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Community Conversation => Transitioning => Topic started by: TheMissingM on October 16, 2015, 07:06:04 PM

Title: I don't know what I should do and admittedly, I'm very scared. (Herbals)
Post by: TheMissingM on October 16, 2015, 07:06:04 PM
Hi everyone,

I'm kind of seeking advice and I'm pretty scared to leap on a decision quite yet but I would like to know some others opinion on the matter.

To start with I've been on a herbal product for five years of my life and to begin with it was my only option... and it wouldn't shock me if I learn now it's a scam but I've been on this product for 5 years and it has made minor changes to my body, which is equal to changing one diets and one not. However now I'm at a point where I can use the money being invested on these pills for seeing a therapist and starting HRT but I'm scared of possibly having things backfire on me.

I started taking these herbal products which I won't be linking in fear of breaking rules and guidelines, because I didn't have the option to see a therapist at first for multiple reasons. One of which was lack of transportation and another was my peers weren't accepting of my idea of transition and I wanted to do it in secret at the time.

However I'm at a point now where the money I'm spending monthly on these hormones could be used on investing for a therapist to get a proper assessment done then used in starting HRT, since I don't want to break any rules I won't mention any products but I'm spending around $100 a month on these herbal products and they might of had an effect on my body in the 5 years I've been taking them, but it's also possible the other methods I do (Brain Frequencies, diet change) are what really has been altering my body to the extent it has been. (I'm full time and have been for the past three years)

So my question is.. should I drop the herbal pills and put the money toward seeing a therapist?

The reason I'm even asking this is because I'm scared of possible remasculizing.
Title: Re: I don't know what I should do and admittedly, I'm very scared. (Herbals)
Post by: Dena on October 16, 2015, 07:22:18 PM
I would vote for dropping the herbals because most are ineffective and those that aren't are pretty dangerous. You body will change very little if any while getting treatment. As for the breaking the rules, your best bet is to be honest with the doctors. They will understand how strong the desire is in you and understand if you don't get the treatment you need, you will return to the dangerous practice of self medication.
Title: Re: I don't know what I should do and admittedly, I'm very scared. (Herbals)
Post by: Promethea on October 16, 2015, 07:28:52 PM
I second dropping the herbals, and I'm a naturist who would prefer to use only natural products.

Those herbals are not HRT, they're only supplements meant for cis women who produce a little less estrogen than they should and who only produce a little bit of testosterone.

To overpower the testosterone your body produces and reach the estrogen levels of a cis woman you need to get really close to the toxicity levels of some of their components. Even more risky if you're self medicating. I know of someone who is in a wheelchair due to those products, so I really really think advocating or recommending them shouldn't be allowed here, for the safety of all (and liability).
Title: Re: I don't know what I should do and admittedly, I'm very scared. (Herbals)
Post by: Ms Grace on October 16, 2015, 07:34:21 PM
You might re masculinise a bit if you drop the herbals but truth be told they probably didn't do all that much for you anyway, they don't seem to for the majority of people. Seeing a therapist and an endo will get you closer to using proper medication and being medically monitored. Even if you did remasculinise the HRT would mostly likely reverse that in short order.
Title: Re: I don't know what I should do and admittedly, I'm very scared. (Herbals)
Post by: TheMissingM on October 17, 2015, 12:24:49 PM
Thanks everyone, for your advice. I'm going to do further research on the herbals but so far I'm most likely considering dropping them and putting that money toward a therapist. Now I just need to start contacting and find out who has experience with a transgendered client around here and hopefully find someone willing to do an assessment as I'm 100% certain of my identity.
Title: Re: I don't know what I should do and admittedly, I'm very scared. (Herbals)
Post by: kaitylynn on October 17, 2015, 01:14:45 PM
Will not go in to detail about what I am using, but it has been effective.  Blood tests confirmed a few weeks ago what I already knew; the "treatment" worked.  Tried to drop "the natural method" as I am been approved for endo guided HRT.  Not one of my brighter ideas.  Did not know which way was up for a week.  Might consider gradually reducing the dosages you are using till you are clear of them.
Title: Re: I don't know what I should do and admittedly, I'm very scared. (Herbals)
Post by: clearleeraines on October 31, 2015, 12:18:28 PM
I cannot judge you. I did premarin for two years DIY. It is dangerous! a clot can cause a stroke or worse, My father had a stroke @59 and he was crippled, this is a guy 6'3" 240lbs and went 15 hrs a day full throttle. he was this lil girls hero. YOU DON'T WANT THAT!. i did not get much out of what i was doing. My Dr states its more important to reduce T than raise E. Men have E its just lower than hers. You reduce your T under 200 and you start feminizing without even taking any E. I did, a lot, more than with just a E. I am prolly breaking the rules but if your going to do it and WE will! LORD!.
take the dosage a post hister sister would AND NO MORE! drink lots of water and low dose aspirin. IF YOU HAVE ANY HEALTH PROBLEMS DON'T DO IT, DON'T BE STUPID! less "IS" more, remember you already have E! That's why you really need a Dr! "CUZ YOU NEED LESS T!!!" women have less T GET IT!
So I beg you be responsible go to the dr! please! Then you have peace of mind and you know your fastest safest result! be prepared to be TIRED A LOT!! ???
Mx Clear Raines 

I am under a Dr's care now, and have been for sometime, I took a long time to get my T under 200, I am very healthy in my 50's my T was over 800+. If you kill it all at once ur gonna die! "kidding" your just gonna feel like it believe me! I could not move you have very low energy for a long time till you body adjusts. TODAY we have more and more help in the usa you have affordable care act and california more options. Just about now you can get HRT anywhere in the USA. I had no letter, no nothing, just a impassioned plea to my dr explaining my situation and RLE 2 yrs.