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Title: I regret my SRS
Post by: Snöfrost on July 25, 2015, 06:13:22 PM
It's something that I cannot get back. I'm not regretting my transition. Just regretting my SRS.

I know that you have to take in consideration that stuff won't go as expected with SRS. But now I cannot do things in my dailty life as I could do before.

I thought that my SRS would make me feel better. But now I feel very depressed that my dailty life is limited.
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Beverly on July 25, 2015, 06:40:01 PM
My own SRS is in 10 days so I am interested in knowing what your SRS has stopped you from doing that you could do before
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Laura_7 on July 25, 2015, 06:46:09 PM
How long ago was your SRS ?

Please keep in mind that with operations, there can be a phase of post op depression, up to a few months after operation.

Well you could celebrate what you have... enjoying the positive sides...

its like a package, with pos and neg sides... and you can look predominantly at the positive sides...

and concerning womens rights and attitudes, sweden should be quite all right... if being with the right people... open minded maybe...


*hugs*
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Laura_7 on July 25, 2015, 06:48:12 PM
Quote from: vcjhyt on July 25, 2015, 06:40:01 PM
My own SRS is in 10 days so I am interested in knowing what your SRS has stopped you from doing that you could do before

This might be for you:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,190515.msg1697107.html#msg1697107


hugs
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 25, 2015, 06:48:43 PM
I think we need more details about why you feel SRS wasn't right for you, and could you have known before the operation?
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Dena on July 25, 2015, 06:52:57 PM
I am don't know what happened or why you regret your surgery, but I had my surgery 33 years ago and there is very little I can't and haven't done that I wanted to do. Please help us understand because I think there might be much more out there than you know about. I know some people have hard times after surgery and my roommate was one of them, but after she got past it, she lived a happy life.
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Snöfrost on July 25, 2015, 06:53:24 PM
I simply cannot hold my bladder as I could when I was pre-op. And that my urinary tract keeps to shut itself after the surgery so it can take 5 minutes to just empty my bladder.

I know that you can train your muscles with certain excercises, but I've done that alot every day now, and it doesn't get better. It just get worse.

Also I've been rushed to surgery in a hurry to do uretha dilation...TWICE within a month, cause I could barely pee, but at the same time I had difficulties to hold my bladder. Both times of those surgeries was with different surgeons with experience with transgender patients and at different hospitals. And the word I got is that I will highly likely end up at the hospital again with same problem. Trying to correct that I will be able to hold my bladder longer is too risky.

This has affected me that I cannot hold my bladder at all. Imagine if you're on a train ride that will take 3 hours with no toilet avaiable. It won't be a problem for most of you, but for me it's impossible. I am constantly going to the toilet to pee all the time.

Just imagine that you cannot control your bladder at all.
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 25, 2015, 07:00:30 PM
Sounds like two different problems:

First, when the urethra is not blocked, you can't hold the bladder like you used to, and

Second, sometimes the urethra gets blocked and that's when you can't pee.



My wife (who is cis-) has told me repeatedly that she's amazed at how long I can go without peeing...she says that after SRS the urethra is much shorter than in a male, and its much more difficult to hold the pee. (Also, because its much shorter there is an increased chance of a UTI.)

RE: the second symptom...could it be that the urethra gets blocked due to being misrouted somehow? How long ago was SRS?
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Laura_7 on July 25, 2015, 07:05:32 PM
Well there are panty liners for that purpose... there are cis people who have that problem, too...

have you considered asking a specialist for urinary tracts, not necessarily for transgender people ?

And you might inquire with other surgeons doing srs procedures... I'd even contact Bowers, or for example
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,169037.msg1478769.html#msg1478769

and I'd do a lot of research...

some cis people drink a small glass of cranberry juice daily to help with bacteria in the bladder...


hugs

Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Dena on July 25, 2015, 07:09:43 PM
While it might not be your problem, I also had somewhat different issues with peeing after surgery. In my case I had a good deal of swelling in that area and they held me in the hospital until I could pee without help. That didn't mean I could properly pee. I had to put my body on my legs in order to avoid spraying the wall with pee and it took a while to empty my bladder. It took months before the swelling went down to the point where I didn't have to be careful how placed my body when I went to the bathroom. If you didn't have your surgery all that long ago, it is possible you are like me and swelling may not go down very fast causing you problems. If that is the case time will help your problem.
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: stephaniec on July 25, 2015, 07:11:58 PM
Sorry your going through his problem . I have a similar problem. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and it very painful for me to get up  to a standing position and the stress on my legs causes my bladder to lose control , it's like not being able to chew gum and walk at the same time so it takes a lot of advanced planning on my part. It's a messed up situation , but doable with a little advanced planning or the other easier option is the back up plan of adult diapers.
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Snöfrost on July 25, 2015, 07:12:14 PM
Let me explain what the first surgeon said. He said that the surgery would take 15-30 minutes long. But after I woke up from anesthesia. He said that it took over 2 hours to dilate my urinary tract, cause my urinary tract was so narrow all the way upp to the bladder, that it was less than 1mm all the way up! He had to carefully use a small baloon that the could expand in my urinary tract. I was sent home the same day with a urinary tract catheter that I carried for 5 days so it could dilate my urinary tract.

And two weeks later, my urinary tract had shut itself again.

And the second surgery was done with a different surgeon at another hospital. The surgery also took 2 hours and he also mentioned that my urinary tract was narrower than 1mm.

The first dilation of urinary tract was done just 1 month ago, and the second was done about 1 week ago. The first surgeon have experiences with transgender patients and the second surgeon is specialized at plastic surgery and SRS.

It's been almost 6 months after my SRS.
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Dena on July 25, 2015, 07:20:56 PM
Some thoughts come to mind. was your urinary tract always that narrow? If so, how did it work before the surgery. Was there anything that happened with the surgery that could have caused this to happen? Has there been any talk of possibly constructing a new urinary track of a larger dimension? This is all very puzzling because that is something the surgery shouldn't have done. It sounds like there is more to this story that you haven't been told.
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Snöfrost on July 25, 2015, 07:34:13 PM
As pre.op, my urinary tract was fully normal. Never had problem at all while I was emptying my bladder.

2 month after my SRS. I met my SRS surgeon again for a checkup. I mentioned that I had difficulties with my urinary tract and I asked if they could do anything. He said that I shouldn't worry at all and that there is no problem.
Months passed and about late May I met a urology. He couldn't insert a catheter and said that I had to dilate it.

It was supposed that my ordinary SRS surgeon would dilate during the second dilation, but he wasn't avaiable and they had to take another SRS surgeon for the task.
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Laura_7 on July 25, 2015, 07:41:51 PM
Quote from: Snöfrost on July 25, 2015, 07:34:13 PM
As pre.op, my urinary tract was fully normal. Never had problem at all while I was emptying my bladder.

2 month after my SRS. I met my SRS surgeon again for a checkup. I mentioned that I had difficulties with my urinary tract and I asked if they could do anything. He said that I shouldn't worry at all and that there is no problem.
Months passed and about late May I met a urology. He couldn't insert a catheter and said that I had to dilate it.

It was supposed that my ordinary SRS surgeon would dilate during the second dilation, but he wasn't avaiable and they had to take another SRS surgeon for the task.

You could have a look here:
surftraveler.hubpages.com/hub/Homeopathy-Safe-Natural-Cure-For-Urethral-Strictures

Urethral strictures might be from infections or scars...
dilation is given as one remedy...
and natural remedies have helped quite some people...
especially if the option is a surgery...


hugs
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Mado G on July 25, 2015, 07:42:48 PM
I'm a little surprised that your urologist isn't exploring the option of using a stent to more permanently expand your urethra.  :-\

Is that an alternative that has been considered and dismissed?
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Snöfrost on July 25, 2015, 07:51:16 PM
I have no idea what that is in english.

The urologist tried to use what they called "guidewire" what they claimed to be the smallest size they had.
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Dena on July 25, 2015, 07:54:42 PM
Sorry for the delay but I am not a medical person. Something is going on here and I am not sure what. Went to Google and a few ideas popped out of it. It appears this can happen and two of the causes I found in my quick search are damage during surgery or STD. Now other infections are a possible cause so there might have been a infection as the result of the surgery.

My roommate had a urinary issue as well and she received dilation as a solution to the problem. It lasted for a while but like you, she would need it again. I think surgery would have been in her future had cancer not taken her first.

I think dilation isn't going to be a long term solution to this so you with what you are learning here, you need to find a doctor, most likely a urologist and ask many questions. The current approach isn't working and we need to understand why the problem happened in the first place and what can be done for a permanent solution.

If the damage was the result of surgery, surgery may be the only fix. If you have/had a STD or other infection, that needs to be looked at as well. We are making many guesses on very little information and the doctors are the only ones who can answer these questions.
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Dena on July 25, 2015, 07:58:42 PM
Quote from: Mado G on July 25, 2015, 07:42:48 PM
I'm a little surprised that your urologist isn't exploring the option of using a stent to more permanently expand your urethra.  :-\

Is that an alternative that has been considered and dismissed?
Doctors have been getting way from stents because the are finding the results are not satisfactory. In some cases they have had to remove implanted stents which is a real mess. We ask about that with my roommate and the doctor really didn't want to go there.
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Laura_7 on July 25, 2015, 08:01:18 PM
Quote from: Snöfrost on July 25, 2015, 07:51:16 PM
I have no idea what that is in english.

The urologist tried to use what they called "guidewire" what they claimed to be the smallest size they had.

There seem to be different dilators, with a wire like dilator being the smallest.



Quote from: Dena on July 25, 2015, 07:54:42 PM
Sorry for the delay but I am not a medical person. Something is going on here and I am not sure what. Went to Google and a few ideas popped out of it. It appears this can happen and two of the causes I found in my quick search are damage during surgery or STD. Now other infections are a possible cause so there might have been a infection as the result of the surgery.

My roommate had a urinary issue as well and she received dilation as a solution to the problem. It lasted for a while but like you, she would need it again. I think surgery would have been in her future had cancer not taken her first.

I think dilation isn't going to be a long term solution to this so you with what you are learning here, you need to find a doctor, most likely a urologist and ask many questions. The current approach isn't working and we need to understand why the problem happened in the first place and what can be done for a permanent solution.

If the damage was the result of surgery, surgery may be the only fix. If you have/had a STD or other infection, that needs to be looked at as well. We are making many guesses on very little information and the doctors are the only ones who can answer these questions.

Of course I'd ask docs.
But before another operation I'd definetly consider and try alternative medicine ways.
I know of someone where the docs enthusiastically wanted to open a knee, where 4 sessions of acupuncture helped so far that no operation was necessary and it healed over time.


hugs
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Mado G on July 25, 2015, 08:10:40 PM
Quote from: Dena on July 25, 2015, 07:58:42 PM
Doctors have been getting way from stents because the are finding the results are not satisfactory. In some cases they have had to remove implanted stents which is a real mess. We ask about that with my roommate and the doctor really didn't want to go there.

Thanks for letting me know.
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: kittenpower on July 25, 2015, 08:32:16 PM
I'm sorry you are having these problems; I hope that your Doctors can find a solution soon. 
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Jenna Marie on July 25, 2015, 08:34:14 PM
It really is a shame that you have to deal with this.  You may in fact want to look into the underpants designed for cis women with that sort of problem; it's embarrassing, but as a backup plan it might work. There are also surgeries on the bladder rather than the urethra to help with bladder control, though for that, again, a surgeon who specializes in fixing cis women might be better than someone who focuses on GRS. (Hysterectomy is one reason why women develop bladder control issues, so such surgeons would be used to working on women without a uterus.)

As for the urethral dilation, it does sound like your GRS surgeon should have taken your concerns more seriously... it's odd that a surgery which only affected the last bit of the urethra (and the part that's gone, obviously!) should have caused a stricture the whole length of the urethra, but clearly it has.
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Mariah on July 25, 2015, 09:39:48 PM
So sorry your having these issues. I take it you didn't have any scar tissue or anything before SRS. Hugs
Mariah
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Beverly on July 26, 2015, 05:24:57 PM
Ok Snöfrost - thanks for posting and I hope you get it all sorted out.
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: jojo0123 on September 27, 2018, 11:21:30 AM
Hi Snofrost,

I wanted to ask how your condition is right now. I had GRS the beginning of this year and am having similar problems to you. I wanted to ask if you've gotten it resolved and if so what was done?
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: KathyLauren on September 27, 2018, 04:29:40 PM
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Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Post-Operative Lady on September 28, 2018, 02:30:57 PM
I have never met another post-op who's regretted the surgery. I am 14 years post-op and have known many other post-ops for decades and no one regretted it.
Good luck transitioning back sister. :)
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Anastasia E on September 28, 2018, 02:49:14 PM
Quote from: Post-Operative Lady on September 28, 2018, 02:30:57 PM
I have never met another post-op who's regretted the surgery. I am 14 years post-op and have known many other post-ops for decades and no one regretted it.
Good luck transitioning back sister. :)

Did you read this thread? Afaik no one expressed any wish to transition back, indeed OP said she regrets nothing BUT the surgery itself. The surgery resulted in complications that has severely reduced her quality of life, and resulted in multiple corrective surgeries.


Unfortunately, complications are a risk of ANY major surgery, but it's a risk many of us are willing to take. Even a statistically small chance of failure does mean some end up with potentially life threatening health issues and no one can blame them for having regrets. In many ways, I feel that those with bad results 'bites the statistical bullet' for the rest of us and becomes our collective responsibility.

Just my 2 cents. I haven't had SRS, and I am not even certain that I will -- exactly because of potential complications like these.
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Post-Operative Lady on November 03, 2018, 01:36:29 PM
She can always undergo a revision surgery to deal with her post-operative complications. Many people undergo revision surgeries. Just don't scare people out of undergoing SRS. Before I was able to afford the surgery, many people (mainly <edited by moderator> ->-bleeped-<-s) were telling me not to undergo the surgery. They said I'd regret it for the rest of my life. Noooooo! They were being very selfish by telling me not to undergo the surgery since they wanted me to remain anatomically male; which I couldn't stand.
If this person is having complications she should undergo surgery again to correct whatever problems she's having. Oh; and yes, I did read her post.  ;)
I highly recommend the surgery to anyone who's considering it; just remember that there's a risk of complications with any surgery. Those complications can be addressed. Good luck sisters.

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Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: Rachel on November 03, 2018, 02:11:16 PM
Hello, I am sorry you are having this difficulty.

I had a urinary tract infection at age 12. I could not pass urine. Prior to the infection I had a very difficult time passing urine. It would take me a very long time to pee. From Memory 5 to 10 minutes. It burned to pass urine.

The infection closed off my urinary tract all together. It took many months to do this and it was slow. The smallest catheter was too big. So I had an operation that opened up my tiny penis and a catheter was inserted. I was there for weeks. I think my penis had a lot of scar tissue in it. It was very very small.

Anyhow, I had a new urinary tract in the tiny penis and I was able to pee. I had antibiotics the cleared up the UTI during my stay in the hospital.

When I had a very narrow urethra I could never completely empty my bladder. When I had the operation at 12 I could better empty my bladder better. When I had GCS I could fully empty my bladder and that was such a relief although was painful at first.

I recommend you see a urologist specialist. Perhaps there are things going on there that has inflamed the urethra.
I remember back and I was peeing all the time.

.
Title: Re: I regret my SRS
Post by: GingerVicki on November 03, 2018, 04:04:37 PM
Do you have random incontinence or does your urine build up until there is no option?

No problem before surgery. Not a urinary tract infection. Could be a situation where sounding would help to keep it dilated enough to urinate scaring or not.