So today I was at work, and I saw that my coworker/boss was pregnant. I don't know how to categorize this.. maybe dysphoria, whatever it is, it's the feeling that I'll never be able to naturally get a girl pregnant, and it sucks. It's not like I have complete bottom dysphoria, it's just hella disheartening.
Lets have some hope for the future... who knows what the next 10 years may bring...
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Nope. I don't like kids. Never wanted to have one or raise one.
Like Laura says, wait and see. They're already working on uterus transplants for transwomen. I'd be surprised if someone isn't already fiddling with methods for transmen to impregnate someone.
YES.
I very much want children and am currently dating a wonderful cis woman. We've talked about artificial insemination and adopting and I'm sure we'll end up with amazing kids regardless, but there's still a part of me that just craves being able to impregnate her.
Lol I'm with Max, I hate kids. Actually it's a bit of relief that's there's no chance of ever having an "oops" :P
But sure, it would still be nice to have the choice.
Quote from: AeroZeppelin92 on December 06, 2015, 01:48:16 AM
Lol I'm with Max, I hate kids. Actually it's a bit of relief that's there's no chance of ever having an "oops" :P
This. >.>
But I can understand the opposite feeling, though. Fortunately science is a wonderful thing.
It's weird for me. I'm not able to get pregnant, and I've always been aware of that, and never regretted it. I never wanted to be a mother, and I don't really like kids. But now I'm starting to regret that I'll never be a biological father. But hey, there's always adoption. Lots of great kids out there looking for homes, so perhaps someday...
Quote from: WorkingOnThomas on December 06, 2015, 03:15:38 AM
It's weird for me. I'm not able to get pregnant, and I've always been aware of that, and never regretted it. I never wanted to be a mother, and I don't really like kids. But now I'm starting to regret that I'll never be a biological father. But hey, there's always adoption. Lots of great kids out there looking for homes, so perhaps someday...
That's what I'm saying. It's not that I NEED kids to live a fulfilled life, and the not being able to accidentally get a girl pregnant is definitely a plus. The chance to be a dad the way cis men can go about it is just a way different route. Working with kids makes it especially hard some moments ahah
Quote from: FTMax on December 05, 2015, 08:20:22 PM
Nope. I don't like kids. Never wanted to have one or raise one.
I used to feel that way a lot but I've come to terms with it now. I talked it over a lot with my girlfriend (since that's who I plan on having kids with in the future) and we talked about the different options we had to start a family one day, what we did and didn't like about them, and so on. Hopefully it gets better for you buddy.
I prefer men, so it's a little different for me, but I do regret not being able to have a child that is biologically mine and my partner's. However, there is always adoption, and since I wouldn't be able to impregante my male partner if I was a cis man, I don't think the regret could be described as dysphoria to me.
I'm more disappointed that my dysphoria is too intense to carry a kid, since I'd love to for me and my partner (who can't because he has too many medical problems and since he already had a hysto, it wouldn't work anyway).
Well, I am too old to have children now...but when I was younger and pre-T, the thought of being pregnant and raising a child repulsed me. Now that I am 5 years on T and living a much more comfortable life, I do have an occasional thought that I might be a good dad. Not being able to be a partner in conception would get me down a bit, but not because of the child issue...more because of the equipment issue.
I do. I really do. I would love to be a parent (although I doubt it's in the cards for me, as honestly, I love my career just a little bit more, haha. Plus, I'm crap with kids.), and sometimes the knowledge that I can never father children bums me out. Of course, I could always adopt -- and if I find my life heading in that direction, that's what I'll do, but. I dunno. It's the utter obliteration of the possibility that I find just a little sad. Would have loved the option of doing things "normally."
I'm still kind of young so raising children is still a bit farther in the future for me, but yes, I am disappointed in the fact I can't be a biological farther, at least not until a lot more medical advancements have been made (like converting certain cells into sperm cells, etc.) which won't be for a long, long time. But a lot of cis guys will have to deal with this to because they are in a same-sex relationship or their infertile or their partner is interfile for whatever reason. I know I can adopt in the future and all that stuff but just the thought of one day getting married to my girlfriend and having a kid that looks and acts like both of us... alas.
I understand people who want their own kids, but at the same time (in my opinion, I respect others opinions), I think biological ties are slightly overrated.
I had a very bad relationship with my biological parents and a much better relationship with others, who respected me more, and understood me more. The fact that you have a biological tie with your child does not guarantee anything immediately.
The relationship you can have with your adopted kid is probably equally strong and intense as biological bond, in the end it´s much more about good parenthood than it ever was about biological links.
Still, I might have a very different perspective, since parenthood isn´t a thing that I am interested in.
I don't know if it's helpful to note but there are lots and lots of fertility clinics around and many cis-people unable to conceive without technological assistance either. So you're not alone, and like everyone else said, who knows what the future may bring.
there actually is a way that's been developing for awhile!! they're looking at a way to develop sperm from skin cells.... still not the 'same' as a cis guy, but it's pretty cool imo.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/dec/24/science-skin-cells-create-artificial-sperm-eggs
as for transplants.... there have been successful transplants with donor penises, so i truly believe it's possible for us in the future. stay hopeful :)
Quote from: palexander on December 11, 2015, 02:06:17 PM
there actually is a way that's been developing for awhile!! they're looking at a way to develop sperm from skin cells.... still not the 'same' as a cis guy, but it's pretty cool imo.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/dec/24/science-skin-cells-create-artificial-sperm-eggs
as for transplants.... there have been successful transplants with donor penises, so i truly believe it's possible for us in the future. stay hopeful :)
this is really cool! made me feel really good. thank you !
I never want kids, so no ;D
Quote from: palexander on December 11, 2015, 02:06:17 PM
there actually is a way that's been developing for awhile!! they're looking at a way to develop sperm from skin cells.... still not the 'same' as a cis guy, but it's pretty cool imo.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/dec/24/science-skin-cells-create-artificial-sperm-eggs
as for transplants.... there have been successful transplants with donor penises, so i truly believe it's possible for us in the future. stay hopeful :)
Don't mean to be a bubble burster... But, perhaps you missed this paragraph in the article:
"Skin cells from a woman could only be used to make eggs because they lack the Y chromosome. Those from a male might theoretically be turned into eggs as well as sperm, but Azim Surani, who led the work at the Gurdon Institute in Cambridge, said that on the basis of current knowledge, that was unlikely." Basically, for those of us born with two X chromosomes, they wouldn't be able to make artificial sperm using our cells anyways. Although I would think it would be the other way around, seeing as sperm can be either X or Y and eggs are X. It would leave us with only the option of having girls if it was possible haha.
I don't think I'd love any kids I potentially might have less if they weren't biologically mine so it doesn't really upset me. I know what you mean though, it's the fact that I can't that makes me a little dysphoric
Not to mention it stung a little when my girlfriend used it as a reason for breaking up with me
@aerozeppelin92
Glad you caught that I was about to say something as well. Have you heard of Kaguya the mouse though? Some slightly hopeful stuff there.
"The new research resulted in the birth of two female mice, produced by mixing two sets of female chromosomes. One of the mice lived to adulthood and mated with a male, producing offspring."
Alas... "Although the research is unlikely to lead to new ways to make human babies in the near future, if ever, it does show how important imprinting is to the development of an embryo. " I'm not sure why they say this. It's probably just un-godly expensive to do just once and involves a lot of genetic manipulation. Sounds dangerous. I think the other mouse died x_x
Quote from: jlaframboise on December 05, 2015, 03:11:53 PM
So today I was at work, and I saw that my coworker/boss was pregnant. I don't know how to categorize this.. maybe dysphoria, whatever it is, it's the feeling that I'll never be able to naturally get a girl pregnant, and it sucks. It's not like I have complete bottom dysphoria, it's just hella disheartening.
I am with you dude, though from the other side. Yes, it is part of gender dysphoria.
While contemporary medicine may not be able to do anything for you and me, I do find some trail of happiness thinking SRS in future will allow impregnation and giving birth to other people.
Yes!! From since I was a kid. I want to be a father, but it's not going to happen the way I would want it to happen. It sucks that all the love you have to give your wife cant be used to make a child. I felt invalid for a long time. If I have my kids I know I will be a good parent regardless of the label father/ dad. But I am excited for the moment where I can rub lotion on a big preggo belly and do all the cool things! I felt a bit sad when I thought about if I had a son, who will teach him to shave etc. Im pre T and that really hurt. If I cant get on hormones by then well I guess I'm shaving my smooth baby face with my soon.
Keep you chin up!
I have terrible bottom dysphoria, and there are times where I wish I could naturally impregnate a female out of a biological urge, but, for the most part, I am content. I really don't want any kids. I'd rather just spend the extra money on my wife instead of kids, but it would be nice to have that option though. If we really wanted kids, then we could adopt. There are tons of children that need a loving home already. Besides, with my crappy genetics, it's probably best that I''m unable to impregnate a woman. Overall, there are a thousand things I can be depressed about when it comes to myself being transgender. I try to keep "lack of biological children" at the bottom of that list.
Yeah. I've felt like that before like you said disheartening