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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Ive on September 02, 2016, 03:24:52 AM

Title: Are you happy with the prefix trans- ?
Post by: Ive on September 02, 2016, 03:24:52 AM
Hello everyone,

As I am born with a male body and genitalia (sex), but I feel female (gender), I was wondering why this, ever, should define me trans-gender. I mean, my gender was never male (if only apparently, in a part of my life... in which "I was not me"), I did not traversed genders, as my gender is constant (to my feeling, of course). Hence, I cannot be trans-gender, as I did not traversed anything. I could be only a female with a male body/genitalia, or "MbF" (Male-bodied-female) individual.
But maybe it's me that am using the wrong term (transgender)
Maybe I can define myself, in this moment, MbF, or "non-conform-gender" individual (genderqueer?).

Well, I also think this is 1) temporary (maybe), and 2) these are labels.
But I also think labels are useful, some times.

What do you think about it?

Kisses,
Iv.
Title: Re: Are you happy with the prefix trans- ?
Post by: AnxietyDisord3r on September 02, 2016, 04:21:11 AM
Well, if you were never socialized as female and never went through female puberty, maybe this is accurate for you.

I feel like male-to-female-to-male is more accurate than female-to-male in that I was born male, forced to become a female, and I am now using medicine to reclaim my maleness. But my body was fully feminized. So the "trans" thing fits my life story. I've had to cross that river twice now.
Title: Re: Are you happy with the prefix trans- ?
Post by: Deborah on September 02, 2016, 05:28:12 AM
Quote from: AnxietyDisord3r on September 02, 2016, 04:21:11 AMI feel like male-to-female-to-male is more accurate than female-to-male in that I was born male, forced to become a female, and I am now using medicine to reclaim my maleness. But my body was fully feminized. So the "trans" thing fits my life story. I've had to cross that river twice now.
i like that way of thinking about it.  Like it or not, and fair or not, we are uniquely different than the norm.
Title: Re: Are you happy with the prefix trans- ?
Post by: JMJW on September 02, 2016, 06:55:17 AM
Trans is a term taken from chemistry which in turn came from Greek to mean on opposite sides, where cis means on the same side. So it means in this context, the gender identity being on the opposite or same sides as the biological sex.   Which in this context is to some outdated as it's still a binary model and the concept of a concrete biological sex has fallen out of favour.
Title: Re: Are you happy with the prefix trans- ?
Post by: Lady Sarah on September 02, 2016, 10:13:25 AM
In my personal life, I live without anyone using the trans prefix. Being seen as nothing other than a woman, makes me happy. I have become so accustomed to this, that I actually get a little upset if anyone mentions it.
Title: Re: Are you happy with the prefix trans- ?
Post by: naa on September 02, 2016, 10:27:05 AM
You're being way too literal.

Transgender means someone whose gender identity differs from their birth sex.
Title: Re: Are you happy with the prefix trans- ?
Post by: Kylo on September 02, 2016, 11:18:40 AM
These are labels, and I am not a fan of labels.

But sometimes they are necessary - in the doctor's office trans is necessary to define the exact state of my situation for the right people. Super important there.

On a forum like this - necessary, because often we need to define ourselves in relation to those who are not like us and do not have our experiences and trans* labels are the most efficient way for conveying it.

In real life in general? No. Not comfortable with the label and no reason to use it outside of the two above mentioned.
Title: Re: Are you happy with the prefix trans- ?
Post by: stephaniec on September 03, 2016, 12:29:26 PM
really doesn't bother me one way or the other/ I really don't know how I'm perceived by others. I think with the general public when I'm walking around I don't think people notice one way or the other. Yesterday I went to the LGBTQ... clinic to get meds and when I'm there I kind of feel my trans flag fly as far as feeling a part of the community. Same as when I go to the community center and sit and have coffee I don't know if I look trans to other trans . but I feel so comfortable being trans when I'm there. I had a curious experience yesterday after going to the clinic I went to the community center and sat down to people look. This young person came over to me and wanted to sit and talk and I said sure. I'm guessing He knew I was trans , but I'm not sure, but I did tell him and he made no expression positive or negative and just kept talking about his situation as a homeless youth trying to figure things out