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Community Conversation => Transitioning => Coming out of the closet => Topic started by: KatelynBG on October 01, 2015, 07:58:54 AM

Title: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: KatelynBG on October 01, 2015, 07:58:54 AM
So lately I've had a big urge to tell my mom everything. I tried once to do it when I was 18, she saw me fully dressed and asked for some time to process. We didn't talk about it again for awhile and a few months later she came at me with a lot of questions that I wasn't ready to answer (in are you a woman trapped in a man's body?) And I shrugged her off and told her it was just a phase.

Back to modern day times, she's in Florida for a few more weeks before her next visit and then she goes back to Florida again until March. I cannot get her alone when she visits as my dad is attached at the hip with her. I've been debating a letter but can't risk my dad seeing it first. I'm not ready for my dad to know yet. He won't understand and I'm too fragile to risk blowing that up right now.

So that leaves me with email as a possibility, though it leaves a digital footprint that is out of my control. It's also impersonal, but practicality would seem to overrule it. I'd like to include some resources for my mom, and was wondering what others have used with older parents. Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: Sophieraven on October 01, 2015, 02:11:54 PM
I was lucky, i Just Blurted the worst of it out one evening while i was taking my mother out for a drive after she had her latest knee op. Doesn't help you at the moment but i think the best answer is to try and get her own her own and Tell her to her face. Hopefully your dad will understand if you ask to have some time alone with your mum. Good luck however you do it.
Sophie
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: Laura_7 on October 01, 2015, 02:24:14 PM
Quite a few people come out via letter or mail...

Here are some resources:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,196614.msg1750127.html#msg1750127


Often transgender people are sensitive and try to read others expectations...
well knowing might help...


hugs
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: KristinaM on October 01, 2015, 04:05:52 PM
Not to frighten you, but here's my story:

I was sitting in my parent's living room with my mom, dad, and my wife.  I told them to turn the TV off, I had something I wanted to talk about.  So I told them.  My mom sat there in silence, wishing she was dead, while my dad berated me.  So me and my wife got up and left and went home.  I cried for a couple days over that.  My dad wrote me a very nasty letter disowning me.

That was 2 months ago, and my mom has her fingers in her ears going, "Lalalalalala."  She won't seek any help (therapy, counseling, support groups, etc...), in fact she blatantly refuses to do so and says that she has no plans or desire to do so (she told me that today actually).  I'm OK with my dad's reaction, but my mom and I have been close all my life, so I'm hoping she gets on board eventually.  This train is leaving the station with or without her.  Me and my wife live 100 miles away from them, and have for the past 7 years, so they're not stopping me either.

So anyways.  Telling them face to face is the band-aid approach.  I am all for it, but just be prepared for all possible reactions.
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: KatelynBG on October 01, 2015, 05:16:09 PM
Actually I'd be very surprised if they both disowned me. In fact, if my mom was going to do that, she already had a chance to do so.
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: Laura_7 on October 01, 2015, 05:38:24 PM
Quote from: KatelynBG on October 01, 2015, 05:16:09 PM
Actually I'd be very surprised if they both disowned me. In fact, if my mom was going to do that, she already had a chance to do so.

There was a very intelligent post from someone stating it might have a better chance if its possible to talk about things that really move people. Like things that people feel at heart, and being able to talk about it.
If not it might be advisable to work  bit on that... a feeling of understanding for each other and of being able to talk to each other...

in the link above is a link included to a letter of an accepting dad.
Showing parts of it might help. But its up to you, you know them best.


hugs
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: kittenpower on October 01, 2015, 05:50:44 PM
When I told my mom, we went for a walk together, and I told her there was something that I needed to tell her; then there was a long pause as I was trying to muster the courage, and then she said to say whatever it is I needed to say, and I still couldn't get the words out, and then she asked if I wanted to tell her I was gay, and I said no, and then told her I am trans [paraphrase], and then she protested, and there was some serious fallout for a few months, followed by a year of not talking about it, followed by denial and unacceptance for a few years, and then it was all good. You already have a history established with your mom, so you may have an easier time. Best wishes :)
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: KatelynBG on October 07, 2015, 04:31:24 PM
Well the ball is set in motion. I've arranged a lunch date with my mom set for a week from Saturday. I hope I'm not making a mistake.
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: Laura_7 on October 07, 2015, 04:35:37 PM
You might try to explain in a relaxed tone....
its up to you what you say but points might be
it has biological connections, to do with development before birth... so its nobodys fault, not an upbringing or whatever...
and people wil be like their male/female twin, with still the same sense of humour etc...

I'd say try to stay calm... and answer from a point of knowledge, you probably have gathered quite some knowledge from this website, and from others, so you might answer a few questions...

Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: audreelyn on October 08, 2015, 09:54:33 AM
Hey girl, you got this!

I'm preparing to do the same and tell both my parents in the next month or so. They're pretty much the only ones in my life who don't know, and they're both extremely religious so it's bound to go poorly. Another girl at this church came out to her parents and was immediately disowned. I might be at that bridge soon enough.

If I were you, I'd maybe sit them down and start a casual conversation, and nudge in with a news story about a trans person, like Caitlyn, since she's popular, and see how they react. Then depending on how they respond I'd go from there.

Well. What's the worst that can happen? Knowing that too and preparing for it can also make it emotionally easier on you.

Hope it goes well!

Audree
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: KatelynBG on October 16, 2015, 05:06:54 AM
Of course, OF COURSE my mom gets a cold and cancels her trip. Looks like we have to put this off for another week.
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: Laura_7 on October 16, 2015, 06:38:49 AM
Quote from: KatelynBG on October 16, 2015, 05:06:54 AM
Of course, OF COURSE my mom gets a cold and cancels her trip. Looks like we have to put this off for another week.

Well so you have more opportunity to rehearse a bit in thought what you want to say...

and imagine a good outcome  :)


*hugs*
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: KatelynBG on October 16, 2015, 06:40:30 AM
I've been practicing all week. Haha I had it down just the way I wanted it.
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: KatelynBG on October 16, 2015, 07:50:33 PM
So a few weeks ago I told my mom about some of my non-trans marital issues and asked her to keep it in her confidence. Today she told me that she discussed with her best friend. When I became upset, she apologized for telling me, claiming she "need someone to talk to."

All of a sudden I'm doubting my coming out plan that I've spent years thinking about.
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: Laura_7 on October 17, 2015, 04:57:26 AM
Quote from: KatelynBG on October 16, 2015, 07:50:33 PM
So a few weeks ago I told my mom about some of my non-trans marital issues and asked her to keep it in her confidence. Today she told me that she discussed with her best friend. When I became upset, she apologized for telling me, claiming she "need someone to talk to."

All of a sudden I'm doubting my coming out plan that I've spent years thinking about.

See ? So there is some good to it being a bit later.

The best thing might be to have a few points ready to say... important things, and rehearse them...
and otherwise stay flexible because people might act in a way not foreseeable... also in a positive way...

and I'd say keep to a mental picture of a good outcome.
It programs subconsciously for that behaviour.
Like being more open and likely to say the right thing.

Just relax... all will be fine  :)

Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: KristinaM on October 17, 2015, 10:47:56 PM
Well, I know from experience in telling my wife, that our loved ones need people they can talk to about this.  My wife kept it bottled up for like 3 weeks and it was killing her.  I let her tell 2 of her closest friends and it made a world of difference.

So be up front with your mom about that this time.  She didn't tell her friend to hurt you, she did it because she was having issues coping.  And if this is really the path you're going to go down anyways, her friend will surely have to find out eventually.

I know, it sucks, it feels like a betrayal of trust.  My HR department notified the company CEO that I was trans without asking me if it was OK to share that info.  I felt betrayed as well, but it was also kind of a relief to not have to tell him myself.  You'll be OK, I promise.  :)
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: KatelynBG on October 21, 2015, 04:04:06 AM
Ok so after a lot of thinking, I'm still going to do it. The date is set for this coming Sunday at lunch in a restaurant nearby. I'm very nervous about this. I've mentioned to my therapist that this feels like a step I can't come back from after. She very calmly looked at me and said, "It'll feel a bit like getting flushed through a funnel, like an oil change. But the oil does its best work in the engine, not the can." Haha I love that woman. So Sunday is the day I start flushing through the funnel.
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: KristinaM on October 21, 2015, 09:13:28 AM
Good luck!  Are you taking a friend?
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: KatelynBG on October 21, 2015, 11:21:13 AM
No friends, just one on one.
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: Laura_7 on October 21, 2015, 11:53:08 AM
Quote from: KatelynBG on October 21, 2015, 11:21:13 AM
No friends, just one on one.


You might try to relax... mentally rehearse a few things...
and maybe take a walk before and try to calm down...

and mentally keep a picture of a good outcome  :)


*hugs*
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: KatelynBG on October 21, 2015, 12:24:45 PM
Yes I've been rehearsing.

Mom I have something important to tell you. I'm transgender. It's something I've known since I was at least age 8 but something I've only recently been able to accept. When I was a child, I used to fall asleep sobbing and praying to wake up a girl. That obviously never happened so the way I worked it out is that I had a female soul and I just had to live a good male life and then I could spend the rest of eternity as my true self. After Dana (childhood friend) died, I questioned the after life. I've evolved over time to believe there probably isn't a heaven. For me and my childhood resolution this presented a big problem, it meant that I would never be the girl I knew myself to be in my soul.

Mom you saw the effects of this in my death anxiety I've battled my whole adult life, but no one ever knew about this aspect of it. It's something I've suppressed my whole life and I'm tired of it all. I just want to be myself, a woman.

That's the main thrust of my statement to her.
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: Laura_7 on October 21, 2015, 12:47:14 PM
I think its very good  :)

Wish you luck  :)
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: KatelynBG on October 21, 2015, 01:11:04 PM
Thanks. I have a friend and my therapist on standby in case things go wrong but I think everything will go ok.
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: Laura_7 on October 21, 2015, 01:24:59 PM
Quote from: KatelynBG on October 21, 2015, 01:11:04 PM
Thanks. I have a friend and my therapist on standby in case things go wrong but I think everything will go ok.

Keep thinking positive...

maybe you two hugging each other  :)


*hugs*
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: KatelynBG on October 24, 2015, 06:59:07 AM
So tomorrow is the day. I wasn't nervous about it until this morning. Deep breaths, deep breaths. I was so nervous about it my pace on my morning run was a whole minute per mile faster than usual and I didn't even realise it.
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: Peep on October 24, 2015, 11:18:52 AM
Good luck C:
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: Girl Beyond Doubt on October 24, 2015, 11:46:02 AM
Here is just my own twopence:

Don't be insecure. Make the most positive and confident impression you possibly can. If she brings negative preconceptions into your encounter, it may help her feel that you won't be a pathetic, ridiculed heap of misery but rather a strong, proud, beautiful, happy and wise woman.

Show her that you have made up your mind. Make sure she understands that no part of the burden of making the decision lies on her. Don't let her assume even for one second that you are asking for her permission.

Let her understand that you are not as much running away from a bad situation, but rather towards your own life, finally as yourself.

Don't allow her to think that her insecurity and inconvenience hold up in any way against what you had to go through.

Good luck, Katelyn, I wish you love, understanding and acceptance.

You are ready, show it to her!
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: KatelynBG on October 25, 2015, 08:07:04 AM
Thank you all for your support, it all happens today. I am strangely at peace this morning about what is forthcoming. I am confident that it will all go well. I'll update later if people are interested.
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: Cindy on October 25, 2015, 08:46:36 AM
Good luck Honey.

Thinking of you.

Cindy
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: jenifer356 on October 25, 2015, 09:03:21 AM
best of luck - it is a difficult conversation to have - while you might want to ask mom not share it with your dad don't expect or require her to keep it totally secret - she will need to talk with someone about it also just as you do - it takes time and effort for everyone to deal with the issue so let her have the opportunity also

be well - best wishes
jenifer
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: kittenpower on October 25, 2015, 11:59:27 AM
My mom chose to tell everyone after I told her, it was like she was trying to get everyone to harass me so I would change my mind.
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: KatelynBG on October 25, 2015, 01:43:46 PM
So It went really well. It was emotional but she loves me no matter what. I'll post more later but I'm feeling really good right now.
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: Laura_7 on October 25, 2015, 01:47:58 PM
Quote from: KatelynBG on October 25, 2015, 01:43:46 PM
So It went really well. It was emotional but she loves me no matter what. I'll post more later but I'm feeling really good right now.

Congratulations  :)
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: Roxi on October 25, 2015, 01:57:05 PM
Quote from: KatelynBG on October 25, 2015, 01:43:46 PM
So It went really well. It was emotional but she loves me no matter what. I'll post more later but I'm feeling really good right now.

Congratulations! I know how you're feeling I told my mom aswell a few days ago with great results :)
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: jenifer356 on October 25, 2015, 02:14:04 PM
glad it went so well for you - it is always so much easier once those around us know and their support is just icing on the cake

be well
jenifer
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: KatelynBG on October 25, 2015, 04:39:56 PM
Ok so my mom knew ahead of time that I had something important to tell her. We sat down and ordered and chatted until the food came. I took one bite and she's like "so what did you want to tell me?" I stuttered a bit and tears rushed to my eyes. I couldn't get it out. So I collected myself and slowly worked myself into it. I began by telling her that my therapist and I got to the root of my death anxiety and I explained why. She was speechless. Tears were forming at the corner of her eyes. I looked at her and said "Surprised, huh?"

She admitted that she was but still remembered back in high school when I first came out to her and she always wondered if that would be the last she heard about that. So we launched into a long discussion about my plans and my marriage. I told her about a lot of things I remember from my childhood that she never knew and she shared some things with me that I didn't remember. She kept saying little things that make sense now.

She held both of my hands across the table the whole time and that was really nice, she's never done that before. As we were leaving we stopped and had a BIG hug. Afterwards we went for a long drive and kept chatting. So initially she has given me lots of love and a bit of awkwardness. She'll needs some time to process but I don't expect nothing but love and support from mom.
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: KatelynBG on October 25, 2015, 05:49:34 PM
So I emailed my mom with some trans resources because she mentioned that she has a lot to learn. Her response was to say that she needed time to work through it all but then said "Work on standing up straighter and always be proud of yourself. Love MOM"

Such a mom response, I love her.
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: Girl Beyond Doubt on October 25, 2015, 06:11:41 PM
Give her my hugs for being awesome! <3
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: Laura_7 on October 25, 2015, 08:37:55 PM
Quote from: KatelynBG on October 25, 2015, 05:49:34 PM
So I emailed my mom with some trans resources because she mentioned that she has a lot to learn. Her response was to say that she needed time to work through it all but then said "Work on standing up straighter and always be proud of yourself. Love MOM"

Such a mom response, I love her.

Thats a nice answer  :)


hugs
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: KatelynBG on November 05, 2015, 02:27:16 AM
I had a particularly hard day yesterday with the dysphoria and my mom noticed on the phone that something was wrong and got me talking. Then she said something like "You are so brave to finally try to live the life you've always wanted. It's not going to be easy and a lot of people won't accept you. But you should be proud of who you are."

Amazing.
Title: Re: Wanting to come out to my mom
Post by: Laura_7 on November 05, 2015, 05:19:26 PM
Quote from: KatelynBG on November 05, 2015, 02:27:16 AM
I had a particularly hard day yesterday with the dysphoria and my mom noticed on the phone that something was wrong and got me talking. Then she said something like "You are so brave to finally try to live the life you've always wanted. It's not going to be easy and a lot of people won't accept you. But you should be proud of who you are."

Amazing.

Congratulations  :)


*hugs*