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Community Conversation => Transitioning => Facial feminization surgery => Topic started by: Blackwaters427 on October 17, 2016, 10:06:30 PM

Title: Do you think I'll need FFS to pass?
Post by: Blackwaters427 on October 17, 2016, 10:06:30 PM
Hey everyone! I just wanted an opinion of whether I'll need FFS in order to pass, or if makeup,  HRT and lasers will be enough. I just updated my profile pic a few minutes ago. Please be as deadly honest as you can. If you need more pics, please send me a PM and I'll send you my contact info. Thanks!
Title: Re: Do you think I'll need FFS to pass?
Post by: Dena on October 17, 2016, 10:21:48 PM
My honest opinion is that your face with makeup and hair should be able to pass as feminine. If you are still early on HRT, that may help to push you over to to the feminine side. One thing I find amazing about this site is how many people early in their transition are asgrognous to feminine before starting HRT. We don't see it in ourself but others do.
Title: Re: Do you think I'll need FFS to pass?
Post by: barbie on October 17, 2016, 10:53:47 PM
Quote from: Dena on October 17, 2016, 10:21:48 PM
My honest opinion is that your face with makeup and hair should be able to pass as feminine. If you are still early on HRT, that may help to push you over to to the feminine side. One thing I find amazing about this site is how many people early in their transition are asgrognous to feminine before starting HRT. We don't see it in ourself but others do.

I agree.

First you may try makeup gradually. And then you may seek further. You do not need to hurry up.

Cheers!

barbie~~
Title: Re: Do you think I'll need FFS to pass?
Post by: EmilyMK03 on October 18, 2016, 01:30:44 AM
Quote from: Blackwaters427 on October 17, 2016, 10:06:30 PM
Hey everyone! I just wanted an opinion of whether I'll need FFS in order to pass, or if makeup,  HRT and lasers will be enough. I just updated my profile pic a few minutes ago. Please be as deadly honest as you can. If you need more pics, please send me a PM and I'll send you my contact info. Thanks!

If you want "deadly honest" answers, you have to provide "deadly honest" photos, instead of a single tiny profile photo from just one camera angle.  As an example, look at the 4 pre-op photos that Rhonda Lynn posted in her FFS thread (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,214923.0.html).
Title: Re: Do you think I'll need FFS to pass?
Post by: Amy Rachel on October 18, 2016, 09:59:25 AM
FFS really starts to make a difference when we get older. When young, slightly masculinized facial structure can lend a foxy look. When older and we're not so foxy, it tends to make more of an impact.

That said, if the rest of your presentation is there, a good voice can dispel nearly all doubts due to face gender ambiguity.

So I guess I'm saying that it can always help if one gets the right surgeon, but if $ is the barrier, there's plenty of other stuff to focus on and carry most of us through.
Title: Re: Do you think I'll need FFS to pass?
Post by: kanad3 on October 18, 2016, 11:01:25 AM
As Emily said, can't really judge by your tiny profile pic. Need from different angles and in full-size.
Title: Re: Do you think I'll need FFS to pass?
Post by: Sophia Sage on October 18, 2016, 12:34:46 PM
Deadly honest -- even in this flattering picture, you have a prominent brow and a fairly large chin.  If you want to receive female gendering consistently and unambiguously, it will probably take the full works.
Title: Re: Do you think I'll need FFS to pass?
Post by: Blackwaters427 on October 18, 2016, 01:25:40 PM
Quote from: EmilyMK03 on October 18, 2016, 01:30:44 AM
If you want "deadly honest" answers, you have to provide "deadly honest" photos, instead of a single tiny profile photo from just one camera angle.  As an example, look at the 4 pre-op photos that Rhonda Lynn posted in her FFS thread (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,214923.0.html).

How do I upload more than one photo?
Title: Re: Do you think I'll need FFS to pass?
Post by: deeiche on October 18, 2016, 01:40:30 PM
Quote from: Blackwaters427 on October 18, 2016, 01:25:40 PM
How do I upload more than one photo?

use an image upload site and post the links, imgur.com is what Rhonda used in the thread EmilyMK03 referenced.  Did you read the thread EmilyMK03 linked to?
Title: Re: Do you think I'll need FFS to pass?
Post by: Blackwaters427 on October 18, 2016, 09:30:14 PM
Quote from: deeiche on October 18, 2016, 01:40:30 PM
use an image upload site and post the links, imgur.com is what Rhonda used in the thread EmilyMK03 referenced.  Did you read the thread EmilyMK03 linked to?

Ah ok cool. Much appreciated! And not yet, unfortunately. I just got home from work lol. Checking it out now :)
Title: Re: Do you think I'll need FFS to pass?
Post by: Curious on October 22, 2016, 02:12:58 AM
u need ffs
Title: Re: Do you think I'll need FFS to pass?
Post by: transnztal on October 23, 2016, 04:41:04 PM
I think your chin nose lips jaw and hairline are fine! Your eyes and brow bone have more of a heavy look but hrt can really change brow bone by shrinking muscles. I wouldn't say you need ffs on your brow and eyes because you may just be giving a tired looking expression try opening your eyes more and don't squint like your angry. I think your face is more feminine than masc if you are self conscious I would get bangs to cover the forehead and work on your facial expressions.