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Title: Femininity in males
Post by: ghostbees on January 11, 2017, 02:46:46 PM
It's kind of weird that despite being a trans man, I'm pretty feminine. I guess there isn't one way to be male but I feel it definitely turns a few heads.
Anyone else had this problem?[emoji21]
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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Elis on January 11, 2017, 02:58:24 PM
Yeah; very fem; being masculine makes me sorta uncomfortable. I've gradually started accepting it; even gave one of the fitting room attendants an odd moment the other day as she saw I was going to try on 2 blouses and a pair of jeggings  :D. It's important to remember that what we consider fem for men is completely arbitrary. Men 300 years ago were allowed to wear tights and quite fem tops but then it became gradually unacceptable in the Victorian age. But gradually again it's reversing and it's now much more acceptable and less frowned upon for men to wear fem looking stuff. Even in the men's section of shops you see some fem clothes which you wouldn't have just a few years ago.

Cis men can be feminine and it shouldn't seem strange that some trans men don't want to be the all masculine type who weight lift and rid themselves of all things girly.
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: ghostbees on January 11, 2017, 04:03:50 PM
Quote from: Elis on January 11, 2017, 02:58:24 PM
Yeah; very fem; being masculine makes me sorta uncomfortable. I've gradually started accepting it; even gave one of the fitting room attendants an odd moment the other day as she saw I was going to try on 2 blouses and a pair of jeggings  :D. It's important to remember that what we consider fem for men is completely arbitrary. Men 300 years ago were allowed to wear tights and quite fem tops but then it became gradually unacceptable in the Victorian age. But gradually again it's reversing and it's now much more acceptable and less frowned upon for men to wear fem looking stuff. Even in the men's section of shops you see some fem clothes which you wouldn't have just a few years ago.

Cis men can be feminine and it shouldn't seem strange that some trans men don't want to be the all masculine type who weight lift and rid themselves of all things girly.
Ok the blouse and jeggings combo sound amazing [emoji6] what did they look like?
I guess that's true and I think I'm some ways the ideal male image can be toxic especially to guys who fit outside that standard.

My only worry is that I will be heckled when I start going on t.


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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Kylo on January 11, 2017, 06:59:46 PM
Quote from: ghostbees on January 11, 2017, 02:46:46 PM
It's kind of weird that despite being a trans man, I'm pretty feminine. I guess there isn't one way to be male but I feel it definitely turns a few heads.
Anyone else had this problem?


Do you mean in appearance or mannerisms?

In mannerisms and movements I'm not very feminine. I look people right in the eyes to the point it makes some people uncomfortable, as they've told me so, I'm generally assertive and I tend to walk, sit and do things exactly as my male friends do. The only thing that sets me apart from them is that I'm not at all clumsy. I dislike clumsiness in people and my movements tend to be precise and measured. I think a part of me from my past as a female was an appreciation for movement - for doing things in a certain way and liking it, especially doing things with precision. However, my ways are mainly male, I guess. They're self aware but they're not flamboyant or a display of anything.

In appearance however, well there's no getting away from my elfy little face. I've got these damnable long dark eyelashes as well that almost look like I did 'em up with mascara. That's going to be some sort of joke among male friends for sure. I don't care. I'd rather be a "prettyboy" than the Elephant Man, you know?

I'm not comfortable being considered feminine; I've done away with any sort of walk or movement that might suggest it hopefully. I'm not expecting to be considered hugely masculine, though. A big part of what people seem to perceive as fem or masc is things taken at face value - if you're a small and dainty male who doesn't do things feminine you might still be considered fem by some just because you don't look robust. I'm expecting that.
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: lc100 on January 11, 2017, 07:46:20 PM
My first post on here, so I might mess it up somehow. Heads up.

I like this topic. I'm pretty feminine, and expect myself to be even more openly so as my transition progresses. I'm currently as far back into the closet as Narnia, so I'm not comfortable expressing my femininity much. Ideally, I'd like to be a pretty boy rather than a huge, hairy macho beefcake. One day.

You shouldn't feel weird about it, though. We're all cute boys here. 8)
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: SpeakYourMind on January 11, 2017, 08:14:40 PM
Quote from: ghostbees on January 11, 2017, 02:46:46 PM
It's kind of weird that despite being a trans man, I'm pretty feminine. I guess there isn't one way to be male but I feel it definitely turns a few heads.
Anyone else had this problem?[emoji21]
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Loki


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Yep, iv'e certainly have had this problem i enjoy a lot of things that can be considered feminine
sometimes i find myself hiding it form others and sometimes i don't care to show it but i'm trying to get myself to realize it doesn't matter and i shouldn't play into stereotypes i just broke out of a box i refuse going into another one.
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: bluepaint on January 11, 2017, 11:18:30 PM
I look at those on tv or film and in media in general and it seems to me that on one side we speak of diversity, that gender fluidity is accepted in both men and women, in the way we dress and express ourselves, looking beyond the physical to what makes one attractive inside but yet I see a very visually driven concern to looks a certain way that is extremely sexualized on top of it! A kind of land of the genetically perfect humans lol in both men and women!

We all are being looked at to fit in (imop) new very tight definitions (new "norms") of whats considered not only clearly masculine or feminine but being super attractive as well!



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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: ghostbees on January 12, 2017, 05:23:52 AM
Quote from: lc100 on January 11, 2017, 07:46:20 PM
My first post on here, so I might mess it up somehow. Heads up.

I like this topic. I'm pretty feminine, and expect myself to be even more openly so as my transition progresses. I'm currently as far back into the closet as Narnia, so I'm not comfortable expressing my femininity much. Ideally, I'd like to be a pretty boy rather than a huge, hairy macho beefcake. One day.

You shouldn't feel weird about it, though. We're all cute boys here. 8)
I hope you're able to find inner peace as it's incredibly hard starting out, just know that however you choose to present or identify its ok to take it slow!

I believe you can do it!
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Loki


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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Elis on January 12, 2017, 10:40:09 AM
Quote from: ghostbees on January 11, 2017, 04:03:50 PM
Ok the blouse and jeggings combo sound amazing [emoji6] what did they look like?
I guess that's true and I think I'm some ways the ideal male image can be toxic especially to guys who fit outside that standard.

My only worry is that I will be heckled when I start going on t.


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One was with a 'marble effect' design. White with irregular greyish lines splattered on it (could almost pass as a very fem men's shirt) and one was pink with some metal buttons dotted on it; both with midlength rolled up sleeves. The jeggings were dark/dusky pink. I also bought a pair of light blue faded skinny jeans (usually I wear straight legged jeans) and the other day I decided to wear them out with my women's grey jumper that has outlines of sparrows dotted on it and my men's jacket which has black sleeves and a blue embroided flower design on the front. This was the most fem I've looked while out (I was going to an LGBT group) and although I was a bit apprehensive due to worrying about being heckled; I had no issues and nobody gave me a second glance. Which probably shows how unusual it is for men to look fem nowadays. Now I just need another LGBT event to wear maybe one of the blouses with to gain some confidence; but I think it'll be a while until I have the confidence to not wear a jacket to hide what I'm wearing.

Sorry if this was a bit long. To sum up I'm so mentally exhausted from caring what other people think and fearing how they'll react to how I'm dressed; I simply don't care anymore. I also have my ear lobes pierced and a navel piercing bcos WTH not  ::)
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Kylo on January 12, 2017, 03:04:55 PM
Can't wait for the day people out there just learn that everyone not being cookie cutter is fine, and actually makes life less damn boring.
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: MxEnby on January 12, 2017, 04:41:28 PM
I believe I'm too feminine to be considered a man as well as too masculine to be considered a woman. That's why I prefer to be referred to as "nonbinary" and "transmasculine" to "FTM", but have been wondering on and off for years whether I'm a full on FTM, albeit one who is feminine in a few respects. A lot of FTMs are super, super butch and it's almost impossible to find a partially femme FTM not only in the media, but in trans communities. I think that's a major reason I'm put off calling myself an FTM- I'm not 100% butch. I want the top surgery, I want meta, but I don't feel I could ever call myself a bloke.
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 06:05:02 AM
Ok since bc of the subject I've decided to grace everyone w. a picture of me going full femme ::) (does this make me vain lol)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/d9619bcc98d9ba7876a3cc7f97577bca/tumblr_ojpw4dqBdS1w2r0p1o1_540.jpg)
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 06:47:22 AM
Quote from: Kylo on January 12, 2017, 03:04:55 PM
Can't wait for the day people out there just learn that everyone not being cookie cutter is fine, and actually makes life less damn boring.
Thisssss ^
sometimes it's so boring to get weighted under people's rigid definitions of gender and 'how we should present'


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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Elis on January 13, 2017, 07:15:34 AM
Quote from: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 06:05:02 AM
Ok since bc of the subject I've decided to grace everyone w. a picture of me going full femme ::) (does this make me vain lol)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/d9619bcc98d9ba7876a3cc7f97577bca/tumblr_ojpw4dqBdS1w2r0p1o1_540.jpg)

Nope you look gorgeous ;). I just spent 10 mins on my hair this morning so I think I got you beat for vanity :D
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 07:21:38 AM
Quote from: Elis on January 13, 2017, 07:15:34 AM
Nope you look gorgeous ;). I just spent 10 mins on my hair this morning so I think I got you beat for vanity :D

Oh gossh thank you!
What style were you going for? Mine is windswept &I just woke up lmao


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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Elis on January 13, 2017, 08:15:43 AM
Quote from: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 07:21:38 AM

Oh gossh thank you!
What style were you going for? Mine is windswept &I just woke up lmao


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An undercut with a short fringe; but still looks a bit of a mess and not in a good way  :P. Kinda overdue for a haircut and not sure whether to try a new hairstyle.
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 08:19:43 AM
Quote from: Elis on January 13, 2017, 08:15:43 AM
An undercut with a short fringe; but still looks a bit of a mess and not in a good way  :P. Kinda overdue for a haircut and not sure whether to try a new hairstyle.
I feel like sheldon cooper when I go for my haircut- It has to be the same guy and he better have my haircut records!!
Never had an undercut is it hard to grow out?


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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Elis on January 13, 2017, 08:27:10 AM
Quote from: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 08:19:43 AM
I feel like sheldon cooper when I go for my haircut- It has to be the same guy and he better have my haircut records!!
Never had an undercut is it hard to grow out?


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Yeah I'm the same :D. I'm lucky that I have an LGBT barbers in my city where I've been going to for the past 3 years and always have the same person cutting my hair.  If I were to get a new style I might just say to the barber I'm leaving it upto you; but there's always that worry of not liking what I'm used too.

And kinda. After just 3 weeks give or take it starts looking bad; although I usually leave my hair for almost 2 months before getting it cut again. I tried to grow my hair long for 4 months and it was definitely not a good look; although there are a few guys on youtube who managed to have more patience and success than I did.
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 08:33:43 AM
Quote from: Elis on January 13, 2017, 08:27:10 AM
Yeah I'm the same :D. I'm lucky that I have an LGBT barbers in my city where I've been going to for the past 3 years and always have the same person cutting my hair.  If I were to get a new style I might just say to the barber I'm leaving it upto you; but there's always that worry of not liking what I'm used too.

And kinda. After just 3 weeks give or take it starts looking bad; although I usually leave my hair for almost 2 months before getting it cut again. I tried to grow my hair long for 4 months and it was definitely not a good look; although there are a few guys on youtube who managed to have more patience and success than I did.
I usually get mine cut at a unisex one and they're usually on point still a bit pricey. Should I grow my hair out?? I dunno whether to leave it or get it cut MmM


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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: SonadoraXVX on January 13, 2017, 09:00:09 AM
I have long hair, shoulder length, been having it even before I got on hrt, I said banzai, just do it, even though I look like a feminized native American guy, shrugs, eh.
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 09:06:37 AM
Quote from: SonadoraXVX on January 13, 2017, 09:00:09 AM
I have long hair, shoulder length, been having it even before I got on hrt, I said banzai, just do it, even though I look like a feminized native American guy, shrugs, eh.
Oh I see.
Once I got so angry with myself and literally cut chunks out of my hair! I had to get it shaved off - I looked like Phil Mitchell 🤣[emoji23]


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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Elis on January 13, 2017, 09:51:57 AM
Quote from: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 08:33:43 AM
I usually get mine cut at a unisex one and they're usually on point still a bit pricey. Should I grow my hair out?? I dunno whether to leave it or get it cut MmM


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I think your hair looks good. If it makes you feel comfortable and happy then I see no need to change it. I dislike these articles you get anout how trans men can only get certain haircuts to 'pass'. It's more important to be happy with your gender expression and appearance.
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 09:55:06 AM
Quote from: Elis on January 13, 2017, 09:51:57 AM
I think your hair looks good. If it makes you feel comfortable and happy then I see no need to change it. I dislike these articles you get anout how trans men can only get certain haircuts to 'pass'. It's more important to be happy with your gender expression and appearance.
That's true!
I think I might get it cut as it looks untidy will post pics after![emoji39]
Hopefully it shall look good if not it's the right weather for hats[emoji23]


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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 01:51:12 PM
Ok so just thought I'd share when I was done removing the makeup from Starbucks toilets I couldn't stop thinking how incredibly masculine I look and I felt a little sad too, I felt that the makeup had been an experience (even if I did get heckled) and then this random dude said "makeup is just a face mask you wear"
I just froze feeling incredulous like did this dude think people naturally look made up


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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Elis on January 13, 2017, 04:18:21 PM
Quote from: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 01:51:12 PM
Ok so just thought I'd share when I was done removing the makeup from Starbucks toilets I couldn't stop thinking how incredibly masculine I look and I felt a little sad too, I felt that the makeup had been an experience (even if I did get heckled) and then this random dude said "makeup is just a face mask you wear"
I just froze feeling incredulous like did this dude think people naturally look made up


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I feel that sadness too whenever I wear something uber masculine. Wow that dude was an a-hole. More people need to realise makeup is an artistic expression and a way to enhance the natural beauty of someone's features. Most people don't wear it because they feel they need it to cover up what they look like. Btw; don't want to sound patronising but it's seriously amazing you wore makeup out in public. No way could I do that.

Also looking forward to pics of your haircut :). I'm studying to be a barber so it always interests to see different hairstyles on people.
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 04:33:03 PM
Quote from: Elis on January 13, 2017, 04:18:21 PM
I feel that sadness too whenever I wear something uber masculine. Wow that dude was an a-hole. More people need to realise makeup is an artistic expression and a way to enhance the natural beauty of someone's features. Most people don't wear it because they feel they need it to cover up what they look like. Btw; don't want to sound patronising but it's seriously amazing you wore makeup out in public. No way could I do that.

Also looking forward to pics of your haircut :). I'm studying to be a barber so it always interests to see different hairstyles on people.
Gosh it must be hard for you!im not really sure how to explain the sadness I just I dunno...
Don't worry you're not sounding patronising at all! Thank you btw,, I think the hardest part is getting out the door and telling yourself that what people say don't matter and ignoring the a holes

Yeah I think people see it as fake since it does 'cover up' some stuff like spots,discolouration etc but yeah I agree with you that everyone should be allowed to use it no matter what gender (am I missing the point?)


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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Kylo on January 13, 2017, 04:33:44 PM
Quote from: Elis on January 13, 2017, 09:51:57 AMI dislike these articles you get anout how trans men can only get certain haircuts to 'pass'.

Yeah, and I don't think it's true. I've seen long haired ftm and provided the face angles are there or the facial hair they look fine.

I've cut my hair down a few times before transition prep but I literally feel sort of naked with extremely short hair. I don't do very long hair either. It's nearly always somewhere between five inches and just above shoulder. I'm not a fan of the hairdresser so I like some leeway time between going there... if I had to go every 2 or 3 months it'd drive me nuts.
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Elis on January 13, 2017, 04:38:50 PM
Quote from: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 04:33:03 PM
Gosh it must be hard for you!im not really sure how to explain the sadness I just I dunno...
Don't worry you're not sounding patronising at all! Thank you btw,, I think the hardest part is getting out the door and telling yourself that what people say don't matter and ignoring the a holes

Yeah I think people see it as fake since it does 'cover up' some stuff like spots,discolouration etc but yeah I agree with you that everyone should be allowed to use it no matter what gender (am I missing the point?)


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I don't know how the explan the sadness either... It's feels like I'm losing or missing something. I wish I knew how to use makeup so I could choose whether to look like a fem man or a masculine one more easily.

Yeah that's what I try telling myself. Plus I've gotten better over the last few years of trying to look as tough as possible while out so noone will mess with me.

You're not missing the point at all :)
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Elis on January 13, 2017, 04:40:34 PM
Quote from: Kylo on January 13, 2017, 04:33:44 PM
Yeah, and I don't think it's true. I've seen long haired ftm and provided the face angles are there or the facial hair they look fine.

I've cut my hair down a few times before transition prep but I literally feel sort of naked with extremely short hair. I don't do very long hair either. It's nearly always somewhere between five inches and just above shoulder. I'm not a fan of the hairdresser so I like some leeway time between going there... if I had to go every 2 or 3 months it'd drive me nuts.

For me I couldn't have my hair that long. The time washing and drying it would drive me nuts :D
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Kylo on January 13, 2017, 04:54:41 PM
I can see why... I wash mine every day but don't usually blowdry it. If you're on a tight schedule it's a pain in the butt. But I don't usually have to be anywhere early in the morning so I got time to let it dry out while I'm doing whatever it is that I do every morning. Short hair dries in like 5 mins, loved that when I had it short
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 06:17:45 PM
Quote from: Elis on January 13, 2017, 04:38:50 PM
I don't know how the explan the sadness either... It's feels like I'm losing or missing something. I wish I knew how to use makeup so I could choose whether to look like a fem man or a masculine one more easily.

Yeah that's what I try telling myself. Plus I've gotten better over the last few years of trying to look as tough as possible while out so noone will mess with me.

You're not missing the point at all :)
That's exactly how I feel omg I'm sure there are some good makeup videos on YouTube, I think there is a lot.

Keep encouraging yourself if you can [emoji4]my rule is when it stops feeling fun stop but yours maybe different!

Ah good I hope I don't sound preachy oop


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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 06:19:45 PM
Quote from: Kylo on January 13, 2017, 04:54:41 PM
I can see why... I wash mine every day but don't usually blowdry it. If you're on a tight schedule it's a pain in the butt. But I don't usually have to be anywhere early in the morning so I got time to let it dry out while I'm doing whatever it is that I do every morning. Short hair dries in like 5 mins, loved that when I had it short
Doesn't washing it everyday strip essential oils from your hair?

Ah man I love how little my hair takes to dry sometimes I miss long hair but it was a pain in the butt to get rid of shedding omg


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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Elis on January 13, 2017, 06:34:06 PM
I didn't realise other people felt that sadness I do; good to know I'm not crazy  :D.
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 06:37:38 PM
Quote from: Elis on January 13, 2017, 06:34:06 PM
I didn't realise other people felt that sadness I do; good to know I'm not crazy  :D.
We're all mad here[emoji12]it helps


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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Elis on January 13, 2017, 06:42:21 PM
Quote from: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 06:37:38 PM
We're all mad here[emoji12]it helps


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I use that saying all the time :D
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 06:46:12 PM
Quote from: Elis on January 13, 2017, 06:42:21 PM
I use that saying all the time :D
Heh! It's true though [emoji23]


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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Kylo on January 13, 2017, 07:00:37 PM
Quote from: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 06:19:45 PM
Doesn't washing it everyday strip essential oils from your hair?

So they say, but I've done it for the last 16 yrs... hairdressers usually mention how healthy it looks, and I'm thinking, what? I never do anything to 'look after it'. But I don't blowdry it. I heard blowdrying's not great for hair too.

I used to shed tons, now I really don't. Longer it is the more it gets easily pulled out, I guess. I don't mess with mine much, it's got a life of its own anyway. Stupid mop.

Just remembered back to when I was like ...13 or something when I did have long hair.... again because I wasn't much into caring about it or how long it got, those knots and how painful it was to brush that crap out. I'm sure I just got scissors sometimes to get rid of the bad ones. Totally forgot how irritating long, long hair is.
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Angela Drakken on January 13, 2017, 07:08:23 PM
Quote from: ghostbees on January 11, 2017, 02:46:46 PM
It's kind of weird that despite being a trans man, I'm pretty feminine. I guess there isn't one way to be male but I feel it definitely turns a few heads.
Anyone else had this problem?[emoji21]
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Loki


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Iunno, sometimes they're good problems to have. Even when in my boy clothes, I always fell more into a gender neutral category, or feminine. Just rock it any way you can, like you said there's no right or wrong way of doing it.

(boy mode, kinda stepping outside my comfort zone sharing these.. Y.Y)

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv213%2FxXxDrakkenxXx%2FPicture72_zpsb51ed9b9.jpg&hash=d3dfb35e51170e6b027e19dad69c71d740aaae2d)

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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Jacqueline on January 13, 2017, 11:15:08 PM
Quote from: lc100 on January 11, 2017, 07:46:20 PM
My first post on here, so I might mess it up somehow. Heads up.

I like this topic. I'm pretty feminine, and expect myself to be even more openly so as my transition progresses. I'm currently as far back into the closet as Narnia, so I'm not comfortable expressing my femininity much. Ideally, I'd like to be a pretty boy rather than a huge, hairy macho beefcake. One day.

You shouldn't feel weird about it, though. We're all cute boys here. 8)

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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Elis on January 14, 2017, 04:20:13 AM
Quote from: Angela Drakken on January 13, 2017, 07:08:23 PM
Iunno, sometimes they're good problems to have. Even when in my boy clothes, I always fell more into a gender neutral category, or feminine. Just rock it any way you can, like you said there's no right or wrong way of doing it.

(boy mode, kinda stepping outside my comfort zone sharing these.. Y.Y)

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You look great :). Only wish I was able to look that androgynous.
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: AnxietyDisord3r on January 14, 2017, 06:26:30 AM
Quote from: ghostbees on January 11, 2017, 02:46:46 PM
It's kind of weird that despite being a trans man, I'm pretty feminine. I guess there isn't one way to be male but I feel it definitely turns a few heads.
Anyone else had this problem?[emoji21]
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Loki

If you look around there are quite a few feminine guys out there. Of course, some of them have been bullied for it, especially when younger. Some guys for example use higher parts of their register when talking, some guys dress and do their hair in a more feminine way, some move and express themselves in a feminine way. And feminine does not necessarily mean gay. There are some fem ftm bloggers on Youtube, you just need to look around.
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: AnxietyDisord3r on January 14, 2017, 06:31:42 AM
Quote from: Elis on January 13, 2017, 09:51:57 AM
I think your hair looks good. If it makes you feel comfortable and happy then I see no need to change it. I dislike these articles you get anout how trans men can only get certain haircuts to 'pass'. It's more important to be happy with your gender expression and appearance.

Those articles are wrong anyway. I had a buzz cut pre T and didn't pass but at 10 months on T I passed really well with a buzz cut and started getting misgendered when it grew out and I started gelling it up again. Everyone's face is different for one thing and none of that advice is scientific, it's just a collection of anecdotes pronounced with unearned authority.
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: AnxietyDisord3r on January 14, 2017, 06:33:44 AM
Quote from: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 01:51:12 PM
and then this random dude said "makeup is just a face mask you wear"
I just froze feeling incredulous like did this dude think people naturally look made up

Wow, I think you just got "mansplained" to. Random dude has Deep Thoughts. Is made up you not the real you?

Is pretending to be deep to random strangers a social mask that you wear?
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: ghostbees on January 14, 2017, 07:19:02 AM
Quote from: AnxietyDisord3r on January 14, 2017, 06:33:44 AM
Wow, I think you just got "mansplained" to. Random dude has Deep Thoughts. Is made up you not the real you?

Is pretending to be deep to random strangers a social mask that you wear?
I think I did omg I just... why did he feel the need to inform me
First time for everything [emoji23]


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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Angela Drakken on January 14, 2017, 07:52:31 AM
Quote from: ghostbees on January 13, 2017, 01:51:12 PM
Ok so just thought I'd share when I was done removing the makeup from Starbucks toilets I couldn't stop thinking how incredibly masculine I look and I felt a little sad too, I felt that the makeup had been an experience (even if I did get heckled) and then this random dude said "makeup is just a face mask you wear"
I just froze feeling incredulous like did this dude think people naturally look made up


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Sounds like the dude was begging for a headbutt to me. But I have agression issues.
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: Angela Drakken on January 14, 2017, 07:53:38 AM
Quote from: Elis on January 14, 2017, 04:20:13 AM
You look great :). Only wish I was able to look that androgynous.
Not really the goal anymore but ty. [emoji28]
Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: ghostbees on January 15, 2017, 08:42:28 AM
Quote from: Angela Drakken on January 14, 2017, 07:52:31 AM
Sounds like the dude was begging for a headbutt to me. But I have agression issues.
Pfft yeah totally needs his head rearranged [emoji23]
Don't worry I'd do the same!


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Title: Re: Femininity in males
Post by: ghostbees on January 15, 2017, 08:44:59 AM
Quote from: AnxietyDisord3r on January 14, 2017, 06:26:30 AM
If you look around there are quite a few feminine guys out there. Of course, some of them have been bullied for it, especially when younger. Some guys for example use higher parts of their register when talking, some guys dress and do their hair in a more feminine way, some move and express themselves in a feminine way. And feminine does not necessarily mean gay. There are some fem ftm bloggers on Youtube, you just need to look around.
True, true.
I guess it wasn't as 'weird' as I thought and my dad did feminine things too.[emoji3]


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