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Title: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: Omnom on May 03, 2015, 03:31:50 PM
Hey :)
I am a male-to-female transgender and I'm looking for any tips on tucking... I usually fail at it.
When I am wearing a tight pencil skirt, I usually get away by wearing those body forming panties. Actually they are for making a better shape of your belly (they're high waist), but because of that they hide my private parts. Nevertheless it isn't thaaat comfortable. The main problem is, that the fabric stripe on the bottom is too narrow for my private parts. I kind of "squeeze" them to my back and the pants hold them. But because it's so narrow, my testicles "ooze out" on the sides... and the edges cut into my skin, which isn't really nice...
So I'm looking for a solution that is more for everyday...

Of course I searched on the internet, but the two solutions are either with tape, which I just don't want to do, or by the "push your testicles into the place they usually came from"-method. But that doesn't work for me either, because... It's hard to get them into that place, and when they are there, you can still totally see some bulges, so it is flat in no case.

So I need a solution that just... holds my private parts back there. I tried some of those gaffs you can buy online, but they weren't really that great... I also tried to cut and resew some men's briefs, so they will hold my private parts back... that was the most useful solution yet. But I still have no perfect model and because I have to cut some part of the briefs away, there isn't enough fabric on the edges and they cut into my behind and part each cheeks in two -.-
I also tried the method, where you use the waistband of some underwear with a tube, that you cut off a pair of socks... also doesn't really work...

I know I won't find anything which is 100% comfortable. But isn't there any method, which will hide my private parts without cutting into them, without me having to rearrange them all the time, and which will make my front just flat?

I hope you can help me out...
Thank you for reading my post ^^
Omnom
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: Mariah on May 03, 2015, 03:36:09 PM
HI Omnom, welcome to Susan's. I look forward to seeing you around the site. Good luck and Hugs.
Mariah


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Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: awilliams1701 on May 03, 2015, 03:36:19 PM
I found by trial and error that wearing two pairs of panties helps. I also found by more trial and error by wearing cheerleader panties (originally part of a costume, but now I have several of them) over regular panties (bikini or brief) really does the job. It stays put for me.

It actually makes sense though. Cheerleaders end up in very compromising positions. Those panties are designed to cover, however by themselves they aren't good enough.
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: Laura_7 on May 03, 2015, 04:00:04 PM
You could have a look here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=180972.0

all at your own risk :)


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Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: mmmmm on May 03, 2015, 04:22:17 PM
Micropore medical tape (5cm/2inch wide) ... I prearrange 3 strips into triangular shape on the table, turn it around and put smaller triangular cut of thin toilet paper in the middle (because I care about my donor skin material). It works for me... nothing else did.
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: suzifrommd on May 03, 2015, 05:07:14 PM
This worked for me:

I pushed the boys into the cavity above the scrotum. Once I'd been on hrt for awhile and had some shrinkage, I was able to stuff them all the way into the inguinal canals, but nestling them in the cavity worked ok. Then I'd point the shaft backward. I'd use two pairs of part-spandex panties about a size too small to keep everything in place.

Once I did this, I looked for all the world like I had a female bottom, even if I stripped down to my panties.
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: awilliams1701 on May 03, 2015, 05:16:13 PM
Even 5 months later I still can't do that.
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: enigmaticrorschach on May 03, 2015, 05:22:10 PM
I can do it correctly, I just find no point in it so I don't really tuck anymore
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: MugwortPsychonaut on May 03, 2015, 05:47:58 PM
Quote from: awilliams1701 on May 03, 2015, 05:16:13 PM
Even 5 months later I still can't do that.

Right?! I've been on HRT for almost a year and a half, and I can't do it, either! Besides, if I even so much as just tuck my penis under my balls, it ends up smelling like a four-cheese pizza!

Someday I'll get my surgery, and I won't have to worry about this anymore.
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: Cynobyte on May 03, 2015, 06:00:26 PM
look into a trans scrotal piercing:)  takes a year to fit to where you forget you did it and wake up still tucked the next day.  thats naked too:)  before my orch, the hrt did some shrinking on the round things and they hid up in those canals.  then placing my penis tucked away in the scrotum, it kept them pushed up.  was sore like srs for a few months, but now feels great.  like having both genders, this way i can be happy and so can my wife;)
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: mmmmm on May 03, 2015, 06:14:42 PM
Quote from: awilliams1701 on May 03, 2015, 05:16:13 PM
Even 5 months later I still can't do that.

Cyproterone acetate
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: awilliams1701 on May 03, 2015, 07:37:23 PM
Like I said earlier, I found a method that works.
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: Ms Grace on May 03, 2015, 07:46:18 PM
I guess it depends on how much one needs to get out of the way. I'm a member of the itsy-bitsy-teeny-weinie club so it's probably a bit easier than for some. I use a gaff (https://www.susans.org/wiki/index.php/Tucking#Gaffs) - I've ordered several and they do a pretty good job. Since the one's I have are essentially thongs/g-strings I wear them over a pair of basic but tight knickers so they don't go into my butt. I usually wear a nice pair of knickers over the top. Looks nice,  no "bump" and not uncomfortable (even in summer). It really does the job!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: awilliams1701 on May 03, 2015, 07:48:29 PM
My method worked pre and post HRT and HRT shrank it quite a bit.
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: Lady Smith on May 03, 2015, 07:52:44 PM
Due to scar tissue from 'corrective' surgery when I was young tucking didn't work for me and taping was downright painful.  Good firm well covering knickers and sensible choices with the kind of clothes I wore were my only real solutions.  Of course once I had my orchi done everything was just fine.
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: Lady_Oracle on May 03, 2015, 08:08:32 PM
My testes shrunk considerably after about a year and a half but not the penis so even though that part hasn't shrunk at all 3 years in, wearing tight pants or tight underwear smooths everything out without tucking. There is a bulge but its a lady bulge (camel toe) if that makes sense, it just looks like I have a large labia. I find boy shorts work the best or bikini styles.
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: acd_92 on May 03, 2015, 08:20:50 PM
I usually do Ashley's method, but I tuck by pushing my testes back, and then pulling my penis back as far as I possibly can, and then pulling two pairs of underwear over them really snugly. It was a little uncomfortable at first but...I got used to it!
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: Nicole on May 04, 2015, 04:22:09 AM
Tape it, I did it for years, no damage was done and with a bit of looking after myself down there I could go 24 hours without an issue
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: katrinaw on May 04, 2015, 05:02:54 AM
Before HRT I taped it too, worked well, no long term harm; about ~ 3 years on HRT, just a close fitting pair of undies works for me... little marbles are deep-seated now, only need careful adjustments with very tight (skinny) jeans, but once settled its all cool.

For me that was and is...

L Katy :-*
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: Mariah on May 04, 2015, 06:50:29 AM
A tight pair of panties has always gotten the job for me but ten I have always been small down there so I have never needed to tuck as a result.
Mariah
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: Gracie on May 04, 2015, 08:10:37 AM
After trying several techniques, I found that gaffs with sleeves work best for me.  I wear very tight jeggings in public with no trace of the boys! A little practice has helped to make public bathroom breaks work. Good luck.TGXYEH
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: Dee Marshall on May 04, 2015, 10:32:53 AM
Quote from: Cynobyte on May 03, 2015, 06:00:26 PM
look into a trans scrotal piercing:)  takes a year to fit to where you forget you did it and wake up still tucked the next day.  thats naked too:)  before my orch, the hrt did some shrinking on the round things and they hid up in those canals.  then placing my penis tucked away in the scrotum, it kept them pushed up.  was sore like srs for a few months, but now feels great.  like having both genders, this way i can be happy and so can my wife;)
That's a disturbing and yet intriguing idea. I'll give it some thought. I wonder how much trouble the piercings would cause if one went for SRS later? I don't think SRS is in my economic future but Sweetie thinks it might be crowd-fundable.
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: marsh monster on May 04, 2015, 11:15:42 AM
Medical tape does work, the micropore is good as its for sensitive areas and is mostly just sticky paper and it can stand up in water for a bit too. Durapore if you want stronger and more water resistant. Me, I don't really sweat much and can wear tape for a few days before needing to remove it, but I'm sure that would vary from person to person quite a bit.
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: Jenna Marie on May 04, 2015, 11:22:08 AM
Since you're already using shapewear, you could also just shop around for a pair with a better "seat." I never tucked per se, but I had good luck using a girdle (the sort designed for older women with more full coverage than the shaping panties) and sort of settling everything atop the reinforced crotch of the thing. It made my crotch area look a couple inches lower than it really was, but flattened and shaped everything nicely, and I tried on a few until I found one that had a broad enough crotch panel to cover and support comfortably.

Funny thing is, post-GRS the danged thing still comes in handy for a couple of really form-fitting dresses where I could use the tummy flattening. ;)
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: Omnom on May 04, 2015, 02:52:19 PM
Oh gosh, so many replies :))

I thank you all for your tips. I still don't want to use tape, even if you highly recommend it ^^ I am soo sweaty down their, my underwear is always ... how to describe it without it sounding totally gross... anyways... so tape is just going to be gross.

Maybe wearing two pants would be a solution... I think one of the most problems is, that women's underwear is always really...light... it doesn't really hold anything, because it isn't intended to do so because a cis-woman doesn't have anything that has to be hold...

@Jenna Marie: I think I'm actually using girdles. Couldn't find the right expression (english isn't my native language) I hope that someday I will find some with a better "seat" as you call it :DD

@Gracie With sleeves, do you mean those with... this kind of "pocket" where you get your package into it and then kind of... "tie" it away? I had one of those. It was expensive and it could have worked better... the "pocket" was sewn too far on the front...

Hmm... at least a lot of transwomen can look forward to their SRS. But at the moment I don't see myself doing that... so I will always struggle to hide my private parts, woohoo!!

Thank you again for your ideas <3

PS: Nope nope I am definitely not going to get a scrotum piercing ;)
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: sparrow on May 04, 2015, 05:06:37 PM
I'm keeping my penis, and I want it to function.  I like cute skirts, too.  For the most part, I don't tuck, per se.  I look for panties that have good elastic around the leg.  I pull the back of the panties up first, point the head between the testes, then pull the front up.  There's enough of a bulge that I won't wear pencil skirts, but anything with more volume works.

One trick I learned recently is that women hang things from their waists, where men hang things from their hips.  If I hike my a-line skirt up a bit, the fabric hangs away from my body, and the bulge vanishes.

I had an idea a little while back to paint the inside of panties with rubber cement rather than use tape*.  This was confirmed by a friend of mine who dated a cross-dresser.  I consider that source suspect, as he was only doing it for an hour or two at a time and (a) didn't mind pain for that short of a duration, (b) didn't have to function in day-to-day life (e.g. trips to the bathroom).  I'll experiment with it some time, and if I like the results, I'll write it up here.

* To be clear: I mean, let the rubber cement cure before wearing them!
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: rachel89 on May 05, 2015, 05:43:12 PM
ughh! I am so looking forward to kicking out the the evil twins and getting the ultimate tuck, also called SRS. What I do pre-HRT is wear extremely tight shapewear and a a pad to flatten everything out. After I get some HRT, I'll be able to hide the damn T-factories. With enough money and the okay of an endo I want to get get an orchi pre-SRS so I won't have to take spiro for too long and I can actually tuck it back without discomfort.
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: sparrow on May 05, 2015, 09:41:08 PM
Okay, I'm changing my answer.  I just found a pair of short shorts that looked AMAZING... just so long as you don't look at the lumpy mess in front.  Wah!  :'(  They were only $4 at value village, I should have bought them anyway... I'm gonna learn how to tuck eventually... 
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: Metanoia on May 05, 2015, 11:08:32 PM
I've tucked for years - mainly out of curiosity from watching too much RuPaul  :P
- But once I got it down (and them up), I found that men's briefs (that I wore for most of my life - not the same pairs obvi) work well if they're a smaller size than what you'd normally wear. Two pairs works - with tights or a pair of women's panties over to keep them snug - and everything stays reasonably well - in my experience at least.

HRT shrinking the berries so they stay in the actual pockets... that would be interesting... Mine just hangout in the canals without too much movement...
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: Valwen on May 06, 2015, 02:02:07 AM
I find that two pairs of microfiber panties, right now I am wearing bikini style. Then again I have been tucking for more than a decade, at this point I can from a standing position retract my testosterone poison factories into there cavities with just abdominal muscles, so that's never been a problem, so ya the double pair has worked well for me but it took time to get used to and time to learn to do right.
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: Nika on May 06, 2015, 02:56:30 AM
I used to have a huge problem tucking. It really helped that hormones shrunk things a bit, but I've found a way to hide it quite well with two small pairs of tight microfiber shorts. Lets just say I had a large issue before, but now I can pull everything back, pull up the front of the undershorts and then pull up the back. No tape or glue or anything required.  Also no panty lines or anything if done right. Once you get the science down, it's quick, u can pee standing up or sitting down, and no chafing or tightness or any pain anymore. It also really helps to have the band around the legs to keep anything from slipping out.

I just went to target and picked up the small, stretchy and super thin material microfiber shorts in different colours. Works great for all clothes too.
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: Lyric on May 06, 2015, 10:14:09 AM
This is the the never-ending newbie dilemma, but trust me girls, tucking doesn't have to be such an issue. There are several good proven methods (search the Susan's forum for many threads on it). The most successful seem to be gaffs, double panties, the cut-off pantyhose technique (check the Susan's Wiki), taping and-- my favorite-- nothing. I suggest trying them all. Different tucking methods can be used with different clothing styles.

In fact, the type of clothing you wear can help greatly. If you find it difficult to tuck so you look good in a pencil skirt, don't wear a pencil skirt often. My friend Barbie often wears short more pleated skirts and she get by without tucking at all sometimes. Anyway, if you shop carefully, you can assemble a wardrobe of nice looking things that require a minimum of tucking effort.

I find few garments I wear emphasize the crotch enough to me much of a problem, anyway. And in spite of what you might think, most people are not evaluating you by looking at your crotch.
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: barbie on May 06, 2015, 02:33:39 PM
For hygienic reason, I usually do not wear underwear panties, but tucking is not an issue. I mostly wear pleated or wide skirts like the following ones:

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2813/13392094753_7e577be07d_z.jpg) (https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8734/16961915215_0e6f656250_b.jpg)

Yes. Very tight skirts can be problematic in tucking like the following one:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7760/17206083690_11fcbdd7e5_b.jpg)

I had to wear Hanes little girls' brief for tucking.

Jeans also can be problematic.

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8877/17186431477_abe9e18c03_b.jpg)

My feeling is that tucking is not good for my health, and I mostly wear skirts or baggy jeans like the following one:

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fell.h-cdn.co%2Fassets%2Fcm%2F15%2F01%2F54a797cd58a12_-_stav-strashko-1.jpg&hash=50e9469e11e893c801108eadc7e898c993337243)
He is  Stav Strashko, my role model:
http://www.elle.com/fashion/news/a26351/stav-strashko-model-interview/

There are many ways to circumvent the tucking problem, and then why should we stick to it?

barbie~~
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: carey965 on May 06, 2015, 08:38:44 PM
this is my favorite method and it really does work, i wear alot of leggings and tight shorts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S310_KFSkW4
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: JulieWeeks on May 07, 2015, 10:55:00 AM
I've had great success using a pair of medium control briefs with a pad and then spanx style shorts over those.  The pads help sandwich everything in place and smooth it out.  The spanx helps prevent accidental sliding out - I have never found a pair of panties with a wide enough crotch for tucking.
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: Lady Smith on May 07, 2015, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: carey965 on May 06, 2015, 08:38:44 PM
this is my favorite method and it really does work, i wear alot of leggings and tight shorts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S310_KFSkW4

I'm just so amazed that these days there are how-to's for this kind of thing on You Tube.  When I started transition waaaaay back in the pre-digital age there was just nothing in the way of information and I had to blunder about trying to figure all this out on my own.
Title: Re: Tucking doesn't really work…
Post by: carey965 on May 07, 2015, 10:02:13 PM
Quote from: Lady Smith on May 07, 2015, 08:29:29 PM
I'm just so amazed that these days there are how-to's for this kind of thing on You Tube.  When I started transition waaaaay back in the pre-digital age there was just nothing in the way of information and I had to blunder about trying to figure all this out on my own.

i feel for anyone that never had that help, its just amazing what you can find on youtube, if your brave you can find MTF GRS on there as well, its really graphic but hey if you have a strong stomach its really amazing what they can do