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Community Conversation => Transitioning => Voice Therapy and Surgery => Topic started by: Cristal Lecter on August 26, 2015, 06:10:05 AM

Title: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: Cristal Lecter on August 26, 2015, 06:10:05 AM
Hi everyone

I wonder if anyone would be interested to hear the results now 3 months after the Wendler glottoplasty done by Prof. Remacle?

Christelle
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: Cristal Lecter on August 26, 2015, 07:06:16 AM
Here is a 25 secondes clip The reference voice is the controlled voice not the monster I had

https://youtu.be/CHkI-lqGGqk
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: CollieLass on August 26, 2015, 07:13:46 AM
Brilliant result!!!........Many congratulations, Christelle; you must be delighted. 
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: Cristal Lecter on August 26, 2015, 07:16:16 AM
Quote from: CollieLass on August 26, 2015, 07:13:46 AM
Brilliant result!!!........Many congratulations, Christelle; you must be delighted.

Thank Collie,and it's only 2 months after being able to speak again (rest period)

The reference voice is the controlled voice not the monster I had
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: kwala on August 26, 2015, 10:35:04 AM
Quote from: Cristal Lecter on August 26, 2015, 07:06:16 AM
Here is a 25 secondes clip The reference voice is the controlled voice not the monster I had

https://youtu.be/CHkI-lqGGqk

Wonderful clip and congrats on your surgery!  On a side note, I see that you play the harmonica very well!  Did you notice any differences playing it after surgery in terms of breath control?
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: Cristal Lecter on August 26, 2015, 10:40:39 AM
Quote from: kwala on August 26, 2015, 10:35:04 AM
Wonderful clip and congrats on your surgery!  On a side note, I see that you play the harmonica very well!  Did you notice any differences playing it after surgery in terms of breath control?

Thank you Kwala for your compliments on my music and this clip. I'm still waiting for my voice to heal completely and waiting the 1 year needed for a full recovery, I won't sing till this passed year, even I crave to sing ...for the moments I only have 6 notes I can play with and my head voice is still not back
As for the breathing I've noticed NO DIFFERENCES from before and after, even my vibrato is the same
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: kwala on August 26, 2015, 10:49:34 AM
Quote from: Cristal Lecter on August 26, 2015, 10:40:39 AM
Thank you Kwala for your compliments on my music and this clip. I'm still waiting for my voice to heal completely and waiting the 1 year needed for a full recovery, I won't sing till this passed year, even I crave to sing ...for the moments I only have 6 notes I can play with and my head voice is still not back
As for the breathing I've noticed NO DIFFERENCES from before and after, even my vibrato is the same
That's very helpful, thanks :)
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: anjaq on August 26, 2015, 12:43:38 PM
Hi

For some reason I cannot see a clip - just blank space. Weird. Well... I hope the best for you to get your head voice back soon, so you can try singing...
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: Cristal Lecter on August 26, 2015, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: anjaq on August 26, 2015, 12:43:38 PM
Hi

For some reason I cannot see a clip - just blank space. Weird. Well... I hope the best for you to get your head voice back soon, so you can try singing...

I've sent you the Youtube link on Skype Anja
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: iKate on August 26, 2015, 01:15:09 PM
I want a mic like that, lol.

Sounding good
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: Cristal Lecter on August 26, 2015, 01:23:17 PM
Quote from: iKate on August 26, 2015, 01:15:09 PM
I want a mic like that, lol.

Sounding good

I'm a professional musician I need good stuff this mic is not really expensive 400 euros, it's the "Bluebird" by Blue Microphone

What is "sounding good" ? The mic or my voice ? Can you elaborate ?
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: iKate on August 26, 2015, 01:27:43 PM

Quote from: Cristal Lecter on August 26, 2015, 01:23:17 PM
I'm a professional musician I need good stuff this mic is not really expensive 400 euros, it's the "Bluebird" by Blue Microphone

What is "sounding good" ? The mic or my voice ? Can you elaborate ?

You are.

The lower pitches which plagued your voice seem to be all gone now. That to me is one of the more important things over just a plain old pitch increase.
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: Cristal Lecter on August 26, 2015, 01:31:27 PM
Quote from: iKate on August 26, 2015, 01:27:43 PM
You are.

The lower pitches which plagued your voice seem to be all gone now. That to me is one of the more important things over just a plain old pitch increase.

Thank you and the old voice I've used as a reference was the controlled voice, I couldn't come to term to use the monster I had for this video, it's too stressful

I just can't wait the healing being complete
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: cindianna_jones on August 26, 2015, 05:31:09 PM
What an amazing change. It is quite extraordinary to see and hear the difference in YOU. You exude a confidence that totally works as well. Yes, you are complete aren't you?

Cindi
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: Cristal Lecter on August 26, 2015, 05:36:17 PM
Quote from: Cindi Jones on August 26, 2015, 05:31:09 PM
What an amazing change. It is quite extraordinary to see and hear the difference in YOU. You exude a confidence that totally works as well. Yes, you are complete aren't you?

Cindi

Cindi thank you very much for the feedback and I tell you straight away you can't be more right ...since the beginning of  puberty I was dreaming being just able to speak freely, 35 years of hating the sounds that came out of my mouth, and I'm not talking about the classic " I hate my voice" thing, it has gotten much worse 14 years ago when I transitioned ...Now even if I'm early in the recovery I can speak freely and not being scared of this voice ....you're 100 % percent I'm complete now COMPLETE
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: Cristal Lecter on August 27, 2015, 03:30:54 PM
I don't understand why women here are not reacting more to this thread

Is it boring ? Is my result after 3 months is not enough to impress you?
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: CollieLass on August 27, 2015, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: Cristal Lecter on August 27, 2015, 03:30:54 PM
I don't understand why women here are not reacting more to this thread

Is it boring ? Is my result after 3 months is not enough to impress you?

I think many potential viewers are missing out seeing the nice video, Christelle; the embedding-restriction, means viewers on Susans have to click 'reply' to your post, before they can see any link to see your youtube clip in the first reply of the thread.
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: cindianna_jones on August 27, 2015, 04:34:01 PM
I'm on a Mac so I don't have any problems seeing the video.

But to answer your question, we have many members who just lurk. It depends on when you post stuff like this too. Traffic on the site fluctuates.

I had to watch it again!

Cindi
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: iKate on August 27, 2015, 04:55:51 PM

Quote from: Cristal Lecter on August 27, 2015, 03:30:54 PM
I don't understand why women here are not reacting more to this thread

Is it boring ? Is my result after 3 months is not enough to impress you?

I think it's because after Jenny's Yeson thread anything about voice surgery is all old hat. Don't take it personal. The Yeson 2.0 thread is lagging too.
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: anjaq on August 28, 2015, 09:33:01 AM
Its what I said in the thread on why there is more talk about surgery than therapy recently - after a while people realize that surgery is an option, they heard many post op results after weeks or a few months and it is not much news anymore that there are big changes achievable by it, but eventually interest in it dies off. This is why I think more threads on voice therapy and training will come up again in relation.

What may be interesting eventualls is to see what happens to the surgical results after 1,2 or 5 years - long term - I believe if anyo fthose who had it will be around that long, this could spur more threads on this again.

But especially about Remarcle and maybe still also Dr Haben, some medium-term results will also be interesting for those who do not want to go to Yeson. Yeson is already quite well documented, the other two are not yet so well documented in the mid-term range (6-9 months).

I think I will also just really put updates on my results from Yeson at the 12 (or maybe the 9) month mark, because there is already so much said about it in the time before that mark.
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: iKate on August 28, 2015, 10:07:15 AM
I think I would have disappeared and closed my account by then.
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: kwala on August 28, 2015, 10:59:27 AM
Quote from: anjaq on August 28, 2015, 09:33:01 AM
Its what I said in the thread on why there is more talk about surgery than therapy recently - after a while people realize that surgery is an option, they heard many post op results after weeks or a few months and it is not much news anymore that there are big changes achievable by it, but eventually interest in it dies off. This is why I think more threads on voice therapy and training will come up again in relation.

What may be interesting eventualls is to see what happens to the surgical results after 1,2 or 5 years - long term - I believe if anyo fthose who had it will be around that long, this could spur more threads on this again.

But especially about Remarcle and maybe still also Dr Haben, some medium-term results will also be interesting for those who do not want to go to Yeson. Yeson is already quite well documented, the other two are not yet so well documented in the mid-term range (6-9 months).

I think I will also just really put updates on my results from Yeson at the 12 (or maybe the 9) month mark, because there is already so much said about it in the time before that mark.
I agree Anja that the next big interest topics will be to see more long term results.  We've heard only a few examples more than a year after surgery with Yeson and we have not really heard from any patients that far out from surgery after going to Remacle or Haben.  I totally understand why these girls seem to stop posting, you get a new voice and just want to go on with your life without even thinking about it.  Still, I really appreciate the ones who have continued to drop in and update us.  Personally, I'd also LOVE to hear some singing clips (doesn't have to be professional or anything) just to get an idea of what to expect in terms of range and flexibility.   Amyberlin had a great clip that showed us what to expect early on and I'd love to hear more and see how her voice has come along now that so much time has passed.
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: Cristal Lecter on August 28, 2015, 12:46:25 PM
Fair enough my next post will be in 3 months then
Title: Re: Follow up on my Wendler Glottoplasty with Prof Remacle
Post by: cindianna_jones on August 28, 2015, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: Cristal Lecter on August 28, 2015, 12:46:25 PM
Fair enough my next post will be in 3 months then

I'd really like to know how you progress as well. I find it fascinating to see so many getting what so many have been denied for too long!

Cindi