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Community Conversation => Transitioning => Legal Matters => Topic started by: Aiden In Progress on March 19, 2015, 02:46:44 PM

Title: Is There A Particular Order?
Post by: Aiden In Progress on March 19, 2015, 02:46:44 PM
I've been doing a lot of research about changing my name and gender marker. But I am so lost. I don't understand any of this and I have so many questions.

Is there an order you have to go in when changing documents?
Where do you start?
Do you have to be post-op and/or on HRT before you can change your gender marker?
What are these court orders I keep reading about and how do you get one?
Do I need to hire an attorney?

If it helps, I live in Kansas but I was born in Texas, and I'm both pre-T and pre-op.
Is it gonna be possible for me to change any of these things right now?

Sorry for all the questions. I'm just having a really hard time navigating all this. = /
Title: Re: Is There A Particular Order?
Post by: Devlyn on March 19, 2015, 02:57:08 PM
There are state by state guides in here, Aiden.

https://www.susans.org/wiki/Category:Documentation_changes

Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Is There A Particular Order?
Post by: Aiden In Progress on March 19, 2015, 02:59:45 PM
I read through that, but it just gave me more questions than answers. Mainly I just don't know where to start and what needs to happen before something else can.
Title: Re: Is There A Particular Order?
Post by: mrs izzy on March 19, 2015, 03:03:08 PM
I would start with your name. No use getting a marker changed if you are still called Joe or April. Mtf or ftm.

Start there an once that's approved next step.......
Title: Re: Is There A Particular Order?
Post by: Devlyn on March 19, 2015, 03:13:55 PM
I agree, a name change in Kansas is easy and straightforward.

Changing gender on your birth certificate requires a doctor's letter indicating surgery has been performed.

Gender marker on drivers license looks like it may vary by location.
Title: Re: Is There A Particular Order?
Post by: Devlyn on March 19, 2015, 03:25:29 PM
Your Texas birth certificate requires a surgery letter for changes as well.
Title: Re: Is There A Particular Order?
Post by: Aiden In Progress on March 19, 2015, 03:39:42 PM
I'll focus my research on getting a name change, then. Thanks.

My biggest issue is that I often pass until someone sees my driver's license. This kinda changes things when I'm buying alcohol and stuff. Not to mention, applying for jobs has been really confusing.

I need to change the marker on my birth certificate before I can change it on anything else, correct?
Title: Re: Is There A Particular Order?
Post by: LordKAT on March 19, 2015, 03:55:37 PM
No. You can usually change it on your DL first. You would have to check with the local DMV. You can also change it with social security fairly easily. Texas can be a challenge since you would need surgery first but, a passport and social security does not. In most cases, passport trumps birth certificate.
Title: Re: Is There A Particular Order?
Post by: Aiden In Progress on March 19, 2015, 04:05:21 PM
That's interesting and good to know. Is it possible to change your gender marker at the same time you change your name? Do you have to be on hormones before you can do that?
Title: Re: Is There A Particular Order?
Post by: LordKAT on March 19, 2015, 04:21:44 PM
Again for a court order it would depend on the laws of the state you are in. You do not need a court order to change gender on social security, passport or often the DL.
Title: Re: Is There A Particular Order?
Post by: awilliams1701 on March 19, 2015, 04:25:11 PM
I'm from Ohio but live in Alabama. According to you link Ohio doesn't change birth certificates. Does that mean I'm permanently branded male?
Title: Re: Is There A Particular Order?
Post by: LordKAT on March 19, 2015, 04:30:26 PM
No. It means your birth cert will always say male. Your other documents can be changed. As before, passport trumps birth cert.