What does it mean if you can't run a game on pc or it runs like a sideshow? It means my computer isn't good enough, right?
I would like to know how you figure out how far you are from the needed system specs. Higher number doesn't seem to represent better graphics card and such, so it's very difficult for me to know what things to upgrade.
I know how much ram I have and stuff but don't know what graphics I have. Any help would be greatly appreciated,
My computer can play games like far cry 2, which is a fairly old game I think but can't play games released lately.
Also if you have a console, you don't need to worry about upgrading anything after you purchase it, right?
I am not a gamer but I know how to put the hurt on a computer. If you have other programs running at the same time you are playing a game, the game will slow down. You can try shutting down the web browser, Email and any other active programs before starting the game. Another issue is the amount of RAM the program requires. Ram is cheap to upgrade but if you don't have enough it will really kill the performance of anything running on the system. Shutting down other programs will free up additional ram but there will be a minimum amount required. When I buy a system, I go for the additional ram so I don't have to upgrade latter. Many times the default system lacks enough ram from the factory.
Yes I do seem to have stuff running In the background, I'll kill them, but some games just flat out refuse to run.
I closed Skype and other applications near the task bar, and it seems to have sped things up a little, thanks.
What are your current system specs? GPU, CPU, RAM are the main things you look for, along with hard drive space, to have room for newer games.
Quote from: Angelyng357 on July 01, 2016, 03:55:16 AM
What are your current system specs? GPU, CPU, RAM are the main things you look for, along with hard drive space, to have room for newer games.
Intel core 2 duo, 2560 mb ram, not sure about gpu, is it the graphics card? I don't know how to look it up.
Yes, GPU is the graphics card. What operating system are you running? If there is a graphics card, it would be listed in devices on Windows under control panel. And you honestly would need a new computer in order to play anything out newer. That is extremely out of date. Only 2 gbs of RAM is really bad for anything new. The would explain why you get such bad frame rate.
Quote from: Angelyng357 on July 01, 2016, 05:14:20 PM
Yes, GPU is the graphics card. What operating system are you running? If there is a graphics card, it would be listed in devices on Windows under control panel. And you honestly would need a new computer in order to play anything out newer. That is extremely out of date. Only 2 gbs of RAM is really bad for anything new. The would explain why you get such bad frame rate.
Thank you, I clicked here and there, and it said geforce 210. It would help me very much if you posted your specs, so I know which processor is better than mine, I thought I had a lot of ram tbh, I use Windows 7
My computer is technically out of date too, but i built it for about 650 by myself. I have an Intel i5 processor, 8 gbs of Ram, and a Geforce GTX 750. I can run most newer games, but on low settings only. It's not much of a beast, but it does the job for what i like to play. Mk, That is a good os, in the sense of gaming. I've liked 10 so far, haven't seen much difference in performance with it, but thats not everyone's case. the 210 is fairly old by now, and with what you have said your specs are, it doesn't surprise me at all that you would have issues with newer games.
Cin, your PC has multiple outdated components. It's probably better to just buy a new gaming PC altogether since every component is so old... especially since it appears you don't have the technical expertise to upgrade it yourself.
Or you can just abandon PC gaming altogether and buy a console system like Xbox or Playstation. You never have to upgrade any parts on those machines.
Personally, I enjoy both PC gaming and console gaming, so I have everything... but it gets expensive... :)
Currently I have two workstations right now. A 980 + a 660, I use foremost for Gaming Videos + the later for Mild Gaming. The 660 is still pretty decent as I can Skyrim in High Detail fairly easy on Ultra Settings I lose a bit of framerate, but it's not too bad. Also saves on electricity using the lower-end PC for the most part! :P
The Love Shack(980 System) (I do want to upgrade to the 1080 now :/ LOL)
Operating System (OS) Windows 8.1
Control Processing Unit (CPU) Intel i5-4440 CPU @ 3.10Ghz
Random Access Memory (RAM) RAM 16.0 GB DDR3 1600
Motherboard (MOBO) ASUS Z-787-Pro
Power Supply Unit (PSU) Corsair CX 600M
The Iron Grenadier (660 System)
OS W7
CPU Intel Pentium G3258 Haswell Dual-Core 3.2 GHz
RAM 8.0 GB DDR3 1600
MOBO ASRock B85M Pro4/ASM
PSU EVGA 500B
To be honest of lately I've been feeling about cannibalizing my ASUS GTX GeForce 660 into the EVGA GTX GeForce 980 System as a PhysX Card.
My first system at the time without the 980 roughly cost me 1065 at the time, but I did have it discounted to 765 so I am a bit biased since I did have a deal sponsorship going on with ASUS + Corsair at the time. Which they even sold me a 660 at that time for 120 Bucks! But my new system with the 660 is relatively cheap. You might want to start saving up some money for a decently cheap system you'd be surprised about what you can get for only paying 650 Bucks right now.If your curious about my cases I'll list them - just lemme know.
But if/when you decide to build a PC if that's something you want... Always get the MOBO + CPU first those are the only parts that are really in my honest opinion that matter in the ways specs to the type of system you want to build. If you wanna head out to the AMD Side of things you'll find that you'll be saving some money 'typically'. I can't tell you what CPU is better than the other, but if you do go for an AMD PROCESSOR you won't be able to use it in an INTEL MOTHERBOARD and VICE VERSA. I recommend doing some research on your budget plan. But also take a look at usability. Usually when you want to build a PC it's for something that will last much longer than the ones that are generically made by companies like: Apple, Dell, ASUS, Sony, HP, Lenovo, MSI, Acer, etc. If you choose the generic route, please just please... Don't go with HP. ASUS, Acer, + Lenovo make some decent PC's IMO, but again I am a bit biased. My next PC is going to be an AMD and I'm not ashamed to admit that.
Other than that it's not hard to select the type of RAM you will need, but different boards and cpu's do have specific grades of speed of RAM it can take (or handle) So you might want to take a look at that. Then I suggest taking a look at alternatives for your system as I've said what whatever reasons you plan to go with it. Gaming might invest in a Water Cooling CPU System wouldn't hurt. I still use the stock cooler in my CPU and it's decent, but I've been heading towards that for awhile now. Power Supply is another matter if you don't plan to get a GPU in your system you can probably get away with a lower wattage unit. If your a neat freak you might want to get a Semi or Full Modular PSU so you can minimize the unnecessary cable issues you may or may not need use of or want.
If I missed something other than cooling fans just lemme know! I wanted 7 fans in my case and had to jerry-rig the fans with cable ties and directly port the power to the PSU itself. I ran out of case fans to plug into the MOBO itself.
Right now my PC is new, i built it from case up.
Mine is called the Black Widow
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.corsair.com%2F%7E%2Fmedia%2Fcorsair%2Fproduct%2520photos%2Fcases%2Fgraphite-series%2F780t%2Fblack%2Flarge%2F780t_black_001.png&hash=f4af9f2775650929bea0eb5e92ce23f3272cfb97)
inside it has:
Operating System (OS): Windows 7
Control Processing Unit (CPU): INTEL Core I7 - 6700 CPU @ 3.40 GHz
Random Access Memory (RAM): Kingston 16.0GB DDR4
Motherboard (MOBO): MSI Z170A GAMING M7
Power Supply Unit (PSU): Corsair HX1000i 80 Plus Platinum 1000W Power Supply
Graphics card: 2 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti
Soild State Drive: Kingston 230GB
liquid Cooling CPU: Corsair Hydro Series H100i V2 Liquid CPU Cooler
Hard Dive: 1 Tb high speed
storage Dive: 5 TB
the 1080 Graphics card is not worth it. , between the GTX 980 Ti and 1080.
and the 980 ti is less cost now.
if you have question im here ;D :)
Watch what you call generic. I am moderating you with
Mac Pro (Late 2013)
3.7 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon E5
16 GB 1866 MHz DDR3 ECC
AMD FirePro D300 2048 MB
In addition I have 4TB external memory.
Quote from: Asheylov on July 03, 2016, 01:53:55 AM
the 1080 Graphics card is not worth it. , between the GTX 980 Ti and 1080.
and the 980 ti is less cost now.
if you have question im here ;D :)
I do a lot more than gaming videos with my 980 and it does involve pixels, polygons, and art, but right now a 1080 isn't viable even if I'm into designing worlds and levels.
Quote from: Dena on July 03, 2016, 02:26:26 AM
Watch what you call generic. I am moderating you with
Mac Pro (Late 2013)
3.7 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon E5
16 GB 1866 MHz DDR3 ECC
AMD FirePro D300 2048 MB
In addition I have 4TB external memory.
Am I allowed to 'publicly' feel sorry for you? :'( I mean you can't do upgrades with it. Ram and HD yes, but you can't change out other features without a bit of tech skills and voiding the warranty.
Some laptops you are able to change out the CPU for something better, but many of them are integrated unto the mobo along with whatever GPU is on it. In most cases those laptops have their GPU Specs on the CPU itself all in one integrated package. I do love the overall professional design of Apple Products, but the fallacies on how they design, produce, and deliver their products could use a much more customization to increase the longevity of their devices. Although, there are many people who also don't mind cashing out huge bank to get the next gen as soon as it comes out as well. But Apple Products overall are rather expensive.
Quote from: Raye on July 03, 2016, 03:01:42 AM
Am I allowed to 'publicly' feel sorry for you? :'( I mean you can't do upgrades with it. Ram and HD yes, but you can't change out other features without a bit of tech skills and voiding the warranty.
Some laptops you are able to change out the CPU for something better, but many of them are integrated unto the mobo along with whatever GPU is on it. In most cases those laptops have their GPU Specs on the CPU itself all in one integrated package. I do love the overall professional design of Apple Products, but the fallacies on how they design, produce, and deliver their products could use a much more customization to increase the longevity of their devices. Although, there are many people who also don't mind cashing out huge bank to get the next gen as soon as it comes out as well. But Apple Products overall are rather expensive.
It depends on your point of view. My system was purchased two and a half years ago and still is around twice as powerful as yours. The system before that was purchased in 2005 and gave me 9 years of service before the OS started having issues with some of the web pages. I buy a system with far more power than my needs and I run it 6 year or better so that expensive system starts looking pretty cheap. By the time you replace the mother board, the processor, the ram, the graphics processor, you may as well replace the entire thing. Besides that, a computer is a tool to me and I don't want to spend all my time fixing the tool instead of the problem the the tool was designed to correct.
If you enjoy custom building computers and fighting them when you hit a hardware incompatibility, more power to you but I am willing to throw a bit more money at the problem so I don't have to do that.
As for why I go with Apple, Microsoft turns out operating systems that give me nothing but headaches. Every time I have to dig into the operating system I regret it. Apples OS has everything were it's easy to get at and I have few problems with it. They offer the entire software development platform free and if I want, I can use it at the UNIX command line level when the GUI is incapable of doing what I want to do. I will agree that many people don't desire any of the things I like about Apple products and they are free to buy something else but you don't need to feel sorry for me because I am buying exactly what I want for reasons that are right for me.
Quote from: Dena on July 03, 2016, 03:57:47 AM
It depends on your point of view. My system was purchased two and a half years ago and still is around twice as powerful as yours. The system before that was purchased in 2005 and gave me 9 years of service before the OS started having issues with some of the web pages. I buy a system with far more power than my needs and I run it 6 year or better so that expensive system starts looking pretty cheap. By the time you replace the mother board, the processor, the ram, the graphics processor, you may as well replace the entire thing. Besides that, a computer is a tool to me and I don't want to spend all my time fixing the tool instead of the problem the the tool was designed to correct.
If you enjoy custom building computers and fighting them when you hit a hardware incompatibility, more power to you but I am willing to throw a bit more money at the problem so I don't have to do that.
As for why I go with Apple, Microsoft turns out operating systems that give me nothing but headaches. Every time I have to dig into the operating system I regret it. Apples OS has everything were it's easy to get at and I have few problems with it. They offer the entire software development platform free and if I want, I can use it at the UNIX command line level when the GUI is incapable of doing what I want to do. I will agree that many people don't desire any of the things I like about Apple products and they are free to buy something else but you don't need to feel sorry for me because I am buying exactly what I want for reasons that are right for me.
You do make some valid points. I'm considering building a Mac at some point. You can buy the software from Apple themselves. But I don't know what the legalities are around for it. So until I find concrete proof I won't be sued that's something I'm considering. I use to make my own music and Pro Tools was something I preferred over the Windows Alternatives. I have an EME Background so working on parts isn't an issue. My system will still work well for at least 8 more years guaranteed. It's only two years old and I take good care of it meticulously cleaning out dust to increase it's lifespan. I will give you one thing the mobo did fail recently and had to be replaced because I didn't have an extra tool to use on the mobo to replace the Voltage Regulator that went out. But have most of the tools to properly repair the machine over all. I can get parts very cheap if need be so cost isn't an issue for me as much as trading parts for other parts. I do tend to program my own scripts to utilize the RAM associated with my machine to get the most out of certain programs when need be.
i also have a mac laptop , compared to my other one, its alright.
the main reason for the lap top is to write , java scripts. aka apps or security :police:
the main large tower aka black widow, is use to run games and more.
so i payed for it, but i get most of it back on tax.
As a techie and gamer myself (who always builds her own gaming rigs and home theater PCs), I think it's easy for me to get carried away and start talking shop when it comes to PC components and upgrades. I think most of you are similar, based on the responses I'm seeing. ;)
But let's not forget the OP's initial topic and question! Cin needs help playing PC games, and we should help her (sorry, you don't have a gender indicator on your profile, so I'm guessing you're a "she" and not a "he" or "they").
Cin, it seems like you don't know much about PC hardware, so it's probably not practical to build your own PC. So that means you need to buy a new computer, if you're still interested in PC gaming.
The questions you need to ask yourself (and share with us) are:
- what are some of the specific games that I want to be able to play on my new computer?
- what's my budget for a new gaming computer?
- am I willing to buy from an online-only retailer (such as Falcon-NW), or would I feel more comfortable buying from a bricks & mortar store (such as Best Buy)
Those are good places to start, and will help us direct you to the right answers.
Quote from: Raye on July 03, 2016, 05:18:38 AM
You do make some valid points. I'm considering building a Mac at some point. You can buy the software from Apple themselves. But I don't know what the legalities are around for it. So until I find concrete proof I won't be sued that's something I'm considering. I use to make my own music and Pro Tools was something I preferred over the Windows Alternatives.
To my knowledge, Apple will no longer permit clone systems and the currents software can't be purchased separately. The systems now come with a downloader built into the hardware and if you should have a mass storage failure, you have two options.
1. Tell the systems to restore it's self from your time machine backup.
2. Tell it to connect to Apple and download a new copy of the software.
I am sure it's a legal violation to duplicate that software and the software license for the OS only allows you to use the software on MAC products.
By the way, I use the term mass storage because they are now using flash memory in their systems and it's so much faster that rotating hard drives. If only it was a bit cheaper.
Quote from: EmilyMK03 on July 03, 2016, 11:41:25 AM
As a techie and gamer myself (who always builds her own gaming rigs and home theater PCs), I think it's easy for me to get carried away and start talking shop when it comes to PC components and upgrades. I think most of you are similar, based on the responses I'm seeing. ;)
But let's not forget the OP's initial topic and question! Cin needs help playing PC games, and we should help her (sorry, you don't have a gender indicator on your profile, so I'm guessing you're a "she" and not a "he" or "they").
Cin, it seems like you don't know much about PC hardware, so it's probably not practical to build your own PC. So that means you need to buy a new computer, if you're still interested in PC gaming.
The questions you need to ask yourself (and share with us) are:
- what are some of the specific games that I want to be able to play on my new computer?
- what's my budget for a new gaming computer?
- am I willing to buy from an online-only retailer (such as Falcon-NW), or would I feel more comfortable buying from a bricks & mortar store (such as Best Buy)
Those are good places to start, and will help us direct you to the right answers.
Thanks, your post helped a lot. I asked these questions to myself and I found them difficult to answer.
You're right, I don't know much but I found this thread really fascinating. You people seem to be discussing stuff I have no Idea about. :)
I'm still confused, it says geforce 210 in some places and Intel graphics in other places. I don't know which is better either. It appears some of you have multiple graphics cards and they're as expensive as my pc? :) my whole pc os cheaper than a 980 or whatever.
I used to have steam which let me buy games for cheap. My favorite kind of games would be gta 4 or Saints row, but It gets tough after 20% progress for me. Also I remember getting far in fable but getting stuck.
You have just stepped into the great Apple/IBM debate which I admit is off topic. My Apple system can run 8 thread with each thread being the same as a single processor before the days of multi threading process chips. I also have two graphic processor and each graphic processor is able to do the same amount of work as the 8 threads combined. Graphic processors are simple computers and not able to do all the functions of a normal processor chip but what they do, they do well and fast. Sometime games and (in my case) others software is designed to take advantage of the calculation power of more than one graphic processor. If you are a real power user, it may pay to put more money into a faster graphics processor and not worry about the computer as much.
You need to look at your budget and decide what your desires and needs are. Often a less expensive computer becomes obsolete pretty fast for power stuff but will be fine for a long time viewing sites like Susan's. When I purchased my Apple computer, I could have bought one with more processor cores but 4 giving me 8 threads was enough for my needs. The graphics processor also came in a more powerful flavor but the software I wanted it for didn't take advantage of the features of the more powerful graphic processor. As the result, I saved money and still found a system that matched my needs.
I suggest you make a list of what you wish to run now and in the future so the others can suggest a prepackaged system or one you can easily modify that would meet your needs. If you have budget considerations, mention those as well.
As far as I can tell, Internet browsing and movies are handled well by most systems, including mine, that tells me they don't need much.
I guess my requirements would be to play skyrim or gta 5 cause I hear a lot of good stuff about them. Also I would like them to play huge videos well like they do now, for 5 more years.
I think I'm completely out of my depth here, It's pretty complicated stuff to me, but it's been fun, and I need to know if my pc is really too old and I should get a new one altogether.
So if someone's graphics card is 1080, that makes mine seem really weak since there is such a big difference in number.
Just to weigh in.
I have a 2001 MacBook Pro with the duel core processor and I forgot what graphics card. I use that for music recording and it still works great for what I do.
For gaming however it is useless unless you don't mind everything set to low and a lot of lag.
For gaming I have a tower with an i7 and only a single graphics card. I don't play heavily so it suits my needs just fine.
If I were to purchase a computer now, I'd just check the recommended system requirements for the game you want to play and then shop for something equal to or a little better. That should keep you going for a few years.
Oh, I also use my iPhone as a preamp on my live stage rig. I'd love an iPad for that but Apple Just costs too much [emoji20]
Quote from: StevieC9 on July 03, 2016, 02:43:04 PM
Just to weigh in.
If I were to purchase a computer now, I'd just check the recommended system requirements for the game you want to play and then shop for something equal to or a little better. That should keep you going for a few years.
Oh, I also use my iPhone as a preamp on my live stage rig. I'd love an iPad for that but Apple Just costs too much [emoji20]
Thank you. That seems like a very good practical solution.
A while back ago I bought a very used Dell D630 great for listening to music and browsing the web, but not good for gaming. I upgraded RAM to 4GB DDR2, replaced the heat sink, cooling fan, + upgraded The CPU. I'm looking to increases that to 8GB which I can utilize with reinstalling Windows 7 32 Bit to 64 Bit. And replace the Mechanical to a Solid State Drive it'll smoother then at that point. I've already upgraded the BIOS so it can handle W7 64 well. The reason why I went with an older model was for schooling in my engineering courses and to keep track of my chemical measurement data. So I didn't mind that it was an old machine, but it can play OSRS + Morrowind very well.
As for the term GeForce GTX it's just Nvidia's product brand of GPU's. The 660 System only cost me 500 to build extremely cheap and a decent system. Like I said my ASUS GeForce GTX 660 can play Skyrim on High settings very decently. As for my 980 I got it for free from someone who owed me money. At the time she bought it brand new it cost her 650. I think right now on EBAY they go for a few 100 bucks.
Quote from: Cin on July 03, 2016, 02:01:26 PM
I'm still confused, it says geforce 210 in some places and Intel graphics in other places. I don't know which is better either. It appears some of you have multiple graphics cards and they're as expensive as my pc? :) my whole pc os cheaper than a 980 or whatever.
That is referring to your CPU, since Intel has built in graphics on their processors. however, it can not measure up to a graphics card, as a GPU is used to take the strain off the CPU for graphics.
Quote from: Raye on July 03, 2016, 11:34:15 PM
A while back ago I bought a very used Dell D630 great for listening to music and browsing the web, but not good for gaming. I upgraded RAM to 4GB DDR2, replaced the heat sink, cooling fan, + upgraded The CPU. I'm looking to increases that to 8GB which I can utilize with reinstalling Windows 7 32 Bit to 64 Bit. And replace the Mechanical to a Solid State Drive it'll smoother then at that point. I've already upgraded the BIOS so it can handle W7 64 well. The reason why I went with an older model was for schooling in my engineering courses and to keep track of my chemical measurement data. So I didn't mind that it was an old machine, but it can play OSRS + Morrowind very well.
As for the term GeForce GTX it's just Nvidia's product brand of GPU's. The 660 System only cost me 500 to build extremely cheap and a decent system. Like I said my ASUS GeForce GTX 660 can play Skyrim on High settings very decently. As for my 980 I got it for free from someone who owed me money. At the time she bought it brand new it cost her 650. I think right now on EBAY they go for a few 100 bucks.
That 660 sounds pretty good,
I found a friend's laptop that meets my requirements, it has i5 and 940m. I think it's good enough for me.
Quote from: Angelyng357 on July 04, 2016, 01:10:47 PM
That is referring to your CPU, since Intel has built in graphics on their processors. however, it can not measure up to a graphics card, as a GPU is used to take the strain off the CPU for graphics.
Thank you, it seems games run on 210 automatically.
You can get one off EBAY for about 75-90 dollar range, but I wouldn't go as far to purchasing one till you decided if you wanted to go with a console or just build a PC. I actually love my PS4, but it seems to be out of commission currently. I managed to solder of the poor HDMI Port (off), but without a better Lead-Free Solder Iron I won't be able to solder the new one on yet. So right now I've placed it on the back burner (in storage). I actually got mine new for 300 bucks after I got my 25% Discount working the Black Friday Sales hehe ^^ I made a fort + I called it! FORT BOXMOUTH!
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11045502_1175984175762642_3068978158260722693_n.jpg?oh=5358139a5f5c3a0c9eb8be5a6882371c&oe=57EAE2F5)
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12316438_1175984255762634_8676511158951469753_n.jpg?oh=886436bd6223b309662e75c8575cb2e1&oe=57FEC1AE) I know I haz 'issues', but Fort Boxmouth would not survive the battle for long for it to be sacked too easily to the rabid barbarians sacking the village square of the Meat District it would seem.
Cin,
I've been reading over your responses in this thread. You've mentioned a number of games that you enjoyed playing and/or wish to play in the future:
Grand Theft Auto series
Saints Row series
Fable
Far Cry 2
Skyrim
These are all games that were released on both PC and console platforms. If these are the types of games that you'll continue to want to play, you're probably better off abandoning the PC gaming platform and playing them on a console instead. Just buy a PS4 or Xbox One, and you'll be set for a long time, for a fraction of the cost of a gaming PC.
Usually people who buy and build gaming PCs do so for games that are exclusive to the PC... games such as World of Warcraft (and other popular Blizzard games), the Civilization games, and the upcoming Star Citizen, to name a few. There are also some edge cases where some games look better on the PC than the console (but you need to really spend big bucks to do that). Or some people may prefer to play a game on the PC instead of a console so they can modify the game with user-created mods (this was common in Skyrim)... but given your background I doubt you will want to do this. Or in some cases people will play a game on the PC instead of a console so they can play the game in 3D (also very rare).
But for you, your needs are simple, and the games you want to play are cross-platform. Just buy a PS4 or Xbox One and forget about PC gaming for now. You can play all your favorite games without the need for a gaming PC (it makes me sad to say that, because I've always preferred PC gaming, but I can't deny the reality of the gaming industry these days).
It seems console gaming Is best for me, as installing / playing games is simple and straightforward. I tried looking into upgrades but my knowledge is extremely limited.
Quote from: Cin on July 04, 2016, 07:02:04 PM
It seems console gaming Is best for me, as installing / playing games is simple and straightforward. I tried looking into upgrades but my knowledge is extremely limited.
Like I said I love my PS4 if I got it running I would have played that over my PC. I have some really nice games for it that aren't available on XOne OR PC/Mac/Linux. Like SAO LOL.
Quote from: Cin on July 03, 2016, 02:37:53 PM
I guess my requirements would be to play skyrim or gta 5 cause I hear a lot of good stuff about them. Also I would like them to play huge videos well like they do now, for 5 more years.
ok so i checked for you and it seems you should be able to play skyrim in the minimum requirements situation, but only by the skin of your teeth
http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/11231
as for gta 5 the only places that you fail to meet the minimum requirements is definetly the ram requires at least 4gb, so you could just buy some larger ram sticks and replace them, but the cpu is a bit short also
http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/grand-theft-auto-v/12455
Quote from: Cin on July 03, 2016, 02:01:26 PM
I'm still confused, it says geforce 210 in some places and Intel graphics in other places. I don't know which is better either. It appears some of you have multiple graphics cards and they're as expensive as my pc? :) my whole pc os cheaper than a 980 or whatever.
one thing that seems worrying about what you said about your graphics being intel graphics or geforce 210 makes me wonder if you have your graphics drivers installed correctly, i believe this is the link for your graphics drivers
32 bit os
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/99992/en-us
64 bit os
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/99994/en-us
updating your drivers is the best option to help your pc and it doesn't cost much, hope i helped
Madison
oh and by the way......consoles......ewww, spits on the ground in disgust
jk lol
Madison
Quote from: Madison (kiara jamie) on July 04, 2016, 08:03:11 PM
ok so i checked for you and it seems you should be able to play skyrim in the minimum requirements situation, but only by the skin of your teeth
http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/11231
as for gta 5 the only places that you fail to meet the minimum requirements is definetly the ram requires at least 4gb, so you could just buy some larger ram sticks and replace them, but the cpu is a bit short also
http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/grand-theft-auto-v/12455
one thing that seems worrying about what you said about your graphics being intel graphics or geforce 210 makes me wonder if you have your graphics drivers installed correctly, i believe this is the link for your graphics drivers
32 bit os
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/99992/en-us
64 bit os
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/99994/en-us
updating your drivers is the best option to help your pc and it doesn't cost much, hope i helped
Madison
Thank you, my old driver was a hundred version less than this new one...?? Like it went from 143 to 264 or something. I don't remember updating drivers at all, I don't know why.
That link is cool too, it seems like reading that minimum requirements gives a good idea of where my pc is lacking.
Quote from: Raye on July 04, 2016, 07:21:17 PM
Like I said I love my PS4 if I got it running I would have played that over my PC. I have some really nice games for it that aren't available on XOne OR PC/Mac/Linux. Like SAO LOL.
You had getting trouble getting Ps4 to run on your TV? Lol sorry, I don't understand what gaming terms mean. What is Sao? :)
My driver went from 200 to 300+ and I'm seeing better performance on far cry 2, but it still didn't run the new tomb raider, which I got for free, lol.
Quote from: Cin on July 04, 2016, 11:00:10 PM
You had getting trouble getting Ps4 to run on your TV? Lol sorry, I don't understand what gaming terms mean. What is Sao? :)
OH LOL nothing of the sorts it always ran on the TV, but taking it for trips and placing an HDMI Cable in and out doesn't help. SAO is Sword Art Online, they've made a 'decently' fun game from the series that correlates with the show + the previous game on the PSP into the PS4. If you look at the image you'll see what I'm talking about.
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13615445_1325204490840609_745297994950399716_n.jpg?oh=1624f515d9752ae69e9ac9dda96e1727&oe=57F9EE53)
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13592625_1325204447507280_3532706296749750423_n.jpg?oh=41632b59bb0f39c342e0e95ce205bf7b&oe=57FDFC1B)
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13614982_1325204457507279_5812553346075135839_n.jpg?oh=493b552e4cb009791da5e75fb47b8dec&oe=57EF2FDE)
Honestly this is some nice circuitry that I've not seen in a long time from Sony.
Quote from: Cin on July 04, 2016, 11:04:02 PM
My driver went from 200 to 300+ and I'm seeing better performance on far cry 2, but it still didn't run the new tomb raider, which I got for free, lol.
For the later, you sure that wasn't a firmware update? I mean you download + update drivers, which handle the hardware in your system. If they are out of date the game won't play as well due to the work + technology put into developing the game. On top of other things 'not' game related every driver will have bugs so the next driver download may or may not be a patch fix or optimization of the hardware that is being handled by the 'current' driver. So basically... Same hardware, different handler.
Raye, My desktop is 4-5 years old I think and this is the first time I've updated graphics drivers. Lol. I Don't know what firmware means lol, and I hope I'm not making everyone scratch their heads. :) updating drivers is something that never came to my mind for some reasons
Updating my driver seems to have made games that can run, run even better but it can't help with games that require more ram or better graphics I think. Some games are helpful cause they tell you your computer is not good enough.
I'm thankful for all the replies and help, I definitely know more than I did before starting this thread.
Quote from: Cin on July 04, 2016, 11:55:26 PM
Raye, My desktop is 4-5 years old I think and this is the first time I've updated graphics drivers. Lol. I Don't know what firmware means lol, and I hope I'm not making everyone scratch their heads.
Firmware is basically free software for download. You gotta be careful where you get your FW Updates from. Because some of them may be bug-ridden with viruses if not taken directly from the source of your product. Or worse and not fully completed by the company - missing some important data. That's why I always download Updates from Windows, ASUS, Nvidia, + Corsair for the 'official' FW Downloads to my hardware.
Quote from: Cin on July 04, 2016, 11:55:26 PM
:) updating drivers is something that never came to my mind for some reasons
Updating my driver seems to have made games that can run, run even better but it can't help with games that require more ram or better graphics I think. Some games are helpful cause they tell you your computer is not good enough.
And that's the case with 'most' FW Updates to fix the pre-existing issues. Issues that weren't properly addressed or ran out of time and the update needed to be put out. It's fairly common for FWU's to not be fully bug free upon release because of time constraints and the demand for the update. Which may or not critically affect the device or system being handled. Seriously I'm still new to computers... I never had a computer to myself until 2012 when I got my first laptop! It was either using a machine with Windows ME or Windows XP at the time to surf the web when growing up.
I was taking a look at New Egg for ya earlier, they're not the best PC's by any means, but albeit it'll be much better than what your running right now. Now they're not too fancy or pretty, but they're workable. IF you do decide to go the PC Route. Now because they are pre-built and your limited to customization/optimization when it comes to certain parts of hardware, but they should run your games much better than what your using right now.
AMD System [DDR3] ($429.99):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229285
AMD System [DDR3] ($459.99):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229362
INTEL System [DDR4] ($499.99):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230097
I picked these two mostly because of budget range and most reviews written on them. Now I didn't read the reviews, but usually when I pick parts to build my systems I look at that. It tells me numerous of things that may or may not be important to me. There's a whole lot of explanations on that, but I'm sure Dena could give a better answer on the complexity of that statement. Simply I'm really poor with my communication skills when explaining stuff that I'm still fairly new to. When I build a PC it's using my Electro-Mechanical VS. Computer Engineering Skills, which I lack more of in. So I typically look for functionality and/or flexibility of minimization of unneeded electricity.
Quote from: Cin on July 04, 2016, 11:55:26 PM
I'm thankful for all the replies and help, I definitely know more than I did before starting this thread.
Your very welcome! Don't be afraid to ask these types of questions I feel as if it's a fresh breeze coming through these forums, which is sometimes rare. And I'm quite sure many of us don't mind giving help on those types of issues from time to time.
Thanks Raye, those computers look like they can get the job done for me. They seem to meet my requirements
You're very good at explaining things. I figured out a few things.
I was wondering why I have inconsistent game speeds, for example, game runs faster when I look at the ground and lags when I look at trees and buildings and stuff.
More Reviews and Cheaper all three are decently good for Entry PC Gamers. TO be honest I know the 500 buck system would run up to about 560-580 for purchasing after tax and shipping. But it does have DDR4, which is better than DDR3. Cheaply DDR3 brings up that bill for the buck, but everything is moving over to DDR4 just very slowly. Eventually machines using the next gen RAM will be much more viable and cheaper not only in quantity, but also quality.
Quote from: Cin on July 05, 2016, 01:48:55 PM
Thanks Raye, those computers look like they can get the job done for me. They seem to meet my requirements
You're very good at explaining things. I figured out a few things.
I was wondering why I have inconsistent game speeds, for example, game runs faster when I look at the ground and lags when I look at trees and buildings and stuff.
It takes more power from your computer to render things like Tree´s buildings and other things then it does to render in empty space , which is why when you look up or at the ground you will notice a higher framerate.
Quote from: Raye on July 05, 2016, 02:09:15 PM
More Reviews and Cheaper all three are decently good for Entry PC Gamers. TO be honest I know the 500 buck system would run up to about 560-580 for purchasing after tax and shipping. But it does have DDR4, which is better than DDR3. Cheaply DDR3 brings up that bill for the buck, but everything is moving over to DDR4 just very slowly. Eventually machines using the next gen RAM will be much more viable and cheaper not only in quantity, but also quality.
I think both are fine enough for me lol I have a much more knowledgeable friend who is better at computers but doesn't play games, I'll use these computers as a reference. :)
Quote from: Cassuk on July 05, 2016, 02:23:43 PM
It takes more power from your computer to render things like Tree´s buildings and other things then it does to render in empty space , which is why when you look up or at the ground you will notice a higher framerate.
Thanks, seems video game graphics are more dynamic than I thought. When I'm not looking at things, I guess they are not rendered.
Anybody here know what 60 fps means? Is that 100% speed of a game?
I was just gifted a very good pc, it's way beyond my needs, 960 4 gb, i-5, 1 TB hard drive,
Quote from: Cin on July 12, 2016, 11:27:47 PM
Anybody here know what 60 fps means? Is that 100% speed of a game?
Not a 100% speed of a game, it means 60 Frames Per Second as a few of us slightly mentioned that one earlier.
FPS is frames per second. It's the rate the computer can create and display a new image. 60 is sufficiently fast that most people will not detect a flicker in the image though a few might.
Quote from: Dena on July 12, 2016, 11:46:39 PM
FPS is frames per second. It's the rate the computer can create and display a new image. 60 is sufficiently fast that most people will not detect a flicker in the image though a few might.
Also as Dena elaborated a bit more. If you ever come across wanting to make videos and record live video. Get a separate Hardisk. This happens even on SSD's where you will see lagging parts on the disk because the system is writing + reading itself constantly. The Second disk insures that kind of stuff not to happen because your using it as a storage device vs. the OS Disk. Always easier to write to and from something that's not in charge of your disk, fewer active connections being handled at once.
Thank you all for the help.
I have to sometimes Google stuff cause I haven't really heard things like ssd before. I don't know how many hardisks I have. But recording video games is such a cool thing, it's something I'd like to do for myself,
It's such a cool new pc, I want to learn more about it, I think it's running games on high, but I don't know much else.
Quote from: Cin on July 13, 2016, 03:20:58 AM
Thank you all for the help.
I have to sometimes Google stuff cause I haven't really heard things like ssd before. I don't know how many hardisks I have. But recording video games is such a cool thing, it's something I'd like to do for myself,
It's such a cool new pc, I want to learn more about it, I think it's running games on high, but I don't know much else.
I'm glad someone donated a system to you. That's a real friend + I never had anyone like that before so your sooo lucky! Cherish the system and your friend greatly! ^^
Quote from: Raye on July 13, 2016, 10:22:15 AM
I'm glad someone donated a system to you. That's a real friend + I never had anyone like that before so your sooo lucky! Cherish the system and your friend greatly! ^^
I will!
Did some research and found out my computer is fairly Powerful, I'm very lucky.
I almost don't know what to do, getting used to Windows 10,
playing tomb raider, I ran out of ammo, I might have to start the game over.
IF you ever decide to play Runescape lemme know I wouldn't mind playing with you and talking to you on Skype. ^^
Ok, sure I'll remember that :)