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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: mikeffd on August 06, 2016, 02:46:21 PM

Title: Jealousy/envy?
Post by: mikeffd on August 06, 2016, 02:46:21 PM
What does it mean if you don't have any jealousy or envy of the supposed gender you want to become? I don't feel any. I don't feel a sense of belonging to that group either. I've never seen a group of women and thought I belong with them.

Title: Re: Jealousy/envy?
Post by: Dena on August 06, 2016, 03:33:56 PM
The transgender feeling isn't the same for everybody. The two basic groups I know of is discomfort with your body or discomfort with your social role. It's possible to have either one or both. In my case, my discomfort was primarily social and when I moved into the feminine role, much of my discomfort was reduced. Up to the time I joined the site I had never heard of body dysphoria but it's pretty common to see it on the site.

I am sure you feel some kind of discomfort with your current gender or you wouldn't have looked for this site. Don't worry if what you feel isn't classic because there are many variations and it's the sum of what you feel and not the components that go into it.
Title: Re: Jealousy/envy?
Post by: Ciara on August 06, 2016, 03:56:52 PM
Dena is right. Being transgender is different for everyone. There is no 'one-size-fits-all'.
Thankfully we are all unique.

Ciara
Title: Re: Jealousy/envy?
Post by: Jaselle on August 06, 2016, 04:30:30 PM
Yes, it is different for everyone. As for me, I envy the anatomy of women so much, but I am not jealous of women socially as in wanting to fit in with them. Perhaps because of social conditioning and its something I need to learn. Defining being trans isnt so black and white.
Title: Re: Jealousy/envy?
Post by: V on August 06, 2016, 05:42:16 PM
Quote from: mikeffd on August 06, 2016, 02:46:21 PM
What does it mean if you don't have any jealousy or envy of the supposed gender you want to become? I don't feel any. I don't feel a sense of belonging to that group either. I've never seen a group of women and thought I belong with them.

I've never seen a group of women and felt that I belong with them either.
I generally prefer being with guys. I guess that makes me a 'man's woman'. I cannot lie, sometimes women annoy the bejeezus out of me!  :laugh: Of course, sometimes men do too.
I try not to get too het up about it, we are all different, as others on here have said.
Just find what works for you, there's no checklist for being trans, it's a broad spectrum, be your own definition of yourself!
Title: Re: Jealousy/envy?
Post by: kathb31 on August 06, 2016, 06:24:44 PM
I have always had a certain jealousy towards women. Wishing I could look or
be them and really hating my male body. Most of my life I tried to keep it
crushed down and hidden but it was never gone. I have always tried to cultivate
relationships with women as there girl friend even know they probably didn't know it.
I'm very comfortable being around other women.

Kath
 
Title: Re: Jealousy/envy?
Post by: Tristyn on August 07, 2016, 03:16:59 AM
Quote from: mikeffd on August 06, 2016, 02:46:21 PM
What does it mean if you don't have any jealousy or envy of the supposed gender you want to become? I don't feel any. I don't feel a sense of belonging to that group either. I've never seen a group of women and thought I belong with them.

Sometimes I can relate to how you feel here. It's ok to feel this way. Being transgender can be so many things; there is no linear path with ->-bleeped-<-.

Sometimes I feel like such a man and envy the fact that I cannot grow facial hair, for example. Other times, I feel like I don't even have a gender. I drift between these two feelings and that's ok. Humans are subject to change their feelings or not change their feelings. There is no right or wrong way to feel about this or anything really.
Title: Re: Jealousy/envy?
Post by: Elena1270 on August 07, 2016, 02:16:18 PM
I have always admired women but envied them as well. To be so beautiful! To be able to wear the clothes Being a man sucks.
Title: Re: Jealousy/envy?
Post by: Kylo on August 07, 2016, 02:44:27 PM
Envy isn't much of a helpful emotion in the case of being trans, so it means less to contend with.