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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: Zoetrope on April 09, 2015, 12:25:13 AM

Title: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Zoetrope on April 09, 2015, 12:25:13 AM
Smelly feet.

(I ran out of anti-androgen three days ago. Just slipped my heels off under my office desk and got the shock of my life) ...

:~o
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: stephaniec on April 09, 2015, 12:45:24 AM
anger
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Carrie Liz on April 09, 2015, 12:49:24 AM
The sheer bigness of the body features that it created. (Big muscles, thick skin, stocky frame... urgh... so ugly...)

Oh wait, actually, never mind, hair loss. Definitely hair loss. Nothing in my life has given me more nightmares and more of a feeling of desperation and hopelessness than when I started losing my hair. NEVER again. That is the #1 thing that reminds me that I could never go back.
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Zoetrope on April 09, 2015, 12:52:43 AM
Quote from: stephaniec on April 09, 2015, 12:45:24 AM
anger

That's a big and profound one, Stephanie.

Wow, old-me was difficult to be around sometimes ... :~s
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: ana1111 on April 09, 2015, 12:54:38 AM
body and facial hair and deep voice
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Zoetrope on April 09, 2015, 12:55:37 AM
Quote from: Carrie Liz on April 09, 2015, 12:49:24 AM
... Definitely hair loss ... NEVER again

I kinda feel like I have cheated sometimes. Both my father and my *little brother* have gone / are going bald.

I don't feel any real remorse about it though ... :~o
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: ana1111 on April 09, 2015, 12:57:22 AM
omg so paranoid about hairloss...gunna get on finasteride soon I hope
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Kimberley Beauregard on April 09, 2015, 12:59:19 AM
I dislike hair loss, body/facial hair and angular facial features.  Thankfully, the latter two can be somewhat easily seen to.  I've had to come to terms with the former and when presenting as male (like I do most of the time), I go skinhead because of MPB.  Finasteride wasn't for me as I wanted to keep my sexual drive and not have to sink an extra £38 a month.
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Zoetrope on April 09, 2015, 01:02:51 AM
To get Finasteride (I think its this one) in Australia, you need to go on the register for sexual deviancy. You get a number and everything.

My Endoc was hilarious about it. When he mentioned being given a *number*, he said in his crisp Queen's English - ''but some people take issue with that''.
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: DanielleA on April 09, 2015, 01:04:25 AM
How "T" made my voice low during puberty. I was in my car this morning singing along to Van Morrison's Days like this song and my old deep voice came out of nowere. I was stunned and thank god no-one else was in the car with me.
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Damara on April 09, 2015, 01:16:26 AM
My shoulders and frame.. T just destroyed my body as a "typical" female skeleton..  If I could safely rip it out and replace it I would!! but trying to accept it... maybe E will help with redistributing fats and muscles and help a bit.. lol
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: kelly_aus on April 09, 2015, 01:25:10 AM
When my T level is too low..
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Zoetrope on April 09, 2015, 01:39:03 AM
Quote from: kelly_aus on April 09, 2015, 01:25:10 AM
When my T level is too low..

Actually, I hear you there too.

Since running out of anti-androgen, I felt a huge surge in my sex drive, and I have been *enjoying* that.

I was skeptical about this little phenomenon until I experienced it first hand!

Nonetheless, the bad smells and everything else totally outweigh it ... :~o
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Sammy on April 09, 2015, 02:16:42 AM
Quote from: SarahBoo on April 09, 2015, 01:02:51 AM
To get Finasteride (I think its this one) in Australia, you need to go on the register for sexual deviancy. You get a number and everything.

My Endoc was hilarious about it. When he mentioned being given a *number*, he said in his crisp Queen's English - ''but some people take issue with that''.

What about dutasteride?
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Zoetrope on April 09, 2015, 02:27:44 AM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on April 09, 2015, 02:16:42 AM
What about dutasteride?

I'm not sure. It was one of the two. I ended up being distracted by Endoc humour ...
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Emjay on April 09, 2015, 02:43:33 AM
.......that my body's natural inclination is to produce a lot of it!
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: kelly_aus on April 09, 2015, 02:50:54 AM
Quote from: SarahBoo on April 09, 2015, 01:02:51 AM
To get Finasteride (I think its this one) in Australia, you need to go on the register for sexual deviancy. You get a number and everything.

My Endoc was hilarious about it. When he mentioned being given a *number*, he said in his crisp Queen's English - ''but some people take issue with that''.

Odd, I can find no mention of it online.. Androcur has a PBS authority that relates to sexual deviancy. 
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: katrinaw on April 09, 2015, 04:15:37 AM
Too much made me male!

L Katy
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: kariann330 on April 09, 2015, 05:44:52 AM
Thankfully hair loss and thinning doesn't run in my family....but I hate body hair....stomach, chest, thighs....worst of all, back and butt!! Nothing is worse than pulling off your bikini cut lace trimmed sexy little undies, and realizing that you still have a fuzzy little ugly bikini cut undie that you can't take off or see to shave
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: iKate on April 09, 2015, 05:50:32 AM
In order
Facial hair
Odor
Body hair
Voice
Rough skin
The fact that it made me "male" in the first place.
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Ms Grace on April 09, 2015, 06:25:09 AM
NASAL HAIR! ARRGH! OMG!!

Quote from: kelly_aus on April 09, 2015, 02:50:54 AM
Odd, I can find no mention of it online.. Androcur has a PBS authority that relates to sexual deviancy.

Yeah, I hadn't heard that about Finasteride. When I attempted transition in the early 1990s I was prescribed Androcur and I can remember when I got it filled at the pharmacy being paranoid that they would think I was on it for being a sex criminal/pervert!
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Zoetrope on April 09, 2015, 07:43:14 AM
It must have been androcur then!

I am now back on spiro. Hooray. I look forward to smelling less offensive in the near future.
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: ChiGirl on April 09, 2015, 07:47:36 AM
Hair loss
Body hair
Big frame (a doctor once told me I would be considered "big boned."  Perfect for a football player, Bad for the petite little girl I wanted to be.)
Sex drive
But the best answer was Stephanie's: anger
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Sabrina on April 09, 2015, 08:42:57 AM
Anger most definitely. I'm much calmer now than I used to be.
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: marikvulpina on April 09, 2015, 09:03:20 AM
I'm not sure if this does against the meaning of the thread, but the thing I hate most about T is the anxiety. not directly T-related but more dysphoria related but now that the T is blocked and I have some nice estrogen in my brain I feel so much freer.

but as far as directly related things go I'd have to say beard, yuck.
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: KarynMcD on April 09, 2015, 09:28:12 AM
Quote from: SarahBoo on April 09, 2015, 12:25:13 AM
Smelly feet.
Try putting antiperspirant on the bottom of your feet.
It will cut down on the sweating, which will cut down on the odor.
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Mariah on April 09, 2015, 09:43:10 AM
Hair loss, body hair, nose hair, and smell
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: kelly_aus on April 09, 2015, 10:09:46 AM
Quote from: SarahBoo on April 09, 2015, 07:43:14 AM
It must have been androcur then!

I am now back on spiro. Hooray. I look forward to smelling less offensive in the near future.

It doesn't require a listing on the Sex Offenders Register though. Just the PBS authority is for sexual deviancy, something that only the PBS will ever know about.. Or, you can do as I do and get it on a private prescription, no odd authority.. Just it's about $100 a box.
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Sapphire87 on April 09, 2015, 10:23:33 AM
Quote from: SarahBoo on April 09, 2015, 12:25:13 AM
Smelly feet.

(I ran out of anti-androgen three days ago. Just slipped my heels off under my office desk and got the shock of my life) ...

:~o

I am unfortunately cursed with that affliction all the time.
For me it was Voice and all the acne problems I had until the T was gone
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Sammy on April 09, 2015, 12:54:38 PM
Quote from: kelly_aus on April 09, 2015, 10:09:46 AM
It doesn't require a listing on the Sex Offenders Register though. Just the PBS authority is for sexual deviancy, something that only the PBS will ever know about.. Or, you can do as I do and get it on a private prescription, no odd authority.. Just it's about $100 a box.

If You can get it, "Cyproplex" is two times cheaper and it is the same generic cyproterone acetate.
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: herekitten on April 09, 2015, 01:19:57 PM
Goodness!  some of the stuff on here such as nose hairs, smells, flatulence, deep voices, skeletons, feet, hands, too much hair and lack thereof, secretions, etc...    I know plenty of cis-women with all those things and then some! so I guess that pesky ole T is in abundance everywhere.

For me, the thing I hate about T is how it makes some men continuously think about sex. It's almost as if that is all they think about. 
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Kellam on April 09, 2015, 02:33:56 PM
Quote from: iKate on April 09, 2015, 05:50:32 AM
In order
Facial hair
Odor
Body hair
Voice
Rough skin
The fact that it made me "male" in the first place.

All of this, plus brow ridge and the worst was the agression. I could never do enough to run off all that agrsseive energy. It is exhausting to contemplate.
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: amazed91 on April 09, 2015, 03:12:02 PM
definitely acne... damn acne destroyed my chance to have smooth skin, even though its completely gone now it left scars everywhere. Thats my biggest insecurity! :(
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: kelly_aus on April 09, 2015, 05:22:35 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on April 09, 2015, 12:54:38 PM
If You can get it, "Cyproplex" is two times cheaper and it is the same generic cyproterone acetate.

I'm using a generic right now, it was $80 a box..
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: rachel89 on April 09, 2015, 05:43:49 PM
1. The rage.
2. Facial/body hair
3. bone structure
4. odor
5. Insane sex drive despite hating my bottom configuration. (If I had the right parts, it wouldn't be so bad >:-) )
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: PhoenixGurl2016 on April 09, 2015, 08:48:57 PM
Body Hair
Face hair
hair voice
Aggressiveness
Bone Structure
Voice
Sex drive
Skin
Odor
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: ClaireIvene on April 09, 2015, 09:03:09 PM
Gah... oh how I abhor testosterone... well, in me that is. What I hate about T especially Dihydrotestosterone(DHT) is the muscle it maintains and the facial and body hair though little that it caused to grow on me. Also the oily face and thick skin is horrible.
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Zoetrope on April 10, 2015, 02:36:15 AM
So, the moral of the story was this -

Metallic male smell = unpleasant
Musky female smell = also unpleasant
Both at once = all kinds of wrong

I don't take my spiro for granted anymore ... :~s
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: ClaireIvene on April 10, 2015, 02:52:00 AM
Hahaha, well, I love natural body odor when it comes from a healthy person that eats right and exercises. ;D I have become very sensitive to the smell of men and love the some smell sooo much especially the healthy athletic ones.. OMG! I know I probably seem sick but heck I can't help nor wish to.
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Lady Smith on April 10, 2015, 02:54:24 AM
T made me feel as if my mind was being twisted into a knot and the real me was dying.
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Ms Grace on April 10, 2015, 03:18:57 AM
When my sister was pre-puberty she had the absolute stinkiest feet - so testosterone isn't the only contributor to bromodosis (yes, I had to look that up!!! ;D )
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: ClaireIvene on April 10, 2015, 03:41:54 AM
I wonder why some people have a strong foot odor gene and others do not even within the same family? I never had any food odor problem ever, however, my big brother and by older sister(the second eldest of 5 kids) have bad odor of the feet.. especially my brother whewy!!

It might be because of overly large pores in the foot or bad dermis immune system balance down there.
Title: Re: Your least favourite thing about T!
Post by: Christine Eryn on April 11, 2015, 04:17:49 PM
The fact that it poisoned me and cost me thousands of dollars to reverse the damage.