I have a question for some of my transitioning sisters that have been on HRT for 3 years or more. I understand that a majority of the physical characteristics of a person is determined largely by genetics while a lot is determined by ones habits. In saying that I know that some women have a tendency to be top heavy while others may have a tendency to be hippy. Well the majority of the women in my family seem to be modest to ample busted (C cups or larger) but all of them are hippy, including my mom she's just petite and hippy. So my question to those who have been on HRT for three years or more, have you found that if your family has a tendency to be hippy, did you get more "hippy" instead of "busty" during your transition due to family genetics? Please elaborate if possible, thank you in advance.
It used to be thought that unless you started HRT by the age of 13/14 you would never develop female shaped hips... Now we know that the absolute cut off is actually a little later in life... but unless you start in your teens you will see a diminishing liklihood of wide hips - and that vanishes to ZERO beyond 21/22/23 because beyond that point the epiphyseal plates in your hip bones will have ossified and therefore no further growth is going to happen.
This is simply physiology - there isn't a way round it.
Quote from: Rejennyrated on July 09, 2015, 09:00:11 AM
It used to be thought that unless you started HRT by the age of 13/14 you would never develop female shaped hips... Now we know that the absolute cut off is actually a little later in life... but unless you start in your teens you will see a diminishing liklihood of wide hips - and that vanishes to ZERO beyond 21/22/23 because beyond that point the epiphyseal plates in your hip bones will have ossified and therefore no further growth is going to happen.
This is simply physiology - there isn't a way round it.
Ok I understand the biological science behind that, however I've personally seen evidence that suggests otherwise. For instance I have two cousins, both both rather "hippy". Well one (age 51) has wide hips via wide pelvic bone and generously deposited female pattern fat distribution. The other (age 36)has wide hips due to generous fat deposits, because when she loses weight she looks boyish as far as her bottom half goes but as soon as she puts on weight it all goes to her butt, thighs, and hips. My older cousin loses weight and looks thinner but remains rather hippy despite the weight loss. They're both the same height and currently the same weight and shape right now.
So first of Jenny is right if you assume that the pelvis is the hips. The pelvis does make up quite a bit of the shape of the hips but you are correct in your thinking that your fat deposits and muscle growth patterns can change on hrt. This should go based on your genetics so if both sides of your family tend to put on weight in the hips then its possible that you will too.
My maternal side tend to be more hourglass shaped leaning towards the hippy and my paternal side tend to be more busty. My ethnicity is black if it makes any difference. Not trying to find holes in biology, just wondering if any of you experienced a majority of your fat redistribution going to your hips, thighs, and buttocks as opposed to the usual collection of fat going to your breast. I'd be happy with either or both. Since I'm only 4 months into HRT I consider myself "green" in comparison to some of you that have experienced several changes while on HRT. I also knew of a transwoman, God rest her soul, that at age 24-25 was rail-thin and always was when we were growing up. But began to transition a year and a half later, about 3 and a half to 4 years after that she'd picked up some weight and it all went to her hips, thighs, and butt. However very little went to her breasts. So before her untimely death she actually had "Beyoncé's lower half". Imagine that!
You're talking about po-tay-toes and to-mah-toes.
The pelvis (which is what we're actually taking about when we say hips most of the time) is not going to change it you get on HRT as an adult. Some AMAB may have naturally wide pelvises (pelvi?), but what's there, in terms of bones, when you reach twenty something, is staying that way.
Fat distribution, on the other hand, can change, depending on your genetics.
Me, I'm stuck with a narrow pelvis and a small butt, no matter how many cups of estrogen I drink per day (but I'm working out to grow muscle mass there instead), but will probably get so much breast growth that I may even need a reduction.
Alas, not much help to the hips, not much help above. Buy 36A bras (though 34B's can fit too), and narrow pants.
But I do have a wonderful looking hourglass in between :)
Quote from: Promethea on July 09, 2015, 12:14:56 PM
You're talking about po-tay-toes and to-mah-toes.
The pelvis (which is what we're actually taking about when we say hips most of the time) is not going to change it you get on HRT as an adult. Some AMAB may have naturally wide pelvises (pelvi?), but what's there, in terms of bones, when you reach twenty something, is staying that way.
Fat distribution, on the other hand, can change, depending on your genetics.
Me, I'm stuck with a narrow pelvis and a small butt, no matter how many cups of estrogen I drink per day (but I'm working out to grow muscle mass there instead), but will probably get so much breast growth that I may even need a reduction.
Oh wow, if you don't mind me asking but what size bra do you wear now and how long have you been on HRT?
I'm not on HRT, I said "will probably" because I'm predicting what is likely to happen once I start HRT, by looking at every woman in my family. Huge breasts, no butt, no hips, and the waist of a refrigerator.
The "hips" people generally talk about when they are discussing fashion and body type is mostly fat redistribution (in fact, the hips fashion designers have in mind is actually the thickest part of the upper thigh). So even if the pelvis doesn't change, that's only of interest to an X-ray technician if someone seeing you naked would still see curves. :)
My mother is reed thin, but my grandmother was both hippy and busty, and I'm 38DD-28-46 after 5.5 years on HRT.
Thank the Lord and genetics, I have always had a pretty good metabolism, great for not gaining weight and eating lousy, however horrible for gaining weight when needed. Since like the 10th grade I have been 135-140 pounds no more no less, regardless of what I ate. Now 20+ years later it hasn't changed...or maybe with the help of HRT it finally has. The same day I started HRT I went into Walmart and purchased like five packs of panties, all size 5 (American sizing) various styles except for thongs about 20 something pairs in all. Well one particular type, boyshorts, fit but are a bit loose in the cut towards the butt cheeks. Well today they are rather snug there! So perhaps I've gained some weight in my butt or some weight all over because underwear generally stretches out, not stretch in! That discovery this morning pretty much lead to the question in my original post.
I have my mom's body shape wide hips and small boobs. My family overall is on the hippy side. Fat redistribution didn't really set in till at about 2 years and in the last year my waist became a lot more defined.
On the first few years of HRT my body was like a stick, no bust, no hip, no butt. But after time the fat distribute more on my butt and thigh. And now it distribute too much, it my butt and thigh keep getting bigger and bigger, it result in the wide hip look somehow. Anyway I have to keep doing squad exercise to keep it's shape and get rid of cellulite layer. Meanwhile my bust develop nowhere.
I think this might depend on each personal build. I do not have the shape related to my family though, my mom have super big breast but I gain like A cup with HRT.
Hippy. I've been blessed with Cuban genetics so I have thick thighs, good size butt, and hips (42" last I checked). And somehow I also always had a wide pelvis. I suspect some sort of IS condition. Great for having a feminine figure but wasn't so great growing up.. I never could walk like a guy, so I kinda waddled or shuffled around, which occasionally got joked about with some people. Wasn't until transitioning that I let myself walk like a woman and was surprised how comfortable and natural a feminine gait was. Yet another relief in transitioning!
most my weight went to my thighs , some to butt but that just countered my athletic build.
so not hourglass and not busty 11 years hrt, boobs are B+
According to most calculators I'm an hourglass. Meh. I certainly don't feel like it
Like my mother I'm hippy, but not busty. My mom had breast augmentation as she barely had an A Cup. At 19 months HRT, I'm a larger cup (B Cup) than she was prior to breast augmentation (women on my father's side are very busty.) I was hippy prior to HRT (probably due to Kleinfelters/DES) and HRT has enhanced it further.
Badonkadonk... Check.
hmmm I'm not badonadonk... :laugh:
35B :-\ 33 :'( 38 :'(
err that's after a few years and still bad at weight management... consistently!
Katy xx
Quote from: Ashey on July 10, 2015, 03:34:54 AM
Hippy. I've been blessed with Cuban genetics so I have thick thighs, good size butt, and hips (42" last I checked). And somehow I also always had a wide pelvis. I suspect some sort of IS condition. Great for having a feminine figure but wasn't so great growing up.. I never could walk like a guy, so I kinda waddled or shuffled around, which occasionally got joked about with some people. Wasn't until transitioning that I let myself walk like a woman and was surprised how comfortable and natural a feminine gait was. Yet another relief in transitioning!
and here I thought I was the only one that went thorough this with their hips, like growing up was sooo difficult just cause of how I developed. I mean it was definitely a good thing for once I started transition. I also suspect I have some latent IS condition cause there were a few other things that I had that was not typical.
Quote from: Lady_Oracle on July 18, 2015, 07:01:08 PM
and here I thought I was the only one that went thorough this with their hips, like growing up was sooo difficult just cause of how I developed. I mean it was definitely a good thing for once I started transition. I also suspect I have some latent IS condition cause there were a few other things that I had that was not typical.
Yeah it was kinda rough sometimes. Just before I went into high school, I blocked out my childhood and forgot I was trans. It was literally a coping mechanism because I couldn't deal with puberty, high school AND being transgendered. So there I was trying to actually be a guy and had trouble with it. I had a small rounded jawline, and noticed my female locker-neighbor had a stronger jawline than I did. It made me sooo self-conscious.. Ever since I noticed that, I tried sticking my jaw out a lot. I also had very patchy and sparse facial hair so all I could successfully grow was a lil soul-patch and maybe an inkling of a mustache and goatee. Had very little body hair, soft skin, full lips... Even back then I had fat thighs along with my big hips. And if that wasn't bad enough, I had a habit of walking on the front of my feet, I guess because I was flat footed and it was more comfortable. Plus, a smaller left testicle and erectile dysfunction. All of this of course reeeally helped in transitioning, but reeeally sucked when I was pretending to be a guy. :/
Quote from: Ashey on July 10, 2015, 03:34:54 AM
Hippy. I've been blessed with Cuban genetics so I have thick thighs, good size butt, and hips (42" last I checked). And somehow I also always had a wide pelvis. I suspect some sort of IS condition. Great for having a feminine figure but wasn't so great growing up.. I never could walk like a guy, so I kinda waddled or shuffled around, which occasionally got joked about with some people. Wasn't until transitioning that I let myself walk like a woman and was surprised how comfortable and natural a feminine gait was. Yet another relief in transitioning!
Except for the Cuban part, this sounds like me! In addition to having a wide pelvis, mine is also rotated forward. My friends would tease me about the waddling/shuffling, but the worst was that when I would try to walk like a guy, I would always trip trying to go up stairs. They would tease me mercilessly about that. I eventually figured out how to stand and walk like a guy, but it caused my back to hurt really bad. Walking like a woman is so natural to me, and it feels soooo good to be pain-free!
Quote from: Ashey
Yeah it was kinda rough sometimes. Just before I went into high school, I blocked out my childhood and forgot I was trans. It was literally a coping mechanism because I couldn't deal with puberty, high school AND being transgendered. So there I was trying to actually be a guy and had trouble with it. I had a small rounded jawline, and noticed my female locker-neighbor had a stronger jawline than I did. It made me sooo self-conscious.. Ever since I noticed that, I tried sticking my jaw out a lot. I also had very patchy and sparse facial hair so all I could successfully grow was a lil soul-patch and maybe an inkling of a mustache and goatee. Had very little body hair, soft skin, full lips... Even back then I had fat thighs along with my big hips. And if that wasn't bad enough, I had a habit of walking on the front of my feet, I guess because I was flat footed and it was more comfortable. Plus, a smaller left testicle and erectile dysfunction. All of this of course reeeally helped in transitioning, but reeeally sucked when I was pretending to be a guy. :/
I relate to all of this...except for the smaller left testicle thing. If mine were any smaller, I wouldn't have any. :) But the jaw, sparse hair, soft skin, full lips, fat thighs/big hips, walking on the front of my feet due to being flat footed, and ED are all things I went through as well.
I would also get teased a lot for having girly arms. Especially since I played a lot of sports, that was an easy target. A couple of my exes put up "my ex isn't a real man" type posts after we broke up, using my arms as the main reason. All of this hurt pretty bad at the time, but now I am soooo glad I have them.
For me, the thing that looks the most out of place is my muscular shoulders. They are still well within athletic female range, but are shrinking pretty fast. I'm also getting a lot of fat transferred to my butt, filling in the male butt dimples that I used to have and rounding it out nicely. There's no way to know for sure, but I suspect that when HRT has run it's full course I'll end up with a mild pear shape.
Both :-) I have a very hourglass shape. Funny thing is, I just ate nothing but junk food and loaded up on all kinds of crap to get fat intentionally when I was much younger (about 12 or 13.)
I loaded up on fat as a way to cope with fears of a sexualized, masculine looking body.
As I got taller, the fat spread out and had the effect I wanted to some extent. Though, once I started the process of HRT a little before turning 18, I was gradually forming it into the perfect shape.
I started eating less, being a bit more active, eating foods with more nutritional value. I also listen to my body alot more, so it really worked out :-)
A body is largely a work in progress :-)
I have been on a transitioning dose of HRT for about 20 months and was on a low dose of HRT for several years before that.
The great majority of my weight went straight to my butt, thighs, and belly. My boobs - not so much.
I was told all of my life that I had a cute butt so maybe I was genetically predisposed to put weight there. Both of my grandmothers were short stout busty ladies while my mom was a skinny tall beanpole with A cups. I seem to be following in my grandmothers footsteps with the short and stout part and unfortunately without the busty part.
Quote from: HourGlass2B on July 09, 2015, 08:51:09 AM
I have a question for some of my transitioning sisters that have been on HRT for 3 years or more. I understand that a majority of the physical characteristics of a person is determined largely by genetics while a lot is determined by ones habits. In saying that I know that some women have a tendency to be top heavy while others may have a tendency to be hippy. Well the majority of the women in my family seem to be modest to ample busted (C cups or larger) but all of them are hippy, including my mom she's just petite and hippy. So my question to those who have been on HRT for three years or more, have you found that if your family has a tendency to be hippy, did you get more "hippy" instead of "busty" during your transition due to family genetics? Please elaborate if possible, thank you in advance.
Family's hella busty. I'm hella hippy.