Ugh... Electrolysis is crazy expensive and I'm blonde so lasers are out of the question. Tell me anything you can about make up... Picking a pigment.. application... how much to use.. styling of eyeshadow and eyeliner? Suppose I have to learn this eventually anyways. I kind of want to get a clockwork orange-esque look going with eyeshadow...
Yeah I know I could check youtube, but I'm interested in your individual styles and taste. Might help me develop my own style in a more organic way. I had a girl helping me out but I totally fail with makeup, I only tried once though...
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The normal order of things is Primer, Foundation, Concealer (can be before or after foundation), Bronzer, blusher, eyeshadow, eyeliner, mascara, eyebrows and lastly powder.
I'll say this now I am not a professional at this. I don't wear make up often so this is my version.
Ill try a step by step for how I do it.
I curl my eyelashes before starting, I use a hairdryer on the lash curler first as the heat helps with the curling.
Now onto the makeup fun.
Primer: For starters I use a primer to clear up oil and dirt from my face before starting as for me it helps make the makeup last longer and helps moisturise before you put your foundation on.
Concealer: I then use a concealer on the dark spots and blemishes to make it closer to my skin tone. In my case I try to get a concealer that is lighter than the rest of my face colour as I think that works best for me.
Foundation: The best way I think for the colour you should pick for the foundation is as close as possible to your own natural skin colour since you don't want to have to go all the way down to the neckline on your t-shirt or low cut tops to try to make it all look the same.
Well for me I like to use a Liquid foundation using a brush, I normally put a small amount from the container onto my left hand (I am right handed). I tend to put dots around my face and then brush them outwards to try reach each other and cover the rest of my face. I go to my hairline and everything, I don't mind if I get it on my hair as long as I try to cover the hairline lol, I will remove it from hair afterwards.
Bronzer: I do this in a shape of a "3" starting at the forehead, the cheekbones, and down along your jawline.
Blusher: For this I usually suck in my cheeks so I can see the dips. I then apply the Blusher at the bone and blend it towards your temples.
Eyeshadow: Only thing I can say about this is, I SUCK at this. I don't really put it on.
Eyeliner: My preference is I go around my eyes completely. The thickness will tend to depend on if I am going out or just try to be casual. I wing it at the outer corners of my eyes as well.
Mascara: When applying this I tend start putting it on as close to the eyelid as possible and kind of roll it as I move outwards.
Eyebrow: I mostly use a brow pencil to fill in the gaps and give a slight arch at the ends. Mine is a smudge one so I put some on the inner part of my eyebrow and smudge it towards the outer part.
Powder: I use a translucent powder, I use it to set the foundation and the rest of the makeup, so I dab it all over my face.
Last is Lipstick/lipgloss, put what colour you want on there. I go for a more natural look for this and then use Lip gloss on top to give my lips a shine. I usually pucker my lips to put this on.
This is my style for a night out (I forgot bronzer though and no eye shadow):
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That is incredibly helpful and surprisingly coherent for a text guide! Is the powder necessary though? I'm not aiming for anything overly flashy. Thanks again!
I would say the powder is important as it protects the rest of your make up and also give a boost to how long you can have it on for. It also mattes the face so its not so shiny.
If you are wearing make up for a long time your going to want to reapply the powder to try to reduce the amount of shine that can happen throughout the day by the skin producing oil.
I believe that's where the expression "I have to powder my nose" came from since it's used by women to politely go to restrooms for touching up their makeup or ofcourse an euphemism for something else.
Ah I guess I need that then... I'm moving around all day in the hot sun.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Powder+my+nose
Sorry I had to ;D
I try to go for "indestructible" makeup. For me, having it last all day and be resistant to smudging, water, sweat, tears, etc is important. I only want to put on makeup once a day not multiple.
It's important to know that there are no rules to makeup, only certain ways that might be preferred. Play around with it yourself, it should be fun!
And literally, watch YouTube tutorials. Getting visuals and watching application methods will teach you so much.
You won't be a makeup artist the first time you put on makeup. It's an art form and you need to practice to get good. Keep trying, getting better and experimenting! Different products suit different faces.
The way I learned how to do makeup was training on myself and on others. I then learned new techniques and got inspiration from YouTube videos.
As for an example of my individual taste for my face, which you can see in the avatar.
I would describe my go-to makeup look as 'natural glamorous'. I enjoy the glamorous old Hollywood makeup, but a more natural approach suits my face more.
I'm a little messy with my makeup in the way that I don't use brushes for some of my products (an approach similar to makeup artist Mary Greenwell) and I only use product where needed.
In my avatar I'm wearing:
Foundation: MAKE UP FOR EVER HD - Foundation in shade N115
Concealer: Vichy Dermablend - Stick Correcteur in shade 15
Bronzer: MAKE UP FOR EVER - Mat Bronze in shade 30
Cheeks: The Body Shop - Honey Bronze Highlighting Dome in shade 03
Lips: MAKE UP FOREVER - Aqua Lip Lipliner (all over the lip) in shade 01C & lip gloss
Eyeshadow: Urban Decay - Naked Palette 3
Eyeliner: Nilens Jord - Eyeliner in shade 790 Black (Danish brand, I was gifted this, but less expensive eyeliners are just as useful)
Mascara: Dior - Diorshow Waterproof in shade 090
Brows: Tromborg - Eyeshadow in Winter Leaf
On an everyday basis I'm more likely to wear just concealer, BB cream, a lip tint and mascara - sometimes with eyeshadow and/or brows filled in.
My tips would be less is more!
You want the make up to help you look your best, but remember that theres a very fine line between not enough & too much.
Remember these tips as well, eye liner is great, but too much during the day looks poor, smokie eyes are best at night.
learn your face shape, even look around for someone to come and show you. Have a look at a local buy swap & sell page on facebook, go to a department store and even ask the girls if they do house calls.
Make up is very hard to learn the basics to get the right look, but once you work them out you'll be amazed at what it does.
When I apply foundation and powder, I keep a tissue handy and after applying the foundation, I blot it to remove any excess and I do the same for the powder. Sometimes the blush may not look right and I hit that with the tissue as well. The goal is to have the makeup as thin and uniform as possible so it doesn't look caked and you want to look like you really aren't wearing makeup even though you are. Most of us have little skin imperfections that we need to cover so makeup is needed but it takes very little makeup to do this.
Dena I use brushes and beauty blenders, much better than tissues.
I put all liquid foundation on the back of my hand and take little bits, applying it to about 10 points on my face, then blend.
Yeah you know how it is not having makeup confidence, I was terrified it was so much to learn! I used to go into the bathroom when I was acting out the male role and had no idea what any of my wife's stuff was in the bathroom, now I go in there and it all makes sense.
Start simple and learn the basics, don't let it intimidate you, makeup is actually a ton of fun and one of my new passions!
I used to have my wife do my makeup because I was so afraid. Now that I can do it on my own my confidence level as a woman is so much higher, especially that I can talk with other girls about makeup and actually know what they mean, who knows maybe you will unlock a passion.
The picture to my left is like my 2nd time doing my own makeup, I feel I have so much to learn still.
I bond with my girlfriends so much better now since we can all talk and do the makeup/nails/hair thing.
You got this girl!!
Quote from: Lex Six on August 13, 2015, 07:49:27 PM
Ugh... Electrolysis is crazy expensive and I'm blonde so lasers are out of the question. Tell me anything you can about make up... Picking a pigment.. application... how much to use.. styling of eyeshadow and eyeliner? Suppose I have to learn this eventually anyways. I kind of want to get a clockwork orange-esque look going with eyeshadow...
Yeah I know I could check youtube, but I'm interested in your individual styles and taste. Might help me develop my own style in a more organic way. I had a girl helping me out but I totally fail with makeup, I only tried once though...
I wish I could figure out how to attach pics. I'd show you my first makeup trial compared to now. I don't go out in public without getting gawked at in a good way, and I frankly look terrible without my makeup. I also have not had any hair removal or operations done, so I get to navigate those obstacles. In regards to what I do, basically A LOT of concealer, then the whitest foundation I can find, powder that is also as white as I can find, dark red blush just below my cheekbones, darkening my eyebrows to black (I don't pluck), eyeliner from the inner crease to the outer crease on top (none on bottom), mascara but not a lot, and two shades of eyeshadow made for green eyes. Boom. I'm way prettier than the cis woman who taught me in a demeaning way.
One thing a lot of trans girls seem to forget with make up is its not just about make up, its all about skin care.
start with drinking water. I have at least a bottle a day.
I give myself aa face mask at least twice a week, I never go to bed with make up on.
You need to treat your skin well if you want your make up to last throughout the day and into the night.
Learning to put on makeup does take practice.. I also enjoy makeup. My daily makeup list
Foundation
a little color on the Cheeks
Lip stick
Eye shadow
Eyeliner
Mascara
It now takes me about 10 minutes to apply my makeup. My makeup collection is growing into quite a collection, I have quite a few eye shadow and lipstick colors.
What I have learn t, is that women wear more makeup when they go out at night.
I took a few lessons from the MAC store, then 6 weeks of full time modules at a professional makeup school for a quick boost.
Quote from: Lex Six on August 13, 2015, 07:49:27 PMI had a girl helping me out but I totally fail with makeup, I only tried once though...
Doing makeup well is a skill like driving or lots of other things. You won't be good at it until you put in enough time and practice. Then you'll be good at it. I find YouTube videos extremely helpful in learning makeup techniques, myself.
I just had a session with Mary Kay rep and she was really good. I recommend working with someone who knows what they're doing. She also emphasized talking care of your skin.
She had me do
Foundation primer
Foundation
Concealer
Bronzer for contouring
Blush
Eyeshadow
Eyeliner
Mascara
Lipstick and lip liner
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I'll add a couple of things...you can mix a little highlighting product into your primer--they have them in the drugstore right with the primer. Makes your skin look more luminous but not shiny or slimy. Put your usual concealer and foundation over it. Set with a good powder...NYX has a great HD powder that smooths and locks your makeup. And when you're totally done with everything, a setting spray is best to keep it locked...Missha makes a great one you can order online. That way your face stays put even in humidity. I don't use it everyday because I'm not that fussy, but if you want your makeup to last through anything, setting spray is great!!
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These are good tips girls.
Ideally, contour and bronzer should not be used interchangeably. You can certainly get away with it for personal daily use, but they really are meant for different things and to work together they need to be used properly.
Contour products tend to run towards cooler matte browns, and bronzers leaning towards warmer browns often with a little shimmer. Bronzer can be a reasonable stand in for contour, but contour won't work for bronzer and if you use bronzer for both you just get the oompa loompa look.
I also do my eyes first so I don't have to worry about fallout(although you can use shadow shields as well, I just see doing eyes first as more efficient)
I basically quit using lipstick for anything other than running errands during the day or for during a time crunch makeup session, otherwise I prefer to mix my own shades. I have a selection of Mac Lipmixes and love making my own shades, they come out matte but I have the gloss to coat it and a selection of other lipglosses to spice it up. One I particularly liked was when i put down a base coat all over with a pink MAC lip pencil, then mixed a pink a shade darker and applied it, then added the gloss and a touch of Kat Von D's 'Danzig' eyeshadow which is a shimmery purple, so it ended up a nice violet. I worked it a touch, and the wear gave it this nice ombre violet to pink look that was really striking.
And there are rules to makeup, thankfully you can break almost all of them. You just can't break all of them at one time lol.
I'm a low-maintenance type of person. I plan on getting natural-looking cosmetic tattoos. Latisse (for long-natural) eyelashes, and expensive as hell contacts. Maybe BB cream (very popular; foundation, sunscreen, moisturizer). The whole thing shouldn't take more than 5 or 10 minutes.
That would be my day-look.
Quote from: Kayla88 on August 13, 2015, 09:24:50 PM
I believe that's where the expression "I have to powder my nose" came from since it's used by women to politely go to restrooms for touching up their makeup or ofcourse an euphemism for something else.
Well, that's quite funny lol
It kinda depend on the look you want to achieve, cause as many said less is usualy more. Some peoples may put ton of make up and look great but others just look... too much. Tried many, many style but mine is definitly less, I never leave home without mascara but the rest is pretty much on occasion like skins problem or special party (using big make up less often is giving more punch when you do).
On the long run you should also think about how much time every day you wanna "lose" in make up that you could use for fun things :) .
My way of thinking is that makeup should enhance not exaggerate. I just use eye shadow, mascara, BB cream and lipstick. Takes me about 10 minutes to do makeup to get ready for work, picking out clothes can take me longer :laugh:
simplest way to do makeup is just some eyeliner and foundation. Liner either just on top of the lid, or inside of both upper and lower lids creates a really subtle effect. Use foundation to even skin tone and cover eye bags and presto you're done. If you can find a pencil liner with a little eraser/smudge tip at the end, you can use that to smudge eyeliner on the top lid like it's eye shadow and so you have this minimal smokey eye look. The basic rule here is less is more.
I'm a fan of being lazy, so even though I would love the glamour shot look every day, I don't feel like doing that. I've been sticking with just eye shadow (with primer), a tiny bit of concealer under the eyes, mascara, and lip gloss. It seems like it wouldn't be enough, but it actually is for me. One of the mistakes it turned out I was making prior to laser, was working too hard to cover the shadow. I was actually drawing attention to it. It turns out the trick is to draw attention to your good features instead of trying to hide your bad ones.
I've also found the quality of the makeup to be important. They are not all made the same. I'm not saying you need the most expensive because some of them are junk too. There are a lot that cause you to end up with what appears to be glitter all over your face and you'll spend days trying to get it off of there. Not a good idea if you're still in stealth!