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Title: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: Ella_bella on June 17, 2016, 06:14:21 PM
So do any of you post-op girls miss being able to pee standing up?

I don't very often, but on occasion in my less graceful moods I just do.

Perhaps my query is more about whether anyone misses having a choice about it?


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Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: AnonyMs on June 17, 2016, 10:24:27 PM
I can't speak for being post-op, but I sit at home and stand when I'm in public toilets, especially dirty ones. I think I'd miss that, thought I hear a lot of women "hover".
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: Dani on June 17, 2016, 10:52:45 PM
I am 4 months post-op and I do NOT miss peeing while standing in the least.  It is something that half the world population and I just do. No regrets here.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: Dena on June 17, 2016, 11:06:24 PM
To be honest, I never had the nerves to try it. My surgery isn't as neat and clean as modern surgeries and the labia are fat with excessive skin that might get in the way if I attempted something like that. I will stick with sitting so I know where everything is going.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: Jenna Marie on June 17, 2016, 11:11:10 PM
I do when I'm halfway up a mountain. :) I'm actually considering getting one of those devices that would let me do it, because I've had too many times where I had to choose between risking God knows what in my crotch and waiting and hoping desperately that my hiking speed would outpace my bladder.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: mac1 on June 17, 2016, 11:45:36 PM
I have not began to transition and still have those male parts  :( .  However I have sat or squatted full time ( even when peeing outside) for 19 years and do not miss standing.  I find sitting sitting to be more pleasant and am actually paranoid of the thought of standing.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: Nicole on June 18, 2016, 03:46:08 AM
I've tried to do it a few things since my GCS.

The first time was a out right unsuccessful effort.

I tried in the shower a few times thinking I worked it out, only to fail to hit the bowl each time.

Thought it would be a trick while camping, now I refuse to go camping, the peeing was only the tip of the iceberg.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: 2cherry on June 18, 2016, 06:21:12 AM
I got used to it really fast: the day after I was used to it... but I also thought: wouldn't it be nice to be able to stand and just point? because it is easy, practical.  :laugh:

The moments where I miss this ability, is when I am at a public restroom: Sitting down is impossible, and squatting/hoovering takes a lot of strength and agility/dexterity, especially when you have lower back pain.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: MysteyV on June 18, 2016, 06:50:01 AM
Definitely happy not having to look at that alien skin protrusion every time I need a wee but being a bit thrifty by nature I'm also not keen on going through additional toilet tissue

On balance ... Very happy.

:)
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: CrysC on June 18, 2016, 10:57:25 AM
I'm pre-op and never stand.  Mentally ew.  Now with that said, I am getting those paper funnels to help girls do this for when I go camping or places with port-o-potties.  I'll also leave some in my car in case I need to stop at a gas station.  More ew.   The one I was looking at is called "Freedom to Stand" which is disposable and 10 in a box.   
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: karenpayneoregon on June 18, 2016, 02:24:30 PM
I can definitively say that since my regiment for going has been sitting down two years prior to surgery that there is nothing missing in regards to standing up. One tends to adapt when the plumbing changes so my guess is the male method of doing soon will fade away.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: jfong on June 18, 2016, 04:29:30 PM
almost 2 yrs post, still missing the convenience of it, especially when outside and having to use one of those portable washroom.. not a fan. otherwise when the washroom are sufficiently clean I don't have a problem.

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Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: anjaq on June 18, 2016, 04:38:19 PM
Oh - I hardly even remember how it must have been to stand while peeing. I guess it would be a nice thing in some occasions, but I usually squat in all public toilets - or build a nest of toilet paper if I really have to sit. I often wish, they had those french or asian toilets here as well. You know, those that do not have a bowl and seat but are just designed to squat. It would make sqautting a lot easier actually. But those thingies that you can use to pee standing - I think they are not really that functional. After you used it, you have that thing and it is - well - peed upon. What to do with it? Unless you can wash ist thoroughly after using it, but the places that really scream for using one of these are also the ones that probably do not have the most hygienic place to wash hands either...
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: OCAnne on June 18, 2016, 06:51:17 PM
Hello, no I don't miss peeing standing up.  Would it be more convenient...but of course.  😋
While I can start with a nice stream it quickly fades out and would make a mess.
How do I know?  Because I pee in the shower, a very simple pleasure. 

Thank you,
Anne
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: Jenna Marie on June 18, 2016, 07:49:31 PM
Anjaq : As someone mentioned, they make disposable pee "thingies." :) I figure with a paper one, it's no worse than burying toilet paper on a mountain...
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: Ella_bella on June 18, 2016, 08:33:30 PM
Thanks so much ladies for the responses! It's nice to have such candid and open comments.

I've only recently reached 95% certainty that I'd like GCS/SRS so I'm just evaluating some of the things I *may* miss post-op. For me it's really just a convenience and doesn't even come close to being a reason for not going ahead.


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Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: mac1 on June 18, 2016, 09:11:31 PM
Quote from: Ella_bella on June 18, 2016, 08:33:30 PM
Thanks so much ladies for the responses! It's nice to have such candid and open comments.

I've only recently reached 95% certainty that I'd like GCS/SRS so I'm just evaluating some of the things I *may* miss post-op. For me it's really just a convenience and doesn't even come close to being a reason for not going ahead.


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Get in the habit of sitting now.  It will not be long before you find it to be more pleasant and totally get over the idea of standing.  Sitting has not been a problem for me.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: kimbee777 on June 18, 2016, 10:04:26 PM
No, even pre-op I always sat. When using public washrooms, I always "hover" above the toilet if there's no disposable covers. I agree that if you don't already, you really need to get in the habit before surgery. Something kind of funny is that sometimes when I pee late at night, I will grab for my former organ and realize there's nothing there  :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: anjaq on June 19, 2016, 03:53:07 AM
Quote from: Jenna Marie on June 18, 2016, 07:49:31 PM
Anjaq : As someone mentioned, they make disposable pee "thingies." :) I figure with a paper one, it's no worse than burying toilet paper on a mountain...
Yes, that may be an option - you still would also need toilet paper in addition to that though. What I do not get however is why this is an issue on a mountain? When I am outside, I just squat and pee - its more the man (as in male ;) ) made public toilets that are a massive design flaw because they are made for people to sit down on them but no one really likes to do that for hygienic reasons. I suppose if those paper thingies are soft enough they can just be flushed down or disposed in the waste bin that is usually there for sanitary items in womens bathrooms.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: Jenna Marie on June 19, 2016, 10:36:24 AM
Anjaq : The mountains I hike tend to have a lot of poison ivy. :) And I'm not very good at recognizing it... (I'm not sure if you have poison ivy in your area, but that is NOT something you want near the tender bits. It gets everywhere once you touch it, too, so to be perfectly honest I'm never 100% sure I don't have some on my hands/clothes while I'm out there.) Also, my impression is that one needs a bit less toilet paper with one of those doohickeys, at least, but either way, I'm more comfortable burying something biodegradable than finding out what happens when I grab/touch something I shouldn't.

I wouldn't risk standing to pee in a women's bathroom out of paranoia about the other *people* in there, so that's moot for me, but I'm sure you're right about the sanitary products bin.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: AnonyMs on June 19, 2016, 11:47:54 AM
Quote from: Ella_bella on June 18, 2016, 08:33:30 PM
I've only recently reached 95% certainty that I'd like GCS/SRS so I'm just evaluating some of the things I *may* miss post-op.

I tend to think that as long as you don't actually miss your penis the rest doesn't really matter. That would be kind of awkward.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: jfong on June 19, 2016, 01:03:32 PM
may I add, pre-op I used to hover too and it was easier back then when you can direct the stream. Post op, you might not have the luxury of being able to direct it properly. Sitting and squatting produces different kind of stream on my case, need to work on the squatting.

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Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: GoneGrl on June 19, 2016, 08:21:12 PM
Yikes! Is that even possible for  PostOp?

I mean I can actually pee but I have a very strong urine flow so it's like a high powered sprinkler.  If I attempted to do that i would everywhere. 

If I don't want to sit on a public toilet then I hover over it. Especially at Transbars which have the most disgusting restrooms ever.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: anjaq on June 23, 2016, 03:18:43 AM
Hmm - no poison ivy here, just nettles and such - but I would not squat in a way that anything touches me from below while I do that anyways - so it would not matter. I always carry a pack of paper wipes with me , so I try not to touch myself either because getting dirty hands there can cause me pimples and such - plus I do not want to have the pee on my hands either... So I think this is not that hard to avoid. 50% of the hikers have to deal with this and I doubt many of them have those thingies to stand up while peeing ;)
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: noleen111 on June 23, 2016, 10:05:13 AM
When I was pre-op I forced myself to sit and pee like a lady. Now, that I am post-op I am so use to sitting, its natural. I don't miss it at all.

Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: Shelly Maree on June 25, 2016, 05:52:40 AM
New here, but I can answer this.
Peeing like a male is only suitable for people living as males. I lived for 3 years as a pre op female, in which I found it would be difficult to pee like a male. Work clothes consist of knee length skirt and pantyhose. I found it impossible to lift skirt, down with pantyhose and panties, then stand to pee. In this situation, it was easier to sit, let alone the risk of dribbles. Even with everyday clothing, such as jeans, it is not as simple as "flopping it out like males". Once again down the jeans, panties, sit and then the dreaded tuck to get it all right again.

I actually find it much more easier and simple living as a post op female. The peeing thing is simple, Today's casual clothing (loose fitting skirt) simply lift the skirt, panties to knees, sit, small peek at cotton gusset for discharge, toilet paper, quick wipe, panties up and go.  How simple is that. Yes living as a male is simple for peeing, but life as a female is not difficult and I would never change a thing.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: mac1 on June 25, 2016, 08:59:17 PM
Quote from: Shelly Maree on June 25, 2016, 05:52:40 AM
............................ Yes living as a male is simple for peeing, but life as a female is not difficult and I would never change a thing.
Standing was never simple for peeing. Always uncomfortable at urinal next to another guy.  Frequently got disgusting wet spot on trousers due to getting the last spurt after tucking it back in.  Sitting has become the natural thing even though still living as male.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: Doreen on July 17, 2016, 04:57:06 PM
never miss what shouldn't have been there for me.  ;)
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: Debra on July 27, 2016, 07:30:14 AM
Quote from: Ella_bella on June 17, 2016, 06:14:21 PM
So do any of you post-op girls miss being able to pee standing up?

I don't very often, but on occasion in my less graceful moods I just do.

Perhaps my query is more about whether anyone misses having a choice about it?


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Not at all. Not that I ever peed standing up pre-op after I started transition anyway.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: V on July 27, 2016, 07:53:44 AM
I had sat down to pee for years before I even transitioned. It just felt better to me.
Once post-op, it was just pretty natural to continue doing this, and now it feels like I've always done things this way.
But it does remind me of a funny story. Once, not too long after I had had my op, I got up in the night go to for a pee. I was really half-asleep, and not exactly sure of what I was doing. And for some strange reason, I stood up, in front of the toilet, and fumbled for ages trying to find my willy. Of course I could not, and after a certain amount of fumbling had passed I muttered: "where is the damn thing?!"
I got annoyed and fully woke up and looked down to try to find it. At this point I remembered, and: "ahh, ohh you silly cow!" was what I uttered forth. Before turning around and sitting and peeing as usual whilst having a good laugh at myself. It's the kind of story I could only ever recount to other M2Fs, really.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: jujubes1986 on July 27, 2016, 09:41:23 PM
Quote from: Ella_bella on June 17, 2016, 06:14:21 PM
So do any of you post-op girls miss being able to pee standing up?

I don't very often, but on occasion in my less graceful moods I just do.

Perhaps my query is more about whether anyone misses having a choice about it?


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im not post op yet... ill be in 2 months but i do like having the options of having to pee either standing or sitting... im getting it out of my system now... cuz i know in 2 months i wont be able to pee standing up :0
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: Lady Sarah on July 27, 2016, 11:10:53 PM
I may still have part of my original equipment intact, tho shrunk 50%.... but I can say I haven't stood up to pee since starting hormones. I could not ever imagine standing to pee.

My husband asked me the same question when we were still just talking on the phone.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: spx_1112 on July 28, 2016, 12:23:05 PM
I always sit to pee.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: Sspar on July 28, 2016, 12:51:32 PM
this might sound stupid.. but its true.. when i sit to pee.. i have to be very careful or i pee all over the floor.. my peeing bit is kind of recessed.. and the upshot is the more i push down, the more the stream points up.. ( it then hits the bottom of the seat and trickles down the outside of he bowl..) Horray for surgery in 3 months to fix proper..
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: Shelly Maree on July 28, 2016, 07:46:24 PM
That's a funny experience from V. I bet you were pleased you couldn't find "it" there. I have not done anything like that, but in the early days getting dressed after showering etc, when putting on and pulling up my panties, I did go to find "it" and do the tuck, only to find nothing there, this did bring a smile. But honestly girls I can not even imagine what it would be like to have a penis after all these years. I am very comfortable with my body and everything feels right, and as previously mentioned the peeing bit is easy and I do not have a choice anyway.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: mac1 on July 29, 2016, 11:18:48 AM
I have now sat or squatted to pee full time for 19 years and it is natural for me to do so.  I never even consider standing.  My wife gave up intercourse over 7 1/2 years ago due to dryness and discomfort.  Thus, those parts  >:-) are just unnecessary, inconvenient, disgusting and unwanted.  It would be great if I could get total removal with a proper urethra relocation.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: V on July 29, 2016, 11:22:33 AM
Quote from: Shelly Maree on July 28, 2016, 07:46:24 PM
That's a funny experience from V. I bet you were pleased you couldn't find "it" there. I have not done anything like that, but in the early days getting dressed after showering etc, when putting on and pulling up my panties, I did go to find "it" and do the tuck, only to find nothing there, this did bring a smile. But honestly girls I can not even imagine what it would be like to have a penis after all these years. I am very comfortable with my body and everything feels right, and as previously mentioned the peeing bit is easy and I do not have a choice anyway.

Ha ha, yeah, I was very pleased not to suddenly find 'it' back down there again!
It took a while for my internal body map to reconfigure itself, but nowadays it's fine. I remember straight after having my op, and putting my hand down there, and my brain subconsciously expecting my hand to touch 'it', and it was such a weird feeling, like I was passing my hand through something that was no longer there. Like 'phantom limb syndrome' or something like amputees get, maybe?
I did (and occasionally still do) suffer from phantom pains 'down there'. As though some part of my male genitalia is really hurting, but of course there is nothing there to hurt, and it doesn't make much sense. Like an itch you cannot scratch.
I certainly don't want it back ever, no not ever! I'm pleased at how I look now, well as much as one can I guess.
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: mm on July 29, 2016, 03:03:49 PM
Does it ever feel like you have been kicked in nuts even though you don't have them anymore?
Title: Re: A question for the girls about peeing
Post by: V on July 30, 2016, 05:58:41 PM
Quote from: mm on July 29, 2016, 03:03:49 PM
Does it ever feel like you have been kicked in nuts even though you don't have them anymore?

No never had that feeling. But occasionally I do get very short bouts of very very sharp pain, I literally stop in my tracks and double up in pain. It's like I can feel every one of those stitches pulling.
Only happens once every few months though, so I just 'suck it up'.