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Title: SRS = Genital Mutilation according to Slate.com
Post by: Nikki on August 29, 2007, 09:32:10 AM
Sex-change Socialism Taxpayer-funded genital mutilation. (http://www.slate.com/id/2172848/)

Note: The Washington Post (http://www.washpostco.com/index.htm)(TWPCoReply@washpost.com) is the parent company of Slate.com
Title: Re: SRS = Genital Mutilation according to Slate.com
Post by: Lisbeth on August 29, 2007, 11:56:07 AM
Then so is circumcision.  It should be banned except for religious reasons.
Title: Re: SRS = Genital Mutilation according to Slate.com
Post by: Nero on August 29, 2007, 02:02:02 PM
Quote from: redfish on August 29, 2007, 01:20:08 PM
It was really stupid how they compared it to fgm...
Yep! WTF!
Title: Re: SRS = Genital Mutilation according to Slate.com
Post by: Hazumu on August 29, 2007, 03:15:45 PM
Quote from: Lisbeth on August 29, 2007, 11:56:07 AM
Then so is circumcision.  It should be banned except for religious reasons.

I wish I had that bit of raw material...  But, NO!  My mom had to bow to societal pressure.

Kind of the way it is in countries where FGM is practiced.

If a young American girl was held down by four big strong men while a fifth took an unsterilized blade and started hacking off the tip of her clitoris, her inner labia, and then sewed her outer labia shut while she screamed in pain, the only question in our minds would be is the death penalty enough.

Times it by several million, and now it's not so bad -- it's a cultural thing...

How does THAT work?

Karen

www.circumcisionquotes.com  images  stangcircchair.jpg
Title: Re: SRS = Genital Mutilation according to Slate.com
Post by: Dennis on August 29, 2007, 06:09:18 PM
I liked how many of the commentors said "well duh. Sex is good if it's with your consent. It's a crime if it's without your consent."

It's a perfect analogy. If someone grabbed a bio male and performed SRS on him without his consent, of course it would be a crime. And Female Genital Mutilation is a crime. Nullification, if someone biologically female chose it, would not be. And that is the closest analogous surgery I can think of.

Dennis
Title: Re: SRS = Genital Mutilation according to Slate.com
Post by: Jaynatopia on September 18, 2007, 03:31:51 PM
Good point!

Quote from: Lisbeth on August 29, 2007, 11:56:07 AM
Then so is circumcision.  It should be banned except for religious reasons.

Also, if medical professionals deem as medically necessary then there is no reason to deny it. Additionally regarding mutilation: that can be said about many procedures then. Essentially it comes down to the fact that as individuals we have autonomy over our own body.
Title: Re: SRS = Genital Mutilation according to Slate.com
Post by: Keira on September 18, 2007, 09:45:02 PM

Actually, they found lately that circumcision greatly diminishes the chance aids will be transmitted. So, in Africa, they are promoting it.
Title: Re: SRS = Genital Mutilation according to Slate.com
Post by: Doc on November 08, 2007, 07:41:28 PM
Quote from: Keira on September 18, 2007, 09:45:02 PM

Actually, they found lately that circumcision greatly diminishes the chance aids will be transmitted. So, in Africa, they are promoting it.

Sorry so late.

That poorly designed study has failed to take into account the fact that the circumsized guys are Muslims and the uncircumsized ones aren't. Maybe faith in a religion that expects both males and females to be virgins when they marry and demands marital fidelity diminishes the chance that AIDS will be transmitted. Similar studies, which had a smaller number of study subjects, all of them sailors in the US Navy, found that circumision made not a scrap of difference.
Title: Re: SRS = Genital Mutilation according to Slate.com
Post by: kalt on November 08, 2007, 09:00:50 PM
This has stemmed up partly in response to a video floating around the internet that's gotten quite popular, faeturing to guys in a contest to see who can be more gruesome about um... curcumcising themselves.  I won't post it considering I'm still sorry I ever saw it, and I don't want think anyone else should ever see it either.
I've run into a few people in real life now who were talking about it too.
I just don't get it.
Title: Re: SRS = Genital Mutilation according to Slate.com
Post by: Enigma on November 09, 2007, 01:46:11 PM
Quote from: kalt on November 08, 2007, 09:00:50 PM
This has stemmed up partly in response to a video floating around the internet that's gotten quite popular, faeturing to guys in a contest to see who can be more gruesome about um... curcumcising themselves.  I won't post it considering I'm still sorry I ever saw it, and I don't want think anyone else should ever see it either.
I've run into a few people in real life now who were talking about it too.
I just don't get it.

DIY circumcision never ends well...almost always a bloody mess.
Title: Re: SRS = Genital Mutilation according to Slate.com
Post by: kalt on November 09, 2007, 07:57:05 PM
I said circumcision?
I meant castration.
The images are still haunting me at different parts of the day, popping into my head unwelcomed.