I am a sex worker and it has never been clocked but it's because I keep the room dimly lit and keep my vagina in certain positions. Be honest, has anyone ever clocked your vag? Also, does it feel the same in the inside as a cisgender vagina does? I've never had sex with a female so I wouldnt know.
Not to sound like a huge douche, but I've seen my fair share of vaginas, and to be honest, there's so much natural variation among cis women (and trans guys!) that's I can't imagine how someone /could/ clock you? Unless it was from scars or something.
I mean, I totally get the anxiety about it, but if I met a dude who said he could spot the difference, I'd basically assume he was copping to inexperience. Or maybe being REALLY well versed in neo-vaginas. Idk. Anyway, I guess now I'm kind of curious about people's experiences.
You don't sound like a douche at all. Thats kind of what I think. I look at porn to "study" vaginas and they all look so different. To myself I say a guy really has to study your vagina to notice but the anxiety is still there....even if they did clock I don't think they'd be 100% sure I think.
I totally agree. All genitalia looks different, just like everyone has a face, we just all look different. If someone asked and you didnt want to say, you could just say that you were born with ambiguous genitalia and it was corrected.
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Well, I had a gynecologist who couldn't tell...
As for the feeling inside, mine is a bit "slicker" than my wife's - she has more ridges and wrinkles in there - but from what I hear of other women that's another of those things for which there's a whole spectrum of possibilities and she merely seems to be closer to one end of it.
I tend to agree that the variation is SO large that only something like scars might out you (and even then, particularly in the sex work business, you could claim to have had the cosmetic labiaplasty that cis women get to pretty things up down there). Porn actually doesn't even show most of the variety. :) There was a campaign at one point to do like 1,000 pictures of vulvas, and there are cis women with no inner labia/very large clits/unhooded clits/no fourchette/etc.
Google "The Great Wall of Vagina Panels"
Mine looks like No. 226, or maybe No. 318 .... or No. 12,372
Have a nice day....
Mine has never being clocked..
Honestly most guys I don't think will even be able to tell.
Aside from appearance, there could be other things that could be called into question. For instance does your partner perceive the scent of your vagina to be similar to the scent of the other women he or she has been with? Also if you are not self lubricating (especially if you are younger) your partner may wonder about that? And if you are an older woman with a super tight vagina, that could be called into question as well. Another concern could be lack of depth. Just one of these issues probably wouldn't make your partner suspicious about anything, but two or more may, and unless you are 100% passable in every other way, they could start to put 2 and 2 together.
Ifit is well made it is very unlikly that it can be clocked. A penile inversion can be clocked because of the lack of depth and self-lubrication. And my docs produce visible scars.
A well made Suporn or Schaff Vagina is hard to clock.
Here was a similar discussion:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,149304.msg1682002.html#msg1682002
Imo if there are no other obvious hints like old pics or friends who tell I'd say very few people would think of it...
and if someone is tight all the better for the guy...
if they bottom out they have something to brag about...
hugs
Here were some hints concerning smell:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,190841.msg1700440.html#msg1700440
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For the record, I had penile inversion and I do self-lubricate and have adequate depth. I agree that one anomaly probably isn't enough to raise eyebrows, either. Some cis women *do* have cosmetic surgery or "tightening" surgery, so that may not even qualify as an anomaly if the explanation is delivered convincingly enough.
Same as Jenna for me with procedure, lubrication and depth. Never been questioned despite some very close up opportunities (I had no idea that guys like to lick it so much). Perhaps it is our famed English reserve and the guys just think it is rude to ask! lol
In theory of course its possible, because great though surgery is there are always minor differences that I can very easily spot, but then I'm medically trained and I'm also the proud owner of one myself, so I'm hardly the average Joe!
Would or could someone else spot those clues? Theoretically perhaps, but in general I doubt if anyone would really want to be bothered, because at that point they are likely to be thinking of other things.
So its probably a scenario with no right answer...
Could they? well maybe.
Would they? probably not.
Would I rely on that to keep me safe - never!
Would I personally always tell somebody first in order to protect myself from possible violence? Absolutely 100% yes.
And at 55 having lived almost all my adult life as a postop female I can safely say that has worked well for me.
Here is another comparison site where you can see the great variation.
I am told that there are a few MTF pictures on this site, so see if you can clock them :)
http://www.vulvavelvet.org/pictures.html
Caroline
I think most people are really so buzzed about it when they get to be busy with your vulva there is not a lot of analysis going on. If it is tight, bonus, if it is too tight you just work at it. If you can get the end of your penis in and you dig that chick then you likely have a happy fella.
When you sleep with women they tend to spend a little more time eye to eye with your vag, But saying that I have not been 'clocked' - mine feels and smells different but then so does everyone else's. The bonus with sleeping with women is you don't need much room for a finger or two, and you can always buy yourself a smaller dildo and it is ok to bring your own (and actually if you are being safe and all it is most likely preferable to bring your own!).
I have a friend with less than 4 inches and she gets no complaints from the guys- I think we worry far too much about depth, it has less relevance than many of us think. I can't help thinking the obsession with depth is like a reverse hangover from men worrying about length.
Quote from: Lara1969 on October 07, 2015, 02:11:45 PM
Ifit is well made it is very unlikly that it can be clocked. A penile inversion can be clocked because of the lack of depth and self-lubrication. And my docs produce visible scars.
A well made Suporn or Schaff Vagina is hard to clock.
Suporns results page shows scars
And I agree Nicole99
Quote from: Laura_7 on October 07, 2015, 02:14:54 PM
and if someone is tight all the better for the guy...
That is very true, a tight vagina is a wow factor with some guys, I've asked my husband many times how I compare with other women, he dated many cis women before me, he has said it's very hard to tell the difference, but my vagina is ''nice and tight'' just the way he likes it, that's been a great vote of confidence in me as a woman, it's never been ''clocked'' but I remember a guy commenting many years ago ''gosh you are a tight girl'' but he said it in a complementary way making me blush lol, probably doesn't have the same stretch as a cis vagina, but still very satisfying to most men who are so glad to get their manhood in, they don't even notice, when it's nice and tight the love it even more.
Quote from: pretty pauline on October 15, 2015, 03:56:19 PM
That is very true, a tight vagina is a wow factor with some guys, I've asked my husband many times how I compare with other women, he dated many cis women before me, he has said it's very hard to tell the difference, but my vagina is ''nice and tight'' just the way he likes it, that's been a great vote of confidence in me as a woman, it's never been ''clocked'' but I remember a guy commenting many years ago ''gosh you are a tight girl'' but he said it in a complementary way making me blush lol, probably doesn't have the same stretch as a cis vagina, but still very satisfying to most men who are so glad to get their manhood in, they don't even notice, when it's nice and tight the love it even more.
My boyfriend also says, he loves how tight I am. I am glad he fits his manhood inside, as he quite well endowed
Quote from: noleen111 on October 16, 2015, 10:05:47 AM
My boyfriend also says, he loves how tight I am. I am glad he fits his manhood inside, as he quite well endowed
There are dilators which are bigger than the orange one..
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,193587.msg1726705.html#msg1726705
if necessary it might be possible to dilate beforehand, or dilate a bit regularly...
but I'd not exaggerate...
some guys are too big, and should know it already... so anal with a condom might be a possibility...
The fastest mine has been 'clocked' at is 115km/hr(downhill skiing).It's definitely been faster(aircraft etc) but I like the romance of having no mechanical assistance!
Well, I've been with my BF since I was pre-op, so . . .
Visually I am OK. Internally, he says that I get tighter the farther in he goes, as opposed to a natal woman who's tighter at the entrance and more open inside.
Based on the men I've dated, I think you're giving them too much credit for their observation skills. Most of them are doing well to notice when you cut off a foot of hair.
Quote from: Michelle-G on October 18, 2015, 01:23:29 PM
he says that I get tighter the farther in he goes
Which should be a mans dream :)
clocked no. but i have had two men (at different times) get upset because i needed to use KY. they both told me the same thing ,"If i cant get you wet whats the problem? you dont really like me?"
this is why i went back for the Colon procedure.
Quote from: warmbody28 on November 09, 2015, 09:16:22 PM
clocked no. but i have had two men (at different times) get upset because i needed to use KY. they both told me the same thing ,"If i cant get you wet whats the problem? you dont really like me?"
this is why i went back for the Colon procedure.
There are studies showing the neovagina might turn into a mucosa over time.
Some people additionally use estrogen cream to dilate from time to time.
The hormonal influence fron hrt and from cream can help turn into a mucosa.
Some people say there is a very slippery substance coming from the urethra...
so not holding in, and maybe using the toilet beforehand so its clear its a glandular product what is flowing, might help...
*hugs*
Quote from: Laura_7 on November 10, 2015, 05:25:45 AM
There are studies showing the neovagina might turn into a mucosa over time.
Some people additionally use estrogen cream to dilate from time to time.
The hormonal influence fron hrt and from cream can help turn into a mucosa.
Some people say there is a very slippery substance coming from the urethra...
so not holding in, and maybe using the toilet beforehand so its clear its a glandular product what is flowing, might help...
*hugs*
thank you for the information. but after 3 years i figured i would just go ahead with the colon option. still never have been clocked though ;D
After 13 years I have had no complaints or questions regarding that. In fact, when in the heat of the moment I really do not think many guys are going to have that first and foremost on their mind as most of them are more concerned with their own performance.
Anal? I paid good money for a vagina!
A lover commented my vagina looked average.......guess that's good, right?
This 'experienced lover' climaxed very quickly. Guess it or I was that good!
Thank you,
Anne