Hi everyone,
As I have become older the fat in my butt has reduced quite a bit and the fat in tummy has increased ... :o
5 to 10 years ago this was not a problem as the butt was fuller and my tummy less so ..... :)
I will never travel to the States for cosmetic or facial surgery ever again as it's too darn expensive to travel there and the surgeon's prices are now way too dear.
So my question is, does anyone know or better still has had this procedure done in Europe but not the UK? I will also call Facial Team and see if they do it or can suggest someone.
Again I will never have cosmetic or facial surgery done in the UK again because of the poor or simply bad work performed on me down the years.
Hope someone can help ... :)
Thanks
Paula
Cirumed clinic... and they are in Marbella :) Their prices are comparable with prices in US.
I've heard people recommending Dr Alexander Aslani in Marbella, Spain who does the Brazilian Butt Lift / Body Contouring. There's also Dr. Doornaert in Ghent, Belgium.
Thanks girls ... :)
http://alexanderaslani.com/
http://www.drdoornaert.be/contact-english/
My heavens, Spain is so efficient.
Never expected them to be open during Christmas, but called and was answered by an English woman who also speaks Spanish fluently.
She was really efficient and lovely to talk to.
Told her I was in Marbella having surgery at the beginning of April, so made an appointment to see the good doctor while I was there.
When I asked about the average price, she said 5490 Euros = £4052.89 !!!! :o :o :o
I told her that I was amazed and she said " We have a lot of UK patients who think the same ".
I told her that the surgery that I was having with Facial Team was half that it would have been, if done in 'Rip Off UK' !!!
Another appointment ( cost only 85 Euros = £62 - in London surgeon appointments cost on average between £100 to £250 ) that I am looking forward to in relation to my rejuvenation process ... :)
Roll on 2016
See Dr Aslani's 15 minute presentation in Paris:
http://alexanderaslani.com/portfolio/brazilian-butt-lift-dr-aslanis-lecture-imcas-paris/
Very informative
That was an interesting video. It's something that's been on my radar for a while, but at the moment I've ruled it out because my BMI is only 20.5, and I've always had a hard time putting on weight and I'd need to add another stone or more to get decent results. If I eventually think I can do that then I will go for it.
The obvious difficulty is not sitting for four weeks. I note in the video he says two weeks of not sitting and then two weeks of sitting as little as possible. So in terms of flights back from Spain you'd probably have to be there into a third week ideally. Though I have heard of people arranging with the flight crew to sit down for take off and landing and then being able to stand at the back of the plane for the rest of the flight.
Hi Charlotte,
Yes that's my concern the sitting bit, especially at my age .. LOL ;D
When I have travelled to the USA from here in the UK, I always walk up and down the aisles every 30 minutes or so and do leg exercises but can you imagine standing for 8 hours or even longer depending on where you live !!! :o :o
BUT I will be getting it done despite all this.
Hey no pain - no gain ;) ;) and I am looking forward to sitting on a butt that's not sore to sit on which it is now - ouch, ouch !!!
Quote from: Charlotte_W on December 29, 2015, 05:23:17 AM
That was an interesting video. It's something that's been on my radar for a while, but at the moment I've ruled it out because my BMI is only 20.5, and I've always had a hard time putting on weight and I'd need to add another stone or more to get decent results. If I eventually think I can do that then I will go for it.
The obvious difficulty is not sitting for four weeks. I note in the video he says two weeks of not sitting and then two weeks of sitting as little as possible. So in terms of flights back from Spain you'd probably have to be there into a third week ideally. Though I have heard of people arranging with the flight crew to sit down for take off and landing and then being able to stand at the back of the plane for the rest of the flight.
That's quite awesome price! I've found few prices from their patients and it was around 8000-9000 EUR. It was probably price for combination of fat transfer and implants...
Be shure we will be happy to hear more details after you consult with dr. Aslani !
@Charlotte ... it's usually advised to do this surgery close to your target weight, and not intentionally gain weight for surgery alone. If you would lose that extra weight after surgery, its likely you would also lose some of transfered fat, which would be a shame. Its recommended to not lose any weight for quite a while. For those who dont have ideal 23+BMI, and still want more bigger change, there are two solutions.. combination of implants and fat transfer, or fat transfer done twice with second surgery being done 6-12 months after the first one. And there is always an option to move target weight little higher permanently...
Quote from: Lagertha on December 29, 2015, 07:45:35 AM@Charlotte ... it's usually advised to do this surgery close to your target weight, and not intentionally gain weight for surgery alone. If you would lose that extra weight after surgery, its likely you would also lose some of transfered fat, which would be a shame. Its recommended to not lose any weight for quite a while. For those who dont have ideal 23+BMI, and still want more bigger change, there are two solutions.. combination of implants and fat transfer, or fat transfer done twice with second surgery being done 6-12 months after the first one. And there is always an option to move target weight little higher permanently...
Well I don't mind having a higher weight/BMI permanently if it means that I have fat in the right areas and the rest of me is still slim(ish) in comparison. My issue will be trying to keep the weight on I think, though I am getting older so perhaps that'll be easier.
I can't say I'm keen on the idea of implants around that area though.
Hey girls,
I was just outside getting my car ready for a "New Years Day" gathering locally when I had a brainwave !!! :)
Now why didn't I think of this before?
I am going to ask Dr Aslani if he can also take out most of the fat in my top lip and put it in my butt ... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
See https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,200643.0.html
Yes their price is exceptional and I would not like implants either.
Having had one leaking breast implant removed in 2012 and the other one too, I don't want any more implants in my body.
BUT 6 months ago when I was talking to someone about my breast implants removal, this person said " A surgeon went to all the trouble of removing your implants and then Simon Eccles puts implants back in again ".
I fell about laughing as the person was probably only joking but maybe not.
Quote from: Paula1 on December 29, 2015, 03:50:45 AM
See Dr Aslani's 15 minute presentation in Paris:
http://alexanderaslani.com/portfolio/brazilian-butt-lift-dr-aslanis-lecture-imcas-paris/
Very informative
Thank you!
Hello! :) I just posted Aloooooot of info regarding BBL, Fat Transfer, Hip and Butt implants for those curious to something like this. So ill post the link to the thread I posted it all in and yall can check it out if you want some list of surgeons and links to how they do things like that. Theres quite a handfull of info but maybe it'll help! Instead of reposting it here ill just drop the link to the thread and you can have a look for yourself of what I posted therein case it may help, goodluck :angel:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,202835.msg1807426.html#msg1807426
Reminder to self.
Must call Dr Aslani's clinic in Marbella to go and see him when I am in Spain in three weeks time.
Coincidence but last Friday just as I was about to call Dr Aslani's private clinic in Marbella, his colleague called me and I have made an appointment to see them when I am down there ... :)
I will let you all know how I got on but might not be until after I arrive back in the UK on April 15th.
He operates in two sections of the same hospital.
Consulta privada:
Cirumed Clinic Marbella
Edif. Panorama, Planta baja, Local 2B y 2C
Ctra. de Cádiz, km 184
E - 29603 Marbella
Tel.: 952 77 53 46
Web: www.cirumed.es
Email: reception@cirumed.es
Hospital 1:
Jefe de servicio
Departamento de Cirugía Plástica, Estética y Reconstructiva
Hospital Quirón Málaga
Avda. Imperio Argentina, 1
E - 29004 Málaga
Tel: (+34) 951 30 43 08
Web: www.quiron.es
Email: quiron@cirumed.es
Hospital 2:
Jefe de servicio
Departamento de Cirugía Plástica, Estética y Reconstructiva
Hospital Quirón Marbella
Avda. Severo Ochoa, 22
29603 Marbella
Web: www.quiron.es
Email: contact@cirumed.es
Quick question for you Paula. In the time you noticed less fat in butt and more in abdominal area, did you remain on the same HRT regimen?
Good Morning KayXo,
Yes I have been on the same dose of HRT since transition in 1988 but four years ago my endo put me on Sandrena Gel which I rub into my skin every day. Result is my hormone levels are higher and I now feel much better. Also it saves stress on the liver applying the hormone topically.
Regards my butt, it has not changed significantly down the years, in fact it's a little thinner and my tummy fat has not changed a lot either as I have only a little surplus in the tummy which goes up and down depending on how much I eat.
During my few trips to the USA over the last 12 years, I always put on a lot of weight due to the rather excessive portions out there and eating Culvers burgers, milk shakes etc but lose it all when I get back to the UK.
It could be that they might not be able to do much for me.
But we shalll see because just a little fat transferred to the posterior would be nice.
Quote from: KayXo on March 21, 2016, 04:18:42 PM
Quick question for you Paula. In the time you noticed less fat in butt and more in abdominal area, did you remain on the same HRT regimen?
Quote from: Paula1 on March 23, 2016, 03:02:45 AM
Yes I have been on the same dose of HRT since transition in 1988 but four years ago my endo put me on Sandrena Gel which I rub into my skin every day. Result is my hormone levels are higher and I now feel much better. Also it saves stress on the liver applying the hormone topically.
Hi Paula,
The issue with taking estradiol orally is not so much the stress on the liver as it is clotting because alcohol is far more harmful. Studies have even shown that unlike previously used forms of estrogen which were not bio-identical, bio E had far less of an impact on clotting.
I'm glad you feel better. :) What are your hormone levels by the way?
QuoteRegards my butt, it has not changed significantly down the years, in fact it's a little thinner and my tummy fat has not changed a lot either as I have only a little surplus in the tummy which goes up and down depending on how much I eat.
Two things:
1) bio-identical progesterone (Cyclogest, Utrogestan) often helps with giving one a more rounded, fuller butt.
2) you could check out Zoe Harcombe on healthy eating. I also read her book, might interest you and will dispel some of the myths we have been exposed to, especially regarding the calories in, calories out paradigm. Gary Taubes is also interesting.
Hi KayXo,
May I come back to you tomorrow?
I am chilling as much as possible before I fly out to Malaga a week today.
Hugs
Paula
Quote from: KayXo on March 23, 2016, 09:33:33 AM
Hi Paula,
The issue with taking estradiol orally is not so much the stress on the liver as it is clotting because alcohol is far more harmful. Studies have even shown that unlike previously used forms of estrogen which were not bio-identical, bio E had far less of an impact on clotting.
I'm glad you feel better. :) What are your hormone levels by the way?
Two things:
1) bio-identical progesterone (Cyclogest, Utrogestan) often helps with giving one a more rounded, fuller butt.
2) you could check out Zoe Harcombe on healthy eating. I also read her book, might interest you and will dispel some of the myths we have been exposed to, especially regarding the calories in, calories out paradigm. Gary Taubes is also interesting.
Take your time...no rush! :)
Hiya,
Thank you for allowing me some time to dig out my endo notes .... 8)
My serum oestradiol level (GW4656) varies a bit each quarter that I have bloods drawn but the average reading is around 600 pmol/L, and I feel great.
The reports always say "Normal - No action"
Last night I had some new neighbours around for drinks and when I told one guy my age, he said " No way".
In fact I am old enough to be his grandmother !!! :o :o :o
He is very dishy and we got on like houses on fire ... :)
Down girl ... down ;) ;)
Quote from: KayXo on March 25, 2016, 11:16:28 AM
Take your time...no rush! :)
Hi everyone,
With all that's been going on in my life recently, I forgot to tell you all about my consultation in Spain last month after I had my surgery with Facial Team.
See Dr Aslani's website: http://alexanderaslani.com/
I went with another girl who was staying at Jenny's Nest.
Dr Aslani is really a lovely man and we connected very well.
He is obviously very experienced and said that TG girls are his most particular patients when it comes to looking good ... 8)
He said that I will need to put on about 14 lbs in weight before surgery ( 1 stone in UK money or 6.35 kilos Metric ) as I am fairly slim and he will need all the fat he can to place in my derriere ... :o
So bang will go my diet with lots of chocolate bars !! A trip to the USA will guarantee that kind of weight gain ... LOL ... ;D as the food there is so yummee with their big portions.
I said that I will have to look like "The Michelin Tyre woman ", so he said 'Yes' and laughed.
So all in all it was a great meeting and both of us left very happy and well informed.
Oh yes, here is the quotation.
I said to them that if I get my GP ( local doctor ) to write a letter stating that the procedure is relevant to the transition process rather than cosmetic, so then under current Spanish tax law, the procedure should be IVA tax free as FFS is in Spain.
Dear Paula,
Thank you for attending your consultation with Dr. Aslani on Tuesday 12th of April.
I hope you feel well informed after your chat with the surgeon, and we are always here to help if you have any further questions.
The doctors assessment is always based on your expectations into this being reasonable.
Based on your personal preconditions we have prepared you the following quotation (prices in €):
The total quote includes the following procedures:
1. Water Jetstream liposculpture of the abdomen, back, inner thighs, flanks and waist
2. Fat grafting to buttocks. This entails workup with the extracted fat with the Humanmed lipocollector technique and multiplane microinjection technique.
3. Laser liposuction for skin retraction on the donor sites to tighten the skin and accentuate your waistline
Also included in the quote total are the following:
1. One compression garment
2. Anesthesia fee (twilight sedation)
3. Hospital fees (your suite for one night, theatre, nursing, IV lines, meals, on premise medication etc).
4. Surgery Fees
5. Materials: Body Jet single use fat harvest cannula, lipocollector, laser fibers, plasma enrichment, Serofil microcannulas etc.
6. Your postoperative medication, which is handed out to you on discharge
7. Your postoperative reviews
8. Two sessions of lymphatic drainage massages
Total quote: 5.990,- €
(+21% IVA = total 7.247,90,-€)
We hope this quote is to your convenience.
The latest Spanish law obliges us to add 21% VAT to all procedures that are classified as aesthetic surgery. Exempt from this are patients where a medial indication is certified by a third, medically qualified party which recommends the operation for your wellbeing for medical reasons. This can be for example your GP. We are very happy to advise about the details of obtaining a medical indication.
To ensure reliable planning, we request a deposit of 500,-€ to ensure any booking.
Popular additions requested by our patients are:
Additional zone of liposuction 600€
Celulaze (CeluTite) 600€
Necktite for double chin treatment 600€
An extra nights' stay in the suite is 253€
I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Kind regards,
xxxxxx
Administrativa
When will I be going for it, hopefully next year sometime .... :)