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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Jillieann Rose on October 29, 2007, 05:39:47 PM

Poll
Question: When you dream are you the same genders as you have, are, or plan to transition too?
Option 1: Yes and I have completed my transition
Option 2: No and I have completed my transition
Option 3: Yes and I am transitioning
Option 4: No and I am transitioning
Option 5: Yes and I have not started transitioning
Option 6: No and I have not started transitioning
Option 7: No I never am a gender in my dreams
Option 8: Sometimes I am one gender and other times I am the other
Title: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Jillieann Rose on October 29, 2007, 05:39:47 PM
I don't remember my dreams very often but when I do I'm either a male in gender or just me.
I really wonder what that means.
I believe that my mind is female but does this mean my subconscious still believe that I am a male?
I really don't know what do you think about this. ???

:)

Jillieann
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Jeannette on October 29, 2007, 05:44:54 PM
I'm still preop so my transition is not quite over yet but I'm looking forward to scheduling surgery for 2009.  I'm always a woman in my dreams.
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Lori on October 29, 2007, 06:26:17 PM
Your question "When you dream are you the same genders as you did are or plan to transitioning too?" is difficult to understand. I think I know what you are asking...its hard to discern exactly what you meant, (either you have some extra words in that sentence or not enough), but I'm glad you brought the subject up.

I constantly dream of the person I am inside. I have seen myself fully transitioned several times in the mirror in my dreams. Sometimes I'm blonde sometimes I'm brunette but always a pretty woman brushing hair or getting ready to go somewhere. I always wake up excited and ready to get that person out, but I have such a long ways to go.
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Pica Pica on October 29, 2007, 06:28:10 PM
my dreams mainly happen in the first person and i only have my identity not my gender. If I am a specific gender i swap depending on the requirements of the dream story.
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: tinkerbell on October 29, 2007, 07:23:37 PM
My transition is already complete.  I've always been female in my dreams except in a few instances prior to transition when I was not aware of my physical sex.  According to my therapist, dreaming in your target gender happens when you have transitioned mentally.

tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Pica Pica on October 29, 2007, 08:16:02 PM
nice, sort of an anima type. I've had lots of dreams about pursuing women, I thought it was my lusty appetites...
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Suzy on October 29, 2007, 08:19:12 PM
Quote from: Tink on October 29, 2007, 07:23:37 PM
According to my therapist, dreaming in your target gender happens when you have transitioned mentally.
tink :icon_chick:

That's profound, Tink.  I guess I'm farther along than I thought.  Most of my dreams are female, that I remember anyway.

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Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Id Est on October 29, 2007, 08:49:29 PM
Funny a topic like this came up. I've often used my dreams as evidence to tell people how I feel about things. My logic being that I don't choose what to dream, they just happen so that must be how I think, feel...etc.

Almost without exception when I have a good dream I have a male body, usually a teenage male body. Whether I dreamed when I was younger than a teen or now after my teen years I am a teen male. On the flip side whenever I have nightmares or any unpleasant dream I have my current frame every single time. I have never ever had an unpleasant dream while being male, in the dream, and only very few times do I have a good dream while being female, in the dream.

So I am as both in my dreams, but definitely have issues because of how when I am like this everything is hunky dory but when I'm like that it's to hell in a hand basket!
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Ember Lewis on October 29, 2007, 09:38:53 PM
recently I don't remember my gender in my dreams, but I do know that since I was a kid I have had profound and realistic dreams on occasion where I was a woman. This is all prior to me transing, I don't wan't to get into details but there was a man involved in one and when I woke up I felt like it really happened. Those dreams helped me later accept my GID issues and move forward, I feel like in some ways my dreams are coming true. "I feel like crying when I say that"
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Lori on October 29, 2007, 09:47:57 PM
Quote from: Ember L on October 29, 2007, 09:38:53 PM
recently I don't remember my gender in my dreams, but I do know that since I was a kid I have had profound and realistic dreams on occasion where I was a woman. This is all prior to me transing, I don't wan't to get into details but there was a man involved in one and when I woke up I felt like it really happened. Those dreams helped me later accept my GID issues and move forward, I feel like in some ways my dreams are coming true. "I feel like crying when I say that"


I think you could do another topic on that....what gender are you in your dreams after transition?? Interesting.....
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Christo on October 29, 2007, 11:44:34 PM
a dude.  always a dude.  plan to have a hysto next yr & bottom surgery in 2 yrs.  gotta save money first :laugh:
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Emily_P on October 30, 2007, 12:18:51 AM
I am a pre-op and still in transition.  My transition has started to make it into my dreams the last mouth of so.  Before transition I often had dreams where I was trying to became a women but none where I actually was one.
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: cindianna_jones on October 30, 2007, 12:50:58 AM
When it comes to dreams, I've experienced the full spectrum in my lifetime.  I have transitioned and in my dreams now, I am always female.  And for several years now, while in public in my dreams, I've managed to keep all my clothes on.

Cindi
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: katia on October 30, 2007, 01:49:20 AM
my journey is over.  i'm already post-op & i'm a woman in my dreams
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Valentina on October 30, 2007, 06:56:46 AM
The majority of the time I'm female but sometimes I'm not conscious of what sex I am
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Dennis on October 30, 2007, 08:33:05 AM
Quote from: Cindi Jones on October 30, 2007, 12:50:58 AM
When it comes to dreams, I've experienced the full spectrum in my lifetime.  I have transitioned and in my dreams now, I am always female.  And for several years now, while in public in my dreams, I've managed to keep all my clothes on.

Cindi

I'm so proud of you, Cindi! ;)

Was usually male in dreams before transition, except for those sorts of vulnerability dreams Cindi's talking about. I was female in those dreams. I haven't had one of those dreams (which for me take the form of needing a bathroom and the only ones available are up on a stage, or in the middle of the street or something) since transitioning. Now I'm just me in my dreams. Sometimes fully intact bio male, sometimes just me as I am.

Dennis
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Kate on October 30, 2007, 08:55:33 AM
My dreams tended to reflect my physical reality OR simply be genderless.

Before transitioning, I'd often be my ordinary male self - but fully conscious of my GID. I'm usually self-aware in my dreams, so my worldly problems followed me into them. I'd have the occasional dream of being an ordinary woman too, but less often.

During transition, it tended to really fluctutate. Sometimes my old male self, sometimes my future female self, sometimes a hybrid.

Many months into a transition now, I'm just Kate. People even CALL me "Kate" in my dreams (which might be an interesting question for everyone too). But even dreaming as Kate now, I'm aware of the fact that I still need SRS. Just last night I dreamt of getting changed at a coworkers house to go to a party, and I hesitated in sharing the bathroom with her as I still had THAT part.

~Kate~
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Fer on October 30, 2007, 09:17:30 AM
Still pre-op, not for too long though.  Mostly female.  Other times I dont quite know.
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: MaggieB on October 30, 2007, 11:52:37 AM
I'm stuck in what Sandy calls Gender Jail so I am terminally pre-op.
Mostly female but sometimes when I do the naked dream, I have the feeling of being embarrassed that I still have the fiddly bits down there and the rest of being naked is OK with me.  I dream that I walk about naked but the bits are tucked out of sight. That my breasts are showing, is no problem.  I often dream of being in beautiful dresses and other women's styles. Once, I dreamed that I was having sex as a woman with another woman. That was the most beautiful dream of my life.
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Kate on October 30, 2007, 03:47:03 PM
Quote from: MaggieB on October 30, 2007, 11:52:37 AM
Once, I dreamed that I was having sex as a woman with another woman...

Not to tangent too much here, but I occasionally have these odd dreams where a woman will try to seduce me... and I get SO annoyed, lol. I end up laughing at her, like "who do you think you're dealing with here? This is NOT going to work honey. I KNOW these tricks, I AM these tricks - or will be someday," lol.

OR, I'll be affectionate and kiss a girl... you know, in a "thank you, that was sweet" kinda way. But no, they ALWAYS want *more*. And I get annoyed. See above.

'Tis a strange (dreaming) life.

~Kate~
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Jillieann Rose on October 30, 2007, 06:03:06 PM
I seems I have always dreamed, that is the ones I can remember, that I was male in my dreams.
This has really bothered me and that is why set up this poll.
Last night was different I dream that I was TS and wanted to wear my female clothing and did.
So I guess reality is finally entering my dreams. So I guess my subconscious is coming around.
Now if only I could be the woman that I really am in my dreams. That would be wonderful.
Thanks everyone for your answers. It has been real interesting so far.
:)
Jillieann   
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: SocalledLife on November 02, 2007, 01:06:17 PM
Oddly enough, until I began to transition, I was almost exclusively female in my dreams.  But as i began to transition, I started to be TG in my dreams too...  No escape even in my dreams anymore  :P
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: MaggieB on November 02, 2007, 01:58:07 PM
I had a long and detailed dream last night where I was out shopping dressed in a long brown skirt and boots with a form fitting scoop neck knit top and shoulder bag. I was with others and was being treated as a woman. I misplaced my bag in a store and started to run back to where I had left it. In a flash, I stopped as I realized that a women would get a lot of attention if she was running. At other times, men came over to talk to me and treated me in a very friendly way but also signaling a kind of superiority over me. One took me by the arm so as to move me out of the way of someone passing by. We got back into the car and a door was opened for me in the back. I got in and looked down at my beautiful skirt and medium heeled boots.
When I woke up, I felt both wonderful and terrible. The wonderful is that I knew how it would feel to finally live as me. The terrible is that, in real life, I cannot.
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: greg-unknown on November 02, 2007, 02:11:26 PM
im always male in my dreams. i usually have very odd dreams too. like one i had about me and my friend, we were sitting in her bathtub playing cards. (fully clothed btw ;)
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Aleksa on November 04, 2007, 10:28:25 AM
I can't remember that I'd ever seen a dream where I'd be really me, like I see myself as a neutrois. And I see only nightmares. In some of those I'm kind of stepping back in time and getting more and more girly again. In some other dreams I'm a male and at first I'm almost happy with myself, but then things always start getting wrong and in the end I die in some very violent way.
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: OtherWorldJJ on November 07, 2007, 07:43:56 AM
I'm not really sure if my dreams are genderless or not, I rarely remember that part. I know when I dread about love or sexual encounters, tehy are always with a girl/woman, but thats just my sexuality. I neverdream about my gender really, which is odd I suppose, or not, after all, I am androgynous for hte most part, perhapse thats how my dreams reflect that.

One thing I do know is that when I think, or when I dream, my voice is feminine, which is why my actual voice shocks me when I hear it back, being horridly masculine still. my thoughts and dreams always seem to have a more feminine than masculine lilt to them though...

To answer correctly I'll have to see if I can remember a dream tonight and then relay the info :P
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: funnygrl on November 07, 2007, 07:55:59 AM
Unfortunately, I had only one VERY vivid dream of being a girl. It's was my sophmore year of H.S. and I spent a lot of time napping / sleeping trying desperately to have that dream over and over again, or at least continue the story.

I still do that a lot lately since coming to terms with my gender issues and begining to transition. My day-dreams, however, I'm female but that's not fair I guess concerning the topic here.

The "Dream World", sometimes I rather just stay there ya know? In there, I look like I want to, I AM who I want to BE. I'm accepted, loved, HAPPY. It's easier there, I'm already a girl, not having to go through all of this to be one.

Journeys completed, no struggle, no fuss.
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Shana A on November 07, 2007, 08:22:15 AM
I'm generally not aware of being any gender in my dreams. Many years ago I had a very profound dream in which I saw myself as a mix of genders, containing physical attributes of both sexes, that dream was an important moment in awareness of myself as trans/androgyne.

Zythyra
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Traverse on November 09, 2007, 11:47:02 AM
I'm female or nuetral.

I always do a lot of 3rd party dreaming where I'm not even involved. The camera-'man' of the dream. Last night I watched an imaginary large building fall down from a bunch of angles.
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Chaos Magician on November 13, 2007, 08:27:00 PM
Master the art of lucid dreaming, most of your problems will be gone.

What is lucid dreaming? You ask.

http://www.google.com.sg/search?q=Lucid+Dream&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Kate on November 13, 2007, 09:23:29 PM
Quote from: Chaos Magician on November 13, 2007, 08:27:00 PM
Master the art of lucid dreaming, most of your problems will be gone..

OMG... not for me. That's where all my problems BEGAN...

~Kate~
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Chaos Magician on November 13, 2007, 09:29:20 PM
Tell me more? I'm rather curious about what happened.
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Traverse on November 14, 2007, 07:44:10 PM
Lucid dreaming is difficult to do when you're on a whacky schedule. :(

I did it all the time as I was growing up. I taught myself how to do it in desperation of wanting to be female. It's great since you can do WHATEVER you can imagine if you have enough control.
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Patroklos on November 15, 2007, 02:37:52 PM
When I was a little kid I always dreamed of myself as male or as switching bodies with my male friends. That stopped around seven years old, I think.

Recently, I've been having lots of dreams, almost every night, in which I'm male, sometimes as the feminine pretty boy that I more or less live as now and sometimes as the hyper-masculine, hunky Marine. XD
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: Berliegh on November 16, 2007, 02:24:54 AM
I had a dream last night and I think I was male in it which I found quite distressing.
Title: Re: Who are you in your dreams?
Post by: ChildOfTheLight on November 16, 2007, 05:29:09 PM
Usually, as far as I can tell, I have the same body I always do, but I don't notice my genitals at all in most (all, possibly...) of my dreams.  So possibly male (because I'm not constantly aware of my genitals in real life either...thankfully) and possibly neutral.

Occasionally I'm female, or watching a character (as if I'm watching a movie in my dream) who is female and with whom I identify.