http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcyxvuNOQXo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcyxvuNOQXo)
Here's another link with the same annoying interviewer who questioned Brassard. This time she's talking to an Aussie who transitioned young and then had regrets. Warning: some of the stuff he says might get you more than a teensy bit pissed off!
ciao,
Gina M.
As I said on a different thread regarding transsexual regrets. I have no empathy for people like him. I'd not hesitate a single second to help lock him up in a white room. Come on! with all the information available today, the therapy sessions, the real life test, the Harry Benjamin Standards, the DSM, you really have to be completely crazy to go through all this and then change your mind. Sorry but that is just what I think.
tink :icon_chick:
P.S. Of course, if you are not a woman, you are never going to feel like one...duh!
And he even has the audacity to blame the surgeon...what a nut case! >:( Okay I'd better stop now...
How can you hold someone else responsible for this kind of mistake? Of course I can only speak from my experience. No one told me that I needed surgery for heavens sake. I was telling them! I demanded it.
If I were the judge, I'd throw it out. What a nut case.
I must say that he looked good in a skirt!
Cindi
Well my dander is really up now. How can someone be sued for a misdiagnosis when all of the standards were followed? I think this is just a money making publicity stunt.
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I don't want to look at the video either. You are responsible for your own
well-being not your therapist or GRS surgeon. I don't have any pity for people who claim they didnt know what they were getting into to avoid responsibility.
Quote from: Nichole W. on August 21, 2007, 11:18:59 PM
Living the life of another well is a bad business. Living ones own, even poorly, is a much healthier tactic to employ.
Nichole
Thank you for this pearl of wisdom. :eusa_clap:
LL&R
Maebh
That particular documentary, embarrassingly enough, is by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. It was an absolute disaster, the entire documentary.
Alan Finch, which they fail to mention, was rejected for gender reassignment the first time. He then studied the answers to the questions and re-took the test, then was approved. His regrets are entirely and consciously of his own doing.
The other part of the documentary was a young fellow named Ayden. It was called "Becoming Ayden". They misrepresented a whole lot of his story as well.
And there's an interview with Brassard, where he's quoted out of context.
It was a completely awful show, done in 2004 I think. Unfortunately just before my transition, and aired nationally. Gah.
Dennis
My God I hope this foolishness does not come to the states. I begged for mine for so many years. It has been heart wrenching. In 1 1/2 months I will know. They should stitch a dog penis to him and tell him to go away.
Deb
Oh Debi, you kill me! That is funny.
After all the medical care, the therapist sessions, the real life test, and real life test, the decision is ultimately ours. There are bound to be a few who get through to surgery. Apparently, this is one. Surgeons ultimately must trust our self diagnosis to a large degree.
Cindi
Cindi
You are the sweetiest thing. You always have something nice to say.
deb
Posted on: August 22, 2007, 11:49:55 AM
That is all he deserves. Anything more he would be a man again.
Deb
Most of us have suffered all of our lives to accomplish our god given right to be the right sex. We don't need some goof ball to upset the apple cart. Usually all it takes is one bad apple to set things in motion for changes to the statis quo. He had his chance and he blew it. It is his fault. Shame on him.
Deb
Ok! Ok you got me there.
I have nothing against doggies. Give him sewed on chicken neck. Chickens always come with the neck stuffed in a cavity from the grocery.
Makes sense to me
Deb
Funny girl!
He would have a genuine pecker. They wring the chickens neck so it goes limp. That is all he deserves is a limp thingie.
Deb
shouldn't anyone contemplate the pros and cons before the big day? something smells fishy. ::)
I just watched it and boy did it make my blood boil. >:( I live in Australia and to think that some moron is trying to sue a surgeon who was doing his job as per instruction is just sickening! He looked fantastic might I add, as a female, so what went wrong is anybody's guess. I can't believe a lawyer would take the case up, I'm sure the aggrieved person signed all the relative forms, documentation,and had done all the psyche tests etc...so how the hell he can sue, is beyond me!
All I can say is that he is setting everything back for everyone else. It's bad enough that ignorant people say TS people are confused and need to be pitied rather than helped, I just wish I knew what his real agenda is?
Might I add that he is definitely not Australian, he is an Englishman who resides in Melbourne, Australia, so I'm not sure whether he had the procedure done here or in England? ??? [Edit] Watched it again and he did have it done here, probably immigrated for that reason??? So alot of thought did go into it? I'm even more confused now! LOL
Buttercup :)
Quote from: buttercup on August 22, 2007, 07:20:54 PM
I live in Australia and to think that some moron is trying to sue a surgeon who was doing his job as per instruction is just sickening! He looked fantastic might I add, as a female, so what went wrong is anybody's guess.
I hear ya. He was (because he isn't anymore) beautiful, totally passable and seemed to have the good life. What went wrong you ask? Well, he is the perfect example of a "so called transsexual" who transitions and has SRS for the wrong reasons. If you are not a woman, the worst thing you can do is to attempt to live your life as one and have SRS on top of everything else. ::)
tink :icon_chick:
Quote from: debisl on August 22, 2007, 01:55:42 PM
Funny girl!
He would have a genuine pecker. They wring the chickens neck so it goes limp. That is all he deserves is a limp thingie.
Deb
I think they should sew bells between his legs and make him sing "My Dingaling" for bringing this suit.
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I did a case search of Australian case law. The suit was filed in May 2004. There was an application by him to extend the limitation period, which was successful, in late 2004. The medical clinic appealed it. The appeal was lost, so he was permitted to sue, that was May 2005. I can't find any disposition of the case at all. Anyone have any idea what happened?
Oh, and by the way, on his application and appeal, he claimed not to have become aware of the assessment that labelled him more masculine than average until 1996, long after the surgery. Dunno which is true. His evidence does not appear to have been tested.
Dennis
Dog penises and chicken necks?!
Perhaps I am alone here, but I think this is exactly the sort of story we need to hear more of.
While I may not agree with his legal action, his views and experience are still valid.
If there's one thing that this video showed, it is the huge responsibility that we all MUST take. To proceed with safety and ensure we are fully informed.
We owe it to ourselves to be aware of all possibilities and opinions. I'd go as far to say that videos such as this should be made compulsory viewing for all people preparing for transition.
-Lala :icon_chick:
Quote from: space_kat on August 22, 2007, 11:22:26 PM
Dog penises and chicken necks?!
Perhaps I am alone here, but I think this is exactly the sort of story we need to hear more of.
While I may not agree with his legal action, his views and experience are still valid.
If there's one thing that this video showed, it is the huge responsibility that we all MUST take. To proceed with safety and ensure we are fully informed.
We owe it to ourselves to be aware of all possibilities and opinions. I'd go as far to say that videos such as this should be made compulsory viewing for all people preparing for transition.
-Lala :icon_chick:
I have no problem with his
story. What I have a problem with is that he's suing others for his own bad choices.
Dennis
I've watched this video in the past. He tried to put down his surgeon until the very end of the documentary I watched. If someone expects that surgery puts on the Ritz for themselves, they have another thing coming. The way I see it, he knew what he was getting into, all he has to do now is to put that in his pipe and smoke it! He's just a very mad individual who needs mental help quickly.
I agree with what space_kat said, that it is a good thing to hear from someone who made the wrong decision. I started to write something about how huge a deal transitioning was, and how it has to be made with care, and realized that most of you know that far better than I do. I'll try to say what I'm thinking without making a fool of myself.
As someone about to open the door on my transition (knock on wood) I made a point of going out to look for stories like this. I have doubts, as I'm sure everyone does, and I think it can be a very good thing to see the consequences of inadequate screening/therapy/whatever. That being said, most of what I found is like this video: a piece that seems to be aimed at a crowd that wants to hear that a mtf transsexual can never be a real man, or never be a real woman, instead of holding this man up as an example of why there should be many procedures, double-checking and safeguards in place. Many accounts are aimed at religious groups, which can make things even more hurtful.
This is probably opening up a different can of worms, but things like this are why I feel uncomfortable reading about programs starting children on hormones at a very young age (pre-teens). I would have benefited immensely, as I'm sure many of you would have, but I think the decision is so critical that I'm not sure a child can really be trusted to make it. I realize some of the treatments aren't permanent, they simply postpone puberty and give the person more time to decide, but in any case, I think it's a valid comparison to the video.
From a purely emotional perspective, seeing someone transition for the wrong reasons and be so passable/beautiful while many people with the best of reasons are never so lucky makes my heart ache at unfairness of it all.
Sorry for the long post, I post often, so I tend to be verbose when I do.
To me, all it is is religious propaganda! CBC News. Isn't that a Christian Broadcasting Network? Too bad that this person doesn't realize that he is being manipulated by the right wing media to support their "Agenda".
Quote from: space_kat on August 22, 2007, 11:22:26 PM
-Lala :icon_chick:
:icon_wave: :) I greatly miss your perspective on many topics around here. I hope that your post count increases to more than two. :icon_hug:
La unica Tink :icon_chick:
Quote from: Tink on August 23, 2007, 08:50:51 PM
Quote from: space_kat on August 22, 2007, 11:22:26 PM
-Lala :icon_chick:
:icon_wave: :) I greatly miss your perspective on many topics around here. I hope that your post count increases to more than two. :icon_hug:
La unica Tink :icon_chick:
agreed. You were a life force around here. Really miss your outspokenness and strong opinions. :icon_hug:
Show your face around here more often. :)
Quote from: regina on August 23, 2007, 10:29:38 PM
Quote from: Jonni on August 23, 2007, 08:46:59 PM
To me, all it is is religious propaganda! CBC News. Isn't that a Christian Broadcasting Network? Too bad that this person doesn't realize that he is being manipulated by the right wing media to support their "Agenda".
It's Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. I think he's capable of doing his own self-delusions without the help of born-again types. He made some very painful choices in his life that he, unfortunately, doesn't want to take responsibility for. Lots of us do that in our lives. As has been mentioned, what makes him hard to listen to is how he blames people who were trying to help him and who did nothing wrong other than listen to what he was telling them.
ciao,
Gina M.
You beat me to it, Gina. This story notwithstanding, CBC is anything but right wing.
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Yeah, usually CBC puts on good, balanced stuff. It's certainly not right wing. This "documentary" is an exception to their usual good coverage.
Dennis
QuoteRe: Sex Change Regrets
::)
Mental case!
I wish I had not seen the video. I'm so pissed right now, I won't be able to sleep for a while.
I wish someone puts a bullet through his head.
Let's just sue the waiter for serving me food even though I'm 400 pounds. The waiter should of known better.
Freakin' moron.
This whole situation is a sad commentary on the way that the press grabs issues such as these and sensationalizes them. There are several side to all stories yet in this particular case they chose only to report one side. There are several parts missing that if known would probably reveal the true issues surrounding this case.
One key question that needs to be asked is what support system did this person have? Was this person in therapy and if so how did this person "Slip though the cracks"? Did this person have a support system in place? Etc. It is easy for folks to tell the therapist what they want to hear, all one would need to do is to research boards such as this one and they could get a very clear idea about what a therapist needs to know in order for them to provide a diagnosis.
This puts the therapist in a very precarious position, for if they are not competent in gender issues misdiagnosis, as in this case, could easily occur. This a very good example of why it is so important for those who feel that they have "Gender" issues, to seek competent therapy. While there are many who think that they are a "Woman trapped in a man's body", there may be significant underlying issues that may reveal or point towards other conditions that would preclude a diagnosis of GID.
There is no doubt that the mind is a very powerful entity but at times it is easily manipulated, swayed, convinced that black is actually white, white is black, I am the lord reincarnate, I am the chosen one etc. (You get my drift). This tragic situation should reinforce to all those who are "questioning their gender" need to seek competent help.
Often in our zeal to be "Who we know we are" many often push forward with the notion that "I know what's best for me" and being fallible beings, we clearly know that this is not always the case. One needs only to look at the bad habits that we develop over time sure we know what's best but we still do them.
I was no different. Who are they to tell me what or what I'm not, it's my life to live as I think or want it to be. If we are honest with ourselves we would agree that professional help should be sought when considering the notion of gender change.
That being said, we all have to take responsibility for our actions. This person was obviously reckless in making the ones they did, and now expects compensation. She was also under the notion that SRS/GRS would cure her. I'm afraid not, the surgery does not cure us it simply makes our bodies more congruent with our minds. GID is incurable.
Yep it's too bad these things get reported and make the front page or get TV coverage, but it should reinforce the need to educate all those concerned and Susan's is one place for that.
Steph
Someone who lacks a sense of responsibility & cannot accept his errors. It wouldnt surprise me if he had circumvented the system to have genital reconstruction. What a toad!
I don't think that this person should win at all. He obviously falsified who he was, whether it was intentionally or not. I have known two people who have regretted the surgery. I know for one that he did it because of the group he hung around. I guess he liked the transexual lifestyle and wanted to fit in. He went through all the steps, knew what to say, was very good looking and he fooled them all. Well, the joke was on him. It took a few years and he finally confessed to himself. The crowd went their own way and he was not part of the group anymore. Sadly he had irreversible surgery. He went off to some place back east (US) to live as a man again.
Sheila