Okay, so I just recently got myself a relatively cheap epilator to more easily get rid of all the body hair I frankly really don't want on myself at all. Now, of course, it did also occur me that using it to get rid of my beard and 'stache is something to be considered, since I don't want to grow either anytime soon. I've heard, however, that this is really a bad idea for various reasons - on the other hand, I've also heard of people who have reported overall success doing this, and searching for earlier threads reveals a similarly mixed response.
So, could I get some opinions (preferably from people who have actually tried it) on how much success I can expect from epilating my face? I'd like to note that the immediate pain of the process is not a concern. What matters to me is whether I can succeed with it, and whether there are any additional risks that don't show up (or not as much) when epilating other parts of the body. (For example, I've sometimes heard that the high density of male facial hair is a problem for the epilator. On the other hand, couldn't that be circumvented just by going slowly and more carefully?) I'd also like to note that currently, there are no other permanent or semi-permanent options available, such as electrolysis or laser treatment - it's either epilating or the regular chore of taking a razor to my face for less than a day of smooth-face.
Thank you for your responses.
I tried it and its incredibly painful. I also managed to get an infection and had to take antibiotics.
I didn't manage to do it long enough to tell what it would be like longer term.
You could try looking in to Vaniqua (Eflornithine) instead. Its not permanent, works slowly, and is expensive. No pain though, unless you count your wallet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eflornithine
Haha, no, expensive solutions won't work unfortunately. That's about 80% of the reason why I can't do laser at the moment - I am a university student with no steady income yet. Thank you anyways. Yeech, your experience sounds painful. I'm wondering how typical it is among those who try it.
I think everyone says its every painful. Try google.
To put the pain in perspective, I've been in hospital on morphine, and it was for a lot less pain than the epilator.
I've tried plucking my face with a tweezer and that brought tears. I cannot imagine the pain of pulling a whole bunch of them at the same time. I think I might pass out screaming.
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I have been tweezing my face and neck for a long time. I just bought a Braun Silk-Epil 9, it was $124 on Amazon. The first thing I did was run it across my face and neck. I was surprised that all I felt was tugging and bumping. I thought it was missing the hairs, but it left me smooth as a babies butt. It clears my face and neck in just a couple of minutes.
My suggestions are:
1. Epilate often so only some of the hairs are long enough for the rotating tweezers to grab, this should keep the pain down to a dull roar.
2. Keep your skin tight while you're doing an area.
3. Go slow, especially when approaching a tender area. I haven't been able to epilate my armpits or nether regions yet, but I intend to work my way into it eventually.
I hope this helps!
Hugs, Devlyn
PS: Y'all are a bunch of babies!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Hugs, Devlyn
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 02, 2016, 07:59:56 AM
3. Go slow, especially when approaching a tender area. I haven't been able to epilate my armpits or nether regions yet, but I intend to work my way into it eventually.
You wuss! I epilate my armpits every two weeks. Gential electrolysis - now THAT hurts. Oh yeah...
Here is a useful tip - rub talc into the armpits before epilating. It greatly reduces friction.
Quote from: pyhxbp on January 02, 2016, 08:07:18 AM
You wuss! I epilate my armpits every two weeks. Gential electrolysis - now THAT hurts. Oh yeah...
Here is a useful tip - rub talc into the armpits before epilating. It greatly reduces friction.
+1! :laugh:
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 02, 2016, 08:10:41 AM
+1! :laugh:
Actually, I am fed up epilating my armpits so I am having them lasered later this month. The test patch was an enormous success and since I now have a large, empty stripe in one armpit I
need to get them both done.
Epilating body hair was worked very well for me and I have very, very little left, but I suspect HRT was a big help too.
Thank you for the responses so far!
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 02, 2016, 07:59:56 AM1. Epilate often so only some of the hairs are long enough for the rotating tweezers to grab, this should keep the pain down to a dull roar.
Does this mean that it'd be a good idea to do my best clean shave possible before the first time? I understand that the hair needs to grow a little before it can be properly epilated, and that your solution exchanges efficiency for less pain - right?
Well, so far there have been opinions for and against. :) Some of the 'against' opinions did make me a bit cautious though. Would it be sensible to perhaps try it out on a small patch and see if it works for me? I'm thinking that around the ear, where my skin isn't as visible (I have shoulder-long hair) I could try epilating a little and see if I can remove the hairs there before possibly moving on to the rest of my face.
Keep it away from your long hair! I recommend an area with good visibility for you. Start on a smooth spot and slowly move into a few hairs to get a feel for it. Maybe skip a tiny patch shaving and epilate it?
Hugs, Devlyn
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 02, 2016, 08:01:29 AM
PS: Y'all are a bunch of babies!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Hugs, Devlyn
You know, you've been tweezing long before you used the epilator. That had to have helped with the pain when you started using the epilator.
Just got my Braun Silk Epil 9 and did my whole chest. OUCH!!!
Should have waxed a few times first. Oh well, done now :-)
I rub shower gel all over the area before epilating (it's a wet and dry and I always epilate in the shower, I find warm water helps a bit). The most painful area to start with had to be my chest and armpits. Everywhere else was easily bearable (though I started with brief, shorter strokes on more sensitive areas). I much prefer it to shaving, it's the way to go.
I will never take an epilator to my face, but if I ever did, I'd use plenty of soap. I'd probably use numbing cream too.
SO did you try epilator on your face yet? :D How did it go?
Please tell us right before you epilate your face so we can all put our earplugs in to drown out your screams. >:-)
Quote from: Kimberley Beauregard on January 08, 2016, 07:32:42 AM
I rub shower gel all over the area before epilating (it's a wet and dry and I always epilate in the shower, I find warm water helps a bit). The most painful area to start with had to be my chest and armpits. Everywhere else was easily bearable (though I started with brief, shorter strokes on more sensitive areas). I much prefer it to shaving, it's the way to go.
I will never take an epilator to my face, but if I ever did, I'd use plenty of soap. I'd probably use numbing cream too.
I of course approached it like I do everything. I dove in and did the whole chest in one day dry. Worst spot was center of chest. I have a red bumpy chest of courage now to prove how courageous I was through the pain.
Doh!
Oh I look forward to the day in the distant future when I will finally be able to go on hrt and get my brain what it needs to think clearly :-)
Quote from: TechGirl on January 08, 2016, 02:51:23 PM
I of course approached it like I do everything. I dove in and did the whole chest in one day dry. Worst spot was center of chest. I have a red bumpy chest of courage now to prove how courageous I was through the pain.
Doh!
Oh I look forward to the day in the distant future when I will finally be able to go on hrt and get my brain what it needs to think clearly :-)
OMG! I just did this yesterday.... :o
Ive had my epilator (silk epil 9) for a few months and the first couple days I did my whole body... what a nightmare.
but I resorted back to shaving my chest from the sheer pain. However, my growth seems to have slowed so I thought, lets clear it again and see what comes back.... it was just as painful, but Im smooth today and love it
face, I cant seem to get it to work on my face, but I rarely have any stubble because I like to keep smooth shaved (but I have shadow)
I have noticed recently that I have small clear patches starting on my face which gives me hope
Ihave successfully cleared my feet, lower legs, hands, forearms and most of upper arms, those areas rarely get stubbly
backs of my thighs hurt like hell
Quote from: Lagertha on January 08, 2016, 07:33:08 AM
SO did you try epilator on your face yet? :D How did it go?
Haha, well, since you've asked, might as well tell you about my adventures... I actually hadn't even started epilating when I posted this thread, so obviously I began with something easier than my face first. So, let's recount my experiences (potential TMI warning?)!
Mission 1: get rid of all the hair on the legs!
Well, that began kinda well. Assistants in the shops I was looking in all told me that it tends to be pretty painful for the first time, and that's consistent with the advice I received on the Internet. Compared to that, what I really felt when I began doing my lower leg was more of a mild inconvenience - it was surprising how the pain failed to live up to expectations. It only started getting painful near my thigh, especially at the areas where they join my torso. Still, it wasn't too bad - I could survive it. It was just really long.
Second time around, half a week later or so, and now, for the third time, the process was increasingly shorter and there isn't a lot of hair anymore. Only a few patches/streaks really got hairy (and not too long, either), and my legs feel nice and smooth now when stroked (especially if I go downwards, along the grain). Experimentally, I took the epilator to that patch of skin below my gut where all the pubes used to grow into a real jungle before I took a razor to them for a first time (long ago - seriously, why do I even need hair there?!). It was a bit more painful than anything before, but not too terrible - just not too efficient either, probably because I had shaved it quite short before just to be safe, and the hairs are not too long yet. (I didn't go down to the testicles or the penis, stopping at the area where the skin was still solid and stiff. Not ready for that yet! Not sure I'll ever be... I'll probably leave that to the permanent kind of treatment when I am in the financial situation to do so.)
As another experiment, I also decided to try epilating a few patches of my face - namely, parts of the neck and two symmetrical patches on my cheeks with a few streaks of facial hair on them. Well, what can I say - it really wasn't any more painful than what I had experienced so far. It was comparable to epilating away those pubes in both pain and efficiency, though - it really wasn't that good, though once again, I did do a clean shave a day and a half ago, so conditions perhaps aren't optimal. The skin is a little rough with red spots on the cheek areas, but I hope that will go away.
Ultimately, perhaps I just have a high pain tolerance to this machine, but the discomfort really wasn't all that cracked up to be. Nothing really hurts after epilating, either - it's more of an immediate pain that I have to handle in the sensitive areas. Not sure I'll actually epilate my face, though - I'll experiment with it later, in stages, and make a decision. It seems to be quite an inefficient process, although whether it's worth switching over from shaving depends on whether the end results are significantly better than the results of shaving.
Some of you are quite brave... I was saying "ouch!" quite a bit while reading this thread. :D
I would never ever epilate my face. Never! I had thought about it so much, I had so badly wanted a clear face, and I even had a Silk and other models. It was Ouch! on my legs, ouch! on my arms... arms were red the next couple of days.
I had one period where I achieved one good legs/arms/chest clearing, but the maintenance was too much... if I didn't touch up every day or two, it was really "Ouch!" time again. That says nothing, and I mean nothing of the ingrown hairs. That was a deal-breaker. Overall, I was not impressed with the epilating route.
On hindsight, I'd have rather saved my money (used for depilatories, epilators, groomers and the like) for laser and/or electrolysis. It's easy to say that on hindsight though. I obviously needed experience and time to arrive at that understanding.
An aside, once I got to facial electrolysis, I appreciated good skin care and removal steps (i.e., having a great laser tech and electrologist). I was SOOO HAPPY I had kept that epilator away from my face. That's an idle opinion though, so I'm not claiming to know what is okay or not with epilators. That said, I believe the epilator manuals often tell one to keep it away from thick facial hair, if not facial hair altogether (depending on model) for a good reason. If they're not supporting it, I think it means something. My understanding is facial epilation was described in manuals as being meant for fine one off removal, not thick bunches of hair. Apparently some are proving otherwise but...
I'm just saying!... :D Please be careful.
The Braun I bought has a cap for facial epilation. It is absolutely designed for use on the face. Always follow the manufacturer's advice for your particular epilator, of course.
Hugs, Devlyn
I find the pain from epilation and doing the maintenance to keep hairs from in growing help remind me how serious this is.
I am risking social reprisal, family rejection, and outright job loss by pursuing what I know is right, being myself.
By not being easy, I say focused.
That said, epilating my legs and chest seems to be getting easier.
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 23, 2016, 07:34:09 AM
The Braun I bought has a cap for facial epilation. It is absolutely designed for use on the face. Always follow the manufacturer's advice for your particular epilator, of course.
I'd scrutinize an epilator's design claims by getting info from hair growth / removal experts in other areas of the business (i.e., electrologists, laser techs, trans folks who have gone through extensive perm removal). I'm not saying the claims are inaccurate, just that I'm not sure they imply side effects won't occur, especially for cases of non-fine hair.
I've heard a consistent stream of both trans voices as well as electrologists who outline that epilators on the face are a bad idea because they can cause a whole host of problems including some which can make later perm removal via either laser or electrolysis more difficult.
The following is related, may or may not be useful...
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,85813.0.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,85813.0.html)
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,93898.msg728976.html#msg728976 (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,93898.msg728976.html#msg728976)
Search Google for "->-bleeped-<- epilating facial transgender" and you'll see a top hit covering the same issues.
I just wanted to pass this on because I think facial hair can be more complex than it seems at first. At least that's what I found out, what with various types of hair such as vellus versus terminal, how tweezing, shaving, laser, and all that can effect things, and that sort of stuff. Apparently plucking facial hairs en masse can have negative side effects in the long run, or so some voices say. It leaves me wondering if surface claims of an epilator should not be tempered with some of these other voices. I'm not scientifically sure myself, but that is where my faith is personally.
Quote from: Kao3 on January 23, 2016, 04:40:39 PM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 23, 2016, 07:34:09 AM
The Braun I bought has a cap for facial epilation. It is absolutely designed for use on the face. Always follow the manufacturer's advice for your particular epilator, of course.
I'd scrutinize an epilator's design claims by getting info from hair growth / removal experts in other areas of the business (i.e., electrologists, laser techs, trans folks who have gone through extensive perm removal). I'm not saying the claims are inaccurate, just that I'm not sure they imply side effects won't occur, especially for cases of non-fine hair.
I've heard a consistent stream of both trans voices as well as electrologists who outline that epilators on the face are a bad idea because they can cause a whole host of problems including some which can make later perm removal via either laser or electrolysis more difficult.
The following is related, may or may not be useful...
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,85813.0.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,85813.0.html)
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,93898.msg728976.html#msg728976 (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,93898.msg728976.html#msg728976)
Search Google for "->-bleeped-<- epilating facial transgender" and you'll see a top hit covering the same issues.
I just wanted to pass this on because I think facial hair can be more complex than it seems at first. At least that's what I found out, what with various types of hair such as vellus versus terminal, how tweezing, shaving, laser, and all that can effect things, and that sort of stuff. Apparently plucking facial hairs en masse can have negative side effects in the long run, or so some voices say. It leaves me wondering if surface claims of an epilator should not be tempered with some of these other voices. I'm not scientifically sure myself, but that is where my faith is personally.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I guess I could waffle back and forth trying to second guess a manufacturers claims about a rolling pin actually rolling dough as they claim too! I'm not going to, though. The Epil-9 comes with attachments and instructions on how to epilate and exfoliate your face. It does the same job I do with tweezers in a fraction of the time. I give the product a ringing endorsement.
"It leaves me wondering if surface claims of an epilator should not be tempered with some of these other voices."
They are, you have my voice. I don't work for Braun. My input as a user of the -9 is surely more valuable than the input of someone who hasn't used one. :)
Hugs, Devlyn
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 02, 2016, 07:59:56 AM
... I just bought a Braun Silk-Epil 9, it was $124...
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 23, 2016, 05:33:13 PM
... I give the product a ringing endorsement.
... They are, you have my voice. I don't work for Braun. My input as a user of the -9 is surely more valuable than the input of someone who hasn't used one. :)
No worries... just passing on info which I thought may or may not be helpful for you or others to consider. I mentioned earlier that I can't say with certainty. Assuming you truly just purchased it, seems too soon to develop a definitive understanding of its long term effects.
By the way, one of the susan.org's threads I shared had some pro-facial-epilator folks too, if you didn't see that. ;D
Got say. I'm glad it's not just me. I started with laser and now after 18 month have go to an epilator. Yes for the first 2/3 attempts it's painful on the face, but it becomes bare able. Personally I think the bikini line was the worst bit to start!
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I bought an epilator to use on my arms. Besides the fact that it hurt like hell, it made my arm break out in a lot of red bumps. When they went away my arms were nice and smooth! But I decided to shave them after that. Lol.
Regarding your face; they advise against it. I tried it and besides not working well, it hurt more than my arms! But I have very thick facial hair. I've tried tweezing my face, and it actually made it bleed! So it depends on your facial hair.
I had been out of work for a while, but once I get back on my feet I'm going to start laser. My facial hair is so dark that I always have a shadow, even immediately after shaving. :(
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When I went in for electrolysis I was told by the tech not to do any tweezing, waxing, etc. She told me that it damages the hair follicles which make it harder to remove later. I trust her because she is one of very few state licensed practitioners in the state and has decades of experience. I am in the same boat as you (broke) but unfortunately I'm just shaving and waiting till I save enough to do something permanent. That is my two cents, at least.
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Here are some shots to bring everyone up to speed on what the newest epilators are all about. You can click the images to enlarge them. I have the 9-579.
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The Facial cap is Item #8 in this picture.
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The pens indicate the Facial cap (#8), and an additional facial epilator not included with mine.
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Facial epilation instructions part I.
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Part II.
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Optional facial epilator instructions part I
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Optional facial epilator instructions part II>
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So, as we see, it really isn't a concern that epilators aren't made for the face, because they are. Don't let old thinking hold you back.
Hugs, Devlyn
I have not tried my epilator on my face, nor do I plan to. My face is the only area that doesn't break out from shaving so I will stick to a razor until I can afford a more permanent option.
As far as the rest of the body, it works well enough. I have very thick and dense hair and it manages. I would avoid the genitals like the plague though. I finally was brave enough to do my nether regions the other day. It got a little too close to the scrotum and grabbed a few hairs...ouch. I have a high pain tolerance and can ignore the rest, but that was a bit much.
I am a confirmed masochist. I get a thrill out of being smacked, slapped, pinched, spanked, hot candlewax, thrown to the ground in martial arts...so no big deal, right?
$#%&$#@&%$#@&%$#@&%$#@$&!!!!!!
Those things suck!
I'm glad this works for you, but I doubt if it's for everybody. Different people have different types of skin on the face, as well as different degrees of facial sensitivity. I have pretty thin skin and can practically bleed from a mean look, so I won't be epilating my face. Another consideration would doubtless be the density and heaviness of the facial hair, which also varies. I can't imagine these things are intended for removing dense areas of hair well.
I have bought the Emoji unit and have used it on my legs and back of my neck with good results.
I have found so far there is a lot less discomfort than waxing but am yet to compare the amount of hair removed with the time of regrowth.
I am letting some facial hair grow to give this area a try and am a little nervous about the outcome.
I also cant grow much hair on my head so will do small bits at a time to see results from looks and discomfort.
Hi SueNz
I only shave my legs in the winter when I have to wear longs outdoors, but love the feel of shave legs in stockings.
Mandy
I've never had a full beard but I could grow a pretty wild mustache and goatee back in the day... I've tried a couple of epilators but didn't have much luck :-\ I'm probably just going about it all wrong but they somehow didn't do much but get stuck and then try to eat my face
I use the tweezers from my Swiss Army knife to pluck the lil' somethin' somethin's, it's a bit painful but only takes me 10-20 min.s depending on how long I've let it go
Quote from: Lyric on February 22, 2016, 09:51:49 AM
I'm glad this works for you, but I doubt if it's for everybody. Different people have different types of skin on the face, as well as different degrees of facial sensitivity. I have pretty thin skin and can practically bleed from a mean look, so I won't be epilating my face. Another consideration would doubtless be the density and heaviness of the facial hair, which also varies. I can't imagine these things are intended for removing dense areas of hair well.
This has been my experience as well. My skin is so delicate on my face that an epilator would tear it up like a paper shredder. Believe me, I've tried. It still works wonders on my legs, but that's it. Girls, be very careful with stuff like this.
A big part of it would be how thick/coarse the hair is. On my face the hair is very coarse and very dense. This is part of why the epilator doesn't go near my face. My chest was very coarse, but not as dense and the was difficult enough to clear. Plus is it wrecks stuff there, I can cover it up. Face would make for some interesting conversations with people.
Well, what an interesting experience.
I went home last night with bristles on my head, face, legs and nether region. I stood at the bathroom mirror, turned on my Emoji and started experimenting.
Legs, easy, right now for the groin. Managed to get half done before it became too much. Then my face around my bottom lip, ouch but tolerable. I made a few runs around my neck and chin but was cautious as my wife is well against me on this area. Again it was tolerable but definitely the heavy dark hairs are well attached. Now for my balding head, Top area was easy as not much up there, then slowly down to my ears. I could only manage 10-15mm all around my head then did the complete sides and back of my neck.
Overall I was surprised the pain did not meet my imagination and will be regularly trying to remove more and more then it will be easier to manage.
I am on the fence at the moment if I will stick with the epilator on my legs or go back to waxing as I still cant get all the hairs out. Might just be finding the right timing and system.
I see now that epilator to the face will be a personal choice and if you have a reasonable pain tolerance, I do recommend trying.
One thing about epilating your legs is that you will have some stubble until you get all the hair on the same growth cycle. Even though it is extremely tempting early on to run over them every couple of days for the stray hairs, you are not doing yourself any favors in the long run. After a few cycles of every other week the hairs should line up in their. Growth and you should be without the stray hairs all over. YMMV of course.
Just got my Braun silk epil 9 today from Amazon. Omg love it. So much better than what I was using.
Hi Amber,
I took on board your advice and am waiting for a bit more growth.
Had a bit more of a go down below and am enjoying the look and feel.
Did a bit more to my head and it's slow going but I will slowly persevere.
Wish I could grow hair but never mind. I was always told attack is the best means of defense so I am attacking hard.
Happy epilating😃😳
I have been epilating my entire body for over 5 years, but I only tried my face once. Why only once? Because it overstressed the epilator motor and I ended up having to buy a new one because it was never as good after that.
Oh yes, and it hurt like the blue blazes and the bruising took so long to go down that my facial hair was already coming back before it went down!
Reading through this thread is making me ashamed at my lack of tolerance for pain, and empathic with those also expressing "ow".
Ow
Maybe I should man-up...
Oh...yeah...right... :P
Several dozen moons ago, I bought a braun epil-something (it was blue...)
Used it to completely clear my chest, belly, arms, and legs. I think the first time, I enthusiastically ep'd my entire chest at once, after first trimming it down, using attachments that came with it. After that first triumph, however, I could only tolerate a couple of minutes per day. It was, for me, a fairly excrutiating process to perform on myself.
So clearing everything would take a couple weeks. I re-did this process 3 times, before giving it up as a pastime.
T'was smoooth though :)
I tried the face. Once, for a couple minutes on the chin maybe. Never went there again.
Continued to use "epi-blue" as a trimmer for body hair when I was in guy mode, and content enough just to have less hair.
I nowadays prefer being smooth as much as possible, and am going through razors faster than lipstick :-*
i have never tried one of those on my face sounds painful to me
The first time you pull out a hair with tweezers, it feels like you pulled out your brain with it. After you tweeze for awhile, you don't even notice it. Using an epilator to get it done really fast is just the next step.
Hugs, Devlyn
I have also discovered that pfb vanish is amazing for reducing the number of ingrown hairs and exfoliating.
I can not remember if i have ever have heard of a Epilator. Where are they sold at(Walmart?) and how much?