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Activism and Politics => Politics => Topic started by: KarlMars on April 30, 2016, 07:30:00 PM

Title: If Trump won
Post by: KarlMars on April 30, 2016, 07:30:00 PM
what kind of bearing do you think it would have on trans rights? I apologize if I haven't paid enough attention to the election.
Title: Re: If Trump won
Post by: Eevee on April 30, 2016, 07:43:17 PM
The way I see it, Trump hasn't made any anti-trans motions. However, he is in favor of giving that and other choices back to the states. In his hands, the states that want to make anti-LGBT laws will, which is obviously not good for us. On top of that, Trump does not respect women at all. I don't know what that might mean as far as laws go, but it's definitely not a positive.
Title: Re: If Trump won
Post by: HappyMoni on April 30, 2016, 07:44:44 PM
Trump is a "loose cannon," it's impossible to tell what he really believes and what he just says to get elected. You know, a typical politician. If he hates Muslims then why not hate trans people as well. If you want a better outcome for trans people root for the Democrats. They are usually fairly spineless (in my opinion), but are more trans friendly.
Moni
Title: Re: If Trump won
Post by: stephaniec on April 30, 2016, 08:08:56 PM
the best thing to do is get out and vote
Title: Re: If Trump won
Post by: Mariah on April 30, 2016, 08:18:29 PM
A friendly reminder. Please no bashing.
Title: Re: If Trump won
Post by: suzifrommd on April 30, 2016, 08:49:16 PM
Prospects for a Trump Victory and What it Means For Us (https://www.susans.org/2016/03/04/prospects-trump-victory-means-us/)
Title: Re: If Trump won
Post by: FTMax on April 30, 2016, 10:22:54 PM
It's tough to tell, because he lacks consistency. IMO, I think he'd be an absentee president. I would not be surprised if he spent as much or more time on vacation than Bush Jr. And it's hard to accomplish things when you're not present to win allies in Congress to do your bidding. I think that's also an area he would struggle with. Cruz is arguably less well liked among his peers, but I don't think anyone on the right is exactly thrilled with the circus that this election has turned out to be, largely due to Trump's involvement. I think he would have a hard time gaining support for any measures he wanted to pass. My only concern would be what kind of appointments he would make to the Supreme Court, as a few of the justices are getting up there in age. I really have no idea who he'd nominate.

I will caveat this conversation with this - who the President is has much, much less bearing on your daily life than who your state and local officials are and what they stand for. While it is important to vote in the primaries and in the general election, make it a point to vote in EVERY election. Vote for local and state candidates who have demonstrated themselves to be allies of our community. These are the people who will help oppose things like bathroom bills, make it easier for folks to change their gender markers, enable people to alter their birth certificates, and so much more. It's a sad fact that these elections get a fraction of the turnout that presidential elections do, when they have the most immediate impact on your personal quality of life.
Title: Re: If Trump won
Post by: Eevee on May 01, 2016, 01:15:34 AM

Okay this seems to be directed at my points, so I will go ahead and respond. I don't listen to "the liberal agenda". I was specifically talking about what I've heard from Trump himself.
As far as spinning, that is certainly what Trump seems to be doing. When pressed with LGBT issues, he is never initially against us and stays completely neutral. Smart. However, he has also stated for both gay marriage and transgender bathroom bills that he will not actually support us from a presidential position. Instead, he will just toss the power to discriminate over to the states that wish to do so. He has even made a statement about reversing gay marriage back to a state vote.

Mod Edit- No bashing  and no attacking others TOS 10 and 15.
Title: Re: If Trump won
Post by: Cindy on May 01, 2016, 05:14:52 AM
I will remind everyone of my ruling here:

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,204838.0.html

Title: Re: If Trump won
Post by: Mariah on May 01, 2016, 11:29:56 AM
 :police:
That's enough. We can't talk about this subject civilly so we won't at all. Thread locked.