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Title: Birth certificate nightmare
Post by: sam1234 on August 22, 2015, 01:14:28 PM
Several month ago, I started to get my birth certificate from F to M. I needed the proper certificate to get passport. I'm adopted and my certificate was never given to my adoptive parents. At first, the director of the registrar was helpful and we fixed the name change on the certificate. He sent me attachments to copy, fill out and notorize to get my gender changed on it. Now, almost six months later and a lot of leg work, I've been told that I need to give them my birth certificate to get it changed. I told them the situation, but now all I'm getting is the run around.

I've followed their instructions, but then they add something else. I really need the passport so that I can go to another country for treatment of a pain condition. The treatment isn't legal in the states, so I can't say anything about it. I've about had it at this point. I don't know if its just slow govenment bull or if they have a problem with transgenders. No they want the original copy I got from my lawyer twenty six years ago. Given the government's record on these things, I am very reluctant to send the original name change. They clam there is a second one in the special document's section, so they should be able to get it themselves. If I give them the original and they lose it, I can't go get another one because the law office is no longer there and the lawyer has retired.

Has anyone else who was adopted had to get their birth certificate changed? If so, did you run into problems? Every document except the birth cert. is legally male, I did it through a lawyer so there would be no problems. Any help here would be appreciated greatly.

sam1234
Title: Re: Birth certificate nightmare
Post by: Dena on August 22, 2015, 01:49:37 PM
Because of the conditions around your birth certificate, I am not sure this applies but look at the birth certificate section of the state of your birth and see what is involved in ordering duplicates. There as a good deal of run around and a small cost involved but it doesn't hurt to have a duplicate of the original on hand and as long as they are certified they will work the same as the original.
Title: Re: Birth certificate nightmare
Post by: Mariah on August 22, 2015, 02:02:55 PM
I agree with Dena's suggestion. My mom was adopted and the changes to her birth certificate are on file. Anything they need to make it legal for the federal government is attached. You should just be able to contact the county health district where you born and get a physical copy or deal through your state's health department. Good luck. Sorry things are more complicated. Hugs
Mariah
Title: Re: Birth certificate nightmare
Post by: Sydney_NYC on August 22, 2015, 02:19:18 PM
I'm not sure if you are aware of this, (assuming your in the US), you can change your name and gender on your passport without changing your birth certificate. The same letter requirements for Social Security from your HRT doctor is all that is needed to change the gender. A court order is all that is needed for the name. You can find a copy of the procedure at the state departments website at: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/143160.pdf (http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/143160.pdf)

I highly recommend bringing a copy of this when you visit the passport office as they get confused at to which form to use. You use a DS-11 whether it's a new passport or an passport gender change. If you use the name change form with a gender change it will get kicked back.
Title: Re: Birth certificate nightmare
Post by: Lyndsey on August 27, 2015, 06:13:55 PM
I had no problem and they did it the same day



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Title: Re: Birth certificate nightmare
Post by: sam1234 on September 01, 2015, 11:00:20 AM
One of the main holdups is that I was adopted. My parents had always told me I didn't have a birth certificate or I would have had it changed when I did the rest. I had two name changes as well, and they want the original paperwork.
I don't and never have had a passport, so i need this one now. Its free and I get one copy of my birth certificate with the correct information.

Every time I would call the registrar  they would want something else. The other day I had a long conversation with someone from the registrar  that insisted I needed to send a birth certificate in order to have it changed. She just couldn't understand that I didn't have one and the circumstances surrounding it. Each name change came with an official request of change from the lawyer, and then a document from a judge stating that I could now use that name.

Fortunately I kept everything associated with my gender and name changes including the report the specialist in Baltimore wrote. The clinic I need to go to has been very patient and is giving me ten days for the same price as the seven day treatment.

Alex
Title: Re: Birth certificate nightmare
Post by: lisarenee on September 18, 2015, 03:37:01 PM
To get a Birth Certificate here in Florida, all you need is a Driver's License/State ID. This actually created a problem for a family member who lost their Driver's License. The DMV required a BC, so they went to the Health Dept and the Health Dept said they had to present a DL to get a BC. Fortunately, a parent was able to get their BC for them.

Perhaps, rather than trying to modify your BC, just request a copy of your current BC and then send that copy with the required documentation afterwards to get the amendments made.
Title: Re: Birth certificate nightmare
Post by: sam1234 on September 18, 2015, 03:51:59 PM
Thanks to all who answered. My new birth certificate came in the mail. The vital record's office allows for one free certificate. Its taken a long time, but I'm glad to have it. Another good reason for keeping any and all paper work that goes along with a gender change. When I changed my name, (twice, once before I came out to my parents so I could use the short version which was androgynous), and again after I did, I kept the original court orders. I ended up needing those to get my certificate.

Finally!

sam1234