How DO surgeons perform a sex change? Eye-watering animation reveals every stage of how a man becomes a woman
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3346063/How-surgeons-perform-sex-change-Eye-watering-animation-reveals-stage-man-woman.html
The Daily Mail/By Madlen Davies for MailOnline
Published: 09:37 EST, 4 December 2015 | Updated: 11:16 EST, 4 December 2015
"Male to female surgery involves removing the penis and testicles
A vagina is then formed from the skin of the penis and the urethra
The head of the penis, known as the glans, is used to make a clitoris
The labia - the vaginal lips - are made from the skin of the scrotum "
I think I'm too chicken to watch!
OMG! I did see a picture of my SRS taken during the bloody process. It was not pretty with no soothing instrumental accompaniment. Sure happy I was asleep the whole time.
Thankful to be lucky enough to undergo the process. Very much feel I'm living a miracle.
Thank you,
Anne
I was going to say, the looped acoustic guitar background music seemed a bit incongruous. Pretty impressive animation, though.
It is amazing how much they have developed this technique to preserve as many nerves and as much tissue as possible. I guess SRS is like making laws or sausages - you don't want to know how it is done.
Terri
I would like to have the opportunity to be in the OR, and observe a full FFS, and SRS.
One of the surgeons that does this kind of procedure has a video on their web page that shows the operation in all its glory.. The first time I watched it I went Ouch!
Suporn gives his patients a USB stick with photos taken during the surgery. Really detailed and gory stuff. I made the mistake of looking at some I found on Internet once. Years later and I'm still trying to forget.
I'd say it was much more fun to be in theatre and assisting... ;)
I think we have very very different idea's of fun.
popcorn anyone?
Quote from: Lagertha on December 04, 2015, 05:02:22 PM
Actually you do want to.. into all details. Because only that can help you understand the differences among different techniques, leading to different results, and it's the only way to know which surgeon to choose.
I'll agree with that. But there is a world of difference knowing how something is done, and watching it being done. At least for me.
Terri
Really interesting. Maybe we should sticky this in the GRS section so people can see it when they're considering surgery.
Though, I'm glad I waited until I was post-op to see it.
Wow, great video. I had no idea how it was done! Well, I had SOME idea, but not even close of what it showed!
Now I want to see a real SRS video! lol
Not something to watch 5 days before the surgery.
I want to run away.....
It's quite informative . I still can't get the video of an actual operation on the surgeon's web page out of my head , the first time I saw that I was mentally looking for a corner to crawl into.
Quote from: Rejennyrated on December 04, 2015, 05:34:07 PM
I'd say it was much more fun to be in theatre and assisting... ;)
Quote from: AnonyMs on December 04, 2015, 05:39:45 PM
I think we have very very different idea's of fun.
Ha, yes I agree! ;D
Quote from: JLT1 on December 04, 2015, 08:04:35 PM
Not something to watch 5 days before the surgery.
I want to run away.....
Considering I still am years away from attaining that goal, I would switch places with you in a heartbeat. You'll do great!
Hugs,
Terri
There's a nice scientific/medical paper out there (detailing a specialized form of penile inversion) with pictures and diagrams of every step. It's my backup plan if guys don't stop asking and I'm tired of education them.
Fascinating :) Should I ever want to have GRS I've now got a much clearer idea of what is involved.
This is the method used by Suporn in Thailand and I presume most of the surgeons in the USA. There is an alternative (which I will undergo) called "scrotal skin inversion" this is the technique that Chettawut uses. His method uses the scrotal skin for the vaginal vault and the penile skin is use for the labia.
Wish there was a similar animation of this type.
Quote from: Joi on December 05, 2015, 01:10:17 PM
This is the method used by Suporn in Thailand and I presume most of the surgeons in the USA. There is an alternative (which I will undergo) called "scrotal skin inversion" this is the technique that Chettawut uses. His method uses the scrotal skin for the vaginal vault and the penile skin is use for the labia.
Wish there was a similar animation of this type.
No. This method (as presented in video) is called penile-urethral flap, and is practiced (is similar varieties) in some european countries (yes, some still perform SRS with exposed clitoris-without hooding). The technique most surgeons use today in USA is penile inversion with scrotal graft. Its a little different surgery. Urethra is used for clitoral hooding and inner labia minora. Vaginal wall is created in same the same way with penile flap, but the lower half is created with scrotal graft. This approach is also used by Brassard and other half of European surgeons and most Thai surgeons (PAI, etc...).
There is another technique which was invented by dr. Suporn, and later copied by dr. Chettawut and dr. Saran. Its called non-penile inversion. Whole available penile skin is used for labia minora and labia majora, which gives a lot more natural apperance, not only because of more realistic labia minora, but also because it avoids using scrotal skin for labia majora. Whole scrotal skin graft is used for vaginal wall. The difference of Suporns technique to other two, is that Suporn keeps all corpora cavernosa, and integrates it exactly how it is in biological females, while the other two remove most of it. Second large difference is that Chettawut and Saran use normal scrotal skin graft, while Suporn uses "meshed" perforated skin graft, as its used for skin transplantation after severe burn injuries. He is in this way able to create 6-8 inch depth, while the Chettawut and Saran generally create around 5 inch depth, and they often need to additionally use groin or abdominal skin graft to achieve adequate depth (5-6inch). Meshed graft in large percentage leads to transformation into mucosal tissue and adequate self lubrication. Another difference to other two is that Suporn doesnt discard excessive glans material, but uses it to create secondary sensate organ which is placed near to vaginal entrance.
Quote from: Joi on December 05, 2015, 01:10:17 PM
This is the method used by Suporn in Thailand and I presume most of the surgeons in the USA. There is an alternative (which I will undergo) called "scrotal skin inversion" this is the technique that Chettawut uses. His method uses the scrotal skin for the vaginal vault and the penile skin is use for the labia.
Wish there was a similar animation of this type.
Wow. Using the penile skin for the labia minora is a great idea considering it's the analogous to the ventral skin of the penis. Genius.
This is how you make a graphic procedure... well graphic. ;)
This is my new "how to tell that you're trans." If you can watch that without cringing and even be fascinated, you are definitely MtF!
Here I go guys, wish me luck! :-\
Well that was very interesting and well produced, glad I saw this actually, makes me feel better about GRS :)
now your ready for the real time video
Quote from: Dee Marshall on December 09, 2015, 12:55:49 PM
This is my new "how to tell that you're trans." If you can watch that without cringing and even be fascinated, you are definitely MtF!
I don't think it works. I couldn't get very far into it.
Quote from: AnonyMs on December 09, 2015, 07:07:25 PM
I don't think it works. I couldn't get very far into it.
All good tests err on one side or the other. This would exclude some of one side or the other which is why I framed my statement like that. This test errs with False negatives...
Quote from: Dee Marshall on December 09, 2015, 07:55:49 PM
All good tests err on one side or the other. This would exclude some of one side or the other which is why I framed my statement like that. This test errs with False negatives...
That's an unusually precise way of thinking, and makes me wonder what you do for a job...
Quote from: AnonyMs on December 09, 2015, 08:29:46 PM
That's an unusually precise way of thinking, and makes me wonder what you do for a job...
At the moment I work in a Walmart, but in the past I've worked in mental health, wrote software for corporate finance and worked in a laboratory designing specialized research equipment. ;)
Oh, and one other job requiring very precise thinking but federal law precludes me discussing it.
Quote from: Dee Marshall on December 09, 2015, 09:44:03 PM
At the moment I work in a Walmart, but in the past I've worked in mental health, wrote software for corporate finance and worked in a laboratory designing specialized research equipment. ;)
Oh, and one other job requiring very precise thinking but federal law precludes me discussing it.
That's about what I thought, apart from Walmart anyway. No doubt there's a story behind it all. Not sure I should ask anymore seeing as how I never say anything about what I do, and its off topic.
When I saw the video I thought it was fascinating and had no cringe reaction at all. But on the other hand I've been cut around down there so much in my life I wasn't bothered by it.
Quote from: AnonyMs on December 09, 2015, 10:03:12 PM
That's about what I thought, apart from Walmart anyway. No doubt there's a story behind it all. Not sure I should ask anymore seeing as how I never say anything about what I do, and its off topic.
If you ask me privately I'll be happy to tell you my story, except for that one job.
This is one of the reasons I remain a woman with a penis.
Bring it on!
Just watched this video with my friend who just had stomach surgery. She said she had no idea it was so involved. She did manage to sit all the way through it.
Well, I thought it was fascinating. But then when I was learning to read, I would sneak my mother's nursing textbooks out of her bookshelves and try to read them. They had some interesting surgical pictures.
the real time part Not for the squeamish bring on the Anesthesia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9TGQIP-VLg