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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: Wild Flower on June 02, 2015, 07:30:58 AM

Title: Ladies
Post by: Wild Flower on June 02, 2015, 07:30:58 AM
I am reading Pride and Prejudice (to understand Twilight), and it shows what is a lady pretty much; dignified, cultured, pretty; and what she wants a tall, handsome, cultured, old wealth man. Being a lady is made, not born.

I now see Gone with the Wind in a better perspective, because they had a lady/gentlemen society but when the South was defeated that whole society was destroyed and only those who conform survive. Now I see why Scarlet obsess over Ashley because he represent her childhood image of  a man.

And I see myself in this lady steriotype, more so Scarlet because I never had the chance to live as a woman... like her working in the fields and doing a mans job because she was force into it (by the war).

I wanted to know....

Are you a lady or just a woman?
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: Zoetrope on June 02, 2015, 11:05:43 PM
Nah, I'm one of the lads.
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: Zedan on June 02, 2015, 11:55:06 PM
Call me a Anarchist but I prefer secret option C, the Lady who is tired of old money and keeps her pride and her looks, but doesn't need  a man, or want one. Remember,  more money= more ego=harder to train. So...uh Feminist? But if you make me pick black or white, I choose Lady.
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: kittenpower on June 03, 2015, 01:06:56 AM
I'm just a girl living in a cats world, doing my best to live all 9 of my lives.  :)
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: kathyk on June 03, 2015, 09:26:02 AM
Look at Hollywood's modern women who have a more free style than historic role models. They may not often play really girly-girl parts, but they show their femininity and dress so incredibly well when attending events.

Of course, I'm lesbian and fancy a certain type of girl.    Oh ... to be young again.

My top 5 are:

Jennifer Aniston
Mia Kirshner
Charlize Theron
Kate Winslet
Adèle Exarchopoulos (Only because I loved her in Blue Is The Warmest Color.)
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: Jacqueline on June 03, 2015, 09:41:21 AM
Quote from: kittenpower on June 03, 2015, 01:06:56 AM
I'm just a girl living in a cats world, doing my best to live all 9 of my lives.  :)

This may be my favorite post ever. Considering my chronological age I still feel I am so early in this journey that I am a girl yet. I think there is a certain self realization, maybe acceptance and experience that makes a woman(whether Lady or not). I have teen daughters that are further along than I am(although I do walk in heels better). I suspect my goal is to be a woman. If I become a lady, I think it will be by accident or mistaken by age ;).

Joanna
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: Jenna Marie on June 03, 2015, 10:38:04 AM
I get genuinely annoyed at being called a lady. ;)
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: Miharu Barbie on June 03, 2015, 01:37:14 PM
A lady?  Good heavens no!

I am an aged punk rocker.  I am the Black Widow.  I am hyper-feminine, quiet, dark and dangerous.

I am sweet as honey, soft as butter, and mesmerizing as a hooded cobra.

I do expect to be treated like a lady.

And I pity the fool who chooses to cross or mistreat me.
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: noleen111 on June 05, 2015, 10:15:03 AM
I know I am a woman.. but a lady..

well.. i sit like a lady.. I am treated like a lady.. i.e. doors opened for me etc. I will never go to finishing school..

I am very girlie.. you know.. into make-up, clothes and shoes.. I hope I am a lady too,
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: iKate on June 05, 2015, 10:23:34 AM
I'm a lady but I don't consciously try to be one to put on an image. I just am.
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on June 05, 2015, 08:12:43 PM
A lady looking for a lady, except on those glorious terrible days when I decide to be a lazy heffalump.
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: topit on June 05, 2015, 08:31:13 PM
first of all i <3 jane austen shes my fav author ever yaaaaaas

ok so lets talk about the word Lady because originally it was a female variant of Lord or Gentleman and back in feudal times they were the nobility so lady was a way to address a high status woman
so thats where the stereotypes of being ladylike come from which mostly focus on purity and are super outdated and messed up.
if a woman wants to be Ladylike then she can (e.g. me) but in no way should these standards b applied to EVERYONE or seen as virtuous because theyr e relative
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: Ms Grace on June 05, 2015, 08:32:00 PM
eh, I'm a woman. I am kind, gentle, respectful and pleasant when treated the same - but I also have a very warped, black, naughty sense of humour, will speak my mind, I get furious about cruelty and injustice... and I can be an utterly spiteful biatch if someone wrongs me. So yeah... I'm a woman.
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: Wild Flower on June 06, 2015, 09:11:20 AM
Quote from: topit on June 05, 2015, 08:31:13 PM
first of all i <3 jane austen shes my fav author ever yaaaaaas

ok so lets talk about the word Lady because originally it was a female variant of Lord or Gentleman and back in feudal times they were the nobility so lady was a way to address a high status woman
so thats where the stereotypes of being ladylike come from which mostly focus on purity and are super outdated and messed up.
if a woman wants to be Ladylike then she can (e.g. me) but in no way should these standards b applied to EVERYONE or seen as virtuous because theyr e relative

Reading Pride and Prejudice, I do declare, is rather liken to cold porridge... after struggling to read it, you then get a sudden ephiphany and read with much ease. Its an ill book if you're not patient like a nun in deep reflection.

Janes best friend gave good advice... marry fast then find out about him.

Hmm.... theres a point and time when being a lady is all about marriage, but Scarlet OHara used men to survive and then open her own business up (very unwomanly like).

I  am a woman, act like a lady, but I am no lady.


Yep...yep... this is what I do on my Saturday night, interpreting decades old books about women in old societies like its relevant.
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: topit on June 08, 2015, 08:52:37 PM
Quote from: Wild Flower on June 06, 2015, 09:11:20 AM
Reading Pride and Prejudice, I do declare, is rather liken to cold porridge... after struggling to read it, you then get a sudden ephiphany and read with much ease. Its an ill book if you're not patient like a nun in deep reflection.
oh my goodness that is the best description of jane austen's writing ive ever heard
except for the fact that i would never enjoy porridge.
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: Nicole on June 09, 2015, 05:13:49 AM
The word lady, oh my.
Growing up, and even today if I used that word in front of mum she'll say: "A lady is a mans means of what a woman should be".

Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: sam1234 on June 12, 2015, 02:07:07 AM
From a man's point of view, I don't think being called a lady is a put down. In my book, a lady is a woman with ethics, a mix of gentle and strong, stands up for her beliefs and treats others with respect.

I'm sure it means other things to some. Being a lady is a state of mind, not a function of how much money you have or how fashionable you are. There are women, some are ladies, some are not. There are men. Some are gentlemen, some are not. I guess it depends on your definition of "lady".

sam1234
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: Sammy on June 12, 2015, 02:16:17 AM
I prefer to be a bitch :D Treat others the way they treat me, return favours with kindness, and respond to insults with a slap (cause punching could inflict too much damage). Never be a doormat, speak up for others, protect the weak and be kind, generous, strong, fearless and confident.
Oh, and change my opinions whenever I feel I like to.
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: Eva Marie on June 12, 2015, 02:28:48 AM
I can be lady if it suits me or if the occasion calls for it - sweet, demure, charming, and a little bit submissive.

Or I can be an independent woman with a mind of her own if I so choose, making my own decisions and not taking crap from anybody.

I can cook and clean and make a comfy nest for someone. I can fix the car if need be.

All of this is my choice - I can be whoever I want to or need to be. I am a woman.
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: Zoetrope on June 12, 2015, 02:32:17 AM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on June 12, 2015, 02:16:17 AM
Never be a doormat, speak up for others, protect the weak and be kind, generous, strong, fearless and confident.
Oh, and change my opinions whenever I feel I like to.

YES.

That's how I roll too. I expect respect from people, and have no time for feeling like a victim.
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: pretty pauline on June 30, 2015, 05:17:37 PM
Quote from: Jenna Marie on June 03, 2015, 10:38:04 AM
I get genuinely annoyed at being called a lady. ;)
Why do you get annoyed Jenna, just last night we where chatting, hubby and me, I asked him what attracted him to me first, and his answer ''when I met you first I thought you where very ladylike, very much a LADY! I took it as a complement.
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: April_TO on July 01, 2015, 08:07:30 AM
I am a woman - I strive to treat people around me with grace, kindness and respect. However, I also don't sit down and take stuff from anyone especially those ones that likes to talk down and makes their opinion like it's Gospel.

April
Title: Re: Ladies
Post by: Mariah on July 02, 2015, 06:34:06 AM
A woman. I think April said it better than I ever could.
Quote from: carmenkate on July 01, 2015, 08:07:30 AM
I am a woman - I strive to treat people around me with grace, kindness and respect. However, I also don't sit down and take stuff from anyone especially those ones that likes to talk down and makes their opinion like it's Gospel.

April