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I thought about making this poll this morning while preparing to head to dialysis. For me, the thought of wearing bras makes my stomach so sour that my eyes start to burn on the verge of turnin 100% bloodshot full of rage. However, the thought of wearing panties does make me dysphoric but not even close to the level of dysphoria I experienced every day of my life just from wearing a stupid bra cause I was socialized to do so and I've got a rather large bust that is not hard to notice without the aid of a very good binder. In a way, I am thankful I do have a bit of a beer belly because it blocks my view from seeing the incorrect genitalia I currently possess from birth. Heck, I hate puttin' a bra on so much that I totally avoid certain binders that resemble a bra a bit too much even if its better (and safer) to wear during work outs or other strenuous activity.

I despise bras to the point that I do not even open the drawer they currently reside in. Once I am more independent, therefore owning more freedom and after I have these tumors on my chest removed I will set fire to them; bonfire style and have a moment of silence. This shall signify a huge step in my journey to not only being man, but becoming man.

So what do all you transguys out there say about this?

Hm, good question! I have more bottom dysphoria (both with my junk and also with my hips) than top dysphoria, and I hate hate hate accentuating things with feminine underwear. Women's boyshort style is fine, but stuff with a girly pattern, skimpy cut, or god forbid, some material like silk or lace makes me feel like absolute garbage.

I used to wear a bra all the time and I had no issue with it. In fact, I think one of the reasons why I didn't realise I was trans until I was 19/20 was because I wore a firm fitting underwire bra all the time (even in my sleep) and that really minimised movement of my chest. Much easier to forget about! That said, these days, wearing a bra will make me feel worse than wearing women's underwear because ordinarily, I bind every day. I've gotten used to seeing myself without an obvious chest, and the whiplash feels awful!

So I'm not 100% sure how to answer, haha.

Good question :). It's been a while since I've had to wear both but I think it was the bra (it's interesting how different trans men either have a lot of bottom dysphoria or a lot of top dysphoria). When I got my first binder I couldn't stop touching my chest and openly strutted outside glad that I could finally just wear a tshirt without a jumper to hide my moobs. I think I didn't mind panties so much because I'm quite fem and don't have much bottom dysphoria unless I have to see or think about my junk. But boxers are so much comfier than panties, I think we should let females in on this secret ;)

Bras.

Guys wear briefs too, and I tend to wear neutral style thongs. Yeah I know, thongs... once you get used to them though, they're better than anything else. I actually kinda like the fundoshi style a lot too. It's hella comfortable and completely adjustable for whatever crotch size a person has. Samurai underwear.

The day I can throw my bras away will be a great day.

I stopped wearing bras as soon as I started binding, and I stopped wearing girl's underwear way before that. My mom was super supportive of whatever made me most comfortable as a kid, so when I asked for boxers I got boxers. I wore sports bras up until I got my first binder at 17, and I kept a few around for those random days where I didn't feel like binding. I didn't hate them too much. They were actually really good at flattening.

I've never worn anything super girly. I think I had only worn a dress once past childhood? I know anything like that would've made me miserable, and I was able to avoid it for the most part.

I haven't owned a 'regular' bra since I was like... 13. Maybe. The first time I wore a 'regular' bra(padded with the hook clasps) I hated it. I hated how it look, felt, blah. So I went to wearing sports bras and always wear those (unpadded, just regular sports bras, and they actually help me look a bit flat too, but I'm not terribly endowed).

I kind of like the thought of wearing frilly lacey 'panties'(hate that word xD) while wearing my packer lol. But it's interesting how I'm more okay with 'panties' than I am with bras, considering I have MUCH more bottom dysphoria. I wouldn't wear them without my packer. But I wouldn't wear a normal bra under any circumstance.

I haven't worn a bra for like a year, and God knows that was a relief, to say "stop, These make me feel awful, I won't wear them anymore" ^^ I did not know that I was trans yet, I didn't realise, but it kinda helped me feel better back then.
But when I came out to myself, my first step was to throw all my panties away, and to buy boxers and a packer.
So I think that both make me dysphoric, even though I would say that panties and bottom parts made me more dysphoric than top ^^

After giving this some actual thought, I had to say that definitely bras. Like MeganeRei, I actually like the idea of more "feminine" panties, although my top dysphoria is actually much greater than bottom dysphoria. I do feel both, though, and in a perfect world I'd have male genitalia to cover with the panties. I just like lace and soft materials and in general have trouble understanding that clothes could have a gender. But somehow bras are just useless and annoying and incredibly dysphoria-inducing. Maybe because cis guys don't usually wear bras. I mean, cis guys don't usually wear panties either, I'm told, but they do have to wear some kind of underwear around their lower parts anyway. I don't know if any of this made any sense.

Bras are definatly the worst for me too. I still hate the ones with the hooks I would refuse to wear then as a kid. Then I got into sports bras. But I agree that looking at the bras kills me. My chest is small so iv been wearing a binder pretty often.


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Bras, definitely. I started wearing them I was 11, went for 25 years, and finally had enough. I'm saving up to buy one more binder, so that I have a spare, and then the bras are all going to go in the garbage. With much rejoicing. I had to wash my binder yesterday, and I haven't left the house because I just couldn't put one of those things on.

As to down below, I've been wearing boxers and briefs for ages (I always wore jeans under my dresses, even to work, so not a problem).

Man! I'm surprised I'm the only one who's bothered by women's underwear, haha. For me, a bra was a functional item for locking ->-bleeped-<- in place. Girls underwear was like... instantly appalling, haha. Why on earth would I wear it when I could just wear normal underwear? I was wearing boxers at 12, but I didn't ditch the bra until I was 20. :P

Definitely the underwear for me. I've had to swap between my binder and sports bras a few times with only minor issues. But I will jump through any hoops to avoid going back to girl's underwear. It makes me feel awful wearing it.

When wearing women's underwear (even boy shorts), the idea of going without pants was appalling. Even in the dead heat of summer, I would wear pants, as if to compensate for something not feeling right. But since switching to men's underwear (comfy as hell boxer briefs), I don't even think about it. The idea of switching back is horrifying.

Quote from: captains on December 06, 2015, 03:33:52 AM
Man! I'm surprised I'm the only one who's bothered by women's underwear, haha. For me, a bra was a functional item for locking ->-bleeped-<- in place. Girls underwear was like... instantly appalling, haha. Why on earth would I wear it when I could just wear normal underwear? I was wearing boxers at 12, but I didn't ditch the bra until I was 20. :P

Maybe because there's two kinds of women's underwear, functional and ...flashy?

Functional women's underwear can be plain, black/dark colors etc., and not look drastically different from certain types of men's underwear. Tbh when I think of the sort of women's underwear I used to buy simply because it fit my ass better, it would always be the type that was plain and black. I would never have the "white panties" image or the "French lingerie" image in my mind.

That said I wear boxes, thongs or the fundoshi type now, all of which are either male-looking or unisex. Flashy underwear's a no no for me. Plus I dunno how women can handle the lace part on flashy panties. Irritating as hell on the skin!

I'm actually wearing a pink sports bra right now hahaha. I have to make it into a bit of a joke, though. I'll look in the mirror and tell myself, "Man, what a drag queen! Except, you look ridiculous in that!" (unlike most real drag queens who do not look ridiculous) I got it because 1) super cheap, 2) I've been having rib muscle problems due to stress where binding makes it worse and 3) it has a front zipper so I can have it loose without having to change when it's not needed. I'm small enough so it flattens me out very nicely.

Panties -shudder- the name, even. I have more bottom dysphoria than top (still can't wait to exorcise them off me, however) so that would be my bane.

I picked both bras and panties. But what's really funny about this is that I'm into women. And seeing a beautiful woman in a bra and panties is such a beautiful thing. Now, if you come up to me and put a bra up to my chest (I'm post op) or a pair of panties up to my lower area I may just punch you in the face.

My relatives have yet to know that I've had top surgery and with Christmas coming up I'm nervous that someone might buy me a bra. Why? Most of my family members have this thing with "not believing what they see".

Basically their logic is: Oh, you are probably wearing that really super tight sports bra (which is a binder) because you don't have enough money for a nice proper fitting bra. Let me get you a few from Victoria's Secret. ~facepalm~

I'm not yet sure how my family will react this Christmas and I am very nervous about gifting this year when it comes to me actually getting gifts from my non supportive/clueless family. (I'm referring to extended family).

I don't know what I'll do or say if someone does get me a bra.

Probably bras?  Honestly I haven't worn either since middle school except when I needed padding to give my cleavage in a certain tight top.  Drove my mom crazy.  I just never understood the point of either.  I now wear men's boxer briefs to pack, but I have seen lots of men in women's style undies so that bothers me less than wearing bras, which usually make the chest more effiminate.  (Sports bras with no lift don't bother me at all.). Really it's my chest that gives me dysphoria, not the garment, so that's why I say neither, really.  If I had no boobs then I wouldn't mind wearing bras at all (except that they are hella uncomfortable).  I guess since I never wore them I don't associate either with femininity.

I've always hated the word "bra" or "bras" too. Brassiere's bit more handleable but having to ask my other half if they've seen any clean bras around... well, no, I rarely do that, but... yeah.

Bra. BRA.

No.

I'd say both equally, though bras are the worst.

Your subject line makes me dysphoric...

Not a question I really think about but I would have to say both but its been a long time since I've had to wear either. Before going on T I use to wear panties during my periods and I absolutely hated how tight they felt in the front. As for bras, I use to wear ones that didn't really fit me so I couldn't really feel they were there but it was mostly annoying looking down. Abandoned those, don't even really wear my sports bra anymore because I either bind or wear nothing which would be the less dysphoria inducing if I just never look down.

I feel very dysphoric thinking about wearing the really bra type bras. Fortunally I've never worn those, all I ever had were sportsbras, which in the end, looked very much like the binders I had after that.

And for underwear, I've always had very neutral (black mostly) womens boxers, so apart from not having a buldge when not packing they weren't much of a problem (besides being less comfortable than guys boxerbriefs).

I gave up wearing panties a few years ago, now only boxers with a fly; I use tampons so boxers work even during shark week as well.  Haven't had a real bra in years either, now only a sports bra or binder depending on what I am wearing, during the winter with hoodies sports bra work great.  Have to wear something to hold them tight, I don't want to feel any bouncing of them at all.

Thank you all for this post!!  I found a way that I don't have to actually bond but yet not wear a bra. Searched underarm our after reading this.  Been wearing boxers for 20 years so that I took care of first.  Thought I'd be screwed until top surgery for top dysphoria until reading this I learned there are bras that almost function as flattening.  Right now my top dysphoria is the worst.


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Panties. The name in and of itself brings on a sense of disgust that I can't really explain nor justify. I've never called them that, beyond that one time just then. To me they're undies or underwear. I wore boys briefs as a kid, though changed to girls briefs during puberty for some reason. I moved with my mother then, so that's probably why. My first transition step was to purchase boxer briefs. Can't believe I didn't start wearing them earlier, they're so much more comfortable!

As for bras, I can deal with them. To me they're just another form of clothing. It's more uncomfortable to not wear one, as such I generally sleep with one on (a loose one). I don't wear them when binding though, only because my binder does a better job at keeping my chest in one place.

Funny, but I stopped wearing female underwear long before I transitioned. And because of fabric allergies, I never wore a bra anyway. Heaven knows I tried lots of different brands and styles, but even 8% spandex made life impossible for me.

Back in the eighties, that bralessness attracted a lot of attention (often unwanted) from men and got me branded as "fast" at work. Ironically, transition both cured my allergies (T and less identity-related stress, I guess) and (through surgery) removed the need for a bra in the first place.

Pre-transition I never wore a classic bra. I only could handle a sports bra and even then I'd buy them too small because I had no idea what the hell I was doing. Guess I was binding before I knew it lol. Underwear never really made me dysphoric either, cause I see it as just a fabric. I was so stoked when I bought boxers for the first time, so... neither?

Bras for me.  My bottom dysphoria is WAAAAAAAAAY worse than the top, but bras are more dysphoric for me.  They are more of a hassle to deal with.....even with sports bras. Actually, I prefer female underwear to boxers.  Having male underwear with a hole for urination, etc. would make me more dysphoric knowing that I don't have the proper biological package to utilize that garment to the best of my abilities.  Female underwear on the other hand....there's no "pouch" and I like the tight hugging feeling that makes me feel like I got something down there.

Hmm. I have to go ahead and say bras! Panties used to be something that made me uncomfortable, but now that I think about it, that's not the case anymore, comparing to bras. But good question! I've never really thought about it before.

I view bras as a harness for life because of these silly growths on my chest. I think maybe the absence of growth down there is less dysphoric because it's not literally sticking out and getting in the way, or being stared at, or referred to by other people nearly as much. I'm still dysphoric about my ghost wang - might as well refer to it that way 'cause it's there in spirit - but it's generally just less of a visible, jostling problem. 

Breasts are just all around "in the way" non-functional sandbags, I really do miss the days when I could run about without them there at all, without having to tie them down or bind them up or even see them or feel them there. Sigh. I like to do physical stuff and they've been hindering that for decades.

 

I hate bras with a passion. Even before I started transitioning I would often just not wear one and wear nipple tape. They just feel so awful and make me so uncomfortable in so many ways. The funny thing is that I love wearing form fitting clothing so the whole bra thing just makes it worse. Usually even when I bind I still just look meh


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definitely bras.  i switched to sports bras a long time ago; i don't want anything that would make my chest more visible or have obvious straps.  on top of giving a more feminine look and being a blatant symbol of womanhood, i also find bras just plain physically uncomfortable. 
panties are also pretty feminine and uncomfortable to me, but at least they're not visible to anyone else and don't affect the apparent shape of my body.  not that i wear them either, of course.

Probably bras, because they remind me more of the fact that I have breasts that need supported. Though I mostly wear pretty plain boxer-briefs, I actually don't mind the idea of more "feminine" guys' underwear. But bras are made specifically for breasts, which do not belong on my chest :P

Quote from: T.K.G.W. on December 15, 2015, 08:07:59 AM
I view bras as a harness for life because of these silly growths on my chest. I think maybe the absence of growth down there is less dysphoric because it's not literally sticking out and getting in the way, or being stared at, or referred to by other people nearly as much. I'm still dysphoric about my ghost wang - might as well refer to it that way 'cause it's there in spirit - but it's generally just less of a visible, jostling problem. 

Just had to quote you because of how similar I feel about this.