/ FFS would do wonders, but would like to know specific areas that need to be changed for passability. Also, just for some positive reinforcement, what are some areas I am good on? Thanks for helping me out on this :)
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Thank you for the kind words Jessie and Marlee. I think you're totally right, because we see ourselves everyday, we only see the faults.
Experimenting
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Quote from: Autumnleaf on July 12, 2015, 01:08:10 AM
Sorry but the picture quality from my phone isn't very good. Anyway, I've only been on HRT for a month so I haven't noticed any changes but when I look in the mirror, all I see is a guy staring back at me and it's so disheartening.
Anyway, I plan on getting FFS in 2 years since that would give me enough time to change careers as my current field is very male dominated.
Yes. As others said, you look totally feminine to my eyes.
barbie~~
Quote from: Jessie Ann on July 12, 2015, 01:52:51 AM
The first picture looks very good. Hard to see details from that wide of a shot but your overall presentation is good. The second picture is a bit distracting because of the way your wig is on. You need to get it on striaght and have it styled to complement your face. And as Barbie said, getting your eyebrows done will help a lot. Will you be starting HRT anytime soon?
Thank you Jessie! Yes, my wig was in a bit of tussle that day, but I actually kind of like that style with natural hair. On the way home from work today, I was looking at my eyebrows and imagining good possibilities if I could find the right way to do it. HRT is in my near future, but unfortunately my current professional life is making me work 80 hour weeks and doesn't have time off (it is graduate school). So despite having good health insurance, I do not have time for the doctor's visits. I can't wait to see the results though, those thoughts are constantly rolling around in my head!
I'll echo what everyone else is saying, give it a couple of months on HRT and you'll wonder how you ever passed as male.
Quote from: smdh on July 11, 2015, 10:12:28 AM
Just got my letter, so no HRT--YET.
I know I don't pass (broad shoulders, veiny hands, deep voice), but I know there are MANY ways to work on those things or down-play them as features.
So here I am. Do I pass?
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Where did you get that lovely dress? Yes you do pass, - most definitely. Your hair is beautiful by the way, - in fact I feel slightly jealous.
You remind me of someone I used to know back when I was still working, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
Pre-hrt, hopefully I get to start in the beginning of 2016. e.e
Sorry for the bad quality.
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Quote from: Wynternight on July 14, 2015, 11:58:24 AM
So here I am. Do I pass?
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Yes :)
Alright I've worked up enough courage to post in this topic.
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You're looking good Raven. Back when I was serving my apprenticeship as an automotive engineer there was a woman who worked in the canteen who looked a lot like you. She was always nice to me actually, - I think she realised that I didn't really fit in as being a typical mechanic.
Quote from: SimplyJess on July 14, 2015, 01:41:23 PM
Pre-hrt, hopefully I get to start in the beginning of 2016. e.e
Sorry for the bad quality.
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Wow! Perfect bone structure Jess. When you start HRT you are seriously going to bloom.
Quote from: SimplyJess on July 14, 2015, 01:41:23 PM
Pre-hrt, hopefully I get to start in the beginning of 2016. e.e
Sorry for the bad quality.
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I think your cute. I think hormones will only added to that :-)
Quote from: Lady Smith on July 14, 2015, 02:08:12 PM
You're looking good Raven. Back when I was serving my apprenticeship as an automotive engineer there was a woman who worked in the canteen who looked a lot like you. She was always nice to me actually, - I think she realised that I didn't really fit in as being a typical mechanic.
Aww thanks that made my day!
Quote from: Jessie Ann on July 12, 2015, 01:40:22 AM
Girl you are going to be a heart breaker!! I can't wait to see what some time on HRT will do for you.
Thanks, girly! Your encouragement means a lot <3
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Would love some feedback.
hey everyone. still pre-basically-everything. and honestly, i accredit this picture to being more 'flattering light and angle' but uhh yeah. so here we go, definitely want constructive criticism
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Quote from: barbie on July 12, 2015, 12:42:27 PM
Yes. As others said, you look totally feminine to my eyes.
barbie~~
Thank you and I love all your photos Barbie! When I see those photos of you in Seoul, it feels so nostalgic!
Quote from: Valerie_6966 on July 14, 2015, 06:49:17 PM
hey everyone. still pre-basically-everything. and honestly, i accredit this picture to being more 'flattering light and angle' but uhh yeah. so here we go, definitely want constructive criticism
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The picture is a bit grainy but I think you look great. Love the hair style, totally matches.
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You pass very well. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: Yenneffer on July 15, 2015, 03:40:03 PM
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Just took my avatar pic tonight....Any feedback will be great.
Quote from: Hannah.Emma on July 15, 2015, 10:54:56 PM
Just took my avatar pic tonight....Any feedback will be great.
Little small and blurry, Hannah. Do you have a larger pic you could put up?
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Just starting out, any thoughts, tips, or tricks?
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Just starting out, any thoughts, tips, or tricks?
I think, from the photos, you have quite a naturally feminine look to start with and hopefully pass without too much trouble. I'd maybe lose the blue eyeshadow, make the lips a bit fuller with a more natural tone. Oh, and fix the eyebrows!
I posted some days ago, but i realy need some constructive criticism, becaus all i see in the mirror is a man :( I still got a few months to HRT but is it something i could do untill then? Thanks so much you are so nice :)
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You all have a wonderfull day now :)
Quote from: Sandra_V on July 17, 2015, 08:05:39 AM
I posted some days ago, but i realy need some constructive criticism, becaus all i see in the mirror is a man :( I still got a few months to HRT but is it something i could do untill then? Thanks so much you are so nice :)
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You all have a wonderfull day now :)
Are you sure it's a mirror and not some guy looking at you through a window? [emoji14] Because I definitely see a woman there. We're always harder on ourselves and that's not always a bad thing if we use it to better ourselves.
Your eyebrows are a little dark for your hair and kind of gives it away as a wig, but the style fits your face well. You've got a great smile and a very feminine face. You've got a great starting point.
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Quote from: ChiGirl on July 17, 2015, 11:28:42 AM
Your eyebrows are a little dark for your hair and kind of gives it away as a wig, but the style fits your face well. You've got a great smile and a very feminine face. You've got a great starting point.
Thanks for the confidence bost :)
My wig is actualy just a few shades lighter than my hair so i'll guess i need to go whit a lighter shade on my brows :) Normaly thay are blonde blonde :P (blonde blonde = the blondest there is )
And thanks for the feedback :)
Yeah, I've got blonde hair with darker eyebrows. It's funny how that happens.
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do i pass??.. or still look like a femy guy ..
i am 28 yers old MTF all most 2 years on HRT , lesbian ..
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I would say you pass. I especially like the top one. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: Sakushi on July 17, 2015, 03:27:35 PM
do i pass??.. or still look like a femy guy ..
i am 28 yers old MTF all most 2 years on HRT , lesbian ..
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Quote from: Sakushi on July 17, 2015, 03:27:35 PM
do i pass??.. or still look like a femy guy ..
i am 28 yers old MTF all most 2 years on HRT , lesbian ..
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Yes I think you pass and you're pretty cute!! ;) xx
Quote from: Sakushi on July 17, 2015, 03:27:35 PM
do i pass??.. or still look like a femy guy ..
i am 28 yers old MTF all most 2 years on HRT , lesbian ..
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Definite pass!
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Quote from: Sakushi on July 17, 2015, 03:27:35 PM
do i pass??.. or still look like a femy guy ..
i am 28 yers old MTF all most 2 years on HRT , lesbian ..
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You are a rather attractive young lady, but so serious and looking kind of angry
A smile probably couldn't hurt :icon_chick:
Hugs
Quote from: V M on July 17, 2015, 09:27:44 PM
You are a rather attractive young lady, but so serious and looking kind of angry
A smile probably couldn't hurt :icon_chick:
Hugs
You're gorgeous!!!! Your skin is simply amazing--totes jealous!!!
You'll do good overall--no issues. May want to look into some highlights though--helps soften the face more and takes you further away from your haircolor-of-origin.lol
Seriously, you look great! :)
Quote from: Sandra_V on July 17, 2015, 12:31:30 PM
Thanks for the confidence bost :)
My wig is actualy just a few shades lighter than my hair so i'll guess i need to go whit a lighter shade on my brows :) Normaly thay are blonde blonde :P (blonde blonde = the blondest there is )
And thanks for the feedback :)
Hey, there's nothing wrong with blonde hair and darker brows--that's me(and hudson leick :)....
You look gorgeous...total femme!
The only thing I would do is get a nice soft highlighter like Touche Eclait by Yves St. Laurent...Highlight around your 'frown lines' and above your upper lip...It helps brighten and lessen any dark shadow there....Not saying your hairy or anything it's just the pic makes you look darker there which would be a giveaway...Any highlighter with a soft yellow tone would work, and brighten your face(maybe it's just the lighting in the pic too is casting a shadow?)
But you're gorgeous and you *must* cut your hair like that when it's long enough--that's an amazing style for your face!!
I bought myself a new wig tonight and it's amazing how confident I felt. So I know I don't pass yet (I need makeup work, eyebrows done, lose some weight) but I felt pretty good. Any constructive criticism?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi356.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo6%2Fcbgreiwe%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20150717_180410_zpsbpqacnq7.jpg&hash=071691008d2ca10978fed7eb9f3717a36cceff13) (http://s356.photobucket.com/user/cbgreiwe/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150717_180410_zpsbpqacnq7.jpg.html)
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Hello,
Not trying to look good or pass (I'm not really into makeup anyway), just looking for random comments. I'm close to 2 month HRT and had 2 laser sessions. :P I wonder how will further HRT affect my face.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1368.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag192%2Fangemusicien%2FPrivate%2FWIN_20150718_091428_zpsfsxkyhz7.jpg&hash=cfa10463605c726ff1810283e02be2160d923b13)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1368.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag192%2Fangemusicien%2FPrivate%2FWIN_20150718_091411_zps3h5fjef7.jpg&hash=12d55e32be26a38671fe8b1b749d32bab1dad15e)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1368.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag192%2Fangemusicien%2FPrivate%2FWIN_20150718_091425_zpsbanbgdgj.jpg&hash=2db71a93c7dafcb239b3143b2bb92dd2649c5825)
Thanks :-)
thank you all for the comments.
i am really happey whit my transition ..
and i come a long way and learned a lots of new things and explored my self and sexuality .
i am not really active on forums , normally i am pretty shay ..
so heh .. ^_^ but i have been posting pics and wellcome topic over the 2 years ..
sooo yay .. and soon ill be doing a top surgery 30/5/16 .. can't wait ^___^
HRT will make your complexion better, give you a bit of a glow, help clear up acne and decrease oily skin, and soften your features, make them more round. At 150 lbs. pre-HRT I looked gaunt. At 160 lbs. and 11 months in I have a far more feminine looking face with it having filled in and softened.
Quote from: Ange on July 18, 2015, 02:33:30 AM
Hello,
Not trying to look good or pass (I'm not really into makeup anyway), just looking for random comments. I'm close to 2 month HRT and had 2 laser sessions. :P I wonder how will further HRT affect my face.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1368.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag192%2Fangemusicien%2FPrivate%2FWIN_20150718_091428_zpsfsxkyhz7.jpg&hash=cfa10463605c726ff1810283e02be2160d923b13)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1368.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag192%2Fangemusicien%2FPrivate%2FWIN_20150718_091411_zps3h5fjef7.jpg&hash=12d55e32be26a38671fe8b1b749d32bab1dad15e)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1368.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag192%2Fangemusicien%2FPrivate%2FWIN_20150718_091425_zpsbanbgdgj.jpg&hash=2db71a93c7dafcb239b3143b2bb92dd2649c5825)
Thanks :-)
I don't really normally post on things like this but here it goes, how am I doing ?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi448.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fqq207%2Fchristine_shearing1%2F20150718_195328_zpswzrqherq.jpg&hash=69553f84a43e87616d12c05de91901055c70cf26) (http://s448.photobucket.com/user/christine_shearing1/media/20150718_195328_zpswzrqherq.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi448.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fqq207%2Fchristine_shearing1%2F20150718_195403_zpsmuqrharz.jpg&hash=415585ab03252e6ff05951cd5a4e71fb5b4070b3) (http://s448.photobucket.com/user/christine_shearing1/media/20150718_195403_zpsmuqrharz.jpg.html)
You are looking good Christine! The glasses+blonde hair are perfect!
Hello everyone! I thought this thread was epic so I had to join and post my pic to see what you all think.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fa6ikGBe.png&hash=aad2602321e89061b38669fe61197952cb925d38)
Topic locked for admin/GM review
Quote from: Princess H on July 18, 2015, 02:51:45 PM
Hello everyone! I thought this thread was epic so I had to join and post my pic to see what you all think.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fa6ikGBe.png&hash=aad2602321e89061b38669fe61197952cb925d38)
SO FREAKIN' CUTE! :laugh:
Quote from: ChiGirl on July 17, 2015, 10:01:28 PM
I bought myself a new wig tonight and it's amazing how confident I felt. So I know I don't pass yet (I need makeup work, eyebrows done, lose some weight) but I felt pretty good. Any constructive criticism?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi356.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo6%2Fcbgreiwe%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20150717_180410_zpsbpqacnq7.jpg&hash=071691008d2ca10978fed7eb9f3717a36cceff13) (http://s356.photobucket.com/user/cbgreiwe/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150717_180410_zpsbpqacnq7.jpg.html)
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Ahh I have a wig like that and it looks awful on me but you pull it off really well! I don't have anything to add since you already pointed out what you are fixing keep it up!
Quote from: RavenL on July 20, 2015, 04:37:17 PM
Ahh I have a wig like that and it looks awful on me but you pull it off really well! I don't have anything to add since you already pointed out what you are fixing keep it up!
Thank you. [emoji4]
Charlotte
I'll just use my recently changed avatar. I know a wig would help, but I'm not into wearing one yet, especially in the hot and humid Houston summer.
Hi Ladies,
11 months on HRT and the hair is getting longer :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcieQQ8g.jpg&hash=532c79dbc6a3602cf8ffbc28c169ca9a866648ca)
Lovely as Always April. Beautiful picture. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: carmenkate on July 20, 2015, 10:38:15 PM
Hi Ladies,
11 months on HRT and the hair is getting longer :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcieQQ8g.jpg&hash=532c79dbc6a3602cf8ffbc28c169ca9a866648ca)
Thank you Ms.Mariah xoxo
Quote from: Mariah2014 on July 20, 2015, 10:39:24 PM
Lovely as Always April. Beautiful picture. Hugs
Mariah
I've been afraid of doing this, especially with short hair but, thoughts? I don't have makeup on so this is rather raw. Also the capris are not the most flattering too.
Anyhow, how well do I pass? I'm also open to any suggestions.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff279%2Fchrystinac%2F20150719_000816940_iOS_zpsiksyovfl.jpg&hash=beebb9069c0e294a6bc8a55e81f46400a018e54c)
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Quote from: CrysC on July 21, 2015, 12:38:23 AM
I've been afraid of doing this, especially with short hair but, thoughts? I don't have makeup on so this is rather raw. Also the capris are not the most flattering too.
Anyhow, how well do I pass? I'm also open to any suggestions.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff279%2Fchrystinac%2F20150719_000816940_iOS_zpsiksyovfl.jpg&hash=beebb9069c0e294a6bc8a55e81f46400a018e54c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff279%2Fchrystinac%2F20150718_235759167_iOS_zpsdpophsu0.jpg&hash=8407713a5417ec2824ff1ebe1ff7964c24db6a0c)
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Honestly I think you pass great...
Quote from: amber roskamp on July 21, 2015, 05:39:57 AM
Honestly I think you pass great...
This +1. You look every inch a woman.
+2 because I didn't see any issues really. You can definitly rock the short hair fine. Short hair isn't for or at least not yet for me.
Mariah
Quote from: Lady Smith on July 21, 2015, 05:56:12 AM
This +1. You look every inch a woman.
Wow! Thanks ladies. You babes rock.
just hit fifteen posts and was going to have a photo of myself as my profile picture but got very very self conscious lol. instead i'll post her first and please be brutally honest :'( i welcome it!! i'm mainly worried about face and shoulders?
http://m.imgur.com/Z3ZMjMx (http://m.imgur.com/Z3ZMjMx)
So ive been off and on hormones for like 2 years now, money issues but got it sorted out now. I just updated my profile pic I know my face is blocked out but thats intentional :).
Quote from: beastinfection on July 21, 2015, 03:41:42 PM
just hit fifteen posts and was going to have a photo of myself as my profile picture but got very very self conscious lol. instead i'll post her first and please be brutally honest :'( i welcome it!! i'm mainly worried about face and shoulders?
http://m.imgur.com/Z3ZMjMx (http://m.imgur.com/Z3ZMjMx)
you look great. Just open those eyes for the camera :-)
Stephanie, you look great from what I can see in your profile picture.
Quote from: CrysC on July 21, 2015, 04:21:08 PM
you look great. Just open those eyes for the camera :-)
thank you!!! :) i will next time but as i was i couldn't be satisfied with them open lol my self esteem is gradually improving
Quote from: CrysC on July 21, 2015, 04:21:08 PM
you look great. Just open those eyes for the camera :-)
Stephanie, you look great from what I can see in your profile picture.
Thanks :), just wish my face matched the rest of me lol
Quote from: beastinfection on July 21, 2015, 03:41:42 PM
just hit fifteen posts and was going to have a photo of myself as my profile picture but got very very self conscious lol. instead i'll post her first and please be brutally honest :'( i welcome it!! i'm mainly worried about face and shoulders?
http://m.imgur.com/Z3ZMjMx (http://m.imgur.com/Z3ZMjMx)
Honestly you shouldnt be worried your face is very soft already, and from what i can see in the picture your shoulders are barely bigger than your hips which is not bad at all.
Quote from: Stephanie G on July 21, 2015, 04:34:23 PM
Honestly you shouldnt be worried your face is very soft already, and from what i can see in the picture your shoulders are barely bigger than your hips which is not bad at all.
thank you i really appreciate this :) i have hooded eyes which is terribly annoying though, and i think my hips were accentuated thanks to the fit of the dress? i dont have very large hips but i have a small waist so i can sort of bend things in my favor. regarding just the physical my shoulders are my biggest fear though, save for my feet! i recently discovered i can fit in US women's size 11 so that has sort of been remedied :D
it's a bit small but from what i can tell you have a very nice figure :)
Quote from: beastinfection on July 21, 2015, 04:51:45 PM
thank you i really appreciate this :) i have hooded eyes which is terribly annoying though, and i think my hips were accentuated thanks to the fit of the dress? i dont have very large hips but i have a small waist so i can sort of bend things in my favor. regarding just the physical my shoulders are my biggest fear though, save for my feet! i recently discovered i can fit in US women's size 11 so that has sort of been remedied :D
it's a bit small but from what i can tell you have a very nice figure :)
Aww thanks, and ya I was pretty underweight I am actually still trying to gain weight back. I am also starting to do squats, and waiting for some weights so I can start weight training kinda thing to maybe make my hips look bigger like http://www.fitstep.com/Misc/Newsletter-archives/issue54/hips.htm. You still shouldn't be worried though, and if you are there are a ton of things you can do clothes wise to even out your figure. We tend to focus on things we don't like and make it worse in our head than it actually is.
Quote from: Stephanie G on July 21, 2015, 05:00:58 PM
Aww thanks, and ya I was pretty underweight I am actually still trying to gain weight back. I am also starting to do squats, and waiting for some weights so I can start weight training kinda thing to maybe make my hips look bigger like http://www.fitstep.com/Misc/Newsletter-archives/issue54/hips.htm. You still shouldn't be worried though, and if you are there are a ton of things you can do clothes wise to even out your figure. We tend to focus on things we don't like and make it worse in our head than it actually is.
omg I thought you meant me!!! lol you meant the picture. well (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1061.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft478%2Fdraddog8%2Fbefore%2520after%2F20150721_164049-1_zpsab0bpizq.jpg&hash=96829bfda44366c19d038ab72d3f78f68871b3cd)
there is the full size one
Quote from: Stephanie G on July 21, 2015, 05:02:40 PM
omg I thought you meant me!!! lol you meant the picture. well (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1061.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft478%2Fdraddog8%2Fbefore%2520after%2F20150721_164049-1_zpsab0bpizq.jpg&hash=96829bfda44366c19d038ab72d3f78f68871b3cd)
there is the full size one
sorry for any confusion ??? i like your top a lot :) personally i have entirely given up on shorts/trousers but those also appear to look very good on you :D
Quote from: beastinfection on July 21, 2015, 08:02:24 PM
sorry for any confusion ??? i like your top a lot :) personally i have entirely given up on shorts/trousers but those also appear to look very good on you :D
Thanks, I actually found them both at value village :). Tbh I havn't been able to get myself to go outside in any dresses, shirts, or any shorts that are shorter than like 3/4 of my thighs. Too self conscious.
Quote from: Stephanie G on July 21, 2015, 08:10:10 PM
Thanks, I actually found them both at value village :). Tbh I havn't been able to get myself to go outside in any dresses, shirts, or any shorts that are shorter than like 3/4 of my thighs. Too self conscious.
i haven't gone out at all yet!! but in private use I own no shorts and like one pair of trousers; only skirts and dresses >:-) same though regarding being self conscious i don't have the nerve to go out
looking far into the future though if i ever get srs i think only then would i feel confident wearing bottom-tight clothing :/
Quote from: beastinfection on July 21, 2015, 08:20:52 PM
i haven't gone out at all yet!! but in private use I own no shorts and like one pair of trousers; only skirts and dresses >:-) same though regarding being self conscious i don't have the nerve to go out
looking far into the future though if i ever get srs i think only then would i feel confident wearing bottom-tight clothing :/
O ya I only have female clothes I just usually wear a sweater too. But with skirts and dresses I am like the opposite, jeans etc are sooo much easier for me. If you tuck right nothing really shows, but things that are really feminine I have an issue with, huge fear of looking like a guy in a dress and feminine things fall with that.
Though you will get there I am sure, it honestly took me forever. The only reason I actually went full time is because my girlfriend at the time kinda pushed me.
Quote from: Stephanie G on July 21, 2015, 08:10:10 PM
Thanks, I actually found them both at value village :).
Hah, most of my wardrobe came from there too! It was waaaaaay less stressful to be shopping for womens clothes in that environment and the low cost allowed for reduced-risk experimentation. As my public confidence grew I started getting some things from mainstream clothing stores though. Also, now that my mom is more comfortable with my identity she's actually been helping by bringing things home for me to try on. At this point, being full-time, I have to be able to shop anywhere because I need enough clothing to cover all occasions/seasons and my workplace.
Quote from: beastinfection on July 21, 2015, 03:41:42 PM
just hit fifteen posts and was going to have a photo of myself as my profile picture but got very very self conscious lol. instead i'll post her first and please be brutally honest :'( i welcome it!! i'm mainly worried about face and shoulders?
http://m.imgur.com/Z3ZMjMx (http://m.imgur.com/Z3ZMjMx)
You have a lovely round, feminine face. :)
Be nice everyone!!! I know they aren't the best photos but, at least, they're taken using an actual camera. And by another person! My selfies always come out wrong. Perhaps I need one of those stick things? Perhaps you don't really need to know that. Anyhow I suppose I'm getting there! Pre-everything other than two sessions of laser and lots of make-up. Which is something I've always enjoyed doing. Make-up I mean! Also the eyebrows ;) lol!! Had a bad job and currently growing them back in for a good job next week. They look like caterpillars - Arrggh!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.postimg.org%2Fi1hkwaqer%2FPTDC0042.jpg&hash=452a8ef8e3e1ab5f79c131c13f63a3b622ca5bda)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.postimg.org%2Fmbw8rvvhv%2FPTDC0041.jpg&hash=50aeb92acfbdcef5aa33a533d93ed0a623129e10)
Get the look!
Foundation - Max Factor Olive Pan Stik
Powder - Max Factor Crème Puff translucent base and medium beige final dust
Eyes - Revlon Primer, Maybelline nude eyeshadow, Bourjois Ultra Black mascara, Revlon grey eye crayon, Max Factor (I think) powder brows kit
Lips - Max Factor poppy red lipstick
Clothes - Primark and Matalan, necklace was a present
Hair - Messy style after wash and condition using Goldwell Hot Form spray and Glamour Whip magic finish. And two spring clips :D (damn you Lucy Worsely and your making me want to use hair clips).
Anyhow - what do you think? There's still a long way to go...
* Edited to add - I'm looking a little serious because I was trying to tell the photographer how to work the camera at the same time!! I kept thinking about that so couldn't adopt the most natural pose :-*
Quote from: Illuminess on November 17, 2014, 12:56:58 AM
One day, I'll have better photos (where I don't have to Photoshop them or use makeshift boobs).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.illuminess.net%2Fimages%2Fdressup4.jpg&hash=e61bedb928eb7998a6c464415120ea4bdf83ba36) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.illuminess.net%2Fimages%2Fdressup8.jpg&hash=62d192433cd43a6f73026273bb7ca27919a998e6)
Tomorrow afternoon, I go to the clinic for my endo referral. Check out what they have on their New Patient form:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.illuminess.net%2Fimages%2Flegacy-trans.jpg&hash=a1ddd6fea7aa1bfc3678fae25d3e948d6894b7c7)
You look great sweetie
Sent from my LGLS990 using Tapatalk
Quote from: Missy D on July 26, 2015, 04:01:00 AM
Be nice everyone!!! I know they aren't the best photos but, at least, they're taken using an actual camera. And by another person! My selfies always come out wrong. Perhaps I need one of those stick things? Perhaps you don't really need to know that. Anyhow I suppose I'm getting there! Pre-everything other than two sessions of laser and lots of make-up. Which is something I've always enjoyed doing. Make-up I mean! Also the eyebrows ;) lol!! Had a bad job and currently growing them back in for a good job next week. They look like caterpillars - Arrggh!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.postimg.org%2Fi1hkwaqer%2FPTDC0042.jpg&hash=452a8ef8e3e1ab5f79c131c13f63a3b622ca5bda)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.postimg.org%2Fmbw8rvvhv%2FPTDC0041.jpg&hash=50aeb92acfbdcef5aa33a533d93ed0a623129e10)
Get the look!
Foundation - Max Factor Olive Pan Stik
Powder - Max Factor Crème Puff translucent base and medium beige final dust
Eyes - Revlon Primer, Maybelline nude eyeshadow, Bourjois Ultra Black mascara, Revlon grey eye crayon, Max Factor (I think) powder brows kit
Lips - Max Factor poppy red lipstick
Clothes - Primark and Matalan, necklace was a present
Hair - Messy style after wash and condition using Goldwell Hot Form spray and Glamour Whip magic finish. And two spring clips :D (damn you Lucy Worsely and your making me want to use hair clips).
Anyhow - what do you think? There's still a long way to go...
* Edited to add - I'm looking a little serious because I was trying to tell the photographer how to work the camera at the same time!! I kept thinking about that so couldn't adopt the most natural pose :-*
You have pretty good presentation skills already, and you have a great base to begin with. Het and more lasers will do wonders for you
Quote from: Missy D on July 26, 2015, 04:01:00 AM
Be nice everyone!!! I know they aren't the best photos but, at least, they're taken using an actual camera. And by another person! My selfies always come out wrong. Perhaps I need one of those stick things? Perhaps you don't really need to know that. Anyhow I suppose I'm getting there! Pre-everything other than two sessions of laser and lots of make-up. Which is something I've always enjoyed doing. Make-up I mean! Also the eyebrows ;) lol!! Had a bad job and currently growing them back in for a good job next week. They look like caterpillars - Arrggh!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.postimg.org%2Fi1hkwaqer%2FPTDC0042.jpg&hash=452a8ef8e3e1ab5f79c131c13f63a3b622ca5bda)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.postimg.org%2Fmbw8rvvhv%2FPTDC0041.jpg&hash=50aeb92acfbdcef5aa33a533d93ed0a623129e10)
Get the look!
Foundation - Max Factor Olive Pan Stik
Powder - Max Factor Crème Puff translucent base and medium beige final dust
Eyes - Revlon Primer, Maybelline nude eyeshadow, Bourjois Ultra Black mascara, Revlon grey eye crayon, Max Factor (I think) powder brows kit
Lips - Max Factor poppy red lipstick
Clothes - Primark and Matalan, necklace was a present
Hair - Messy style after wash and condition using Goldwell Hot Form spray and Glamour Whip magic finish. And two spring clips :D (damn you Lucy Worsely and your making me want to use hair clips).
Anyhow - what do you think? There's still a long way to go...
* Edited to add - I'm looking a little serious because I was trying to tell the photographer how to work the camera at the same time!! I kept thinking about that so couldn't adopt the most natural pose :-*
Yes. You are fashion sensible, and seem to pass well.
As you mentioned, you may trim your eye brows nicely to look more feminine.
You may avoid closing your lips too tightly.
barbie~~
Thanks so much Amber and Barbie!! I'm still jealous of the hair (in both of your cases) - but this is all a journey isn't it. Kind words are always worth so much; like little stars in the night that keep us powering on through it all.
And Barbie - thanks, re the lips. I was kind of concerned the photographer was about to drop my camera in those pictures, hence the serious, but I'll definitely give that a try. I hadn't thought of it until you said so next time I will.
Quote from: Missy D on July 26, 2015, 04:01:00 AM
Be nice everyone!!! I know they aren't the best photos but, at least, they're taken using an actual camera. And by another person! My selfies always come out wrong. Perhaps I need one of those stick things? Perhaps you don't really need to know that. Anyhow I suppose I'm getting there! Pre-everything other than two sessions of laser and lots of make-up. Which is something I've always enjoyed doing. Make-up I mean! Also the eyebrows ;) lol!! Had a bad job and currently growing them back in for a good job next week. They look like caterpillars - Arrggh!
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Get the look!
Foundation - Max Factor Olive Pan Stik
Powder - Max Factor Crème Puff translucent base and medium beige final dust
Eyes - Revlon Primer, Maybelline nude eyeshadow, Bourjois Ultra Black mascara, Revlon grey eye crayon, Max Factor (I think) powder brows kit
Lips - Max Factor poppy red lipstick
Clothes - Primark and Matalan, necklace was a present
Hair - Messy style after wash and condition using Goldwell Hot Form spray and Glamour Whip magic finish. And two spring clips :D (damn you Lucy Worsely and your making me want to use hair clips).
Anyhow - what do you think? There's still a long way to go...
* Edited to add - I'm looking a little serious because I was trying to tell the photographer how to work the camera at the same time!! I kept thinking about that so couldn't adopt the most natural pose :-*
Maybe you can try changing your eyebrows. I like your make up!
<- This is me with a wig
This is me with my natural hair:
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This is my 5th Mont on HRT Update (Yes Im on 5 months btw, I haven't had laser hair removal yet, so if u can see a 5 o' clock shadow, its because im bad with make up, I dont know what to use to cover it, plus I feel like my facial hair just grows rlly fast italian genes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znFWeUyW2Mw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znFWeUyW2Mw)
Any tips is appreciated, I'm thinking about getting hair extension that match my natural color, but then I would probably have to straighten my hair most of the times, etc... Plus they might be too expensive if I want human hair.
I think that you have enough length for a pretty hairstyle. Have you tried using a flat iron, curling iron, hairdryer with round brush, etc. or perhaps going to a stylist and asking for a makeover would be beneficial. Best wishes :)
I went with the hairdryer and brush route but it drys up my hair too much and makes them fall out so i dont like to do that too often lol, when I used to use flatiron my hair didn't fall as much, so maybe i'll go with that, but since I want to grow them out more, I'd rather not to use heating tools because IM scared that they might ruin them.
Quote from: Serena ♡ on July 27, 2015, 06:24:04 PM
I went with the hairdryer and brush route but it drys up my hair too much and makes them fall out so i dont like to do that too often lol, when I used to use flatiron my hair didn't fall as much, so maybe i'll go with that, but since I want to grow them out more, I'd rather not to use heating tools because IM scared that they might ruin them.
Heat tools will not damage your hair if you use a temperature that is right for your hair type and use a heat styling product to protect it. Wearing wigs for long periods of time may be worse for your hair than heat tools.
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How female do i look now, and how female do you think HRT will make me look?
Quote from: kittenpower on July 27, 2015, 06:30:49 PM
Heat tools will not damage your hair if you use a temperature that is right for your hair type and use a heat styling product to protect it. Wearing wigs for long periods of time may be worse for your hair than heat tools.
Okay!
Just took these this morning the Laundromat. Still question myself alot.
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Beautiful. You pass wonderfully. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: Rachael on July 28, 2015, 08:01:15 AM
Just took these this morning the Laundromat. Still question myself alot.
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what are things i can do pre-HRT to improve my passability?
The Rachels in this room look great, no matter which way you spell your names! :p
Quote from: rachel89 on July 28, 2015, 09:00:12 AM
what are things i can do pre-HRT to improve my passability?
It's a little hard to tell from the angle, but the first place for me is usually getting the eyebrows under control. Not that women are
supposed to have perfectly shaped eyebrows, but if you're looking for something which distinctly interprets as feminine, this can do a big job! Likewise, your eye makeup is gorgeous, but maybe toning down a little could help. But that's also my preference showing.
Other than that, there are a lot of micro mannerisms that can help others better interpret you as female. If you can surround yourself with other women, try letting yourself relax, and you'll slowly adapt.
pre-anything and no makeup at all
Just did my eyebrow and i should start hrt soon.
What do you think?
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Did my eyebrows today also.
Quote from: archlord on July 28, 2015, 02:41:33 PM
pre-anything and no makeup at all
Just did my eyebrow and i should start hrt soon.
What do you think?
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You have the prettiest eyes. :)
Quote from: barbie on July 26, 2015, 02:33:12 PM
Yes. You are fashion sensible, and seem to pass well.
As you mentioned, you may trim your eye brows nicely to look more feminine.
You may avoid closing your lips too tightly.
barbie~~
Beautiful!
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i feel ok about my appearance but a little kid came up to me at work recently and said "wait youre a girl? why do you look like a boy?" so eh
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Quote from: gaygirl420 on July 30, 2015, 06:21:02 AMi feel ok about my appearance but a little kid came up to me at work recently and said "wait youre a girl? why do you look like a boy?" so eh
Two factors I think come into play with kids:
1) Little kids are short munchkins who see us all from a unique perspective.. waaay down low.
2) They have no filter, so they're more likely to blurt out socially inept stuff.
Even though you look great, sometimes being gendered is a matter of millimeters and as point 1 suggests, maybe they see something in the jaw or brow that adults miss due to their perspective, and as point 2 suggests, they'll just say whatever they think about it!
I certainly
cannot say that's what's going on because, just like your initial thread, the consensus was that you look really good and people were stymied as to why you said you weren't passing.
Hello everyone,
I am new to this forum, so I don't know a ton about posting, so I hope you will all bear with me. I am questioning my gender identity, and I have been struggling with different labels (genderfluid, demigirl), but I know that I would definitely like to look more feminine or androgynous. What are these lasers that you are all talking about? I have no clue where to start researching facial feminization, and for now I have to focus on makeup and things like that. So could someone explain to me this laser concept? And also, since I can't exactly undergo any HRT or surgeries yet, could someone give me some makeup ideas? I really hope this can kind of fit in this thread. Thanks
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Quote from: gaygirl420 on July 30, 2015, 06:21:02 AM
i feel ok about my appearance but a little kid came up to me at work recently and said "wait youre a girl? why do you look like a boy?" so eh
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You are a cutie! Little kids are funny, they will just say what ever they think, I have had them ask me why I talk like a boy... this was when I was in "boy mode" so apparently they thought I looked like a girl but sounded like a guy. I just giggle about it and think it is funny. You look good in the photo there, so I would not worry much about what the kid said. If it happens again, just say, "well you look like a dinosaur" haha! I bet the kid will run around all day roaring and stomping, teehee
-Jade
Alright this is me after having makeup on for eight hours. After shopping, getting rained on, cleaning the kitchen, making dinner and eating dinner.
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Quote from: gaygirl420 on July 30, 2015, 06:21:02 AM
i feel ok about my appearance but a little kid came up to me at work recently and said "wait youre a girl? why do you look like a boy?" so eh
Well, I think you're in the club and fall in to my "super cute" category. Just keep doing whatever you're doing because it's working for you.
Quote from: RavenL on July 30, 2015, 10:48:11 AM
Alright this is me after having makeup on for eight hours.
I'd say the makeup held up pretty well and looks good. The only thing I'd suggest about your look might be to consider a more asymmetrical hairstyle. Maybe something with more sidesweep of the bands or something. You and I both have faces that can benefit from a bit of width on the sides.
Quote from: Jade_404 on July 30, 2015, 10:46:51 AM
You are a cutie! Little kids are funny, they will just say what ever they think, I have had them ask me why I talk like a boy... this was when I was in "boy mode" so apparently they thought I looked like a girl but sounded like a guy. I just giggle about it and think it is funny. You look good in the photo there, so I would not worry much about what the kid said. If it happens again, just say, "well you look like a dinosaur" haha! I bet the kid will run around all day roaring and stomping, teehee
-Jade
i will say that my work uniform is jot very flattering ! its just a guy's black tshirt. i think part of the reason i pass in the photos i post is that i wear cute/flattering outfits in my selfies
Just updated my avatar. I know the hair is not long enough, but I'm in the training mode on how to fix it, style it and grow it.
As well just learning about make-up too.
Any comments would be appreciated.
Hugz,
Joi
It has taken two days to get the courage to post these and right now I am freaking out beyond imagination. :embarrassed: I have posted a few small single things but nothing like this. I am far from brave or ready for people to know this part of me yet. However I am reaching the second phase of my preparation's (five parts with one down).
Still dropping weight although very slowly :(
Here is a few shots I took today to see how I was progressing. Keep in mind I am not on HRT and can not start until I drop a lot more weight. My hair is still growing and it now at my chin when wet so it is getting there heh! I had to take shots on my old iPhone. First lot are with hair down and up. The wig is a half piece so it goes under my own hair to add length only. The fringe is my hair pulled back and clipped with pins to make it "appear" as if it is my fringe. Trust me it took 45mins to practice it :(
The second set are a body type shot which I HATE! I look big/fat and manly which I become depressed over the second I see it as I am not at all feminine looking :'(
HEAD SHOTS:
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BODY SHOTS: (remember I present as a guy and have not started HRT)
Also excuse the mess and toilet in the background!! I am in the middle of moving things from one room to another so it is hectic.
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SIX MONTHS AGO: (It took a lot to post this as it was me at my worst 125kgs/276lbs. I am now 85kg/187lbs)
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TWO MONTHS AGO: (I was 94kgs/207lbs)
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Quote from: Sarah leah on July 31, 2015, 03:22:56 AM
It has taken two days to get the courage to post these and right now I am freaking out beyond imagination. :embarrassed: I have posted a few small single things but nothing like this. I am far from brave or ready for people to know this part of me yet. However I am reaching the second phase of my preparation's (five parts with one down).
Ok, now that's inspirational to me. Seriously. I'm at 220lbs/5'5, and wanting to lose before I can get into the endo to start HRT. You look great! I hope that we can see more later.
I'm still in the 'super plus' category, but getting there...
Here's a funny story from yesterday... so I found some really cute skirts at Tractor Supply, and told my wife I want to go shopping, since we both dress Western as a style. So we get there, she buys all the skirts I wanted, and a shirt and tells me 'When you get a job, you can buy clothes.'
<ouch!>
I did get >a< new skirt. Tops will be coming shortly, as soon as I find one that works.
Thank you.
It has been a struggle to drop the weight as I started a year ago and replaced it all after I refused to face what was going on we me and after being attacked by a group of Lebanese men. Then six months ago I said enough is enough and started again this time dropping more than before. :-\
My big concern is I have very broad shoulders and a ugly male facial structure with a broad chin and thick cheeks/jaw. I can live with big feet (I am male size 10-10.5 Australia) as they will at the very least thin out a bit more I hope! Plus I know a great site that sells the cutest shoes and boots ever for up to size 14 Aus for women! I am also 5'11-ish foot so I am also pretty tall I guess, but not amazon size. I just pray I get thinner in the shoulders as they are my pet hate with my weight loss thus far. They seem to be all encompassing and fat/muscles.. well mostly fat as I do not do weights anymore.
I know we all hate ourselves but I am at that point of giving up again as I look at these photos and they scream ugly beast man in a ill fitting dress. I will post better ones later that show my shape as the little black dress (size14 Australia) is not kind to the shape and was all I could find in the local country farmers store! :embarrassed:
If you look at the first two photos I was wearing a lace style top which I honestly love as it is a perfect fit and looks great with levis and knee boots.
Quote from: Sarah leah on July 31, 2015, 09:13:36 AM
My big concern is I have very broad shoulders and a ugly male facial structure with a broad chin and thick cheeks/jaw
You dont actually - they are not really that wide to be of concern and as You correctly noted they are mostly fat/muscles anyway. So, they will melt, just give them some time. As for cheeks and jaw, You can't be sure if those issues are due to bone structure, or that's fat (and facial muscles) again. I had very broad jaw, but it turned out to be mostly muscles due to extensive use in chewing gum in my twenties... Now, my face is much narrower (as are the shoulders). So just give them some time and enjoy the ride :).
Also Sarah if the shoulders do bother you try pulling them back a little it does wonders!
new avatar
First makeup ever ( did it myself)
pre-anything
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You pass; you look really pretty, and your eyes are gorgeous. One thing about your makeup though (but it could be from the lighting), the foundation doesn't seem to match your natural skin tone, but otherwise you did a really good job with it. :)
Quote from: kittenpower on July 31, 2015, 05:31:14 PM
You pass; you look really pretty, and your eyes are gorgeous. One thing about your makeup though (but it could be from the lighting), the foundation doesn't seem to match your natural skin tone, but otherwise you did a really good job with it. :)
thank you, i guess it is the lighting because i only have concealer under my eyes, elsewere it is my original face.
I could tell that your forehead looks clear, but your face looks sallow, so that's why I thought you were wearing foundation.
Quote from: archlord on July 31, 2015, 04:45:58 PM
First makeup ever ( did it myself)
pre-anything
It looks very nice. One thing to consider is having your wig a little further down on your forehead or consider a wig that has bangs. You have very pretty eyes and a great foundation to start from.
Quote from: gaygirl420 on July 30, 2015, 06:21:02 AM
i feel ok about my appearance but a little kid came up to me at work recently and said "wait youre a girl? why do you look like a boy?" so eh
little kids have thins sub atomic nano radar. They use it to instill vast amounts of confusion in people who are transitioning. I don't think it's a malicious plan guided by extraterrestrial beings intending on the over throw of human civilization , but just an innate evolutionary mechanism for their own survival in case a mutant virus destroys all human beings over the age of 18, hence the need to pull the human race from oblivion.
Quote from: archlord on July 31, 2015, 04:45:58 PM
First makeup ever ( did it myself)
pre-anything
hormones will be very kind to you
Quote from: stephaniec on July 31, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
little kids have thins sub atomic nano radar. They use it to instill vast amounts of confusion in people who are transitioning. I don't think it's a malicious plan guided by extraterrestrial beings intending on the over throw of human civilization , but just an innate evolutionary mechanism for their own survival in case a mutant virus destroys all human beings over the age of 18, hence the need to pull the human race from oblivion.
Most adults notice everything children do; it's just that children haven't been socialized enough to develop a filter or learned to be discreet with their observations.
Quote from: archlord on July 31, 2015, 04:45:58 PM
First makeup ever ( did it myself)
pre-anything
Unbelievable. You look like a young beauty.
barbie~~
Got a new wig. And I think I may have less Beard shadow. This is my first pic since starting hormones. :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F20f5ba8.jpg&hash=355b11d83bde3ab63872090e827ec64abd7e3ab6)
I love it, really suits you and congrats on the hormones. I am envois of you all, and can not wait to start on them.. one day :P
i found a sick af hat that reminded me of holly golightly
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F40.media.tumblr.com%2F837f046d8f7dcececa862f25401007bc%2Ftumblr_ns45lvgtLX1s6us8do1_400.jpg&hash=bf5e0d865e51b557eb7c60d528c54b6fa852de4c)
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Couple pictures from Friday
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwQp7GF4l.jpg&hash=867649624c11cd57efb5f45ac9bf8844881bbd39) (http://imgur.com/wQp7GF4)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTWZZBwpl.jpg&hash=61117c95b72e1a6d37142c56c20b6bf3b8ade4b6) (http://imgur.com/TWZZBwp)
Quote from: topit on August 01, 2015, 10:20:06 PM
i found a sick af hat that reminded me of holly golightly
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F40.media.tumblr.com%2F837f046d8f7dcececa862f25401007bc%2Ftumblr_ns45lvgtLX1s6us8do1_400.jpg&hash=bf5e0d865e51b557eb7c60d528c54b6fa852de4c)
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Cute! Love the hat :-)
And the hair!
Quote from: Jessika on August 01, 2015, 04:21:05 PM
Got a new wig. And I think I may have less Beard shadow. This is my first pic since starting hormones. :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F20f5ba8.jpg&hash=355b11d83bde3ab63872090e827ec64abd7e3ab6)
Yes. The new wig seems to make you look far younger.
barbie~~
Tried to do a short skirt but I not sure if it works. Maybe I'm just too old to wear short skirts??
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2F7B691B-C098-4FA9-A8F7-AE59FFD16CF7_zpsw3b7m4o3.jpg&hash=f798f252813caf103d67c8ddc5579619b49efde9) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2F7B691B-C098-4FA9-A8F7-AE59FFD16CF7_zpsw3b7m4o3.jpg.html)
It's not flattering on you, maybe try an A-line skirt.
Quote from: Jessie Ann on August 02, 2015, 01:32:39 PM
Tried to do a short skirt but I not sure if it works. Maybe I'm just too old to wear short skirts??
I had the same issue (still have:D) - IMO, my theory is that skirts start working once the upper body becomes in balance with the lower part.
Otherwise, short skirt immediately accentuates the upper body bulk and the whole image becomes disproportionate. I am still in the process of losing upper body bulk but things slowly start to work out.
What do you think ladies?
Quote from: Jessie Ann on August 02, 2015, 01:32:39 PM
Tried to do a short skirt but I not sure if it works. Maybe I'm just too old to wear short skirts??
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2F7B691B-C098-4FA9-A8F7-AE59FFD16CF7_zpsw3b7m4o3.jpg&hash=f798f252813caf103d67c8ddc5579619b49efde9) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2F7B691B-C098-4FA9-A8F7-AE59FFD16CF7_zpsw3b7m4o3.jpg.html)
I do not think there is any substantial difference between short pants and miniskirt. Here in my country, pantskirts are very popular among young girls.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.auction.co.kr%2Fitemimage%2F99%2F4c%2Fa8%2F994ca88a5.jpg&hash=15de94252556bef70e0290ad4eef5687ab67d006) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cocarina.com%2Fshopimages%2Fpolnic%2F0250010001512.jpg&hash=0ae4f72548b52a1be39e8e6467d9e989863b9141)
barbie~~
Here's another one:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs17.postimg.org%2Febvairibz%2FPTDC0120.jpg&hash=a26e9c8a1084e7bf8904806c8fd54483918b6125)
Suffice to say there's lots of make up involved, but yay for more laser tomorrow lol!!!
And I've had my eyebrows waxed since the last picture.
;)
lookin...Gorgeous!
http://s12.photobucket.com/user/marssu/library/Mobile%20Uploads
I have changed so much after 6 months on hormones. The first three pictures are taken couple days ago :)
Quote from: marssu on August 04, 2015, 02:08:48 AM
http://s12.photobucket.com/user/marssu/library/Mobile%20Uploads
I have changed so much after 6 months on hormones. The first three pictures are taken couple days ago :)
Wow... just wow!! You're absolutely stunning!! :) xxx
Quote from: marssu on August 04, 2015, 02:08:48 AM
http://s12.photobucket.com/user/marssu/library/Mobile%20Uploads
I have changed so much after 6 months on hormones. The first three pictures are taken couple days ago :)
very pretty
Quote from: gaygirl420 on July 30, 2015, 06:21:02 AM
i feel ok about my appearance but a little kid came up to me at work recently and said "wait youre a girl? why do you look like a boy?" so eh
(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-0/11800537_10206383649966316_8604729772001350683_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=3fdbf132e84635ddd9e18e9156be4e19&oe=564CECFE)
You have such an adorable and feminine face! I would never guess you weren't born female-bodied. Don't ever take what kids say to heart. They don't understand gender from the same perspective as an adult.
I used to work with this girl who was drop. dead. GORGEOUS. She just had a very short pixie cut. One day a kid came in and asked if she was a boy. When she got upset about it, after assuring her she is absolutely beautiful, I reminded her that most babies and a lot of young children are hard to gender, and she just laughed. Kids don't mean any harm, and are likely to say whatever they think, regardless of what that thought is based off of.
You are very beautiful, don't take a child's words to heart! <3
Quote from: Missy D on August 03, 2015, 03:45:09 PM
Here's another one:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs17.postimg.org%2Febvairibz%2FPTDC0120.jpg&hash=a26e9c8a1084e7bf8904806c8fd54483918b6125)
Suffice to say there's lots of make up involved, but yay for more laser tomorrow lol!!!
And I've had my eyebrows waxed since the last picture.
;)
Your fashion sense is adorable.
barbie~~
Suppose to be getting ffs soon and hope it'll help with passability.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fx68KDWJ.jpg&hash=c872dc0fdf7353546362042ac487225f0adf23ea)
Quote from: Jessie Ann on August 02, 2015, 01:32:39 PM
Tried to do a short skirt but I not sure if it works. Maybe I'm just too old to wear short skirts??
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2F7B691B-C098-4FA9-A8F7-AE59FFD16CF7_zpsw3b7m4o3.jpg&hash=f798f252813caf103d67c8ddc5579619b49efde9) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2F7B691B-C098-4FA9-A8F7-AE59FFD16CF7_zpsw3b7m4o3.jpg.html)
not at all Jessie..you look hot :)
Ok, I need a some what honest opinion. I don't need raw brutal opinion just a soft mostly honest opinion on if I look alright . I don't have a way to take a full body shot or I would get a really nice dress and take a picture . all I have is my computer so the head shots are all I got.
I've been on HRT for about 5 months now, and definitely still have a lot of self-esteem issues with my appearance. I'd love some feedback though, because I'm pretty sure I'm a terrible judge of myself in general. :(
Here are some relatively unflattering pictures from the last week or two. I still wear breast forms - my breasts are growing, but are still out of proportion with my body. :(
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/zgcjv0ncwhmlk0e/IMG_1908.JPG?dl=1)(https://www.dropbox.com/s/xor40rfls6kcahy/IMG_1929.JPG?dl=1)
Quote from: stephaniec on August 05, 2015, 12:44:57 AM
Ok, I need a some what honest opinion. I don't need raw brutal opinion just a soft mostly honest opinion on if I look alright . I don't have a way to take a full body shot or I would get a really nice dress and take a picture . all I have is my computer so the head shots are all I got.
Hello Stephanie ,
You are looking great and this is raw brutally honest :P
You have a glow of feminity and happiness , i hope things are all good for you
Quote from: Claudia_FF on August 05, 2015, 01:02:10 AM
Hello Stephanie ,
You are looking great and this is raw brutally honest :P
You have a glow of feminity and happiness , i hope things are all good for you
thanks I feel happy that you were brutal. I've been in one of those not really sure if I look all right really kind of moments . Thanks I feel a lot better.
Am I starting to male fail? No makeup here!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3xjHRu8.jpg&hash=4e784cf2006437b9ab06dea40bf053b5d17c37ef)
yes, seems to be the case.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1068.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu457%2Fhalonoob1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2015-08%2F97452F48-E38A-434B-9720-10A5D8E60B37_zpskdbiccxx.jpg&hash=e98880c4c3a7a4c12f041e678a6d1201e1033c7e) (http://s1068.photobucket.com/user/halonoob1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/97452F48-E38A-434B-9720-10A5D8E60B37_zpskdbiccxx.jpg.html)how am I doing please be honest
Honey, you are doing fine. You look every inch a young woman.
As it is getting quite hot here recently, this was my office outfit for today
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3IF40CW.jpg&hash=9a69699798d188104affb9d7cd8e575aa9a0f7a6)
I wonder if I should tell the rest of my co-workers that I am transgender and what is this all about...
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on August 05, 2015, 07:00:55 AM
As it is getting quite hot here recently, this was my office outfit for today
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3IF40CW.jpg&hash=9a69699798d188104affb9d7cd8e575aa9a0f7a6)
I wonder if I should tell the rest of my co-workers that I am transgender and what is this all about...
Looking great Emily!
If it were me I'd just keep them guessing ahahaha
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on August 05, 2015, 07:00:55 AM
I wonder if I should tell the rest of my co-workers that I am transgender and what is this all about...
It may be a difficult question, depending on your circumstance. You may risk your job position, although it is not explicitly coded in evaluation, regulation or rule.
In my case, I did not declare anything. I just acted and showed what I wish to do. If a person asked me about gender issue, then I just replied. But it became annoying that I should replied to the same questions by different people hundreds times. I became tired of answering, and I stopped answering. I just act, express and show without words.
barbie~~
I am on a ship in the Korea strait.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/424/20142812090_275e2f77e7_b.jpg)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/519/20142870710_2fd4a8054f_b.jpg)
Barbie~~
Quote from: Angieisalone on August 04, 2015, 07:59:54 PM
Suppose to be getting ffs soon and hope it'll help with passability.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fx68KDWJ.jpg&hash=c872dc0fdf7353546362042ac487225f0adf23ea)
Wow you are beautiful!! I think you deserve two thumbs up and a hug! ^^ Your skin is like... wow!! And don't get me started on blue eyes ;)
Here is a few of me =) 3 of them where taken on the same day and both represent how I do my makeup 90% of the time <3 and the one with blond hair was me at two month of hrt
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXYxJNBem.jpg&hash=e1d16bf5b3de72fdc9fbc4df8260383dcdd2b78f)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpGIChzqm.jpg&hash=5a118eb0be9a899fa54b5e77cfe4d0f37e6a798a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7MfDVKjm.jpg&hash=bee5f6198aa98c566f9e35522e2ed228a79d7b7f)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWbglozNm.jpg&hash=aaf1a10fca6346577a41a2988b8782bfcd7b3b4f)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwpCNvO8m.jpg&hash=f6fcc250262b006d3d321e1341ecab1966d58e78)
very pretty
Hi friends :icon_chick:
Time for a new one, please continue at Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 5.0 (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,193485.msg1724921.html#msg1724921)