What little quirks do you think we have in common?
A tendency to realte obliquely to subjects and veer off is one it seems, any others?
Devilishly handsome and beautiful at the same time ;)
"I'm not much of a man by the light of day, but by night I'm one hell of a lover..."
We have the ability to make people say "what the...." just by walking by.
Perhaps we all find dress code annoying. I certainly do.
Quote from: NickSister on November 05, 2007, 05:13:31 PM
Perhaps we all find dress code annoying. I certainly do.
I despise dress codes... gendered pronouns... gender stereotypes and assumptions about people based on them...
zythyra
How about some sort of inability to take things completely seriously? Or perhaps an unwillingness to grow up?
Nfr
Quote from: Seshatneferw on November 06, 2007, 05:54:00 AM
How about some sort of inability to take things completely seriously? Or perhaps an unwillingness to grow up
Think they're separate or related?
Still trying to make up my mind on this. At the moment I'm vaguely leaning on the 'related' side.
Nfr
Running through the list...
- Staying on topic? What is that?
- Hate Dress Codes (real or imagined)
- Gendered Pronouns - They suck, but there are bigger problems in the world (Where is my nail file?)
- Gender Stereotypes - Can't remember, but I think mine is a Pioneer...could be Sony
- Assumptions about people based on their perceived gender - Really wee-wee's me off
- Not taking things seriously/not growing up - Guilty. I also tend to lean toward them being related, but I can see where a very strong case could be built for them being separate. There are so many things "not right" in the life of an androgyne that taking them all seriously would greatly shorten our life expectancy. I think we HAVE to laugh (at ourselves and our situations)...it is a survival skill. Then again, I'm not a doctor, I only play one with my girlfriend.
Other traits
- Most of us seem to see more than one side of an issue, and often find ourselves in a peace-keeper role.
- All of us are lost as far as a path to follow or a transition goal...we don't know what we want to be when we grow up
- People sometimes look at us funny (OK, I stole the "What the..." comment from Hir Holiness Sister Nick)
Questions
- How many consider themselves to be highly Intuitive? I think it may be part of the seeing things from more than one viewpoint, but it could just be me
- Procrastination...big problem for you, or just my cross to bear (when I finally get to it)?
More later...maybe
....Laurry
I would consider intuition to be my primary tactic in navigating life. Whether or not those intuitions are correct I rate them extremely highly in my decision making process. I go with that instinct and then retroactively apply logic to those decisions.
And I've been procrastinating all day...(and all life).
I've tried procrastinating, but I keep ending up back where I started.
Quote from: Laurry on November 06, 2007, 11:50:38 AM
- People sometimes look at us funny (OK, I stole the "What the..." comment from Hir Holiness Sister Nick)
I'm definitely some kind of hole, at least some of the time... ;)
I'm a procrastinator too, but then I think almost everyone procrastinates to some extent.
I'm not sure if I consider myself highly intuitive. I think perceptive is a better word. I seem to see things others miss, particularly with seeing how people feel or working out what they are thinking from their tells (or just through knowing someone and picking up on their behaviour). Perhaps being outside of the gender interplay gives us some 'professional distance' allowing us to observe with a clear view. But I can be stunningly blind at the same time too.
When I create solutions to problems it seems like intuition on the outside, but on the inside it is just perception and logic. I can leap to the conclusion without bothering to work things out, the unconscious mind works a lot of magic - perhaps trusting that unconscious calculation is intuition?
I never wanted to grow up either, because growing up meant becomming a man....
How many are good with animals?
Quote from: NickSister on November 06, 2007, 01:51:10 PM
I never wanted to grow up either, because growing up meant becoming a man....
Ain't that the truth...Amen!!
Intuitive? Check.
Procrastinating? Check.
Hate dress codes? Well, mostly. I've come to the conclusion that that's really because the dress code imposes a gender on me: I'll have to dress explicitly male ('cause people would likely throw me out if I tried the LBD approach -- and besides, that wouldn't feel any more right anyway). Making fun of the dress code (such as going for a 1920's variant, or overdoing it just a bit) helps some.
Gender stereotypes? Pioneer? Sony? Get real. My cell phone has an MP3 player in it.
Being lost wrt transition? Check -- or at least, tried to grow up but gave up.
Nfr
okay with animals, very good with children....Though my dog adores me.
At the end of this, I want a stereotypical androgyne, like a stereotypical boy or girl.
procrastinator?? Hmmmm, let me think about this for a while, and get back to you sometime in the next year or two... ;)
stereotypes? I have some Denon components, and also an ipod 8) Still have a working turntable too ;D
I don't know if intuition is an androgyne trait, however I am very intuitive.
Z
Traits?
Well i do believe a common trait is openmindness, how can we not be?
We're a minority in society, ofcourse some androgyne could be all "We're the only right kind of people" , but i do believe we react more relaxed about some situations, forexample if a partner told, he/she/ liked to wear the clothes of the opposite sex, we could just say "let's switch" :D The problem isn't bigger than that, maybe this is also a part of what was mentioned earlier, about not taking things too seriously.
I wonder if the 'not wanting to grow up/perceptiveness (is that even a word?)/good with children and animals' type things come from being androgyne or if it is an emotional and psychological reaction to the pressures that society places on us. To me, all of those things are very child like in nature. Children have a sixth sense about people and I have always wondered if my perceptiveness about others stems from that.
I've been wondering this for quite some time. I wonder if we don't mature the way other people do because as children we are trying so hard to meet expectations that certain parts of our minds and certain emotions don't have a chance to grow. I've been trying to figure myself out for a while now and the only thing I know for sure about myself is that I basically shut down emotionally as a child and ignored my own feelings to become whatever it was that my family and society wanted me to become. Any thoughts?
there are certainly an affinity to child like tendencies that crop up when androgynes talk about themselves.
Quote from: Jaimey on November 07, 2007, 06:33:37 PM
I wonder if the 'not wanting to grow up/perceptiveness (is that even a word?)/good with children and animals' type things come from being androgyne or if it is an emotional and psychological reaction to the pressures that society places on us. To me, all of those things are very child like in nature.
That's a good question. I, too, am starting to think there's a connection between this sort of not growing up (although I vehemently refuse to call it 'lack of maturity') and being androgyne. Just
what that connection is is a different matter.
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I've been trying to figure myself out for a while now and the only thing I know for sure about myself is that I basically shut down emotionally as a child and ignored my own feelings to become whatever it was that my family and society wanted me to become. Any thoughts?
It wasn't that bad for me, although bad enough that it's still difficult to talk about feelings, even with myself. Still, this sort of thing seems pretty common among all TG variants, not just androgynes.
My current hypothesis (and it's really current, partly prompted by your ideas) is that both the not-growing-up-all-the-way kind of childishness and some degree of GID are necessary for me to be androgyne. That is, if I were comfortable with having a male body I'd be a man who has certain anti-serious personality traits, much like my father; on the other hand, if I had grown up enough to have a more 'adult' sense of the society and my role in it I'd likely be a post-op woman by now.
Nfr
Quote from: Seshatneferw on November 06, 2007, 05:54:00 AM
How about some sort of inability to take things completely seriously? Or perhaps an unwillingness to grow up?
Nfr
yes.
Posted on: November 08, 2007, 12:51:52 PM
Quote from: Laurry on November 06, 2007, 11:50:38 AM
Questions
- How many consider themselves to be highly Intuitive? I think it may be part of the seeing things from more than one viewpoint, but it could just be me
- Procrastination...big problem for you, or just my cross to bear (when I finally get to it)?
More later...maybe
....Laurry
I Agree with the entire list, but these have been on my mind. Empathy too. Or am I the only empathic one here, you uncaring lot >:(
(notice that I had to address you all as a 'lot'. Is there even a word for multiple people like us?)
Posted on: November 08, 2007, 12:58:30 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on November 06, 2007, 11:55:34 AM
I would consider intuition to be my primary tactic in navigating life. Whether or not those intuitions are correct I rate them extremely highly in my decision making process. I go with that instinct and then retroactively apply logic to those decisions.
And I've been procrastinating all day...(and all life).
I've been procrastinating all your life too. :-\
Posted on: November 08, 2007, 01:03:12 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on November 07, 2007, 06:33:37 PM
I've been wondering this for quite some time. I wonder if we don't mature the way other people do because as children we are trying so hard to meet expectations that certain parts of our minds and certain emotions don't have a chance to grow. I've been trying to figure myself out for a while now and the only thing I know for sure about myself is that I basically shut down emotionally as a child and ignored my own feelings to become whatever it was that my family and society wanted me to become. Any thoughts?
I shut down my emotions as an adult. I sometimes identify with other peoples' feelings to the point where I really feel their pain and joy. I understand that now and I have learned that sometimes it is a good thing to protect myself by keeping that ability dampened at times. I learned this week that sometimes I have to remove myself from somebody's presence if I begin to feel overwhelmed. Other peoples' anger or frustrations can be like a poison to me.
Oh, look at me. I'm so sensitive. :laugh:
As a child, I was consistently overwhelmed by my feelings over other peoples' moods.
Oh, look at me now. I'm Deanna Troi. :laugh:
Quote from: Rebis on November 08, 2007, 12:19:20 PM
I Agree with the entire list, but these have been on my mind. Empathy too. Or am I the only empathic one here, you uncaring lot >:(
(notice that I had to address you all as a 'lot'. Is there even a word for multiple people like us
Word for multiple people like us? Folk? Youse-people? Dingbats? mul-peeps? (MULtiple-PEople...OK, before you throw things, just think of all the B-movies you watched as a child...Yes, it is The Attack of the Mul-Peeps...LOL)
...Oh crap...I just added fuel to the "inability to take things completely seriously" fire, didn't I?
As far as empathy goes...sometimes too much and I have to keep a wall up to prevent being overwhelmed at times. Then again, there are times I could not be less caring (like when the idiots in California come on the television and explain that this is the 42nd time they have had to rebuild their house because of the mudslides...sheesh, move already).
And no, I do not go to Pet Fairs or Humane Society outings as I cannot adopt them all and it causes waay too much pain to see the critters there like that. Maybe part of me wonders if we may one day be put in cages because no one wants us either...oh crap, now I'm gonna cry...I tell you, those dogs (especially) break my heart.
...Laurry
I think there is really some truth in Jaimey's and Seshatneferw's theories on childishness.
I feel I took a long time to 'mature'. While other people seemed to know about growing up and what to do next I was stuck in child mode. My theory is this is more to do with not having a rolemodel. Even though I did not know what I was as a child I still did not have anyone I could grow up to be like. There was no group to emulate. Finding your own path takes longer than following a well forged one.
I think I am definitly sensitive to mood too. I'm sometimes get frustrated when others can't tell how I am feeling when I can read their moods so easily. Perhaps I'm just good at hiding it.
I'm down with the list, except for the hating dress codes.
I hate any standard that insists that people behave or dress differently because of their sex. Such standards are clearly bigotry. Even if everybody in the world was cisgendered, such codes would be offensive. Having different sets of rules for different people is never fair, and we as a culture have gone over that repeatedly with the 'separate but equal' racially segregated lunch-counter bathroom, etc. thing.
But dress codes in themselves are not offensive. In fact, I firmly believe that all schoolchildren should be wearing gender-neutral uniforms, right up to their first year of college. The point of this would be to encourage them to express their individuality.
Yeah, yeah, before hordes of kids arrive to set me on fire while screaming that the reason they object to uniforms is that the uniforms don't let them express their individuality, I'd like to point out that it only takes an hour or two to of study for anybody to be able to look at some kid's school-clothes outfit, laid out and empty of the kid, and determine with at least 80% accuracy the kid's parent's tax-bracket and the kid's skin colour or the skin colour of his or her favourite celebrity athlete or musical performer. That being the case, I cry "what a crock!" for clearly what is being expressed is not individuality but social class divisions.
Heck, I, and most Americans of my age, remember when we were eight and ten years old, being oppressed by the 'Izod' crocodile logo, which was considered cool, but off-label clothing of identical designs without the little crocodile was anti-cool. This kind of rubbish should be nipped in the bud.
Quote from: NickSister on November 08, 2007, 01:35:58 PM
I think there is really some truth in Jaimey's and Seshatneferw's theories on childishness.
I feel I took a long time to 'mature'. While other people seemed to know about growing up and what to do next I was stuck in child mode. My theory is this is more to do with not having a rolemodel. Even though I did not know what I was as a child I still did not have anyone I could grow up to be like. There was no group to emulate. Finding your own path takes longer than following a well forged one.
I think I am definitly sensitive to mood too. I'm sometimes get frustrated when others can't tell how I am feeling when I can read their moods so easily. Perhaps I'm just good at hiding it.
I can relate strongly to not having a role model.
I can remember ever so specifically, English class and having to write a paper on who my hero was...no fictional people allowed of course. For five or six years in a row from Elementary school through Middle School I had to write that paper...except I wrote about how I had no hero. Then got a poor grade for not following the assignment guidelines.
Interchanging hero and role model there but same difference in my opinion. Who did I want to be like, who was someone I could hope to be like. My point of view was that I could see this trait in my father which was good, a trait of my sister, or this other trait in my cousin. Never did I see a person who, as a whole, I would want to emulate and become. I think I took the pieces to forge my own path, my own twisted, painful, but fantastic path!
me too on the role model thing. No role model.
(no more heroes any more, no more heroes any more)
I had to write about my hero, there were lots of people who have done good things, but my heroes were always fictional.
I didn't have a role model either. I was also caught between really young parents and my grandparents, so that definitely caused some confusion.
I'm also sensitive. I don't get overwhelmed by other peoples' emotions, but I am much more sensitive to tone of voice and things like that. I also feel that I am an excellent judge of character. I feel like I can see traits in people that others don't see. I'm almost certain is has to do with the child-like factor that many of us seem to have, but again, the question is "is because I'm androgyne, or is it a psychological/emotional reaction to my environment?"
The psyche is pretty fascinating...
Maybe a role model would have helped me throw off my assumptions and understand things sooner. Since understanding the whole androgyne thing I guess I've found role models in anime.
I don't think that explains the child-like thing. (I definitely identify with that, BTW. I'm sensible and disciplined with money and everything but I love to jump in elevators, slide down banisters, skim pebbles and be generally playful sometimes. I also get a child-like fascination with the world sometimes, which is why I do science.)
Another theory is that it's nostalgia to do with the innate androgyny of children. I'm not sure about that either. Okay, I have looked at photos of myself at 15 before and thought it would be nice to have that cuter, rounder face again but otherwise I'm happy to be "grown up" in my own way.
Some biologists think that dogs are kind of like wolves that never exactly grow up. Dogs aren't puppies, they're grown up, but in many ways they're like young wolves. Maybe some kinds of androgyny are like that - growing up and growing wiser and more sensible, but not losing a kind of child-like quality. I don't know. Thoughts?
(FTR, I'm currently 20. Many people my age revert to childishness but I think that's different. That's definitely nostalgic - watching the kids' shows of 15 years before, etc - but I'm not. Nor do I have affected or exaggerated childishness.)
openness may be a better term maybe?
In the sense of being open-minded or open to new ideas, sure. Not necessarily 'open' in the sense of being ready to share one's feelings -- I'm pretty introverted in that sense, and from what I've read that's a personality trait that often results from growing up with GID.
Nfr
But i meant more open-ness as in the world flooding in a bit strong, a little bit of hypersensitivity, wounding easyish...that sort of thing.
I would like to clarify that there is a difference between childish and childlike, just so we're all clear on the terminology. Childishness, of course, is referring to more 'bratty' types of behavior, severe immaturity, etc. We are all functioning adults. That's not to say we're never childish...I definitely have my moments, but so does everyone else, androgyne or not. :D
I do think that we seem to share a childlike approach to the world. I can understand what Pica means by openness (with the clarification...thanks!). Also, I have considered what Simon said about children being androgynous. One of my professors brought up the point that small children do not realize that they can't be a boy or a girl whenever they want, i.e., a little boy might play dress up one minute and then play in a fort or something the next and vice versa, without ever realizing that according to society, little boys "shouldn't" play dress up and little girls "shouldn't" play in the mud. I have often wondered if that is a factor in our childlike natures.
I would describe childlike as bright-eyed, having childlike wonder, wanting to please (especially trying to fit our bodies), having a child's love, inherently kind, playful, easily hurt, etc. Now that I'm trying to think of words, I can't. Stupid brain. :p
Quote from: Simon on November 11, 2007, 07:08:03 PM
Some biologists think that dogs are kind of like wolves that never exactly grow up. Dogs aren't puppies, they're grown up, but in many ways they're like young wolves. Maybe some kinds of androgyny are like that - growing up and growing wiser and more sensible, but not losing a kind of child-like quality. I don't know. Thoughts?
That's an interesting thought. The term for adults retaining juvenile characteristics is 'neotony' and it's generally accepted that dogs are essentially neotonous wolves. It is visible in their bones and the proportions of their faces. It's also extremely visible in their behavior, if you've ever had a chance to compare them to wolves -- most dogs spend their entire lives friendly, curious, playful and adaptable as young wolves, but real wolves grow up to be far more shy and suspicious and uncomfortable with new things than any but a very troubled nervous dog.
Humans have a number of neotonous traits when compared to great apes, and insofar as comparison is possible, with extinct proto-humans. We've got flat faces and big round skulls with thin bones, delicate skin, very little hair, pathetic teeth spaced closely together without pronounced canines, a prolonged infancy and childhood. We also remain playful, curious and adaptable for life, mostly. Supposedly we are set up for lifelong learning in a way that surpasses the powers of other animals. It is thought that these child-like characteristics, especially the behavioral and learning-related ones, are responsible for humans being such clever beasts, and such a great success. There's also a theory that a single mutation that halted development at a juvenile place is responsible for a wide array of morphological changes that distinguish humans from earlier hominids. If that's true, it might explain why the fossil record appears (at least to some) to lack appropriate intermediate stages between humans and early hominids.
Wouldn't proposing that an androgyne person typically retains childlike traits imply that someone who fits more into the gender binary does not typically retain childlike traits?
Hi NickSister seen you around but I don't think we connected yet.
Yeah, well I guess I'm hopeless. I am 62 and still feel like a kid and don't really have any notions of growing up much more any time soon. But I respect other peoples, feelings, emotions and thoughts. I am quite in-tune with life around me. I am an empath as well as gender dysphoric or an androgyne, although I have been living as a girl for 7 years, inside I don't really identify as either or it just isn't of a vital importance to me. But that's ok I am quite comfortable with my gender identity by choice.
Oh I had role models, really wonderful loving parents but somehow it appears I missed the point somewhere. I had a closer association with my mother, so who knows. You speak of feeling the feelings and sensitivities of others, would you be an empath perhaps? Ye all we need is another label huh. No need to answer that question.
Cindy
Posted on: November 14, 2007, 04:27:08 PM
Hi Pica Pica
I really enjoyed your you tube video, it appears that you are a fun loving person.
I do my best to be fun loving as well, sometimes I wonder how my mate Wing Walker can keep up to me. ;D
Cindy
Posted on: November 14, 2007, 04:32:28 PM
Hi Jaimey
I love your description of childlike. I believe I am going to like this group.
Cindy
Hey Cindy,
I did have role models too, but I don't think I had any appropriate gender role models. Just wondered if not having a good androgyne role model to identify with has really affected my development into an adult androgyne?
Not sure about being an empath - what is this exactly? I used to think everyone could read emotion as well, or was as sensitive to others moods, but it does not seem to be the case. I definitely feel it. It can be stifling, often I can't switch it off. It is terrible when my wife's depression is bad, I feel like I am spiralling down too and often need time out to recover myself after she has gotten better. Slowly developing ways to cope with this though.
Would love to chat more, but have to catch a meeting.
Hi NickSister
I really don't know why I grew up to be who I am except that I was sensitive to other peoples energy and I did a lot of drifting about after I split with the last partner I was with. Now I have Wing Walker who likes to drift as well as I do, so that's ok.
As for Empathy here is an article that you may read if you so desire to.
We all receive and send feelings which influence us and others.
Empaths learn more emotions and utilize feelings better as we
develop. Most of this learning is natural but an empath may need more
to be fulfilled. Learning requires evaluation and implementation of
improvements.
An empath is an active and radiating influence. As empaths, we
influence with fields of energy. The effects are over an area and not
at a specific point. These radiance's affect us as well as others and
linger for some duration.
Here is a link with more information on empathy
http://www.moonchildpn.org/Empaths.html
Cindy
You know, I had always thought that I was, more or less, the only person who exhibited all of these traits (minus empathy) at once.
I've also been off-and-on identifying as androgynous for a while now. =/
This has been very interesting and helpful to me.
"Wow!" I don't believe this, a roomful of empaths! I really don't know what else to add right now but I just wish I could hug all of you guys. Second biggest surprise from this group i the past 4 days I been around here.
Cindy
Quote from: Patroklos on November 15, 2007, 03:14:16 PM
You know, I had always thought that I was, more or less, the only person who exhibited all of these traits (minus empathy) at once.
I've also been off-and-on identifying as androgynous for a while now. =/
This has been very interesting and helpful to me.
Glad it helps.
There does seem to be things we share, gives us some legitimacy also.
Quote from: Id Est on November 12, 2007, 10:20:27 PM
Wouldn't proposing that an androgyne person typically retains childlike traits imply that someone who fits more into the gender binary does not typically retain childlike traits?
It's an interesting theory, one I've explored myself. There really needs to be some research on our gender identity. My biggest question is "are we childlike because we are androgyne or do we retain childlike qualities as a reaction to society's pressures, i.e., do we not mature the same way because we are trying to fit a mold instead of nurturing who we are?"
Maybe we should just storm some poor unsuspecting gender studies professor's office and refuse to leave until some research is done. Could be fun... >:D
(I'm so glad we can edit these posts...my typing/wording mistakes are horrifying...)
Posted on: November 17, 2007, 06:31:12 PM
I have a question. Do you all tend to be self deprecating?
I made a self deprecating joke a few weeks ago and the girl I was with said, "why would you say that about yourself?" I was really taken aback and I wondered if that sort of humor is actually bad for one's self esteem. I know why I'm self deprecating, I just didn't realize that I shouldn't be (if I shouldn't be...I don't think I can change that at this point in my life).
Anyway, I was just curious. I'm not suggesting that self deprecation is trait caused by being androgyne, but that it is possibly a trait common among androgyne people that we develop because of shame/self loathing/societal pressure/etc.
Quote from: Jaimey on November 17, 2007, 05:39:19 PM
Posted on: November 17, 2007, 06:31:12 PM
I have a question. Do you all tend to be self deprecating?
I made a self deprecating joke a few weeks ago and the girl I was with said, "why would you say that about yourself?" I was really taken aback and I wondered if that sort of humor is actually bad for one's self esteem. I know why I'm self deprecating, I just didn't realize that I shouldn't be (if I shouldn't be...I don't think I can change that at this point in my life).
Anyway, I was just curious. I'm not suggesting that self deprecation is trait caused by being androgyne, but that it is possibly a trait common among androgyne people that we develop because of shame/self loathing/societal pressure/etc.
That's a good question. I have been self deprecating for most of my life. Even now when I feel very good and confident about myself I tend to self deprecate. I don't know if it's a habit now, or if I am trying to show others that I do not take myself too seriously. In a way, I would like people to get the impression that someone can be confident and still make jokes at their own expense.
I also don't really feel very confident in using terminolgy suach as - "I can do that, no problem!!"
Rebis
Quote from: Rebis on November 17, 2007, 06:16:29 PM
I also don't really feel very confident in using terminolgy suach as - "I can do that, no problem!!"
Me too! That particular line has gotten me into bad situations...like marketing positions...ugh.
I think I use self deprecation to show people that I can laugh at myself too...and maybe so they won't get mad at me when I laugh at them. Because I will. ;D
Well, I actually have a formal diagnosis as having Peter Pan Syndrome (my brain/psyche/whatever just stopped maturing around 10-11), so I always felt that my child-like qualities were related to that, along with my childishness. :-\
Quote from: Rebis on November 17, 2007, 06:16:29 PM
In a way, I would like people to get the impression that someone can be confident and still make jokes at their own expense.
I feel this way, too, and that's why I have a bit of a self-deprecating tendency, in spite of my rather large and sensitive pride. o.0
I didn't know that there was an actual diagnosis of Peter Pan Syndrome. You learn something new everyday! This might be intrusive, but if you still see the professional that made that diagnosis, you could ask them if it is related to being androgyne. That would be pretty interesting if that professional knew anything about it.
I'm really interested in the psychology/neurology of all of this. Maybe I should go back to school and do research on this...don't hold your breath though. ;)
Quote from: Jaimey on November 17, 2007, 06:20:04 PM
Quote from: Rebis on November 17, 2007, 06:16:29 PM
I also don't really feel very confident in using terminolgy suach as - "I can do that, no problem!!"
Me too! That particular line has gotten me into bad situations...like marketing positions...ugh.
I think I use self deprecation to show people that I can laugh at myself too...and maybe so they won't get mad at me when I laugh at them. Because I will. ;D
Me too! This is getting weird or spooky :o
Posted on: November 17, 2007, 08:11:06 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on November 17, 2007, 06:46:22 PM
...don't hold your breath though. ;)
Hey! Don't tell me what to do!! >:(
(i'm kidding)
Indeed. I often feel like you're reading my mind. *Twilight Zone Theme*
I know! I can be The Uber Androgyne's sidekick, since we seem to think alike. (That's right. I've made you into a superhero-type person on one of these threads...I don't remember which one though...)
Quote from: Jaimey on November 17, 2007, 06:20:04 PM
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Quote from: Jaimey on November 17, 2007, 06:46:22 PM
...don't hold your breath though. ;)
Hey! Don't tell me what to do!! >:(
(i'm kidding)
Heh...
I'll bring it up when we next meet. ^^
Quote from: Milo on November 17, 2007, 07:20:45 PM
I'll bring it up when we next meet. ^^
That would be awesome!
I'd say I have a lot of confidence in myself but I'm very shy when I'm presenting myself to others. That's sociological. I spent so much of my childhood unconsciously learning that my androgyny was bad and it's only been in the past year I've been shaking that off.
Quote from: Simon on November 18, 2007, 06:15:10 PM
I'd say I have a lot of confidence in myself but I'm very shy when I'm presenting myself to others.
ooo...that's me to a T.
Quote from: Jaimey on November 22, 2007, 01:33:41 AM
Quote from: Simon on November 18, 2007, 06:15:10 PM
I'd say I have a lot of confidence in myself but I'm very shy when I'm presenting myself to others.
ooo...that's me to a T.
i'm the other way round
Wow, I never really thought of it this way. Where several of you mentioned the "child-like" tendencies. Well it does make a lot of sense now to me.
I've always considered myself really intuitive and perceptive of other peoples feelings. For those of you familiar with the Myers-Briggs test I'm an INFP. (Which is quite accurate IMO).
Oh and, huge check on the procrastination! Sadly :( I can't seem to get up enough gumption for a lot of things I should have done by now (drivers license and occupation training being the major things).
I'm glad I decided to read this thread, it gave me something to think about that I didn't consider before.
Hi, Phate,
Well ya just found one of those with the child like tendencies. My personality can vary from innocent to very mischievous, but never truly seeking to do any harm to anyone.
I can feel peoples' pain and sadness, even from great distances, I also posses some psychic abilities. There are times when I know someone who needs to be warned of impending disaster but I cannot succeed in doing that. Too many times I have had a bad experience if I did so. Now I just go into profound emotions within and send the emotions back out to the universe as healing energy.
As for procrastination, the only thing that gets procrastinated here is the house cleaning.
Snap with the INFP, I think we did a poll a while ago for Briggs Myers types, if we didn't we should.
INTP here.
I agree about the self-depreciating humor. I laugh at everyone else, so why not myself? I've always felt that if you are going to dish it out, you better be able to take it. Besides, the times I get in the most trouble are when I take myself too seriously.
I do, however, still use the "I can do that" terminology, and have no problem with it (provided it is true). It is the "I can't" mentality that I have problems understanding.
Child-like? How do you know? I don't have any idea what is like to be "mature" or "grown up".
......Laurry
Hi Laurry
"Hee,hee,hee."Welcome to the Id's club.
Old Hippies never die, they only smell that way. ;D
Cindy
I'm more, I'll give it a go terminology.
Quote from: Pica Pica on December 05, 2007, 07:25:37 AM
I'm more, I'll give it a go terminology.
Me too usually. But it's situational.