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Title: Tucking
Post by: April Lee on March 03, 2015, 09:06:48 AM
This didn't become an issue until my latest clothing purchases. I have worn bikini panties, and always have had either leggings or tights on top of that. Although rather hot in the summer, that seemed to work. But I have now bought some super tight body conscious pencil skirts because they show off the curves of my lower body, which is my most feminine feature, so I want to emphasize it a little. Unfortunately a big bulge now shows in between my legs. Yuck! I am really ignorant on this subject.
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: suzifrommd on March 03, 2015, 09:10:35 AM
I used two pairs of panties, about a size or two too tight. I'd work the boys into the inguinal canal and then point the shaft backward parallel to the ground. The two pairs of panties kept everything in place.
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: ImagineKate on March 03, 2015, 09:20:20 AM
The shrinkage from HRT makes it really easy now... I can even wear a two piece swimsuit.
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: StrykerXIII on March 03, 2015, 09:22:42 AM
Quote from: suzifrommd on March 03, 2015, 09:10:35 AM
I used two pairs of panties, about a size or two too tight. I'd work the boys into the inguinal canal and then point the shaft backward parallel to the ground. The two pairs of panties kept everything in place.

I'd been wondering how to keep those things out of sight. Sounds like it could be painful over long periods of time though...
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: Kellam on March 03, 2015, 09:25:32 AM
I have found panties made for joggers etc. to be helpful in this regard. They tend to be made of firmer material. Also, moisture wicking and odor control features are common. I have gotten good stuff from the outdoor retailers REI and EMS.
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: mac1 on March 03, 2015, 09:47:45 AM
Quote from: suzifrommd on March 03, 2015, 09:10:35 AM
I used two pairs of panties, about a size or two too tight. I'd work the boys into the inguinal canal and then point the shaft backward parallel to the ground. The two pairs of panties kept everything in place.
Panties will only hold them in place if they have rather firm control.
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: suzifrommd on March 03, 2015, 09:48:09 AM
Quote from: StrykerXIII on March 03, 2015, 09:22:42 AM
I'd been wondering how to keep those things out of sight. Sounds like it could be painful over long periods of time though...

It was at first. Only took a couple months on spiro before I had sufficient shrinkage that I didn't even notice.
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: Christine Eryn on March 03, 2015, 03:06:16 PM
I'll just add gaffs really aren't necessary, to me at least. I wasted money on one even though panties will do. It also helps what outerwear you have. Things like skinny jeans help pull everything up. I still have a good amount of "hardware" down there even after years of HRT.
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: serenityfaith on March 03, 2015, 03:27:28 PM
Quote from: StrykerXIII on March 03, 2015, 09:22:42 AM
I'd been wondering how to keep those things out of sight. Sounds like it could be painful over long periods of time though...

Oh dear god yes it is, not to mention how moist everything gets (moist-HATE THAT WORD) but yeah, its not exactly easy. I for one just stick to cute and comfy sweats now, occasionally I wear jeans, but only with a low draping top or big hoodie, The day I can wear a bikini to the beach I will probably cry with absolute joy.
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: serenityfaith on March 03, 2015, 03:28:43 PM
Quote from: Kellam on March 03, 2015, 09:25:32 AM
I have found panties made for joggers etc. to be helpful in this regard. They tend to be made of firmer material. Also, moisture wicking and odor control features are common. I have gotten good stuff from the outdoor retailers REI and EMS.
Interesting Kellam! will definately check that out!
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: serenityfaith on March 03, 2015, 03:36:57 PM
Quote from: Christine Eryn on March 03, 2015, 03:06:16 PM
I'll just add gaffs really aren't necessary, to me at least. I wasted money on one even though panties will do. It also helps what outerwear you have. Things like skinny jeans help pull everything up. I still have a good amount of "hardware" down there even after years of HRT.
You and I both chica! I dont see my hardware going anywhere from pills, how could a tiny pill get rid of such a huge burden? BTW LOVE THE AVATAR PIC!! FABULOUS :) Back on topic: gaffs tend to cut to much into my buttcheeks but don't really smooth the frontal region for me.. I stick to just panties too. No need to waste money on something that doesn't really work and sits so high on your waist you feel like you've been zapped into the 60's.
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: mmmmm on March 03, 2015, 04:16:18 PM
I use medical/surgery tape like this... 5cm/2inch wide
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I actually prefer it over kinesiology tape, I have less hassle with aranging it how I prefer. I lay one longer stripe on the table, and 2 little shorter stripes on each side of it, in kind of triangular shape. Then I turn it around, with the sticky side up, and put in the middle a smaller triangular shape, which I precut from paper wipes/towel (thin,soft), just to make shure I keep my skin material unharmed for SRS. One thing to make shure when before using medical tape is, to be shaved in the area regularly, unless you're one of those people who have a thing for pain. I don't. It's very cheap, especially compared to kinesiology tape, and you get it in every pharmacy. I always carry a smaller one (not 5 cm) with me in bag, so I can easily rearrange things if something goes wrong with the original arrangement when on toilet. I tried other solutions, none of them except kinesio tape worked well enough. I wear leggings like all the time (I don't remember when I wore jeans the last time) or I wear a dress, which are also kind of revealing of any anatomical anomalies. So this is kind of a must for me... until I get my surgery
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: Ravensong on March 04, 2015, 09:23:34 AM
One trick I learned was to use a maxi pad in your panties.  It helps to smooth out the front.  As I am, unfortunately, a bit endowed, and the parts tend to want to shift on me, I've had a hard time staying tucked.  With a pad, I stay tucked just fine, without a noticeable bulge.  I'm still pre-hrt at this point, btw.
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: Kacie Lynne on March 04, 2015, 09:59:58 AM
I have tried the tape method and for myself i dont like it,
seems alot of time and trouble to do what i can do in seconds ,
what i do is use panties in a smaller size then leggings over them
and that works for me and if its warm outside then i have a few
controll top hose that i cut the legs off and use them over the
panties and then i wear my shorts and its all good.
what works for one may or may not work for others but its an idea
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: Obfuskatie on March 04, 2015, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: StrykerXIII on March 03, 2015, 09:22:42 AM
I'd been wondering how to keep those things out of sight. Sounds like it could be painful over long periods of time though...
The painful part comes from things being too tight, or using tape (during removal), or when aroused while tucking.

HRT shrinkage is mostly testicular.  The corpus cavernosa of the penis doesn't go away, however the scrotal sack may reduce in size over a longer period of time.  After having an Orchiectomy, the scrotal sack tends to contract in size dramatically of time.

I don't bother with a gaff either, but I usually wear boy-short panties that have enough material to keep everything in place.  I don't really like wearing them too tight, but the looser they are the less they keep in place.  The problem is that the tighter your panties are, the more you are going to create an artificial muffin-top.  Still, I predominantly wear pants unless I'm relaxing at home in a skort, or dressing up for something where I have to look a bit more fancy.  And pants keep everything situated better.

I think it's kinda funny that my panty drawer is filled mostly of boy-short panties because of how much I hated being a boy, but love the panty style.
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: Ravensong on March 04, 2015, 11:21:00 AM
I haven't tried the hose idea yet, Kacey, I'll give it a shot.

Obfuskatie, what boyshorts do you wear?  I like the style, but they are among the worst for actually holding me in, even though I see many women having success with them.
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: Tori on March 05, 2015, 12:19:51 AM
I wear shaping panties, about a size too small. They are plenty rugged enough to keep things in place with a simple, backwards tuck.

I rarely concern myself with the inguinal canal.

I will tuck for certain types of pants and skirts, but often enough, I just forgo tucking. I have shrunk from HRT like I just swam the polar bear in North Dakota.
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: natalie19 on March 05, 2015, 12:54:17 AM
If I had to wear a bathing suit I usually stick to the boy short type a size too small.  I'm fairly long there too so I usually tape, but don't get the tape wet, I've had that happen only once. I avoid swim suits now lol. But for every day I usually tape, it's the only way that I can be certain that no hint of a bulge will show. I do wish it shrank with HRT but I think it's gotten larger. Odd how the effects are so different.

Thanks
Nat
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: michelle666 on March 05, 2015, 08:45:51 AM
Quote from: Ravensong on March 04, 2015, 09:23:34 AM
One trick I learned was to use a maxi pad in your panties.  It helps to smooth out the front.  As I am, unfortunately, a bit endowed, and the parts tend to want to shift on me, I've had a hard time staying tucked.  With a pad, I stay tucked just fine, without a noticeable bulge.  I'm still pre-hrt at this point, btw.

I use a pad also, just a thin one to smooth everything out. I am far from well endowed so nothing shifts and the pad actually keeps things nicely in place.
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: becoming gianna on March 05, 2015, 01:40:09 PM
I dont tuck on the regular as i still present as male at my job, but when i do, i use the 2 panties method. It used to hurt esp if i got aroused, but thats virtually never a problem now that im 5 mos into hrt. Guess i got lucky, i was a grower not a shower and the boys were small to start with. Now the lower horn just stays small and mostly retracted and the boys have to be coaxed down. I generally dont tuck bc even though i sit, its too much to do and undo in the mens room. Either way, the bulge isnt much of an issue unless im wearing something tight.
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: antonia on March 05, 2015, 01:54:16 PM
I usually use a gaff or gstring, pop the boys up into the cavities, then back with the banana and wrap the excess skin around it. Then a pair of control panties on top (the kind without a seam), this way I can wear what ever I want, including yoga pants, skirts etc :)

Be careful when taping, it used to tear at my skin until I got sores, I never use it anymore :(
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: Obfuskatie on March 05, 2015, 02:14:02 PM

Quote from: Ravensong on March 04, 2015, 11:21:00 AM
I haven't tried the hose idea yet, Kacey, I'll give it a shot.

Obfuskatie, what boyshorts do you wear?  I like the style, but they are among the worst for actually holding me in, even though I see many women having success with them.

I've tried several styles, I like the maidenform ones a lot.  My Tommy Hilfiger ones tend to ride up, which can be obnoxious.  Essentially you want to look for seamless panties with some stretch and buy a size smaller to have a tighter fit.  Moisture-wicking is also super awesome at keeping it from getting too moist in your nethers.  Don't go for too tight too long, it hurts and it's bad for your skin. 
I comfortably fit a size 5 in most styles, and sometimes small or 4 that stretches, depending on the brand.  I have very little in the butt department however, #WhiteGirlProblems. [emoji23]


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Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: becoming gianna on March 05, 2015, 04:35:56 PM
Yeah, a pad def helps with moisture and chafing between the legs
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: serenityfaith on March 05, 2015, 10:35:25 PM
Quote from: antonia on March 05, 2015, 01:54:16 PM
I usually use a gaff or gstring, pop the boys up into the cavities, then back with the banana and wrap the excess skin around it. Then a pair of control panties on top (the kind without a seam), this way I can wear what ever I want, including yoga pants, skirts etc :)

Be careful when taping, it used to tear at my skin until I got sores, I never use it anymore :(

Could that hurt you? Anatomys not my forte but it seems like something could get twisted or stuck..? :/
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: natalie19 on March 05, 2015, 11:09:15 PM
Tucking is one of those things that we just have to do. Love it or hate it.  It will get to a point where tucking will be as routine as putting on your shoes. I usually tape, but if I'm wearing jeans or something loose fitting I just tuck it back with no tape and let my panties hold everything in place. I've been on hormones for quite a while and tucking in the testes gets easier as they shrink a bit on hrt.  I have Trans girlfriends who are very small and they don't have much to tuck and that can cause problems too. I am quite cursed? Gifted? Depending on your perspective and my testes are very atrophied from t blockers so tucking for me has its challenges but over the years I can tuck in almost anything. Hang in there, it does get easier. Also don't stay tucked all the time,  at home I keep everything up front but for some who are dysphoric this may be difficult.

Thanks,
Nat
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: antonia on March 06, 2015, 09:31:08 AM
I think this is actually one of the most used methods and it's totally safe, we actually have cavities in our abdomen for our testies, that's where they start life and if you have ever gotten really cold that's where they go (everything down there shrinks until they almost get pulled into those spaces).

Overall I found the risk of getting hurt from taping a much bigger issue.


Quote from: serenityfaith on March 05, 2015, 10:35:25 PM
Could that hurt you? Anatomys not my forte but it seems like something could get twisted or stuck..? :/
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: ItsYoureNotYour on March 06, 2015, 01:49:47 PM
Cut a sock in half, the strap off a boxer, and put together. Learned from YouTube, the only thing that works for me.
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: Christine Eryn on March 08, 2015, 02:13:29 PM
Quote from: serenityfaith on March 03, 2015, 03:36:57 PM
You and I both chica! I dont see my hardware going anywhere from pills, how could a tiny pill get rid of such a huge burden? BTW LOVE THE AVATAR PIC!! FABULOUS :) Back on topic: gaffs tend to cut to much into my buttcheeks but don't really smooth the frontal region for me.. I stick to just panties too. No need to waste money on something that doesn't really work and sits so high on your waist you feel like you've been zapped into the 60's.

Thanks, gorgeous!  :-*  I will also add the more you do it, the more it becomes a routine. I'm wearing my skinny jeans more and more in public since I am going full time within the next few months.
Title: Re: Tucking
Post by: CollieLass on March 08, 2015, 03:53:17 PM
Quote from: serenityfaith on March 05, 2015, 10:35:25 PM
Could that hurt you? Anatomys not my forte but it seems like something could get twisted or stuck..? :/

Erm, yes it can! :embarrassed:

Many years back when I was pre-GRS {on long-term Androcur and after years of 'taping' and wearing tight girdles} I suffered a testicular torsion, a really nasty experience: with them becoming hugely swollen, agonisingly painful and ultimately requiring emergency bilateral orchidectomy........Oddly, that experience {effectively} did me an endocrine kindness, but the pain experienced as the testicles 'died' by strangulation of the blood supply (Ischemia), was truly horrid.