I'm not usually one to question medical articles by asking others about personal experiences, or people they may know of, but here I go.
I'm curious, is there any way you may be able to have Peri-areolar (Or another similar procedure) top surgery done to larger breasts, with multiple procedures?
Sadly I'm pretty cursed with a big chest, but I'd love to have what some men in our community have, which is being able to eventually take off their shirt and see a flat chest with minimal scarring.
So I'd feel stupid not to at least ask, if there's anyone out there who've had multiple procedures to have C, or even D sized chests brought down without double incision or inverted T procedures' scarring occurring. (I worry I wont have well healed scars like some guys do since the last few surgeries I've had from broken bones have resulted in very prominent scars years later, regardless of how much effort I've put into the aftercare.)
It's pretty unlikely that this is doable from everything I've read on the procedures' techniques, but just in case I'd like to be sure by asking you awesome guys what you've seen. Who knows, maybe I'll find a few people who know of other cases where this could be an option to discuss with specific surgeons?
Noting of course, if my option by the time I go to get top surgery truly is only double incision, then I'll still gladly have the procedure done. But I would like to explore any possibility that other men have found they could work out.
When you finally getto surgery, just know that there are ways to help minimize your scars, one of which is vitamin e oil. when rubbed into the scars they become less noticable. Talk to your surgeon about your concerns about scars, he may recommend this or some other post-surgical option.
Personally, I already sport a long scar down my back and don't care if I have more, they are simply a testimony of my personal history.
Of course, there is always the option of covering the scars with Tattoos! (I am undecided between a sword or a nice zipper over the back.)
You know, I'm really looking forward to designing my tattoos. I have my full back, and shoulders figured out, and some stomach/sleeve designs concepted, but I don't know what to put on my chest. I'm still figuring that out. :D
It wont be the end of the world at all, or even that big of an issue if I have scars...But it would be nice to not have them, since even using special vitamin e creams daily never really helped my scars.
i've never heard of it being done with multiple procedures, but it wouldn't hurt to ask during a consultation. i think what you're talking about would be something like breast reduction and then "top surgery" in a later procedure (i hope that makes sense, i've been awake a long time haha). i know breast reduction still leaves scars that are sort of like the inverted T procedure, so i would guess not.
all i know is i'm a B cup and i've had two consultations and they both said i had to have DI because of the shape of my chest (which is weird, but ok). so it's really more of a case by case thing.
I had the peri done with multiple procedures. I was a c-cup initially and I had 3 surgeries. I have some pics on transbucket if you're interested in seeing the results
I'm borderline in size cup-wise, but my overall dimensions led to DI being the best option for me in my surgeon's opinion. I'm going with Dr. Fischer and she was very open to doing whatever procedure I would like. She told me that if we went with peri, she could foresee at least one revision in my future. We also discussed doing the peri with a lateral extension into the armpit area to take out additional tissue. Again, she thought this would also need a revision. DI was the only procedure she felt confidently about achieving the best results for me with one go at it. I like the scarring of the peri with lateral extensions, but it looks much less natural than the DI.
While cup size is the main factor being considered, it definitely isn't the only factor. Only a surgeon is going to be able to give you all of the available options, but it doesn't hurt to go into consultations with some ideas about what could potentially be done.
Quote from: ftmax on March 14, 2015, 12:25:10 PM
I like the scarring of the peri with lateral extensions, but it looks much less natural than the DI.
I have to disagree on that, this is my chest and I don't know if that makes me think it looks natural because it's mine but I like to think it looks pretty natural. And I have friends that have had the peri too and their chest also looks very natural to me.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi451.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fqq239%2Fvilda08%2Fbroumlstkorg1.jpg&hash=bd1b1235cdd077f617506b164a8c18e68e6cd361) (http://s451.photobucket.com/user/vilda08/media/broumlstkorg1.jpg.html)
One of my nipples is slightly bigger than the other but not enough for me to get a revision done, not at this time in my life atleast
You have so much hair you wouldn't see DI scars if you had them.
Quote from: Alexthecat on March 14, 2015, 07:12:20 PM
You have so much hair you wouldn't see DI scars if you had them.
How is that even relevant? Are you implying that im lying about the procedure I have had done or something?
I don't think Alex was trying to imply you were lying at all Mackan, I think it was more along the lines of a general observation, that it might not stand out as much if you had that other procedure done instead.
Either way, you look good! And serious grats on the bodyhair growth, most of the men I know can only dream of that. :D
I'd love to see your transbucket if you're willing to send me the link! I'm definitely interested in exploring all of my options regarding these surgeries, and your results look damn good to me.
Mackan, you are one seriously hairy dude. :)
From one with no hair, btw.
Anyway to answer the OP, yes pretty much, in fact, I've heard that B can be way too big and really peri-areolar is more for someone with very small chesticles and also very elastic skin. There are reasons to do DI even with an A cup (for instance very large nipples and areola).
I suppose it's remotely possible. There's a guy doing gynecomastia surgeries in two procedures. His technique is completely different. That's the only multi-procedure guy I've heard of. It's a completely different procedure, and not at all what you are talking about.
--Jay
Quote from: Mackan on March 14, 2015, 05:13:46 PM
I have to disagree on that, this is my chest and I don't know if that makes me think it looks natural because it's mine but I like to think it looks pretty natural. And I have friends that have had the peri too and their chest also looks very natural to me.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi451.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fqq239%2Fvilda08%2Fbroumlstkorg1.jpg&hash=bd1b1235cdd077f617506b164a8c18e68e6cd361) (http://s451.photobucket.com/user/vilda08/media/broumlstkorg1.jpg.html)
One of my nipples is slightly bigger than the other but not enough for me to get a revision done, not at this time in my life atleast
I know you had peri done - do you have lateral scars extending into the armpit area? I seriously can't tell because of the hair. That's the specific procedure I'm referencing, not just periareolar.
IMO, the specific procedure I mentioned looks less natural. The scarring doesn't follow the line of the musculature in the chest. I also can't think of any procedures that mimic or closely resemble the scarring that would be a convenient excuse for stealth guys.
Thanks for the compliments guys !
I'm at work right now but ill look up the transbucket link as soon as I get home.
Ftmax, no I have no scars extending to the armpit area, I only have scars around my nipples. 1st surgery they took out 250 hg of breast tissue on one side and 210 on the other, second surgery they removed excess skin and 50 hg of fat and some left over breast tissue from each side. The third and final surgery they removed some skin and made the nipples smaller. That's all in all, I choose this procedure because I wanted as minimal scarring as possible.
Quote from: LoriLorenz on March 14, 2015, 03:48:28 AM
When you finally getto surgery, just know that there are ways to help minimize your scars, one of which is vitamin e oil. when rubbed into the scars they become less noticable.
Just make sure that your scars are fully healed before using vitamin e oil, otherwise it can lead to scar stretching. skylarkeleven talks about it halfway though his video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD6wgua2lR8
I am having a peri procedure done and I am on the lower end of a C cup. My doctor feels confident that the surgery will turn out and he has performed this type of procedure on guys with chests this size before. Sometimes I feel worried that I will have saggy skin or something and it will look weird, but I'm putting my trust in him and I will definitely be making posts about how it is healing and looking.
Quote from: birkin on March 15, 2015, 11:32:03 PM
I am having a peri procedure done and I am on the lower end of a C cup. My doctor feels confident that the surgery will turn out and he has performed this type of procedure on guys with chests this size before. Sometimes I feel worried that I will have saggy skin or something and it will look weird, but I'm putting my trust in him and I will definitely be making posts about how it is healing and looking.
Interesting, birkin. Can I ask who your surgeon is?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi451.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fqq239%2Fvilda08%2F1391691597-dsc01278.jpg&hash=56d24e9b585aca04d3eb3476c0329b5d23ac03fb) (http://s451.photobucket.com/user/vilda08/media/1391691597-dsc01278.jpg.html)
This is what the scars around the nipples look like up close.
And here's the link on transbucket as I promised http://www.transbucket.com/pins/13440#.VQ2Ou46G98E
dont mean to be crass here but....not if you dont want your chest looking like complete s***
I know of a surgeon who has done it on C or D cup guys but their results are terrible. I cant give names or pictures for privacy reasons but can give u the name of the surgeon in private message if u want....but trust me the scars will look better if you get DI than the results of Peri on a large chest
Quote from: Mackan on March 14, 2015, 05:13:46 PM
I have to disagree on that, this is my chest and I don't know if that makes me think it looks natural because it's mine but I like to think it looks pretty natural. And I have friends that have had the peri too and their chest also looks very natural to me.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi451.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fqq239%2Fvilda08%2Fbroumlstkorg1.jpg&hash=bd1b1235cdd077f617506b164a8c18e68e6cd361) (http://s451.photobucket.com/user/vilda08/media/broumlstkorg1.jpg.html)
One of my nipples is slightly bigger than the other but not enough for me to get a revision done, not at this time in my life atleast
No offense but i cant even see what your chest looks like with all that hair. Maybe shave it off and show us a picture? Body hair can cover up a lot
Well it's kind of offensive telling someone to shave their chest for a picture. I mean if you need to say "no offense", it usually is one. I don't think I can get a real clear view of his chest but I think I'm sort of jealous of that much body hair. :) That's a prodigious chest!
--Jay
Quote from: AleksiJason on March 22, 2015, 04:12:26 PM
No offense but i cant even see what your chest looks like with all that hair. Maybe shave it off and show us a picture? Body hair can cover up a lot
I'm agreed with Jay on this one, that hair is meant to be adored and worshipped, not shaved! Besides, there is a close up of his areola and you get a good sense, even with all the hair. If you need more pictures, look up "periareolar chest surgery after pictures" and you'll find a lot of good shots on google.
That's what I aspire to do man. I'm a full B and I could probably try to get one successful peri done but I'm more confident in getting liposuction and a lift done first, then going in for Peri procedure. That's just my preference, it's what I feel will give me the best result.
that wasnt my point
he posted that pic to show a comparison between the surgery he got and DI
but we cant see the difference if his entire chest is covered by hair
not criticizing the hair itself as i would love to be that hairy
but you cant use that pic to compare types of surgery if you cant see his chest
i wasnt knocking the hair i was just pointing out we cant see what his chest looks like and therefor cant use it to compare the different surgery methods
i think his body hair looks awesome but cannot judge what his chest looks like or whether the results look better or more realistic than a DI which is the original question and reason for him posting it
I've seen very hairy chested guys and their chests looks totally different when they shave their body hair
i was a small B cup or large A cup prior to surgery but went with DI because i felt the results were more CONSISTENTLY good.
i mean ive see great peri results, bad peri results, great DI and bad DI results but the percentage for success in my opinion is much higher with DI as it gives the surgeon more control over the results
one thing i dont like about peri is a lot of results i see it looks like the chest/nipples are too far down on the torso
I have pics of my chest without hair, but they are right after surgery. I have never shaved my chest and never will, I also have a couple of friends like I said that have had the same procedure. The peri in my opinion looks more natural because there's not a scar going across you're chest and the nipples are left like they are and the only thing the do with them is make the areola smaller. And also there's no dog ears with the peri.
But! One more thing is in order for the peri to look natural and be as "perfect" as can be it needs to be done in at least 2 stages or more (mine was three stages) and my surgeon even said that. Some guys in my country have had even more surgeries (4-5) so that they could have the peri because they don't want any scarring to give them away
I'm not gonna shave my chest hair and I really couldn't care less if some people think it looks like sh** to have all that hair, my genes gave me that and I'm keeping it. I have been abroad numerous times and went to beach parties and so on and met people up close with no shirt on and no one has NEVER ever commented on my chest , not in drunk state or in sober. That's good enough validation for me that my chest looks natural.
all im saying is ive seen trans guys with very hairy chests like yours and it hides what the chest really looks like.....cause ive seen them with their chests hairy and smooth shaved and it looks like 2 completely different chests.....its good to have a lot of chest hair though because it hides flaws and scars...from the difference ive seen between a hairy post op chest vs shaved it always looks way better hairy
Quote from: AleksiJason on March 23, 2015, 09:14:54 AM
all im saying is ive seen trans guys with very hairy chests like yours and it hides what the chest really looks like.....cause ive seen them with their chests hairy and smooth shaved and it looks like 2 completely different chests.....its good to have a lot of chest hair though because it hides flaws and scars...from the difference ive seen between a hairy post op chest vs shaved it always looks way better hairy
Okay well for me there isnt much to hide since I only have scars around my nipples, that arent very thick to begin with so my chest hair really isn't in the way of seeing the results you can beleve me on that.
The guys I've seen who were C cups or larger and went through peri (through 2 or 3 operations) all came out with a lot of lumpy tissue left over. Even if the hair isnt hiding scars it can be hiding excess tissue. Not saying you have it but there is no way to know with all that hair and if u havent shaved since surgery no way for you to know either. Just saying its not a good picture as a comparison of different types of surgery results. Your body hair is awesome wish i had that much just cant tell by the picture what your chest actually looks like underneath
I do know a guy who had a C chest. He was talked into a peri. It was totally inappropriate and the guy has had 4 revisions. The final "revision" gave him a DI. He would have better off with a DI to begin with.
--Jay
unfortunately i think some surgeons are selfish and might wanna "experiment" on doing Peri on larger chested guys.....hoping they will get it "right" and get amazing results and become well known for the surgeon who can do Peri on big chested guys.
or the surgeons want to gain experience with doing Peri on big chested guys hoping some day they will be able to do it well and be well known for it and get more business.....this is all at the patient's expense (both money but more importantly, sacrificing their satisfaction with their post op chests)
i really think that is the only reason some surgeons would push large chested guys into Peri for selfish reasons only and as an experiment.....its just plain wrong
i know a few guys on FB who were bigger guys who were talked into peri by their surgeons who they trusted and even after 2 or 3 surgeries are not happy with the results
That's what I felt about this guy I know. The guy is no longer doing peris on bigger guys, so perhaps he realized this doesn't work out so well without more than one revision.
--Jay
Quote from: AleksiJason on March 23, 2015, 06:41:32 PM
unfortunately i think some surgeons are selfish and might wanna "experiment" on doing Peri on larger chested guys.....hoping they will get it "right" and get amazing results and become well known for the surgeon who can do Peri on big chested guys.
or the surgeons want to gain experience with doing Peri on big chested guys hoping some day they will be able to do it well and be well known for it and get more business.....this is all at the patient's expense (both money but more importantly, sacrificing their satisfaction with their post op chests)
i really think that is the only reason some surgeons would push large chested guys into Peri for selfish reasons only and as an experiment.....its just plain wrong
i know a few guys on FB who were bigger guys who were talked into peri by their surgeons who they trusted and even after 2 or 3 surgeries are not happy with the results
The whole cup thing is confusing me because isn't it more of a ratio of chest size compared to the band size? So someone who is 32DDD for example is equivalent to someone who is 38C. So idk if it would be just cup size that factors into it.
Quote from: DarkWolf_7 on March 24, 2015, 10:25:27 AM
The whole cup thing is confusing me because isn't it more of a ratio of chest size compared to the band size? So someone who is 32DDD for example is equivalent to someone who is 38C. So idk if it would be just cup size that factors into it.
The number is the circumference of the bust. So someone at a 38" bust is a little thicker through the torso than someone at a 32" bust. I don't think this number matters as much, or at all, with surgery because they aren't really altering it. If they are making any adjustments, it's just making the line between upper chest and mid-lower torso more even with some additional lipo.
Cup size is a relationship, so that 32DDD is not not equal in any way to 38 C or something. It's something like under the breast and across it. You would have a LOT more trouble binding at 32DDD.
--Jay