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Title: Makeup colors
Post by: Alora on December 02, 2016, 01:04:15 AM
How do I pick my makeup color scheme? Should I see a makeup specialist?

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Title: Re: Makeup colors
Post by: Anastasija on December 02, 2016, 01:58:53 AM
It depends on what you want to do makeup, whether dry or wet.

if wet you need to have a base, a primer in the color of your skin, brightener 1-2 colors brighter and darker primer 1-3 colors.
Title: Re: Makeup colors
Post by: TonyaW on December 02, 2016, 06:15:18 AM
The ladies at Sephora were very helpful to me.  They do a number of things for free but they are trying to sell stuff and it's not cheap. 
Title: Re: Makeup colors
Post by: SadieBlake on December 02, 2016, 06:40:10 AM
I'm hooked on transparent powder and a thin application of blush. I've also used liquid foundation, that adds a lot of work but is well worth it for a complete effect.

Go get help if your color sense is not so good and most of all, have fun!
Title: Re: Makeup colors
Post by: Miss Lux on December 02, 2016, 07:59:09 AM
Look at yourself in the mirror and check your natural contrast hair to skin , eyes, lips.... If you have a strong contrast like dark and light/ black and white like Liv Tyler or Catherine Zeta Jones you can handle strong bold colors but if you are a low contrast like jen Aniston or farah Faucet stick with colors on the lighter o muted natural neutral shades.... Basically repeat your natural contrast or match the intensity of your contrast/ natural coloration. Hope that helps a little.
Title: Re: Makeup colors
Post by: Rachel on December 02, 2016, 11:58:16 AM
I went to Sephora and Macys on Chestnut street close to or in the Gayborhood in Philadelphia. Both places were trans friendly. I had a consultation at Sephora and it helped, especially in getting the foundation colors and amount to apply. Makeup is expensive at these places and there are places you can get makeup at a fraction of the cost.
Title: Re: Makeup colors
Post by: Wild Flower on December 07, 2016, 11:42:04 PM
If I were to wear make up, and not that I do...

I know dark contrasting eyes, and red lips are the most feminizing things to do...

I would wear it like Christina Aguilera, she does the dark eye/red lip look, without looking gaudy... or "caked on makeup".
http://www4.pictures.gi.stylebistro.com/Entertainment+Weekly+Must+List+Party+U0PPdruaq13l.jpg
Title: Re: Makeup colors
Post by: Wild Flower on December 07, 2016, 11:49:16 PM
And maybe as an everyday look... just focus on the red lips with light mascara

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/8a/a9/ea/8aa9ea02946dd01dc8b7960235730d91.jpg
Title: Re: Makeup colors
Post by: Wild Flower on December 07, 2016, 11:51:39 PM
I would never wear foundation and such either... too makeup looking...

I would probably self-tan lotion *I do this already* and BB cream to cover up light blemishes. I rather invest in good skin with my sun screens and Retin A, then in makeup to cover up my skin.

Although I would consider blush.
Title: Re: Makeup colors
Post by: EmilyMK03 on December 08, 2016, 12:07:15 AM
Quote from: Wild Flower on December 07, 2016, 11:49:16 PM
And maybe as an everyday look... just focus on the red lips with light mascara

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/8a/a9/ea/8aa9ea02946dd01dc8b7960235730d91.jpg

Um... the woman in that photo has a ton of makeup on, didn't you realize that?  Full face of foundation, eyeshadow, brow powder, eyeliner, mascara, blush... need I go on?  I'm Asian myself, so I can easily tell when other Asians have makeup on, and what they're wearing.

More women wear foundation and makeup than you think.  The trick is to make it look like you're not wearing much or any at all.

Back to the original post question though, choosing the right colors for yourself depends on both your skin tone and  hair color.  This will come naturally over time and with practice, but for starters you can begin with a color analysis, such as this one:

http://www.thechicfashionista.com/your-best-perfect-colors.html

You want to pick the colors for both your makeup and your clothing that complement your natural colors.  Sure you can go to Sephora, but you want to eventually learn how to do this yourself too.  It's important to know what colors will work best for you when you're shopping for clothes and new makeup!
Title: Re: Makeup colors
Post by: Michelle_P on December 08, 2016, 01:23:48 AM
Heh.  Here's how I do my "no makeup" look as worn by my current avatar.  Take a look at the before and after photos.

Now upscale this for a pro photo shoot...

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=217010.msg1921004#msg1921004



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Title: Re: Makeup colors
Post by: AutumnLeaves on December 08, 2016, 01:47:09 AM
Few women wear bright red lipstick in their day to day life anymore; it's now considered more of a dramatic, night time look. On the other hand, many women do wear foundation day to day but when it's well applied you don't see it as much. In general I stick with moisturizer/sunscreen, concealer, powder, a rose or neutral gloss or lip balm, mascara, eyebrow powder and blush during the day. Some days I won't even do that and just use moisturizer/sunscreen (I NEVER skip sunscreen) along with mascara, brow powder and lip gloss. I save anything like bright red lipstick, purple/blue/sparkly eyeshadow, dramatic eyeliner, etc, for night time unless I am going for a dramatic look for some special occasion. Too heavily applied makeup, especially in bright colours or the old "red lipstick/blue eyeshadow" combo, worn for trips to the grocery store can draw attention and lead to one being "outed." In general, less is more for daytime.
Title: Re: Makeup colors
Post by: Maybebaby56 on December 11, 2016, 06:16:28 PM
Quote from: AutumnLeaves on December 08, 2016, 01:47:09 AM
Few women wear bright red lipstick in their day to day life anymore; it's now considered more of a dramatic, night time look. On the other hand, many women do wear foundation day to day but when it's well applied you don't see it as much. In general I stick with moisturizer/sunscreen, concealer, powder, a rose or neutral gloss or lip balm, mascara, eyebrow powder and blush during the day. Some days I won't even do that and just use moisturizer/sunscreen (I NEVER skip sunscreen) along with mascara, brow powder and lip gloss. I save anything like bright red lipstick, purple/blue/sparkly eyeshadow, dramatic eyeliner, etc, for night time unless I am going for a dramatic look for some special occasion. Too heavily applied makeup, especially in bright colours or the old "red lipstick/blue eyeshadow" combo, worn for trips to the grocery store can draw attention and lead to one being "outed." In general, less is more for daytime.

Oh, I'm not so sure about that. I see lots of women with bright red or dark red lipstick.  Did you know the number one selling lip stain at Sephora is the bright red Always Red?  I wear it myself (see avatar), often with a gloss.  My present fave is Kat von D's Nosferatu, which is a little darker.

The rule of thumb is that you can accentuate eyes or lips without being gaudy, but not both.

~Terri
Title: Re: Makeup colors
Post by: DawnOday on December 11, 2016, 06:38:51 PM
Maybe you can use this app to get an idea. https://www.marykay.com/en-us/tips-and-trends/makeover-and-beauty-tools/virtual-makeover   It is not the best app. just free. Just upload your picture and go to work.
Title: Re: Makeup colors
Post by: Harley Quinn on December 11, 2016, 06:42:14 PM
I advocate for the assistance of an aesthetician to get a jump start on make up. However, you can never go wrong with a smokey eye pallet and some red lipstick.
Title: Re: Makeup colors
Post by: RachelsMantra on December 12, 2016, 09:45:16 AM
The first step is figuring out if you are warm or cool toned. Do you look best in gold jewelry? Then you're warm toned. Silver jewelry? Cool toned. All jewelry? Neutral. Then go on google and look up warm tone vs cool tone and you'll see which color schemes work best for your skin. Keep in mind this is merely a *suggestion* - it's quite possible to break out of the recommendations if you know what you're doing. But in terms of matching foundation it's quite helpful to know your skin type - the L'oreal true match line of foundation is excellent and divides their line into cool-vs-warm-neutral categories.
Title: Re: Makeup colors
Post by: Wild Flower on December 12, 2016, 11:06:59 AM
Quote from: Maybebaby56 on December 11, 2016, 06:16:28 PM
Oh, I'm not so sure about that. I see lots of women with bright red or dark red lipstick.  Did you know the number one selling lip stain at Sephora is the bright red Always Red?  I wear it myself (see avatar), often with a gloss.  My present fave is Kat von D's Nosferatu, which is a little darker.

The rule of thumb is that you can accentuate eyes or lips without being gaudy, but not both.

~Terri

Why not both???

In one beauty book I read, applying makeup on the eyes and lips would make a man forget an ugly nose because he is looking at the lips and eyes.

An example of an unattractive nose,
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/23/c4/e8/23c4e8bf347f028eb2edb589b9b77f9a.jpg

No red lipstick,
http://aelida.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/sexy-glossy-lips.jpg

See the nose looks more obvious in the second picture.
Title: Re: Makeup colors
Post by: RachelsMantra on December 12, 2016, 11:26:56 AM
I also don't buy into the "bold lips or bold eyes but not both" rule. Yeah, sure, it's a useful rule-of-thumb but just like in other forms of art the best artists know that rules of thumb are meant to be broken.
Title: Makeup colors
Post by: staciM on December 12, 2016, 02:04:32 PM
Quote from: Wild Flower on December 12, 2016, 11:06:59 AM
Why not both???

In one beauty book I read, applying makeup on the eyes and lips would make a man forget an ugly nose because he is looking at the lips and eyes.

An example of an unattractive nose,
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/23/c4/e8/23c4e8bf347f028eb2edb589b9b77f9a.jpg

No red lipstick,
http://aelida.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/sexy-glossy-lips.jpg

See the nose looks more obvious in the second picture.


I don't think her nose is particularly "horrible", but aside from the lip, in the first picture she appears to have much more of a dramatic contouring applied and the photography lighting certainly helps.
Title: Re: Makeup colors
Post by: silliemunkie on December 12, 2016, 02:29:22 PM
I had trouble deciding, and no idea on where to start. Made a appointment with Sephora for one of their personal sessions. If you have the means, it's highly recommended. While the appointment itself is free, you are required to purchase $125 worth of items.

Going into the session I was a bit nervous on how I would be treated, more by other customers, than the staff. The staff was super friendly, and all of them stopped by to suggest different techniques and colors. Other customers did stop by to watch, some were interested, others just kept on moving.

The session was supposed to be 90 minutes, but I was there for 2.5 hours. We did both more natural colors, and then really bold colors. So, i got to see how both fit me, and an idea on how to apply it. My facial hair is rather thick, so I learned some techniques on how to cover the shadow.

Don't get stuck, just keep trying until something strikes you. Personally I like really bold eyes and lips
Title: Re: Makeup colors
Post by: staciM on December 12, 2016, 03:51:42 PM
It may be worth noting that if you're too scared about going into a public makeup salon....it should be relaxing right.  There are trans friendly makeup artists that will bring things to you in the safety and relaxing environment of your home to help choose shades, give advice on technique and show you different looks.  Also, because they are specifically trans friendly they have experience working with traditional trans "difficulties" , whereas typical public salons may not have that type of experience. 

Staci.