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Community Conversation => Non-binary talk => Topic started by: makipu on February 02, 2015, 08:42:35 AM

Title: Would you have any complaints if you were cis?(nonbinary only)
Post by: makipu on February 02, 2015, 08:42:35 AM
For ftm or mtf who ALSO identify as nonbinary (in terms of expression/presentation), would you have any complaints if you were to born cis? 
For a quick example, I identify as male but am completely nonbinary (with anything that's gender related actually) so even if I were to be born with a penis, I wouldn't change the way I behaved or dressed.  (I would most likely be made fun of more since the world is ignorant about male beauty) So my biggest complaint would be the facial hair (I hate all body hair but facial hair is unacceptable for me) and I would definitely pursue some sort of laser hair removal and treatment for male baldness pattern. 
Title: Re: Would you have any complaints if you were cis?(nonbinary only)
Post by: Sammy on February 02, 2015, 09:18:34 AM
If I am understanding Your question correctly, makipu, You want to now if we would have any complaints if born cis - in gender opposite to our birth gender? Which would make me a genetic girl. Ahem. I dunno, but I guess I would not have led life in total and complete denial (which turned out to be quite eventful and adventurous one), which in its turn would not have allowed for my "male" part to develop that strong. So, maybe not, no complaints :) - just those usual nice things (and crap) with which cis-females have to deal in their life without constantly overthinking stuff on making decisions.
Last one I had to make was either to bite my tongue and suck it up or grab some drunkard's collar and throw him out on the next bus stop - if anyone wonders what the decision was... nobody got hurt, but I was very tempted. 
Title: Re: Would you have any complaints if you were cis?(nonbinary only)
Post by: JulieBlair on February 02, 2015, 10:27:52 AM
Sigh, If I was born a gg I wonder?  Living a woman is a joy to me, but would I be willing to sacrifice all that I learned, experienced, loved living as a man?  In my more lucid moments I think I would not.  There is much about my old life that was meaningful and helpful to me.  There is more that was painful and lost.

Today I live as I ought to and must.  He is still there, but in a quieter way, if he had never existed I would not be me.  I may have lived a more happy and successful life, and I may have not.  What is clear is that if I had not sought to live authentically, and for me that means transition, something vital and important would have died.  I would have ceased to seek color and joy and shrunk into a husk of self pity, and despair.

Peace,
Julie
Title: Re: Would you have any complaints if you were cis?(nonbinary only)
Post by: suzifrommd on February 02, 2015, 11:20:50 AM
I would LOVE to be a cis female. I hate the fact that my male body costs me so much money and pain. It really has nothing to do with being non-binary. That's an internal thing. I want everyone to see me as a female.
Title: Re: Would you have any complaints if you were cis?(nonbinary only)
Post by: Ptero on February 02, 2015, 12:23:34 PM
I can't imagine what would have been to be MAAB. I think I would have the same problems with gender norms or secondary sexual characteristics (facial hair and stuffs)
I suppose it would be less painful regarding my relation with my body but more painful socially. I mean, I can cross-dress without people saying anything (most of the time) or being violent towards me (most of the time). But as society makes a hierarchy "female < male", it would raise much more comments if I'd dress feminine while being MAAB.

But perhaps the fact people would have had more reactions towards my behavior would have obliged me to realize sooner that I couldn't keep for myself all these destructing feelings and that I should act.