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Community Conversation => Transitioning => Gender Correction Surgery => Topic started by: Susan on September 19, 2015, 07:06:06 PM

Title: GCS vs SRS
Post by: Susan on September 19, 2015, 07:06:06 PM
After some consideration I have decided that we will use the term GCS in liu of SRS. I think Gender Correction Surgery is more accurate and descriptive than sex reassignment surgery. As such this sub forum is being renamed.
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: Ms Grace on September 19, 2015, 07:55:27 PM
Thanks, Susan - I think it is a more accurate description.
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: Jenna Marie on September 19, 2015, 07:57:27 PM
I agree that this is a more modern way of describing it (I personally use "GRS," but to me it stands for "genital reconstruction surgery").
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: iKate on September 19, 2015, 08:28:08 PM
I personally prefer the term "Gender Confirming Surgery" as Cindy had used it but Gender Correcting Surgery is good too.
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: Lady_Oracle on September 19, 2015, 09:05:08 PM
Quote from: Jenna Marie on September 19, 2015, 07:57:27 PM
I agree that this is a more modern way of describing it (I personally use "GRS," but to me it stands for "genital reconstruction surgery").

This one makes the most sense to me.
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: Serenation on September 19, 2015, 09:10:53 PM
is it ok to still call it what the surgeons do in posts etc?
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: Susan on September 20, 2015, 12:54:45 AM
Sure call it what you want, this post is talking for the purposes of the site.

I considered confirmation instead of correction, but that makes it sound like a choice.

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Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: Isabelle on September 20, 2015, 03:03:18 PM
I quite like the term "vaginoplasty" instead of the ever shifting alphabet soup :) but, GCS is probably more accurate than SRS
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: Isabelle on September 20, 2015, 03:59:42 PM
That's why I call it vaginoplasty ;)
(And of course phaloplasty/metiodoplasty for the fellers)
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: OCAnne on September 20, 2015, 04:20:53 PM
Quote from: Isabelle on September 20, 2015, 03:59:42 PM
That's why I call it vaginoplasty ;)
(And of course phaloplasty/metiodoplasty for the fellers)

The paperwork I signed just prior to SRS indicted 4 or 6 procedures as part of the big operation.
Vaginoplasty, Labiaplasty and orchiectomy were among them.
Thank you,
Anne
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: Isabelle on September 20, 2015, 07:41:33 PM
Yes, of course.... The clinical nature of the term is far more inclusive though... Wouldn't you say?
Maybe "corrective genital surgery" would be acceptable to more people... Because only those that feel their genitals are incorrect would seek it? I don't know...
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: AnonyMs on September 20, 2015, 09:04:24 PM
I'd never heard of it before this post, but Gender Correction Surgery is the best and most accurate terminology I've ever come across. I find the way the words keep evolving interesting, away from loaded sex word and the neutral change towards the neutral gender and affirmative fixing. I expect this reflects the social evolution of transgender.

Susan appears to be a believer in the power of words. Me too.
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: Mariah on September 20, 2015, 09:05:36 PM
I agree that this change is far more accurate and represents how I feel. The medical establishment may feel the other term is, but it doesn't represent how I feel in regards to he procedure. Thank You for making the change.
Mariah
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: kellb on September 21, 2015, 04:57:13 AM
It begs the question of what the differences between "sex" and "gender" are.  I had been led to understand that "sex" comprises physical characteristics, while "gender" comprises mental/social traits.

As a respectful counter-point, I'm a non-binary body dysphoric person looking to get my bottom 'fixed' mtf, but still present as male: while I'd like sex-realignment, I don't feel my gender needs 'correcting', per se.
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: AnonyMs on September 21, 2015, 06:19:59 AM
Quote from: kellb on September 21, 2015, 04:57:13 AM
It begs the question of what the differences between "sex" and "gender" are.  I had been led to understand that "sex" comprises physical characteristics, while "gender" comprises mental/social traits.

Sex to many people is what you do in bed so I think its good to get away from that.

Quote from: kellb on September 21, 2015, 04:57:13 AM
As a respectful counter-point, I'm a non-binary body dysphoric person looking to get my bottom 'fixed' mtf, but still present as male: while I'd like sex-realignment, I don't feel my gender needs 'correcting', per se.

I never though of that. Just goes to show how hard it is to get away from the traditional binary viewpoint even when you're crossing it (or stalled in the middle as I currently am). I think Gender might still be good though as isn't your gender non-binary, and the surgery is to align you with that? I must admit I'm a bit confused.
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: kellb on September 21, 2015, 06:29:26 AM
I guess it is confusing!  My "social gender" is fine, and my mental gender is sufficiently ambivalent that male or female exterior, I'd be happy.  It's just my sexual characteristics that I'm unhappy with; my problem is dysphoria, rather than gender acceptance.
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: Serenation on September 21, 2015, 09:08:27 AM
Quote from: Isabelle on September 20, 2015, 07:41:33 PM
Yes, of course.... The clinical nature of the term is far more inclusive though... Wouldn't you say?
Maybe "corrective genital surgery" would be acceptable to more people... Because only those that feel their genitals are incorrect would seek it? I don't know...

thats what I thought, gender correction surgery seems a bit dismissive of non-op transgender folk
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: Susan on September 21, 2015, 01:13:10 PM
This is not a debate. You may freely call it whatever you want. You however may not debate, express disagreement, or argue against what the site is going to call it. (TOS 2) OOannie has been banned for 7 days for forgetting this in her response after one of her posts which crossed the lines was deleted.

I used the word gender because when they hear sex anything many people automatically think sexual intercourse, and once they get that picture in their minds all reason goes out of their brains. "I don't want me or my kids to have sex with someone who used to be a man. We gotta fight this..."

I can't tell you how long it took to convince someone who I see as a brother the simple idea that this was about gender, not sex; it was about making my body reflect the gender I already am. It took him months of soul searching to get past the idea of a person he knew as male having sex as female; to understand my point that my transitioning was about gender and not sex, and he had a trans family member.

That is why we use gender because, transition isn't about sex.
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: Joi on September 21, 2015, 02:40:51 PM
GCS is fine with me, but I often use GRS.  IMO: SRS is a long outdated terminology.  I can remember it's use from back in the '60's when I was 1st experiencing dysphoria,  quite young and attempting to make sense out of something that I could discuss with no one.  Even then, I wondered how one's sex could be "re-assigned."
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: Jill F on September 21, 2015, 02:46:22 PM
Now if we could only me from getting triggered every time the "SRS" light comes on when I start my car.

It mocks me.
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: kittenpower on September 21, 2015, 04:08:46 PM
Quote from: Jill F on September 21, 2015, 02:46:22 PM
Now if we could only me from getting triggered every time the "SRS" light comes on when I start my car.

It mocks me.
It's part of Skynet's master plan.  >:-)
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: Tessa James on September 21, 2015, 06:04:09 PM
If and when i get my desired surgery it will certainly be gender confirming or affirming surgery for this girl. 
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: Serenation on September 22, 2015, 07:53:07 AM
Quote from: Jill F on September 21, 2015, 02:46:22 PM
Now if we could only me from getting triggered every time the "SRS" light comes on when I start my car.

It mocks me.

My last car had SRS on the steering wheel, I can relate
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: islandgirl on October 02, 2015, 09:02:36 AM
We, spouse and I, have been discussing the timing of surgery a lot lately. I am looking at starting the process, which requires provincial assessment, this spring. I have found, at least in my province,  that the surgery is referred to as 'Gender Affirming Surgery'.
Title: Re: GCS vs SRS
Post by: Susan on October 02, 2015, 02:42:22 PM
Affirming makes it sound like you made choice; but you are free to call it what you wish.