Hi,
so I just passed 9 months on HRT, been living fulltime for 3 months now. (Age 30) I don't have many issues with passing, but get ocassional "wtf" looks from strangers.
Debating on getting rhinoplasty and mentoplasty(chin reduced). Had 2 consults already, neither doctor felt I was that masculine. Still feel I need it though, should I get FFS? Wait a bit longer? How say you?
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My 2.5 cents is that I'd wait until at least 2 years. I got a big nose too , but I'm not into any surgery except GRS.
At nine months, you will have only just tipped your hormonal equlibrium over into a female environment.
Hold off surgery as long as you can. I am at fourteen months - and still changing every couple of weeks ...
Your frontal make-up shot looks great! I think you already pass without make-up in your photos.
Well, you certainly don't need FFS to pass as female, with or without makeup!
I'm waiting 2 years for FFS. I'm at 9 months as well. I was considering it in 2016 but I'm typically very busy in an election year so the disruption doesn't go over well.
No, you do not need FFS.
Hugs
Jen
Quote from: JLT1 on September 11, 2015, 07:25:34 AM
No, you do not need FFS.
Hugs
Jen
100% correct.
Here's where it's going to get confusing though. I would be willing to bet my life that every one of the major FFS surgeons you might consult with will tell you flat out that you
need FFS. That's what they do, and many already-passable and already-pretty girls end up having needless and expensive plastic surgery that, well, often looks kinda artificial and weird in my opinion. If you pass naturally, then leave your face alone, at least in terms of extensive FFS.
If there's anything in particular that bothers you about your face though, by all means consult a plastic surgeon, but stay in control of the consultation and don't get talked into all kinds of other things. You certainly don't
need FFS, but if you
want some plastic surgery, go for it.
No, I don't see a need for FFS. As stated above, I'd wait and see where the hormones will take you. You look great already. I'd give it another year before you consider it.
You definitely don't need it. You look great with or without makeup. I'm just over 21 months and even with makeup I still look like a dude. Though I haven't updated my picture in a while, I still look the same.
Wow, I'm kinda in shock! I must be way over critical on myself. Hard to argue with this many similar comments. I shall give it more time!
If anything I may look into combining rhinoplasty at the same time as breast augmentation when that day comes next year.
Thank you.😊 ❤
There is some camera distortion in those pictures but from what I can see, there isn't anything that should be surgically altered on your face. I only had two things done in the picture of myself. My adams apple was bad and the nose had a nasty hump in the bridge. The adams apple is gone and the nose cleaned up but still about the same size. Many of us don't need FFS if we are willing to wait and see what the hormones have in store for us. In your case, I think you are already have a good start on not only a passable but attractive face.
One other thing about the nose job. The best thing about it you can't see. My passages were partially blocked and the doctor opened them up for me. I can now walk at a fast pace without breathing through my mouth.
You don't need it. One thing that convinced me to seriously consider transitioning (I'm pretty ugly currently pre everything) was really examining the women around me for masculine features. Take a look especially at the ladies that wear a lot of make up. There's some "masculine" about literally every average woman, no matter the age. Do this for a few weeks and then see how you see yourself.
Personally I think you are very pretty and you are making me very jealous.
You re pretty and do not need FFS.
I don't think you need it by those pics. If you feel like you need it then yes. Not all surgeons will try to sell you procedures that you don't need. Mine talked me out of some things that I thought that I needed. Be informed if you go and realize that you may not be seeing all of the effects of HRT yet.
Quote from: Leeloo_Dallas on September 12, 2015, 12:41:19 AM
Wow, I'm kinda in shock! I must be way over critical on myself. Hard to argue with this many similar comments. I shall give it more time!
If anything I may look into combining rhinoplasty at the same time as breast augmentation when that day comes next year.
Thank you.😊 ❤
You do look great and you will most likely still feminize a little more in the face. For me there was a big change at first the 3 1/2 month mark, then at the 9 month and 12 month mark and still things are changing. By 24 months pretty much all the changes that are going to happen with HRT will have happened.
We are often our own worse critic. I would wait and see but really I don't thing you need any FFS and it's only going to get better.
I think you are fine without ffs.
But mind my hypocrisy, regardless of how good I might look, I still want to do it all.
My honest opinion? You look great.
With or without makeup you look like a cisgender woman, 100%. Nothing can clock you.
So FFS ? No. If you don't like yourself, you can get plastic surgery like any woman. But FFS is about feminization and you're already totally feminine.
Personnally I don't see the point of plastic surgery either, you're rather cute. And I'm generally against these things. But it's up to you. ^_^
You don't need it no, you look great. If you want ffs though, then do it, just keep it subtle and stick to your guns.
People told me I didn't need ffs, my parents spent a good while trying to talk me out of it, but I went ahead (eventually with their full support). I don't regret it for a second. Hormones were never going to change my nose and chin to any great extent. Whilst I often passed ok beforehand, I still sometimes got those funny looks... It depended on the lighting I think! FFS just removed those little tells.
I'm not dead against surgery as long as it's been thought through and with the right surgeon the results can be very natural. Actually in your case the results would definitely be natural because you would only need subtle changes.
By all means wait though, you don't lose anything by being patient 😊
Few people ever "need" FFS. Lynn Conway was fine without FFS but she saw features she was a bit concerned about, especially when viewed from the side. Look at her website on FFS and you will see why she did it.
That said even without FFS, Leeloo_Dallas looks great.
The thing you should ask yourself is : when seeing yourself in the mirror, are you happy with what you see?
Many girls naturally have what we call "masculine" details, you could have been naturally exactly how you are right now.
Some girls still plan plastic surgery because they're not comfortable with themselves. You should not plan it only to "pass" or "look better" to others but always because you know you truly need it to feel good and yourself.
I had lot of planned surgeries on my first year on HRT and finally I did none, after 3 years I am totally different.
From start to 1 year I don't recognize myself on pictures and from 1 years to 3 it's even worse.
You're pretty already.
I'd say wait a while longer ...
and you could try something like a brown liner for eyebrows, it might make a bit more soft expression...
Hi - Give it time. At your age, a year or three . . . then decide.
The answer is - NO! I don't need for you have FFS. The only opinion that matters is if you need it. You are very passable. Could FFS help, I am pretty sure a competent surgeon could make a noticeable difference, which is true for nearly all women. That does not make them less feminine today. It's all about how you feel and having FFS for any other reason is poorly conceived. (But again, wait awhile - that's my 2 cents.)
Can you imagine a gaggle of Eskimo women having this discussion? I'm 100% certain they are women through and through no matter when, where, what, how. BTW: I'm reconsidering FFS after 13 years of E, so go figure, lol!
You are very attractive facially . . . and that's the truth.
TTFN,
Rachel
Well, despite all the amazingly sweet comments. I booked a procedure.
Im having a septoplasty to remove my dorsal bump and fix a deviated septum. At the same time she will perform a neck lift and incorporate a chin augmentation to round out my chin some. Both I think will enhance what hormones are doing.
Quote from: Leeloo_Dallas on September 22, 2015, 11:34:27 PM
Well, despite all the amazingly sweet comments. I booked a procedure.
Im having a septoplasty to remove my dorsal bump and fix a deviated septum. At the same time she will perform a neck lift and incorporate a chin augmentation to round out my chin some. Both I think will enhance what hormones are doing.
I can see that in the photos . . . sounds like you want it! Great!!! You are are quite feme now and successful FFS that meets your needs is perfect.
Take good care and share with us . . . TTFN,
Rachel
Seriously, you do not need FFS.
Anna
If you have a problem with your face, and you have the means to fix it, I think you should, BUT, be careful of becoming addicted to surgery or never feeling like it's ever enough. You have to be happy at some point. And self confidence is key to "passing". If it takes some FFS to give you that confidence, then do it.
For as far back as I can remember, I've had a problem with my nose and wanted a nose job, waaaay back before realizing I was trans even. I still plan on fixing that! Although I may now incorporate another couple of procedures at the same time, but I'm still a long ways away from that.
Be happy with yourself!
Quote from: KristinaM on September 24, 2015, 05:29:50 AM
be careful of becoming addicted to surgery or never feeling like it's ever enough.
Lol, no worries about becoming addicted, this stuff is crazy expensive and I hate hospitals! I'm going at it as minimalist as possible.