I walked out to the mailbox this afternoon.. shirtless. I grab my letters and look down in the process.
hmmm; I don't think those count as "pecs" anymore.
no one around... FLEEEEEEE
I think, when the breasts start budding, you might not want the public to view your chest. Perhaps it may be time to consider "female mode", as girls at a young age are taught to cover that area all the time.
Quote from: Lady Sarah on August 19, 2016, 06:38:28 AM
I think, when the breasts start budding, you might not want the public to view your chest. Perhaps it may be time to consider "female mode", as girls at a young age are taught to cover that area all the time.
Going by that, my days of topless are now officially over, as of right now!!!
Liz
Being about a B now I have some difficulty swimming but I have to get in that exercise so I will continue.
If I go for surgery, even though I won't be passing and will be using the men's lockers (I don't care to present my balding and rather hairy self in the women's) I look forward to wearing a tank suit.
I haven't otherwise want to go shirtless since I realized I'm trans, I felt I had breasts for a very long time and I guess I tend to modest anyhow --- well excepting orgies.
Breast budding and nipple enlargement
Thanks everyone for the perspective. It wasn't really that I intended to go out without a shirt, but that its never been something to be mindful about; if I didn't have a shirt on when I stepped outside, it didn't even occur to me to go put one on. But I admit to scolding my kid when she wanders the house shirtless (I scold gently, I'm not attempting to build neurotic, just a bit of modesty...) I probably should apply the same standard to myself at this point, I shouldn't assert exceptions for my own convenience.
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Quote from: spx_1112 on August 19, 2016, 07:16:46 AM
Breast budding and nipple enlargement
agreed..
I love to sunbathe topless, I have nice private area where I can sunbathe, I hate tan lines.. but once I went to beach where topless sunbathing is allowed and I did sunbathe topless.
Pretty much as soon as I decided to transition.
Re: sunbathing topless...the freeways here in the western US are pretty empty, especially if one goes 70+ mph...driving into the sun topless makes for very nice warming!
No way on earth I could get away with being topless, it's not only the perky boobs but my bikini top tan lines really stand out. Here in California being topless is for the most part perfectly legal but it doesn't mean there is no consequences.
Personally I won't even wander around the house or swim in our very private pool topless, the shy side of me really came out when the boy side left.
I was never really fond of being topless. As a kid It felt wrong to be topless outside.
Jo
8 or 9.
Unless you're actually sunbathing at the time.
Heh... If you have to ask, it's time to cover up!
The initial hit from the first changes in the breast changes the appearance so much from the male norm that covering up early is a really good idea.
I'm not very far along, but I have to get a pre-op EKG done shortly and I expect to cause some befuddlement for the poor tech. ;)
So what is the easiest way to work out what your breast size is?
Cheers
Liz
Quote from: ElizabethK on August 19, 2016, 03:58:35 PM
So what is the easiest way to work out what your breast size is?
Cheers
Liz
Measure you chest under the girls. That's for the number.
I started with an A cup. When it got confining enough to cause discomfort, I moved to B, then C.
Top freedom for all i say. But yeah, i have caught myself a few times in similar situations. I was going to change at a parking lot of a (not clothing optional) beach and my wife is like....uh honey maybe you need to go to the restroom or do that in the car.
Quote from: Lady Sarah on August 19, 2016, 05:11:53 PM
Measure you chest under the girls. That's for the number.
I started with an A cup. When it got confining enough to cause discomfort, I moved to B, then C.
Hmmm not working out so well...best I can tell I am a B cup...that sounds a bit big, but under the girls is 102cm and around the girls was 116cm...20B???
Ha Ha must have made a mistake,
Liz
Try this chart
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/bf/cf/8e/bfcf8ee9966bf6fa36ccdc8dbd4ef781.jpg)
Quote from: Lady Sarah on August 19, 2016, 09:49:58 PM
Try this chart
Lady Sarah, I'm gonna need more charts, as my under number is 46 ;)
So funny the you bring this up today, as this thought just crossed my mind yesterday. I went to take out the trash, just in my jeans, and I thought about whether I would ever want to do that again. I haven't started HRT yet, but hopefully soon, and I don't know if I'll miss it or not. I've only recently started laser on my chest, so baring it in company is liable to beg a conversation during this limboesque period anyway.
L
There is a trans woman who did a series of pictures of herself topless starting right after she started hrt with the question "when dose my chest become illegal" she did it as part of the free the nipple thing.
Related to this i often get charged with my bedroom door opened, i never did that before i transisioned i guess i am just less bothered by my body now.
Serena
Quote from: SadieBlake on August 19, 2016, 07:13:31 AM
Being about a B now I have some difficulty swimming but I have to get in that exercise so I will continue.
If I go for surgery, even though I won't be passing and will be using the men's lockers (I don't care to present my balding and rather hairy self in the women's) I look forward to wearing a tank suit.
I haven't otherwise want to go shirtless since I realized I'm trans, I felt I had breasts for a very long time and I guess I tend to modest anyhow --- well excepting orgies.
Almost same as me, 'B' and Balding. Not so much on the hairy between age, nature, and 7 years of HRT.
Not too long after I decided to take on the trans-beast for real going shirtless really started to bother me. Part of it was dredging up a host of other body image issues on this former fatty and got to be so so again in my last days/months of over-active denial and fighting.
Being a former fatty and always having been a tad gynocomastic I never had 'pecks', just jiggling mounds of blubber. Under HRT in time my nips started swelling. That was 'odd' looking when topless. Except for being off in the distance on the riding mower my topless days were over. My wife and I haven't been able to do SCUBA or swimming in a while so no worry there. If we do again the big issue will be how well wig-tape works underwater. A wig and tucking will be easier to pull off then binding the girls. Swimming wearing a tee-shirt is certainly out. My wife makes too many comments now about the girls showing when dry.
The bottom line is, the time to stop going shirtless was shortly before you started to get the nagging feeling it's time to :o
Quote from: Dayta on August 19, 2016, 10:10:32 PM
Lady Sarah, I'm gonna need more charts, as my under number is 46 ;)
So funny the you bring this up today, as this thought just crossed my mind yesterday. I went to take out the trash, just in my jeans, and I thought about whether I would ever want to do that again. I haven't started HRT yet, but hopefully soon, and I don't know if I'll miss it or not. I've only recently started laser on my chest, so baring it in company is liable to beg a conversation during this limboesque period anyway.
L
Google search does wonders.
Quote from: Lady Sarah on August 20, 2016, 10:21:07 AM
Google search does wonders.
P'shaw! It's a simple IQ test question..."what are the next 3 underbust numbers which follow the pattern, and their corresponding bra sizes?"
"Extra 10 points if the chart is extended to 50-51 underbust, and another 10 points for each country's bra sizes."
"Answers can be found at any Victoria's Secret or Catherine's."
:D
Quote from: Lady Sarah on August 19, 2016, 09:49:58 PM
Try this chart
Thanks for that I am going ot have to keep looking...these charts are for Female body shape...and I am, still working on that part. I am 102 cm under the bust and 116 overbust. I can actually wear a size 16 -18 Bra where the charts have it at 20-22. It is more the cup size that is an issue for me at the moment. I am wearing a crop top type of arrangement which I found whilst searching for "1st Bra" They are great are great and look like these here... https://www.target.com.au/p/2-pack-wirefree-first-bras-style-it-5-9gv/53689177?utm_term=53689177&utm_content=2-pack-wirefree-first-bras-style-it-5-9gv&utm_source=google&utm_medium=merchant-site&utm_campaign=merchant-site&gclid=Cj0KEQjw_9-9BRCqpZeZhLeOg68BEiQAOviWAhd0iXVub631Gis6ft3yqFTqh7j3cE1S-4EIV-O6Y8AaAt-x8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.target.com.au/p/2-pack-wirefree-first-bras-style-it-5-9gv/53689177?utm_term=53689177&utm_content=2-pack-wirefree-first-bras-style-it-5-9gv&utm_source=google&utm_medium=merchant-site&utm_campaign=merchant-site&gclid=Cj0KEQjw_9-9BRCqpZeZhLeOg68BEiQAOviWAhd0iXVub631Gis6ft3yqFTqh7j3cE1S-4EIV-O6Y8AaAt-x8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds)
I am rapidly running out of room in them so this solution will only last a bit longer and then I will need better fitting bras. Hence trying to work out if I am a a,b.c or the like
Liz
For me going topless (except in my back yard swimming pool) became impossible when my breasts became a C Cup and more importantly my areolae became 55mm when fully engorged and my nipples became so extended. When that happened about 4 .5 months ago I realised I had sort of crossed a line where not wearing a swimsuit or bikini top just wasn't an option. Recently I was in Marbella in Spain visiting Facial Team and staying in the resort next door. Basically it was just too hot to stay in doors and I was presenting as Judith 100% so I bought a nice hi cut swimsuit, very low back and and a low front to show off my cleavage with a little skirt bit and not one person "made me" even when I was cooling off in the pool although a few men gave my breasts a good ogle!
Judith
I'm against wearing clothes in general and never do, when indoors.
Where I grew up, in Haiti, the locals didn't bother wearing clothes at all on wash day, when their only set of clothing was drying. Kids didn't wear clothes until they old enough for body changes.
Swimming suits didn't exist.
My parents were American missionaries so made me wear clothes and swimsuits but my brothers swam nude in the river with their friends.
My Australian friends told me they never wore clothes indoor either and on the beach, when I was there, most women went topless.
I'm all for nudity, but I do think some people should wear clothes as a courtesy to the rest of us.
I've never went outside without a shirt on! Except at the beach. Lol
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Judith,
I agree. The days of going topless or without a bra are over. Hugs Shannon
I'm presently stuck in the uncomfortable space between having more breast than I'm comfortable sporting on the pool deck and even more uncomfortable with the prospect of tucking to wear a maillot to swim.
Not a problem once in the water at least
After a certain point you won't be able to go out shirtless without feeling weird about it. I use to not mind going out without a shirt, even after hormones, but after a year I can't imagine going without a shirt,bra,or bikini.
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 29, 2016, 07:50:21 PM
After a certain point you won't be able to go out shirtless without feeling weird about it. I use to not mind going out without a shirt, even after hormones, but after a year I can't imagine going without a shirt,bra,or bikini.
^^^
I am at the more obviously pointy breast stage and there is no way you would get me without a shirt on... ;)
Liz
Possibly when an elderly lady looks at you gaping then gets confused while yelling "Put a top on young uh well uh young er um well... Just put a top on!!!
So, I guess I am immodest and often engage in inappropriate activities. Because I very often go shirtless (OK, I like to call it topless). My days of passing for a girl are long past, but I do carry a 38C rack so that part is obvious. I grew up in a nudist family and never was indoctrinated with the double-standard neurosis.
Any place it is appropriate for a male to be shirtless, I am topless. And I stretch the 'rules' a bit.
I'd think it very much depends on the mores of the society that you are immersed in...
Put me on a topless or nudist beach and all bets are off, the girls are gonna get some sun!!! :icon_chick:
Quote from: V M on December 30, 2016, 10:36:50 PM
Put me on a topless or nudist beach and all bets are off, the girls are gonna get some sun!!! :icon_chick:
That goes for me too... Being twice to a beach where being topless was allowed and my girls got some sun. I did more than just sunbathe, I went for a swim and walked around. I went with 3 female friends and we all went topless.
I've had severe issues about my body image my whole life (always picked on for being too skinny or weak)
It'd have to be hotter than anything for me to even think about removing my shirt working outside, or swimming..
And now that I've had skin cancer removed 2 times, (and once more this January) I cover up even more, my poor pale skin fries like bacon. Y.Y