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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Denise on December 15, 2016, 06:56:49 AM

Title: Lipstick
Post by: Denise on December 15, 2016, 06:56:49 AM
I've never worn lipstick.  I know very little about it.

Looking for suggestions. I do know that brilliant red is not what I'm looking for.  I think subtle is the right description.

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Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: TonyaW on December 15, 2016, 07:15:50 AM
I love lipstick and the brilliant red is a favorite but it never looked right when I tried it.  Not everyone can pull it off. 
Turns out purple shades work for me.  Found this out from a color matching, or whatever they call it, at  Sephora.  It's free and they'll  show you how to apply it also.
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: Michelle_P on December 15, 2016, 07:18:39 AM
Subtle is better for everyday wear. Look at your own lip color, relative to your skin/foundation shade and just push it a little bit. A little pinker, or redder, or darker. There will still be plenty of shades to choose from.

There are glossy finishes which are more of an attention grabber and need more care during the day, and flatter, even matte finishes that don't draw attention to the lips and last for hours without touch ups.



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Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: Mariah on December 15, 2016, 07:35:39 AM
Denise, it really depends on what works for you. I started with subtle before going with something brighter Go with shades that look good on you and that you like. Hugs
Mariah
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: spx_1112 on December 15, 2016, 07:42:42 AM
I agree subtle then go bolder with reds. Hugs Shannon
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: Wanda Jane on December 15, 2016, 08:01:11 AM
I started with lip balm like the EOS. Then tinted lip balms. I am very careful to put actual lipstick on very light and spread it with my fingers if I'm trying to be casual. If you do that remember to wash your fingers afterward and remember that it can spread around and get on things. Especially cheap stuff.
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: DawnOday on December 15, 2016, 12:12:14 PM
Deep red colors will bring out white teeth. Dark stained teeth do not do so well. It may be this reason it may not look good on you.
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: KathyLauren on December 15, 2016, 01:51:30 PM
I don't know how adventurous you feel.  If you are up to it, ask the sales person in the cosmetics department for advice on what colour will work for you.  They know this stuff.

I was in boy mode, but I had a trans friend (dressed) along for moral support when I bought my makeup.  My friend was telling me what items I needed and the sales person was picking the colours for me.  It was great teamwork.  I like the lipstick colour she picked out for me. 

The sales person was totally professional.  From talking to others in my support group, this is a common experience.  Regardless of the store, the sales people really, really want to sell you makeup.  They will do whatever it takes to make you feel welcome.
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: Bobbi Anne on December 15, 2016, 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: Denise on December 15, 2016, 06:56:49 AM
I've never worn lipstick.  I know very little about it.

Looking for suggestions. I do know that brilliant red is not what I'm looking for.  I think subtle is the right description.

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I prefer Revlon's "Gentlemen Prefer Pink" myself. I love feel of it on my lips and the color is subtle yet very feminine.
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: Rachel on December 15, 2016, 06:40:05 PM
I had gone to Sephora and Macy's  and had a great experience in both. The lipstick I use is complimentary to my lip color.
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: Anne Blake on December 15, 2016, 07:21:12 PM
I have always enjoyed lipstick. I found that I prefer to choose the color to compliment my outfit. My current go to is a soft saddle color that goes well with fall colors and lately I have added a pinker variation to lift my spirits in the cold darker days. Spring and summer are filled with pink shades to match the flowers and brightness of my wardrobe. And of course there are some rare occasions that I can justify bright red....like now during Christmas time. This is an easy area to enjoy yourself and play with different forms of expression. - Anne
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: Denise on December 17, 2016, 10:46:52 AM
Thank you all for your comments.  I'm thinking of walking in to some boutique and saying - I got $$ make me over and if it looks good, buy it.

I just need to find a place that's not commission because it would be Dangerous.  If they are commission their main objective is to sell higher priced products.  However if it looks good in the end, isn't it worth it?

Another option is to find a cosmetic school and say - do you need a test subject?  Has anyone ever done that?
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: Angela Drakken on December 17, 2016, 11:05:39 AM
I used to wear black a lot, but that was always paired with porcelain white foundation. Sometimes silver. I've never dared to attempt red. Now I barely wear makeup at all and sport a far more gender neutral look. My girlfriend works as a cosmetician so that's always a plus if I ever get the urge to get all done up for a special occasion. (I think I clean up pretty well, when I don't feel like being a huge tomboy anymore. XP)
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: Lyric on December 19, 2016, 12:27:53 PM
Well, since you brought it up I'm going to say it. Lipstick is my least favorite cosmetic fashion period. It looks OK, but I don't like having stuff on my lips and it gets on your cups, food or whatever. It gets messed up and needs to be redone all the time. I try to avoid it as much as possible. It's one of those wacky customs that began a few centuries ago as a men's fashion and gradually worked over to women of ill repute and finally to the feminine masses. After Max Factor and the movie industry made makeup a widespread practice the wearing of lip color became another one of those inconvenient female rituals that women endure or learn to enjoy. MTF TG people love it because of it's century or so association as a feminine marker, but it has no appeal to me.

I think a lot of people look just fine without lipstick. You can use makeup to emphasize other parts of the face as a focal point and leave the lips natural. Just take care of them so they look well enough naturally.
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: Anne Blake on December 19, 2016, 02:37:41 PM
Hello Lyric, yes I agree with you that lipstick is high maintenance and that it leaves marks and that bare or lip balmed lips look more natural on many folks. For me, I spent so many years living drab that I just appreciate any bit of whimsy that I can include in my life. Color is one those things that reminds me to pursue magic so I will probably be hooked on it for life and hopefully be caught up in the magical whimsy of it until I pass. I can think of several pursuits or habits that do not give me such simple joy. But each to their own. Merry Christmas - Anne
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: bluepaint on December 19, 2016, 03:31:43 PM
well make up was seen as "unnatural" when it first made its appearance in North America, being seen as a European thing , since French women did use some but at the time, since "only those kind of women" wore make up, when most would pinch their cheeks to get that blushing tint which is a sexual response so is blood flow to the lips (making them red)! Personally , I believe the best make up is one that doesn't look like make up, retracing features , accentuating certain features and playing down others and lipstick (with lip liner) is a great way to add some volume and colour or even out top or bottom lips to be more symmetrical!  I also like the feel of lipstick on my lips , with some lipgloss , maybe a flavour if you like! :)


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Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: jenniferlovescoffee on December 19, 2016, 11:49:14 PM
I like to play around with various colors at home for fun.  but when i go out, i try to keep it natural but cute.  i find that burts bees lipcrayon looks really nice on me. they have many shades. it also doubles as lip balm, so two birds with one stone, am i right?
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: Janes Groove on December 20, 2016, 12:26:17 AM
I like Revlon Colorstay. I can't stand lipsticks that don't last.
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: spx_1112 on December 21, 2016, 02:38:15 PM
Lipsticks have to last.  Cherry Red lips, nails and toes for me this week.  Hugs Shannon
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: barbie on December 21, 2016, 03:39:21 PM
Quote from: Lyric on December 19, 2016, 12:27:53 PM
It looks OK, but I don't like having stuff on my lips and it gets on your cups, food or whatever. It gets messed up and needs to be redone all the time. I try to avoid it as much as possible.

As I smoke and drink coffee everyday, I also faced the same problem. Recently I purchased a lipstick product called "Yurica tattoo pen lipstick", which is available here in S. Korea, but probably can be purchased online overseas, too.

https://webuyforukr.wordpress.com/2016/08/06/yurica-lip-eyebrow-tattoo/

http://www.ebay.com/itm/YURICA-DUAL-LIP-TATTOO-PEN-4g-LIPGLOSS-4g-K-beauty-Make-up-/182309021565

Once applied, it lasts about 12 hours. It is relatively expensive, but is worth trying it. The product basically dyes your lips temporarily, avoiding any mess.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/375/30962589253_05c112b38a.jpg)

barbie~~


Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: Donna on December 21, 2016, 07:48:23 PM
Quote from: Jane Emily on December 20, 2016, 12:26:17 AM
I like Revlon Colorstay. I can't stand lipsticks that don't last.
I absolutely Love the way Revlon Colorstay Ultimate is almost a permanent dye unless makeup remover is used for removal. I never worry about smear, leaving color on glasses, or accidentally rubbing it off.
Did I mention I go surfing? I mean in the salt water wild waves complete with sun, paddling, duck dives, falling, and all around spray. This lip dye will never rub off or fade unless I want to remove it.
I surf like a girl, because I am.
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: barbie on December 24, 2016, 10:06:09 PM
Quote from: Donna on December 21, 2016, 07:48:23 PM
I absolutely Love the way Revlon Colorstay Ultimate is almost a permanent dye unless makeup remover is used for removal.

Thanks!

I am going to try it. Just ago, I ordered Revlon ColorStay Ultimate Suede Lipstick (Color: high heels). It is available here in my country (S. Korea), too. About USD 9.00 including H&D.

barbie~~
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: Donna on December 24, 2016, 11:58:28 PM
I really like the Revlon Colorstay Ultimate with the brush applicator that dips in and out of its' little bottle. The brush applicator gives me the most precise control of the line of my lips.
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: barbie on January 28, 2017, 08:15:05 AM
Quote from: Donna on December 24, 2016, 11:58:28 PM
I really like the Revlon Colorstay Ultimate with the brush applicator that dips in and out of its' little bottle. The brush applicator gives me the most precise control of the line of my lips.

Yes. Now I can say that Revlon Colorstay lasts long and is easy to apply. I already ordered another one with a different color.

Cheers!

barbie~~
Title: Re: Lipstick
Post by: JeanetteLW on January 28, 2017, 09:30:32 AM
   I LOVE lipstick! I love the feel, the colors (when I happen to get a good one) I even like the lip prints it leaves. Since I am very much still in the closet. the one thing I like least (about makeup in general) is it's longevity. I have never lived in an environment where I didn't have to worry about leaving residue when returning to male mode. Even pretty pinks can leave your lips stained red upon removal.

   I just discovered FLAVORS!  Yummy flavors that make you want to lick your lips and reapply more. I have run into flavored balms but this is the first lipstick I've found. I ordered two lipsticks from E.L.F. Cosmetics online and got a delirious surprise when I tried them out.

Still licking my lips,
     Jeanette