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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Swayallday on August 15, 2015, 01:45:00 PM

Title: Wikipedia Hates Women: 4 Dark Sides of The Site We All Use
Post by: Swayallday on August 15, 2015, 01:45:00 PM
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1738-wikipedias-war-women-4-weird-realities-inside.html (http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1738-wikipedias-war-women-4-weird-realities-inside.html)

Why does this happen?
I don't get it...

I find much solace in intellectual pursuit / endeavors and have much respect for people who do the same. I've had a lot of intellectual discrimination in my life so I think this is disgusting behaviour.

Is this ego?
Is that what being dumb is like?

How do you handle this?

I can't conceal weaponry in my country (no knives, no guns), tasers are forbidden... I've considered a martial art but I really don't want to fight. I kind of let it happen.

With this attitude I think I will have some troubles later on the line...

Perhaps it's not as apparent in real life, it's Wikipedia after all and they can hide behind the veil of anonimity.

but I can't be sure.

Yes, i'm a bit spooked by this at the moment :p
Title: Re: Wikipedia Hates Women: 4 Dark Sides of The Site We All Use
Post by: Asche on August 16, 2015, 08:26:05 AM
I'm afraid it's not just Wikipedia.  It's pretty much everywhere on the Web.  Cf. "Gamergate" which, regardless of what you believe about the origins, has turned into an on-line orgy of misogynistic bullying.

I see two reasons for it:

1.  Anarchy.  To actually stop Wikipedia editors from bullying women, the overwhelming majority of Wikipedia editors and the people who maintain the site would have to get together and agree on rules that would stop bullying.  But not having rules is what attracted a lot of them there in the first place.

2.  A misogynistic culture.  We (in the USA, at least) live in a culture that is full of misogyny, racism, transphobia, etc.  So there are going to be a lot of misogynistic people around (not to mention racist people, etc.), in Wikipedia just like everywhere else, and even the ones who aren't are likely to see misogyny, etc., as normal.  The bullies at Wikipedia can rely on their fellow (mostly male) editors and admins to not take misogynistic bullying seriously, and if the bullies have managed to become buddies with their fellow editors, etc., they can even count on their support for the bullying.  Kind of, "I believe him because he's cool to go out for drinks with."  (Same for racism, transphobia, etc.)

Note that "outing" (or doxxing) also only works because of society's misogyny, etc.  "Outing" someone as trans is only of use to a bully because they can count on society at large treating trans people badly.