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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Sebby Michelango on December 16, 2015, 01:17:33 PM

Poll
Question: Do you think you pass and is passing important for you?
Option 1: I think I pass and passing is important for me
Option 2: I think I don't pass and passing is important for me
Option 3: It's not so important for me, but I think I pass
Option 4: For me it's not so important and I don't think I pass
Option 5: I don't really care
Title: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: Sebby Michelango on December 16, 2015, 01:17:33 PM
I want to hear your options, people.
1. Do you think you pass?
2. Is passing important to you?
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: Devlyn on December 16, 2015, 01:39:30 PM
1. I'm a non-binary, part man and part woman. I am seen that way, some people see the woman and some people see the man. This IS passing to a non-binary person. It's a very hard concept for people to understand. The usual notion of passing is that you are seen as a male or a female with no middle ground. I'd like to spread that knowledge here first in the hopes that the rest of the world will eventually learn more about all the nuances of being transgender.

2. It doesn't matter to me other than wanting everyone to be treated as equals.

Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: Greeneyes on December 16, 2015, 01:43:28 PM
1. I hope so.

2. Yes, but really I just want people to treat me the same as any other person they meet.


~Evelyn
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: cheryl reeves on December 16, 2015, 01:46:30 PM
i can pass for female but have trouble passing as a male,to pass as a male i am resigned to a mustache,without mustache im all woman,and whats weird is my gender is male..figure that one out..i posted a new updated avatar pic of what i look like since the other pic was 15 yrs old..i think i don;t look to bad for a 50 yr old
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: TG CLare on December 16, 2015, 01:49:35 PM
Some days you're the hammer, some days the nail. I don't always manage to pass but I can't really do much about that. Some people are just that much more perceptive than others.

Love,
Clare
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: Amoré on December 16, 2015, 01:51:09 PM
1.Well I think I pass people don't really bat an eyelid when I walk into a shop or a place that no one knows me. I tried online dating today and from my picture I definitely pass because the people are in shock when I tell them I am transgender  :o


2.I feel like passing to me is very important I am still young and this means if I decide to complete my transition I would like to have a partner and look like a normal couple so that he does not feel uncomfortable being seen with me.

Also I have a child and I want to have more children so for them also passing is important so that people don't raise questions when we are walking somewhere and they think I am the mother.

It is sort of crap passing and having to tell a potential partner you are transgender that really sucks
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: Oliviah on December 16, 2015, 01:52:47 PM
Passing is very important to me.

I think I am cute at times, but I don't honestly think I pass.
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: Jill F on December 16, 2015, 02:02:13 PM
I pass as myself to myself now, and that is the most important thing to me.   

These days I get fewer and fewer funny looks from random strangers, but I am still more than happy to let people make themselves feel uncomfortable around me as a result of their own bigotry.
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: Jacqueline on December 16, 2015, 03:32:10 PM
Kind of a standard response I guess.

I am very early on in my journey. I can't begin to physically pass. I think I mentally and emotionally pass.

I would love to, out of fear. I want to just get to a norm where I feel comfortable. For me right now, that would be my inner gender.

Joanna
Title: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: iKate on December 16, 2015, 04:32:43 PM
1. Yes
2. Yes

I'm sure I pass because people I know have mistaken me for my wife before. That's after sitting down and talking to them so it's not just from a distance.

It is important to me because I want people to see the authentic me rather than them putting up an act to pretend to validate me.

Am I done? Of course not. I get FFS next year and maybe then I will be done (apart from SRS). Then I will have absolutely zero doubt in how I pass.
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: iKate on December 16, 2015, 04:34:59 PM

Quote from: Oliviah on December 16, 2015, 01:52:47 PM
Passing is very important to me.

I think I am cute at times, but I don't honestly think I pass.
From the pics I've seen you pass. Don't underestimate yourself.
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: Candi.Krol on December 16, 2015, 05:27:45 PM
I'm proud of being trans, and I love that!!!
BUT! I do like to pass when on the street late at night, or to just not get the wrong attention... other then that, I'm a very happy trans person! :D


xxooxx, Candi!
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: Mitternacht on December 16, 2015, 06:04:42 PM
1. I pass, but I look way younger than my age, I look like a young boy so that is weird sometimes.
2. Often times I like to pass more as a man than as a woman even though at the moment I see myself to be quite androgynous. I still put the emphasis on my masculine side.


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Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: paula lesley on December 16, 2015, 06:30:25 PM
I seem to  :-\ Maybe people do still wonder if I am all women, but I have stopped worrying about it. Mostly  ;)

It is a joy to just be  ;D


Paula, X.
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: Kylo on December 16, 2015, 06:52:50 PM
I pass as a teen-looking boy... although I am quite a bit older than that. Vampire, eternal youth, etc.

It it not that important to me, excepting circumstances where I'd be in danger if I didn't pass, ofc. Otherwise, I've spent a lifetime being considered "weird" and "unique". I'm not worried if that continues.
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: Oliviah on December 16, 2015, 07:31:41 PM
Quote from: iKate on December 16, 2015, 04:34:59 PM
From the pics I've seen you pass. Don't underestimate yourself.

aww thank you so much.  You are beautiful. 
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: stephaniec on December 16, 2015, 10:14:59 PM
I do my best. I just love wearing dresses so much I want to glide through streams of people without harassment. I also love my growing breasts and how I'm finally after so many years  able to look good in a dress.
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: meatwagon on December 17, 2015, 02:15:06 AM
passing is extremely important to me, but i don't pass.  so i just stay indoors and don't talk to anyone, pretty much.
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: ToniB on December 17, 2015, 03:41:20 AM
I think I pass quite well the best affirmation of that is when out with my Wife we get hello Ladies and My Wife cringes LOL. But I can go about My usual business with no sign of being clocked that I notice . As to it being Important I would not say important but does definitely make life easier and more comfortable for Me to be seen as the gender I really am inside
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: Nancy on December 17, 2015, 03:47:40 AM
I really don't like the idea of passing at all. I really believe it's a harmful concept. Don't 'pass' as something, just BE, be you. Don't live to conform to the perceptions of bigots.
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: WorkingOnThomas on December 17, 2015, 04:38:10 AM
1. Yes, sometimes. Until I open my mouth, then the game is up.
2. Yes, and no. I wish that I lived in a world where 'passing' isn't necessary, and I could just be me, no pressure to conform to anyone's expectations, narrow as they seem to be. At the same time, I'm a man. I want other people to see me as a man. Feminine, perhaps, but still, a man.
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: Maybebaby56 on December 17, 2015, 05:37:03 AM
1. Some of my pictures are passable. Case in point, my 9-year old son saw my Susan's avatar on my computer desktop, and opened it up in all it's 8x10" glory.  He asked me who the lady was, and if it was my mom! I guess he saw the resemblance, but didn't quite put it together, thank goodness!

Another time he used my gmail account, one that has another picture of me, for his minecraft business.  One of the players messaged me, "Are you really a 40+ woman playing minecraft?"  That tickled me.  For one thing, I'm 58!  I am also proud of the fact I wear much less makeup than I used to. My skin looks better from electrolysis and hormones.  In the avatar you see of me, I am wearing just some mascara, some light foundation and a bit of bronzer on the cheeks, and some lipstick.

I'm not sure I pass in person yet, although the one time I did go out, my friend's female roommate thought I was just another woman.  So there is hope!

2.  Yes, it matters to me very much.  This whole RLE thing terrifies me.  I am hoping by the time that comes around I will be passable.
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: invisiblemonsters on December 17, 2015, 10:21:37 AM
yes i pass (i've been on t for over a year and have had surgery), and yes it's important to me. no one i know in my life (besides friends who knew me before transitioning and my family) know that i'm trans. at work and school i'm both stealth. i like living that way. i don't want "special treatment" for who i am and i don't want unwanted attention and inappropriate questions brought my way. i'm happy living stealth and passing. i don't have issues telling potential partners i'm trans, or doctors. those are the only people i believe need to know. it took me a long time to get to where i am and i wouldn't want anyone seeing me as anything different then a typical man because that's all i ever wanted was just to be - a man.
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: lostcharlie on December 17, 2015, 10:46:44 AM
For me I'm finding the whole passing thing quite perplexing right now. I'm pre HRT but have been going out in the world as the real me for some months now. Started presenting as me for my therapy appointments and that has grown to treating my therapy days as an opportunity for going out and about in the world as me. I am willing to say I can't pass on a bet but I must be doing something right. Have had several occasions when my therapist has been running a little late. I've had to wait in the hall for her. Have had numerous people walk by within feet of me and barely give me a glance. Several times men have walked by and looked at me ,smiled and said hello the way some men do with women.Have been doing quite a bit of shopping before or after my therapy appointment and have been getting the same kind of responses. Have had women standing on the opposite side of clothing racks and no weird looks or comments that I've noticed. Funniest thing has been having to speak to salesgirls. Would say my voice is horrible but again no overt negative reactions. Go figure. I have no clue what is going on, but I'm really enjoying going out in the world as the real me and the heck with what anybody else might think.
Title: Re: Do you think you do pass and is passing important for you?
Post by: Sebby Michelango on December 17, 2015, 10:58:34 AM
I pass sometimes, but often my family etc. ruin it because they uses my birth name and wrong pronouns.
For me passing is very important. I'm pre-everything.