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Community Conversation => Transitioning => Hormone replacement therapy => Topic started by: Iliana.Found on February 23, 2016, 01:12:52 PM

Title: Soreness and growth...
Post by: Iliana.Found on February 23, 2016, 01:12:52 PM
Hello,

Do your breasts grow every time they are sore? Do they grow when they are not sore?

I'm asking because my breasts are sore quite often, but I've been an A for quite some time. Like many others the soreness started within 1week of beginning HRT and continuously hurts in spurts of weeks. Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Soreness and growth...
Post by: KayXo on February 23, 2016, 01:22:42 PM
Whenever my breasts grow, they are sore BUT soreness does not always equal to growth. That is my personal experience.
Title: Re: Soreness and growth...
Post by: RobynD on February 23, 2016, 02:10:50 PM
Everyone is different of course. My soreness started immediately and has continued the entire year, with significant growth.
Title: Re: Soreness and growth...
Post by: Iliana.Found on February 23, 2016, 04:03:45 PM
Thanks. It must be that amount of growth depends on the person of course. Maybe mine do grow when they are sore, however not a noticeable amount until after a few sore spurts.

:)
Title: Re: Soreness and growth...
Post by: Maybebaby56 on February 23, 2016, 05:10:33 PM
I noticed soreness in my breasts a couple of weeks after starting HRT, and breast nodules started developing.  Then the nodules sort of went away and the pain stopped.  I've been on hormones a little over six months. Several weeks ago my nipples starting hurting all the damn time. I have to be careful when I roll over in bed! I can't say if it has anything to do with growth, though. I have gained so much weight on HRT it's hard to tell.

~Terri
Title: Re: Soreness and growth...
Post by: HappyMoni on February 23, 2016, 10:20:57 PM
My boobs were hurting for the first 8 months (Good growth). I recently upped my Estradiol to the max level and cut the Spiro in half to do it. All of a sudden all soreness and growth stopped. It's about three weeks now. Doc says my body might be thinking T is too low and is doing kind of like a bounce. Supposed to increase Spiro to start then maybe reduce E. Anyone experience anything like this? I miss my soreness.
Moni
Title: Re: Soreness and growth...
Post by: KayXo on February 24, 2016, 10:20:20 AM
Spiro is anti-androgenic so less spiro would allow more androgen to affect your body. I'm not surprised at these results, androgens will negatively breast growth and feminization. The reason for the bounce is because you reduced your Spiro not because your T is too low. So T is likely higher or/and T/DHT more active (less blocked by spiro).
Title: Re: Soreness and growth...
Post by: .Christy on February 26, 2016, 02:12:41 PM
well for me, as long as i've got the lumps behind the nipples i can tell they are developing. the lumps may or may not be accompanied with soreness either.
Title: Re: Soreness and growth...
Post by: Rachel on February 27, 2016, 02:42:56 PM
I have been growing but slowly. I have noticed I am getting fuller which is welcome. My size is A plus. I use to get sore periodically but now I get itchy periodically with high sensitivity in my nipples.
Title: Re: Soreness and growth...
Post by: rikki88 on February 27, 2016, 05:26:41 PM
My Spiro was upped at the beginning of the month. My soreness went away and just recently my random erections came back. No morning ones but yea.... Now my nipples are super sensitive and sore all the time.
Title: Re: Soreness and growth...
Post by: KayXo on February 28, 2016, 10:41:09 AM
Quote from: rikki88 on February 27, 2016, 05:26:41 PM
My Spiro was upped at the beginning of the month. My soreness went away and just recently my random erections came back. No morning ones but yea.... Now my nipples are super sensitive and sore all the time.

About Spiro (and cyproterone acetate), two things that are not so well-known:

1) they bind to androgen receptors, thereby blocking T and DHT BUT do have slight androgenic activity, although much weaker than testosterone or DHT.  This is why in an environment where T and DHT are already low, administering either could have undesirable effects or taking too high a dose.
2) both these "anti-androgens", not pure "anti-androgens" (closest being bicalutamide), also increase hepatic enzyme CYP3A4 responsible for metabolizing oral estradiol so they could well reduce concentrations of E2 in the blood if your E is taken orally.

Usually, they will be more beneficial than not but there might be situations where dose is too high or when taken post-op, that they might actually do more harm than good. Something to consider.