I'm thinking of doing that because I can't exactly keep a respectful job because people start treating me different after they find out I'm trans. The only thing I feel like I'm good at is gettung male attention so I'm considering stripping. I'm looking for a strip club that is only transgender dancers so if anyone is from the New Orleans area or have visited the area and know of any please let me know.
In general exotic clubs never did anything for me. However, the mention of a transgender club kind of excites me. I'm really curious now.
I've heard of clubs like that in Thailand and the Philippines. Never in the US though, I'd be interested to know of any also.
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The only one I'm aware of is in San Francisco, and it's actually a good bit classier than a conventional strip club. It's called AsiaSF, and is a popular place for, of all things, bachelorette parties and girls nights out. They are quite proud of their all-trans staff.
http://asiasf.com/our-story/
If you're confident and good at talking to others one on one or as a group, you might consider camming. It was something I seriously considered for a while. You can make good money doing this, but making it work largely revolves around keeping a set schedule and getting people to follow you (ofc). Just a thought..
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There used to be one on Bourbon Street named Papa Joe's. That was before hurricane Katrina hit, though. I don't know if it's still open or not, but I do know it was a popular spot and was usually crowded.
All the best,
--AshleyP
700 Club seems to be what you may be looking for. 700 Burgundy St. It is not just transgendered dancers.
Here is something you may think about. http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/12/10/needle-and-condomcrisisfuelhivepidemicinneworleans.html . I would advise to stop trying to make connections at work and just do the work. Go home and enjoy all your friends on your off time. It makes me sad to think someone who put so much thought and effort to transitioning would think this is the only "legitimate" job they can get. Angelique, we are all more than the sum of our parts Find something that excites like opening a electrolysis salon, massage spa or hairdresser. Not a big investment. But as I observed was pretty busy from 9:00 AM to 9:PM until after Christmas when I can finally get an appointment. Your biggest problem is where you live I'm afraid. Although NOLA has an open, no holds barred personna, due to Mardi Gras and Bourbon Street, the Christian mores for the area would make it nearly uninhabitable for anyone with an alternate lifestyle. Please correct me if I'm wrong as I would love to believe this is not so.
Angélique you are absolutely gorgeous and I like what dawn said about open an electrolysis salon. That might actually be something I put on my list for down the road.
On a side note... if you went the cam route I'd totally be a follower! 😘
Loves 💋❤️💋
My company's sales rep and I spent a few hours in a club in Pattaya Thailand playing Pick out the lady-boy. About half were, most of them pegged by the sales rep. He had an unfair advantage having been living there for like 10 years.
Most every major city has a special club where exotic dancing takes place. They may not be exactly what you are looking for but even Phoenix which is relatively conservative has one.
That said, I think you are better than that. I know the company you work for and I visit it often and I am the one who is always asking for that strange little item that few other people want. I have always been impressed with the quality of help that they have because when I can't find what I want, the staff can tell me where it is. If you are able to master the store, I am sure that you are capable of mastering any job that you put your mind to. At this point in your transition you should not be as concerned about a relationship. You goal now is to build a life where you can take care of yourself and once you do that, I think the relationship will happen.
The topic makes me a little nervous, actually. Strip club work is a little too close to the stereotypical transgender sex worker for comfort.
Honestly, I have more respect for the big box hardware store employee who can help me find the right widget when I'm desperately wandering the aisles than someone bumping and grinding the pole for dollar bills. :P
Dena is right, once again. (Thanks, Dena! Sometimes we need a virtual Mom...)
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I just googled it , there are a whole lot
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on November 22, 2016, 02:53:29 PM
I'm thinking of doing that because I can't exactly keep a respectful job because people start treating me different after they find out I'm trans. The only thing I feel like I'm good at is getting male attention so I'm considering stripping. I'm looking for a strip club that is only transgender dancers so if anyone is from the New Orleans area or have visited the area and know of any please let me know.
That really sucks I'm so sorry. I haven't had to go through that yet but I'm sure it is really awful. However, I have been discriminated against by other people and by my insurance company (which supposedly is pretty good for transgender people). I can't tell you how much I hate it because the pain that it causes is indescribable.
But it does make me want to ask you a sincere question: If getting treated differently because you're transgender is bad, why seek employment at a place that embraces the idea of treating transgender women differently from other women?
I assume it's because you want to have a job and survive which completely understandable. But if it's just like because you want to make more money or strip, I'd go to a normal club first. I mean you're as beautiful as any ciswoman out there! That's why I don't like transgender strip clubs, transgender dating, or transgender beauty pageants. Coupled with the negative portrayal we get, it basically says "BRO - we know you have that fetish! Our sexy dudes in dresses just can't make it anywhere else!"
I'm sure I'm almost alone in my views transgender exclusive places, but I do know that if they tried to make transgender bathrooms, everyone here would throw a fit.
I vaguely remember reading an article about someone opening an all trans strip club in Atlanta a few years ago. There are other venues that feature trans entertainers, where you could dance, sing, etc., Mimi Marks and Cassandra Cass have very successful careers. Stripping is a stepping stone for some as it allows them to pursue an education at the same time or save money and start a business, and it's pitfall for others who don't have a long term plan/goal and make bad choices, but it's disprespectful to judge people in the industry when you haven't been in their shoes, for example the CEO who transitioned later in life and has all the money to pay for their transition critizing someone much younger with little to no resources and is facing a lot of discrimination.
I can't think of any... Corner Pocket seem to "have" *can't call it hiring because anyone can work there* cough cough cough** feminine guys, but not transgender women.
Its funny there's a market for transwomen but its like in the public it's too embarrassing to have it...
You would make more money as a cisgender dancer in my opinon.
Quote from: Wild Flower on November 23, 2016, 12:22:52 PM
I can't think of any... Corner Pocket seem to "have" *can't call it hiring because anyone can work there* cough cough cough** feminine guys, but not transgender women.
Its funny there's a market for transwomen but its like in the public it's too embarrassing to have it...
You would make more money as a cisgender dancer in my opinon.
i would become a Cis gendered dancer, but I don't think they hire transgenders at cis gendered strip clubs. I asked my friend who is a dancer and she said that none in New Orleans hire transgenders unless they work as a waitress or go work at a specific spot for LGBT.
There are a lot of people on Craigslist looking for private dancers and models. Look under "Gigs"....don't ask how I know this! >:-)
Hugs, Devlyn
If dancing/stripping is something that you're bent on doing there are webcam sites where you can do it at home for pay if you can't find somewhere local to work.
Bump.
Quote from: Michelle_P on November 22, 2016, 03:34:55 PM
The only one I'm aware of is in San Francisco, and it's actually a good bit classier than a conventional strip club. It's called AsiaSF, and is a popular place for, of all things, bachelorette parties and girls nights out. They are quite proud of their all-trans staff.
http://asiasf.com/our-story/
AsiaSF is dinner and show without nudity, so I wouldn't classify it anywhere near being a stripclub. It's closer to a drag show format, except more talented performers that are trans. And you get a nice meal.
Diva's is basically the closest to that in SF. It's the trans bar here, and has stripper nights Tuesday/Wednesday.
Moderator edit: Edited a word that brought the idea of a more legitimate section of our community as per part two of TOS.
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on November 22, 2016, 02:53:29 PM
I'm thinking of doing that because I can't exactly keep a respectful job because people start treating me different after they find out I'm trans. The only thing I feel like I'm good at is gettung male attention so I'm considering stripping. I'm looking for a strip club that is only transgender dancers so if anyone is from the New Orleans area or have visited the area and know of any please let me know.
in europe some peoples working in clubs but mostly they are completed grs and working as escort too. I was born in Turkey and never see that kind of places like that for muslim country reason but ı worked in netherlands as exotic dancer.
Angelique, if you pass, you pass. However you will still in this have to deal with staying stealth. It's a fair bet that your co-workers will be as transphobic as any other job.
My gf worked as a dancer for nearly two years after her boom of dotcom work petered out in the '00 recession. She liked the work and her co-workers and often relates to me that she still has enjoyed that time more than any of her straight jobs.
Quote from: Michelle_P on November 22, 2016, 06:44:08 PM
The topic makes me a little nervous, actually. Strip club work is a little too close to the stereotypical transgender sex worker for comfort.
Honestly, I have more respect for the big box hardware store employee who can help me find the right widget when I'm desperately wandering the aisles than someone bumping and grinding the pole for dollar bills. :P
Dena is right, once again. (Thanks, Dena! Sometimes we need a virtual Mom...)
Couldn't disagree more. As for stereotypical work it would be more accurate to stereotype it as female than transgender. More women than you may realize put themselves through university on dancing and sex work is the one area of the economy where women outperform men in wages.
You're welcome to be nervous about it, however I find stigmatizing sex workers inappropriate. We're all just doing what we need to to get by and sex workers are due respect also.
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on November 23, 2016, 12:32:50 PM
i would become a Cis gendered dancer, but I don't think they hire transgenders at cis gendered strip clubs. I asked my friend who is a dancer and she said that none in New Orleans hire transgenders unless they work as a waitress or go work at a specific spot for LGBT.
Maybe if you market yourself as "a transgender" (which I think might be phrased better) you could have a problem, but if you pass and don't talk about it you can be just another woman applying for the job. I don't think I've ever seen a club marketing itself as "cis gendered" and I am quite sure there are many, many trans women working in this field who simply do not make an issue of it or bring up their history. I've had friends who were dancers, and none of them ever reported that they were asked if they were "cis gender" when applying.
Quote from: SadieBlake on December 08, 2016, 08:14:22 AM
Angelique, if you pass, you pass. However you will still in this have to deal with staying stealth. It's a fair bet that your co-workers will be as transphobic as any other job.
My gf worked as a dancer for nearly two years after her boom of dotcom work petered out in the '00 recession. She liked the work and her co-workers and often relates to me that she still has enjoyed that time more than any of her straight jobs.
Couldn't disagree more. As for stereotypical work it would be more accurate to stereotype it as female than transgender. More women than you may realize put themselves through university on dancing and sex work is the one area of the economy where women outperform men in wages.
You're welcome to be nervous about it, however I find stigmatizing sex workers inappropriate. We're all just doing what we need to to get by and sex workers are due respect also.
Sex work isn't for everyone, but I've met some phenomenonal women in the industry with incredible business sense. It's the type of thing where the way you approach it, and how seriously you treat it, makes all the difference in the world. I know savvy women that built veritable business empires from it, and others that were too busy buying LV to actually build anything sustainable.
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Okay folks lets be understanding of the fact that industry isn't limited to just trans or even woman for that matter. So lets be respectful of that and not marginalize it to just one group that does that type of work. Lets also keep in mind TOS 5, 9, 10, and 15. Thanks
Mariah
The Jewel Box Lounge in Kansas City, flourished for 34 years featuring male "femme mimics". They all went by their male names. I'm sure it wasn't the only such establishment.
http://www.queermusicheritage.com/fem-jbl.html
Quote from: Mariah on December 08, 2016, 04:08:47 PM
Okay folks lets be understanding of the fact that industry isn't limited to just trans or even woman for that matter.
Mariah
Sorry to quote myself but this morning was a lovely synchronicity
I read this in my morning feed from medium.com written about 9 hours after my post here.
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However, what I can tell you now is that we are all people. I have met dancers who dance to support their art projects, to support their schooling.
Every single one of us in this world is merely doing our best to make a life for ourself on this planet, yourself included.
Quote from: SadieBlake on December 08, 2016, 08:14:22 AM
More women than you may realize put themselves through university on dancing and sex work is the one area of the economy where women outperform men in wages.
... We're all just doing what we need to to get by and sex workers are due respect also.
How about the whole "feminine man" market, although it's a smaller market in the gay scene, there is a market (not sure where, but I can see it happening at any gay club). I mean, you're passable and all, but it only takes an outfit change, a hairchange, a few conversations and you can enter the gay scene all over again (unless your body is undeniably female, then that's different)
I notice there is a strong population on Second Life, but I guess bisexual men are more open to it, then admitting to it in real life.
Yes, there are clubs which feature the type you inquired about. There was one here in Atlanta, but I believe it is defunct now (but I could be wrong). It was called Black Diamonds at the Ultra Lounge in Midtown (Tg Strippers both pre and post, and exclusively Tg wait staff). Have you given any thought to Bartending instead? It's what I did for a bit while I went to college. I would recommend if you do that, to stick with a more well known place. I worked at a very high end resort and got to meet people from all over the world. One word of advice here - be yourself, enjoy it, make some money BUT do not speak of what is twixt your legs to anyone (unless you feel safe doing so and you are in a relationship of sorts with them - you get the picture). I've known many girls who have made a very good living doing just this sort of thing but only while youth was on their side. One of them was a very famous individual who went on to become Miss Nude World and nobody knew of her past because she was wise with whom she divulged.
Yes here in south Florida there's one called club xtra not even joking
Quote from: Annabolton on December 14, 2016, 10:54:06 PM
Yes here in south Florida there's one called club xtra not even joking
xtra-special; xtra-beautiful; xtra-vivacious; xtra-fun...
i think that the people treating you different after finding out should suck it up and deal. you're not any different at work than you usually are, so if they have a problem, it's their own problem, and usually they get over it after a long enough time interacting with you. see if you can't just keep doing your jobs as is.
sex work hasn't got a very strong advancement curve, especially in this hyper-niche market of trans models/dancers or whatever you wanna be. the problem is that it's gonna really annoy you. i say this not as speculation but experience because i dealt with the junky attitudes and personas of hecklers and demanders and overall jerks. and all we can really do is smile and try to brush them off with some sort of witty remark. but in seriousness, for some cis girls, it's enjoyable or pleasant. much of that goes out the window when being trans is involved, because society just doesn't hold us to be as "human" as cis people. so they are like, infinitely more likely to treat you poorly. cis girls, that's empowering for some of them, but for trans girls, it's much more rare to feel empowered by sex work and much more common to just be exhausted and frustrated. trans sex work's pinnacles barely reach the mid level opportunity and standard of living of the pinnacles of cis sex work. that's just something that we can't control since society thinks of cis and trans people that way.