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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Post operative life => Topic started by: Ellesmira the Duck on March 18, 2015, 05:58:43 PM

Title: Post op, condoms and STD's...I have a question.
Post by: Ellesmira the Duck on March 18, 2015, 05:58:43 PM
So, I have a question for my post op girls here though anyone who had some insight is perfectly welcome. I got to talking with my boyfriend, (I'm pre op) and the conversation drifted to if condoms are still useful in STD prevention for post op trans girls. His position was there probably wasn't a place for clear transmission of fluids and I wasn't entirely sure I agreed but I didn't have any evidence to back it up. So I thought I'd ask people wiser and more experienced then myself. All you wonderful people here. =P
Title: Re: Post op, condoms and STD's...I have a question.
Post by: suzifrommd on March 18, 2015, 06:03:36 PM
Quote from: Ellesmira the Duck on March 18, 2015, 05:58:43 PM
So, I have a question for my post op girls here though anyone who had some insight is perfectly welcome. I got to talking with my boyfriend, (I'm pre op) and the conversation drifted to if condoms are still useful in STD prevention for post op trans girls. His position was there probably wasn't a place for clear transmission of fluids and I wasn't entirely sure I agreed but I didn't have any evidence to back it up. So I thought I'd ask people wiser and more experienced then myself. All you wonderful people here. =P

On one hand, our membranes are less permeable than GG's. On the other hand, our tissues are less elastic, so more likely to have tears. I don't know that anyone has studied it. For me, it will be a condom every time (if I can ever convince any guy I'm worth a try). It's not worth the possibility of a positive HIV test.
Title: Re: Post op, condoms and STD's...I have a question.
Post by: cindianna_jones on March 18, 2015, 06:05:35 PM
Always use a condom until you are both sure neither have STD's of any kind. During sex, you may become injured and tearing can occur. You might not even notice. Additionally, you have a nice dark little warm oven for things to grow in. When I started to experiment right after my surgery, I carried condoms with me. Guys NEVER have them for some reason. And it is surprising how they think that just because you say you don't have an STD they will believe you. Or that you should believe them! The power of Mr. Happy is stronger than the average male mind, I fear.

Cindi
Title: Re: Post op, condoms and STD's...I have a question.
Post by: Rejennyrated on March 18, 2015, 06:22:19 PM
In actual fact if anything they should be more important. It is true that there are differencce in the epithelium but that will almost certainly be outweighed by other considerations.

My reasoning is that postop trans women will tend to lack lubrication, this can cause local inflamation of the tissue. When tissue becomes inflamed the local vasculature will become leaky, you will get extraversion of neutrophils and lymphocytes from the blood vessels and release of prostaglandins and cytokines. Now while the presence of immune system cells in the tissue might provide some measure of protection against some pathogens, it does mean that a powerful barrier against infection has been breached. Inflamed, damaged tissue is easier for a pathogen to infiltrate, and ironically it would also increase your vulnerability to HIV because it logically it becomes more likely that a virus could find a suitable CD4 T-cell to target.

So taking normal precautions is still very advisable.
Title: Re: Post op, condoms and STD's...I have a question.
Post by: mrs izzy on March 18, 2015, 08:49:24 PM
Well fluids are everyone I would like to report.

Also can have vaginal bleeding due to intercourse just like any.

Std's are Std's period.

Also all posted are correct. I made it more simple few word reply.

I am simple LOL
Title: Re: Post op, condoms and STD's...I have a question.
Post by: Ellesmira the Duck on March 19, 2015, 08:11:04 AM
Denfinitely some good answers though I might need to look up some of the words in Jenny's post. Damnit Jen, I'm a psychologist not a doctor. =P (I tease). But yeah my study of anatomy is mostly brains and a sexual development course.
Title: Re: Post op, condoms and STD's...I have a question.
Post by: noleen111 on March 19, 2015, 10:14:20 AM
Always use protection.. I never slept with anyone with a condom..

Only now, that I am in a committed exclusive relationship.. My boyfriend and I went for tests and we are both STD free... we have started to have sex without condoms.. as he cant get my pregnant.. it actually does feel better as you can feel him more when he in my vajay... difficult to explain.. The condom does deaden the experience a bit.

I only recommend this route if you both been tested and you are in  a committed relationship and you don't cheat.
Title: Re: Post op, condoms and STD's...I have a question.
Post by: Brasileira on March 19, 2015, 10:24:33 AM
Hey everybody  of course you can get any sexual disease as easy as anyone first of all the entrance of the neo vagina is too close to the uretra orifice, virus and bacteria grow really fast and all in contact to the entrance goes to the uretra. so never believe it could be harder to get a disease this error can cost your healthiness, neo vaginas are more tight and less elastic then normal vaginas and during sex either normal, neo vagina or penis have micro wounds and skin absorbs wherever it touch.
Title: Re: Post op, condoms and STD's...I have a question.
Post by: Ellesmira the Duck on March 20, 2015, 10:05:39 AM
Its nice to hear such sound advice from everyone. ^_^ Sadly I'm no where near a place where I can afford my SRS but it's a nice goal to look forward to. My boyfriend is catholic as well and honestly I didn't ever think I would fall for a guy until this one, so I'm still sort of figuring things out. Things were slightly more simple when I still thought I was a lesbian. =P