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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: JenniferLopezgomez on June 16, 2016, 03:32:42 PM

Title: Bigot Sacramento "pastor" advocates mass murder of Orlando victims.
Post by: JenniferLopezgomez on June 16, 2016, 03:32:42 PM
Many of the religious and racist and sexisr bigots in the United States are currently at war against LGBT people. A so-called "pastor" in Sacramento California -- I used to live not far from there -- basically has come out publicly in favor of the terrorist murders of mosrly Latina trans and gay people in the worst civilian massacre in the history of the United States. This supposed pastor speaks straight from Satan and parrots the approval of killing of us minority LGBT people just as much as the Daesh (ISIS) bigots.

http://www.abc10.com/news/local/protest-against-anti-gay-verity-baptist-church-draws-large-crowd/246016107
Title: Re: Bigot Sacramento "pastor" advocates mass murder of Orlando victims.
Post by: ChasingAlice on June 16, 2016, 05:16:17 PM
he speaks for himself not Satan
Title: Re: Bigot Sacramento "pastor" advocates mass murder of Orlando victims.
Post by: Deborah on June 16, 2016, 06:57:15 PM
He wasn't the only one.


Sapere Aude
Title: Re: Bigot Sacramento "pastor" advocates mass murder of Orlando victims.
Post by: Kylo on June 16, 2016, 07:06:08 PM
I trust he'll be up for being shot up in his church by the same sort of people then. They don't seem to discriminate between gays and non-ISIS members.
Title: Re: Bigot Sacramento "pastor" advocates mass murder of Orlando victims.
Post by: DawnOday on June 16, 2016, 07:12:47 PM
Quote from: JenniferLopezgomez on June 16, 2016, 03:32:42 PM
Many of the religious and racist and sexisr bigots in the United States are currently at war against LGBT people. A so-called "pastor" in Sacramento California -- I used to live not far from there -- basically has come out publicly in favor of the terrorist murders of mosrly Latina trans and gay people in the worst civilian massacre in the history of the United States. This supposed pastor speaks straight from Satan and parrots the approval of killing of us minority LGBT people just as much as the Daesh (ISIS) bigots.

http://www.abc10.com/news/local/protest-against-anti-gay-verity-baptist-church-draws-large-crowd/246016107

Jenn. My grandparents were pentecostal / foursquare ministers. I learned my hate from them. Of course at the time it was civil rights for African Americans. It pains me that those that believe in scripture use it to distort their dogma to fit their perceptions. If the Verity church in Sacramento is anything like the Verity church in Auburn a large turnout is a crowd of 10 - 15.
Title: Re: Bigot Sacramento "pastor" advocates mass murder of Orlando victims.
Post by: CarlyMcx on June 16, 2016, 11:08:45 PM
That pastor is an immigrant from Venezuela.  He might change his tune if he knew that in the 1940's, people like him were treated just as badly in the Zoot Suit Riots.
Title: Re: Bigot Sacramento "pastor" advocates mass murder of Orlando victims.
Post by: 2cherry on June 17, 2016, 12:16:36 AM
He's no different from IS, cause he hijacks religion for this own twisted agenda and ignores rule no. 1: L O V E.
Title: Re: Bigot Sacramento "pastor" advocates mass murder of Orlando victims.
Post by: VeronicaLynn on June 17, 2016, 12:38:57 AM
Seems like he missed the Thou Shall Not Kill commandment. Maybe he can't count to 10 and got confused.

I wonder what the world would be like if people just followed that one commandment...
Title: Re: Bigot Sacramento "pastor" advocates mass murder of Orlando victims.
Post by: JenniferLopezgomez on June 17, 2016, 01:00:14 PM
Quote from: DawnOday on June 16, 2016, 07:12:47 PM
Jenn. My grandparents were pentecostal / foursquare ministers. I learned my hate from them. Of course at the time it was civil rights for African Americans. It pains me that those that believe in scripture use it to distort their dogma to fit their perceptions. If the Verity church in Sacramento is anything like the Verity church in Auburn a large turnout is a crowd of 10 - 15.

They are as mentally ill as Daesh (ISIS) supporters are mentally ill.
Title: Re: Bigot Sacramento "pastor" advocates mass murder of Orlando victims.
Post by: JenniferLopezgomez on June 17, 2016, 01:03:06 PM
Quote from: VeronicaLynn on June 17, 2016, 12:38:57 AM
Seems like he missed the Thou Shall Not Kill commandment. Maybe he can't count to 10 and got confused.

I wonder what the world would be like if people just followed that one commandment...

Not only THAT as you say Thou Shalt Not Kill -- How about a little emphasis on the Love Thy Neighbor message throughout much of the New Testament.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.  Lots of wisdom in those words, dontcha think ?  :)
Title: Re: Bigot Sacramento "pastor" advocates mass murder of Orlando victims.
Post by: RobynD on June 17, 2016, 01:04:46 PM
American Taliban. Truly freedom of speech should not include inciting violence. This person should be incarcerated some place.
Title: Re: Bigot Sacramento "pastor" advocates mass murder of Orlando victims.
Post by: JenniferLopezgomez on June 17, 2016, 01:10:25 PM
Quote from: CarlyMcx on June 16, 2016, 11:08:45 PM
That pastor is an immigrant from Venezuela.  He might change his tune if he knew that in the 1940's, people like him were treated just as badly in the Zoot Suit Riots.

Yeah Latins were treated horribly in Los Angeles, California, and other places way back when as you say. LGBT are a minority group about 11% of the population. As a trans lady I am a member of a VERY small minority group we are something like 0.3% of the population. Pretty horrible to say we should be murdered and exterminated.

Betcha this Sacramento un-Christian "pastor" would be delighted if I do my own suicide. Better that I stay happy and not give him the satisfaction of my own suicide. Jennifer xx
Title: Re: Bigot Sacramento "pastor" advocates mass murder of Orlando victims.
Post by: Tristyn on June 17, 2016, 01:38:52 PM
Quote from: JenniferLopezgomez on June 17, 2016, 01:03:06 PM
Not only THAT as you say Thou Shalt Not Kill -- How about a little emphasis on the Love Thy Neighbor message throughout much of the New Testament.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.  Lots of wisdom in those words, dontcha think ?  :)

I hear ya there, Jennifer, but the thing is we aren't seen as "others" in this current society. We are viewed as "exceptions" or something even "non-human." It's the labeling. With these labels come stereotypes, with stereotypes come phobia, and finally with phobia comes fear which often leads to hatred.

Funny how the man is supposed to be of God yet he advocates murder. Hmmm....Hey Jennifer, remember The 10 Commandments and how one of them says "Thou Shalt Not Kill?" It did not say "Thou Shalt Not Kill.....but LGBT people and LGBT Latinos are an exception to that."

I hate how people use the Bible to judge others. Even when Jesus says that it's wrong to judge. I am not religious, but I know I read the Bible alot more than most so-called Christians I have ever been associated with, like my father, who seems disappointed not at the fact that so many people lost their lives to another fellow human being but because the focus of the killings are on LGBT people. When I heard him say "LGBT," my mouth wanted to hit the floor....
Title: Re: Bigot Sacramento "pastor" advocates mass murder of Orlando victims.
Post by: JenniferLopezgomez on June 17, 2016, 02:20:42 PM
Quote from: RobynD on June 17, 2016, 01:04:46 PM
American Taliban. Truly freedom of speech should not include inciting violence. This person should be incarcerated some place.

Indeed! As a famous American jurist said a century or more ago, free speech does NOT include the right to yell FIRE in a crowded theater.

In Canada or the UK he would already be in jail or on criminal trial, for such hate speech is illegal in Canada and the UK. I agree with Canada and the UK on this issue even though I am American.

Such speech incites MURDERS and DEATH against small LGBT minority groups. xx
Title: Re: Bigot Sacramento "pastor" advocates mass murder of Orlando victims.
Post by: JenniferLopezgomez on June 17, 2016, 02:25:05 PM
Quote from: King Phoenix on June 17, 2016, 01:38:52 PM
I hear ya there, Jennifer, but the thing is we aren't seen as "others" in this current society. We are viewed as "exceptions" or something even "non-human." It's the labeling. With these labels come stereotypes, with stereotypes come phobia, and finally with phobia comes fear which often leads to hatred.

Funny how the man is supposed to be of God yet he advocates murder. Hmmm....Hey Jennifer, remember The 10 Commandments and how one of them says "Thou Shalt Not Kill?" It did not say "Thou Shalt Not Kill.....but LGBT people and LGBT Latinos are an exception to that."

I hate how people use the Bible to judge others. Even when Jesus says that it's wrong to judge. I am not religious, but I know I read the Bible alot more than most so-called Christians I have ever been associated with, like my father, who seems disappointed not at the fact that so many people lost their lives to another fellow human being but because the focus of the killings are on LGBT people. When I heard him say "LGBT," my mouth wanted to hit the floor....

It is pretty difficult to change the opinion of a Crotch-servative bigot. Their minds are already quite deranged and they are unlikely to change. We can hope, I suppose. Give it 100 years or so and it might change xx