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Title: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: Emily R on January 28, 2015, 02:45:24 PM
This is when you first started kissing, touching and up to sex, regardless if you already knew or not that you were in a body with the wrong gender. 

My therapist asked me this question and my answer was that I started kissing and touching at 17, sex at 19.  Too late?

How about you?

Emily
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: CaptFido87 on January 28, 2015, 02:51:42 PM
uhh lets see: kissing... and sex.... Holding hands:24.... uh yea.... :embarrassed:
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: IAmDariaQuinn on January 28, 2015, 03:12:28 PM
I knew I wanted to be with girls since I was, like, 4 or 5.  Like, really, really, REALLY early.  I never had the "girls have cooties" phase.  I even had what you could call sexual dreams as early as 7.  Well, as sexual as a 7 year old would have, which is really just kissing and cuddling with naked girls.  I wouldn't really get the whole "penetration" part of sex until I was about 12, which is also when I started masturbating. 

I never actually had a chance to be with a girl until I was 20.  My first kiss, my first and only partner, and she was, quite frankly, the single worst person I have ever known.  I tried to get with girls in school, but they all thought I was weird.  I had gal pals in middle school I could hang out with, but it got weird when I developed feelings for a few of them.  Others just thought it was weird that a boy wouldn't have guy friends.  High School?  I might as well had ebola, or something.  No one wanted anything to do with me, socially, sexually, you name it.

My virginity felt like an albatross around my neck, a curse I couldn't wait to be rid of.  Because boys were nothing if they're virgins.  They're jokes.  And I was trying so hard to prove I was a boy, back then, and here it is, one more sign of failure.  So I hooked up with this girl that honestly repulsed me, who was thoughtless, selfish, mean, manipulative, and a constant liar.  And I let myself stay with her because I wanted so bad to be rid of this curse.  Because, I think I had to have sex to be able to prove I was a "man" somehow.  And she would do everything she could to undermine any sense of manhood I ever had, because i was never enough "man" for her. 

Did your therapist say that was "too late"?  Because I know mine was late. I don't know if it was "too late", but it was later in life than most claim to have their first kiss, at least.  Not for a lack of trying, though.  If I could have at 7, I would have.  I sure as hell did try.
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: suzifrommd on January 28, 2015, 03:39:32 PM
First encounter was the summer I turned 15.

Didn't know I was trans, but I did start wishing that I had the parts she had instead of the ones I had.
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: ainsley on January 28, 2015, 03:52:52 PM
Started kissing girls in 4th grade, and first intercourse at 13.  Always had a steady girlfriend after that.
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: zog on January 28, 2015, 04:05:02 PM
28. Pre-hormones, but it wouldn't have been possible before I had woken up to my trans identity.

Still haven't had sex at 30 and I'm not planning on doing it any time soon. Aside from the fact that I don't have potential mates for that, I also am quite nervous about the intensity of the prospect. Therefore I don't want to do it unless the right context, circumstance and mutual understanding of the situation is there. I didn't develop sexuality until I went on hormones, so I wasn't interested before. Now it's this annoying thing looming over my head. I would've rathered I'd stayed not interested.
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: Jill F on January 28, 2015, 04:07:03 PM
Age 6.  I guess I really wanted to know what I was missing!
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: big kim on January 28, 2015, 04:34:03 PM
First kissed a girl at 14 and lost my virginity(the first time) at 18 during the interval in the Sweeney(it was a great show and I didn't want to miss it)videos weren't around in the mid  70s
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: Jo-is-amazing on January 28, 2015, 04:35:16 PM
I still haven't kissed anyone yet....I'm more than a little behind :)
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: sonson on January 28, 2015, 04:44:46 PM
kissed a girl at 21, never had sex at all

i always had a fear of getting too close and intimate, i didnt really know why. I think I do now though....
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: Carrie Liz on January 28, 2015, 04:48:03 PM
Uh.........

First kiss? Age 21. (Unless you count the cute childish kiss I had with my best friend when I was like 8. :P )

Intimate touching? Age 22.

Sex? Never. It would have made me feel like I was violating a perfect beautiful person with my disguting unholy anatomy. She wanted to do it... for like 4 years straight she was pushing me into it because she wanted to. But I couldn't do it. Any time that our "intimacy" involved her touching me instead of the other way around, it just did nothing for me. So needless to say, I don't think it's going to happen until I've sent my current defective anatomy back to the genital store and bought new ones that don't stick out. :P
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: Emily R on January 28, 2015, 04:50:06 PM
Hi Daria,

No, she did not said that it was late, as she is not like that.   During the session I made a comment of someone that had referred as something with my body not being  "normal" and she jump and said that  "he should not have made that comment"    I liked  her comment and attitude!.

Although she did not expressed it I do believe that she felt that for a non transgendered boy kissing and petting for the first time at 17 was kind of old, now of course I am and have been trans all of my life.   But I am reading between the lines,

Emily
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: V M on January 28, 2015, 05:12:15 PM
I think I was around 14, but it was more my elder sister's friends messing about with me  8)  I certainly learned allot as they even let me drive the cars they'd gotten for their sweet 16 birthdays

It all started after my mom got remarried and we moved to a newer neighborhood and the friends from the old neighborhood would visit, I was sitting on the edge of my bed muckin' about with my guitar (For some reason I was trying to imitate the chirping sounds of the wild birds that would light in the tree outside my window)

Anyway I looked up and noticed one of my sister's friends standing naked in front of a mirror in my sister's room which was kitty corner to mine and much to my surprise she turned and smiled at me

Things just kinda happened from there
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: Hikari on January 28, 2015, 06:02:53 PM
I am very odd I suppose, I mean my first kiss on the lips with a girl was around 11 IIRC, but the first time I actually honest to goodness made out with someone was when I was 16, the first time I actually had sex with someone came long before that at 13.....I had all sorts of wrong ideas then. I guess it kinda messed me up because I didn't have sex again till I was 16 (with the person I was making out with).

I used to use my attraction to girls as a shield to try and convince myself I wasn't trans. I would try and justify that clearly I didn't want to be a woman because I wasn't interested in men, like clearly every woman is straight lol. Eventually it got to be too much for me to deal with and I gave into the understanding that I had known but been afraid of tackling for a long time that I was in fact a woman and whoever I was attracted to had nothing to do with that.

I am still attracted to other women,  but I am secure in my sexuality and my gender identity now :)
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: stephaniec on January 28, 2015, 06:22:47 PM
18 with a girl and if you count a butt kiss with a guy at 12.
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: justpat on January 28, 2015, 07:00:55 PM
    At 14 I was seduced by a girl,willingly, but it never felt right even though I was quite busy.Things changed when I went to SE Asia where I met a lot of professional ladies and they clued me in on who I really was.Validation of my feelings so to speak. From then on I lead a dual life till I melted down. 
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: Zoetrope on January 28, 2015, 07:17:22 PM
I was 19. Spent 15 years in long term relationships with girls afterward, trying to be a man. I didn't realise I was trans until later - had it all repressed - but I always found the male role ... disorientating, put it that way.

Now Im single, identifying androgynous and pansexual, and open to suggestions (~:
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: Lady_Oracle on January 28, 2015, 07:28:03 PM
Didn't have sex up until last year and I'm 24 lol soo yeah after about 4 to years into my transition. I just wasn't comfortable with myself before transition but I'm glad I waited, it was worth it.

Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: alexbb on January 28, 2015, 07:36:30 PM
"I was 19. Spent 15 years in long term relationships with girls afterward, trying to be a man. I didn't realise I was trans until later - had it all repressed - but I always found the male role ... disorientating, put it that way."

snap me too! 19.
but i sadly went to university and acted like a slut, thought sleeping with girls made me a man, loved it and a few of them and so felt a lot of internal turmoil about having to be a fake person with them and imagine i was a girl too to get off, slept with as many girls as i could and a guy but was still trans,
Much happier now! For the first time Im beginning to allow myself to imagine maybe being a parent one day...
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: amber roskamp on January 28, 2015, 07:45:26 PM
The first girl I kissed was when I was 5. She was my first "girlfriend" lol. Like a 5 year knew what that meant.  But I didn't have any luck in high school. I was trigger shy. List my virginity when I wad 21 to a girl. Its kinda funny because she came out as a lesbian after we dated.
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: Jill F on January 28, 2015, 07:48:35 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on January 28, 2015, 07:45:26 PM
The first girl I kissed was when I was 5. She was my first "girlfriend" lol. Like a 5 year knew what that meant.  But I didn't have any luck in high school. I was trigger shy. List my virginity when I wad 21 to a girl. Its kinda funny because she came out as a lesbian after we dated.

I fooled around with quite a few lesbians and bisexual girls in high school and college and have had an inordinate number of lesbian friends.  Now I think I know why.
Title: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: ImagineKate on January 28, 2015, 08:05:09 PM
Fooling around? 22. Second base. I married her. Divorced her a year and half later. Lotsa issues with her. Crazy woman. Cried in bed a lot. We never could really get romantic. She didn't like my height either. She said she was a Virgin. She was 6 months older.

Prior to that I had one serious girlfriend who was 16 and I was 20 (legal and actually pretty common where I lived). We never could get romantic as her mom would shadow us. Never got beyond hand holding. She's married to a doctor now. We are friends now. We broke up after carnival .

All through school... Nothing. I never could make the first move. I wanted the girl to do that! Hmm. I went to a boys school. Kinda hard to date girls there.

College? I had one girl from Bangladesh who was all over me. Couldn't bring myself to be with her. She had a hot body and was kinda cute but I just wasn't interested.  Around that time I met my wife at work and she made the first move. I lost my virginity to her and we got married a few years later.

From 18-22 I had plenty of girlfriends but they were girlfriends in the sense like how a woman has girlfriends. We would go out clubbing and they would meet guys and I would talk with girls. I had a pretty good social life, very well politically connected so I got invited to a lot of exclusive social events and had VIP status at nightclubs. Met a lot of women who were well connected and interesting and well off but all I could manage was the friend zone. It wasn't them, with alcohol it was actually quite easy to get them in bed, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. See, I had a conscience and wanted to get married first.
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: amber roskamp on January 28, 2015, 08:42:07 PM
Quote from: Jill F on January 28, 2015, 07:48:35 PM
I fooled around with quite a few lesbians and bisexual girls in high school and college and have had an inordinate number of lesbian friends.  Now I think I know why.

I think it's cuz lesbians are awesome lol  ;)
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: alexbb on January 28, 2015, 10:07:56 PM
^true
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: Mai on January 28, 2015, 10:47:48 PM
first girlfriend wasnt till 19, and its cause she asked me out.  and while we slept together never had sex, and she ended up cheating on me cause of it after a year.
2nd girlfriend i finally asked out, took over 7 years of knowing her as a close friend before managing to ask her out, and we just went from close friends to closer friends but nothing really happened other than cuddling and dating.
3rd girlfriend once again asked me out and was an online relationship and never ended up going anywhere.

now at 25, most ive done is kissing and cuddling.
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: DanielleA on January 28, 2015, 11:00:37 PM
Back when I was in year one and two I had a girlfriend called Penny. We used to kiss behind the bus stop after school :). Since then though I have kissed and been intimate with several people (of both genders). But sexual actions involving my body are and always have been off the table until I have had reassignment. I am 24 yro.
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: big kim on January 29, 2015, 01:49:31 AM
Quote from: Jill F on January 28, 2015, 07:48:35 PM
I fooled around with quite a few lesbians and bisexual girls in high school and college and have had an inordinate number of lesbian friends.  Now I think I know why.
I found out long after I left school that Sandra (who later came out as a lesbian) had a crush on me.I was engaged to a bi girl in my early 20s and left desperately sad when she binned me
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: Rudy King on January 29, 2015, 09:57:18 AM
FYI: I'm IS.

I've never been with a girl.  I was not attracted to them. Of course, I've never been with a boy ether, yet.
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: noleen111 on January 29, 2015, 10:16:25 AM
As a man - only into girls

My first kiss.. I was 14... with a girl

I lost my virginity  at 17.. to the girl I was dating at the time.. (she never knew i loved to wear skirts) lol

as a woman.. bi-sexual at first now a straight woman

My first kiss - 23 with a guy..
My first sexual experience with a woman 24
my first experience with a guy suppose i lost my virginity again.. (my boyfriend) as a post op woman 24

To have had sex as both sexes allows me to compare the experiences... I prefer sex as a woman... The orgasm are amazing as you feel them all over your body.. and to feel him inside me is amazing.. and I dont mind been at the bottom
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: Heather on January 29, 2015, 10:41:15 AM
Let see first kiss around 13/14 lost my virginity around 16. I just remember hearing guys talking about sex making you a man. I found out quickly that was no truth to that. To be honest I kinda was hoping it would work. Kinda avoided relationships after that until I transitioned.
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: silentone on January 29, 2015, 10:45:24 AM
I had my first kiss at 15. I am a virgin.
Title: Re: At what age did you start fooling around with girls?
Post by: Emmaleigh on January 31, 2015, 02:47:56 PM
My earliest memories go back to 4 or so. The girl my age next door was my very best friend. Playing doctor with her I learned her parts were way better than mine. We moved, I played kiddie 'sex games' with other girls my age in the new neighborhood. I chased Sandy all over the 1st grade school yard, until she very publicly put me in my place. By 3rd grade, I knew wasn't really fitting in anywhere, and just closed everybody out - but I oh-so-very-much wanted to be with the girls, I just didn't have the right whatever it was I needed - wasn't girl enough, wasn't boy enough. We moved every 2 years or so, so I had no permanency anyway, and 'loner' just became natural, and girls were just something I dreamed & masturbated about, until 10th grade high school. My first-ever-really-serious girlfriend took me under her wing and taught me to kiss. God, she was good, I learned so much about kissing from her! Sex was a year later, with a slightly older girl - I was very bad at it, despite all the how-to & fiction reading I had done - Masters & Johnson, Everything You Ever Wanted to Know, Story of O, and many many others (apparently my parents were more liberated than I thought LOL). After that, a long string - I mean, I love women, everything about them, and Ive always wanted to be them. So what better way to get as close to that desire/need as possible while still denying that's what I wanted? Not that my performance as a "penis" ever really amounted to much, but the rest was pretty good.
Maybe that's all a little TMI, but I didn't see any limitations....