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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: padester on March 02, 2015, 11:04:54 AM

Title: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: padester on March 02, 2015, 11:04:54 AM
Hello!

I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on what books would be good to read to get a better understanding of trangender - the individuals' experiences, the science behind it, treatment, etc - just some good basic places to begin to get an understanding.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: adrian on March 02, 2015, 12:25:41 PM
Hi there!

Welcome :) I think a good place to start is Susan's! The forums are full of experiences and knowledge, lots of wisdom here :).

In terms of books I liked Nick Krieger's "Nina here nor there" (it's an autobiography). I also think Sam Killerman's "A Guide to Gender: The Social Justice Advocate's Handbook" is a great introduction to gender and trans* identities in general.
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: Dee Marshall on March 02, 2015, 12:26:30 PM
"Conundrum" by Jan Morris is a good start although it's a bit dated and rooted in the "standard" background that so many if us don't fit.
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: padester on March 02, 2015, 12:30:40 PM
Thanks for the suggestions!  :)

Dee Walker - what do you mean by 'the "standard" background that so many if us don't fit?' I am very new to trying to understand all of this, so don't know what you are referencing.

Any other thoughts??
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: adrian on March 02, 2015, 12:36:42 PM
Quote from: padester on March 02, 2015, 12:30:40 PM
Thanks for the suggestions!  :)

Dee Walker - what do you mean by 'the "standard" background that so many if us don't fit?' I am very new to trying to understand all of this, so don't know what you are referencing.

Any other thoughts??
Dee will correct me if I get it wrong, but I think this may refer to the "standard narrative" according to which a trans*person inevitably "always knew" they were trans* from earliest childhood on. This is true for many of us, but many (me included) discover this only later in life.
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: suzifrommd on March 02, 2015, 01:09:12 PM
I found "Whipping Girl" by Julia Serrano a very enlightening, independent take on the transgender experience.
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: Asche on March 02, 2015, 01:27:19 PM
I don't know if this is what Dee Walker is talking about, but from what I've seen, the "standard narrative" includes:

- "I am a man in a woman's body"/"I am a woman in a man's body"
- Knowing from an early age
- Conforming closely to the expected presentation and preferences of the target gender.

Basically, what gatekeepers have usually looked for before signing off on medical transition steps.
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: padester on March 02, 2015, 01:38:38 PM
Thanks for the clarification! I will look into these books, and would love other suggestions!
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: Dee Marshall on March 02, 2015, 01:53:27 PM
I can never remember "standard narrative", probably because the concept infuriates me!
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: adrian on March 02, 2015, 02:14:19 PM
Quote from: Dee Walker on March 02, 2015, 01:53:27 PM
I can never remember "standard narrative", probably because the concept infuriates me!
Oh my! I didn't mean to infuriate you [emoji15]
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: Dee Marshall on March 02, 2015, 03:21:20 PM
Quote from: adrian on March 02, 2015, 02:14:19 PM
Oh my! I didn't mean to infuriate you [emoji15]
You didn't. "Standard narrative" does. It keeps too many of us from realizing the truth for too long, along with "guy in a dress".
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: Rachel on March 02, 2015, 07:02:06 PM
A good book is "She's not there" by Jennifer Boyland.
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: padester on March 02, 2015, 07:07:03 PM
Thanks, people! I have 3 of them in my Amazon cart and got 2 for the kindle (Social Justice and She's not there - they were both on sale!).

Keep the suggestions coming! :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: AnonyMs on March 02, 2015, 07:45:39 PM
I've read a few books, but I find here and YouTube to be far more informative. There's quite a number of blogs as well that I've read when I'm looking for something about SRS. Each format has its own strengths and weaknesses, but as a whole I've found it far more useful than any of the books I've read. I quite enjoyed the books though, so I'm not saying there's no point.
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: adrian on March 03, 2015, 12:21:59 AM
Quote from: Dee Walker on March 02, 2015, 03:21:20 PM
You didn't. "Standard narrative" does. It keeps too many of us from realizing the truth for too long, along with "guy in a dress".
That's very true. That's why it's so important to get our stories out there!

Sorry for the off-topic OP!
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: YoungZep on March 03, 2015, 03:08:12 AM
Oh i wish I remember the name, ill have to get it later this week, but my therapist said she will give me a book next visit about a fully transition mtf who transition later in life. I guess a bit of inspiration and research for me. I lucked out with such a good therapist!
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: cindy16 on March 03, 2015, 06:39:09 AM
I'll add two suggestions here:
1.) Far from the Tree by Andrew Solomon. The entire book is about how families deal with a family member who is 'different' in some way or the other, and it has a big chapter on transgenders. It is reassuring in the end, but can get really depressing in some parts (at least it was to me).
2.) Crossing: A Memoir by Deirdre McCloskey. This is still on my to read list, so I don't have an opinion on it yet.
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: Dee Marshall on March 03, 2015, 06:56:21 AM
I was trying to remember "Far from the Tree". My therapist recommended it last spring. Excellent. Only covers children, though.
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: darkblade on March 03, 2015, 06:59:02 AM
 I liked The Testosterone Files by Max Wolf Valerio, he wrote it over 12 years and his focus was essentially on the changes that come with being on T.
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: padester on March 03, 2015, 09:46:13 AM
You guys are great. Thanks for all the suggestions! I have been enjoying the one on Social Justice - it is written in a very readable manner, so that it goes quickly but with a good amount of information. Haven't started the other yet. Will stack all of these in my amazon cart for when I get the time to check them out!

Any more suggestions are also welcome!
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: adrian on March 03, 2015, 10:33:28 AM
I'm glad you're enjoying the book!
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: Robyn37 on March 03, 2015, 11:26:44 AM
I thought "True Selves: Understanding Transsexualism" was a good way to get a basic understanding. It is difficult because everyone's experience is different, but I thought this book gave a pretty good description of everything going on. I ordered a couple copies for my parents when I came out to them, and it gave them a good basis to ask me questions in order to understand my own circumstances. I would recommend this to anyone wanting to know more about transsexualism.
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: sweenykeehan on March 05, 2015, 05:49:52 PM
"refuse" and "show trans" are really good!
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: padester on March 08, 2015, 07:56:38 PM
Thanks again! All of these look interesting. Will keep checking them out!
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: Eveline on March 08, 2015, 08:21:18 PM
I enjoyed Redefining Realness by Janet Mock - a very engaging memoir from a relatively recent teen transitioner and woman of color.
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: ChiGirl on March 08, 2015, 08:29:53 PM
True Selves is a great guide book, but it does feel a little dated when reading.  Keeping in mind it was first written in 1996 and then updated from there, it's very informative.

I'd like to read some of the children's books, like "I am Jazz" and "Be Who You Are."
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: Rotika on March 09, 2015, 01:35:35 PM
Quote from: padester on March 02, 2015, 11:04:54 AM
Hello!

I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on what books would be good to read to get a better understanding of trangender - the individuals' experiences, the science behind it, treatment, etc - just some good basic places to begin to get an understanding.

Thanks!

Umm. if you're into anime comics at all. I love these :)

http://jocelynsamara.deviantart.com/art/RAIN-p-1-Prologue-1-187851377
http://www.venusenvycomic.com/index.php?id=2
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: padester on March 09, 2015, 04:33:13 PM
Quote from: Rotika on March 09, 2015, 01:35:35 PM
Umm. if you're into anime comics at all. I love these :)

http://jocelynsamara.deviantart.com/art/RAIN-p-1-Prologue-1-187851377
http://www.venusenvycomic.com/index.php?id=2

So - the Deviant Art one looks really cool, but I can't figure out how to move from one page to the next without skipping lots of pages - is there a way to download the whole book?
Title: Re: Suggestions for books to read?
Post by: Christy82 on March 09, 2015, 09:13:34 PM
Quote from: padester on March 09, 2015, 04:33:13 PM
So - the Deviant Art one looks really cool, but I can't figure out how to move from one page to the next without skipping lots of pages - is there a way to download the whole book?

If you look below the pic, in the description and above the comments there is prev and next links.
might have to click on a page on the right to get it to show.