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Community Conversation => Transitioning => Voice Therapy and Surgery => Topic started by: Blondie14 on November 27, 2014, 06:06:25 PM

Title: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: Blondie14 on November 27, 2014, 06:06:25 PM
I always get a mix of sir or ma'am sometimes on the same call with my normal voice. I have a head voice as well which people just say sounds female? I think but I'm going to add it later as well. Also I was reading about range and Hz? And was wondering where I'd end up?


https://vimeo.com/m/113052699


Here's my head voice or female voice.

https://vimeo.com/m/113061748
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: suzifrommd on November 27, 2014, 07:50:39 PM
Totally female, IMO, but I don't have a very practiced ear.
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: TSJasmine on November 27, 2014, 09:17:26 PM
It sounds like a lesbian or a little boy lol Which is technically what you are, so it's fitting xD
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: Blondie14 on November 27, 2014, 09:44:55 PM
Quote from: TSJasmine on November 27, 2014, 09:17:26 PM
It sounds like a lesbian or a little boy lol Which is technically what you are, so it's fitting xD
Ok.
What range would I be in?
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: TSJasmine on November 27, 2014, 11:04:01 PM
Quote from: Blondie14 on November 27, 2014, 09:44:55 PM
Ok.
What range would I be in?
Like... what are you asking? Hz? female? Male?
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: Blondie14 on November 27, 2014, 11:14:01 PM
Quote from: TSJasmine on November 27, 2014, 11:04:01 PM
Like... what are you asking? Hz? female? Male?

Yeah hz? I guess and male or female but you already answered that.
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: TSJasmine on November 28, 2014, 01:44:33 AM
Quote from: Blondie14 on November 27, 2014, 11:14:01 PM
Yeah hz? I guess and male or female but you already answered that.

Using praat, your voice averaged at about 210 Hz which is VERY close to female. it actually could be considered female. Like I said, it sounds like a lesbian talking or a little boy. Your voice still hasn't dropped so you still sound very young. If you tried raising it the slightest bit, you would most definitely, 100% sound female. You already basically do but you'd sound more like a preppy girl rather than a lesbian haha Which isn't bad if that's what you're going for.

Btw, the average female voice is about 220 Hz. So you're SUPER close to it. If you actually tried to sound like a girl you definitely could without even trying hard.
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: Blondie14 on November 28, 2014, 03:29:30 AM
Quote from: TSJasmine on November 28, 2014, 01:44:33 AM
Using praat, your voice averaged at about 210 Hz which is VERY close to female. it actually could be considered female. Like I said, it sounds like a lesbian talking or a little boy. Your voice still hasn't dropped so you still sound very young. If you tried raising it the slightest bit, you would most definitely, 100% sound female. You already basically do but you'd sound more like a preppy girl rather than a lesbian haha Which isn't bad if that's what you're going for.

Btw, the average female voice is about 240 Hz. So you're SUPER close to it. If you actually tried to sound like a girl you definitely could without even trying hard.


My voice is really high pitch in head. Which was my original voice in the second vid. My voice has dropped slight just not by a lot really. I added my head voice to the op.


I think I am a lesbian so that makes sense. I know my voice in head I think sounds higher than preppy more childish than mature I used it but I felt it's more nonserious voice.
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: sebster on November 28, 2014, 03:34:10 AM
Your voice is higher than my pre-T voice. Definitely female.
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: Blondie14 on November 28, 2014, 04:04:54 AM
Quote from: sebster on November 28, 2014, 03:34:10 AM
Your voice is higher than my pre-T voice. Definitely female.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: J441 on November 28, 2014, 05:08:21 AM
Yes. Very very passable :)
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: Blondie14 on November 28, 2014, 12:29:51 PM
Quote from: J441 on November 28, 2014, 05:08:21 AM
Yes. Very very passable :)

Thanks I'm a bit surprised because of the responses I got on the phone seemed ambiguous. Thank you.
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: TSJasmine on November 28, 2014, 01:15:12 PM
I never noticed a second link lol but in the second video you sound VERY female. That voice sounds exactly like a girl. Now, if you want to keep it like that, you need testosterone blockers & estrogen ASAP :)
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: jamesdoran on November 28, 2014, 01:28:02 PM
I talk on the phone all day, and if I heard you calling in (either voice) I would definitely register that it was a female caller. I actually like the first voice better...sounds more authentic.


No way I would ever call you sir!  :D
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: Blondie14 on November 28, 2014, 04:39:08 PM
Quote from: TSJasmine on November 28, 2014, 01:15:12 PM
I never noticed a second link lol but in the second video you sound VERY female. That voice sounds exactly like a girl. Now, if you want to keep it like that, you need testosterone blockers & estrogen ASAP :)

I am going to talk to my dr. about everything but will make an apt on Monday.
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: TSJasmine on November 28, 2014, 10:21:02 PM
Quote from: Blondie14 on November 28, 2014, 04:39:08 PM
I am going to talk to my dr. about everything but will make an apt on Monday.

Good luck :) If you can, start hormones ASAP. If I had started when I was 14, I would have been a lot happier than I am now. I still started kind of early I guess, but I was sadly genetically pre-disposed to not being a super small person :( If I'd started when I was 14 I would've been 100% passable rn & wouldn't have dealt with a lot of what I went through. Plus, a lot can happen in a few years, especially while you're going through puberty. So, if you can, stop puberty in its tracks & get on estrogen as soon as you can, cause testosterone blockers will stop facial hair & masculine facial features but won't stop you from getting taller. Only sex hormones will seal your growth plates. You might get lucky & just be pre-disposed to being tiny, but it would still help. Once again, good luck! & remember, NEVER stop being who you are for the comfort of others. If you're happy, don't listen to what anyone else thinks because they don't have to live your life. Always be true to who you are, & love & embrace yourself, even if others won't.
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: Arch on November 28, 2014, 10:59:37 PM
I'd go with the natural voice, not the head voice. One man's opinion...
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: Blondie14 on November 29, 2014, 07:57:55 AM
Quote from: jamesdoran on November 28, 2014, 01:28:02 PM
I talk on the phone all day, and if I heard you calling in (either voice) I would definitely register that it was a female caller. I actually like the first voice better...sounds more authentic.


No way I would ever call you sir!  :D

Yeah I get quite a few that stick ma'am as well thanks
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: Blondie14 on November 30, 2014, 12:13:16 AM
Quote from: TSJasmine on November 28, 2014, 10:21:02 PM
Good luck :) If you can, start hormones ASAP. If I had started when I was 14, I would have been a lot happier than I am now. I still started kind of early I guess, but I was sadly genetically pre-disposed to not being a super small person :( If I'd started when I was 14 I would've been 100% passable rn & wouldn't have dealt with a lot of what I went through. Plus, a lot can happen in a few years, especially while you're going through puberty. So, if you can, stop puberty in its tracks & get on estrogen as soon as you can, cause testosterone blockers will stop facial hair & masculine facial features but won't stop you from getting taller. Only sex hormones will seal your growth plates. You might get lucky & just be pre-disposed to being tiny, but it would still help. Once again, good luck! & remember, NEVER stop being who you are for the comfort of others. If you're happy, don't listen to what anyone else thinks because they don't have to live your life. Always be true to who you are, & love & embrace yourself, even if others won't.

Thanks
I'm not that small I'm actually on the bigger side... I'm 5'9". Most of my family are like mesomorphs. I tend to be tall and skinny and have feminine curves which is why I.can be confused for fenale at times but if I get too talk thelat would be too hard to do.
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: Skeptoid on November 30, 2014, 12:45:56 AM
Lesbians don't automatically have lower voices and straight girls don't have to sound high...
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: TSJasmine on November 30, 2014, 01:28:54 AM
Quote from: Blondie14 on November 30, 2014, 12:13:16 AM
Thanks
I'm not that small I'm actually on the bigger side... I'm 5'9". Most of my family are like mesomorphs. I tend to be tall and skinny and have feminine curves which is why I.can be confused for fenale at times but if I get too talk thelat would be too hard to do.

Yeah, you definitely want to talk to a doctor soon. A male at 14 is usually nowhere near finished growing. I was 5'5"-5'6" when I was 14 & got to 5'8" by 16  :-\ Be persistent & don't hold back! I wish I would've stayed searching when I was 14 :( The only advice I can give you is what I wish I would've done.

Quote from: Skeptoid on November 30, 2014, 12:45:56 AM
Lesbians don't automatically have lower voices and straight girls don't have to sound high...

This is very true. Sorry for stereotyping $: I tend to do it a lot & it usually doesn't end well.. gotta stop doing that.
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: Blondie14 on November 30, 2014, 07:44:56 AM
Quote from: TSJasmine on November 30, 2014, 01:28:54 AM
Yeah, you definitely want to talk to a doctor soon. A male at 14 is usually nowhere near finished growing. I was 5'5"-5'6" when I was 14 & got to 5'8" by 16  :-\ Be persistent & don't hold back! I wish I would've stayed searching when I was 14 :( The only advice I can give you is what I wish I would've done.

This is very true. Sorry for stereotyping $: I tend to do it a lot & it usually doesn't end well.. gotta stop doing that.

Yeah I am Swedish and some Dutch so the average guy is about 6ft or a little more by adulthood. IF I'm like 6ft1 if be ok with that currently any taller would be hard to be passable. I may also have a specific intersex condition because I was looking up the symptoms and I've got pretty much each symptom except breasts growth. If so then I'll probably be taller than that which I guess not much I can do about that.
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: divineintervention on November 30, 2014, 08:34:36 AM
I like your natural voice!

Could you give some opinion on my voice?

Morning voice: https://soundcloud.com/divineinter/audio-recording-on-monday
Normal voice: https://soundcloud.com/divineinter/audio-recording-on-monday-1


I pass over the phone but would just like some feedback C: Thanks
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: Blondie14 on November 30, 2014, 09:25:59 AM
Quote from: divineintervention on November 30, 2014, 08:34:36 AM
I like your natural voice!

Could you give some opinion on my voice?

Morning voice: https://soundcloud.com/divineinter/audio-recording-on-monday
Normal voice: https://soundcloud.com/divineinter/audio-recording-on-monday-1


I pass over the phone but would just like some feedback C: Thanks

I like your normal voice. You definitely pass.
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: sebster on November 30, 2014, 05:51:17 PM
Quote from: Blondie14 on November 30, 2014, 07:44:56 AM
Yeah I am Swedish and some Dutch so the average guy is about 6ft or a little more by adulthood. IF I'm like 6ft1 if be ok with that currently any taller would be hard to be passable. I may also have a specific intersex condition because I was looking up the symptoms and ivegad pretty much each symptom except breasts growth. If so then I'll probably be taller than that which I guess not much I can do about that.

There's nothing wrong with being a tall girl! You're going to be gorgeous: whether it's runway model gorgeous or ballerina gorgeous is out of your control, so don't worry about it. I hope you have an easy time of getting on the blockers and oestrogen.
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: Blondie14 on December 03, 2014, 04:18:35 AM
Quote from: Hanazono on December 01, 2014, 08:54:17 PM
You do sound female in both! Although your head voice is really really cute. I suppose even cis female before puberty sound like that

I actually sounded that way normally before I hit puberty. When I hit puberty I started talking in my chest.
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: Blondie14 on December 03, 2014, 04:20:12 AM
Quote from: sebster on November 30, 2014, 05:51:17 PM
There's nothing wrong with being a tall girl! You're going to be gorgeous: whether it's runway model gorgeous or ballerina gorgeous is out of your control, so don't worry about it. I hope you have an easy time of getting on the blockers and oestrogen.

Thank you I have to talk to my dr first then try to get therapy but have to worry about the situation of my parents but I got first step done since I have an appointment on Friday now
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: ImagineKate on December 03, 2014, 01:08:09 PM
Quote from: Blondie14 on November 27, 2014, 06:06:25 PM
I always get a mix of sir or ma'am sometimes on the same call with my normal voice. I have a head voice as well which people just say sounds female? I think but I'm going to add it later as well. Also I was reading about range and Hz? And was wondering where I'd end up?


https://vimeo.com/m/113052699


Here's my head voice or female voice.

https://vimeo.com/m/113061748

First one sounds like an authentic female voice and is really good.

The second one, hmm. Sounds like you ingested some helium... it sounds a bit artificial. I think the first one would pass better.
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: ImagineKate on December 03, 2014, 01:11:22 PM
Quote from: divineintervention on November 30, 2014, 08:34:36 AM
I like your natural voice!

Could you give some opinion on my voice?

Morning voice: https://soundcloud.com/divineinter/audio-recording-on-monday
Normal voice: https://soundcloud.com/divineinter/audio-recording-on-monday-1


I pass over the phone but would just like some feedback C: Thanks

They sound pretty good, but the vocal fry tends to throw me off a bit. I like "Normal" better.

Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: ImagineKate on December 03, 2014, 01:14:07 PM
Quote from: Blondie14 on November 30, 2014, 12:13:16 AM
Thanks
I'm not that small I'm actually on the bigger side... I'm 5'9". Most of my family are like mesomorphs. I tend to be tall and skinny and have feminine curves which is why I.can be confused for fenale at times but if I get too talk thelat would be too hard to do.

Puberty can be cruel. I looked and sounded like a girl up until I was about 12. Face shape and everything was like my mom. Pictures gender on rekognition and pictriev consistently female. If it wasn't for the clothes I wore and hairstyle I would look like a girl. Then puberty and T hit and bam, it was like someone beat me with the ugly stick, and I'm still recovering. :(
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: Blondie14 on December 04, 2014, 12:23:32 PM
Quote from: ImagineKate on December 03, 2014, 01:11:22 PM
They sound pretty good, but the vocal fry tends to throw me off a bit. I like "Normal" better.

What's the vocal fry?
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: ImagineKate on December 04, 2014, 01:09:16 PM

Quote from: Blondie14 on December 04, 2014, 12:23:32 PM
What's the vocal fry?

Think Kim kardashian when she talks lower. It's kind of a granular sound.
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: Blondie14 on December 04, 2014, 08:58:44 PM
Quote from: ImagineKate on December 03, 2014, 01:14:07 PM
Puberty can be cruel. I looked and sounded like a girl up until I was about 12. Face shape and everything was like my mom. Pictures gender on rekognition and pictriev consistently female. If it wasn't for the clothes I wore and hairstyle I would look like a girl. Then puberty and T hit and bam, it was like someone beat me with the ugly stick, and I'm still recovering. :(

I am 14 and have started puberty but it's not really that bad. It has been mostly female. Like I got taller but I also got wider hips and a more feminine face and long legs. I'm very skinny as well so I haven't gained in muscle or fat. But where I hold my weight is in my thighs mainly and somewhat my butt. I have a feminine figure I just am very tall and skinny.
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: ImagineKate on December 09, 2014, 12:46:25 PM
Vocal fry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txSSO4VglMI
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: Blondie14 on December 09, 2014, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: ImagineKate on December 09, 2014, 12:46:25 PM
Vocal fry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txSSO4VglMI


I read your post wrong I thought you were talking to me lol
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: emilyking on December 21, 2014, 11:09:56 AM
Both are pretty good.  However there very monotone.
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: Blondie14 on December 21, 2014, 07:56:56 PM
Quote from: Emily King on December 21, 2014, 11:09:56 AM
Both are pretty good.  However there very monotone.
Is that a bad thing?

If I don't sound monotone I sound really low. I talk a lot lower irl as I said in the vid. I try to steady my voice just to not sound too nervous.
Title: Re: Is my natural voice passable?
Post by: emilyking on December 21, 2014, 10:06:42 PM
Quote from: Blondie14 on December 21, 2014, 07:56:56 PM
Is that a bad thing?

If I don't sound monotone I sound really low. I talk a lot lower irl as I said in the vid. I try to steady my voice just to not sound too nervous.
Females, in general raise and lower their voice when they speak (think like a valley girl voice.).
Try watching YouTube videos of girls around your age.  Use headphones or ear buds, it helps to hear more details.

But it's not necessarily a bad thing. :-)