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Title: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: Angélique LaCava on June 14, 2016, 11:22:33 AM
I was prescribed  medroxyprogesterone, I've heard mixed things but I guess I'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: RobynD on June 14, 2016, 11:48:06 AM
I've been on the prometrium version of this about 3 months. So far all positive, my breasts are definitely getting rounder, my spouse noticed it before i did. I'm sleeping a bit better and i have seen none of the potential negative effects.
Title: Re: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: kittenpower on June 14, 2016, 12:28:58 PM
I have read negative things about that drug, please make sure you do as much research as possible before you start taking it.  Prometrium is a bio identical progesterone that is supposed to be a much safer option, the out of pocket cost is expensive, but it is better to spend more money than to risk your health. And a lot of physicians do not believe that progesterones have a substantial benefit for trans women.
Title: Re: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: mmmmm on June 14, 2016, 01:46:59 PM
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on June 14, 2016, 11:22:33 AM
I was prescribed  medroxyprogesterone, I've heard mixed things but I guess I'll see what happens.

This is not the same as progesterone, and unlike actual progesterone, it is linked to many unwanted side effects. Its confirmed by quite many studies. Your doctor should be aware of that.

Can you ask for bioidentical progesterone instead? Brand names are Prometrium, Utrogestan, etc...
Title: Re: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: Randi on June 14, 2016, 02:23:49 PM
medroxyprogesterone is a progestin, not progesterone.  Microgest and other micronized progesterones are much safer.  Be on the lookout for depression, suicidal ideation and other mental problems.   

Quote from: Angélique LaCava on June 14, 2016, 11:22:33 AM
I was prescribed  medroxyprogesterone, I've heard mixed things but I guess I'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: Angélique LaCava on June 14, 2016, 02:28:56 PM
Quote from: Randi on June 14, 2016, 02:23:49 PM
medroxyprogesterone is a progestin, not progesterone.  Microgest and other micronized progesterones are much safer.  Be on the lookout for depression, suicidal ideation and other mental problems.
isnt progestins the same as progesterone? On the bottle it also has provera on it. The numbers on the pills r b 555873
Title: Re: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: mmmmm on June 14, 2016, 02:33:33 PM
its not the same... Provera (medroxyprogesterone) is synthetic progestogen, not a progesterone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progestin
Title: Re: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: Angélique LaCava on June 14, 2016, 02:43:26 PM
I called the pharmacist and he told me that the one he filled is a form of progesterone and that promethium and the one he filled should work the same. He said only difference would be the side effects.
Title: Re: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: mmmmm on June 14, 2016, 02:53:44 PM
Its not a form of progesterone. Its a progestin. Progesterone and progestins are in the same family of progestogens. But its not the same thing. Progestin mimics some effects of progesterone, but also have very high occurence of nasty side effects, and is generally less effective than progesterone. You should be taking bioidentical progesterone. Talk to your endocrinologist.
Title: Re: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: Angélique LaCava on June 14, 2016, 03:08:34 PM
I called my doctor she told me when she typed in progesterone provera popped up and she clicked on it and sent it to my pharmacy but she said that if I feel more comfortable taking prometrium then she has no problem calling the pharmacy and sending a prescription.... So she called the pharmacists n the prometrium is waiting for me to pick it up but since I paid for the provera already I'm going to just finish the bottle and get prometrium next month.
Title: Re: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: on June 14, 2016, 03:09:53 PM
I'm on Medroxyprogesterone too!  Script bottle says [medroxyprogesterone acetate / generic for provera XX (filtered dose) mg].

Now it makes sense why my Endo's nurse asked me if I was depressed or felt suicidal shortly after this was prescribed, hehe.

Been on the stuff for a long time and never got depressed or felt unbalanced; like, literally no side-effects.  To be quite honest tho, I don't really know what good it does either... I didn't ask for it, he just prescribed it.  I'm just one small voice, but I can report that it's been all good.

As is a platitude around here: YMMV
Title: Re: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: archlord on June 14, 2016, 08:36:35 PM
You are so early in transition to start using progesterone. IMO you shouldnt use until 1 year +
Title: Re: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: Angélique LaCava on June 15, 2016, 05:46:12 AM
Quote from: archlord on June 14, 2016, 08:36:35 PM
You are so early in transition to start using progesterone. IMO you shouldnt use until 1 year +
peoppe also say to wait to get implants for a year in hormone but u got them anyway..... Just saying. I'm only taking them to go up a cup size. My goal is a full B and right now at 7 months I'm a full large A.
Title: Re: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: archlord on June 15, 2016, 07:39:59 AM
Yes but this isnt same thing . People were talking about thing They dont know . im loving My breast size And shape And They are still growing  like My surgeon expected . Currently 34D and on its way to DD( I havent broke natural growing cycle like you are about to do ). You are lucky and  Had fast And early Breast development . You are in a rush to have breast And I understand It . I remember a couple post of you not long ago where you were saying about being jaleous of ts with implants And That you cant afford It . It would be Sad if You are getting lower then expected development because you want to speed up things to much . It takes up to 3-4 year to have full development medically . My friend did get natural C cup but she was small B the first 2 years And without progestérone . With progestérone you might have extra development fast then after It Will be over as fast as you started It . Warning you
Title: Re: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: Angélique LaCava on June 15, 2016, 09:00:43 AM
Quote from: archlord on June 15, 2016, 07:39:59 AM
Yes but this isnt same thing . People were talking about thing They dont know . im loving My breast size And shape And They are still growing  like My surgeon expected . Currently 34D and on its way to DD( I havent broke natural growing cycle like you are about to do ). You are lucky and  Had fast And early Breast development . You are in a rush to have breast And I understand It . I remember a couple post of you not long ago where you were saying about being jaleous of ts with implants And That you cant afford It . It would be Sad if You are getting lower then expected development because you want to speed up things to much . It takes up to 3-4 year to have full development medically . My friend did get natural C cup but she was small B the first 2 years And without progestérone . With progestérone you might have extra development fast then after It Will be over as fast as you started It . Warning you
my doctor put me on a low dose if that makes any difference.
Title: Re: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: RobynD on June 15, 2016, 03:45:21 PM
I'd never heard that progesterone could accelerate breast growth but in the longer term truncate, it before. Would love to know if anyone has some studies or research material on it.

Title: Re: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: KayXo on June 15, 2016, 05:07:55 PM
Progesterone, unlike medroxyprogesterone acetate, hasn't shown to increase breast cancer risk, have negative effects on coagulation nor any androgenic effects. Mood problems also can occur more with medroxyprogesterone acetate and bio progesterone may actually improve some peoples' moods, due to its antidepressant/anxiolytic actions. It also doesn't negate estrogen's favorable cardiovascular effects.

Study after study has shown progesterone to simulate certain structures in the breast that estrogen alone cannot. It has shown to increase growth in some girls while do nothing significant in others. A paper on transsexual women concluded a progestogen is required for full breast development. It can make breasts rounder, feel fuller and can help increase nipple size. Orally, bio-availability is poor so sometimes higher doses are needed. Check with your doctor.

I see no reason to not take progesterone right away and to base it on the fact that cisgirls experience an increase in estrogen first during puberty followed by progesterone years later is not a good reason, in my opinion. We don't know why this occurs and so cannot postulate it is more favorable for breast growth. My 2 cents...

Be safe and happy your doctor prescribed you the safer and more favorable progestogen, that is IDENTICAL to what your body naturally produces. :)
Title: Re: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: KimSails on June 15, 2016, 06:44:34 PM
Quote from: RobynD on June 15, 2016, 03:45:21 PM
I'd never heard that progesterone could accelerate breast growth but in the longer term truncate, it before. Would love to know if anyone has some studies or research material on it.

I don't have any knowledge of studies, but I wanted to mention that my endo said the same thing -- that progesterone may help breast development, but it also can stop the breast development you achieve from estrogen.  His recommendation was to start progesterone, if desired, after at least 2 years on estrogen. He also said that the effects from progesterone, if any, would be achieved in six months and that there was no need to take it long term.

I can't vouch for the accuracy, but I wanted to add the information I have from a knowledgable source.

Kim :)
Title: Re: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: RobynD on June 15, 2016, 11:06:02 PM
Interesting! I was prescribed prometrium after about 13-14 months of estrogen. I had already experienced fairly rapid breast growth and i have achieved a size (C cup) that i am happy with, but i will still be interested to see if things stop as it were.

I have definitely seen a rounding an a "maturing" of the areola in just a few months. My breasts continue to be sore as before, prometrium did not effect that in any way.
Title: Re: Started progesterone today. Kinda nervous.
Post by: KayXo on June 16, 2016, 10:31:29 AM
Quote from: KimSails on June 15, 2016, 06:44:34 PM
He also said that the effects from progesterone, if any, would be achieved in six months and that there was no need to take it long term.

I wonder what this assertion is based on and if there is any scientific basis to this.

Progesterone can also have many other benefits so stopping it may not be in one's best interest. For instance, it helps counter dry skin and brittle nails in some. In others, improves sleep/mood or fat distribution. Some will notice their breasts become less full upon withdrawal. It also seems quite safe to take long-term, based on studies.