Hello,
I know that I may not fit in since this is a transgender forum but because I separate the term nonbinary from trans completely, I feel like maybe I have a chance in this section?
Even though I am not sure how other nonbinary people here apply the term towards themselves and what it means to them, I am really curious if it's any common for a person to be NOT trans WHILE being nonbinary, agender, gender nonconformist, androgynous, etc. BUT NOT trans.
So basically, I am wondering if there are any cis people who are comfortable with their gendered bodies but do not follow the stereotypical beliefs that people try to make them go through.
The best example, of how I define the nonbinary for myself would be is not conforming to the stereotypical assumed behavior and presentation a man or a woman should have.
Also, because of the fact that the category of nonconformism falls under the "trans" wording, would people still assume a cis nonconforming person to be a trans person?
The definition of transgender is someone who doesn't fit within the gender they were assigned; so all non binary people are transgender. Whereas cis gendered means a person who feels comfortable with the gender they were assigned. Gender non comforming would come under the trans umbrella as well. Although I'm conflicted if this word is necessary because clothes can't have a gender; nor is there such a thing as 'men only' roles and 'women only' roles. So yeah you'd be classed as trans nb.
Welcome to Susan's Place. Elis is correct in describing what transgender means. Another way to say it is transgender is somebody who is not CIS. The link to our WIKI (https://www.susans.org/wiki/Transgender) will show you the definition that is the standard used by everybody. What you may be doing is misunderstanding the short trans. Many people consider it to be transsexual which is separate from non binary. When you combine both transsexual and non binary the group is trans or transgender. If I refer to my former condition, I refer to it as transsexual though it is a subset of being transgender. I feel transsexual is a much more exact term to describe me.
In any case, you are welcome to the non binary group and should you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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Since the transgender definition seems to be expanded way too much from what I've seen last time, it makes me even more uncomfortable when people assume that I am trans, like even in here because I am not transgender.
I was assigned male at birth but I actually have no problem with my gender. I don't feel anything like I am supposed to be this way because I am male.
I simply don't believe in the binary nonsense of, literally the differentiation of the two genders and their associated materialistic aspects such as clothing, hairstyles, and the way that one is supposed to act like based on their assigned gender "roles". I completely ignore what people say about me so in turn I have no problems being myself.
Another thing is that, I don't have gender dysphoria, I simply don't conform to the nonsense of "the color pink, makeup and dresses are only for women" type of thing so that's where my nonconformism comes from.
I guess anything that doesn't fit into a hetero"normal" box would even be assumed as gay when its beyond senseless that they do that since that is all about attraction and nothing else.
Thank you both for clarifying how majority of the people define the terms that fit me though.
I am thinking about just sticking with being a gender nonconformist and may not even use the words non binary or even androgynous anymore.
There's a political aspect to the terms, too.
One reason for defining "transgender" so broadly is because all groups under the transgender umbrella face gender policing, regardless of their identification. Unfortunately, transsexuals (i.e., people who feel like they are or want to be a different gender) are so visible as to allow people to forget that other possibilities exist.
One example of a young gender non-conformer is Lori Duron's son, described on raisingmyrainbow.com . She and her son face many of the same issues that transsexual children and their parents face.
BTW, I know that "transsexual" has become unfashionable, but if you're going to define "transgender" so broadly, you need a term to describe the subset that aren't satisfied with their assigned gender. Definition creep....